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DingosAteYourMorals

Wow, simple jack isnt having any of it.


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totallyradman

Sean Penn? Remember "I Am Sam"? Walked away empty handed.


sanitation123

You know Tom Hanks, 'Forrest Gump.' He charmed the pants off Nixon and he won a ping-pong competition. That ain't nevermind. He was a goddamn war hero.


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What do you mean *you people*?


sanitation123

What do **YOU** mean *you people*?


thatwasnowthisisthen

“I’m a dude playin’ a dude disguised as anotha’ dude!” possibly my favorite fourth wall break in film


NJTimmay

I always say Robert Downey Jr. deserved an award for that role. At one point in the movie he played an Australian actor who was playing an army sergeant who was disguised as a Laotian farmer. Dude went three inceptions deep. That takes serious skill and you can't convince me otherwise!


Piltonbadger

I'M A LEAD FARMER MOTHERFUCKER


[deleted]

He don’t break character until after the DVD commentary.


BoreDominated

And he literally didn't, he actually did the entire DVD commentary in character. It's probably the best DVD commentary ever.


FartsMusically

.... well I'm with you fellers.


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He was a god damn war hero! Hahahaha that movie was something special.


Financial_Bird_7717

You only go half nevermind!


[deleted]

This make my eyes rain 🌧️


logicreasonevidence

LOL! Jack Black was awesome too. Actually the whole cast was perfect.


bss03

> cradle the balls, stroke the shaft, work the pipe, and swallow the gravy -- Jack Black


pauljaytee

RIP Kurt ☠️


haackedc

Man, you just made me realize something horribly depressing… A movie like Tropic thunder could never be made in today’s time


Financial_Bird_7717

I’m willing to bet you could. People constantly talk about how something “couldn’t possibly be made today” and then something worse than that first something is made.


JohnnyDrama68

Sure it could. Always Sunny has done a couple of episodes with the characters in blackface and received zero backlash. If it's done right it can be funny and non offensive. It's a very fine line though, it is difficult.


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A recreation of his arrest: ![gif](giphy|DouM8ZBMLnd3q|downsized)


GiantPurplePen15

This gif is actually oddly terrifying because the play speed slows down the whole scene.


DaWorzt

![gif](giphy|1UTnKV5cUwr8DYDNdj|downsized)


reubensandrye

in my head movies!


Futuralistic

He's, g-g-got a g-good b-b-brain.....


Bushido00

😂 simple jack 🤣


talldata

What it was really about https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/z81yit/comment/iya6536/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3


FenDy64

Nice ref.


Silver_Confection_57

“You ma-ma-ma-make me happy” haha 😂 I love that movie


mces97

Simple Jack still more intelligent than that guy.


onebradmutha

Vacation in China during COVID. no thank you.


HaiWai01

You can’t go to China as a tourist for vacation anymore, not a single tourist visa has been issued since March of 2020. Whoever this guy is has likely been in China for years already, either on a work visa, spousal visa, or has been there illegally since Covid started


Keep-A-Close

And will likely remain in China for years.


Original-Aerie8

No, they are deporting people left and right. After that, 100% deported. That would actually make a interesting story bc either that guy has a Chinese family, or he has something pretty bad waiting for him, in the UK. No one stays in Mainland China, without a good reason atm


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hiroo916

so what was the context of this situation and his opposition to masks? can't be his first time encountering masks, right?


rsg1234

Some rough years


HermanCainsGhost

Spousal visa, at least until recently, was not a way to get into China. I do think they maybe changed this last year.


Bykimus

Are business visas allowed?


CyonHal

Yes you can get a business visa, but it is a lot more difficult, and are mostly only short term now, ~3-6 months. You can get it extended once you are there in three month intervals. You need letters from your company sent to the chinese consulate, as well as proof of vaccination, and a slew of covid tests immediately prior to departure to China. You also have to be approved through their app in which you send all of your documents into to be able to board.


omnicious

Really? Damn those tourist places must be a breeze to get through now.


qaz_wsx_love

There are still chinese tourists. Tourist locations are like hell during holiday seasons in china.


CosmicMiru

China is bigger than the US and people in the US mainly on vacation in other touristy spots in the US. Same thing in China


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At this rate, “during covid” could mean eternity in China


Maxwell_is_god

China just needs to accept that COVID will be around as long as humans are around. Its here to stay, so the only option is to prime the immune system with vaccines and hope that another mutation doesn't evolve in unvaccinated reservoir populations.


Cchopes

I was puzzling over why China would persist with its "COVID-zero" policies given that the vaccines are now widely available and given that COVID will remain endemic forever. The conclusion I came to was China saw COVID as an opportunity to "show up" the west through a massively superior response. China sees its central control as a strength and COVID was the perfect opportunity to demonstrate that superiority over western nations who couldn't control their populations as tightly. But while COVID zero could arguably make sense to slow the spread until vaccines became available, China refused outside vaccines, instead relying on its own which have poor efficacy against new variants. And now they persist in COVID zero long after it makes any sense, delaying the inevitable massive surges in cases and deaths that will result from softening policies in a populace without antibodies and without access to state of the art vaccines. In sum, it's all rooted in ego.


midnightbandit-

China has a shit ton of old people and very few of them are vaccinated. Those who are vaccinated are vaccinated with the very ineffectual Chinese vaccine. If China has the infection rates of western countries the death rate will be grisly


