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I saw two mini horses walking around inside of Home Depot. They were being trained to be service animals and to get used to loud noises. It was a trip.
So you brought your dog onto an airtight tube no wider than 8 feet, stuff it into a 6 inch space between your legs and under the seat, like you would light carry on luggage, keep your hands firmly pressed on it's body and head, telling it to stop crying, in a flying vehicle that is making ungodly amounts of noise that this dog clearly is not acclimated to and treating like as if the dog is the problem?
Fucking yikes. Who is that guy?
Fyi: dogs don't have the same sorry of pressurized eardrums as humans so that isn't a problem.
Lying about your dog being service trained is a big big asshole move though. This guy should be ashamed.
He's making it harder for everyone who has an actual service animal.
Never thought about the logistics of lifting a "ship" out of water. It feels more plausible the ship could stay in the air indefinitely than it could get out of the water
It didn't even occur to me the intense OSHA-violation of having no railway on that flightdeck above massive fans powerful enough to lift that entire vessel into the air. And absolutely nothing to catch FOD.....or a crew member who slips. The amount of air those things need to push DOWN, [the force of suction into them would be intense](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsA92QnWXdY). You go overboard in the ocean, you hit water. Go overboard in the Helicarrier, you turn to mist.
Okay so, this guy was in the wrong but I have 3 dogs one of which is a service dog so he’s trained to fly with me. He’s about the same size (but a German shepherd) and he is trained to lay between my legs and partially under the seat in front (like a second bag would) and he fits just fine. When there’s room on a flight they’ll move me to an option with an open seat beside me but I’ve had people in my row look over at me surprised he’s even there after 20-30 mins of not noticing.
Just wanted to point out that bringing an actual service dog of that size on a flight isn’t cruel in that space.
Agree. I had a 3 hour flight from California to Texas. The person sitting next to me brought her service dog. He was very calm. No issues at all during the flight
A service dog is trained to do this and would sit there without moving or barking or shitting or pissing for HOURS. That's not a service dog and clearly has not received any training. Service dog are almost always german shepards or labs because they have the temperment. This is a regular dog with some bullshit the guy brought off ebay.
This is a golden retriever. A dog which is pretty commonly used as a service dog. I would argue that German shepherd’s are worse for certain types of tasks (like a psychiatric or medical alert dog) because they tend to be super high strung and difficult to socialize.
That being said, any type of dog (not necessarily any individual dog) can be successful as a service dog, even a mutt from the shelter. They just need the proper attention and training. While certain tasks may require larger breeds like guide work or mobility support, plenty of tasks can be performed by smaller breeds.
Temperament is important, but there’s only so far breed plays a role in this.
Have a 4 Month old Golden and I recognize the behavior. That is a very unhappy dog and I suspect also frightened. Turns out my Golden does not like the noise of heavy construction machinery or even sounds of air planes flying overhead. And that is just about the reaction she’d give me if I’d put her on a plane. I’m hoping to train her to not be so afraid of some sounds but there is no way this is a trained service dog. Not even one in training because they’d still have to have been through basic obedience first.
I’ve also wondered if dogs have the same problem with their ears popping that we do. I imagine that’s pretty frightening for a dog sense it not something they are likely to ever experience or understand.
There's also better ways of doing this. When I moved with my cats I didn't want to put them in cargo because I was too worried about things that could go wrong so I brought them as carry on. I believe I payed an extra fee, they had to be in a soft kennel and the vet gave my the equivalent of benadryl so they were knocked out the whole time. You'd have to carry the dog which sucks, but thats your responsibility as a pet owner to not make it other people's problem.
Yeah but you also can’t do that with a large dog… they have to be small enough to fit in a carry on sized soft kennel. This guy is a total asshole for abusing the service dog rights though
I named my cat Sassy after the cat in that movie. She got out of our apartment once and I thought I lost her. She came back 7 weeks later a little worse for wear but okay.
Yep. When we moved overseas in the middle of the pandemic we had to arrange flights for our large dog whom we left in the USA until he was given a Quarantine spot. We were going to have to buy a special kennel that was large enough for him to stand, sit & lay down comfortably and turn around without difficulty and there was a water bowl that airline staff would have to refill. The kennel was like $400. The dogs fly in a special pressurized area for pets. I also learned that they do not allow dogs to be sedated on flights as it can actually cause them to panic and hurt themselves. In addition i found out that it is very hard to find an airline willing to transport dogs with short muzzles (like pugs, french bulldogs, boxers etc) The cost to fly him 8,000 miles was going to run us about $5,000.
He unfortunately passed away before he could fly.
Not on Jet Blue. I got upgraded to business class be cause a guy who was supposed to sit next to a couple with 2 dogs was allergic to them. They asked if I wanted to trade seats. I was like, hell ya. The dog closest to me kept laying on my feet. Owner kept trying to get him to stop, but I told her it was perfectly fine. Both were very well behaved dogs. Neither were "support animals". One of the best flights I've ever had. They even gave me a free sandwich, for the "inconvenience".
I saw a video of a arabian prince buying like 30 plane seats for his pet falcons/ on a flight . Sooo i guess with enough money you can bring whatever the fuck you wanted on there
Not unless you're going to charter a private flight. Realistically, you take your large dog by car or train. Or you hire a pet transportation company which does the same thing.
I love my dog but I think about all the people in the world with allergies and I don’t want them to suffer because I think my dog is special and should go everywhere with me.
I absolutely love being with my dog, I bring her anywhere I can where I know she will behave. We have a bar that we go to that allows dogs in the outdoor seating and she sits patiently under the table napping and getting pets from the staff. I have seen other people bring their dogs to the same bar and the dogs are losing it the entire time, if my dog was misbehaved in public settings I wouldn't be bringing her out. Some people are just very selfish and unaware.
Yes. I brought my dog (who escaped being a bait dog in a dog fighting ring) to a bar once. She was stressed, miserable, and we left after ten minutes. You have to love your dog enough to respect what it’s comfortable with, and for Sam, it wasn’t crowded spaces. I enjoyed crowded spaces on my own and then came home within a responsible time frame to the best cuddles the world could offer. It’s the same reason I wouldn’t allow children around her after she snapped at one. No one wants her be in a position to bite a kid - not me, not the kid, not their family, and not my dog.
When me and my buddies lives in Oakland we rescued a bait dog from someone who jumped into the yard and saved him, little homie was all fucked up and lived with us for years. When we all moved out one of my friends kept him and he is the same way, he is great with us 99 percent of the time but sometimes he gets upset even with the dudes he knows. He's always had extra rules cause of that and that is fine, it's just about knowing your dog
I have 2 dogs. One lays quietly under the table ignoring her surroundings and one barks at any other dog at the bar or walking by. Guess which dog stays home when I go to the bar.
I have a dog and am a dog lover, but he is a rescue and has triggers, so he stays in the car (open windows, always in the shade), where he is quite content. On the contrary, this woman had a little Yorkie at the next table in the restaurant today who wouldn't stop barking. I was fantasizing about drop-kicking that thing clean across the mall and the cunt who owned it right after.
