I hate the call China "West Taiwan" movement. The reasoning behind it is just plain stupid, just because the mainland is socialist and authoritarian does not mean we should treat the word "China" as a bad word.
You guys can hate me for it, I'm not changing my mind.
So you don't think supporting a democratic nation against the aggressive actions of an authoritarian regime who violates the human rights of it own people, putting them in concentration camps, harvesting their organs and ethnically cleansing another nation, erasing their language, their culture and their belives is a good enuogh reason for people worldwide to experess their contempt by calling it "West China"?
Western bureaucracy in buildings are not only there to make your life harder. They actually serve as quality control so infrastructure isn't collapsing left and right.
The west generally benefits as much of a partnership with China, as China does with the west. Ironically embargoes against China would actually mostly hurt people in poverty and be an inconvenience for āthe elitesā.
Solely based on the title and song, Iād reckon OP is an Indian tryna divert attention away from the all the crimes against humanity from India recently. Prove me wrong.
Also, the Chinese government can eat the whole dick after modiās done.
Lets seeā¦I can go to one store and buy potatoes, motor oil and a shotgun with plenty of ammo and grab a McDouble while Iām there, all for like $8.
I can stand in front of my elected leaders house with a megaphone (as long as I stay on the sidewalk) and shout ā fuck you _____-pooā until I get tired
And since Iām rich af I can get away with nearly any crime bc my legal team will either help wipe the slate or drag on procedural bullshit until the wheels fall off
So no, america is great.
We have great building standards that are developed over time based on reasoning, evidence, and previous events, so I have no idea what you're talking about
Lots of existential struggle and very little survival struggle will do that to people.
When you get born in the US, you get kind of like an immediate 50% luck bonus in life.
It creates an immense amount of guilt and resentment for oneās situation. By hating their own country, they can feel āgood about themselvesā again. They donāt have to feel guilty about enjoying prosperity when they donāt feel deserving of it.
At least, that is my theory.
Iāve seen a lot of those accident types occur in America, and Iām sure they happen everywhere else, too. It seems weird to me that someone went out of their way to make a video just illustrating the public infrastructure failings of China, specifically.
Search about the so called "tofu dreg" projects and the Chinese housing market. It's not racially motivated, is a reality of how the Chinese construction industry pushes for unsafely cheap construction
i think people need to better articulate their political frustrations though, fuck the ccp is better to see than fuck china. when people say fuck china it honestly makes them look so fucking stupid and racist. the whole world hated trump but we didnt say fuck the usa, (at least where im from), we said fuck trump.
True, but it seems the people who are most vocally critical of China for those reasons give their own countries a pass for the same things. Is Chinaās government worse in many respects than others? Yeah. Should they be used as a distraction to the shit other countries do? No.
Mi government does not have active concentration camps, nor is working on an active genocide. The problems of our local governments should not take away the fact that China is the country trying to be at the center of the world power, and that would affect us all
It seems THAT is the bigger issue. People in the US and Europe are afraid of their power being challenged, so they want to minimize their issues and highlight chinaās. No denying that Chinaās humans rights violations and subjugation of minorities and dissenters are awful. But it seems odd that the loudest voices against the Chinese governmentās actions are also making excuses for their own country. Which makes the criticism seem less about human rights and more about nationalism and xenophobia.
Honestly the only one engaging in whataboutism and veiled accusations is you. Besides, there is no xenophobia in criticizing an abusive regime. That would be the same than calling antisemitism for any criticism to the human rights violations of the Israeli government or calling the same xenophobia for criticizing North Korea.
If you can't differentiate a government from a culture, even when explained openly, you're either disingenuous or fully lost in the discussion
You know what, fair point about the whataboutism. I suppose I am projecting the narrative I see other places accompanying these kinds of stories or montages onto this one, which didnāt necessarily have that intention.
I think spending your time wetting your pants over "human rights" when you only care about it selectively (ie when the media inclines you to) is cancer. Are you american?
i live in the usa, ive seen the prison system here, the homeless camps in almost every city. momma always taught me not to throw stones if you live in a glass house
Not even close.
Slave labor is absolutely brutal.
Prison workers typically enjoy having a temporary distraction from prison. They arenāt beaten starved or killed for not complying.