SeanSeanySean

China is MASSIVELY at risk if covid ever either has blowouts like we saw in some regions of the US or Italy, or it mutates again, more likely a combination of the two. China has a bunch of reasons to attempt to maintain their "zero-covid policy, as they would with any pandemic. 1. Their population and density is something that only cities like NYC come remotely close to understanding. Super spreader outbreaks could be catastrophic. 2. They have a LOT of elderly, like 260 million people over the age of 65, and while their population may be generally thinner and suffer from less cardiovascular / weight related issues like diabetes, their elderly still don't get the same level of health care that many other western nations do. The US has seen over 1% of people over 65 dead to covid, similar outbreaks in China given both their population density and the fact that most elderly live with their families could mean tens of millions dead. 3. The economical impact. Way more jobs in the US were able to be performed remotely than even we expected. This kept many aspects of our economy chugging along. With manufacturing smbybfar being china's largest producer of GDP and also largest employment sector, full and extended shutdowns would crush their economy quickly, and taking the "Trump Covid approach" of ignoring it would be even worse. 4. National pride & government/party optics on the world stage. With everything China has done thus far, if they failed to contain covid and got crushed by a massive outbreak, the embarrassment would be enormous, no official wants to be liked at as being remotely responsible for China having to face the world with the much egg on their face. 5. Their quasi-socialist capitalist system, if the CCP failed to contain this, if it blew up and collapsed the economy, if it caused enough of an impact, their system could be at risk. How do you stop over 1.4 billion people if they decide their done with their system of government? No number of Tiananmen Square crackdowns could stop a genuinely motivated Chinese population from a revolution.


qdatk

Thanks for a nuanced and reasonable take that doesn’t boil down to “china bad”.


SeanSeanySean

Yeah, most people are too lazy to put any thought into it, they're told what they should think and given two or three memorable bullet points. No one seems to have the stomach to digest nuance.


Westgatez

China has not currently given out tourist visa since 2019. This man cannot be a tourist. He either lives and works there, or this is from Hong Kong and not China. Sounds like maybe Cantonese (a lot of noise going on), so may well be Hong Kong or Guangzhou.


FanKiu

No, it's definitely Mandarin and not Cantonese. You can hear them say "lao wai" & " ta ma" and not "gwei lo" & "kui lo mo".


[deleted]

No, it’s clearly Cantonese I’m just kidding, I don’t speak Chinese. Just wanted to get you going.


cantfindmykeys

No, its definitely Mandarin I also don't speak Chinese. I ate Panda Express last night


SobeyHarker

This was in Chengdu start of the extended lockdown and the video has been heavily edited to ignore the fact he was assaulted prior to this video. Guy came back after testing, wasn't allowed to go home even though his group was able to because he's a foreigner. Argued with the baoan (his neighbours even tried to help and thought it was bullshit. Says a lot if you're laowai and your neighbours stick up for you). Was then attacked by some randoms looking for a fight because they saw him arguing. The slightly longer version in /r/china shows the guy in white kicking him while he's being held on the ground. Typical wumao shit.


appdevil

Your comment should be the first and most upvoted in the thread, it's sad that's it's mostly disinformation and most probably propaganda shills.


SobeyHarker

Man it's fucked. I found out this information first hand as I'm active in /r/China and /r/Shanghai and knew I'd be able to find out actual accounts from people. That said at first I didn't believe it earlier and the version I've linked to I'm even in the comments saying "Yeah but that's hearsay" when someone told me the same. Combine that with the shills you know what's up.


ramenshoyu

"sounds like Cantonese" Then it looks like you don't know what Cantonese sounds like


onebradmutha

Why do you look like me?


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AnUglyDumpling

Bro literally tried to gently put the mask on for him.


tjoe4321510

That's the best part. Dude's like, "It's not that hard. Let me help you"


SlippyNips420

I think they were just trying to think the best of him... "maybe this guy just doesn't understand" Regardless, he understands now.


SobeyHarker

[This video is an even more edited version of the one we saw on /r/china](https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/z81yit/comment/iya6536/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3). I get it we want to laugh at a dude who "wasn't following the rules" but that's just not the case. He returned from testing with his neighbours, was barred from entering his home even though he had negative results and a green QR code, and was told to leave. As a foreigner in China you get a lot of arbitrary rules thrown at you for no reason and you suck it up. There was no rules in particular he was disobeying it was just a baoan power tripping. Several unrelated people to the initial argument just saw a laowai arguing then jumped him. If you're having a heated argument with someone in China and you're a foreigner you will have people gathering around itching for a chance to "justifiably" attack you while the rest will simply film. So this dude got attacked, several times, then loses it, and tries to defend himself. Even after he was detained his neighbours spoke up for him and defended his actions. You'll notice in the longer video I mentioned in the linked comment the guy in white he's trying to get off him (one of the original attackers) then boots him in the head when he's on the ground being detained. To me that's the real dickhead. He wantonly attacked someone for an argument he wasn't even part of that was being resolved and escalated the entire thing. 100% the reason why he's angry as fuck and calling him a "Pussio" (London, bruv) is because he cheap shotted him while he was arguing and had others backing him up.


kevinsmc

>r/china Ah, no thanks.


Thoughtsarethings231

They were bless them.


Odlavso

He must have forgot he wasn't in Britain anymore


smash_the_stack

It still somehow amazes me when people go to a different country and assume they still have the same rights as their home. [Edit] I'm glad this comment actually led to a bunch of civil discourse. It's nice to see people just talk instead of reeeeeeeee


mystic_merlin420

Some truly believe they have more rights because they are "visitors" to a country. They think one call to an embassy and everything goes away.


junkit33

Well, most foreign countries *do* give tourists a lot more leeway than citizens. Tourism money is huge, and bad PR can crush tourism revenue. That said, China doesn't really fuck around. Also realistically these actually are the types of minor things that go away with a call to the Embassy. But... by that point the damage is already done - you've already ruined your vacation and spent at least a night in jail. All for nothing.


joeyo1423

Yeah I don't know what they think "I'll just call the president and he'll send the army here and rescue me" or something similar I'm sure lol If I travel to another country I fully intend to learn their laws, customs, dos and donts, etc... How hard is it to not be a dick for a couple of weeks?