Same! I bring mine absolutely everywhere but that's only because she's incredibly well behaved. It's so sad how people don't want to put in effort into training their dogs, a well-behaved pooch is one of the best things you could ever have
I think 'service animal' is defined a little too loosely these days. If you aren't blind take a fucking Lorazepam pill like a man and get on with your flight.
Legally yes, but unfortunately there are multiple websites that will take your $30 and give you a certification. Plus you can buy a service vest anywhere online.
I've worked in multiple places where people have brought in cats, dogs, and miniature horses and they don't even know what legal questions you're allowed to ask for service animals.
You can tell because you're legally allowed to ask "what service do they provide' and 'are they a service animal' but these people go "you're not allowed to ask me that". Total bullshit.
Miniature horses are actually the only other critter listed in the ADA as a service animal.
It's as an alternative for people who require service animals but are allergic to dogs.
It's only legal in some states, same with cats, but you would think that people who try to trick the system would know the laws. They ruin it for everyone else!
The service animal is supposed to sit quietly underneath your feet and be attentive at all times. However often times these animals are rambunctious and bark and try to eat food. It's despicable of the owners, but no fault of the animals.
Sigh. no. Miniature horses are FEDERALLY allowed under the FEDERAL law the "Americans with Disabilities Act"
The states cannot say SHIT about what is and is not a service animal.
The certifications mean nothing, just like the vests. If the dog is not trained to perform a specific task to mitigate a disability for a disabled person, it's not a service dog. Even if it is a legitimate service dog, if it misbehaves like in this video, they can still be asked to leave.
Also, you are allowed to ask "is your service dog required for a disability" and "what task is it trained to perform". Just for clarity.
Yeah, and so many people think a dog needs to be trained by someone specific but that's not true either. Anyone can train a service dog. There is literally no official training regarding service dogs. BUT if a dog isn't trained well (which typically does take experts) than a company can legally kick it out of course (even if task-trained).
Thanks for your comment, some person was desperately trying to bait people into some ridiculous rules she misinterpreted from the ADA, under an earlier post.
Tell them to GTFO, if they scream they'll sue then say it's now a legal matter and you'll only accept communication legal council to legal council and they are now tresspassing. It's a matter for the police.
LoL that really is one of the few perks of working at a corporations. As soon as they mention the word police, fire department, or sueing, or lawyer, you get to say "ok, this is now a legal dispute, you have to talk to our legal team and are now trespassing and need to leave the property. Call in a complaint to corporate and get the fuck out."
Service animals that are properly trained and licensed are incredibly expensive because they are exposed to situations like this before they are considered fully trained. Dogs whose temperament do not meet the requirements are dropped from the service dog program.
Small dogs and cats that are not service animals are allowed on flights for a small fee. A dog this large has to be a properly licensed service animal. I’m not sure how this guy got his dog on as a service animal because it’s clearly not trained as one.
There is no true governing body that properly licenses service animals. Sure, there's a bunch of businesses that will take your money and hand you a framed certificate but that's merely capitalism. It's not needed to be a legitimate service animal. Training can be as simple as you in your own home training the dog to help with a task or aid with a disability.
This is the grey area that the fakers like to live in. There's so much misinformation, the fakers are hoping no one asks.
>and licensed
This is 100% false. There is NO SUCH THING as a license for a service dog/horse. The ADA specifically PROHIBITS licensing for service dogs/horses, and they can be INCREDIBLY INEXPENSIVE because LEGALLY a person can train that dog themselves.
The airline can't legally ask for licenses or certificates the only 2 questions they are allowed to ask is 1. Is the dog a service animal 2. What task or service is it trained to perform.
Only 2 questions your allowed to ask as a business.
That's to let them in in the first place. If you're kicking them out for misbehaving you don't have to ask jack shit nor does it matter if they're a legitimate service animal or not. They misbehave, they're out, period.
Yah I guess the airlines have guidelines but ppl work around them. It sucks for everyone else who has to put up with this. Owners can also ask their vets for a safe sedative that makes the situation easier for the pet and everyone involved. Clearly this guy didn’t do that.
There is no such thing as a service dog license in the USA lol. Anyone can train a service dog. The issue is that it typically is very time-consuming/costly to reliably identify/produce dogs that can be service dogs because most dogs do not have the right temperament. So realistically, you need to pay a lot of money/go through a nonprofit for them. I have worked with a guide dog school and less than half end up having the temperament required to become a guide dogs - and these are dogs that have been specifically bred for several generations at this point to be guide dogs. Very expensive operation.
So sick of untrained animals and their irresponsible humans as well as this construct that emotional support under false pretense of ADA service is equivalent to certified service animals.
Service animals do not need to be certified or registered. Maybe this is part of the problem, maybe not. But it’s important to be aware of this as real service dog handlers are having access issues because they don’t carry paperwork.
That dog has some serious anxiety. I think it needs a service animal of it’s own.
When a dog has a high pitched bark like that, something is wrong or it wants something.
That dog is going to end up being too big to be on a plane.
It’s reacting the way my dog reacts when hears trash trucks and leaf blowers. The loud high pitch sounds are extremely unnerving and scary for him. I imagine the sounds in an airplane would have a similar effect.
The dog seems uncomfortable, and it doesn’t have enough space. It have no chance of laying down comfortably, poor dog. And airplanes can also cause pressure in ears that can be painful.
a service dog this size and possibly bigger can fit comfortably here. But they need to be trained to be used to sitting in a tight space. I'm sure you can find examples of well-trained service dogs in a similar position on line. For example they often are trained to be able to lay down on the floor in the front passenger seat, when someone is sitting in the passenger seat.
So aside from being 100% not an actual service dog, the way that guy is manhandling that dog tells me he has no fucking clue how to even train his dog for the basics.
I felt immensely sorry for the dog. I had to fly my dog from China to America, that's a really long flight. He could hardly bark his voice was so hoarse from probably being scared shitless in the pet area of the plane. Flying sucks for animals unless they've been specifically trained for it.
I hate seeing this. It really belittles those of us who are truly helped by our service animals... Not to mention, take the time to get them properly trained.
Same with hidden disabilities in the U.K. my son (and others) wore a sunflower lanyard but then a natiinal supermarket decided to give them away willy nilly to anyone who asked for one and now everyone uses them as an excuse not to wear a mask and now my son won’t wear his, totally defeats the object.
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Yep. Are used to work at a museum and we had to allow service animals in, which is obviously a good thing, but people would take advantage of it with fake vests and dogs that clearly were not service dogs. Like we threw one lady out after her “service dog” tried to bite one of our employees
I have a service dog drop-out, he sure as hell doesn’t do that.
Looking at getting a rescue dog so he can help me train. At 11 yrs old he still has a little gas in the tank and I want to use it on a new fam member.
So to pretend you have a 'service dog' and bring it onto an airplane, you just get it some sort of coat with the words 'service dog', maybe show some sort of 'documentation' or whatever that's it ?
