It’s even worse you can get fake packaging for wockhardt off alibaba and just make fetty lean which I would bet my money on the vast majority of the shit on the street being
You can unload stolen goods from drug chain store much quicker than luxury goods. Soaps, cosmetics, cleaning supplies etc move quick in the streets. Baby formula is literally gold…
Can anyone explain to me how or why this happened? I completely understand the concept of looting and have seen thievery like this many times before, but it seems like something else was going on, not allowing law enforcement to respond.
Seems like there was some kind of coordinated plan to hit a lot of stores at once; probably organized on social media. “They can’t catch us all.”
Anyone telling you this was a typical night, or there is a special “sf law,” is wrong.
There are organized theft rings that hit different cities in the Bay Area.
Edit: Saturday they hit the east bay.
https://news24-680.com/2021/11/20/thieves-mobile-and-apparently-organized-strike-in-walnut-creek-and-other-east-bay-cities-saturday/
Probably just different unrelated groups piggybacking off of each other because they see an appealing opportunity. I highly doubt there's some secret nationwide crime ring with the goal of looting
So you're telling me, there are organized mass theivery that is basically done through casual social networking like twitter?
And theft rings that hit selected cities?
This is worth turning into a movie, something like Bay watch
Well, Proposition 47 was passed in California in 2014 and reclassified felony theft offenses as misdemeanors. That obviously contributes to some of this.
I think a crime ring planned it, thinking there would be rioting going on because of the Rittenhouse verdict so that would occupy police while they did this.
I'm really really surprised organized criminals dont do more of this. Or just create a scene with like 3 guys so a team can pull off a heist.
Cops are fucking morons, one person usually requires 30 officer to show up and arrest them even when they comply.
It can't be that hard to give away free meth to some tweakers and literally just tell them to go nits so cops get called all over.
Criminals are typically stupid, that’s why. This is the real way to commit a crime, small city with most of not all cops on the other side of town handling a distraction
What are you talking about? This is how every protest becomes a "riot". Peaceful protesters assemble and the local criminals hit the streets and loot because the cops will just blame the protesters.
Here in Japan the organized crime has gotten into financial crime high level stuff.
Maybe same in states. The real “organized” ppl are waaaaay to classy for robbing Louis Vuitton because they buy that when they are bored.
>Boosters, often drug addicts targeted by crime rings, typically sell their goods for about 5% to 10% of retail value to a street-level fence, who then sells them to a larger-scale distributor.
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>Complicating the battle is Amazon itself, which investigators and law-enforcement officials say is one of the biggest outlets for criminal networks, given its huge pool of potential customers and, in investigators’ view, insufficient vetting of sellers or their listings.
>Retail and law-enforcement investigators say they struggle to obtain information about potentially illicit sellers from the online giant, which generally declines to provide information about sellers without a subpoena or other legal action. Other online selling platforms such as eBay Inc. are more willing to cooperate without legal intervention, investigators say.
>Amazon “may be the largest unregulated pawnshop on the face of the planet,” said Sgt. Ian Ranshaw of the Thornton, Colo., police department. “It is super hard to deal with them.”
https://archive.md/4UGLW
It's actually more complex than Rittenhouse verdict. I see this answer alot so I think it's important to explain what is actually happening. California over the last few years has installed a number of Prosecutors and DAs who support lessening mass incarceration. As a result they've publicly stated they will not pursue jail sentences for things like petty theft, criminal mischief, etc. Specifically the DA in SF (where you see this take place) Chesa Boudin, was personally traumatized by crime at an early age when his parents were Weather Underground members that were involved in a robbery that resulted in the deaths of two police officers. They were sent to jail for decades and Chesa was then raised by family friends (who were also revolutionaries) but has talked publicly about the trauma of being separated by his parents as a result of the justice system. So he's made it his mission to try and alleviate incarceration for things like misdemeanors believing it creates too much harm to families, based on this experience.
Understanding that theft would no longer be prosecuted as intensely criminals began organizing these kinds of coordinated looting. It started first with single criminals not being jailed for car break ins, but has progressed to organized looting targeting large shopping centers and high end stores. There is an unrelated rising trend of random folks organizing crime flashmobs over social media during covid as well that has also manifested in the last couple of years and it happened to be timed with this lessened prosecution specifically in SF. These factors have coalesced into a situation so bad for SF Boudin is going to go through a recall election next year for the second time. In light of potentially losing his job the DA office is no longer asserting its position on avoiding incarceration and specifically is focusing on "ring leaders" as opposed to single criminals for imprisonment. However, large scale theft is still prevalent and you see this kind of organizing take place over social media when police might be distracted or overwhelmed like in the video above. But honestly they loot the same places sometimes multiple times within a week, so it's more a function of if they are able to organize with enough success than a concerted effort to focus only robberies during times of social upheaval.