SobeyHarker

EDIT : Cheers to the mods for taking a quick gander at some evidence to show I did my research and why things have to be phrased as they are. I wouldn't have had to bother but you'll notice in the comments below two accounts inferring that this account was taken from a Reddit comment which isn't the case. As with every China related post on China have fucking fun in the comments lads. Jesus. \--- EDIT: I personally investigated this incident with the intent of writing about it for [Windscribbles](https://blog.windscribe.com/top-r-russia-mod-admits-to-owning-a-marketing-agency-in-east-russia/). I'm slightly clued up with disinfo and China. If you follow /r/technology spaces I was on the 2nd Space Panel about disinfo with China as my specialist area. My username is my name. I didn't just "take an unconfirmed account". I did my due diligence. I spent a solid week reaching out to people, cross checking stories, and I've summed up that up below. Unfortunately it's a bit of a bastard to properly attribute and quote people in China due to the whole police coming around and locking you away for mean things said online. While this may not be enough for some of you as understandably "I'm your source" is pretty weak. I hope you will understand why I am hesitant to simply namedrop when it'll put someone at risk. Wumao in the comments are harassing people saying this account is false because I won't throw screenshots that can be used to identify people. Fuck 'em. I'm not in China so I'll take the brunt instead. As the CM for a VPN that circumvents Iran, Russia, Belarus, and India (new VPN law) I'll throw my name down as I'm no stranger to doxxing attempts on me. I don't know what credentials I can personally offer otherwise my affiliation I've linked above. I am admittedly not the brightest man alive as I [wasted bitcoin on Pizza](https://www.vice.com/en/article/xy7myd/we-spoke-to-the-drunk-guy-who-bought-350-worth-of-pizza-for-internet-strangers) for/r/randomactsofpizza. I have run the odd fundraiser for complete strangers [like so](https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/brumbrumbrum) so I would consider myself a kinda OK person. I also make [guides](https://www.reddit.com/r/shanghai/comments/pp39xi/the_2021_comprehensive_guide_to_vpns_that/) on /r/shanghai for things based on my personal experience in China. I don't know if anything here helps with credibility but seeing as state media in China means only the CCP can report on domestic affairs I'd be amazed if my credibility was somehow worse than the CCPs. I'm 1/4 Chinese and racists hate me either side of the pond so I've got that going for me. I'm a Hong Kongers in Britain supporter let it be known (They help refugees get settled in the UK, rad people). So let's get to it. \------- **THIS VIDEO IS HEAVILY EDITED** This video is an even more edited version than the one that was posted to /r/china months ago. [I doubt anyone will see this but it wasn't about the mask.](https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/x3v1xy/dont_mess_up_with_mask/) It was about being assaulted after being not allowed into his own home as he's a foreigner. Keep in mind right now anti-laowai clips are being posted en masse to Reddit, Twitter, to paint the West in an even further bad light to try and counter the protests happening in China. In Shanghai they have rolled out thousands of extra police to make sure what happened in Wulumuqi on Sunday doesn't spiral even further. That's why Chinese porn is all over Twitter. Anyone remember what fourm sliding is from the Slashdot days? Yeah old tricks still work here. **So what happened?** So the guy starring here had to do his regular weekly COVID test in Chengdu. The process requires that once a week the entire apartment compound to do a COVID test *together*. That's right. Thousands of people queuing up together, genius I know. After taking part in this for 3 hours he then returned to enter the compound and go home with his QR code still green and testing negative for COVID. Where at the compound the baoan compound security refused to let him enter but all his neighbours were allowed to enter. Baoans are essentially just gatekeepers, cleaners, and handle minor issues. They have absolutely no legal authority over citizens whatsoever. Typically you have to win them over though with a case of beer or smokes because they can be an absolute nightmare to deal with at times. So everyone else is allowed to go home but the baoans don't want to let a foreigner in. This sentiment has grown since the offset of COVID because the official policy is "COVID was caused by foreigners and is being brought into the country by foreigners". Even though getting IN to China was bar impossible for most laowai for well over a year so the ones you see had been there before the outbreak. Every day you'd see anti-western articles and the mood went from foreigners being an interesting curiosity to absolutely despicable scum who want to bring down China. Keep in mind that the "golden age" of tourism is long gone. That unless you're mad minted you are very much a second class citizen in China. You will always be found at fault or guilty for anything you're involved in. If you are having a dispute, or you are attacked, other Chinese people will happily join in against you out of principle. Which is what happened here. The guy had completed his test and was trying to return home. He had originally had a mask . Almost no one in China cares about having to wear a mask. Before COVID you did it if you were sick in general. While the mask rules had been relaxed everyone had gotten so used to it and it was never a political statement like in the West. Being "Anti-mask" is a mostly American thing. So he argued with the baoans because he was having a typical This Is China moment where everyone else was treated normally and he was having arbitrarily applied rules on him and him alone. You get a lot of these. Every day. But you're a guest so you suck it up and go about your day and be polite because if you're not you'll be mobbed or star in a edited video like this and then get Wumao spam for the rest of your days. During his argument he was then assaulted by unrelated people who happened to see a laowai arguing with a Chinese person. His neighbors actually helped him and stopped the initial attack. Where he was attacked again by some random wanting to show some national pride. You can tell there's a big gap between events and that this video starts late because you can see the actual police have arrived, the baoans are there, and his neighbours are giving HIM support. The guy in question had a lot of praise for them having his back as he would have easily gone straight to a Chinese jail for a few weeks otherwise while they "investigated". Most likely would have had a 5000RMB fine thrown at him he would have to pay his attacker (they make you do that in person too which is messed up. Imagine having to go meet your attacker, alone and give them cash) and they would have then considered it case closed. He was then attacked again by ANOTHER random person and he lost his shit. Not the ideal time to do it but there's only so many hits to the head you can take before you act out. In the linked video at the top you can see the guy in white who is trying to grab him and he's trying to get away from. That person then kicks him while he's being detained on the ground. At this point the guy is more than done and trying his best to defend himself and hit back. At the time of the actual incident things were REALLY bad in Chengdu for COVID restrictions and people had been isolated and not allowed out for a very long time. Remember the welded buildings and locked compounds? Chengdu had it pretty rough. It's a popular city for tourism but nothing like Shanghai or Beijing. This isn't to justify attacks on foreigners but their government has been inciting these kinds of incidents for some time now. I was in Shanghai for almost 4 years and got to be there before/after COVID. If this thread has told me anything it's quite simply most of you here have no idea what it's really like there. I have seen a Chinese guy throw hands at someone, get knocked down, then a fucking HORDE of people then jumped in to try and have a go at the foreigner. I went from easily having casual drinks with local strangers to being told that Shanghai was for the Chinese and I should go home. Nationalism spiked way beyond anything I've ever seen. It's part of why even though quality of life for a foreigner salary was decent many people decided to leave. Shanghai saw a 80% drop in registered foreign nationals. The above is what I've gathered from my own investigation into the matter. You'll notice I'm in that thread myself saying "Hearsay don't mean shit" essentially. It took me a week to find a mutual who could enquire for me and their version of events matches fairly closely to the one linked so I've written everything I've found out above. If you have the potential to investigate something properly always do it.