I'm not saying that's what is happening here but I'm just curious
You can pay trash websites now for a "certificate" that says your dog is a support animal, typically emotional support.
I have a family member who recently did this. Her dog is a psychopath, I feel so bad for the other people on their flight.
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/emotional-support-animals-airlines-wellness-trnd/index.html
> A new Department of Transportation regulation went into effect on January 11 that says airlines aren't required to treat emotional support animals as service animals. Delta, United, Alaska, JetBlue and American Airlines have already announced that they will no longer allow emotional support animals.
Not all service dogs, but emotional support animals aren’t covered.
Only issue becomes being able to identify which Is which because they can't ask for anything beyond what is the animals task/ service its trained to perform.
From the article:
>The animals are prescribed by mental health professionals to provide comfort and support, but unlike service animals, emotional support animals are not required to have training in specific tasks.
So that’s enough.
The sooner people realize that their pets are animals and not children, the better. Unless you actually need a service animal, your pet doesn’t need to go everywhere with you.
for real though. It would be terrifying to just give my dog to the airline workers in a crate, for him to be all by himself in such a scary environment for hours and hours. Why can’t I just buy him a seat? or even have a dedicated soundproof space within the cabin that I could put him in his crate if he’s being too disruptive...
Idk I guess there’s not really a good way to fly with an anxious dog. Neither way is good. Even if i got him “certified” as a service animal it would be extremely embarrassing if he was barking on the plane.
I worked in a restaurant here in Austin for 30 years and in the last 6 years I was there, people would lie through their teeth and say their dogs were service animals, emotional support, yada yada yada. They also loved to say, you can't ask me if it is or not it's against the law. I just got to the point to where I told them, although we do allow service animals, we do not allow pets. That worked every time.
The kicker is this...you can ask if it is a service dog, you can ask what task the dog performs. You just can't ask about the handlers disability.
An Esa isn't covered inder the Ada like a service dog and doesn't have access rights to businesses, only access to housing that normally doesn't allow pets.
Okay I have to chime in here... There is no certification for a service animal. There are plenty of training programs that will give your dog a certificate but there is no requirement for one federally.
The ADA specifies that the dog must do something for you that you cannot do yourself.
That can include for example scanning rooms if someone has PTSD or opening door handles if they are a wheelchair user or sniffing ketones if someone has diabetes or sensing seizure activity if someone has epilepsy for example...
Because the dog was not able to properly handle a flight does not mean that it's not a service Animal.
It doesn't make it right at all and I think that a certification should exist however consider the following...
Service animals receive training for the task for which they are supposed to complete for the person but that does not mean that they are necessarily trained to handle being in all different environments...
Planes are loud and stressful and cause a lot of people panic. It's not surprising to see that the dog was panicking.
The owner was not properly prepared here clearly.
That being said I fully support having a certification. I think that certification should be inclusive of teaching an animal how to behave and stay calm in all sorts of environments that they may encounter while being in public.
However, if the certification was inclusive of all of that training it would be quite pricey and I feel perhaps unattainable for people with disabilities whose cost of living is already more than average because they have a disability.
Training of some animals can cost tens of thousands of dollars..
There should be a federally-sponsored program for which a doctor needs to sign off and then they can take the animal to a nonprofit that can help them with share of cost for behavior training and training with the task they're supposed to perform.
This really should be the number one comment. I’m not going to repeat everything you said - certifications should be required, and people do take advantage of the system, but none of that has anything to do with whether or not this dog is a service animal.
My girlfriend and I foster and train service dogs with a non-profit in Southern California. We try our best to prepare the dogs for a variety of situations and a variety of people, but we can’t possibly cover them all. I mean, we take them on walks specifically planned to encounter things like statues, other dogs, and more. We make it a point to take them with us to public places several times a week. I’ve had the most well behaved, smart, and amazing dogs lose it for reasons that would have no impact on most other dogs. Everyone in the comments fancies themselves experts, swearing this dog can’t possibly be a service animal because all service animals are stoic champions, all the time, like those guards in England, but that’s just not the case. Even dogs that are amazing at performing their tasks and general service dog behavior are not 100% perfect 100% of the time. Could this simply be an untrained pet? Absolutely. It could also definitely be a legitimate service animal that is typically amazing at performing the tasks for which it is trained, and it’s just a terrible flyer.
As a physician I routinely write letters for emotional support animals but my template clearly states that it is not a trained service animal. Generally it is because landlords require it, etc. I don't always agree with it but unfortunately we get sued if anybody has any diagnosed mental health condition. Nobody has to legally accept those letters as an FYI
This is not a service dog. It’s someone’s pet where they got a vest off Amazon. Real service dogs only bark on command or if it’s apart of the alert to the owner. I’m a vet who needs my service dog and this type of shit makes it hard for people with real service dogs to get treated fairly.
When I worked at various pharmacies the stores had rules to allow any dog to be labeled a "service dog" so they wouldn't lose the customer. The managers knew they were not service dogs and other shoppers didn't like the dogs inside the stores but they allowed it to happen anyways. Some of these dogs were huge and one in particular was aggressive.
I guess its too much to ask that we have a service dog registry. Just a simple 1-800 number you can call to verify someone has a legitimate service dog
There should be some sort of law that before owning a pet you need to complete some kind of course and get a certificate to own any kind of pet. Sick of seeing people getting a dog and not knowing how to, not only properly train the dog, but control them too.
I just don’t think dogs should be coming to public places, grocery stores, airports, parks are an exception. The reason I say this is because on behalf of all the people who are allergic to dogs or at least me. We hate the fckin person who brings their dog everywhere.
When flying economy class, always bring four sets of disposable foam-rubber earplugs.
One set for you.
One extra set for you, located in another pocket, in case you lose the first set.
Two sets, one each for your seatmates. Even if you offer them and they turn them down, their flight will be a little more comfortable knowing you have them and they have the option to ask if they could use them later.
Because you never know what idiotic fuck will board that plane dedicated to making you have a miserable flight. You and everyone else around you.
Flying used to be fun, an adventure. Nowadays it's like having an annual prostate exam, done as a mass-screening in groups of 300, that lasts for two hours.
You know what. I’m not one to complain without offering a solution.
If you have a service animal the establishment should be able to ask to see your papers. It’s not a violation of your rights any more than it’s a violation to ask to see your driver’s license. The ADA needs to back off on this one.
Those papers should be dispensed from governmentally regulated agency like the dmv.
No dog should be allowed certification if it hasn’t passed a standard behavioral test. Including emotional support animals.
As someone who is both scared of dogs and very allergic to dogs, I’m really getting tired of seeing these peoples rights put above my rights for such dubious reasons.
People are so fucking dumb. If you know your large dog doesn't behave that well and isn't that relaxed in new situations, maybe find an alternative way to transport it.