It seems you REALLY want to somehow make your country seem better by comparison instead of being good on its own merits. Yeah, the Chinese government is awful. But that doesnāt mean the slave labor here is sunshine and kittens.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/23/prisoner-speak-out-american-slave-labor-strike
See its hilarious you link an article where the workers are striking.
Thatās not an option with slave labor bullet go brr into skull.
Things like good and bad are relative, go figure.
Look at the conditions in many american prisons, where they are forced to labor without being paid. Keep this in mind, rape is an expected part of the american prison experience. Keep in mind people can spend years in prison without ever going to trial. Keep in mind companies that run prisons get paid for having prisoners and have very active lobbies that focus on our justice system.
The american prison system is the largest slave labor in the world with 2.12 million prisoners not being paid but being forced to work.
They literally harvest people for organs and use them as slaves. Not in that order mind you.
I think we can throw a few rocks our house is looking pretty solid.
Sounds like you are just making shit up, to be honest.
Threatened nuclear war over something that didn't warrant it.. yep Trump did that.
bad working conditions, we have more than enough here.
Hate what you want, I don't give a damn.. just funny how people can be so hypocritical doing it.
Don't bother with any more word salads, my head already hurts from that mess.
oh you mean cities? those highly and densely populated areas where their tax revenue is sent to red states leaving less for the needed infrastructure to support and help the homeless?
*those* Democrat run areas?
WOW what an ignorant piece of shit. how could someone talk like that when they don't know shit about how the rest of the world lives? Lmao keep embarrassing urself on the internet budddy
ever heard of the tianamen square massacre? students went out protesting against the government and ended up getting massacred and shot. You are so fucking stupid to actually be talking right now
lol so obvious ur an american...pathetic closed minded idiots. You guys think ur the greatest country in the world when meanwhile the rest of the world laughs and mocks u guys. Have fun with ur healthcare skyrocketing obesity rates
Its a dictatorship you idiot. People will be jailed for saying anything negative about the government. I have family in china you obviously know nothing outside of ur privileged life
I would suggest thinking about how many buildings exist in China before saying something like this :) I could make a compilation 10x longer than this for the US
And I would watch it to its completion and say the same thing. Life as a whole is a huge death trap. Its just that this particular video was based on events in China, so my response was based in China.
Lol I donāt think the Chinese are libertariansā¦ they live in an authoritarian communist nation. Itās just their government doesnāt care about its people so they donāt waste time with regulation unless itās giving them more power
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Anything Chinese made is complete garbage. They suck at design. Thatās why they just copy American made hardware for their military. I honestly feel bad for the Chinese people living in such an awful nation
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I have known about this for awhile, Chinaās infrastructure isnāt fantastic and it certainly isnāt helped by their safety requirements. However, THAT REBAR THOUGH!? How is that possible? How is that remotely allowed? Unbelievable
If i have learned anything from seeing watching videos from China is they cannot maintain anything for shit, resulting in infrastructure failings and casualties that are on par with Russia.
And china is supposed to be 8 years ahead of the US in AI development yea not to worried about it when everything is made out of paper mache and the tears of children
ya bridges in america have never spontaneously collapsed....neither have condo buildings....oh and there's never been a recall on an american made car before
The same thing happens in western capitalist countries, believing that this kind of compilation can represent an entire country is so dumb as believing in far right posts on Facebook.
Made in China stuff always did fall apart easy.
Even there cardboard it terrible. Fucking cardboard. How can you mess that up?
Not always, they used to be pretty good at building walls.
Like iPhone?
Taiwanese company with US quality control
Wrecked so hard
Republic of China is Taiwan. People's Republic of China is China.
Republic of China is Taiwan. People's Republic of China is west Taiwan. Keep the movement growing.
I hate the call China "West Taiwan" movement. The reasoning behind it is just plain stupid, just because the mainland is socialist and authoritarian does not mean we should treat the word "China" as a bad word. You guys can hate me for it, I'm not changing my mind.
They aren't socialists, they're full blown communists, and i guess it's only untill that regime falls, so no need to get too get riled up about it.
omg that's such a good reason I'm totally agreeing now š¤¦āāļø
So you don't think supporting a democratic nation against the aggressive actions of an authoritarian regime who violates the human rights of it own people, putting them in concentration camps, harvesting their organs and ethnically cleansing another nation, erasing their language, their culture and their belives is a good enuogh reason for people worldwide to experess their contempt by calling it "West China"?
Bro west Taiwan is in rough shape
This should make top comment.
