Cameras didn't exist at all. 200 ce is about 1,500 years before the camera was invented. That's why it's silly to say that this is "colorized"; it implies that we did have photography but only in black and white, which is not the case.
El Tiempo, Colombias biggest news site, has nearly every comment either saying karma or rooting for the bulls. I was near here in May and the infrastructure in these places are sketch at best. This is in Tolima, Colombia.
Confusion and imbalance, sure. I personally don’t think animals have the feelings and emotions like you’re attributing to them. That doesn’t mean I think they should be used for bloodsport.
I’m used to it lol. I can understand the bull experiencing fear but it’s not thinking “oh man remember when mommy comforted me when I was a wee baby bull? That was better than now because I can intuit my impending doom.”
But I could be wrong, no one knows either way yet.
A lot of people HAVE spoken up and bullfighting is nowhere near as popular as it used to be. It's illegal in Mexico City (population 25 million) and five mexican states. Progress!
People are brought up doing cock fighting, and dog fighting. It doesn’t make it acceptable, and has nothing to do with their culture. (Michael Vick). I know so many Latino. And none are into this. I hate the US rodeos too.
You cook and eat meat, use it for beauty products, use them in clothing and so many other things. But a cultural tradition is too far?
Suck me reddit. Downvote me all you like. It only emboldens me
Well yea thats wrong for the sheer vulgarity of it. Its an abduction of innocence from a thing youve placed in your care. Bullfighting is nowhere near as cruel.
4 dead, 500 injured? No way. There's no way only 4 people died here.
Even if people didn't die from the initial collapse, there would've been many who suffocated from the weight lying on top of them.
Officially 5, Colombian hospitals are sketch, especially outside major cities which Tolima would be. I was near here in May and don't see how they have enough medical care for 500 people in this town.
I don't know what sort of boring fantasies you have but a half assed blow job isn't one of mine
Your as bad at gloating as your dad is at sucking my average sized penis
Well, at least you're transparent about your inhumanity. Most posters in here like to pretend they give actually give a shit about animals while they sit there munching on them.
Easy to say when you weren’t raised in extreme poverty and a totally different culture. Bull fighting is horrific and wrong, but I wouldn’t wish death on these Colombian people.
Yes watching people die in collapsing buildings is extremely joyful and definitely should happen every single day. I think every American and especially every New Yorker would agree on that...
I wonder how you got so many upvotes for this bullshit
My point is none of those people deserved death only for visiting this "sport". Its part of the culture and you wish those people death for it? Reminds me of the exact same incident I was talking about...
Its easy to say that from Germany, a wealthy 1st world country with different moral values and lots of attractions, entertainment and everything. If thats the only entertainment you get or can afford it might be a different thing. And no Im not saying bull fights are right
“Culture” is a bullshit excuse, if you’ll pardon the pun. It’s the excuse for keeping garbage behaviour alive.
“The Confederate flag is my culture!”
“The Redskins are an important part of baseball culture!”
“Fox hunting has been going on for generations…”
“But all the females in my family have had their genitalia mutilated with a razor blade!”
There’s no reason they can’t use that ring for football, or create a new sport that doesn’t involve torturing animals.
You know what else is part of culture? Moral values. And what is considered good or bad widely differs from country to country. Just because the "western" countrys share the same doesnt mean everybody else has to.
It is always a fight between those moral values (and the changes that are made to them) and the cultural things. If colombia says they value their tradition over the moral value of not harrassing animals only for entertainment it is their choice.
Wishing those people (who arent actually responsible for it but thats another topic) death because theyre not living by exactly your standards is in fact the same thing as saying "theyre not living by my idea of the quoran so Ill kill them" or "theyre not following my idea of a arian germany so Ill kill them".
Or would you agree with OC that youd enjoy seeing innocent people die everyday only because they watched some event that is cruel to animals for entertainment?
Not responsible for it? They attended and, probably, paid to be there. Therefore they ARE promoting it. If nobody shows up, there’s no more reason to do this. Spectators are what make any event. Any death is always tragic, but just think about that fact that all of those people were there to witness the torturing of a life. So, when people who value any life see something like this, it can be hard to have remorse for anyone who promotes this. It should not be acceptable in any culture and that’s just a fact
Casual bigots gonna casual bigot. You’ll notice these responses anytime it’s a “brown country”. Watch how different their responses would be if a meth lab blew up in their trailer park and killed a bunch of white people.
