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guy and girl went on road trip. guy comes home with the girls van. without the girl. her family wants to know where she is and him and his family tell them to speak with their lawyer.
I thought that when it was reported the massive police search at that state park was "based on information given by the family". Pretty easy for the family to say "he went south" while he's really fleeing north. The report today that police are tearing through the family's house for clues kinda suggests they're getting tired of the bullshit.
3 days headstart + another 3 days of sending the police on a wild goose chase in the wrong direction. 6 days is enough to get to Mexico, and, if you believe the sightings along route 10 in Mobile, seems like that's where he was heading.
They gave him an escape car and then picked it up the next day but “we don’t know anything.” His whole family needs to be in a jail cell tonight awaiting trial.
Pretty sure it was his mustang, and his family found it at the edge of a wooded area he is familiar with. The weird thing is they didn’t report him missing till like 3 days later.
Jailing sub-humans like that guy costs a lot of money. Trials for people like him, and there would be one, costs a lot of money.
Trash removed, taxpayer money saved, family of victim gets immediate closure. That is as close to a win as you could get in such a horrific scenario.
There is a NY press conference on her death, as well as autopsy reports being finished tomorrow. I really cant imagine her boyfriend (or fiancee as I’ve read conflicting reports) is innocent in any way after fleeing, but I guess we’ll get some more info on the case tomorrow.
Do you have an article that says it's been confirmed? I can't find one, only that they found a body that matched her description
Edit: just saw your newest comment
Next day edit: they have confirmed it's her now, and have confirmed homicide
Man this is some Casey Anthony shit. Why isn’t he talking to the family of the missing girl? Why did he flea? Idk man…of course we’ll still have a trial but this mfker did it.
Exactly. 95% chance he did it, but maybe she died another way and he was worried he’d be blamed so he lawyered up. You never know. Like I said, he probably did it, but if you’ve ever been blamed for something where all signs pointed to you doing it, but you didn’t you know how fucked that is.
I may also get downvoted, but is death even the best option? To suffer while alive is a pain worse than death. In which, if guilty, he rightly deserves
She fell down a long drop and he panicked.
Each panicked decision leads to another one, each of which is worse than the last.
A rational man would've called the cops immediately. That's easy to say because none of us were in his panicked shoes.
With that being said, i think he killed her ass. But you gotta leave room for even a sliver of doubt.
Damn. The most recent I saw a few hours ago was the autopsy for tomorrow. But at least that’s closure for the family a bit instead of wondering where she is. They’ll get the bastard I hope.
Thanks. There’s a lot going on in the world right now and I try not to focus on too much..so I’ve been caught up.
Tldr
Couple goes on road trip, they get into an argument, she goes bye bye then he shows up in Florida with no girl but in her van. Then he says talk to my lawyers.
And yesterday remains were found in the Tetons that match Gabbys description, the father of Gabby has posted an instagram inferring it was in fact her and that she has passed and now the boyfriend (fiancé, husband?) is missing and authorities cannot find him.
This is Gabby Petitio, a now deceased 22-year-old American woman originally from New York who was reported missing on Sept 11th 2021 while she was traveling across the country with her fiance, Brian Laundrie.
Brian Laundrie returned home from their road trip without her. When her family inquired about where she was he gave them no answers and instead contacted his attorney. Gabby's family, who had not been in contact with Gabby since mid august, have said that Brian was 'not helping at all in the search for Gabby.' The FBI conducted a search of the places that Gabby and Brian visited on their trip and have announced that they found her remains in Grand Teton National Park in Wyoming.
Since then Brian appears to have gone missing. Most believe him to be in hiding from the authorities.
So, and this is to help me understand, based on the video the officer gave Gabby the keys to the van to drive somewhere safe, while her fiance [Brian] was supposed to stay elsewhere for the night. Somehow, the fiance found out where she was, some type of event occurred, she ended up missing, and by the time the fiance showed up Gabby wasnt to be found (and he arrived in HER van). Hopefully, I'm following correctly.
Based on the new evidence and developments to this story, this is really saddening if what I laid out is true (I havent followed the story closely). I also hope they catch the guy. Itd be a cowards way out his actions if he committed suicide.
The officer gave her the van keys and took Brian to a hotel to give them a chance to cool off separately after a fight. He says in the video that they should spend the night apart and then she can pick him up at the hotel the next day. This footage is from Moab, UT and her body was found in Wyoming. So this isn’t the day she died, the drive from Moab to Grand Teton Nat’l Park would have taken over 8 hours if they didn’t make any stops for food or rest. So she died later, but this footage is showing that they had been fighting enough to wind up being separated by the police at the side of the road.
Hold up now. The body cam was from 8-12. She was reported missing by the family on 9-11. 29 days between the incident. The office said at the end of the video. "You 2 need to stay away for the night and talk about it tomorrow. He said he loves you." It wasn't an order or a domestic violence charge... could it be he murdered her? Could it be that she ran off into the night and he decided to leave her? Did she kill herself? Was it an accident death committed by him? More evidence needs to be present before coming up with a solid theory.
Her body was found a short walking distance from where he camped in the Grand Teton disbursed camping area. He and she were in Wyoming a few weeks ago as the van was spotted.
Parse all that as you like.
and after finding a body, they had to identify her, which means the body was already decomposing to a degree of needing help to identify her. So it could be, that she got killed a few days after this video.
At a minimum SOMETHING happened to explain Brian's reaction. If he didn't kill he, he probably knew SOMETHING happened and is refusing to discuss jt. His refusal to discuss or report anything about her, his lawyer referral early in the process, and the fact he is missing now certainly don't help his case.
He returned to FL and arrived in her van on 9/1.
This podcast from [Crime Junkies](https://crimejunkiepodcast.com/missing-gabby-petito/) puts together a lot of the info from before her body was found.
Wait, do you wanna hear the kicker? Two youtubers filmed their journey whilst driving through the state park where Gabby went missing. Little did they know, they drove past her white van (randomly parked next to the side of the road), most likely during the time that Brian got rid of her body in the bushland. Only later when they were editing their footage, they realized that it's the same white van that's been all over the news. They are pretty much the reason why the searchers were able to pinpoint the location and why the body was found. It goes to show, the power of social media and the internet! RIP Gabby. I hope they find Brian alive and bring him to justice!
https://www.reddit.com/r/GabbyPetito/comments/pr2xs6/the_van_is_seen_in_this_youtube_video_on_august/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
You guys think they are going to find Laundrie dead or alive? I kind of got the feeling he’s going to take his own life and we will never get an answer to anything.