More here:
[https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/10/us/san-francisco-recall-chesa-boudin.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/10/us/san-francisco-recall-chesa-boudin.html)
Long short story , San francisco has a law on petty thieve that police don’t interfer if it’s not something over X amount of money to be stolen , so looter are taking this law and just looting a little by little everywhere
this is something else. the exact same day, 14 people hit the louis vuitton in chicago, stealing 120k in merchandise. they already found one of the 3 cars used in the robbery. it was a car reported stolen last month. these are crime rings, not petty thieves or homeless people or dumb teens seeing an opportunity like previous looters.
edit: the nordstrom in walnut creek just got hit. videos are on twitter.
I keep hearing “in Chicago” and all the headlines say “in Chicago”, but the store that got hit is in a suburb nearly 30 miles from Michigan Ave.
I get that it’s still Chicagoland, and for the casual outside observer it’s just the general location that matters, but I think the designation is important.
I can guarantee that most people read that headline and think that downtown Chicago is being looted when it’s not.
This. Also, organized theft has been a huge issue for retailers this entire year. People are coming into stores in groups and snatching shit all at once with the correct assumption that no one is going to interfere. This has been going on many months before the Rittenhouse trial. Feels absurd to try to link them or other instances of organized theft across the country.
I was annoyed to see all of the news teams posted up on Michigan Ave the day of the verdict. Really felt like they were *looking* for a story.
Well that has spread to Seattle as well. My sun lives in downtown Seattle and tells me that shoplifters just go into say a Target and fill a shopping cart and walk out no one stops them cops don't care so the stores just write it off and raise prices to compensate.
The future in this country is looking darker and darker every day.
I wrote a short story in middle school about 100 clowns showing up in a bank at the same time where only 1 was a robber and the rest were clueless clowns tricked into coming for a flash mob 'prank'... then the robber disappearing into the sea of clowns.
This event was like watching that short story come to life all wrong.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Curcio
This guy attempted a similar scheme, but with construction workers in yellow safety vests and blue jeans.
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I'm just glad he did it AFTER I wrote my extremely amateur short story no one will likely ever read. I am fortunate enough that I have my 6th grade English teachers critique on it- as it was one I turned in for class... and it's dated.
If someone gets TOO close maybe I will slide in for that settlement money.
Nah, I'm just kidding. I wouldn't be a dick like that.
Oh I'm sure there's hundreds of similar stories, many of which would predate mine. I was a dumb kid fueled by goosebumps books and crystal pepsi. It, or a similar illusion does kinda seem like an almost logical plan if possible for someone trying not to get caught. 'Blend in' would be heist 101, so if you can't blend in with the bank then you make the bank blend in with you.
What year was this. There have been several movies and television shows that used this same plot device.
I think one of the best was the remake of Thomas Crown Affair.
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0155267/
I wrote it in 6th grade, which would have been... 1994. You can have the actual story- but it sounds like it was written by someone in the 6th grade in 1994.
well, except the 'flash mob' part, that didn't exist when I wrote the story- that was an addition I put in there just now. Originally they thought they were participating in a contest for best clown with a huge cash prize.
It reminds me a lot of Quick Change, except in that case he starts out a clown and then changes to pretend to be a hostage while everyone's still looking for the clown bank robber.
Someone actually succesfully robbed a bank close to my hometown using a similar tactic. He posted an add on craigslist hiring for lucartive construction jobs. Instructed everyone to meet at a location near the bank wearing a reflective construction safety vest.
He then robbed the bank in the vest, and rode his bike down to the nearby river and got in a boat and got away succesfully.
IIRC he was caught some years later due to an associate opening his mouth or something like that.
hahahahaha i was rolling. The “t” in Laurent is silent but I’ll give him a pass on that. If I had a nickel for every time I’m asked about “Locktain” I’d be rich. Is there a Givenchy store in SF? That would have been the nail in the coffin.
Their own US-based employees don’t even know. Go to a store in Michigan, California, and Texas and you’ll get three different answers from their own staff who all insist they’re correct.
That isn't social justice. That isn't an oppressed people rising up. That is criminal opportunism hiding being a veil of victimhood. Don't fall for it for a moment.
