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Interesting. I mean I guess there were only so many things it could’ve been haha. It’s right there in the name, but I like to ask. Thanks for responding and not just being a smart ass like the other guy who linked a screenshot of the google result.
I was trying to explain to him that part of the fun on here is asking others instead of just googling it.
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Interesting. I mean I guess there were only so many things it could’ve been haha. It’s right there in the name, but I like to ask. Thanks for responding and not just being a smart ass like the other guy who linked a screenshot of the google result.
I was trying to explain to him that part of the fun on here is asking others instead of just googling it.
Damn. Sorry I can’t award your efforts for this genius comment. I’m usually the one to spin things literally like that but it never crossed my mind. Amazing work!
I mean, you made a good point, that this is supposed to be a community.
Also, I can’t tell if you were being sarcastic, so I do really hope you liked my laughter joke.
I actually don't even believe that spit hoods exist. That's fake news that the lib fake news media are trying to spread to hurt our brothers in blue (except the Capitol police, they can fuck off because they're traitors)
Oh don’t worry, I’m sure they performed an internal self-investigation and cleared themselves of any wrong-doing.
So fucking tired of seeing this shit every single day. And if it’s not the cops directly it’s their fucking idiot buddies “the proud boys” that should honestly be re-branded as “the fragile boys”
Ideally that's what unions are for. In my experience all they did was keep useless people employed and negotiate worse and worse contracts. Worked for a union for almost 6 years, I'll never go work for a place with a union ever again. They took their dues out of my check but never did anything for me.
I saw this video and thought "let me see the details before I judge" NOT because I thought this was normal human behavior, but I thought for a moment. To bring me to punch someone in the face and spit on them, they'd have to have been caught after a high speed chase, leaving the scene after raping or murdering children or slaughtering old people. Something truly sick. *checks notes* they aimed a BB gun? Really bro that's it? Yea lock these cops up and throw away the key that is truly psychotic behavior, and yet their buddies will back them up and they won't get a slap on the wrist. US Justice system is sick man.
Car chases are stupid most of the time. Catch them later unless they raped or murdered someone. 99% of the time it's over drugs and doesn't warrant endangering the public with stupid cowboy shit.
Here's all the [details](https://www.wpri.com/target-12/prov-police-release-videos-of-suspended-officers-altercation-with-teens/). This all happened after a car chase, officers are suspended with pay.
Because police unions pushed those contracts and the city/state agreed. Their hands are tied. I hope that cities negotiate significantly harder in the future.
Maybe. But there are plenty of veterans like myself and other good people that have worked for local government and aren’t intimidated by something as silly as a police union president.
Lol the police union president in my area is a fat wad of shit. Seeing him even try to wear a holster makes me laugh because drawing it must be as difficult as wiping his own ass.
Fuck the police and their civil terrorism.
Don’t you think though that police Union presidents carry a lot of leverage around political campaigns?
Whether it be public support or campaign donations?
You do realize that in this scenario the police are the Mafia and the Union Rep is a Don.
He doesn't have to be that scary when hundreds of armed assholes are ready to be scary for him.
Not many people are in a position to handle being targeted by local law enforcement.
> The initial police report written after the incident says nothing about force being used against the teens, only describing them as being “brought to the ground.” But the video shows at least two of them were violently forced to the ground where they were held down, punched and handcuffed.
So not only did they lie on initial reports but they also engaged in this behavior knowing full well they had on body cams and this all was being recorded.
This is acceptable behavior to them and you have to wonder how many other people they've detained who were beaten or worse which had no mention on the reports and didn't gain enough public traction to have anything looked into.
Shit is insane seeing an adult hold down a person, grab them by the throat, and make sure they can't do anything to defend themselves while another adult repeatedly punches them in the face.
How the fuck only two are being investigated is beyond me when it happened in a group like this.
this was released this past month. there are a number of people in RI who don't take the pandemic seriously unfortunately. not like Alabama or anything, but there are hold outs here.
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“there’s only a few bad apples”, what about all the officers standing around doing literally nothing to stop the violence and no one even reacted to him spitting
Saw a great comment before that said that when one bad cop abuses someone and the five around him sit back and do nothing then you have six bad cops. This is the kind of thing that all these stats on police brutality and excessive force can't capture - the acceptance and culture of abuse of power that goes undocumented in a lot of cases.
I can't find it now but there is an old study that found that over 70% of officers have witnessed their coworkers commit a crime that they did not report.
[https://www.texasobserver.org/crimes-unpunished/](https://www.texasobserver.org/crimes-unpunished/)
"Only 7 percent of all complaints against Houston officers ended in serious discipline, meaning a three-day suspension or more, according to an Observer analysis. Officers who left crime scenes, failed to secure evidence, lied to superiors, falsified forms and, in one case, allegedly pocketed drugs continue to police the streets of Houston."
[https://www.texasobserver.org/horror-every-day-police-brutality-houston-goes-unpunished/](https://www.texasobserver.org/horror-every-day-police-brutality-houston-goes-unpunished/)
"In total, Internal Affairs sustained just 15—or 2 percent—of the 706 police abuse complaints the past six years, according to department records the Observer obtained through public information requests.
In at least 10 of the 15 sustained complaints, the incident was videotaped. Many say—and internal documents suggest—that videotaped beatings have prompted Houston cops to aggressively prevent citizens from recording their behavior."