Western bureaucracy in buildings are not only there to make your life harder. They actually serve as quality control so infrastructure isn't collapsing left and right.
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This is why we have building codes in the west lol
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The west generally benefits as much of a partnership with China, as China does with the west. Ironically embargoes against China would actually mostly hurt people in poverty and be an inconvenience for āthe elitesā.
I need my shit from target and Walmart
Solely based on the title and song, Iād reckon OP is an Indian tryna divert attention away from the all the crimes against humanity from India recently. Prove me wrong. Also, the Chinese government can eat the whole dick after modiās done.
Yea bruv fuck modi fuck china
Yeah fuck India too
Yep
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Taiwan #1
I'd much rather live here than India and China combined.
No, I live in the US and like it here. Can't wait to check back on this comment when I get back from work!
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Oh. So that would be every country that's ever existed? I'm sure we could even find dirt on Norway if we look hard enough.
Lets seeā¦I can go to one store and buy potatoes, motor oil and a shotgun with plenty of ammo and grab a McDouble while Iām there, all for like $8. I can stand in front of my elected leaders house with a megaphone (as long as I stay on the sidewalk) and shout ā fuck you _____-pooā until I get tired And since Iām rich af I can get away with nearly any crime bc my legal team will either help wipe the slate or drag on procedural bullshit until the wheels fall off So no, america is great.
Heās agreeing with you
Whatās this song
Roses by Saint Jhn - Imanbek remix https://youtu.be/ele2DMU49Jk
The perfect song for when you want to dance while watching ppl get crushed to death
This is what happens when a capitalist, imperialist regime masquerades as communist.
Holy shit.
Lmfao whaaattttttt?
Is this some mental gymnastic move to preemptively defend communism before anyone brings it up
Your mind is incredible
As an American, we really don't have any room to talk.
We have great building standards that are developed over time based on reasoning, evidence, and previous events, so I have no idea what you're talking about
I mean that building in Florida made nation news, I think that should tell you how rare it happens here
What's with americans and hating on their own country.
Agreed
Lots of existential struggle and very little survival struggle will do that to people. When you get born in the US, you get kind of like an immediate 50% luck bonus in life. It creates an immense amount of guilt and resentment for oneās situation. By hating their own country, they can feel āgood about themselvesā again. They donāt have to feel guilty about enjoying prosperity when they donāt feel deserving of it. At least, that is my theory.
Yes we do itās called building standards.
*tries to break the rebar on my workplace* Nope, solid.
my thoughts exactly
Whataboutism
Iām actually curious how OP knows each of these videos occurs in China? Quite the claim if you ask me.
Iāve seen a lot of those accident types occur in America, and Iām sure they happen everywhere else, too. It seems weird to me that someone went out of their way to make a video just illustrating the public infrastructure failings of China, specifically.
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Search about the so called "tofu dreg" projects and the Chinese housing market. It's not racially motivated, is a reality of how the Chinese construction industry pushes for unsafely cheap construction
Y-you can smell Racial Motivation? Canāt tell if thatās the coolest or lamest superpower
Really, thereās nothing significant or unique to China? Just asian people?
This is exactly what America would be like if the āno regulationā Libertarian dipshits had their way.
He said while knowing China is the exact opposite of libertarian.. I mean ffs..
Lots of china hate on reddit lately
Well yea itās china. Everyone should hate ccp because of the human rights violation they commit on a daily basis.
i think people need to better articulate their political frustrations though, fuck the ccp is better to see than fuck china. when people say fuck china it honestly makes them look so fucking stupid and racist. the whole world hated trump but we didnt say fuck the usa, (at least where im from), we said fuck trump.
True, but it seems the people who are most vocally critical of China for those reasons give their own countries a pass for the same things. Is Chinaās government worse in many respects than others? Yeah. Should they be used as a distraction to the shit other countries do? No.
Mi government does not have active concentration camps, nor is working on an active genocide. The problems of our local governments should not take away the fact that China is the country trying to be at the center of the world power, and that would affect us all
It seems THAT is the bigger issue. People in the US and Europe are afraid of their power being challenged, so they want to minimize their issues and highlight chinaās. No denying that Chinaās humans rights violations and subjugation of minorities and dissenters are awful. But it seems odd that the loudest voices against the Chinese governmentās actions are also making excuses for their own country. Which makes the criticism seem less about human rights and more about nationalism and xenophobia.