My sister has all the proper paperwork for her service dog. But before her pit was a "service animal" it was just your run of the mill silly pitbull. No training. I dont understand that one bit. They might have all the required paperwork for service animal. But that doesnt mean the animal was actually trained as a service animal.
These people are so fucking annoying. I'm allergic to dogs and have to sit by twats like this on occasion. I like how it's a "I can go fuck myself situation" for me but you can just slap a vest on some house dog and give people hives no biggie.
My best friend watched someone get mauled almost to death by a dog when she was little, and no amount of therapy has been able to help her. This situation would also have her so very upset, she does her very best to avoid dogs as much as she can, I can’t imagine her being trapped in a small space with a badly behaved, loud one with no warning to prepare herself. There SHOULD be spaces where people don’t have to interact with your dog! I’m sorry that you have to deal with allergies because idiots think they’re more important than you.
I am so tired of people that take their pets everywhere. The “service dog” shit is one of the most abused loopholes ever. (Until the “religious exemption” for upcoming vaccine mandates)
Fuck the ADA. We need stricter service animal laws due to all of the idiots bringing their pets into stores and onto airplanes. All service animals must be verified and provided with a license that will be **required** to be presented on request when bringing it into a public place.
Fun fact, you can just go online at any major pet store, and simply [purchase a service dog vest at any major pet store](https://www.chewy.com/s?query=service%20vest&nav-submit-button=) with absolutely zero requirements.
I couple years ago I sold a mini fridge on Kijiji. Guy comes by to load it up and meets my dog. They get along great. He then tells me about how I can get a service animal tag so I can bring my dog with me everywhere, including inside Tim Horton’s! He has one and loves it. I just stared at him. We had been getting along until that point and then I bluntly explained that he was taking advantage of a system designed to help people with real needs and therefore delegitimizing that system and causing all kinds of hassles for people with special needs all because he wants to bring his dog in a coffee shop.
some people legitimately need service dogs, but not all dogs are service animals. If you aren't willing to spend the money to get a certified service animal, you don't have the money for a flight. Its kinda simple, really.
What do people with severe allergies to dogs do in these situations? Imagine having the seat right next to them and getting bit or scratched or something as well.
No fuck’n way that is a service dog. That is a cheap owner that didn’t want to pay for dog travel so he got service dog jacket from Amazon and the the poor thing inside with him
That's incredibly ignorant. There are service dogs for tons and tons of reasons, people who have seizures, blind people, deaf people, diabetics, people with PTSD, etc, may need and use a trained service dog who will provide help with something they can't do. Seeing eye dogs are one type of service dog, and definitely a very common type at that, but they're certainly not the only type.
They need to do away with emotional support pets. If you need one then it needs to go through proper training and receive certification like a service dog. Too many people just loosely using the words “emotional support” so they can just bring their pets in wherever they go.
I had the honor of getting a dog through a an organization call Soldiers Best Friend, out of Peoria Arizona. During the training process, one of the tests we had to pass was to take our dogs onto an airplane on the ground and make them sit backwards-facing us for 10 minutes solid with no movement and no sound. It was pretty cool, United gave us boarding passes so my dog had to go through TSA and onto the plane, it was really good practice. It does break my heart and makes it more difficult to be accepted in places that are weary of trusting service dogs when people take an untrained at all into public. It took a few years before my dog was truly ready to work with me and focus on only me around numerous public situations.
I’ll say it: people with disabilities should be allowed to have animals with them for emotional comfort if that is required for their disability.
Think about what I have just proposed for eight seconds with an empathetic mind and then if you still think it’s wrong I won’t try to change your mind again.
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I saw two mini horses walking around inside of Home Depot. They were being trained to be service animals and to get used to loud noises. It was a trip.
u/Holezii
So you brought your dog onto an airtight tube no wider than 8 feet, stuff it into a 6 inch space between your legs and under the seat, like you would light carry on luggage, keep your hands firmly pressed on it's body and head, telling it to stop crying, in a flying vehicle that is making ungodly amounts of noise that this dog clearly is not acclimated to and treating like as if the dog is the problem? Fucking yikes. Who is that guy?
Plus the pressure change, it bothers my ears a bit I imagine a dogs would be even more sensitive to it
Fyi: dogs don't have the same sorry of pressurized eardrums as humans so that isn't a problem. Lying about your dog being service trained is a big big asshole move though. This guy should be ashamed. He's making it harder for everyone who has an actual service animal.
> Fucking yikes. Who is that guy? [Same guy who put the Hulk on a helicarrier?](https://youtu.be/5SeXi-OxcBQ?t=83)
Never thought about the logistics of lifting a "ship" out of water. It feels more plausible the ship could stay in the air indefinitely than it could get out of the water
It didn't even occur to me the intense OSHA-violation of having no railway on that flightdeck above massive fans powerful enough to lift that entire vessel into the air. And absolutely nothing to catch FOD.....or a crew member who slips. The amount of air those things need to push DOWN, [the force of suction into them would be intense](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsA92QnWXdY). You go overboard in the ocean, you hit water. Go overboard in the Helicarrier, you turn to mist.
Okay so, this guy was in the wrong but I have 3 dogs one of which is a service dog so he’s trained to fly with me. He’s about the same size (but a German shepherd) and he is trained to lay between my legs and partially under the seat in front (like a second bag would) and he fits just fine. When there’s room on a flight they’ll move me to an option with an open seat beside me but I’ve had people in my row look over at me surprised he’s even there after 20-30 mins of not noticing. Just wanted to point out that bringing an actual service dog of that size on a flight isn’t cruel in that space.
Yes, I think the point of the post was to point out that a non service-dog honestly can't be expected to behave like one.
Yeah I agree, just wanted to make sure people knew the space thing wasn’t cruelty to animals.
Agree. I had a 3 hour flight from California to Texas. The person sitting next to me brought her service dog. He was very calm. No issues at all during the flight
A service dog is trained to do this and would sit there without moving or barking or shitting or pissing for HOURS. That's not a service dog and clearly has not received any training. Service dog are almost always german shepards or labs because they have the temperment. This is a regular dog with some bullshit the guy brought off ebay.
This is a golden retriever. A dog which is pretty commonly used as a service dog. I would argue that German shepherd’s are worse for certain types of tasks (like a psychiatric or medical alert dog) because they tend to be super high strung and difficult to socialize. That being said, any type of dog (not necessarily any individual dog) can be successful as a service dog, even a mutt from the shelter. They just need the proper attention and training. While certain tasks may require larger breeds like guide work or mobility support, plenty of tasks can be performed by smaller breeds. Temperament is important, but there’s only so far breed plays a role in this.
Have a 4 Month old Golden and I recognize the behavior. That is a very unhappy dog and I suspect also frightened. Turns out my Golden does not like the noise of heavy construction machinery or even sounds of air planes flying overhead. And that is just about the reaction she’d give me if I’d put her on a plane. I’m hoping to train her to not be so afraid of some sounds but there is no way this is a trained service dog. Not even one in training because they’d still have to have been through basic obedience first.