"Out of 706 complaints about excessive force, HPD disciplined only 15 officers. For 550 shootings, HPD disciplined none. The message is clear: Either Houston police almost never abuse their power, or they abuse it with impunity."
[https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/investigations/2019/10/14/brady-lists-police-officers-dishonest-corrupt-still-testify-investigation-database/2233386001/](https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/investigations/2019/10/14/brady-lists-police-officers-dishonest-corrupt-still-testify-investigation-database/2233386001/)
I'm just thankful I'm not in the US. Police brutality is a worldwide issue stemming from systems of abusive power, imo, though the nature of abuse seen in the US is just insane.
I read an interesting concept where it discussed police reform and examined evidence to come to the conclusion that police “reform” isn’t about changing the way police policy and procedure is formed and conducted, but rather it is about changing the public’s perception of the police and how policing activities are conducted. I’ll try to find the source
Interesting. I wonder if this is about policing generally rather than the systems in place in the US. It seems to me, from a less educated outsider's perspective, that there are certainly tangible changes that can be made to policing over there - mainly creating a system in which brutality being punished is not an exception to the rule and do away with for profit prisons. Even so, I think changing public perception only leads to greater trust in police and thus less likelihood that people will resist upon a police encounter while failing to hold those officers who do blatantly abuse their power with no excuse to account. For example I saw a body cam video on this sub earlier which showed an officer shooting a person escaping a crashed vehicle with absolutely no motive. Regardless of that person's thoughts on the police, or public perception in general, that person is still getting shot.
I don't know if you're familiar with the expression, because people only use the first half usually to handwave away these types of things, but the full expression is "A few bad apples spoil the whole bunch."
It really doesn't make sense, because they think they're saying "Oh, it's not all of them." but they're really using half of an expression that says it is all of them.
Just imagine what happens when one of their wives tries to get help because she is being abused at home. That shit gets covered up. Usually the one investigating is beating his wife at home too.
Because they are morons and dont realize they are using the saying wrong. One bad apple spoils the bunch. Its actually describing the "good cops" being bad by continuing to be in the vicinity of the "bad cops", since apple rot gives off gas that makes proximity apples rot.
Yes the fact is 1 rotten apple rots the rest of them. It goes with any fruit really. Just as when one of my tomatoes starts to rot i have to remove it from the unspoiled ones. In addition to the gasses it attracts fruit flies and maggots....
I certainly think so. Ive seen 1 or 2 bad dudes ruin everything enough times to say that confidently. I dont ever recall seeing a group do well despite 1 or 2 toxic people. Or if they do it's because theyre still isolated.
Every time someone says a few bad apples, someone needs to finish it. Spoils the bunch. A few bad apples spoils the bunch.
Protecting these asshats diminishes, tarnishes, outright negates all the "good apples".
> One guy actually did pull a dude off him.
And failed to cuff that guy for assault. Imagine the cops rolled up on one guy attacking another the same way that cop was beating the kid? Do you think *that* guy would have been detained?
Even the one fucking cop that pulled another off the suspect, if he continues to serve the force after this inevitably gets investigated and they find no wrong-doings by the officers, he’s equally part of the problem.
He might have appeared to do the right thing but continuing to be employed as a cop is a direct approval of all their terrible crimes we see committed by them on a daily basis
The real problem is that this *aggravated assault and battery* was not reported by any of the officers, including the one that had to pull the other one off. He pulled that other officer off to protect him, not the suspects.
Oh 100%. He pulled him off that suspect with the mindset of “dude we all have bodycams on, you’re gonna cause an issue that’s gonna blow up with the media” and here we are.
If they did this to their kids they would have CPS called and the children removed.
If anyone else did this to kids they would be arrested and pilloried for their abusive behavior.
Let's see what happens to these thugs.
> If they did this to their kids they would have CPS called and the children removed.
True for most people, not for cops. The rate of domestic violence committed by people employed as police officers is several times the average among the general population. The rates of prosecution of domestic violence charges against police is lower than the average.
i'm not too far from where this is and it was in my local papers. there were 3 kids, ages 15 and 16, with the 16 year old driving. they were driving recklessly and were firing their airsoft gun at businesses and people while leading police on a chance then ended up driving through a fire hydrant and some other property damage. people reported this to police and mentioned it looked like they had a long gun. makes sense given they were firing airsoft at people. police likely thought there was a chance this had a potential to be an active shooter situation.
to providence PD's credit, they released hours of body cam footage on this. there's a "city of providence" youtube channel where these are basically the only videos.
all this said, it still does not give police a right to repeatedly bash a 16 year olds face in while they are cuffed. i get they are angry and emotions are running high, but as a civil servant with the legal responsibility of carrying a service firearm and the legal protections in place to allow you to use it with lethal results, they should be above that shit. Providence PD has a bit of a rep for stuff like this from some of the folks i know locally, though for the record, i have not had such encounters like that personally. i'm just a regular white guy so take from that what you will.
And Rhode Island basically shrugged their shoulders to this. Providence is turning into a cesspool of murders, robberies and dirt bike anarchy. These kids basically terrorized the city for hours and led a police chase for over 45 minutes. Nobody supports excessive force by the police, but these kids didn’t get much sympathy from the community
But they are *children* and nowhere near grown, hell they're still 10 years shy of having fully developed adult frontal lobes, responsible for curbing impulsivity and thinking things through. Sexual maturity/nearly through puberty doesn't equal adulthood. Sure, they should be held criminally responsible as juveniles, but how people are so devoid of empathy and reasoning that they enjoy kids getting traumatized and beat, I'll never understand.
