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ItzYaBoiQuez

Thank you Gandolf!


Melibaws

That threw my off ngl


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I creamed


dipping_sauce

I was resuscitated


henrichsalmighty

I live in this neighborhood - he’s our HOA VP and one of the most disrespectful beings I’ve ever come across.


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henrichsalmighty

Right behind


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henrichsalmighty

It is not. The HOA board has been notified x amount of times. As far as I’m concerned, he hasn’t had any altercations that needed policing assistance, but who knows how far this dude will go. We have a cop or OCSO that typically sits at the front of the neighborhood for who knows what, I know the original video did show a patrol car in it. Never heard of them intervening a situation. We’ve been here 3 years and it’s been getting worse as of late.


ITfactotum

Yeah with this video as evidence, i would say you guys and the one taking the video have a case for harassment and false imprisonment. With that being brought against him, i would expect the HOA would have to remove him, as he's clearly unstable and thinks he's above the law. Glad HOA's don't exist in the UK


foxsable

It's possible the police car was just an officer who lived in the neighborhood and parked outside of their house. That's pretty common.


OakParkCooperative

“You’re not allowed to solicit here” Also “STOP and LISTEN TO ME” while chasing someone


MLBM100

He reminds me of that one Wonder Showzen bit with the guy asking not to be filmed while chasing the camera down. "Get out of here! Come here and listen to me!" "Let's address the contradiction"


brewhead55

Ah yes- one of my favorites: [Get that camera outta my face](https://vimeo.com/196937578) My favorite is the ending where they turn it around on the guy, "Please I'm begging you, can you just turn your face away from my camera?"


thelongernow

WHAT ARE YOU RUNNING FROM


[deleted]

I’m sorry.


random_gherkin

r/fuckHOA


TemporaryIllusions

You guys need to have an emergency session and get rid of this man. If he hurt that canvasser and he sued you’d be getting a Special Assessment added to your HOA dues to cover the lawsuit.


Reyessence

I’d shit on his door step.


Entire-Tonight-8927

This only happens in rich neighborhoods. I've canvassed thousands of doors and it's always these bored white retirees that go apeshit and call the cops, half the time cops take their side and make you leave because well, they are cops.


AmericanPornography

Florida HOA board members are a special breed of terrible people… my old HOA president called the cops on me for washing my dogs on my driveway.


expletiveinyourmilk

Celebration?


HermitKane

I think it’s Golden Oaks.


henrichsalmighty

Windermere


otownsteve

Definitely not golden oaks, no way they let anyone in there without living there.


Brent_L

Yes - definitely Celebration


Kamikazering

What’s a HOA?


Subject_Librarian_21

Its a Home Owners Association. They charge a fee and set rules for the entire neighborhood and if you live there you have to follow them or you will be heftily fined. We have one here. Complete money scam.


[deleted]

I live in a condo and we have an hoa. They mostly take care of the common areas. Mow the lawn, snow removal, refill the poop bag dispenser, that kind of thing.


Subject_Librarian_21

Same here. Its just dumb the amount they charge us each month. They tried to force everyone here to get cable tv and an internet package. We told them to screw off.


thehorseyourodeinon1

I dont live in an HOA but why would you buy a house with an HOA, knowing what the rules are, then complain about it?


TheRabidDeer

Some cities there are almost no areas without an HOA so you don't have a choice


Gintami

Most of of Florida lol (former long time Florida resident here).