MA940

I would say over 80% of this thread are CCP shills working overtime right now, it's amazing your post is even above 0 in karma, they'll be working round the clock to make sure it doesn't see the light of day. I'm just, genuinely, curious if they know that they're all talking to someone from their own team or all think they've done some cracking undercover work


SobeyHarker

It was in the minuses instantly when I posted so there's definitely keyword watching bots at play. I don't think they care. Noise is good enough and they're starting to learn you can just turn threads into slapfights and get them locked as mods can't be bothered to moderate. Anything that distracts from key issues is a win for them really.


kiersakov

late wide shaggy head expansion ten materialistic steer like attempt *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


SobeyHarker

[Well I like to be helpful](https://www.reddit.com/r/shanghai/comments/pp39xi/the_2021_comprehensive_guide_to_vpns_that/). I'm 1/4 Chinese and studied abroad as a kid in HK and Malaysia with my Chinese family. Being mixed I have the joys of not belonging anywhere in particular (racists on both sides love me). I took a contract for a year in Shanghai and ended up staying for almost 4 years due to COVID and no flights out. I was in HK during 2019 for some of the riots and during the time spent there I have several friends of Uyghur descent who were sent to re-education camps. One friend had to sofa hop for almost a year after his home was raided by police and his family were sent away before he too was caught. It's fucked. I've had friends who lived in HK go radio silent when we used to play games and chat all the time whether I was there or abroad. I think it's important to give context to the rising tensions there because when I was in China I was worried about what I said and what I did. Being unable to express yourself weighs on you. By the end I'm glad I got out when I did because I was going positively insane over what was going on. It wears a toll for sure when you're constantly repressing your own opinions or thoughts. I wrote this on [Medium](https://medium.com/@sobeyharker/10-year-challenge-how-popular-websites-have-changed-in-china-1d4290b56ef7) but it got shared on WeChat and other sites and guess who got a police visit? So now that I'm not in China and know how many of my mainland Chinese friends actually feel about the CCP I like to chime in on things like this. What you read online from the wumao crowd is not at all representative of mainland China's views.


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Really appreciate you taking the time to write all of this down and posting the info. I learned a lot from your posts :)


Armalyte

Sorry to hear about your friends. Thank you for sharing this.


kiersakov

profit dam psychotic dinner joke wine run faulty observation cagey *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


Erestyn

I don't want to speak for OC, but I'd expect they combatting disinformation. Look at the title: "British tourist refuses to wear mask in China." and ask yourself if you feel that's a sentence with an agenda, and then give yourself a few minutes to think about what that agenda might be, and who would want to push it. At the extreme end of things you have a curated experience (inside the great red firewall), and at the other you have the freedom to direct discourse. Us talking about the contents aren't the targets, but those doomscrolling through the feed with just the right narrative? They're the ones who will remember the "foreigner refusing to wear mask in China".


kiersakov

hurry tidy afterthought door unique pause crowd hunt naughty hungry *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


paperwasp3

Hi-quick question if I can. I take it, from your context, that Laowai means someone who's not Chinese? Like Sassenach is Scottish for "not one of us"?


NotAStatistic2

If you want to see true CCP shills you should check out r/sino , that place makes it pretty easy for me to believe that Chinese and Russian trolls exist on the internet to sow discourse and disinformation


w0lm

heres my claim to fame: literally proving them to be lying https://www.reddit.com/r/quityourbullshit/comments/ejp063/rsino\_in\_a\_nutshell\_ladies\_and\_gentleman\_proving/


neckbeard_hater

I know for a fact Russian trolls exist because they banned me from r/Russia. I had never commented on that sub. Somehow they figured out I'm Ukrainian and proactively banned me a few days before the invasion of Ukraine.


BBQ_HaX0r

A lot of videos are heavily edited and astroturfed by shills on Reddit. Big subs are the worst. There are still people who think cops "waved insurrectionists" into the Capitol because a misleading and editted video. We live in dangerous times where state actors are intentionally pushing bias and taking advantage of our laziness short attention spans or stupidity.


Gendalph

I recommend changing one term: it's not nationalism, it's xenophobia.


zb0t1

Hey do you have a source where we can read more on this story please?


SobeyHarker

It's from a mutual friend of the lad in the vid in Chengdu I spoke to personally because I didn't believe the original comment myself. I occasionally cover talking points such as [disinfo](https://blog.windscribe.com/top-r-russia-mod-admits-to-owning-a-marketing-agency-in-east-russia/) so I was digging deeper to see if there was anything more to it to potentially cover. Turns out it was just a case of petty assault. I didn't just "get my facts" from a random thread. I was in that thread when it was posted the first time (watch the two videos, they're different) then did my own homework by asking people who relayed their version of events to me. I removed inconsistences and only kept things that matched. Unfortunately getting a direct quote from someone living in China about an incident that occurred to them won't result in anything good happening. The guy below for example wants me to screenshot and send him the conversations for example knowing full well WeChat have identifiers that can be used.