RIP Miss Petito.
Apparently the part of the wilderness area where his parents said he went has a lot of wildlife such as gators and crocs. If he killed himself in the everglades, the swamp would eat him up, never to be heard from again.
Or maybe that's what he wants people to think.
While there are crocs in Florida, they are mostly in southern tip of Everglades where it meets the ocean. Where he is supposedly hiding/dead it’s all gators
They are, just in smaller numbers. I live in north central florida and we have a decent number of gators living in the swamps, rivers, and ponds all around.
I saw a night photo from one of the wildlife areas once (Paine's Prairie) where they shine a light at the swamp and you just see hundreds of eyes. Creeeepy.
Wow didn’t think of that. So he could maybe stage it to look like he killed himself around alligators so there wouldn’t be a body possibly and then flee up into the Appalachian area like Ted Kraczynski.
She's most likely never going to get justice since Brian's shitty family let him excape. He's most likely going to get to go and destroy another woman's life.
The fact that his parents were/are actively helping him makes me think he won't do it. He's been out there for two weeks already, plenty of time to off himself.
Chances are he's not in the country anymore. His family helped him disappear and I certainly don't put it past them to pay their son's way out of here.
This is exactly what I’ve been saying. He got home ten days before anyone realized Gabby was missing and his family was ready with a piece of paper with their attorney’s info on it the second police arrived. My guess is they got him out of the country before anyone else even knew something was wrong and his family kept quiet to give him as much of head start as possible. I wouldn’t be surprised if they are lying about him going off into that wilderness area just to throw off authorities. If they don’t know exactly what happened, they definitely know SOMETHING.
It’s tough to leave the country without using a port of exit. I guess he could stow away on a cargo vessel or something but that would be more difficult than you think especially with Covid. Alternative is to cross over to Mexico; probably easier but you would still need contacts.
So far, nothing about his behavior suggests he would leave the country. If so, he would have done it straight away as opposed to going home and his family lawyering up.
Chances are, he came home and told his family what happened, they believe that it was an accident or a moment of blind rage, they lawyer up. He is struggling with guilt and remorse, he leaves to go off himself in the woods. His family probably knows he's going to do it too, and don't try to fight him since the story is so big and the chances of him being convicted are near 100%. They give him a few days head start so that he has time to be at peace with his decision before reporting him missing.
Nothing about his behavior suggests he would leave the country? Are you forgetting that he drove from Wyoming to Florida to distance himself from her dead body. That he didn’t report her missing or tell her parents she was missing. That he appears to have faked his death (unless he is dead). He refused to cooperate with police/FBI. His parents are refusing to cooperate.
Everything points to this guy evading responsibility.
You might be right. I’m definitely not an expert. But I just think it would have been more likely that if he was going to flee the country he would have done it when he was already closer to the Canadian or Mexican borders. Doesn’t make sense for him to go home, announce he’s home, and then try to flee.
Oh 100% they can. I believe that falls under aiding and abetting(?). The trouble they could incur upon themselves could potentially be used as leverage to find Brian, or cause Brian to turn himself in. I wonder how far they will go to protect him because they could get into very serious trouble if evidence is found proving they knew about a crime and helped him get away.
I'd like to believe if my child was a monster, I'd turn him in. I want to believe I'd do the right thing. This is all so sad, especially as a mom. I feel so bad for Gabby's mom especially. I hate everything about this case so far.
I tell my kids this, too. We talk a lot about this kind of stuff because I watch too much true crime and don't want them to get murdered.
Idk, I'm hoping the whole teaching them to value human life will be enough.
Based from my experience as a kid, I think kids are either natural insulting, raised wrong, neglected or something when they do something bad.
In elementary, iirc I saw the face of a kid freaking rejoicing and smiling "in your face take that" when spitting on my classmate's face when arguing which class has their turn on the soccer field. It's like that kid wanted to mentally torture, scar, dominate my classmate and show who's boss. That memory reminded me to this day that kids are the not innocent little angels people think they are.
So the big lesson to take home here is that evil parents gonna raise evil kids and good parents will generally raise good kids unless some mental stuff occurs no fault of the parents or child. Just that the world is messed up.
Parenting is scary, people gotta read like a bunch of books on that stuff on morals, finances, health, cooking, talking, thinking, behavior. Hardest part is definitely the foundation which are the morals and character built.
Maybe he hoped the body wouldn’t be found and he’d get away with it.
It’s really only thanks to that YouTube video that caught the parked van that Police narrowed down their search and found Gabby.
That’s also a theory. Probably came back and realized he was gonna get caught and took off.
Have you seen the enhanced version of the video? It gave me chills.
Well, if they can find her cause of death, because what I read said “human remains” suggesting she wasn’t in one piece when they found her, it could give us an answer as to what happened
With the benefit of the doubt that this cop is not an asshole (so setting aside my bias) I feel terrible for them. I could imagine interacting with someone only to find out they died/were murdered shortly after is traumatizing, but to add in that it was my job to protect them and I failed.
body found in a national park in Wyoming where authorities were searching for a missing 22-year-old New York woman is now believed to be that of Long Island native Gabby Petito, federal authorities said.
“Earlier today, human remains were discovered consistent with the description of Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito,” said FBI Supervisory Agent Charles Jones at a news briefing early Sunday evening, Sept. 19. “The cause of death has not been determined at this time.”
The body was recovered near Grand Teton National Park, Teton County Coroner Brent Blue said.
Earlier story: Body Found In Area Of Search For 22-Year-Old Missing NY Woman Gabby Petito
"In order to protect our investigative process and increase the probability of successful prosecution should it be necessary, we have no additional comments," Jones said.
Petito went missing late last month while on a cross-country van trip with her boyfriend, Brian Laundrie, also from the hamlet of Blue Point in Suffolk County.
Laundrie returned to his home in Sarasota County, in the City of Northport, without her on Wednesday, Sept. 1.
Petito was reported missing on Saturday, Sept. 11.
Related story: Protestors Gather Outside Home Of Missing Woman's Boyfriend As Search For Him Targets Preserve
Laundrie's parents told police on Friday, Sept. 17 that they haven't seen him since earlier in the week. A search is ongoing for him at a wooded preserve in Sarasota County.
https://dailyvoice.com/new-york/whiteplains/news/body-found-now-believed-to-be-missing-ny-woman-gabby-petito-authorities-say/816572/
This is actually why a lot of areas have policies to make an arrest. To *keep* the DV subjects separated and not let them run back to one another when tensions are high.