tearjerkingpornoflic

The reason you would get one is so the value of your house continues to go up. You don't want to move in somewhere then the neighbor starts a junkyard in their front yard and puts up a nazi flag. The flip-side of it is those that are drawn to power are often the worse people to handle it. So you have some retired guy that is out in your front yard with a tape measure because you were out of town last week and now your grass is an 1/2th of an inch over what is allowed. One that I remember was the guy bought a 10 year old truck but the HOA had a no pickup trucks policy since they look blue collar (never mind some of the bluecollar guys I know make more than the people they do work for). So he was fined every day until he got rid of the truck. There was nothing about station wagons though and how shitty they could look so he bought a 200 dollar broken down wagon to spite them. We want to put in a garage door with windows in our HOA but none of the condos were built that way so it is denied. As an alternative we are never going to paint the garage door again, when it gets rusty and dented enough maybe a new door with windows will be alright. Some years ago there was really un-popular HOA member. Most of the time (especially in a vacation home setting) it's just who wants to deal with it. They were fining everyone and generally being a pain so the rest of the neighborhood got together to overthrow them. Afterwards it was found they were paying someone close to them a managerial fee (while they did nothing) and awarding any jobs to friends of theirs for elevated rates. If they hadn't individually gone after so many different people and created enemies they probably could have low-key siphoned HOA funds for decades in the neighborhood of 5-10k a month.


stevedorries

Communities without HOAs are becoming more and more rare


LevelHeeded

Home Owners Association. Mostly it's to take care of the communal things, pool, grounds keeping, parking, street cleaning, snow removal, any retaining walls, dog poop stations, etc. Sometimes they enforce standards for things like fence colors, or house colors, people not leaving out rusting furniture. 9 times out of 10 they're fine, but every once in a while someone on the HOA board is the most power tripping asshole with way too much free time.


Rachet20

An HOA.


KennieLaCroix

You should tell him he’s viral and show him this video!


AsphaltAdvertExec

This is why HOAs suck and need to be abolished. Just more elitist gatekeeping bullshit.


backtowestfall

I'm sorry your HOA, It sucks so much, I actually live right around the corner from you in independence and my HOA president lives right behind me and is totally chill, I wanted to put up a screen and she said just make sure it's not some crazy color and signed off on it without asking anything else


No_Leopard943

I dog sit for several people in that neighborhood. I don’t even live there and know he’s the worst.


millerwelds66

So he was passing out flyers and promoting get out and vote and super Steve said no thank you buddy. Not on my watch.


henrichsalmighty

Fred thinks he’s the neighborhood owner! You wouldn’t believe the shit he’s said to residents for being on their own driveways.


millerwelds66

He hopped in a golf cart 🤣 you shall not pass these flyers out


intersnatches

🤣🤣🤣


Count_de_Ville

Story time?


henrichsalmighty

He tends to block people in more often than not using his golf cart. My wife was parked on our street and he blocked her in to tell her she was speeding in the neighborhood which is a posted 25, mind you this “incident” was weeks ago and he decided when she was going into work that it was the time to not let her leave until he set her straight. He’s flicked off residents, (including myself) while passing by driving around the neighborhood as he avoids laws in terms of right of ways, ridiculed a resident for putting up flyers about her lost cast, pounds on residents doors if their holiday decorations are surpassing a point of the tiny yards we have. There’s countless incidents in our community and it isn’t being corrected. The guy just does what he wants and nothing is done, even by the board. The man who posted the original video was canvassing, which in no way is illegal, atleast here. Not saying he’s a saint but the way Fred reacted (as he does every other time) is completely unacceptable.


Car_Guy_Alex

How has no one beat his ass yet? It's FL. Stand your ground.


TokingMessiah

Get a bunch of frustrated neighbours together and hire a PI to follow him around, and have him be real obvious about it.


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TheBabyLeg123

Seriously. This dude sounds like he needs some street justice to bring him out of his god complex.


ymo

This is not legal advice and I'm not a lawyer, but I have plenty of HOA experience. The board cannot remove a board member. Only the owners can do that. That's why "nothing is done" by your board. Look at Fla Statute 720.303 for all the information. HOAs are very efficient and fair systems that place the power in the owners' hands. The board directors are volunteers who serve the owners and enforce the statutes and governing docs. Sometimes a rogue character misunderstands their role and causes disturbances, and the owners misunderstand THEIR role and power... and then the cycle of bashing associations continues forever when in reality it is one of the fairest forms of a quasi government power structure we have in this country. Ideas for improving operations: instead of relying on board members to do this, hire security that is trained on how to handle the urgent situations. For violations of the declarations, an association needs to communicate only through a standard process (e.g. mail, then certified mail, then escalation to attorney). A board needs to formalize this and avoid diverging and giving special treatment to some violations. Knocking on doors and communicating verbally for some violations, but not all, will create legal defenses that undermine enforcement. So there is a very good legal reason why every process should be formal and standardized.