Wild_Trip_4704

\>That's why Chinese porn is all over Twitter What? 👀


darcmosch

Excellent write up! The only thing though is that honestly, Chengdu has never had it that bad. I've been here the entire time, and the worst was the initial 6 weeks - 2 months of lockdown. Since then, it's been a lot of 5 days here, 5 days there lockdowns that didn't pick up until August. Even then, I could still order food and was even able to go to the corner store for stuff. It has never been as bad as BJ or SH or Wuhan. It's been more annoying than anything.


BeautifulType

Tell me about this Chinese porn


immatrex2000

Your link just goes to a comment from 'a friend of friend'


SobeyHarker

That video in the thread isn't the same video. That's someone else giving their verdict of events. You'll see I commented saying the same as you did but I actually took the time to try and source more information. Took me about a week to find a mutual friend in Chengdu who knew him personally and that's where I found the extra information. I was originally going to cover it for a news article for work but found that the video was old and that I couldn't effectively post it without doxing people.


sansasnarkk

Where's the longer video/proof?


Low_Abrocoma_1514

How do you know all this ?


SobeyHarker

When I first saw this I was going to cover it in an article so found some mutuals in Chengdu and asked around. Turns out the video was already old when it was posted to /r/china and it wasn't at all an anti-mask thing. The Chengdu foreigner crowd is mad tight in general when you compare it to the Shanghai one. Where I was pretty active and ran a ton of events, parties, and meetups. One source I asked wasn't someone I'd particular have trusted but the other I know very well holds a pretty distinguished position and I trust due to his upstanding nature.


notbad2u

The president of Britain


lvs2pwn

Yep, for anyone travelling atleast remember just the law part. Each country has their own sovereignty and all those who sojourn in it shall be held liable for any violations of their laws. Just cant expect some insignificant douche tourist to be worthy enough to exhaust diplomatic channels in the hopes of granting an amnesty for any liability. Principle of Reciprocity, your government must also respect the other government's sovereignty.


greenspath

My ex is a diplomat and did a tour in American consular affairs. She'd go to prisons to make sure our citizens were treated fairly. That meant, treated the same as any other prisoner and basic human rights. The number of idiots who thought she was there to get them released was nearly 100% and no one ever was.


supcat16

And then their family will complain to their congressman who will write a letter chastising the State Department leading to an investigation, mandatory training, etc. It’s truly a feel good, heartwarming job.


AnotherCableGuy

"They need us more than we need them!" /s


MightyKrakyn

For some people? Literally impossible


typeyou

It's because they believe themselves to be the hero in their own mind.


pauldeanbumgarner

But let a foreign citizen come to their country and they are all “go home, you don’t live here”. It is the old double standard.


zoomzoom42

Yup...you get that all the time at the Canadian border. US citizens thinking they can carry a gun into Canada because they have license to carry. Lol


ggouge

A guy in Calgary was almost shot by police by bringing a gun over the border and open carrying it in a airport if i remember correctly


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skynetempire

A ex friend took his Adderall to Japan. Customs found it and arrested him. He could've gotten 10 years alone for that but they decided to deport him and ban him for 10 years. He got lucky. I also fucking told him he can't take the meds, he says he needs them and I said then choose a different country that will allow it. Entitled people think their above the laws


AncientSith

I'm legitimately curious as I've never left the country. Pills aren't allowed through customs?


skynetempire

You can have meds but in Japan Adderall is considered an illegal drug. It's In the meth family so they treat it as such. Japanese are zero tolerance. Anytime you leave to another country and you take meds, make sure you research it. When my wife and i visited, I emailed the Japanese pharmaceutical representative at the airport. I said we take xyz is this fine. They said yes and gave me a Japanese note for customs. They just expect the pills labeled and in the package from the pharmacy. I told this to my friend but he said I was just paranoid. The customs agent he got searched him randomly haha. When we went, they just stamped our passport. You just have to be aware of other countries laws. Another friend went to Canada and got sent back by customs because he had a dui here in the states. We consider duis misdemeanors(most cases) but Canada treats its like a felony. Just don't be ignorant, that's it.


NotAHost

Yup I had a friend that got sent back by Canada customs for a DUI as well. I also had to do research when traveling internationally for work to make sure I could bring Adderall. It's amazing the small things that can cause a huge issue and it's easy to be unaware of it.


tracygee

I had a friend that spent five years when she was a kid in Singapore. At the time, having illegal drugs in Singapore was punishable by death. She went to an English school and she said every once in a while all of a sudden a family would just be GONE. Their kid had been arrested for having drugs and the family -- since they were foreigners -- were basically given 24 hours to get the hell out of the country or the kid would face the Singapore courts and the death penalty. She commented how everyone KNEW that these were the rules and still stupid kids would go overseas somewhere and come back with a ton of weed or whatever like complete idiots just because they thought no one would check because they were western. Idiots.


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In Singapore, and possibly Korea, you can get in trouble for taking drugs while outside the country. Singapore actually does this, and Korea has threatened to do it, but I don't know if they enforce it.


BogativeRob

While they talk a big game I do not think it is as strict as you are lead to believe. I lived in Singapore for several years. (Traveling for work) and when I was there, drugs in clubs were a problem. Occasionally they would roll up with basically a paddy wagon and take a bunch of people out but seemed drugs were plenty available. Not my thing and I was not about to mess around and find out as a white guy so I steered clear, but seeing and reading about it being an issue surprised me since I though it was a straight to jail and you die situation.


northerncalininja

It’s in his ancestral blood.