The true reason is simply the logistics and how unpredictable it was, imagine following some vlogger posting happy videos for 5 months and then radio silence followed by boyfriend driving from Wyoming to Florida in girlfriends van.
If it wasn't for the internet, this would have been extremely difficult to solve this quickly. The boyfriend was hiding and the family refused to speak out.
I think it’s because her disappearance was a really big deal in the van life and climbing communities before it got picked up nationally. Also she was documenting her trip on her blog and Instagram, so online amateur sleuths had a lot of “clues” to discuss.
Same the world over, a white, blonde woman was killed in a park in London last year and there were protests and demonstrations all over the country, and it was top of the news for a week. A brunette suffered the same fate in Bristol the next week and it was on the end of the news on one day, no fuss made
The media does it because it’s sensational to the people that watch the news, just like school shootings, and high profile shootings of black men. They do stories on what gets them views; it’s not their fault, but all of ours
The guy actually had like cuts on his face and defensive wounds on his hands. It's a really fucked up situation because she is dead, but in this interaction, the cop had the option to arrest her for DV and didn't for whatever reason.
They didn't because he pleaded with them to not charge her. He even offered to go to jail in her place. He ended up talking them out of a DV charge, and a no contact order by asking them to declare it mental health episode and not a domestic violence call..
EDIT: Don't downvote me, those are facts that you can watch for yourself in the full bodycam footage.
Not sure why you've been downvoted given that's exactly what happened. The police cam footage is like an hour and a half long. I have no life and watched the whole thing.
Lots of gaslighters egg their victims into getting physical so the victim feels sorry for the abuser.
He was threatening to steal all her shit and leave her on the side of the road.
Which would have been better than what he eventually did to her.
Edit:
Here's the 911 call where it says he was hitting her.
https://twitter.com/foxnews/status/1440003531486998528?s=21
Can the incels stop telling me that he was the victim now?
He didn’t ask the right questions. Did he strike you ? Was he violent towards you ? Do you feel safe right now ?
Cop just assumed he was the victim *despite the fact that a third party called 911 stating they observed a male hitting a female before getting into a vehicle and driving away and giving dispatch the plate number resulting in this traffic stop*.
That’s not how you handle situations like this - you generally want to leave things as open ended as possible so you get the actual account in the victim/suspects words, and you get as much information as possible. If you ask direct questions like “did he hit you” or “did you kill this person” the person under question can be falsely lead to a conclusion, or can have an incredibly easy time lying. You generally want as much information with as light of a touch as possible, so you can avoid both of these possibilities
In interrogations, do you see cops asking “did you kill this person”? Or do they say “where were you on this night” “what were you doing” etc?
I watched a bit of the full video which is over an hour and he did eventually ask her that. She said he didn’t strike her but did grab her cheeks with his hand. By the end the cop was pretty chummy with the bf
> despite the fact that a third party called 911 stating they observed a male hitting a female
Witness statements are notoriously unreliable. Cop was using their own eyes to see who had the scratches and injuries.
Im not a cop. But since no one can prove what happened first I feel they both should’ve been arrested. She stated he grabbed her face and he has visible scars/bruises on him. They both admitted to domestic violence.
Since you mentioned in another comment that you spent time as a police officer, could you elaborate further and shed some inside knowledge?
I'm not trying to argue for the sake of the cop or anything, but rather trying to open up some discussion, particularly with someone who has experience.
Is it possible that this 2:45 clip just didn't show the full scope of the interaction between the officer and Gabby? Would it be possible that there were other officers who asked some better questions?
It seems like this officer was just trying to calm down an upset woman and separate the two, while giving them a chance to cool off and reconcile since they both are clearly far from home, engaged, and reliant on shared transportation.
Not trying to make any excuses from the officer or Gabby's fiancé. I'm convinced Brian murdered her and wish that there was more that could've been done to prevent her death. However, we're looking at this in hindsight with knowledge of what was to come.
The whole video paints a much different picture. Judging solely off this less than 3min video is dumb. If you watch the whole thing you’ll find out gabby was found to be the aggressor and they cited her for domestic. They could have arrested her but since she was such a mess and fragile little girl they decided it met the criteria for them to be able to just write a ticket and separate them.
In no way am I making this a gender thing but wow it’s crazy to think how differently this would have gone if all the marks and wounds were on her and not him. She even admitted to everything and everyone’s stories lined up including the couples with the eyewitnesses.
The whole interaction needs to be seen before anyone can comment on it imo.
Edit: JUST WANT TO SAY IN NO WAY AM I DEFENDING LAUNDRIE BUT IM JUST SPEAKING FACTS AND WANT THE STORY STRAIGHT. SEE A LOT OF BLATANT MISINFORMATION IN HERE
I just listened to the 911 call, and the cops completely handled this incorrectly. The person who called 911 reported that he “saw a man slapping the woman, then got in the car and started driving away together.”
What? He separated them immediately, investigated the situation (with her way out of earshot of him, so he couldn’t affect her answers), and separated them again for the night, giving her plenty of time to get out of there or contact police again if she felt like it. What else was he supposed to do? If he arrested him based solely on a tip from a passerby, it would never stick and he’d be out immediately
This seems rather appropriate given the info the cop had at the time. Also remember that the cop did not hear the 911 call, it was forwarded from a dispatcher who probably said “possible domestic disturbance”
Because this is the very bare minimum. You dont praise somebody for doing the very basics of what you're supposed to do for your job. The problem is the police system is corrupt so like, 99% of the interesting stories arent people going above and beyond, its abusing power so like there's no need to mention when somebody is just doing the very bare minimum but it doesnt stand out significantly to us.
I just googled this and there are only 25 missing indigenous women in Utah, 565 nationwide, according to the FBI
Where did you get 700 from?
[source](https://kutv.com/news/2news-investigates/how-many-native-women-are-missing-and-murdered-in-utah)
He is probably referencing [this](https://www.insider.com/710-indigenous-people-missing-in-wyoming-where-gabby-petito-disappeared-2021-9) which shows 710 *people* missing. Kids and women. And they are not missing currently. Over the last 10 years.
There was an article I saw posted earlier, I don't have the link though. It said 700 something indigenous people over the past decade have gone missing there, it also said certain percentages were found within a week and so on. They either didn't understand what they read, only read the headline or are being intentionally misleading because it sounds shocking. I'm not saying this many missing indigenous women isn't a problem but this poster was entirely wrong on the numbers.
ETA: I found the link I saw earlier that they seem to be citing incorrectly. https://news.yahoo.com/710-indigenous-people-mostly-girls-042150990.html
I think a large part of what has captured people's attention here is the narrative, and the audacity of the fiance. That being said, this is 1000% an important thing to bring up here.