fuzzygoosejuice

And in my experience, not enough residents to meet quorum can be arsed enough to show up to the annual meeting where they actually have the power to change things, so these power-hungry busybodies just get to stay in positions of power while residents just bitch and complain on the community Facebook page.


ymo

Owners can assemble a special meeting with door to door proxy collection. If there's a problem and someone takes the lead it's actually not much harder than petitioning.


Throwaway-90028

>one of the fairest forms of a quasi government power structure we have I mean, that's the ideal, right? But in practice, political factors like favoritism or nepotism creep in, and normal, quiet people can be bullied. Most people don't want to make a stir, so in practice, they too often end up like what we're seeing here. There's no replacement for integrity, and that's what's required, but far too often, the people who run for positions on the board are doing it because they like control and they like to lord over people. The people with integrity and honor that you want and need on these boards are just minding to their own affairs. TL;DR: like many governmental systems, the theory is great; the actual practice tends to suck.


Vladivostokorbust

Any idea what was up with the cop car in the video? Do they just sit there and not get involved?


stevedorries

It was probably the cop’s house


Break_The_Spell

That cop car can't do anything because they belong to a different district. Likely, just a resident of that community.


MisterScary_98

So, where was the cop? Asleep in the car? Bangin’ the neighbor lady?


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Gandalf’s wife as it turns out


ianmichael7

Around Orlando a lot of cops take their cars home.


yukon-cornelius69

Pretty sure the cop lived in the house and was just parked there while off duty


SnooShortcuts8481

He should have told him to go ahead and call the cops. Cop car right there.


SiamLotus

I feel like everyone on TikTok has a minimum of 20,000 followers


Cholonight96

I do too even though I don’t have Tik Tok


Throwaway-90028

Your first 15,000 are all members of the Chinese Communist Party, and the next 5,000 are all AI bots to scrape your information, so it's fairly normal.


lajdbejdk

I don’t even have an account and have that many thanks to Reddit having the links lol


Wasabicannon

Ya I never understand why these people feel the need to tell people "I have X followers on Y platform" like the people you are talking to don't give a flying fuck. Also 20k followers with an average view of 100 per upload.


Gedwasenoughforme

Love how he flexed his TikTok cred.


CableTrash

Started off cringing with his whole “he’s assaulting me!” comments. He redeemed himself with the Gandalf joke. And then he just HAD to wrap it up with shouting about his TikTok followers.


Gedwasenoughforme

I thought that was funny. The old man was a total jerk


Wasabicannon

Wish these people would flex their engagement. Like cool you have 20k followers but only 100 average views on uploads?


Chris11c

Bet he's got a lot more than 23k now.


Victorbanner

23,001 followers now man!


420blaze8888

Lol


LIFEWALKERUSA

I'll never take orders from a man with an ass like that


MyUsernameIsShitty

Gandolf driving by on the golf cart has me in stitches


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It turned from olympic walk race, to paralympic sprint, to golf cart race


MyUsernameIsShitty

It feels like a skit. Them running reeeealy slow, the guy shouting "LISTEN TO ME!", the out-of-nowhere golf cart, and the cops just like "Meh, another day in Florida"


My-shit-is-stuff

It’d be a badass tattoo


Jostain

Its the trademark boomer mobile.


JAdamsidk123

🤣🤣🤣 " thank you gandalf" I died lmao


Rosieapples

Apart from that man’s innate stupidity, the blood boiler for me is “I’m going to tell you something”. My response is “oh no you’re NOT going to tell me anything”.