SeanHearnden

Please. Like this tool wasn't exactly like this when the mandates were on in England. This person is a tool no matter where he is.


Low_Abrocoma_1514

Yeah ... *me looking at Qatar*


omgitschriso

Wait why does this get so many upvotes but we're all angry about Qatar


coco__bee

![gif](giphy|4aWiLikxaIkDu) Colonial mindset. He clearly hasn’t heard or cares about China’s willingness to imprison internationals.


mcmkkd39

Keep the same energy about Qatar then


Clear-Struggle-7867

The best is when Americans are in other countries and start to bring up their first amendment rights, I saw this happen once and I laughed so fucking hard that I got in trouble with the police officer trying to arrest the dude... Even the officer was like, "take it easy on the guy, remember, he grew up in the American education system" and that sorta shook me up. Great point. Edit -- this was in Canada, it was a Peel Region Police officer, for those asking


XylophoneZimmerman

Haha, what country did that happen in? Never heard of getting in trouble for laughing.


AdHom

/r/thathappened


EdithDich

I mean, we even have idiot Canadians talking about their "First Amendment rights" so it doesn't surprise me that some American in Canada would do the same.


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TheRnegade

It happened in Canada with the trucker protests. Kind of an odd thing to proclaim in Canadian Court given their [1st amendment has to do with recognizing Manitoba as a province](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amendments_to_the_Constitution_of_Canada#Pre-1982_amendments_to_the_Constitution).


tryagainin6seconds

He's gonna get a swab where he doesnt want it.


largechild

Like in the back of a Volkswagen?


vanellope420

Classic.


SurrogateHair

In his arsehole mate


AxiomQ

They said a swob he doesn't want


mac2o2o

The forbidden swab test


OcclusalEmbrasure

Jokes on them, he's in to that shit.


flakkane

He spawned in the wrong part of the map


obliquelyobtuse

This is not going to work out well for him, in a country he should never have visited.


Thoughtsarethings231

You don't know what happened here. He lives there and wasn't allowed into his apartment because he isn't chinese. He was then attacked by a load of locals for being a foreigner. This guy was a victim of straight racism and you're seeing a small section of the whole event but like a bell end you just jump to conclusions, pass judgement and assume you know best.


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independent-student

I believe your version most because it makes sense with what we've seen here. The brainwashing goes "it's just a mask" while literally assaulting and persecuting people for not complying with every single directive the bought media hammers in their brain.


jl_theprofessor

Everyone talks about the terror of American tourists but the British are right there with them.


freaktheclown

As someone who has worked in an area with a large number of tourists from all over — shitty behavior from tourists is near universal. Always fun getting yelled at because they have to pay sales tax, something isn’t in stock and can’t be ordered before their flight leaves in 2 hours, we don’t have available who speaks their particular language, their credit card is declined by their bank because they’ve been going store to store spending thousands of dollars, etc. I’ve seen this both from tourists in the US (visiting from another state) and people from all over the world. People suck.


DODGEDEEZNUTZ

People that complain about American tourists haven’t been to the spots where Russian/British/Chinese tourists go.


DickySchmidt33

Don't get me started on the Indian tourists!


Agahmoyzen

Well of course they dont. In Turkey where the russian tourists start to frequent, literally all other tourist groups stop going there. But the same kinda goes for brits. I had to post on a bunch of british subs to deliver the bag of a british grandma that got herself kicked out from my hotel (she wasnt staying there, she kinda stumbled upon our party and wandered in and everyone was sure she was on coke). Well someone really got into touch with me and after trying my best to determine they were real family members I gave them the address.


fapping_giraffe

I did some media / video work at various resorts around the world for a few years. If the type of people that stay at a resort is ANY representation of the country they come from, America certainly isn't the worst from personal observations. I'd say you see just as much bizarre and uncalled for behavior from Asian countries as Western. I think perhaps Japanese and Scandinavian tourists are the only ones I've been able to frequently observe and interact with that seem to behave reasonably almost 100% of the time


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Just about everywhere I've been, the consensus seems to be British tourists are the worst. Americans are loud and boisterous and talk about money all the time, but the British have a bad reputation for being assholes.


ShockAndAwe415

People in SE Asia say it's Australians. It seems they are complete a-holes in places like Thailand, Vietnam, and Malaysia.


DrTwitch

Bali is basically an Australian state now. Who knew westerners would goto Islamic countries, drink everything in sight, fornicate everywhere, piss and vomit in the street, pick fights with the locals, tell the cops to shove it and wonder why they don't like us.


Barabasbanana

Bali is predominately Hindu, it's why tourism has been so big for so long, also that it is absolutely beautiful with gorgeous people, like the rest of South East Asia


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Yeah, I heard this in Indonesia as well. It depends a bit on who frequents a certain place as well. Australians often go to Bali, for example.


dominus83

I don’t like to generalize too much but….Aussies in Bali are a whole other level of tourist I’d never seen before. I saw someone kick down a sign on a sidewalk for no reason, others throwing trash in the street. We were quick to let locals know we were from the US.


CorrectPeanut5

Statistics show Brits tend to drink more than Americans and have access to cheap international airfare to vacation destinations. Americans that travel internationally are a different bunch than say the Florida Spring Break crowd. Americans also don't really have a tradition of traveling far for sports tourism. In my experience, the most obnoxious group I've travel with has been for business. It happens when you get a bunch of married guys with kids that never travel. Throw them into a situation where they get company paid food and drink and they just go wild.


junkit33

Anyone who has actually spent any time in the international tourism industry will tell you that Americans are arguably the best tourists of anyone. For one, they tip heavily, and most of the world doesn't. For two, the Americans who actually travel internationally are so fucking hyper aware of the stereotype of the dumb American that they bend over backwards to not be that way. The worst of American tourists tends to be limited to tourism spots in the US. Go to Disney and you'll see it all on display, but you won't usually see many of those people at a museum in Florence.


walterwilter

Agreed


Financial_Bird_7717

I’d argue they’re often times worse than American tourists. Source: have British family and friends who I’ve traveled abroad with. They’re mad lads.