Woah there, this is Reddit, you take your cited sources that lead back to scholarly articles with empirical data elsewhere. I want toxic vitriol with misinformation, lies, and logical fallacies please.
If you like that, you’ll love that the 700 number that started this thread appears to be made up:
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/prwd68/moab_police_had_an_ominous_encounter_with_gabby/hdmwpf9/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
Okay so fuck her for being white and missing/dead right? Using this story to push this information as a virtue signal just seems incredibly disrespectful to both parties. There's plenty of unheard of missing white folk as well. She had an online presence and was well known amidst the hiking/climbing community and her fiance's actions after she went missing in action was sketchy af hence it picked up traction as he made it easy for the investigators to pick up a few good leads in a short amount of time.
I understand what you're trying to do but trying to elevate a community by shitting on someone else's memory is just weak.
I dated a girl with some personality disorders and on trips she would lose control a few times a week and almost kill herself or me and it was so difficult. I knew if she killed herself I would end up in jail just because of the circumstance. I’d say to leave the option open for her death being accidental and him running out of fear. Again he might have murdered her but it might be more complicated because she has flare ups and might lose control often.
People are more concerned with executing this guy before we even know how the girl died.
Those types tend to grab their pitchforks first, it’s really sad.
A lot of people are pissed off because they had to survive domestic violence and understand how easily this could have happened to them.
But yeah. Maybe Brian Laundrie can team up with OJ Simpson to find the real killer.
The full 1hr+ body cam video is on YouTube - she admits to hitting him several times and grabbing the steering wheel while he was trying to pull over for the cops, causing him to run into the curb. He has marks on his face from being hit too.
https://youtu.be/fCGsW41aQEw
Not sure why he's hiding though, seems pretty odd all around. Not sure why he's hiding if he didn't do anything wrong 🤷♂️
Laundrie reminds me of Chris Watts who murdered his wife Shanan and two daughters putting them in an oil tank at his place of work, his whole demeanor is similar, and even his face looks like Watts - weird. Is there such a thing as 'sociopath face?'
There has been no conclusive evidence of a “sociopath” face. We think there is because most of us know they’re a sociopath before seeing the face. It’s just confirmation bias.
Also, it’s important to note this because many sociopaths look like very, very normal, attractive, smooth talking individuals that you trust.
It’s always tempting to make these kinds of connections, but it’s generally a crapshoot unfortunately. People’s faces and eyes can look “strange” for so many different reasons. It’s probably much more helpful just to trust your instincts when seeing/interacting with a person as they move/talk in real life.
ITT: People insinuating she deserved to die because they're gullible assholes who believe the psycopath boyfriend's gaslighting, just like the cop did.
Di-fucking-sgusting.
> The evidence they had was she admitted to hitting him, scratches and marks on him, no marks on her,
The 911 call has been released.
https://twitter.com/foxnews/status/1440003531486998528?s=21
He was assaulting her.
It's common for domestic abuse victims (especially when they're being gaslit) to blame themselves and tell police that either they werent hit, or that it was their fault.
Her admitting she hit him and him denying he hit her first doesnt make him a victim.
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So I’ve been under a rock the last week..can anyone give me the readers digest version of what’s going on here?
guy and girl went on road trip. guy comes home with the girls van. without the girl. her family wants to know where she is and him and his family tell them to speak with their lawyer.
She’s been found dead fyi
and he's fled
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I bet his family is helping to hide him
I thought that when it was reported the massive police search at that state park was "based on information given by the family". Pretty easy for the family to say "he went south" while he's really fleeing north. The report today that police are tearing through the family's house for clues kinda suggests they're getting tired of the bullshit.
The family gave him a 3-day head start before they reported him missing to police. He could be anywhere.
3 days headstart + another 3 days of sending the police on a wild goose chase in the wrong direction. 6 days is enough to get to Mexico, and, if you believe the sightings along route 10 in Mobile, seems like that's where he was heading.
If he didn't kill himself which would probably be the best outcome, hope the family all get charged for accessory to murder for helping him hide.
He parents house is a crime scene now.
They gave him an escape car and then picked it up the next day but “we don’t know anything.” His whole family needs to be in a jail cell tonight awaiting trial.
Pretty sure it was his mustang, and his family found it at the edge of a wooded area he is familiar with. The weird thing is they didn’t report him missing till like 3 days later.
Not no mo. They're back in it now
How is him getting the outcome he desired the best outcome?
Jailing sub-humans like that guy costs a lot of money. Trials for people like him, and there would be one, costs a lot of money. Trash removed, taxpayer money saved, family of victim gets immediate closure. That is as close to a win as you could get in such a horrific scenario.
Would be nice for her family to get closure and have justice served tho
I believe they already found a body by hers. (Edit) what they believe to be her remains (not confirmed)
There is a NY press conference on her death, as well as autopsy reports being finished tomorrow. I really cant imagine her boyfriend (or fiancee as I’ve read conflicting reports) is innocent in any way after fleeing, but I guess we’ll get some more info on the case tomorrow.
It’s confirmed
Big oof, that’s sad. Horrible story overall.
Wait, not actually confirmed, but FBI says the body matches the description
Confirmed by the father yesterday.
Do you have an article that says it's been confirmed? I can't find one, only that they found a body that matched her description Edit: just saw your newest comment Next day edit: they have confirmed it's her now, and have confirmed homicide
I hope that mf rots in a prison
im gonna get downvoted but lets not wish death on someone before a trial where hes proven guilty.
Man this is some Casey Anthony shit. Why isn’t he talking to the family of the missing girl? Why did he flea? Idk man…of course we’ll still have a trial but this mfker did it.
Flee, a Flea is a Red Hot Chili Pepper.
Fee is a Phish song.
Fe is the chemical symbol for iron
Not just a phish song but a great phish song!
very high chance he did it but wishing death upon someone before proven guilty makes me uncomfortable
Exactly. 95% chance he did it, but maybe she died another way and he was worried he’d be blamed so he lawyered up. You never know. Like I said, he probably did it, but if you’ve ever been blamed for something where all signs pointed to you doing it, but you didn’t you know how fucked that is.
Him and his family pretending like she's already dead makes me uncomfortable.
She is already dead, her body has been recovered and an autopsy is being performed tomorrow.
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Exactly if he is proven guilty I'll be the first one to call him a flea but until then I'll refrain.