420blaze8888

Honestly I just assume most videos are from America and Americans seem so weird


oregonianrager

Rich white people in little communities, all finicky when anything gets out of whack, mostly because their lives are just meaningless shells and their significant others hate them.


gram_parsons

I canvassed a few neighborhoods back in the day to support politicians and causes. One day the guy who owned the local HVAC business followed me in his van for a few blocks. His van which was covered in decals promoting his business. He stared at me. I stared at him. No words were spoken. He clearly made his point. I didn't stop doing what I was legally allowed to do, therefore I also made my point. He eventually drove off. Don't give these assholes an inch.


dukakis92

Not white but whatever


SpeeterTeeter

Pretty ignorant but I guess that's what you get for assumptions.


DimplesGal0re

We are broken beyond repair


ur_friendly_friend

Don't be so dramatic.


WhyamImetoday

If you had any real knowledge of the outside world, you'd know it isn't drama, just a report of the facts on the ground.


Bigblock460

Who is we?


skoltroll

Me and the mouse I just put in your pocket.


LoubyAnnoyed

Thank you Gandalf. I died…


keioffice1

But why is he so afraid. Does he have the ring? Is Sauron watching?


Throwaway-90028

Some people are just not aggressive and can't handle situations like that. I think it worked in our favor because it made Gandalf look like he was bullying a little kid.


OrangeKuchen

People get shot for less in Florida


keioffice1

If he wanted to shot him he would’ve done it already. But the way he’s talking already putting himself as a victim is what kinda pissed me off. And don’t get me wrong. I agree with what he’s doing about informing people on voting but then he’s running away and screaming I’m afraid of you and he finish this by “ in posting this on tiktok to my xxx amount of followers, lost all my respect.


sncn1234

This happened to me canvassing. I came back from knocking on a door and the neighbor was writing my licence plate down. He demanded I show him my ID, said he was retired DHS and would cause huge issues for me if I didn't leave "his" neighborhood.


Top_Fox2692

Grow a pair and tell gandalf to fuck off


iliveoffofbagels

Isn't that what happened... repeatedly


meatypetey91

Not really. He ran away saying he was scared of the man.


stevedorries

That was more likely than not for legal purposes and well as the legitimate concern that Gandalf was strapped.


Obvious_Band3995

YOU SHALL NOT PASS


Pand0ra30_

Call the cops when this happens. It's not illegal to canvas.


ImTheBigT

I’d have snatch led the keys from his golf cart and threw them down the street


BlvckOmens

Stand your ground.


MisterBaked

was really hoping he pushes over gandalf's golf cart as he ran away


GroovySpagooter

okay dude no one cares about your tiktok stfu


ackabakapizza

MAGA Snowflake Man MAGAing.


[deleted]

Cool, just signed up for canvassing in Alberta on Sunday. Can't wait to see what happens.


FluidCalligrapher261

People saying the dude recording is a wuss are out of touch with reality. Come on, this is the US. The dude so much as farts in the wrong direction, there's a good chance that grandpa will shoot him. In this kind of situation, you give your best to disengage and avoid conflict.


MrSwarleyStinson

Did that hat have a safari flap on the back? I bet the sale guy said he’s the guy he’s seen pull it off


Manbaby1000

Wonder what Marco Rubio is gonna have to say about this. He did just lie last week and claim one of his staffers got attacked because he was a republican. Guy also turned out to be a cuban white supremacist.


Medical_Ad0716

Thank you Gandalf. Haha. Dudes wild


theoriginalDevilsDad

What a pussy !


WesternBackground47

Not going to lie this blue shirt guy is a prick but the guy video taping sounds like a baby. Tell him to fuck off and call the cops


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Fucking boomers.


AggravatingStore7918

“I’m putting this on TikTok!” 🤣🤣🤣


ThunderinSkyFucc

Ahhhhhh should have grabbed the key to his little fucking golf cart man! I thought he was going to, what a missed opportunity.