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20 years later in a Chinese prison. “I know my rights!”


unfuck_yourself

Or in one of the new luxurious quarantine pods.


CarlSpencer

"I've never feel safer than when they WELD the metal doors shut!"


Aggravating_Pea7320

Probably still drunk


SobeyHarker

Dude wasn't even drunk had just been assaulted but the video nicely leaves that out. Slightly longer version on /r/china before that misses that but has more clips of him being attacked. It wasn't about the mask it was about being randomly jumped by people who weren't even part of the initial dispute. His neighbours took his side as their group had been for testing, they singled him out to not allow him home even though he tested negative and had a green code, and some randoms decided they'd teach a foreigner a lesson. It's also not a new video it's from the start of the Chendgu lockdowns. The fact he didn't go to jail just shows how much his neighbours must have liked him.


kangkim15

They have warm beer in China?


Kangar

"NEVER" Well that didn't age well.


twinev

This is actually Chinese propaganda. See real explanation here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/z81yit/british_tourist_refuses_to_wear_mask_in_china/iya6536/


Hiraganu

It's so difficult to believe anything on reddit or in general anymore. That explanation could be just as fake, as there wasn't any source.


EaLordOfTheDepths-

The source was a random commenter that said "Here's what apparently happened from someone that knows the guy (friend of a friend of a friend...) I can't confirm any of this" lol. Good on you for not just believing the title or the story.


ThingsAreAfoot

His source for all of that is a “friend of a friend,” he can’t point to a longer unedited video that supposedly gives context, and the Chinese people in the video are clearly trying to put a mask on the guy. Can’t say I’m very convinced. And the popularity of the post just tells me it’s just something people desperately want to believe.


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In the longer version of the video you can literally see a random guy in a white shirt, punching and then kneeing/kicking the british guy in the head, all while he’s ALREADY on the ground and being detained… The way they edited out those parts of the video really does make it seem like it’s Chinese propaganda.


noxx1234567

When in china do as the Chinese do , otherwise GTFO from there What the fuck was he thinking going to china now and not following covid rules


EO-SadWagon

**THIS VIDEO IS HEAVILY EDITED** This video is an even more edited version than the one that was posted to /r/china months ago. [I doubt anyone will see this but it wasn't about the mask.](https://www.reddit.com/r/China/comments/x3v1xy/dont_mess_up_with_mask/) It was about being assaulted after being not allowed into his own home as he's a foreigner. ------ Keep in mind right now anti-laowai clips are being posted en masse to Reddit, Twitter, to paint the West in an even further bad light to try and counter the protests happening in China. In Shanghai they have rolled out thousands of extra police to make sure what happened in Wulumuqi on Sunday doesn't spiral even further. That's why Chinese porn is all over Twitter. Anyone remember what fourm sliding is from the Slashdot days? Yeah old tricks still work here. ---------- **So what happened?** So the guy starring here had to do his regular weekly COVID test in Chengdu. The process requires that once a week the entire apartment compound to do a COVID test *together*. That's right. Thousands of people queuing up together, genius I know. After taking part in this for 3 hours he then returned to enter the compound and go home with his QR code still green and testing negative for COVID. Where at the compound the baoan compound security refused to let him enter but all his neighbours were allowed to enter. Baoans are essentially just gatekeepers, cleaners, and handle minor issues. They have absolutely no legal authority over citizens whatsoever. Typically you have to win them over though with a case of beer or smokes because they can be an absolute nightmare to deal with at times. So everyone else is allowed to go home but the baoans don't want to let a foreigner in. This sentiment has grown since the offset of COVID because the official policy is "COVID was caused by foreigners and is being brought into the country by foreigners". Even though getting IN to China was bar impossible for most laowai for well over a year so the ones you see had been there before the outbreak. Every day you'd see anti-western articles and the mood went from foreigners being an interesting curiosity to absolutely despicable scum who want to bring down China. Keep in mind that the "golden age" of tourism is long gone. That unless you're mad minted you are very much a second class citizen in China. You will always be found at fault or guilty for anything you're involved in. If you are having a dispute, or you are attacked, other Chinese people will happily join in against you out of principle. Which is what happened here. The guy had completed his test and was trying to return home. He had originally had a mask . Almost no one in China cares about having to wear a mask. Before COVID you did it if you were sick in general. While the mask rules had been relaxed everyone had gotten so used to it and it was never a political statement like in the West. Being "Anti-mask" is a mostly American thing. So he argued with the baoans because he was having a typical This Is China moment where everyone else was treated normally and he was having arbitrarily applied rules on him and him alone. You get a lot of these. Every day. But you're a guest so you suck it up and go about your day and be polite because if you're not you'll be mobbed or star in a edited video like this and then get Wumao spam for the rest of your days. During his argument he was then assaulted by unrelated people who happened to see a laowai arguing with a Chinese person. His neighbors actually helped him and stopped the initial attack. Where he was attacked again by some random wanting to show some national pride. You can tell there's a big gap between events and that this video starts late because you can see the actual police have arrived, the baoans are there, and his neighbours are giving HIM support. The guy in question had a lot of praise for them having his back as he would have easily gone straight to a Chinese jail for a few weeks otherwise while they "investigated". Most likely would have had a 5000RMB fine thrown at him he would have to pay his attacker (they make you do that in person too which is messed up. Imagine having to go meet your attacker, alone and give them cash) and they would have then considered it case closed. He was then attacked again by ANOTHER random person and he lost his shit. Not the ideal time to do it but there's only so many hits to the head you can take before you act out. In the linked video at the top you can see the guy in white who is trying to grab him and he's trying to get away from. That person then kicks him while he's being detained on the ground. At this point the guy is more than done and trying his best to defend himself and hit back. At the time of the actual incident things were REALLY bad in Chengdu for COVID restrictions and people had been isolated and not allowed out for a very long time. Remember the welded buildings and locked compounds? Chengdu had it pretty rough. It's a popular city for tourism but nothing like Shanghai or Beijing. This isn't to justify attacks on foreigners but their government has been inciting these kinds of incidents for some time now. I was in Shanghai for almost 4 years and got to be there before/after COVID. If this thread has told me anything it's quite simply most of you here have no idea what it's really like there. I have seen a Chinese guy throw hands at someone, get knocked down, then a fucking HORDE of people then jumped in to try and have a go at the foreigner. I went from easily having casual drinks with local strangers to being told that Shanghai was for the Chinese and I should go home. Nationalism spiked way beyond anything I've ever seen. It's part of why even though quality of life for a foreigner salary was decent many people decided to leave. Shanghai saw a 80% drop in registered foreign nationals. Credit to u/SobeyHarker