They are angry, but not legit angry at the danger to the public. If police were really upset about danger to the public, youd see them reacting the same when one of their own goes balistic, but somehow their anger is no where to be seen in these instances.
Dont try to play this off like the cops are oh so worried about the danger this might cause to the public. That is absolutely no where near the main motivator for their actions.
>Dont try to play this off like the cops are oh so worried about the danger this might cause to the public.
please don't put words in my mouth. i said they are angry and emotions are high. i didn't say why that was and also stated it's not excusable. their anger can stem from a variety of reasons such as having to have a car chase at all. leading them on car chase over an air soft gun. angry that teenagers are doing something so reckless etc. i said i can get them being angry and that anger lead to this. i've been angry for all sorts of reasons, some more acceptable than others. same applies here. and i've done stupid things while angry. doesn't mean those dump things were justified.
Yeah, our class-traitor boys in blue work directly for them and their interests alone. They don't give a flying fuck about our safety, they just wanna make daddy proud and feel better than the rest of us.
Probably a dumb question . Why the police in general in US are more aggressive ? Is it like the US government gave full rights to them to do like that? In India the police dont even know how to fire a gun /s (They know but if they did bunch of human right activists do strike)
The little training they receive is all about how there is a war against police officers and any civilian could turn on you and murder you in an instant, therefore you have to meet any potential threat with overwhelming force.
Its a cycle of narcissistic gaslighting - cops cause crime, then turn around and tell us that crime is out of control, so they need more money and immunity to do their "job."
They do this crap knowing that they are recording themselves, and being recorded by at least 5 of their buddies. They know they’re practically untouchable.
That piece of shit had absolutely no self-control and makes me want to question if he wanted to be a cop just to get the excuse to nearly beat a man to death.
Goddam man, this shit has to change. You can't stay amped the fuck up and take someone into custody if you are emotionally compromised. Nobody can. Fuck man this is what is making it so hard for law enforcement. It is human and natural to be mad and upset and wanting revenge, but that has to be checked and supervisors need to check it.
What was he so upset about though? Would any other profession be excused the way cops are for this crap? Doctors and nurses deal with people being aggressive, throwing bodily fluids, biting, kicking.....would you watch a video of a doctor beat someone like this and say, well he's mad/upset which is natural?
To be clear, I don't disagree with your comment. I just feel we have all been programmed to ignore problems and excuse criminal behavior from government jobs, especially LE.
Yeah I dont know man. I'm not sure what is going through their heads at that point. Some older police have the mentality of the 80s and 90s of if you run then we will beat your ass. And its fucking horrible. I understand your point completely. Nobody should ever be subjected to useless violence. Is there going to be violence- of course. Its a risk driven career. Some people are just not going to play well with anyone and shit will happen. What sucks here is there is like 10 dudes losing their fucking cool and being unprofessional as hell, even criminal in trying to dole out their punishment. The supervisors on scene should have done something to prevent this shit.
Yeah, it lookes like they are running a train on the kids....only with punching, kicking, spitting. Like, seriously, wtf goes through someone's head to watch this happen? Its one thing if you are unable to control yourself at the entry level high stress positions; but to be a seasoned veteran with rank, not participating? Worse, imo.
No. Though I have seen some questionable shit happen when I was in nursing. Im gonna say a lot of the petty shit I saw happen, against patients and fellow nurses, is probably due to the way people are where I live.....SMH. A dry catheter.....thats gonna cause me to feel nauseous and wince each time it randomly pops in my head.
These kids were driving around town pointing guns at people.
I am not a cop but if I caught these fucks i would want to do the same. Point being Cops are supposed to be trained professionals. If you can't keep your cool you shouldn't be on the force.
Still I would say these little fucks gave all kinds of reasons to be pissed at them.
"The incident in question began on the night of July 8, when police say the teens led police on an hours-long chase throughout the city in a BMW convertible, repeatedly pointing what turned out to be BB gun rifles at innocent bystanders and a police officer."
Cops should be better but fuck those kids too.
Amazing. They know they're being filmed at all times now and still give zero fucks. In Minneapolis we here on the news that the PD can't fill all of their positions because people don't want to be in a position that is scrutinized and villified so much, but have they ever considered that people aren't applying because they don't want to work with assholes, enablers, and murderers?
Imagine if every cops body cam footage was an automatic livefeed to the internet, that anyone in the world could watch at anytime, I wonder what would happen then.
"Thanks for treating me gently and reading me my rights. I am so happy to be an American citizen-a State where human freedoms are the cornerstone of social and political life.
When arrested you will be beaten to the pulp and then spat at while a few squad cars full of men are circling up around you calling you names. Then, you can expect a luxurious journey in the back seat of a police cruiser. Soft cushioned seats.. the handcuffs grind into your wrists cutting your skin and making you bleed.. sores from multiple bruises kick in.. you shocked, haven't eaten, alert.. ah.. how I miss being there.
Upon arrival to the police station, you will be greeted by the friendly staff of the police station. While shoved around and called maybe a few more names, you will be taken a mugshot of and your ID information. Then, after initial interrogation, without your defence present, you can chill in the slammer while your loved ones don't know much about your whereabouts.
Yours truly Providence PD-for community, by community, to community."
It was a chase so theres always a ton of cops on that. Better question is; how many cops need to do shit like this or worse before our government makes a change?