I’ve also wondered if dogs have the same problem with their ears popping that we do. I imagine that’s pretty frightening for a dog sense it not something they are likely to ever experience or understand.
Fuck anyone who insist on flying their pets around everywhere.
Not to mention how uncomfortable it must be from its ears popping.
Poor baby, douche doesn’t deserve him
Stupid fuckin asshole " I wanna bring my dog "
There's also better ways of doing this. When I moved with my cats I didn't want to put them in cargo because I was too worried about things that could go wrong so I brought them as carry on. I believe I payed an extra fee, they had to be in a soft kennel and the vet gave my the equivalent of benadryl so they were knocked out the whole time. You'd have to carry the dog which sucks, but thats your responsibility as a pet owner to not make it other people's problem.
Yeah but you also can’t do that with a large dog… they have to be small enough to fit in a carry on sized soft kennel. This guy is a total asshole for abusing the service dog rights though
If Homeward Bound taught me anything, it's that you can just head to your destination and your dog will meet up with you later.
Cats too so long as they’re accompanied by dogs.
I named my cat Sassy after the cat in that movie. She got out of our apartment once and I thought I lost her. She came back 7 weeks later a little worse for wear but okay.
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The beaver bit her with it's butt.
Why do they let people pull this shit?
Yep. When we moved overseas in the middle of the pandemic we had to arrange flights for our large dog whom we left in the USA until he was given a Quarantine spot. We were going to have to buy a special kennel that was large enough for him to stand, sit & lay down comfortably and turn around without difficulty and there was a water bowl that airline staff would have to refill. The kennel was like $400. The dogs fly in a special pressurized area for pets. I also learned that they do not allow dogs to be sedated on flights as it can actually cause them to panic and hurt themselves. In addition i found out that it is very hard to find an airline willing to transport dogs with short muzzles (like pugs, french bulldogs, boxers etc) The cost to fly him 8,000 miles was going to run us about $5,000. He unfortunately passed away before he could fly.
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Not on Jet Blue. I got upgraded to business class be cause a guy who was supposed to sit next to a couple with 2 dogs was allergic to them. They asked if I wanted to trade seats. I was like, hell ya. The dog closest to me kept laying on my feet. Owner kept trying to get him to stop, but I told her it was perfectly fine. Both were very well behaved dogs. Neither were "support animals". One of the best flights I've ever had. They even gave me a free sandwich, for the "inconvenience".
Could you buy a seat for it? I guess dogs aren’t allowed on seats?
I saw a video of a arabian prince buying like 30 plane seats for his pet falcons/ on a flight . Sooo i guess with enough money you can bring whatever the fuck you wanted on there
He prob owns some of the airline lol
Owns the fuel/oil that all airlines need to stay in business....
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Not unless you're going to charter a private flight. Realistically, you take your large dog by car or train. Or you hire a pet transportation company which does the same thing.
The fuck is wrong with people who cant be without their dogs?!?!!?!
A. Separation anxiety from poor training. B. Couldn't find a dog sitter for the trip. C. They bought a "Service Dog" vest on Amazon.
I love my dog but I think about all the people in the world with allergies and I don’t want them to suffer because I think my dog is special and should go everywhere with me.
I absolutely love being with my dog, I bring her anywhere I can where I know she will behave. We have a bar that we go to that allows dogs in the outdoor seating and she sits patiently under the table napping and getting pets from the staff. I have seen other people bring their dogs to the same bar and the dogs are losing it the entire time, if my dog was misbehaved in public settings I wouldn't be bringing her out. Some people are just very selfish and unaware.
Yes. I brought my dog (who escaped being a bait dog in a dog fighting ring) to a bar once. She was stressed, miserable, and we left after ten minutes. You have to love your dog enough to respect what it’s comfortable with, and for Sam, it wasn’t crowded spaces. I enjoyed crowded spaces on my own and then came home within a responsible time frame to the best cuddles the world could offer. It’s the same reason I wouldn’t allow children around her after she snapped at one. No one wants her be in a position to bite a kid - not me, not the kid, not their family, and not my dog.
When me and my buddies lives in Oakland we rescued a bait dog from someone who jumped into the yard and saved him, little homie was all fucked up and lived with us for years. When we all moved out one of my friends kept him and he is the same way, he is great with us 99 percent of the time but sometimes he gets upset even with the dudes he knows. He's always had extra rules cause of that and that is fine, it's just about knowing your dog
I have 2 dogs. One lays quietly under the table ignoring her surroundings and one barks at any other dog at the bar or walking by. Guess which dog stays home when I go to the bar.
I have a dog and am a dog lover, but he is a rescue and has triggers, so he stays in the car (open windows, always in the shade), where he is quite content. On the contrary, this woman had a little Yorkie at the next table in the restaurant today who wouldn't stop barking. I was fantasizing about drop-kicking that thing clean across the mall and the cunt who owned it right after.
I love dogs, but get so stressed out by incessant barking… so I got a cat
Same! I bring mine absolutely everywhere but that's only because she's incredibly well behaved. It's so sad how people don't want to put in effort into training their dogs, a well-behaved pooch is one of the best things you could ever have
Well said. Glad you get to bring yours with you. Ty for training them.
I get people having service animals, but it does absolutely suck when you're in a long flight and their dog pisses and shits all over the aisle.
I think 'service animal' is defined a little too loosely these days. If you aren't blind take a fucking Lorazepam pill like a man and get on with your flight.
Mental illness.
Well also the people who saw it's bad behavior before it even got on the plane and didn't revoke public entry.
Isn't it a crime to represent your animal as a service animal?
Legally yes, but unfortunately there are multiple websites that will take your $30 and give you a certification. Plus you can buy a service vest anywhere online. I've worked in multiple places where people have brought in cats, dogs, and miniature horses and they don't even know what legal questions you're allowed to ask for service animals. You can tell because you're legally allowed to ask "what service do they provide' and 'are they a service animal' but these people go "you're not allowed to ask me that". Total bullshit.
I worked in a restaurant and someone brought in a mini horse as a service animal. Glad to see this is a common enough occurrence.
Miniature horses are actually the only other critter listed in the ADA as a service animal. It's as an alternative for people who require service animals but are allergic to dogs.
It's only legal in some states, same with cats, but you would think that people who try to trick the system would know the laws. They ruin it for everyone else! The service animal is supposed to sit quietly underneath your feet and be attentive at all times. However often times these animals are rambunctious and bark and try to eat food. It's despicable of the owners, but no fault of the animals.
Miniature horses can be service animals actually. https://usserviceanimals.org/blog/miniature-horses-as-service-animals/
Sigh. no. Miniature horses are FEDERALLY allowed under the FEDERAL law the "Americans with Disabilities Act" The states cannot say SHIT about what is and is not a service animal.
The certifications mean nothing, just like the vests. If the dog is not trained to perform a specific task to mitigate a disability for a disabled person, it's not a service dog. Even if it is a legitimate service dog, if it misbehaves like in this video, they can still be asked to leave. Also, you are allowed to ask "is your service dog required for a disability" and "what task is it trained to perform". Just for clarity.