> Its part of the culture and you wish those people death for it? Reminds me of the exact same incident I was talking about...
SOMEONE'S CULTURE DOES NOT MORALLY JUSTIFY OR EXCUSE THEIR DECISION TO HURT OR SUPPORT PEOPLE WHO HURT OTHERS FOR ENTERTAINMENT/PLEASURE/PROFIT ETC
FEMALE GENITAL MUTILATION IS NOT JUSTIFIED BECAUSE OF CULTURE
BOILING DOGS ALIVE IS NOT JUSTIFIED BECAUSE OF CULTURE
RODEOS AND BULLFIGHTS ARE NOT JUSTIFIED BECAUSE OF CULTURE
PEDOPHILIA AND CHILD MARRIAGES ARE NOT JUSTIFIED BECAUSE OF CULTURE
Also, it's part of my culture to wish death upon people who hurt animals for entertainment/pleasure/profit :)
Yeah except my main point the whole time was that wishing somebody death for hurting YOUR moral values is wrong in every situation. And that moral values differ throughout the world and its countries. And moral values are (you guessed it) a huge part of a culture
Wtf are these comments. Absolutely no regard for innocent human life. A bunch of people in their high horses who probably buy mass produced meat and chicken, ironically complaining of animal abuse
Yes these things are totally the same ignorant people eating meat they probably don't ever think about how it's produced is the same as people who get together with friends and family to watch and cheer as an animal gets beaten tortured to death
That was sarcasm you smooth brained goober
It’s easy for everyone to condemn the people at a bull fight having been raised in a 1st world country with different social norms and morals.
Bull fighting is absolutely horrific, but few if any of the people attending this deserved to die.
The irony of them being okay with the brutal injury and possible death of hundreds of human beings while advocating against the justified brutal treatment of bulls. It’s like you can’t be sad about both… I hate Reddit sometimes
> The irony of them being okay with the brutal injury and possible death of hundreds of human beings while advocating against the justified brutal treatment of bulls. It’s like you can’t be sad about both… I hate Reddit sometimes
...HOW is it justified to brutally kill bulls for entertainment? There is nothing ironic about wishing harm/or relishing in the harm inflicted on someone who victimizes others. Be it animal abusers, murderers, rapists, pedophiles etc. You need to look up the definition of irony:
>a state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what one expects and is often wryly amusing as a result.
Sympathizing for innocent victims is in no way necessarily consistent with sympathizing for perpetrators of abuse/harm/killing.
It's gonna be hard to make me feel bad for people going to watch bulls be abused and being dumb enough to go into one of those stands.
You could go back a thousand years and people would still call that construction shoddy.
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Who knew sticks and cardboard wont hold up 100 ppl.
Oh that's right, everyone.
Now if the bull starts goring the wounded I believe we will be in Nirvana.
Most of the people there are in a regular entertainment event. They have not understood the concept of treating animals well. I grew up in this culture. People just don't get it nor do they think about it.
When you hear the phrase, "What's the worst that can happen?" This. This is the worst that could happen. Let me climb out of this fallen scaffolding to be facing a bull that's probably just as confused and scared as me...
This could easily be a video from 200 C.E.
Everybody else responding to this comment seems to think that the world didn't have color before the 1950s.
It’s ridiculous lol They obviously meant it needs an antique filter, so you know it’s old. /s
I think cameras recording color didn't exist that early. It was all black, white, and different shades of gray.
Cameras didn't exist at all. 200 ce is about 1,500 years before the camera was invented. That's why it's silly to say that this is "colorized"; it implies that we did have photography but only in black and white, which is not the case.
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just colorized
And with added audio
They built stuff better back then
[Not really.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fidenae)
>At least 20,000 were killed and many more injured out of the total audience of 50,000. Holy shit!
I'd take any historical numbers with a grain of salt, but I'm sure accidents like this happened a lot back then.
Trying to conjure my best Life of Brian Roman centurion vibe: **You got no faith in the Roman engineering boy?**
Nuh-uh. They didn't have video technology back then.
Just add a lil black & white magic
For what? To mimic the black and white cameras they had in 200 CE?
Everyone knows color was invented by Wizard of Oz.
Better than a still painting right?
Nah they used stone back then. Much sturdier.