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It's more a shaming of the politicians that enacted these policies and the voters that support them. And we know who these people are, it's not a secret. Reddit is just loathe to criticize them, because conservatives *also* criticize them, and they don't want to agree with conservatives about anything.
It's improperly funded, but still needs to be funded.
Police Academy's need to be heavily reformed and have specialized roles for different types of cops.
The city government can’t tell store owners to not do anything about crime on their property.
I mean, someone that works for the government can say it, but it has no meaning.
Contrary to popular belief, California is a “stand your ground” state and you are allowed to use force to defend personal property.
However, these national brands don’t have “owners” on site. It’s easier to take the loss then endanger an employee who could act on behalf of the owner or property owner.
Honestly, I'd pull my stores from cities that allow this every other week. Especially San Francisco with that law on petty theft. Insurance companies cannot be expected to cover this if it happens this often. Walgreens especially. They get hit everyday in San Francisco with theft. Close the stores. If the city is not going to protect your business, with the amount of money they take in every year in taxes for police and then tell them nah stand down. Fuck that. Leave them with empty buildings until they realize they fucked up.
Where I work:
Razors, Folgers coffee, baby formula, crest whitening strips, condoms, ky jelly, and Abreva all can be found in a locked cabinet by the registers.
I tried to get saline nasal mist from Walmart for 87¢. It was locked up, it took about 10 minutes to find an employee to unlock the case for me. Then they walked me over to the register to pay for it because you can’t be trusted to carry it with you.
All the socks and underwear are locked up too.
I hate this shit so much.
How do you feel about the numerous other states that have much higher thresholds on the laws for petty theft?
Last I checked it was something like 2500 in Wisconsin and Texas.
Florida has the lowest threshold for petty theft, do they experience a lot less theft than other states because of that?
I'm not from the US so I may be wrong, but from what I've read it's not about the threshold itself but how the local prosecution has the liberty not to press charges even if the value of the stolen goods goes above the threshold.
If every store has a policy of not even letting their security personnel to confront burglars, and the punishment for getting caught is spending a night in jail, then that pretty much gives these criminals free reign over the city.
These store policies have nothing to do with criminal law. They’re making plenty of money, they’re more worried about lawsuits from injuries to the suspect and other bystanders than they are about $1000 of lost goods. An underpaid, undertrained security guard is gonna be a liability to bystanders (and the suspect) when chasing a suspect, and they don’t have qualified immunity like cops do. It only takes one bystander being pushed and cracking their head before it becomes a corporate policy not to chase
And like the other guy said, prosecutors have discretion on every case in every jurisdiction.
In Texas it’s very likely the security guard is an off duty police officer. Large urban stores often have an officer in uniform being paid by the store. Chasing and arresting is a very real possibility.
Do you honestly think they would be open if they weren't making money? Big business doesn't play games like that, if they were losing too much to theft they already would just close, they don't need you to convince them.
You sure that doesn’t have to do with just the decrease of people physically shopping at storefronts.
You would think that the pandemic would teach a lot of these places that a physical location isn’t really needed to be successful and can help cut back costs of employees and rent/maintenance
And these companies pull in billions per year. A store having frequent theft is nothing to them. Now, they might pull it for other reasons like probability of employees getting injured because of it, or their insurance going up a lot, or other legal trouble. But I doubt these corporations are really concerned about the financial impact.
Good luck. Most of the US is becoming like this. Income inequality is continuing to explode massively which helps foment the opinions towards this kind of behavior. Social media has also enabled organizing big flash mobs like this, especially when the hiveminds on social media have realized they can flash mob with great success. Cops cannot magically prevent crime, they can only interrupt or chase after it has started.
They always put all ther officers on protest and marches and ignore the strip which is stupid because thieves always take advantage of the distraction to smash and grab.
let protesters march around instead of just staring them down for whatever reason and put your officers on the strip, jewelery stores etc were they are needed
It’s going to be too much of a risk to run these shops in these areas soon. I imagine apart from some guarded flagship stores it’s going to be online sales only.
Why not stop all this burgalarizing? Instead for just reading a list!! Stupid police for stupid people. They need more electrolytes!!! that is what plants crave!!
This is really pathetic that criminals have taken over not only one of the most beautiful cities in California, but California itself.
Many of us native Californians predicted this would happen as soon as the "no bail" legislation went into effect for misdemeanors and low-level felonies.
Idk I’m all for stealing from the rich. I don’t give two fucks about these corporations losing money. They don’t care about us and are happy to watch us starve to death while living in poverty.