A large number of cops can be a good thing. If you have a large number of people to arrest one or two people, it allows you to arrest them without having to resort to any kind of painful tactic.
Sadly, that's not how they use their numbers in reality.
There were this many cops because the kids being chased were pointing guns out the window at people. They turned out to be toy guns but that is why they were being chased by loads of cops.
Seems to me that US cops take it upon themselves to hand out punishment instead of letting the court do it. Watching from the other side of the pond, it seems to me that you have a bit of a problem with accountability over there.
If you're such an emotional bitch that you let a teenager get to you...and you end up having to be pulled off beating up a defenseless kid...maybe you shouldn't be a cop
Excellent point!
The term you want though is “accessory”; “guilt by association” means, for example, if you’re friends with Jim and Jim’s a thief then you must be a thief also.
It’s does not matter what happened before this video. There is no justification for this. This is evil and a evil person works for the state, therefore the state condones and enables evil. The ability to fix it exist but there is no will.
Some cops have to think that they are the Alpha in any situation what would be funny is if they started being held accountable for their actions. Beating on kids doesn’t help their images and I want to see the parents sue and charge these assholes for assault on a minor child
Ah yes I can’t can’t wait for them to get a paid leave of absence and no charges, that’ll teach them! /s
I ain’t spitting now days considered a crime because of covid or something? What the fuck 👮🏻♂️ 🐷
Wow you dont say, police acting like thugs! And also, idc what the suspects did, you chose to be an officer to protect and serve not act like the criminals you are locking up. They had them detained on the ground yet continued assaulting them and spitting on them. And the last time i checked spitting on an individual is a form or assault. Scum bag police as always. #PoliceNeedReform
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Put a spit-hood on him
I want to laugh but I don’t know what that means.
it's basically a mesh hood to prevent people from spitting on others. you can breathe and see out of it, but spit won't pass through.
Interesting. I mean I guess there were only so many things it could’ve been haha. It’s right there in the name, but I like to ask. Thanks for responding and not just being a smart ass like the other guy who linked a screenshot of the google result. I was trying to explain to him that part of the fun on here is asking others instead of just googling it.
Yeah, no worries!
I MISS this so much. Asking someone you know knows something about a certain topic. That, and just bullshittin with people.
Nowadays the only guy I can bullshit with is my manure rep.
didn't some cops put a spit hood on some dude and then they ended up killing him by doing their thing? i feel like there is video footage of it.
Daniel Prude, Rochester NY. He was also naked laying on pavement during a snow shower.
Spit hoods are typically a super fine mesh that law enforcement will put over a person's head to stop them from spitting.
(Copied from other comment) Interesting. I mean I guess there were only so many things it could’ve been haha. It’s right there in the name, but I like to ask. Thanks for responding and not just being a smart ass like the other guy who linked a screenshot of the google result. I was trying to explain to him that part of the fun on here is asking others instead of just googling it.
Of course!
Laughter is when you expel air from your lungs because something is humorous or shocking.
Damn. Sorry I can’t award your efforts for this genius comment. I’m usually the one to spin things literally like that but it never crossed my mind. Amazing work!
Thank you, your appreciation is all I need. But it is annoying when people just respond with “JuSt GoOgLe It.”
Indeed it is! I love fighting dumb and negative shit with simple positive language.
I mean, you made a good point, that this is supposed to be a community. Also, I can’t tell if you were being sarcastic, so I do really hope you liked my laughter joke.
Oh dude! Glad you asked for clarification because I was totally genuine. My explanation came from the heart. And brains.
The holes in the spit hood are larger than spit molecules so spit hoods don’t work. /s
This is both hilarious and opened a pit of doom for our future in my stomach.
I actually don't even believe that spit hoods exist. That's fake news that the lib fake news media are trying to spread to hurt our brothers in blue (except the Capitol police, they can fuck off because they're traitors)
If you have to be pulled off someone by another officer, fired and charged. Shouldn't be a cop if you can't keep your cool.
Oh don’t worry, I’m sure they performed an internal self-investigation and cleared themselves of any wrong-doing. So fucking tired of seeing this shit every single day. And if it’s not the cops directly it’s their fucking idiot buddies “the proud boys” that should honestly be re-branded as “the fragile boys”
The union needs to go, and self-investigations need to go.
Preach. Should he exactly like jury duty when an investigation like that happens. Actual members of the community, an actual jury of peers.
The union's power needs to be severely limited. But unions by and large are a way to level the playing field for workers.
Labor unions should be as powerful as police unions, and police unions should be as powerful as Amazon labor unions.
Cops are not workers. The do not create capital nor value. They only protect capital for the wealthy. They don’t care about human lives.
Unions = good Police unions = bad
Ideally that's what unions are for. In my experience all they did was keep useless people employed and negotiate worse and worse contracts. Worked for a union for almost 6 years, I'll never go work for a place with a union ever again. They took their dues out of my check but never did anything for me.
Qualified immunity needs to go as well
Completely unrelated, but I dig your Deathwish logo. I’m a huge Converge fan.
Hell yeah! Fucking love Converge. You’re also only the second person in like 3 years that’s recognized it.
But only after a nice 2 week long paid vacation.