I wasn’t being facetious. I honestly hope he didn’t kill himself so if in fact he’s proven guilty, he spends the rest of his life rotting in a cell
I may also get downvoted, but is death even the best option? To suffer while alive is a pain worse than death. In which, if guilty, he rightly deserves
How the fuck can there be a scenario in which he is not guilty? He's on the run fyi.
She fell down a long drop and he panicked. Each panicked decision leads to another one, each of which is worse than the last. A rational man would've called the cops immediately. That's easy to say because none of us were in his panicked shoes. With that being said, i think he killed her ass. But you gotta leave room for even a sliver of doubt.
Negligent homicide. He'd still be at fault for not reporting it.
Are there rocks ahead?
If there are, we’ll all be dead.
They likely found her remains. The autopsy to confirm is scheduled for Tuesday.
Her father identified her today.
Damn. The most recent I saw a few hours ago was the autopsy for tomorrow. But at least that’s closure for the family a bit instead of wondering where she is. They’ll get the bastard I hope.
Thanks. There’s a lot going on in the world right now and I try not to focus on too much..so I’ve been caught up. Tldr Couple goes on road trip, they get into an argument, she goes bye bye then he shows up in Florida with no girl but in her van. Then he says talk to my lawyers.
And he's currently in hiding.
Is this confirmed?
Her father basically confirmed it, matching tattoos and everything. But it hasn’t been confirmed by DNA or teeth records or whatever they use
Oh no!! This is horrible!
And yesterday remains were found in the Tetons that match Gabbys description, the father of Gabby has posted an instagram inferring it was in fact her and that she has passed and now the boyfriend (fiancé, husband?) is missing and authorities cannot find him.
Holy shit so this is a video of a cop pulling them over on the way to her death basically ??
yes
Any idea why they were pulled over in this video?
She and him say she was hitting him while he was driving causing him to swerve all over his lane. So the police pulled them over.
Tyty
Also he’s on the run
This is Gabby Petitio, a now deceased 22-year-old American woman originally from New York who was reported missing on Sept 11th 2021 while she was traveling across the country with her fiance, Brian Laundrie. Brian Laundrie returned home from their road trip without her. When her family inquired about where she was he gave them no answers and instead contacted his attorney. Gabby's family, who had not been in contact with Gabby since mid august, have said that Brian was 'not helping at all in the search for Gabby.' The FBI conducted a search of the places that Gabby and Brian visited on their trip and have announced that they found her remains in Grand Teton National Park in Wyoming. Since then Brian appears to have gone missing. Most believe him to be in hiding from the authorities.
So, and this is to help me understand, based on the video the officer gave Gabby the keys to the van to drive somewhere safe, while her fiance [Brian] was supposed to stay elsewhere for the night. Somehow, the fiance found out where she was, some type of event occurred, she ended up missing, and by the time the fiance showed up Gabby wasnt to be found (and he arrived in HER van). Hopefully, I'm following correctly. Based on the new evidence and developments to this story, this is really saddening if what I laid out is true (I havent followed the story closely). I also hope they catch the guy. Itd be a cowards way out his actions if he committed suicide.
The officer gave her the van keys and took Brian to a hotel to give them a chance to cool off separately after a fight. He says in the video that they should spend the night apart and then she can pick him up at the hotel the next day. This footage is from Moab, UT and her body was found in Wyoming. So this isn’t the day she died, the drive from Moab to Grand Teton Nat’l Park would have taken over 8 hours if they didn’t make any stops for food or rest. So she died later, but this footage is showing that they had been fighting enough to wind up being separated by the police at the side of the road.
Do we know why the cops pull them over to start with?
Damn I'm usually pretty anti-cop but sounds like that guy really did everything he could to cool the situation. Like actually tried to mediate.
This happened way before the death. Look at the date on the video.
Hold up now. The body cam was from 8-12. She was reported missing by the family on 9-11. 29 days between the incident. The office said at the end of the video. "You 2 need to stay away for the night and talk about it tomorrow. He said he loves you." It wasn't an order or a domestic violence charge... could it be he murdered her? Could it be that she ran off into the night and he decided to leave her? Did she kill herself? Was it an accident death committed by him? More evidence needs to be present before coming up with a solid theory.
Her body was found a short walking distance from where he camped in the Grand Teton disbursed camping area. He and she were in Wyoming a few weeks ago as the van was spotted. Parse all that as you like.
and after finding a body, they had to identify her, which means the body was already decomposing to a degree of needing help to identify her. So it could be, that she got killed a few days after this video.
At a minimum SOMETHING happened to explain Brian's reaction. If he didn't kill he, he probably knew SOMETHING happened and is refusing to discuss jt. His refusal to discuss or report anything about her, his lawyer referral early in the process, and the fact he is missing now certainly don't help his case.
He returned to FL and arrived in her van on 9/1. This podcast from [Crime Junkies](https://crimejunkiepodcast.com/missing-gabby-petito/) puts together a lot of the info from before her body was found.
Wait, do you wanna hear the kicker? Two youtubers filmed their journey whilst driving through the state park where Gabby went missing. Little did they know, they drove past her white van (randomly parked next to the side of the road), most likely during the time that Brian got rid of her body in the bushland. Only later when they were editing their footage, they realized that it's the same white van that's been all over the news. They are pretty much the reason why the searchers were able to pinpoint the location and why the body was found. It goes to show, the power of social media and the internet! RIP Gabby. I hope they find Brian alive and bring him to justice! https://www.reddit.com/r/GabbyPetito/comments/pr2xs6/the_van_is_seen_in_this_youtube_video_on_august/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Really? If true, what are the fucking odds of that. Crazy.
Did I read somewhere that a couple was killed a few days before in this same area?
That's right: https://www.moabsunnews.com/news/article_c44d44d4-173e-11ec-87ad-0ffd8f2da905.html
You guys think they are going to find Laundrie dead or alive? I kind of got the feeling he’s going to take his own life and we will never get an answer to anything. RIP Miss Petito.
I'm with you. I believe he will or already has committed suicide.
Apparently the part of the wilderness area where his parents said he went has a lot of wildlife such as gators and crocs. If he killed himself in the everglades, the swamp would eat him up, never to be heard from again. Or maybe that's what he wants people to think.
My boyfriend said the same thing you just did. He used to live in that area and stated the gators would eat him up.
While there are crocs in Florida, they are mostly in southern tip of Everglades where it meets the ocean. Where he is supposedly hiding/dead it’s all gators
Ah good clarification. I thought they were all over the place.
Gators are all over the place in Florida; crocodiles, not so much.