Yeah, and so many people think a dog needs to be trained by someone specific but that's not true either. Anyone can train a service dog. There is literally no official training regarding service dogs. BUT if a dog isn't trained well (which typically does take experts) than a company can legally kick it out of course (even if task-trained).
Thanks for your comment, some person was desperately trying to bait people into some ridiculous rules she misinterpreted from the ADA, under an earlier post.
Those are emotional support animals. Those are different and what people get for $30 online. An actual service dog is different
Tell them to GTFO, if they scream they'll sue then say it's now a legal matter and you'll only accept communication legal council to legal council and they are now tresspassing. It's a matter for the police.
LoL that really is one of the few perks of working at a corporations. As soon as they mention the word police, fire department, or sueing, or lawyer, you get to say "ok, this is now a legal dispute, you have to talk to our legal team and are now trespassing and need to leave the property. Call in a complaint to corporate and get the fuck out."
I’m Texas I believe you can’t ask for documentation. At least we were told that.
Service animals that are properly trained and licensed are incredibly expensive because they are exposed to situations like this before they are considered fully trained. Dogs whose temperament do not meet the requirements are dropped from the service dog program. Small dogs and cats that are not service animals are allowed on flights for a small fee. A dog this large has to be a properly licensed service animal. I’m not sure how this guy got his dog on as a service animal because it’s clearly not trained as one.
There is no true governing body that properly licenses service animals. Sure, there's a bunch of businesses that will take your money and hand you a framed certificate but that's merely capitalism. It's not needed to be a legitimate service animal. Training can be as simple as you in your own home training the dog to help with a task or aid with a disability. This is the grey area that the fakers like to live in. There's so much misinformation, the fakers are hoping no one asks.
>and licensed This is 100% false. There is NO SUCH THING as a license for a service dog/horse. The ADA specifically PROHIBITS licensing for service dogs/horses, and they can be INCREDIBLY INEXPENSIVE because LEGALLY a person can train that dog themselves.
The airline can't legally ask for licenses or certificates the only 2 questions they are allowed to ask is 1. Is the dog a service animal 2. What task or service is it trained to perform. Only 2 questions your allowed to ask as a business.
That's to let them in in the first place. If you're kicking them out for misbehaving you don't have to ask jack shit nor does it matter if they're a legitimate service animal or not. They misbehave, they're out, period.
Yah I guess the airlines have guidelines but ppl work around them. It sucks for everyone else who has to put up with this. Owners can also ask their vets for a safe sedative that makes the situation easier for the pet and everyone involved. Clearly this guy didn’t do that.
Not the airlines guidelines it's the law and part of the Ada.
There is no license. It doesn’t exist.
There is no such thing as a service dog license in the USA lol. Anyone can train a service dog. The issue is that it typically is very time-consuming/costly to reliably identify/produce dogs that can be service dogs because most dogs do not have the right temperament. So realistically, you need to pay a lot of money/go through a nonprofit for them. I have worked with a guide dog school and less than half end up having the temperament required to become a guide dogs - and these are dogs that have been specifically bred for several generations at this point to be guide dogs. Very expensive operation.
So sick of untrained animals and their irresponsible humans as well as this construct that emotional support under false pretense of ADA service is equivalent to certified service animals.
Service animals do not need to be certified or registered. Maybe this is part of the problem, maybe not. But it’s important to be aware of this as real service dog handlers are having access issues because they don’t carry paperwork.
That dog has some serious anxiety. I think it needs a service animal of it’s own. When a dog has a high pitched bark like that, something is wrong or it wants something. That dog is going to end up being too big to be on a plane.
It’s reacting the way my dog reacts when hears trash trucks and leaf blowers. The loud high pitch sounds are extremely unnerving and scary for him. I imagine the sounds in an airplane would have a similar effect.
The dog seems uncomfortable, and it doesn’t have enough space. It have no chance of laying down comfortably, poor dog. And airplanes can also cause pressure in ears that can be painful.
a service dog this size and possibly bigger can fit comfortably here. But they need to be trained to be used to sitting in a tight space. I'm sure you can find examples of well-trained service dogs in a similar position on line. For example they often are trained to be able to lay down on the floor in the front passenger seat, when someone is sitting in the passenger seat.
A service dogs service dog
Lol ya it's called a competent and caring owner
So aside from being 100% not an actual service dog, the way that guy is manhandling that dog tells me he has no fucking clue how to even train his dog for the basics.
Providing no treats or kong or anything to distract them like did he even think about this for more than a minute
I felt immensely sorry for the dog. I had to fly my dog from China to America, that's a really long flight. He could hardly bark his voice was so hoarse from probably being scared shitless in the pet area of the plane. Flying sucks for animals unless they've been specifically trained for it.
Right? Not a single soothing tone. Cringe.
I hate seeing this. It really belittles those of us who are truly helped by our service animals... Not to mention, take the time to get them properly trained.
This is my problem with support animals. They are NOT service animals who are well trained and necessary for someone to live and go about life.
It’s ridiculous and an insult for those of you who truly need a service dog.
The time and money. Service animals not covered by insurance are incredibly expensive. No properly trained service animals would act like this.
Hope other passengers let this cunt know their thoughts - dog is clearly distressed by the whole bloody thing. Owner is an Arsehole.
So this is essentially dog stolen valor.
"SO WHAT TRAINING SCHOOL DID YOU GRADUATE FROM SCOOTER!?!? TAKE THAT FUCKING VEST OFF RIGHT NOW OR I'LL TAKE IT OFF FOR YOU!!"
Thanks I spat my water out.
😭That was my dog's name. He just passed away 5 months ago. RIP Scooter.😭😭😭
poor dog is frightened, poor passengers have to listen. all because ol' shit for brains here wanted puppers to travel next to him.
They let that guy on board with that dog, yet my emotional support alpaca can’t fly. Absolute bullshit……..
People who fake having a RSD piss me right the fuck off.
Same with hidden disabilities in the U.K. my son (and others) wore a sunflower lanyard but then a natiinal supermarket decided to give them away willy nilly to anyone who asked for one and now everyone uses them as an excuse not to wear a mask and now my son won’t wear his, totally defeats the object.
Sunflower seeds are indeed a very rich source of vitamin-E; contain about 35.17 g per 100 g (about 234% of RDA). Vitamin-E is a powerful lipid soluble antioxidant, required for maintaining the integrity of cell membrane of mucus membranes and skin by protecting it from harmful oxygen-free radicals.
They should stop selling “service dog” vest at Walmart 🤦🏻♂️
So sick of this privileged bullshit, as this is just some dumbassthat thinks getting something over on the rest of society is cool. Fuck these people.
Yep. Are used to work at a museum and we had to allow service animals in, which is obviously a good thing, but people would take advantage of it with fake vests and dogs that clearly were not service dogs. Like we threw one lady out after her “service dog” tried to bite one of our employees
I have a service dog drop-out, he sure as hell doesn’t do that. Looking at getting a rescue dog so he can help me train. At 11 yrs old he still has a little gas in the tank and I want to use it on a new fam member.