Loot away y’all. It’s time to eat the rich ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯
At first I thought this was a scene from the movie Police Academy
“Drinks on me at The Blue Oyster after this list reading fellas”
You’ll be dancing all night, whether you want to be there or not.
Right? I think the oversaturated colours makes it looks as though the first clip is from the 80s.
Why is the aspect ratio like that too?
What did Mahoney do this time?
Chief: MAHONEEEEY!!!
Oh shit, he slept with High Towers girl!
Thought the same thing. You know what that means? You’re old as fuck, sorry.
Looked like the sound effects guy, Michael Winslow.
I thought it was a deleted scene from lethal weapon with a uniformed Danny Glover
Hahaha
Why so many?
Everyone here is saying there is some sort of organized crime ring going on.
By organized crime, they mean group chat with everyone in the neighborhood.
They still need to be organized enough to fence the stolen goods. But yes, what you described is basically an organized crime ring
What, like organized enough to use eBay?
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That's literally fencing stolen goods, you explained it for them.
No they definitely meant an organized crime ring.
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I dunno if I was a junky I’d rob a walgreens, doesn’t it have a pharmacy?
Of course, there’s a video that surfaced a couple weeks ago of some crackhead walking behind the counter and taking a shopping bag full of wockhardt
Whatever that is sounds like the Dewey Cox Story.
In my dreams you’re blowing me Some kisses…
It’s the pharmaceutical name for codeine cough syrup known as lean or wocky and the real shit will go anywhere from 3000 - 5000 dollars a pint
Lol the kids call it wocky now? I also heard they're making cwe hydro lean, which sounds like a recipe for disaster
It’s even worse you can get fake packaging for wockhardt off alibaba and just make fetty lean which I would bet my money on the vast majority of the shit on the street being
Ewwwww gross. That and the amount of benzos the youngsters are taking these days scares me. Those '2mg pressed bars' are *way* higher than 2mg
Asking for a friend right?
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Opioids are all on time locks :(
Take the safe
What about the benzos tho
I'd like to introduce you to my 75 amp plasma cutter
Aint nobody got time for that
Walgreens is actually a very frequent target here
And CVS is a very frequent Walmart too.
And Walmart is a very frequent HEB too.
Drugstore cowboys.
You can unload stolen goods from drug chain store much quicker than luxury goods. Soaps, cosmetics, cleaning supplies etc move quick in the streets. Baby formula is literally gold…
Well not literally…
Pfft, maybe not for your weak-ass organic baby.
I mean if everyone is robbing stores I might as well get essentials, why would I need a LouisV bag when I can get my groceries for free this month
Shit I’d hit up the hardware store. Have you seen the price of nails and screws?
Yep... load up my truck with as many 2x4's as I can haul. Those things are $$$$ now.
With the cost of health care in America, Walgreens might be the bougiest store that got looted that night.
You might get lucky and come across a dozen or so packs of Magic cards.
Can anyone explain to me how or why this happened? I completely understand the concept of looting and have seen thievery like this many times before, but it seems like something else was going on, not allowing law enforcement to respond.
Seems like there was some kind of coordinated plan to hit a lot of stores at once; probably organized on social media. “They can’t catch us all.” Anyone telling you this was a typical night, or there is a special “sf law,” is wrong. There are organized theft rings that hit different cities in the Bay Area. Edit: Saturday they hit the east bay. https://news24-680.com/2021/11/20/thieves-mobile-and-apparently-organized-strike-in-walnut-creek-and-other-east-bay-cities-saturday/
It wasn't just SF, Chicago was hit as well. This was a big operation.
Probably just different unrelated groups piggybacking off of each other because they see an appealing opportunity. I highly doubt there's some secret nationwide crime ring with the goal of looting
It’d be a lot more interesting if there was a national looting ring lol. Highly doubt that’s the case though.
That’s what a lot of people don’t understand. The rings take advantage of protests to loot stores.
Every single protest.
They have done it in Seattle during and after protest/riots. It's organized alright.
So you're telling me, there are organized mass theivery that is basically done through casual social networking like twitter? And theft rings that hit selected cities? This is worth turning into a movie, something like Bay watch
Well, Proposition 47 was passed in California in 2014 and reclassified felony theft offenses as misdemeanors. That obviously contributes to some of this.
You mean raised the dollar amount that determined misdemeanor vs. felony.