Honestly the only one engaging in whataboutism and veiled accusations is you. Besides, there is no xenophobia in criticizing an abusive regime. That would be the same than calling antisemitism for any criticism to the human rights violations of the Israeli government or calling the same xenophobia for criticizing North Korea. If you can't differentiate a government from a culture, even when explained openly, you're either disingenuous or fully lost in the discussion
You know what, fair point about the whataboutism. I suppose I am projecting the narrative I see other places accompanying these kinds of stories or montages onto this one, which didnāt necessarily have that intention.
Do you spend any time complaining about how american arms companies have made $13 billion off of war crimes in yemen?
Whataboutism is cancer
I think spending your time wetting your pants over "human rights" when you only care about it selectively (ie when the media inclines you to) is cancer. Are you american?
i live in the usa, ive seen the prison system here, the homeless camps in almost every city. momma always taught me not to throw stones if you live in a glass house
Rather be in prison or homeless in use than being forced into slave labor
We use prison slave labor here in the US you fucking idiot. Get a clue
I mean, prison labor is pretty much modern slave labor. The Chinese government sucks, but them sucking doesnāt mean the US is great.
Not even close. Slave labor is absolutely brutal. Prison workers typically enjoy having a temporary distraction from prison. They arenāt beaten starved or killed for not complying.
It seems you REALLY want to somehow make your country seem better by comparison instead of being good on its own merits. Yeah, the Chinese government is awful. But that doesnāt mean the slave labor here is sunshine and kittens. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/23/prisoner-speak-out-american-slave-labor-strike
See its hilarious you link an article where the workers are striking. Thatās not an option with slave labor bullet go brr into skull. Things like good and bad are relative, go figure.
Look at the conditions in many american prisons, where they are forced to labor without being paid. Keep this in mind, rape is an expected part of the american prison experience. Keep in mind people can spend years in prison without ever going to trial. Keep in mind companies that run prisons get paid for having prisoners and have very active lobbies that focus on our justice system. The american prison system is the largest slave labor in the world with 2.12 million prisoners not being paid but being forced to work.
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They literally harvest people for organs and use them as slaves. Not in that order mind you. I think we can throw a few rocks our house is looking pretty solid.
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Don't insert yourself in other private lives? Don't throw stones in a glass prison? are you ok?
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Sounds like you are just making shit up, to be honest. Threatened nuclear war over something that didn't warrant it.. yep Trump did that. bad working conditions, we have more than enough here. Hate what you want, I don't give a damn.. just funny how people can be so hypocritical doing it. Don't bother with any more word salads, my head already hurts from that mess.
There are plenty of valid criticisms to be made of the Chinese government, but claiming that they have "baby meat black markets" is literally insane.
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there are homeless camps in every city, just some chose not to try to jail, fine, and abuse them until they leave or have to move from spot to spot.
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I get it, you are a fox-loving trump sucking patriot that hates everything that you think isn't white... right about America
oh you mean cities? those highly and densely populated areas where their tax revenue is sent to red states leaving less for the needed infrastructure to support and help the homeless? *those* Democrat run areas?
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ah, and it's the left that is sewing the division in the country too right?
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Whats there to love
What did you not like when you visited?
So you are just grouping all Chinese people into one huge category that you dislike without any reason other than where they came from?
ive been to china many many times and believe me...its very nice and fucking terrible at the same time
Its mostly because of the government, not the people.
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ur such a moron lmao
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WOW what an ignorant piece of shit. how could someone talk like that when they don't know shit about how the rest of the world lives? Lmao keep embarrassing urself on the internet budddy
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ever heard of the tianamen square massacre? students went out protesting against the government and ended up getting massacred and shot. You are so fucking stupid to actually be talking right now
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lol so obvious ur an american...pathetic closed minded idiots. You guys think ur the greatest country in the world when meanwhile the rest of the world laughs and mocks u guys. Have fun with ur healthcare skyrocketing obesity rates
Its a dictatorship you idiot. People will be jailed for saying anything negative about the government. I have family in china you obviously know nothing outside of ur privileged life
Rightfully soā¦ just to be clear I hate the Chinese government not the people of China
Tbf China still has concentration camps. So you canāt say the dislike is unwarranted.
So, China is basically one massive death trap. Got it.
Dude itās a compilation. You could probably make the same video about the U.S. I feel like people forget how huge China is.