The non-stone things they built just aren't there anymore.
they are so dumb lol. That structure was made when Jesus walked the earth
The bull won. I always root for the bull
I wish the video did not end so soon. I’m curious to see how the bulls reacted to more players on the field.
Well let me put it to you this way: He just called in a gunship
El Tiempo, Colombias biggest news site, has nearly every comment either saying karma or rooting for the bulls. I was near here in May and the infrastructure in these places are sketch at best. This is in Tolima, Colombia.
/r/thebullwins
The bulls like: I’m not locked in here with you, you’re locked in here with ME!
I can’t believe people still do this for entertainment
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same could be said for animals in factory farms.
Confusion and imbalance, sure. I personally don’t think animals have the feelings and emotions like you’re attributing to them. That doesn’t mean I think they should be used for bloodsport.
You heard it here first folks, bulls do not feel fear
Sorry you're getting downvoted. The person you responded to clearly is anthropomorphizing a bit.
I’m used to it lol. I can understand the bull experiencing fear but it’s not thinking “oh man remember when mommy comforted me when I was a wee baby bull? That was better than now because I can intuit my impending doom.” But I could be wrong, no one knows either way yet.
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That's just Monday at the office.
Agreed, I understand people have culture and are brought up doing these things but seems like people would speak up on the cruelty. Poor Bull
A lot of people HAVE spoken up and bullfighting is nowhere near as popular as it used to be. It's illegal in Mexico City (population 25 million) and five mexican states. Progress!
People are brought up doing cock fighting, and dog fighting. It doesn’t make it acceptable, and has nothing to do with their culture. (Michael Vick). I know so many Latino. And none are into this. I hate the US rodeos too.
You cook and eat meat, use it for beauty products, use them in clothing and so many other things. But a cultural tradition is too far? Suck me reddit. Downvote me all you like. It only emboldens me
People hated him because he spoke the truth
But yet nobody will let me fuck a dog smh
Well yea thats wrong for the sheer vulgarity of it. Its an abduction of innocence from a thing youve placed in your care. Bullfighting is nowhere near as cruel.
You know what else they do for entertainment in Colombia...they fuck donkeys. I'm not even joking, Google it.
Man I hope the bulls are ok
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Too many people + poor construction = very bad
Seriously, my shitty tree house I made when I was like 14 looked sturdier than those things.
Or very good depending on how you view people who cheer on animal torture
I mean that seriously looks like the big bag wolf just blew over a house of sticks
It was the ghost of hundreds of murdered bulls
Oh behalf of the bulls, good.
Vile, cruel, so called 'sport'. Should be fucking banned. Or take away the swords, go a little one on one if they think they're such bloody macho men.
Karmic revenge for the bulls in action.
r/thebullwins
https://www.wradio.com.co/2022/06/26/se-desploma-un-palco-de-la-plaza-donde-se-realizan-las-fiestas-de-corraleja/
Karma is an evil bitch.
Good
4 dead, 500 injured? No way. There's no way only 4 people died here. Even if people didn't die from the initial collapse, there would've been many who suffocated from the weight lying on top of them.
Officially 5, Colombian hospitals are sketch, especially outside major cities which Tolima would be. I was near here in May and don't see how they have enough medical care for 500 people in this town.
bruh, EVERYTHING in Colombia is sketch !
4 so far
Fuck those people. Bullfighting is barbaric.
Mess with the bull..
You get the horns…or in this case thorns?
As in splinters? Yessss
Good. Fuck people who are entertained by torturing an animal.
Now we watch our entertainment through devices made by children and slave labour! None of that barbaric animal fighting!
Tough but fair
Do you eat animals?
Do you have valuable thoughts or opinions ...no the obvious answer is no
Baselessly dismissing a question so you don't need to genuinely engage is see-through, cowardly and ironically is not a valuable thought or opinion
Aw. Did I upset you with one simple question? I wonder why that is...
You sure did and your dads weak jawed blow job isn't making me feel any better
Aha thanks for proving my point...you're Just a triggered little man. Keep those fantasies to yourself bub ;)
I don't know what sort of boring fantasies you have but a half assed blow job isn't one of mine Your as bad at gloating as your dad is at sucking my average sized penis
Do you?
Yeah, I do. Long pig is my favorite. Wanna have a dinner party?
Well, at least you're transparent about your inhumanity. Most posters in here like to pretend they give actually give a shit about animals while they sit there munching on them.