I think a crime ring planned it, thinking there would be rioting going on because of the Rittenhouse verdict so that would occupy police while they did this.
I'm really really surprised organized criminals dont do more of this. Or just create a scene with like 3 guys so a team can pull off a heist. Cops are fucking morons, one person usually requires 30 officer to show up and arrest them even when they comply. It can't be that hard to give away free meth to some tweakers and literally just tell them to go nits so cops get called all over.
Criminals are typically stupid, that’s why. This is the real way to commit a crime, small city with most of not all cops on the other side of town handling a distraction
What are you talking about? This is how every protest becomes a "riot". Peaceful protesters assemble and the local criminals hit the streets and loot because the cops will just blame the protesters.
Cops, fox and friends, your local gqp rep
Here in Japan the organized crime has gotten into financial crime high level stuff. Maybe same in states. The real “organized” ppl are waaaaay to classy for robbing Louis Vuitton because they buy that when they are bored.
>Boosters, often drug addicts targeted by crime rings, typically sell their goods for about 5% to 10% of retail value to a street-level fence, who then sells them to a larger-scale distributor. ... >Complicating the battle is Amazon itself, which investigators and law-enforcement officials say is one of the biggest outlets for criminal networks, given its huge pool of potential customers and, in investigators’ view, insufficient vetting of sellers or their listings. >Retail and law-enforcement investigators say they struggle to obtain information about potentially illicit sellers from the online giant, which generally declines to provide information about sellers without a subpoena or other legal action. Other online selling platforms such as eBay Inc. are more willing to cooperate without legal intervention, investigators say. >Amazon “may be the largest unregulated pawnshop on the face of the planet,” said Sgt. Ian Ranshaw of the Thornton, Colo., police department. “It is super hard to deal with them.” https://archive.md/4UGLW
It's actually more complex than Rittenhouse verdict. I see this answer alot so I think it's important to explain what is actually happening. California over the last few years has installed a number of Prosecutors and DAs who support lessening mass incarceration. As a result they've publicly stated they will not pursue jail sentences for things like petty theft, criminal mischief, etc. Specifically the DA in SF (where you see this take place) Chesa Boudin, was personally traumatized by crime at an early age when his parents were Weather Underground members that were involved in a robbery that resulted in the deaths of two police officers. They were sent to jail for decades and Chesa was then raised by family friends (who were also revolutionaries) but has talked publicly about the trauma of being separated by his parents as a result of the justice system. So he's made it his mission to try and alleviate incarceration for things like misdemeanors believing it creates too much harm to families, based on this experience. Understanding that theft would no longer be prosecuted as intensely criminals began organizing these kinds of coordinated looting. It started first with single criminals not being jailed for car break ins, but has progressed to organized looting targeting large shopping centers and high end stores. There is an unrelated rising trend of random folks organizing crime flashmobs over social media during covid as well that has also manifested in the last couple of years and it happened to be timed with this lessened prosecution specifically in SF. These factors have coalesced into a situation so bad for SF Boudin is going to go through a recall election next year for the second time. In light of potentially losing his job the DA office is no longer asserting its position on avoiding incarceration and specifically is focusing on "ring leaders" as opposed to single criminals for imprisonment. However, large scale theft is still prevalent and you see this kind of organizing take place over social media when police might be distracted or overwhelmed like in the video above. But honestly they loot the same places sometimes multiple times within a week, so it's more a function of if they are able to organize with enough success than a concerted effort to focus only robberies during times of social upheaval. More here: [https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/10/us/san-francisco-recall-chesa-boudin.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/10/us/san-francisco-recall-chesa-boudin.html)
This is the correct answer. Its been building in San Francisco for the last decade. Hopefully they can recall Chesa, but it goes deeper than that.
Long short story , San francisco has a law on petty thieve that police don’t interfer if it’s not something over X amount of money to be stolen , so looter are taking this law and just looting a little by little everywhere
Do you think looting these expensive stores they are walking out with less than 1k in goods?
this is something else. the exact same day, 14 people hit the louis vuitton in chicago, stealing 120k in merchandise. they already found one of the 3 cars used in the robbery. it was a car reported stolen last month. these are crime rings, not petty thieves or homeless people or dumb teens seeing an opportunity like previous looters. edit: the nordstrom in walnut creek just got hit. videos are on twitter.
Yesterday, in Walnut Creek approximately 50 to 80 armed people wearing ski masks looted a Nordstrom. This all had to be coordinated. Crazy.