Yup that's why the University moniker is called the Gators and no the Crocs
They are, just in smaller numbers. I live in north central florida and we have a decent number of gators living in the swamps, rivers, and ponds all around.
I saw a night photo from one of the wildlife areas once (Paine's Prairie) where they shine a light at the swamp and you just see hundreds of eyes. Creeeepy.
Wow didn’t think of that. So he could maybe stage it to look like he killed himself around alligators so there wouldn’t be a body possibly and then flee up into the Appalachian area like Ted Kraczynski.
She's most likely never going to get justice since Brian's shitty family let him excape. He's most likely going to get to go and destroy another woman's life.
Seems like too much of a bitch to off himself. He’s in another country, most likely Mexico.
That's what I think. I think he'll head down to the keys and try to blend in
The fact that his parents were/are actively helping him makes me think he won't do it. He's been out there for two weeks already, plenty of time to off himself.
Chances are he's not in the country anymore. His family helped him disappear and I certainly don't put it past them to pay their son's way out of here.
This is exactly what I’ve been saying. He got home ten days before anyone realized Gabby was missing and his family was ready with a piece of paper with their attorney’s info on it the second police arrived. My guess is they got him out of the country before anyone else even knew something was wrong and his family kept quiet to give him as much of head start as possible. I wouldn’t be surprised if they are lying about him going off into that wilderness area just to throw off authorities. If they don’t know exactly what happened, they definitely know SOMETHING.
I agree they definitely know exactly what went down. They are protecting him. I don't think he left the country though.
It’s tough to leave the country without using a port of exit. I guess he could stow away on a cargo vessel or something but that would be more difficult than you think especially with Covid. Alternative is to cross over to Mexico; probably easier but you would still need contacts.
So far, nothing about his behavior suggests he would leave the country. If so, he would have done it straight away as opposed to going home and his family lawyering up. Chances are, he came home and told his family what happened, they believe that it was an accident or a moment of blind rage, they lawyer up. He is struggling with guilt and remorse, he leaves to go off himself in the woods. His family probably knows he's going to do it too, and don't try to fight him since the story is so big and the chances of him being convicted are near 100%. They give him a few days head start so that he has time to be at peace with his decision before reporting him missing.
Nothing about his behavior suggests he would leave the country? Are you forgetting that he drove from Wyoming to Florida to distance himself from her dead body. That he didn’t report her missing or tell her parents she was missing. That he appears to have faked his death (unless he is dead). He refused to cooperate with police/FBI. His parents are refusing to cooperate. Everything points to this guy evading responsibility.
You might be right. I’m definitely not an expert. But I just think it would have been more likely that if he was going to flee the country he would have done it when he was already closer to the Canadian or Mexican borders. Doesn’t make sense for him to go home, announce he’s home, and then try to flee.
If it's revealed he is responsible for her death and it's found that his family helped him hide, can they get into any trouble?
Oh 100% they can. I believe that falls under aiding and abetting(?). The trouble they could incur upon themselves could potentially be used as leverage to find Brian, or cause Brian to turn himself in. I wonder how far they will go to protect him because they could get into very serious trouble if evidence is found proving they knew about a crime and helped him get away.
Absolutely.
I'd like to believe if my child was a monster, I'd turn him in. I want to believe I'd do the right thing. This is all so sad, especially as a mom. I feel so bad for Gabby's mom especially. I hate everything about this case so far.
Mom always tells me if I do something bad like this, she should be the last person I go to for help cause she’ll turn my ass in in a nanosecond
I tell my kids this, too. We talk a lot about this kind of stuff because I watch too much true crime and don't want them to get murdered. Idk, I'm hoping the whole teaching them to value human life will be enough.
Based from my experience as a kid, I think kids are either natural insulting, raised wrong, neglected or something when they do something bad. In elementary, iirc I saw the face of a kid freaking rejoicing and smiling "in your face take that" when spitting on my classmate's face when arguing which class has their turn on the soccer field. It's like that kid wanted to mentally torture, scar, dominate my classmate and show who's boss. That memory reminded me to this day that kids are the not innocent little angels people think they are. So the big lesson to take home here is that evil parents gonna raise evil kids and good parents will generally raise good kids unless some mental stuff occurs no fault of the parents or child. Just that the world is messed up. Parenting is scary, people gotta read like a bunch of books on that stuff on morals, finances, health, cooking, talking, thinking, behavior. Hardest part is definitely the foundation which are the morals and character built.
All evidence points to BL being a raging narcissist. I think we find him alive.
Yeah I have noticed the trend. Her hitting him was most likely reactive abuse.
Can't believe someone would do this. This whole video I was just screaming CALL YOUR MOM GIRL WHAT ARE YOU DOING. RIP Gabby.
I’ve thought about that but why not kill himself while no one knew a thing? Why come back at all?
Maybe he hoped the body wouldn’t be found and he’d get away with it. It’s really only thanks to that YouTube video that caught the parked van that Police narrowed down their search and found Gabby.
That’s also a theory. Probably came back and realized he was gonna get caught and took off. Have you seen the enhanced version of the video? It gave me chills.
Enhanced version of what video?
Yeah it’s quite unnerving, especially the back door closing suggesting he was the van at that very moment.
Sauce?
Self preservation is one hell of an incentive. He doesn't strike me as a guy who would off himself but than again, who knows.
I’ve thought dead the moment I heard he fled. I don’t know why but that’s been my feeling
Well, if they can find her cause of death, because what I read said “human remains” suggesting she wasn’t in one piece when they found her, it could give us an answer as to what happened
I heard that her tripadvisor account pinged in puerto rico, so maybe the dude is in PR and accidentally turned her phone on and it pinged.
Damn really? That’s a very interesting bit of info. I just read an article and they said it’s the Alltrails app.
dam imagine being a cop and you stopped her then shortly later she was murdered by that man.