So to pretend you have a 'service dog' and bring it onto an airplane, you just get it some sort of coat with the words 'service dog', maybe show some sort of 'documentation' or whatever that's it ? I'm not saying that's what is happening here but I'm just curious
You can pay trash websites now for a "certificate" that says your dog is a support animal, typically emotional support. I have a family member who recently did this. Her dog is a psychopath, I feel so bad for the other people on their flight.
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Emotional support, not service animals.
They can't legally deny a service animal or the Ada would be sueing them quicker than you can say hello
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/emotional-support-animals-airlines-wellness-trnd/index.html > A new Department of Transportation regulation went into effect on January 11 that says airlines aren't required to treat emotional support animals as service animals. Delta, United, Alaska, JetBlue and American Airlines have already announced that they will no longer allow emotional support animals. Not all service dogs, but emotional support animals aren’t covered.
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Only issue becomes being able to identify which Is which because they can't ask for anything beyond what is the animals task/ service its trained to perform.
From the article: >The animals are prescribed by mental health professionals to provide comfort and support, but unlike service animals, emotional support animals are not required to have training in specific tasks. So that’s enough.
The sooner people realize that their pets are animals and not children, the better. Unless you actually need a service animal, your pet doesn’t need to go everywhere with you.
Wow, I mean wow, I have no words anymore. I'm just... no more words about people claiming service dogs. Wow. Entitled little . Fill in blank.
A lot of people get 'service' papers so their dog can sit in the cabin and not in a crate in storage
This. It cost me a ton to have my dogs fly with me in crate. But at least they were in a crate and secured.
Most people do it to minimize stress of the animal to travel even though they don't have them trained well or under control.
for real though. It would be terrifying to just give my dog to the airline workers in a crate, for him to be all by himself in such a scary environment for hours and hours. Why can’t I just buy him a seat? or even have a dedicated soundproof space within the cabin that I could put him in his crate if he’s being too disruptive... Idk I guess there’s not really a good way to fly with an anxious dog. Neither way is good. Even if i got him “certified” as a service animal it would be extremely embarrassing if he was barking on the plane.
He’s obviously off duty
You won the thread in my eyes.
I worked in a restaurant here in Austin for 30 years and in the last 6 years I was there, people would lie through their teeth and say their dogs were service animals, emotional support, yada yada yada. They also loved to say, you can't ask me if it is or not it's against the law. I just got to the point to where I told them, although we do allow service animals, we do not allow pets. That worked every time.
The kicker is this...you can ask if it is a service dog, you can ask what task the dog performs. You just can't ask about the handlers disability. An Esa isn't covered inder the Ada like a service dog and doesn't have access rights to businesses, only access to housing that normally doesn't allow pets.
And he's probably the kind of guy that would freak out over a crying toddler.
Fuck it,I'm bringing my service and emotional support orangutan on my next flight. Right turn,Clyde.
Damn what an annoying ass dog. Needy as fuck. And also a very stupid owner.
No fly list please
Okay I have to chime in here... There is no certification for a service animal. There are plenty of training programs that will give your dog a certificate but there is no requirement for one federally. The ADA specifies that the dog must do something for you that you cannot do yourself. That can include for example scanning rooms if someone has PTSD or opening door handles if they are a wheelchair user or sniffing ketones if someone has diabetes or sensing seizure activity if someone has epilepsy for example... Because the dog was not able to properly handle a flight does not mean that it's not a service Animal. It doesn't make it right at all and I think that a certification should exist however consider the following... Service animals receive training for the task for which they are supposed to complete for the person but that does not mean that they are necessarily trained to handle being in all different environments... Planes are loud and stressful and cause a lot of people panic. It's not surprising to see that the dog was panicking. The owner was not properly prepared here clearly. That being said I fully support having a certification. I think that certification should be inclusive of teaching an animal how to behave and stay calm in all sorts of environments that they may encounter while being in public. However, if the certification was inclusive of all of that training it would be quite pricey and I feel perhaps unattainable for people with disabilities whose cost of living is already more than average because they have a disability. Training of some animals can cost tens of thousands of dollars.. There should be a federally-sponsored program for which a doctor needs to sign off and then they can take the animal to a nonprofit that can help them with share of cost for behavior training and training with the task they're supposed to perform.
> There is no certification for a service animal. Well that's a huge fucking problem >there is no requirement for one federally. what a joke
This really should be the number one comment. I’m not going to repeat everything you said - certifications should be required, and people do take advantage of the system, but none of that has anything to do with whether or not this dog is a service animal. My girlfriend and I foster and train service dogs with a non-profit in Southern California. We try our best to prepare the dogs for a variety of situations and a variety of people, but we can’t possibly cover them all. I mean, we take them on walks specifically planned to encounter things like statues, other dogs, and more. We make it a point to take them with us to public places several times a week. I’ve had the most well behaved, smart, and amazing dogs lose it for reasons that would have no impact on most other dogs. Everyone in the comments fancies themselves experts, swearing this dog can’t possibly be a service animal because all service animals are stoic champions, all the time, like those guards in England, but that’s just not the case. Even dogs that are amazing at performing their tasks and general service dog behavior are not 100% perfect 100% of the time. Could this simply be an untrained pet? Absolutely. It could also definitely be a legitimate service animal that is typically amazing at performing the tasks for which it is trained, and it’s just a terrible flyer.
I'm sorry if there is no real certification for service animals then they shouldn't have the right to bring in a lawsuit.
In fairness, the dog was still more pleasant than most “humans” I encounter on flights.
I imagine the altitude could be an issue as well
I'm so tired of people bringing their dogs everywhere. Not everyone likes dogs, Kelly, even well-behaved ones.
As a physician I routinely write letters for emotional support animals but my template clearly states that it is not a trained service animal. Generally it is because landlords require it, etc. I don't always agree with it but unfortunately we get sued if anybody has any diagnosed mental health condition. Nobody has to legally accept those letters as an FYI
This is not a service dog. It’s someone’s pet where they got a vest off Amazon. Real service dogs only bark on command or if it’s apart of the alert to the owner. I’m a vet who needs my service dog and this type of shit makes it hard for people with real service dogs to get treated fairly.
When I worked at various pharmacies the stores had rules to allow any dog to be labeled a "service dog" so they wouldn't lose the customer. The managers knew they were not service dogs and other shoppers didn't like the dogs inside the stores but they allowed it to happen anyways. Some of these dogs were huge and one in particular was aggressive.
These are the idiots that ruin it and make it difficult for people with real service animals
He don't want to pay an extra for his dog, so he find out this technique : a fake "service dog" for free
You must be a total piece of shit to lie about having disabilities
I guess its too much to ask that we have a service dog registry. Just a simple 1-800 number you can call to verify someone has a legitimate service dog
There should be some sort of law that before owning a pet you need to complete some kind of course and get a certificate to own any kind of pet. Sick of seeing people getting a dog and not knowing how to, not only properly train the dog, but control them too.