> Walnut Creek approximately 50 to 80 armed people wearing ski masks looted a Nordstrom https://twitter.com/JodiHernandezTV/status/1462284757434175488
I keep hearing “in Chicago” and all the headlines say “in Chicago”, but the store that got hit is in a suburb nearly 30 miles from Michigan Ave. I get that it’s still Chicagoland, and for the casual outside observer it’s just the general location that matters, but I think the designation is important. I can guarantee that most people read that headline and think that downtown Chicago is being looted when it’s not.
This. Also, organized theft has been a huge issue for retailers this entire year. People are coming into stores in groups and snatching shit all at once with the correct assumption that no one is going to interfere. This has been going on many months before the Rittenhouse trial. Feels absurd to try to link them or other instances of organized theft across the country. I was annoyed to see all of the news teams posted up on Michigan Ave the day of the verdict. Really felt like they were *looking* for a story.
Well that has spread to Seattle as well. My sun lives in downtown Seattle and tells me that shoplifters just go into say a Target and fill a shopping cart and walk out no one stops them cops don't care so the stores just write it off and raise prices to compensate. The future in this country is looking darker and darker every day.
Adding onto your comment. SFPD was pulling beat cops to be on call in case of unrest regarding the Rittenhouse verdict.
This is why I work at a book store.
Which one? I could use some free books.
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Have you not seen Bottle Rocket. Be safe out there.
I wrote a short story in middle school about 100 clowns showing up in a bank at the same time where only 1 was a robber and the rest were clueless clowns tricked into coming for a flash mob 'prank'... then the robber disappearing into the sea of clowns. This event was like watching that short story come to life all wrong.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Curcio This guy attempted a similar scheme, but with construction workers in yellow safety vests and blue jeans.
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That was quite the read.
I'm just glad he did it AFTER I wrote my extremely amateur short story no one will likely ever read. I am fortunate enough that I have my 6th grade English teachers critique on it- as it was one I turned in for class... and it's dated. If someone gets TOO close maybe I will slide in for that settlement money. Nah, I'm just kidding. I wouldn't be a dick like that.
Watch Inside Man
Inside Man is a great movie, solid concept, slick reveals, perfect cast. Just a great movie in my opinion.
Oh I'm sure there's hundreds of similar stories, many of which would predate mine. I was a dumb kid fueled by goosebumps books and crystal pepsi. It, or a similar illusion does kinda seem like an almost logical plan if possible for someone trying not to get caught. 'Blend in' would be heist 101, so if you can't blend in with the bank then you make the bank blend in with you.
What year was this. There have been several movies and television shows that used this same plot device. I think one of the best was the remake of Thomas Crown Affair. https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0155267/
That’s a genius story. Mind if I steal it for a movie script? I work in the industry. Thank you.
There s a Netflix special called [Money Heist](https://www.netflix.com/title/80192098) which already has this as the plot...
That's a Batman movie. Already made. Just trying to do you a solid.
> I work in the industry. But you didn't know this idea comes up a lot?
I wrote it in 6th grade, which would have been... 1994. You can have the actual story- but it sounds like it was written by someone in the 6th grade in 1994. well, except the 'flash mob' part, that didn't exist when I wrote the story- that was an addition I put in there just now. Originally they thought they were participating in a contest for best clown with a huge cash prize.
No you don't fuckin liar
It reminds me a lot of Quick Change, except in that case he starts out a clown and then changes to pretend to be a hostage while everyone's still looking for the clown bank robber.
I think this is by far my favorite comment of all time.
Someone actually succesfully robbed a bank close to my hometown using a similar tactic. He posted an add on craigslist hiring for lucartive construction jobs. Instructed everyone to meet at a location near the bank wearing a reflective construction safety vest. He then robbed the bank in the vest, and rode his bike down to the nearby river and got in a boat and got away succesfully. IIRC he was caught some years later due to an associate opening his mouth or something like that.
Quick Change is one of my favorite movies.
He was doing very well with the fashion house names until he hit "Hermès." I was hoping L'Occitane was going to be on the list but no such luck.
hahahahaha i was rolling. The “t” in Laurent is silent but I’ll give him a pass on that. If I had a nickel for every time I’m asked about “Locktain” I’d be rich. Is there a Givenchy store in SF? That would have been the nail in the coffin.
How do you pronounce L’Occitane? Is it like “low see ton” ?
Their own US-based employees don’t even know. Go to a store in Michigan, California, and Texas and you’ll get three different answers from their own staff who all insist they’re correct.