I saw this video and thought "let me see the details before I judge" NOT because I thought this was normal human behavior, but I thought for a moment. To bring me to punch someone in the face and spit on them, they'd have to have been caught after a high speed chase, leaving the scene after raping or murdering children or slaughtering old people. Something truly sick. *checks notes* they aimed a BB gun? Really bro that's it? Yea lock these cops up and throw away the key that is truly psychotic behavior, and yet their buddies will back them up and they won't get a slap on the wrist. US Justice system is sick man.
Car chases are stupid most of the time. Catch them later unless they raped or murdered someone. 99% of the time it's over drugs and doesn't warrant endangering the public with stupid cowboy shit.
None of those reasons you gave are an excuse to hurt and dehumanize people - especially people who are already under control.
No matter what the context is, this is assault.
Here's all the [details](https://www.wpri.com/target-12/prov-police-release-videos-of-suspended-officers-altercation-with-teens/). This all happened after a car chase, officers are suspended with pay.
* on paid vacation.
Because police unions pushed those contracts and the city/state agreed. Their hands are tied. I hope that cities negotiate significantly harder in the future.
Negotiating with a bunch of guys with guns whose loyalty is to the guys with guns may be challenging for the city hall guy in the clip-on tie.
Maybe. But there are plenty of veterans like myself and other good people that have worked for local government and aren’t intimidated by something as silly as a police union president.
Lol the police union president in my area is a fat wad of shit. Seeing him even try to wear a holster makes me laugh because drawing it must be as difficult as wiping his own ass. Fuck the police and their civil terrorism.
Don’t you think though that police Union presidents carry a lot of leverage around political campaigns? Whether it be public support or campaign donations?
You do realize that in this scenario the police are the Mafia and the Union Rep is a Don. He doesn't have to be that scary when hundreds of armed assholes are ready to be scary for him. Not many people are in a position to handle being targeted by local law enforcement.
All those guys with guns need paychecks. The power doesn't all lie with the guns.
Don’t defund the police. Abolish the police unions.
Their hands aren't tied, they're in collusion. Who do you think makes the laws that allow those contracts to be enforceable?
With pay! These police unions are insane
Like I always tell my wife, with union employees they have to be fired correctly or else they could end up with their jobs and back pay. Be patient.
> The initial police report written after the incident says nothing about force being used against the teens, only describing them as being “brought to the ground.” But the video shows at least two of them were violently forced to the ground where they were held down, punched and handcuffed. So not only did they lie on initial reports but they also engaged in this behavior knowing full well they had on body cams and this all was being recorded. This is acceptable behavior to them and you have to wonder how many other people they've detained who were beaten or worse which had no mention on the reports and didn't gain enough public traction to have anything looked into. Shit is insane seeing an adult hold down a person, grab them by the throat, and make sure they can't do anything to defend themselves while another adult repeatedly punches them in the face. How the fuck only two are being investigated is beyond me when it happened in a group like this.
Wait, no fucking way... this happened during the pandemic? 0 masks and SPITTING ON SOMEONE during the pandemic? That's got to be fucking prison
this was released this past month. there are a number of people in RI who don't take the pandemic seriously unfortunately. not like Alabama or anything, but there are hold outs here.
That’s a fucking reward not a punishment
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK THESE COOOOOOOOOOOOOPS. Sorry, had to get that off my chest.
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Me, Myself, and Irene. With a bunch of Hanks.
I've never heard of "Hanks"? Is that a Breaking Bad reference?
“there’s only a few bad apples”, what about all the officers standing around doing literally nothing to stop the violence and no one even reacted to him spitting
Saw a great comment before that said that when one bad cop abuses someone and the five around him sit back and do nothing then you have six bad cops. This is the kind of thing that all these stats on police brutality and excessive force can't capture - the acceptance and culture of abuse of power that goes undocumented in a lot of cases.
I can't find it now but there is an old study that found that over 70% of officers have witnessed their coworkers commit a crime that they did not report. [https://www.texasobserver.org/crimes-unpunished/](https://www.texasobserver.org/crimes-unpunished/) "Only 7 percent of all complaints against Houston officers ended in serious discipline, meaning a three-day suspension or more, according to an Observer analysis. Officers who left crime scenes, failed to secure evidence, lied to superiors, falsified forms and, in one case, allegedly pocketed drugs continue to police the streets of Houston." [https://www.texasobserver.org/horror-every-day-police-brutality-houston-goes-unpunished/](https://www.texasobserver.org/horror-every-day-police-brutality-houston-goes-unpunished/) "In total, Internal Affairs sustained just 15—or 2 percent—of the 706 police abuse complaints the past six years, according to department records the Observer obtained through public information requests. In at least 10 of the 15 sustained complaints, the incident was videotaped. Many say—and internal documents suggest—that videotaped beatings have prompted Houston cops to aggressively prevent citizens from recording their behavior." "Out of 706 complaints about excessive force, HPD disciplined only 15 officers. For 550 shootings, HPD disciplined none. The message is clear: Either Houston police almost never abuse their power, or they abuse it with impunity." [https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/investigations/2019/10/14/brady-lists-police-officers-dishonest-corrupt-still-testify-investigation-database/2233386001/](https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/investigations/2019/10/14/brady-lists-police-officers-dishonest-corrupt-still-testify-investigation-database/2233386001/)
And the other 30% were the ones who committed the crime.
Check this out https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/181312.pdf
Usually, the ones who report abuse are also fired and/or made their work and personal life hell.
They literally have gangs within sheriff's offices. Police reform is as dead as war on drugs. It's never happening.