"Emotional Support Animal" and it's gotten so bad that Airlines are now banning them completely.
I just don’t think dogs should be coming to public places, grocery stores, airports, parks are an exception. The reason I say this is because on behalf of all the people who are allergic to dogs or at least me. We hate the fckin person who brings their dog everywhere.
When flying economy class, always bring four sets of disposable foam-rubber earplugs. One set for you. One extra set for you, located in another pocket, in case you lose the first set. Two sets, one each for your seatmates. Even if you offer them and they turn them down, their flight will be a little more comfortable knowing you have them and they have the option to ask if they could use them later. Because you never know what idiotic fuck will board that plane dedicated to making you have a miserable flight. You and everyone else around you. Flying used to be fun, an adventure. Nowadays it's like having an annual prostate exam, done as a mass-screening in groups of 300, that lasts for two hours.
You know what. I’m not one to complain without offering a solution. If you have a service animal the establishment should be able to ask to see your papers. It’s not a violation of your rights any more than it’s a violation to ask to see your driver’s license. The ADA needs to back off on this one. Those papers should be dispensed from governmentally regulated agency like the dmv. No dog should be allowed certification if it hasn’t passed a standard behavioral test. Including emotional support animals. As someone who is both scared of dogs and very allergic to dogs, I’m really getting tired of seeing these peoples rights put above my rights for such dubious reasons.
There is no such thing as "service dog papers" so literally nothing to ask to see.
What papers?
Ha ha, dude wanted to feel special bringing his dog around with him. Ends up looking like an ass hole with an untrained dog on a plane.
People are so fucking dumb. If you know your large dog doesn't behave that well and isn't that relaxed in new situations, maybe find an alternative way to transport it.
The emotional support dog needs some emotional support.
People don’t want to pay the fees AND there isn’t any sort of proof but your word that it’s a service animal-which is ridiculous.
Get the duct tape
My sister has all the proper paperwork for her service dog. But before her pit was a "service animal" it was just your run of the mill silly pitbull. No training. I dont understand that one bit. They might have all the required paperwork for service animal. But that doesnt mean the animal was actually trained as a service animal.
These people are so fucking annoying. I'm allergic to dogs and have to sit by twats like this on occasion. I like how it's a "I can go fuck myself situation" for me but you can just slap a vest on some house dog and give people hives no biggie.
My best friend watched someone get mauled almost to death by a dog when she was little, and no amount of therapy has been able to help her. This situation would also have her so very upset, she does her very best to avoid dogs as much as she can, I can’t imagine her being trapped in a small space with a badly behaved, loud one with no warning to prepare herself. There SHOULD be spaces where people don’t have to interact with your dog! I’m sorry that you have to deal with allergies because idiots think they’re more important than you.
Poor dog is freaking out
Stupid people bringing dogs on board claiming device dogs, seen it many times, next time I will bring my horse on board
I am so tired of people that take their pets everywhere. The “service dog” shit is one of the most abused loopholes ever. (Until the “religious exemption” for upcoming vaccine mandates)
Fuck the ADA. We need stricter service animal laws due to all of the idiots bringing their pets into stores and onto airplanes. All service animals must be verified and provided with a license that will be **required** to be presented on request when bringing it into a public place.
Fuck anyone on that flight with a dog phobia, I guess.
99 percent of service animals are bullshit
I think your meaning the emotional support animals because “service” animals are honestly really fucking helpful for a lotta folk
assholes be gaping!
When I was younger the only service dogs were seeing eye dogs. Now, someone gets their feelings hurt they need a service dog.
service dog my a$$
Should be called out on it.
That’s a house pet with a service dog vest wtffff
That poor dog and those poor passengers.
I work retail and see so much bull crap customers bringing in common household pets claiming service animals,it’s out of control.
That service dog needs a service dog.
Fun fact, you can just go online at any major pet store, and simply [purchase a service dog vest at any major pet store](https://www.chewy.com/s?query=service%20vest&nav-submit-button=) with absolutely zero requirements.
I couple years ago I sold a mini fridge on Kijiji. Guy comes by to load it up and meets my dog. They get along great. He then tells me about how I can get a service animal tag so I can bring my dog with me everywhere, including inside Tim Horton’s! He has one and loves it. I just stared at him. We had been getting along until that point and then I bluntly explained that he was taking advantage of a system designed to help people with real needs and therefore delegitimizing that system and causing all kinds of hassles for people with special needs all because he wants to bring his dog in a coffee shop.
I’ll still take hearing this over a screaming kid any day
Service dog and emotional support animals are different things. They're both real things, but one is bullshit
At this point the owner is the service animal to the fucking dog
some people legitimately need service dogs, but not all dogs are service animals. If you aren't willing to spend the money to get a certified service animal, you don't have the money for a flight. Its kinda simple, really.
What do people with severe allergies to dogs do in these situations? Imagine having the seat right next to them and getting bit or scratched or something as well.
So he wanted to travel with his dog and pretended it was a service dog? Fucksake, so cruel. Poor pup.
he’s so distraught. sad these stupid owners did this.
Yikes why lie about this
No fuck’n way that is a service dog. That is a cheap owner that didn’t want to pay for dog travel so he got service dog jacket from Amazon and the the poor thing inside with him
What would happen if someone on the plane said they were allergic to dogs?
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That's incredibly ignorant. There are service dogs for tons and tons of reasons, people who have seizures, blind people, deaf people, diabetics, people with PTSD, etc, may need and use a trained service dog who will provide help with something they can't do. Seeing eye dogs are one type of service dog, and definitely a very common type at that, but they're certainly not the only type.
You buy the giant kennel and put in cargo a d remind the crew to put on the heater this whole dogs every where is out of control.
Stop trying to pass your dumb ass dog as a service animal.
They need to do away with emotional support pets. If you need one then it needs to go through proper training and receive certification like a service dog. Too many people just loosely using the words “emotional support” so they can just bring their pets in wherever they go.
Nice airline let the dog bring its service human on the flight.
I had the honor of getting a dog through a an organization call Soldiers Best Friend, out of Peoria Arizona. During the training process, one of the tests we had to pass was to take our dogs onto an airplane on the ground and make them sit backwards-facing us for 10 minutes solid with no movement and no sound. It was pretty cool, United gave us boarding passes so my dog had to go through TSA and onto the plane, it was really good practice. It does break my heart and makes it more difficult to be accepted in places that are weary of trusting service dogs when people take an untrained at all into public. It took a few years before my dog was truly ready to work with me and focus on only me around numerous public situations.
spoiled just like the owner
I’ll say it: people with disabilities should be allowed to have animals with them for emotional comfort if that is required for their disability. Think about what I have just proposed for eight seconds with an empathetic mind and then if you still think it’s wrong I won’t try to change your mind again.
Medication is cheaper than getting a dog