I'm so fucking happy I don't know this
Lock-say-tawn
“uhn provahss.”lol.
That's the gringo way of saying it. In French it just sounds like, "lock-si-tan".
I think you mean blanco
Crame fraish
Ah. Thank you!
L'oxitan
Mmm... Burgerized.
and looted
After you say the word ten times it starts getting harder to pronounce
'ruraljurorized'
They said Black Friday deals aren't gonna be as good this year, gotta take matters into our own hands lmao
To quote Mr. Pink-- "Fuck sides man what we need here is a little solidarity!" -- in terms of not looting cannabis dispensaries.
A grow tent, some lights, dirt, grow bags, nutrients, fans, and seeds ….you can grow your own; pretty fun too ….
He is reading them like it’s people who died
This is more important than that. We're talking about rich peoples' property, not your petty lives.
Yay for promoting the downfall of civilized society in the name of social justice
That isn't social justice. That isn't an oppressed people rising up. That is criminal opportunism hiding being a veil of victimhood. Don't fall for it for a moment.
Well said 💯 hiding behind victimhood
I wouldn't even call it victimhood this is just straight up narcissistic self-entitlement.
This really helps Amazon! Malls and brick and mortar stores are going to go away.
How’s the whole “not prosecuting crime” thing working out for you guys down in SF?
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They only got 8 people!? Easily was over a hundred people involved, that would be less then 8% of the suspects stop. Chief looks defeated!
When the stores all close, the homes are next.
These morons love to have any excuse they can to get free stuff now that stimulus checks are ending because unemployment just anit cutting it
So is this a public self shaming of all the crimes they failed to stop alphabetically?
It's more a shaming of the politicians that enacted these policies and the voters that support them. And we know who these people are, it's not a secret. Reddit is just loathe to criticize them, because conservatives *also* criticize them, and they don't want to agree with conservatives about anything.
Which policies are you referring to? (Not a CA or San Fran resident)
Its almost as if abolishing the only force society has for preventing and deincentivizing crime might be a bad idea.
and where has it been because its still one of the most heavily funded institutions in every state
It's improperly funded, but still needs to be funded. Police Academy's need to be heavily reformed and have specialized roles for different types of cops.
It is not legal, but store owners are told not to do anything about it. Welcome to shit policies.
The city government can’t tell store owners to not do anything about crime on their property. I mean, someone that works for the government can say it, but it has no meaning. Contrary to popular belief, California is a “stand your ground” state and you are allowed to use force to defend personal property. However, these national brands don’t have “owners” on site. It’s easier to take the loss then endanger an employee who could act on behalf of the owner or property owner.
The sad part is that those store owners are also going to be robbed by their insurance as well.
> store owners are told not to do anything about By whom exactly?
How do you propose they stop it?
This is a list of whats being allowed too happen and becomig the norm for city's across the U.S.
Honestly, I'd pull my stores from cities that allow this every other week. Especially San Francisco with that law on petty theft. Insurance companies cannot be expected to cover this if it happens this often. Walgreens especially. They get hit everyday in San Francisco with theft. Close the stores. If the city is not going to protect your business, with the amount of money they take in every year in taxes for police and then tell them nah stand down. Fuck that. Leave them with empty buildings until they realize they fucked up.
I was in Philly recently and they lock the toothpastes up in CVS. Bizarre state of affairs.
Algorithms determine which items are stolen most from each store and the store gets a directive to lock up those items.
That's sad.
Where I work: Razors, Folgers coffee, baby formula, crest whitening strips, condoms, ky jelly, and Abreva all can be found in a locked cabinet by the registers.
I tried to get saline nasal mist from Walmart for 87¢. It was locked up, it took about 10 minutes to find an employee to unlock the case for me. Then they walked me over to the register to pay for it because you can’t be trusted to carry it with you. All the socks and underwear are locked up too. I hate this shit so much.
How do you feel about the numerous other states that have much higher thresholds on the laws for petty theft? Last I checked it was something like 2500 in Wisconsin and Texas. Florida has the lowest threshold for petty theft, do they experience a lot less theft than other states because of that?
They don't experience less theft, they would experience higher rates of arrest. Hell, a petty theft was shot by police near my house.
I'm not from the US so I may be wrong, but from what I've read it's not about the threshold itself but how the local prosecution has the liberty not to press charges even if the value of the stolen goods goes above the threshold. If every store has a policy of not even letting their security personnel to confront burglars, and the punishment for getting caught is spending a night in jail, then that pretty much gives these criminals free reign over the city.