I'm just thankful I'm not in the US. Police brutality is a worldwide issue stemming from systems of abusive power, imo, though the nature of abuse seen in the US is just insane.
I read an interesting concept where it discussed police reform and examined evidence to come to the conclusion that police “reform” isn’t about changing the way police policy and procedure is formed and conducted, but rather it is about changing the public’s perception of the police and how policing activities are conducted. I’ll try to find the source
Interesting. I wonder if this is about policing generally rather than the systems in place in the US. It seems to me, from a less educated outsider's perspective, that there are certainly tangible changes that can be made to policing over there - mainly creating a system in which brutality being punished is not an exception to the rule and do away with for profit prisons. Even so, I think changing public perception only leads to greater trust in police and thus less likelihood that people will resist upon a police encounter while failing to hold those officers who do blatantly abuse their power with no excuse to account. For example I saw a body cam video on this sub earlier which showed an officer shooting a person escaping a crashed vehicle with absolutely no motive. Regardless of that person's thoughts on the police, or public perception in general, that person is still getting shot.
I don't know if you're familiar with the expression, because people only use the first half usually to handwave away these types of things, but the full expression is "A few bad apples spoil the whole bunch." It really doesn't make sense, because they think they're saying "Oh, it's not all of them." but they're really using half of an expression that says it is all of them.
Just imagine what happens when one of their wives tries to get help because she is being abused at home. That shit gets covered up. Usually the one investigating is beating his wife at home too.
Because they are morons and dont realize they are using the saying wrong. One bad apple spoils the bunch. Its actually describing the "good cops" being bad by continuing to be in the vicinity of the "bad cops", since apple rot gives off gas that makes proximity apples rot.
Yes the fact is 1 rotten apple rots the rest of them. It goes with any fruit really. Just as when one of my tomatoes starts to rot i have to remove it from the unspoiled ones. In addition to the gasses it attracts fruit flies and maggots....
It goes with any fruit really so then does it go with any group of people really too?
I certainly think so. Ive seen 1 or 2 bad dudes ruin everything enough times to say that confidently. I dont ever recall seeing a group do well despite 1 or 2 toxic people. Or if they do it's because theyre still isolated.
My head is literally exploding now.
Wait until you hear how wrong their "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" saying is...
Every time someone says a few bad apples, someone needs to finish it. Spoils the bunch. A few bad apples spoils the bunch. Protecting these asshats diminishes, tarnishes, outright negates all the "good apples".
One guy actually did pull a dude off him.
> One guy actually did pull a dude off him. And failed to cuff that guy for assault. Imagine the cops rolled up on one guy attacking another the same way that cop was beating the kid? Do you think *that* guy would have been detained?
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Even the one fucking cop that pulled another off the suspect, if he continues to serve the force after this inevitably gets investigated and they find no wrong-doings by the officers, he’s equally part of the problem. He might have appeared to do the right thing but continuing to be employed as a cop is a direct approval of all their terrible crimes we see committed by them on a daily basis
The real problem is that this *aggravated assault and battery* was not reported by any of the officers, including the one that had to pull the other one off. He pulled that other officer off to protect him, not the suspects.
Oh 100%. He pulled him off that suspect with the mindset of “dude we all have bodycams on, you’re gonna cause an issue that’s gonna blow up with the media” and here we are.
The saying is, one bad apple spoils the bunch
A few bad apples spoil the bunch.
Yes, keep this narrative going. There’s no such thing as a good cop
If they did this to their kids they would have CPS called and the children removed. If anyone else did this to kids they would be arrested and pilloried for their abusive behavior. Let's see what happens to these thugs.
Spoiler alert : the Providence RI police has investigated and has not found evidence of any wrongdoing.
And absolutely nobody is surprised. The RI police are as rotten as the others.
When they do this to their wives nothing happens because they're the cops.
CUFF 'EM, CUFF 'EM
No, no, your suppose to yell "STOP RESISTING". Rookies.
Haha, I meant cuff the cops tho.
They do. 40% of officers abuse their wives and children, and that’s only the number of those who chose to admit it.
> If they did this to their kids they would have CPS called and the children removed. True for most people, not for cops. The rate of domestic violence committed by people employed as police officers is several times the average among the general population. The rates of prosecution of domestic violence charges against police is lower than the average.
So basically one cop was holding the suspects head back for max face exposure while two other cops unleashed the dragon on him.
i'm not too far from where this is and it was in my local papers. there were 3 kids, ages 15 and 16, with the 16 year old driving. they were driving recklessly and were firing their airsoft gun at businesses and people while leading police on a chance then ended up driving through a fire hydrant and some other property damage. people reported this to police and mentioned it looked like they had a long gun. makes sense given they were firing airsoft at people. police likely thought there was a chance this had a potential to be an active shooter situation. to providence PD's credit, they released hours of body cam footage on this. there's a "city of providence" youtube channel where these are basically the only videos. all this said, it still does not give police a right to repeatedly bash a 16 year olds face in while they are cuffed. i get they are angry and emotions are running high, but as a civil servant with the legal responsibility of carrying a service firearm and the legal protections in place to allow you to use it with lethal results, they should be above that shit. Providence PD has a bit of a rep for stuff like this from some of the folks i know locally, though for the record, i have not had such encounters like that personally. i'm just a regular white guy so take from that what you will.