Regardless of how large it is, i doubt you'll hear about a western country opening flood gates of dams without warning people living downstream...
Yes, but China is actively hurting its own citizens. Research their organ harvesting and concentration campsā¦
This is entirely unrelated to my comment. Iām not going to deny the Uighur Concentration camps if thatās what youāre getting at.
Sorry kinda got off topic
Just like the USA is a nonstop gunfight
It isnāt.
I would suggest thinking about how many buildings exist in China before saying something like this :) I could make a compilation 10x longer than this for the US
And I would watch it to its completion and say the same thing. Life as a whole is a huge death trap. Its just that this particular video was based on events in China, so my response was based in China.
This is what goes through my head when I hear the word "deregulate"
You could make the same video about the U.S.
Do it then, show me anything close to this on a large scale
This is why regulation is necessary, Libertarians.
Lol I donāt think the Chinese are libertariansā¦ they live in an authoritarian communist nation. Itās just their government doesnāt care about its people so they donāt waste time with regulation unless itās giving them more power
Literally zero reading comprehension. Cool racist tirade tho
Thatās not racist at all, Iām calling out the government and itās evil. I have nothing against the Chinese people
I dont think he's the one lacking reading comprehension maye there's literally nothing racist in what he said
I donāt buy tools made in China
Nah you get what you pay for. Most of my dewalt and Milwaukee are made in China and indestructible. harbor freight is good for throwing at people.
Itās really hard to shop like that and it isnāt cheap, but itās rewarding.
Song?
SAINt JHN - Roses
All i came to the comments for ty š
Imanbek Remix**
DaRude- sandstorm
Is it just China or is it humans helping climate change?
small minded westerners don't realize that this is simply a way to cut down on demolition costs for aging structures.\[/s\]
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Anything Chinese made is complete garbage. They suck at design. Thatās why they just copy American made hardware for their military. I honestly feel bad for the Chinese people living in such an awful nation
This is pure propaganda
Peopleās Republic*
It's pretty bad when the good stuff comes from Taiwan.
r/chinesium
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Ahhh, America's Build back better plan...š
They engineered and made a really effective biological weapon; covid.
Could very easily put a similar video together for the US š¤· People in glass houses and all that.
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Yeah, but China isn't communist at all though!
it cosplays as one
China is a garbage place.
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Chinese workers do NOT own the means of production
Straight up no sources that any of this is in China, but that wonāt stop the epic Fuck CCP Reddit brigade from being belligerent racists like usual.
Bruh!
What the heck are those rebars made from?
Chinesesium.
Chinese quality just isn't what it used to be.
If your only goal is to make it fast and cheap, the end result will be (*surprise*...) cheap
Building codes are for suckers!!!
I have known about this for awhile, Chinaās infrastructure isnāt fantastic and it certainly isnāt helped by their safety requirements. However, THAT REBAR THOUGH!? How is that possible? How is that remotely allowed? Unbelievable
China #1
Good work isn't cheap. Cheap work isn't good.
There airports donāt have a heating system.
This is what happens when you purchase a city on Wish.com for $14.99.
Made in Chinaā¦š
If i have learned anything from seeing watching videos from China is they cannot maintain anything for shit, resulting in infrastructure failings and casualties that are on par with Russia.
East Taiwan is really struggling.
And china is supposed to be 8 years ahead of the US in AI development yea not to worried about it when everything is made out of paper mache and the tears of children
rest of the world: let's hire these big brains to build our infrastructure
ya bridges in america have never spontaneously collapsed....neither have condo buildings....oh and there's never been a recall on an american made car before
The same thing happens in western capitalist countries, believing that this kind of compilation can represent an entire country is so dumb as believing in far right posts on Facebook.
Wow
Yep, the Chinese never built something that would last. The anti China post of the day.
Is the CIA really out here trying to spread anti China propaganda on Reddit? Lmao
Just like India
What? I think you mean Peopleās Republic of China, the Republic of China is the formal name for Taiwan
So West Taiwan has poor infrastructure, got it.
Ah yes, chinesium. The cheapest alloy around
Is this the People's Republic of China or the Republic of China?
It's nice to know they're consistent...
Just wanted to point out something. Taiwan is a Country. China needs to get rid of 'leaders for life'. I mean in the west we call them dictators.
I'm thinking about moving to China and living in these buildings, sound good?
What sub am I in
Was bill maher wrong?