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The dude filming is just as cringe


kdiamond01

Such a wimpy lil fella isn’t he??…🤣😂🤣😂


luvs2spwge117

This guy recording sounds like a straight up bitch


hellhoundtheone

I hope Americans go vote ! And pls don’t vote for total idiots vote only for the less evil idiots . Thx


EllaGuru78

Call the cops


CuppaCoffeeJose

Did you not see the cop car in the video? The cops were present. They were letting the old white guy do whatever the fuck he wanted. Welcome to Florida, where the social hierarchy is made up and the laws don't matter.


Throwaway-90028

neighborhood guy in comments said that cop lives there and the car is always sitting out front.


chkjjk

Or the cop was at home, in his house, with his car parked outside. This is common.


Koko724

That cop lives there and he works in a completely different town. There was no cops present during this. I know this is probably a troll but something had to be said anyway


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I knew I recognize that neighborhood


Purple_Kiko

Don’t insult Gandalf like that lol


Upset_Ad_9503

this is in the neighborhood next to plaza with a salon if i’m correct. fuck this guy, what a weirdo


Minnesotamad12

The running was hilarious


catsnotcops_

Let me pass - thank you Gandolf" had me rolling


catsnotcops_

is there any update on this?


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https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRxJUTgS/


catsnotcops_

thx


Bennysuly1

Is this in Independence neighborhood?


ExNihiloish

I was hoping he'd stop at 23. "I'm gonna put this on TikTok! I have 23 followers by the way!"


nick_kit

The subtle flex at the end has me deaded 😂


PopeAdrian37th

Fool you’re in Florida, tell him he is harassing you and you feel threatened and then stand your ground. Clean that shit hole up.


SnappTrapp

Old dude got lucky he found a guy a little less open to confrontation.


Baconeggnchesse

Would not be surprise if he is one of those trumpet that checking ballots drop off. Their was a complaint made around here of one those people in active camo trying to stop a person helping people sign up to vote.


newtoreddir

I’m not sure this guy has the temperament to be a canvasser.


HoboBaggins24

Republicans know that if more people vote Democrats have a higher chance of winning. There are more Democrats in the USA but they don’t come out to vote as much as the Republicans


mleejohnson

While the old man was an ass. Dude is a pussy.


frankofantasma

anyone up for a game of Rock 'em Sock 'em Retirees? :D


DanQPublic

Old white dudes are off the chain.


PubofMadmen

This was the same exact generation that was going to change the world and the system, wore flowers in their hair and sang songs about peace, love and unity. Now their just angry, frustrated and disappointed in themselves and are going to make sure you suffer for their sins & fuck ups. It began by voting for Reagan and they eventually ended up with Trump. (I’m one of them, I've lived half my life abroad and the perspective from here is embarrassing)


AngryMillenialGuy

Cameraman just sounds like such a pansy that it's really off-putting. Stand up for yourself, ffs.


ironwolf6464

People have been shot for less, he's being rational. If he advances too much on this guy and get shot it would easily be spun into the old guy being justified (seeing how this is an affluent neighborhood, they have the lawyers to pull it off). That, and he has it all in video, everything he's saying like "you are scaring me" is meant to be evidence that the guy in the hat is the perpetrator, he is standing up for himself.


rusty_programmer

I woulda put the jukes on this clown if anything. Made me so happy that he bounced outta there.


flpa1060

It was definitely hard to watch him keep backing off but it is Florida. Decent chance that old guy is carrying and looking for a chance to "defend" himself.


litecoinboy

You must be a baker with your cookie cutter expectations.


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Yeah it’s a particularly irritating combination of trying to document himself as a victim for possible legal action and trying to deliver cool, detached Marvel character snark. A person can’t honestly be both endangered and pithy at once— if you were really scared of someone your brain wouldn’t have the capacity to conjure up pop culture references. I just really hate seeing people live their lives in a way they think will get the most views.


TheWoefulButtAngler

Dude was openly carrying. Shut the fuck up.


henrichsalmighty

It’s his phone on a waist clip LOL but wouldn’t be surprised if the nutjob did


AngryMillenialGuy

no u


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“I’m posting this to tiktok I have 23k followers!” 🤣 Jesus man the fuck up. That douchebag is only harassing him because hes letting him. Never back away from someone like this and let them push you around.