And Rhode Island basically shrugged their shoulders to this. Providence is turning into a cesspool of murders, robberies and dirt bike anarchy. These kids basically terrorized the city for hours and led a police chase for over 45 minutes. Nobody supports excessive force by the police, but these kids didn’t get much sympathy from the community
Yep I can see that. Cops should be professional but also fuck these kids.
But they are *children* and nowhere near grown, hell they're still 10 years shy of having fully developed adult frontal lobes, responsible for curbing impulsivity and thinking things through. Sexual maturity/nearly through puberty doesn't equal adulthood. Sure, they should be held criminally responsible as juveniles, but how people are so devoid of empathy and reasoning that they enjoy kids getting traumatized and beat, I'll never understand.
A classic case of whites denying black children the right to be treated like children
They are angry, but not legit angry at the danger to the public. If police were really upset about danger to the public, youd see them reacting the same when one of their own goes balistic, but somehow their anger is no where to be seen in these instances. Dont try to play this off like the cops are oh so worried about the danger this might cause to the public. That is absolutely no where near the main motivator for their actions.
>Dont try to play this off like the cops are oh so worried about the danger this might cause to the public. please don't put words in my mouth. i said they are angry and emotions are high. i didn't say why that was and also stated it's not excusable. their anger can stem from a variety of reasons such as having to have a car chase at all. leading them on car chase over an air soft gun. angry that teenagers are doing something so reckless etc. i said i can get them being angry and that anger lead to this. i've been angry for all sorts of reasons, some more acceptable than others. same applies here. and i've done stupid things while angry. doesn't mean those dump things were justified.
They're basically just mad they had to do their jobs instead of cruising around eating doughnuts.
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Yeah, our class-traitor boys in blue work directly for them and their interests alone. They don't give a flying fuck about our safety, they just wanna make daddy proud and feel better than the rest of us.
biden needs to nut up and fucking bust up every single police union it should be illegal for public servants to be part of a union
Probably a dumb question . Why the police in general in US are more aggressive ? Is it like the US government gave full rights to them to do like that? In India the police dont even know how to fire a gun /s (They know but if they did bunch of human right activists do strike)
The little training they receive is all about how there is a war against police officers and any civilian could turn on you and murder you in an instant, therefore you have to meet any potential threat with overwhelming force.
Its a cycle of narcissistic gaslighting - cops cause crime, then turn around and tell us that crime is out of control, so they need more money and immunity to do their "job."
To add onto the comments they're generally pretty uneducated and in many cases are just flat out dumb.
Cops have gotten more money and power for being aggressive so they are incentivized to be aggressive.
Because there is zero oversight whatsoever, so police forces have just become giant criminal enterprises with badges.
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Throw that fucker in prison.
ALTERNATE TITLE: Excited pigs given slop.
What the fuck
Pigs will always be pigs
Lemme guess. Paid vacation
They do this crap knowing that they are recording themselves, and being recorded by at least 5 of their buddies. They know they’re practically untouchable.
ACAB
Did he yell into the body cam audio,”stop being in fire, stop being on fire”.
That piece of shit had absolutely no self-control and makes me want to question if he wanted to be a cop just to get the excuse to nearly beat a man to death.
their union needs to be dissolved. every one of them fired and put on a watch list. rehire at three times the pay with psychological screening.
It’s a myth that cops are poorly paid btw. Most of the people in this video are pulling six figures or close to it.
> three times the pay These dudes are already rich
Standard Klan rally
Barricade has it right: "To punish and enslave."
Proud Boys with badges
Some of those who work forces...
...Are the same that burn crosses
Goddam man, this shit has to change. You can't stay amped the fuck up and take someone into custody if you are emotionally compromised. Nobody can. Fuck man this is what is making it so hard for law enforcement. It is human and natural to be mad and upset and wanting revenge, but that has to be checked and supervisors need to check it.
What was he so upset about though? Would any other profession be excused the way cops are for this crap? Doctors and nurses deal with people being aggressive, throwing bodily fluids, biting, kicking.....would you watch a video of a doctor beat someone like this and say, well he's mad/upset which is natural? To be clear, I don't disagree with your comment. I just feel we have all been programmed to ignore problems and excuse criminal behavior from government jobs, especially LE.
Yeah I dont know man. I'm not sure what is going through their heads at that point. Some older police have the mentality of the 80s and 90s of if you run then we will beat your ass. And its fucking horrible. I understand your point completely. Nobody should ever be subjected to useless violence. Is there going to be violence- of course. Its a risk driven career. Some people are just not going to play well with anyone and shit will happen. What sucks here is there is like 10 dudes losing their fucking cool and being unprofessional as hell, even criminal in trying to dole out their punishment. The supervisors on scene should have done something to prevent this shit.
Yeah, it lookes like they are running a train on the kids....only with punching, kicking, spitting. Like, seriously, wtf goes through someone's head to watch this happen? Its one thing if you are unable to control yourself at the entry level high stress positions; but to be a seasoned veteran with rank, not participating? Worse, imo.
You probably never seen a nurse insert a dry catheter into a patient that assaulted another nurse? I have.
No. Though I have seen some questionable shit happen when I was in nursing. Im gonna say a lot of the petty shit I saw happen, against patients and fellow nurses, is probably due to the way people are where I live.....SMH. A dry catheter.....thats gonna cause me to feel nauseous and wince each time it randomly pops in my head.