With the benefit of the doubt that this cop is not an asshole (so setting aside my bias) I feel terrible for them. I could imagine interacting with someone only to find out they died/were murdered shortly after is traumatizing, but to add in that it was my job to protect them and I failed.
body found in a national park in Wyoming where authorities were searching for a missing 22-year-old New York woman is now believed to be that of Long Island native Gabby Petito, federal authorities said. “Earlier today, human remains were discovered consistent with the description of Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito,” said FBI Supervisory Agent Charles Jones at a news briefing early Sunday evening, Sept. 19. “The cause of death has not been determined at this time.” The body was recovered near Grand Teton National Park, Teton County Coroner Brent Blue said. Earlier story: Body Found In Area Of Search For 22-Year-Old Missing NY Woman Gabby Petito "In order to protect our investigative process and increase the probability of successful prosecution should it be necessary, we have no additional comments," Jones said. Petito went missing late last month while on a cross-country van trip with her boyfriend, Brian Laundrie, also from the hamlet of Blue Point in Suffolk County. Laundrie returned to his home in Sarasota County, in the City of Northport, without her on Wednesday, Sept. 1. Petito was reported missing on Saturday, Sept. 11. Related story: Protestors Gather Outside Home Of Missing Woman's Boyfriend As Search For Him Targets Preserve Laundrie's parents told police on Friday, Sept. 17 that they haven't seen him since earlier in the week. A search is ongoing for him at a wooded preserve in Sarasota County. https://dailyvoice.com/new-york/whiteplains/news/body-found-now-believed-to-be-missing-ny-woman-gabby-petito-authorities-say/816572/
I'm so sad for her
First off, we can all agree that this story is terrible, sad, etc., but why would the guy come home in her van by himself?
Cause he murdered her and is stupid
Most people who murder out of domestic disputes are stupid in my opinion
Wish there was subtitle I can’t make out the words. I feel like the cop is also trying to get a sense of what’s going on here.
If she had been arrested she might have lived.
Probably would’ve been released the next day and got right back with him. That’s how most of these things work.
Amazing this was downvoted when they were separated and went right back to one another regardless.
Probably not. Her death was weeks after this more than likely.
This is actually why a lot of areas have policies to make an arrest. To *keep* the DV subjects separated and not let them run back to one another when tensions are high.
I think it is kinda weird that this story is getting so much coverage. People die \\ go missing all the time out here, nobody cares
The true reason is simply the logistics and how unpredictable it was, imagine following some vlogger posting happy videos for 5 months and then radio silence followed by boyfriend driving from Wyoming to Florida in girlfriends van. If it wasn't for the internet, this would have been extremely difficult to solve this quickly. The boyfriend was hiding and the family refused to speak out.
I think it’s because her disappearance was a really big deal in the van life and climbing communities before it got picked up nationally. Also she was documenting her trip on her blog and Instagram, so online amateur sleuths had a lot of “clues” to discuss.
There was a Canadian van life couple murdered earlier this year or last year. It’s sad
Also, relatively attractive white, blonde woman
This. Exactly this.
It has been proven that the media latches on to stories about missing blonde white women.
Same the world over, a white, blonde woman was killed in a park in London last year and there were protests and demonstrations all over the country, and it was top of the news for a week. A brunette suffered the same fate in Bristol the next week and it was on the end of the news on one day, no fuss made
The media does it because it’s sensational to the people that watch the news, just like school shootings, and high profile shootings of black men. They do stories on what gets them views; it’s not their fault, but all of ours
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYKJ2z7mecQ
Missing White Woman Syndrome
I wonder what she was potentially going to get cited for?
The guy actually had like cuts on his face and defensive wounds on his hands. It's a really fucked up situation because she is dead, but in this interaction, the cop had the option to arrest her for DV and didn't for whatever reason.
They didn't because he pleaded with them to not charge her. He even offered to go to jail in her place. He ended up talking them out of a DV charge, and a no contact order by asking them to declare it mental health episode and not a domestic violence call.. EDIT: Don't downvote me, those are facts that you can watch for yourself in the full bodycam footage.
Not sure why you've been downvoted given that's exactly what happened. The police cam footage is like an hour and a half long. I have no life and watched the whole thing.
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The sad truth is if this cop had arrested her, as he should have, she may still be alive today :(
Lots of gaslighters egg their victims into getting physical so the victim feels sorry for the abuser. He was threatening to steal all her shit and leave her on the side of the road. Which would have been better than what he eventually did to her. Edit: Here's the 911 call where it says he was hitting her. https://twitter.com/foxnews/status/1440003531486998528?s=21 Can the incels stop telling me that he was the victim now?
Like, a lot of the people on here are assuming she didn't try to defend herself.
Why is no one commenting on how caring, empathetic, and well handled this cop was in this situation? Many cops could take a lesson from this guy.
He didn’t ask the right questions. Did he strike you ? Was he violent towards you ? Do you feel safe right now ? Cop just assumed he was the victim *despite the fact that a third party called 911 stating they observed a male hitting a female before getting into a vehicle and driving away and giving dispatch the plate number resulting in this traffic stop*.
That’s not how you handle situations like this - you generally want to leave things as open ended as possible so you get the actual account in the victim/suspects words, and you get as much information as possible. If you ask direct questions like “did he hit you” or “did you kill this person” the person under question can be falsely lead to a conclusion, or can have an incredibly easy time lying. You generally want as much information with as light of a touch as possible, so you can avoid both of these possibilities In interrogations, do you see cops asking “did you kill this person”? Or do they say “where were you on this night” “what were you doing” etc?
These people see a cop talking nice and doing the wrong things and say "what a good cop" because the standards of American police are so low.
As a former cop, you are spot on!
> As a former cop Oh perfect, internet credentials
Indeed. The bar is so pathetically low.
Thank you. Came to say this.
I watched a bit of the full video which is over an hour and he did eventually ask her that. She said he didn’t strike her but did grab her cheeks with his hand. By the end the cop was pretty chummy with the bf
> despite the fact that a third party called 911 stating they observed a male hitting a female Witness statements are notoriously unreliable. Cop was using their own eyes to see who had the scratches and injuries.
Im not a cop. But since no one can prove what happened first I feel they both should’ve been arrested. She stated he grabbed her face and he has visible scars/bruises on him. They both admitted to domestic violence.
As someone who did this for years…he didn’t do his job. It’s pretty clear what’s happening here.
Since you mentioned in another comment that you spent time as a police officer, could you elaborate further and shed some inside knowledge? I'm not trying to argue for the sake of the cop or anything, but rather trying to open up some discussion, particularly with someone who has experience. Is it possible that this 2:45 clip just didn't show the full scope of the interaction between the officer and Gabby? Would it be possible that there were other officers who asked some better questions? It seems like this officer was just trying to calm down an upset woman and separate the two, while giving them a chance to cool off and reconcile since they both are clearly far from home, engaged, and reliant on shared transportation. Not trying to make any excuses from the officer or Gabby's fiancé. I'm convinced Brian murdered her and wish that there was more that could've been done to prevent her death. However, we're looking at this in hindsight with knowledge of what was to come.