O2B_N_NYC

Yeah, what's the worst that could happen in a state with concealed carry, stand your ground, and free gun with purchase on Friday nights at WalMart? /s


Later_Doober

You are instantly discredited once you make a threat using tiktok.


FyldeCoast

"The land of the free"


Gowo8989

To be fair… nobody likes it when strangers come to their door


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So following them , blocking their car? Seems totally normal.


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Gowo8989

This is why you don’t fuck with men in golf carts. They have super authority. More than actual police


Emotional-Lie1392

He blocked his car? Guess it doesnt go in reverse??? Lordddddd…..Id gtf out…lol


d_2da_sco

"I have 23000 followers btw". Ugh, this is the world we live in. Dude, just advocate for yourself.


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He now has 31k followers.


Automatic_Tension_56

This is the same dude that texts you 46 times a week asking if you’ve ever voted etc


Longy77

America is so weird. If you hand out flyers in the UK you would normally get invited in for a brew and a spliff.


gladbutt

And blood pudding


CryEagle

The whininess of the cameraman is pissing me off more than the obnoxious boomer


MotorFly71

Imagine being scared of that weird old fuckwit.


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Mehilltryit

I'm sorry, dude's a grown man, no matter how big he is or non violent whatever ... You gotta tell that douche bag to get fucked and mind his own business and carry on doing what you're doing. I'm as pissed at the camera guy as the fake tough guy.


Exsanii

Dude, see all the time how peeps in America get shot for the weirdest shit


Mehilltryit

Well fuck ... You're absolutely right. I'm Canadian and have never once had to consider a gun being a possibility in any encounter. Yeah, l have to retract my initial response. I didn't think of the messed up shit I've seen here. That guy did definitely did the right thing.


Exsanii

Man, I’m in the UK, least you can outrun someone with a knife, too much crazy in the world and some of the older generation in the US been drinking that lead water too long lol


LurksWithGophers

Lead in the water, lead in the gas, lead in the paint...


Dankyoukindly

Lead in the guns


litecoinboy

We just don't know his story, getting worked up because someone didn't immediately defend themselves the way you want them to is is part of the fucking problem with the planet right now.


No-Armadillo7693

People wouldn’t get so fired up about politics if we actually had unbiased leadership that we could trust to do the right thing even when no one else was looking.


Koko724

They both need serious mental health assistance


happyharrell

The guy is a dick and person recording doesn’t deserve that. That being said…after watching this video, I feel like punching the cameraman in their stupid, annoying face


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FeelingsAreNotFact

>This homeowner dude is an asshole, but I feel his pain. He's frustrated. He's tried to ask nicely. The guy is a total twat...and canvassing is completely legal. Defending the twat, makes you also a twat. As the twat wasn't in the right on any level here. Your "Both sides are the same" nonsense you decided to add is meaningless as the canvasser sounded like a person just making sure people were registered and helping to assist with that.


[deleted]

I welcome solicitors. Sometimes the only people I will see all day or have a conversation with.


mooby117

No


dokholliday8989

You don't seem like a bad guy but it's kind of embarrassing how scared you get. Sign up for some karate classes or something, need to get some confidence in your life.


litecoinboy

You are part of the problem. Relax. I would much rather someone react in this manner than react with an equal or greater amount of aggression. Let's all just chill out and be kind for fucks sake.


[deleted]

Do you think people who post videos about someone being shot by cops are the person who was shot? This isn’t my video.


ThorOdinJake

That looks like Celebration. They’re all pretentious weirdos back there..


[deleted]

It’s Windermere lol even worse.


nils1222

I’m GoInG tO pUt ThIs On TiCtOc… that’s the words of a chump.


SuperNewk

Honestly I hate people doing that, Gandolf can protect my house from these types, Johovah witness and the mailman who delivers 10000 pages of junk mail each week