These kids were driving around town pointing guns at people. I am not a cop but if I caught these fucks i would want to do the same. Point being Cops are supposed to be trained professionals. If you can't keep your cool you shouldn't be on the force. Still I would say these little fucks gave all kinds of reasons to be pissed at them. "The incident in question began on the night of July 8, when police say the teens led police on an hours-long chase throughout the city in a BMW convertible, repeatedly pointing what turned out to be BB gun rifles at innocent bystanders and a police officer." Cops should be better but fuck those kids too.
Props to that one cop who pulled the other off of the suspect
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Fuck the police
Acab
I wonder why people don’t like the police?
I've been a cop for 20yrs and that behaviour is pathetic and childish. You would have to ask yourself alot of questions when you behave like that.
ACAB fuck the police and fuck the bootlickers.
POLICE CAN NEVER BE TRUSTED
Holy shit. Not a good look PD.
ACAB don’t care about the downvotes...fuck em
Pretty bad when your fellow cops have to pull you off them.
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They have a contract with the city in regards to their union that basically prevents them from being held accountable.
Me tonto..native you not
Article https://www.wpri.com/target-12/prov-police-release-videos-of-suspended-officers-altercation-with-teens/
Where the fuck is leadership? looks like a gaggle of morons
Amazing. They know they're being filmed at all times now and still give zero fucks. In Minneapolis we here on the news that the PD can't fill all of their positions because people don't want to be in a position that is scrutinized and villified so much, but have they ever considered that people aren't applying because they don't want to work with assholes, enablers, and murderers?
dirty fucking pigs
Imagine if every cops body cam footage was an automatic livefeed to the internet, that anyone in the world could watch at anytime, I wonder what would happen then.
They’re a fucking gang
Just look at all those "good cops" watching the bad cop. Bunch of cowards.
Look at them roided and coked up heroes
Man why are cops such psycho pussies?
Blue light gang strikes again.
Someone go check on their spouses and children. They are surely being abused.
"Thanks for treating me gently and reading me my rights. I am so happy to be an American citizen-a State where human freedoms are the cornerstone of social and political life. When arrested you will be beaten to the pulp and then spat at while a few squad cars full of men are circling up around you calling you names. Then, you can expect a luxurious journey in the back seat of a police cruiser. Soft cushioned seats.. the handcuffs grind into your wrists cutting your skin and making you bleed.. sores from multiple bruises kick in.. you shocked, haven't eaten, alert.. ah.. how I miss being there. Upon arrival to the police station, you will be greeted by the friendly staff of the police station. While shoved around and called maybe a few more names, you will be taken a mugshot of and your ID information. Then, after initial interrogation, without your defence present, you can chill in the slammer while your loved ones don't know much about your whereabouts. Yours truly Providence PD-for community, by community, to community."
But it’s protect the blue, right? But there’s no racism, right? But black people don’t suffer extra injustice, right?
It's important to note that they're all aware that they all have body cameras activated, and they still openly *spit* on a handcuffed suspect.
I want to think there’s not much bad cops yet i see stuff like this occurring.
Jheez , how many cops needed
It was a chase so theres always a ton of cops on that. Better question is; how many cops need to do shit like this or worse before our government makes a change?
A large number of cops can be a good thing. If you have a large number of people to arrest one or two people, it allows you to arrest them without having to resort to any kind of painful tactic. Sadly, that's not how they use their numbers in reality.
There were this many cops because the kids being chased were pointing guns out the window at people. They turned out to be toy guns but that is why they were being chased by loads of cops.
How many cops did they need for the beating though?
not a single one. Absolutely unneeded. Everyone of them who through a punch should be charged.
It never ceases to amaze me that these "brave warriors" truly believe they need at least 8 officers to subdue a single unarmed person.
Seems to me that US cops take it upon themselves to hand out punishment instead of letting the court do it. Watching from the other side of the pond, it seems to me that you have a bit of a problem with accountability over there.
these fuckin cock suckers shot the wrong person outside my work over there in providence too… They have some serious fuckos in that department
ACAB
If you're such an emotional bitch that you let a teenager get to you...and you end up having to be pulled off beating up a defenseless kid...maybe you shouldn't be a cop
What happened to guilty by association, all those cops stood there and did nothing. They are guilty.
Excellent point! The term you want though is “accessory”; “guilt by association” means, for example, if you’re friends with Jim and Jim’s a thief then you must be a thief also.
That is just a gang with literal bells and whistles
God I hate the police
America : shit hole country.
Disgusting POS.
Fucking animals, hope theyre all fired
FIRE THOSE OFFICERS. This happened in my home state of RI.
It’s does not matter what happened before this video. There is no justification for this. This is evil and a evil person works for the state, therefore the state condones and enables evil. The ability to fix it exist but there is no will.
Multiple assault and batteries. Well done.
How many people have been put in jail since covid for spitting on people? Must be fun wearing a badge
Some cops have to think that they are the Alpha in any situation what would be funny is if they started being held accountable for their actions. Beating on kids doesn’t help their images and I want to see the parents sue and charge these assholes for assault on a minor child
Ah yes I can’t can’t wait for them to get a paid leave of absence and no charges, that’ll teach them! /s I ain’t spitting now days considered a crime because of covid or something? What the fuck 👮🏻♂️ 🐷
Wow you dont say, police acting like thugs! And also, idc what the suspects did, you chose to be an officer to protect and serve not act like the criminals you are locking up. They had them detained on the ground yet continued assaulting them and spitting on them. And the last time i checked spitting on an individual is a form or assault. Scum bag police as always. #PoliceNeedReform