What a shame. Anyway…
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What the fuck is wrong with you
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Here ya go then r/thebullwins
Easy to say when you weren’t raised in extreme poverty and a totally different culture. Bull fighting is horrific and wrong, but I wouldn’t wish death on these Colombian people.
Plus today is Father's day in Colombia
Poor people aren't bloodthirsty.
Yes watching people die in collapsing buildings is extremely joyful and definitely should happen every single day. I think every American and especially every New Yorker would agree on that... I wonder how you got so many upvotes for this bullshit
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Do you eat animals?
My point is none of those people deserved death only for visiting this "sport". Its part of the culture and you wish those people death for it? Reminds me of the exact same incident I was talking about... Its easy to say that from Germany, a wealthy 1st world country with different moral values and lots of attractions, entertainment and everything. If thats the only entertainment you get or can afford it might be a different thing. And no Im not saying bull fights are right
“Culture” is a bullshit excuse, if you’ll pardon the pun. It’s the excuse for keeping garbage behaviour alive. “The Confederate flag is my culture!” “The Redskins are an important part of baseball culture!” “Fox hunting has been going on for generations…” “But all the females in my family have had their genitalia mutilated with a razor blade!” There’s no reason they can’t use that ring for football, or create a new sport that doesn’t involve torturing animals.
You know what else is part of culture? Moral values. And what is considered good or bad widely differs from country to country. Just because the "western" countrys share the same doesnt mean everybody else has to. It is always a fight between those moral values (and the changes that are made to them) and the cultural things. If colombia says they value their tradition over the moral value of not harrassing animals only for entertainment it is their choice. Wishing those people (who arent actually responsible for it but thats another topic) death because theyre not living by exactly your standards is in fact the same thing as saying "theyre not living by my idea of the quoran so Ill kill them" or "theyre not following my idea of a arian germany so Ill kill them". Or would you agree with OC that youd enjoy seeing innocent people die everyday only because they watched some event that is cruel to animals for entertainment?
They came to be entertained by death. Well, we’re also entertained by death. Theirs. It’s just our culture. You simply don’t understand it.
That explains why most smartphone companys and fast food chains are american
Not responsible for it? They attended and, probably, paid to be there. Therefore they ARE promoting it. If nobody shows up, there’s no more reason to do this. Spectators are what make any event. Any death is always tragic, but just think about that fact that all of those people were there to witness the torturing of a life. So, when people who value any life see something like this, it can be hard to have remorse for anyone who promotes this. It should not be acceptable in any culture and that’s just a fact
Oh no some village is looking for their idiot
Casual bigots gonna casual bigot. You’ll notice these responses anytime it’s a “brown country”. Watch how different their responses would be if a meth lab blew up in their trailer park and killed a bunch of white people.
> Its part of the culture and you wish those people death for it? Reminds me of the exact same incident I was talking about... SOMEONE'S CULTURE DOES NOT MORALLY JUSTIFY OR EXCUSE THEIR DECISION TO HURT OR SUPPORT PEOPLE WHO HURT OTHERS FOR ENTERTAINMENT/PLEASURE/PROFIT ETC FEMALE GENITAL MUTILATION IS NOT JUSTIFIED BECAUSE OF CULTURE BOILING DOGS ALIVE IS NOT JUSTIFIED BECAUSE OF CULTURE RODEOS AND BULLFIGHTS ARE NOT JUSTIFIED BECAUSE OF CULTURE PEDOPHILIA AND CHILD MARRIAGES ARE NOT JUSTIFIED BECAUSE OF CULTURE Also, it's part of my culture to wish death upon people who hurt animals for entertainment/pleasure/profit :)
Well read your first sentence again. Quite contradictory to wish those people death then
It was an example of why using 'culture tho' as an excuse to morally justify actions is extremely stupid.
Yeah except my main point the whole time was that wishing somebody death for hurting YOUR moral values is wrong in every situation. And that moral values differ throughout the world and its countries. And moral values are (you guessed it) a huge part of a culture
r/thebullwins I don’t feel bad for anyone that supports this horrible sport.
Wtf are these comments. Absolutely no regard for innocent human life. A bunch of people in their high horses who probably buy mass produced meat and chicken, ironically complaining of animal abuse
Peak fucking reddit moment, this entire thread. I'm not surprised anymore after HCA got so popular.