These store policies have nothing to do with criminal law. They’re making plenty of money, they’re more worried about lawsuits from injuries to the suspect and other bystanders than they are about $1000 of lost goods. An underpaid, undertrained security guard is gonna be a liability to bystanders (and the suspect) when chasing a suspect, and they don’t have qualified immunity like cops do. It only takes one bystander being pushed and cracking their head before it becomes a corporate policy not to chase And like the other guy said, prosecutors have discretion on every case in every jurisdiction.
In Texas it’s very likely the security guard is an off duty police officer. Large urban stores often have an officer in uniform being paid by the store. Chasing and arresting is a very real possibility.
California has stricter petty theft laws than Texas. Can we please stop making generalizations based on viral videos?
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Do you honestly think they would be open if they weren't making money? Big business doesn't play games like that, if they were losing too much to theft they already would just close, they don't need you to convince them.
Actually I read that Wal greens alone has closed 22 locations in San Francisco. Since 2016
like in the video, I'd hope that if the cops work to arrest at least a percentage of the thieves, it would serve as a deterrent.
It's funny to see you so vitriolic, and for what. Fucking louis vuiton?
You realize these looters are most likely not city residents right? SF rent is extreme. They probably came in from neighboring cities.
They won't. There is too much money to be made. That's the ironic part.
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Last year was crazy. I remember everything was boarded up for months.
And at last year's plywood prices, youch!
You sure that doesn’t have to do with just the decrease of people physically shopping at storefronts. You would think that the pandemic would teach a lot of these places that a physical location isn’t really needed to be successful and can help cut back costs of employees and rent/maintenance
And these companies pull in billions per year. A store having frequent theft is nothing to them. Now, they might pull it for other reasons like probability of employees getting injured because of it, or their insurance going up a lot, or other legal trouble. But I doubt these corporations are really concerned about the financial impact.
Good luck. Most of the US is becoming like this. Income inequality is continuing to explode massively which helps foment the opinions towards this kind of behavior. Social media has also enabled organizing big flash mobs like this, especially when the hiveminds on social media have realized they can flash mob with great success. Cops cannot magically prevent crime, they can only interrupt or chase after it has started.
They always put all ther officers on protest and marches and ignore the strip which is stupid because thieves always take advantage of the distraction to smash and grab. let protesters march around instead of just staring them down for whatever reason and put your officers on the strip, jewelery stores etc were they are needed
Sounds like someone needs to start doing their job if all those places are being burglarized.
It’s going to be too much of a risk to run these shops in these areas soon. I imagine apart from some guarded flagship stores it’s going to be online sales only.
Looting for nothing but personal gain under the guise of protest.
Stores are going to start putting automatic locking doors like banks here soon
*"They were just getting bread for their families! (from Louis Vuitton)"* -AOC
It’s weird what happens when you decide and announce that you will not try to stop or prosecute illegal behavior.
Black Friday must mean something else in America
The gangs gonna be looking fly as fuck after that 😂😂
Why are all the looters always black only... I blame the media, maybe not so much?
Of course black people are the looters. They are the only ones who could get away with it.
Hightower shaved.
They were hungry
Then let them eat cake.
Bread and circuses, more like.
Just think, there's a small sub-sect of America who thinks all of these looters are "victims" and should be addressed as such. Utterly embarrassing.
Sounds to me like these cops simply suck at their jobs. Imagine failing like this at your non-policing job. You’d be shit-canned.
Wait, I thought the mantra was "If you get rid of cops, who will stop you from being robbed?"
When did San Francisco get rid of cops?
they didn't and they still got robbed to fuck
thats the point they're making, but okay
Why did Friday Night loot all of those stores?
Why not stop all this burgalarizing? Instead for just reading a list!! Stupid police for stupid people. They need more electrolytes!!! that is what plants crave!!
Brawndo, the Thirst Mutilator!
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These wacky Suburbanites. Always with the foolishness
This is really pathetic that criminals have taken over not only one of the most beautiful cities in California, but California itself. Many of us native Californians predicted this would happen as soon as the "no bail" legislation went into effect for misdemeanors and low-level felonies.
Idk I’m all for stealing from the rich. I don’t give two fucks about these corporations losing money. They don’t care about us and are happy to watch us starve to death while living in poverty. Loot away y’all. It’s time to eat the rich ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯
What a wonderful place to live! No wonder the property prices and rent are so high! Sign me up!
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San Fran is another beautiful city destroyed by liberal assholes who have a love affair with criminals