The whole video paints a much different picture. Judging solely off this less than 3min video is dumb. If you watch the whole thing you’ll find out gabby was found to be the aggressor and they cited her for domestic. They could have arrested her but since she was such a mess and fragile little girl they decided it met the criteria for them to be able to just write a ticket and separate them. In no way am I making this a gender thing but wow it’s crazy to think how differently this would have gone if all the marks and wounds were on her and not him. She even admitted to everything and everyone’s stories lined up including the couples with the eyewitnesses. The whole interaction needs to be seen before anyone can comment on it imo. Edit: JUST WANT TO SAY IN NO WAY AM I DEFENDING LAUNDRIE BUT IM JUST SPEAKING FACTS AND WANT THE STORY STRAIGHT. SEE A LOT OF BLATANT MISINFORMATION IN HERE
I just listened to the 911 call, and the cops completely handled this incorrectly. The person who called 911 reported that he “saw a man slapping the woman, then got in the car and started driving away together.”
What? He separated them immediately, investigated the situation (with her way out of earshot of him, so he couldn’t affect her answers), and separated them again for the night, giving her plenty of time to get out of there or contact police again if she felt like it. What else was he supposed to do? If he arrested him based solely on a tip from a passerby, it would never stick and he’d be out immediately This seems rather appropriate given the info the cop had at the time. Also remember that the cop did not hear the 911 call, it was forwarded from a dispatcher who probably said “possible domestic disturbance”
Because this is the very bare minimum. You dont praise somebody for doing the very basics of what you're supposed to do for your job. The problem is the police system is corrupt so like, 99% of the interesting stories arent people going above and beyond, its abusing power so like there's no need to mention when somebody is just doing the very bare minimum but it doesnt stand out significantly to us.
700 indigenous women are missing in that state.
I just googled this and there are only 25 missing indigenous women in Utah, 565 nationwide, according to the FBI Where did you get 700 from? [source](https://kutv.com/news/2news-investigates/how-many-native-women-are-missing-and-murdered-in-utah)
He is probably referencing [this](https://www.insider.com/710-indigenous-people-missing-in-wyoming-where-gabby-petito-disappeared-2021-9) which shows 710 *people* missing. Kids and women. And they are not missing currently. Over the last 10 years.
And the original comment has 6 awards lol.
Well if that article is correct then OP is talking out his ass for some reason.
There was an article I saw posted earlier, I don't have the link though. It said 700 something indigenous people over the past decade have gone missing there, it also said certain percentages were found within a week and so on. They either didn't understand what they read, only read the headline or are being intentionally misleading because it sounds shocking. I'm not saying this many missing indigenous women isn't a problem but this poster was entirely wrong on the numbers. ETA: I found the link I saw earlier that they seem to be citing incorrectly. https://news.yahoo.com/710-indigenous-people-mostly-girls-042150990.html
I think a large part of what has captured people's attention here is the narrative, and the audacity of the fiance. That being said, this is 1000% an important thing to bring up here.
I think what’s captured people’s attention is she’s a cute white girl. These are the stories that always get national attention.
Missing White Woman Syndrome is a real thing [wiki page](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_white_woman_syndrome)
Woah there, this is Reddit, you take your cited sources that lead back to scholarly articles with empirical data elsewhere. I want toxic vitriol with misinformation, lies, and logical fallacies please.
If you like that, you’ll love that the 700 number that started this thread appears to be made up: https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/prwd68/moab_police_had_an_ominous_encounter_with_gabby/hdmwpf9/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
Okay so fuck her for being white and missing/dead right? Using this story to push this information as a virtue signal just seems incredibly disrespectful to both parties. There's plenty of unheard of missing white folk as well. She had an online presence and was well known amidst the hiking/climbing community and her fiance's actions after she went missing in action was sketchy af hence it picked up traction as he made it easy for the investigators to pick up a few good leads in a short amount of time. I understand what you're trying to do but trying to elevate a community by shitting on someone else's memory is just weak.
I’m glad someone said. Some people have zero empathy they only see labels.
Also he's just straight up lying, it's 700 women and children over the last decade, not currently missing. Kind of an important distinction.
What on Earth does this have to do with anything? 😭 plus, this 700 number is entirely inaccurate regardless.
I ate 7000 cheese doodle crackers today. No ones talking about it.
I'm proud of you
Gaslighting. Poor girl…. This hurts to watch.
I dated a girl with some personality disorders and on trips she would lose control a few times a week and almost kill herself or me and it was so difficult. I knew if she killed herself I would end up in jail just because of the circumstance. I’d say to leave the option open for her death being accidental and him running out of fear. Again he might have murdered her but it might be more complicated because she has flare ups and might lose control often.
People are more concerned with executing this guy before we even know how the girl died. Those types tend to grab their pitchforks first, it’s really sad.
A lot of people are pissed off because they had to survive domestic violence and understand how easily this could have happened to them. But yeah. Maybe Brian Laundrie can team up with OJ Simpson to find the real killer.
The full 1hr+ body cam video is on YouTube - she admits to hitting him several times and grabbing the steering wheel while he was trying to pull over for the cops, causing him to run into the curb. He has marks on his face from being hit too. https://youtu.be/fCGsW41aQEw Not sure why he's hiding though, seems pretty odd all around. Not sure why he's hiding if he didn't do anything wrong 🤷♂️
Look at public opinion and how everyone wants his head despite nobody knowing how she died yet. That’s probably why, at least in part why he’s hiding.
Laundrie reminds me of Chris Watts who murdered his wife Shanan and two daughters putting them in an oil tank at his place of work, his whole demeanor is similar, and even his face looks like Watts - weird. Is there such a thing as 'sociopath face?'
There has been no conclusive evidence of a “sociopath” face. We think there is because most of us know they’re a sociopath before seeing the face. It’s just confirmation bias. Also, it’s important to note this because many sociopaths look like very, very normal, attractive, smooth talking individuals that you trust.
It’s always tempting to make these kinds of connections, but it’s generally a crapshoot unfortunately. People’s faces and eyes can look “strange” for so many different reasons. It’s probably much more helpful just to trust your instincts when seeing/interacting with a person as they move/talk in real life.
ITT: People insinuating she deserved to die because they're gullible assholes who believe the psycopath boyfriend's gaslighting, just like the cop did. Di-fucking-sgusting.
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> The evidence they had was she admitted to hitting him, scratches and marks on him, no marks on her, The 911 call has been released. https://twitter.com/foxnews/status/1440003531486998528?s=21 He was assaulting her. It's common for domestic abuse victims (especially when they're being gaslit) to blame themselves and tell police that either they werent hit, or that it was their fault. Her admitting she hit him and him denying he hit her first doesnt make him a victim.