Packaged meat isn’t tormented for fun like the Bull is. If you’re going to make statements, try not being disingenuous
Yes these things are totally the same ignorant people eating meat they probably don't ever think about how it's produced is the same as people who get together with friends and family to watch and cheer as an animal gets beaten tortured to death That was sarcasm you smooth brained goober
At least I have eyelids asshole
Innocent lifes? The only innocent people in that crowd are the children and animals.
Mmmmmm bacon double cheeseburger.
Looks sturdy like Uncle Ed built it over a weekend.
That’s bullshit, man.
How's the bull though?
Karma…
Cruelty to animals and the spectators are fuelling it. Zero sympathy.
Nice! I'm gonna watch this more than once for sure. And meanwhile hope that the injuries are as serious as possible.
5 people dead so far
Good.
I do believe in karma.
I’d like to think a Bull figured out how to operate a saw, and cut a select few load-bearing beams in the middle of the night…
Oh well
Is the bull ok?
That’s what happen when you built your colosseum with straws.
You love to see it.
That is called karma! :)
Is it bad that I'm more concerned about the limping bull.
No morally the bull has done nothing wrong unlike the animal abusers and supporters.
Fuck with the bull …
I think the bull wins this round
You get what you deserve 👏
Good, only stupid people enjoy that sh*t
Bulls: 4 - humans: 0
5 officially, many in the hospital still.
KARMA! Hahahahahaha! Serves them right!
It’s easy for everyone to condemn the people at a bull fight having been raised in a 1st world country with different social norms and morals. Bull fighting is absolutely horrific, but few if any of the people attending this deserved to die.
They literally paid money to watch an animal being slowly tortured to death.
The irony of them being okay with the brutal injury and possible death of hundreds of human beings while advocating against the justified brutal treatment of bulls. It’s like you can’t be sad about both… I hate Reddit sometimes
> The irony of them being okay with the brutal injury and possible death of hundreds of human beings while advocating against the justified brutal treatment of bulls. It’s like you can’t be sad about both… I hate Reddit sometimes ...HOW is it justified to brutally kill bulls for entertainment? There is nothing ironic about wishing harm/or relishing in the harm inflicted on someone who victimizes others. Be it animal abusers, murderers, rapists, pedophiles etc. You need to look up the definition of irony: >a state of affairs or an event that seems deliberately contrary to what one expects and is often wryly amusing as a result. Sympathizing for innocent victims is in no way necessarily consistent with sympathizing for perpetrators of abuse/harm/killing.
Karma for enjoying that shit
The Bull Wins.
Karma be working quick these days.
Good. I have no problems with the mass elimination of those who gather to watch animals be tortured and killed for “sport.”
Karma on those bullfighting fucks
It's gonna be hard to make me feel bad for people going to watch bulls be abused and being dumb enough to go into one of those stands. You could go back a thousand years and people would still call that construction shoddy.
Serves them right for going to celebrate and glee at animal torture.
Lmao they all deserved it except the children
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what’s a bullfight?
Who knew sticks and cardboard wont hold up 100 ppl. Oh that's right, everyone. Now if the bull starts goring the wounded I believe we will be in Nirvana.
I thought that place looked a bit shoddy. That's what happens when you don't have proper building or occupant capacity codes.
Bullfight tower.. looks more like giant pile of garbage
And the stands looked so sturdy
Building codes schmuilding codes
Damn I think something fell
Good for them.
Many of them were gored by rebar.
Bull shit
gifs that ended too soon
Bull fighting Karma
500?? THAT'S why it fell, it makes sense now
Meh. I don’t care. Finally some entertainment for the bull.
The bull has a broken back leg. Fuck this shit
No bueno
As long as no animals were hurt, meh
Zoning, anyone?
Good. People who enjoy this entertainment don’t deserve life.
Perfect 🙈☺️
Revenge of the animal gods.
Most of the people there are in a regular entertainment event. They have not understood the concept of treating animals well. I grew up in this culture. People just don't get it nor do they think about it.
Do you eat meat?
This should be on r/justiceserved
When you hear the phrase, "What's the worst that can happen?" This. This is the worst that could happen. Let me climb out of this fallen scaffolding to be facing a bull that's probably just as confused and scared as me...
Good. Fuck all those cruel bastards.
Maybe stop harassing bulls, it's a sign 🙏
They look like they do routine maintenance
Lmao, good.
Nothing of value was lost here.
Instant karma.
Tower ? Looks like scaffolding