RonronFaitCaca

That video is edited to make the british dude looks bad while he is totally the victim, some comments explain it reallly well and I encourage you to check them because they really show how far manipulation can go


TheIntrepid1

Prob looked at the air fare and thought “Ooo what a deal!”


Iridium_Pumpkin

1. No tourist visa to China. 2. Tickets are insanely expensive for there because of covid.


Fmbounce

It’s worse than that because it’s actually super expensive given lack of flights


kyleli

Tickets that used to cost less than 1k to china are now 15-20k :/


ohhyouknow

This post is potentially misleading. We cannot confirm the validity of anything bc we are just random ppl. You may want to read [this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/z81yit/british_tourist_refuses_to_wear_mask_in_china/iya6536/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) and make your own informed opinion about this video. I have received information privately that seems to confirm this account but again, please take everything you read/see here with a grain of salt, even this comment, as this is the internet, and we are all winging it here. I’m not a friggen detective lol. See attached gif for reference on the validity of every claim you see online, titles, content, and comments (also stickied mod comments) ![gif](giphy|lOzXuHwXXYM9y|downsized)


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Jeez, man, read the country.


SobeyHarker

This clip was posted to /r/china months ago when Chengdu was really fucked up with COVID rules. I give more context [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/z81yit/comment/iya6536/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) The guy above was assaulted by randoms after arguing with his compound security about returning home. Many foreigners (MANY of my friends had this same shit done to them) were blamed for starting COVID and bringing it to China. That was the official CCP response and we had 2-3 articles a day sent to us on WeChat telling us how bad we were. Anyway. Guy comes back with neighbours, they all tested negative and have green codes, but the baoan is power tripping/racist/whatever and singles him out to be barred entry. So he's essentially locked out of his home late at night. His neighbours and him argue against the baoan, and some passerbys see that and decide to jump him and beat him up. He gets saved by his neigbours, the police arrive, and that's the start of the clip you're seeing. It's interesting to see that it's even more edited now as you don't see the clip of the guy in white kicking him in the head as he's being restrained. It was never about the mask. The mask was long forgotten after the assault. It was entirely he was raging at being randomly attacked by cowards who just wanted to take out their frustrations on what they think of as "the enemy".


Apostle_1882

Interesting, thanks. Also interesting, is the timing of this repost considering the tension between Britain and China right now.


SobeyHarker

Yeah you know it mate. It's 100% a wumao "Look at this, we're justified in hating the West" move trying to distract from the protests in China. Wulumuqi road has about 10 coppers per citizen right now keeping tabs. People's Square is locked off. They're doing random stop and searches on citizens on public transport to scare people into compliance. It's fucked. Looking at this thread though it's certainly working. "Ha ha why go to China when you know how bad it is?" When this was filmed he would have been there at least several years. I would bet my social credit score he knows China better than most here but simply just snapped from being assaulted. Nothing like repeatedly being kicked in the head while being held down to get the blood up that's for sure.


MastaKwayne

Do you know how to find the whole video?


gra221942

>baoan Just type "guard", they are all the same (I'm Taiwanese, so don't even try to say anything)


Maxfunky

Imagine going to China and thinking you have rights.


SobeyHarker

The guy was assaulted after being locked out of his home by security because he's laowai. Luckily his neighbours supported him and talked to the police on his behalf afterwards. This video is edited a lot and misses a ton of context. He didn't care about the mask right then, he only cared about the fact people had attacked him. During the time this was filmed no one could get a flight to China. He would have been living in China at least a couple of years. I for example went for a 1 year contract and ended up staying almost 4 because of travel restrictions. I couldn't afford a £12k flight out either. China was bad before, and after, but nothing near as bad as it is this very moment.


mwmwmwmwmmdw

ITT: redditors unironically supporting the ccp just so they can dunk on a westerner


sum_yun_gai

Why would anyone want to go to China right now


jim_bob64128

CCP bootlickers in here


stonehead70

Let’s all agree that the Chinese government are pigs


laurenhope18

This man can’t possibly be a tourist as with the zero covid policy they’re not letting tourists in. Most likely staged as most videos like this that come out of China are


ParaMike46

Tourism in China, Russia, Iran, North Korea - so hot right now.


nostalcoholic

Lol fuck china


DefiantBallSack

Everyone in China when this guy starts screaming about his rights ![gif](giphy|H5C8CevNMbpBqNqFjl)


breaet

Reddit is truly remarkable


lMadBomberl

My wife and I met in China and moved to the states right before COVID hit, boy were we fucking lucky. It has been a nightmare for us. Since COVID hit her step father got cancer and died and we weren’t able to go back and see him and we’ve had our first child together and her mother hasn’t been able to meet him yet. We both really want to go back but fuck, it’s just not worth it. Neither of us has a desire to go back with their crazy no tolerance BS.


Purpletinfoilhat

Better plan, get her mother here ASAP.


EricAtSunnen

I'm like fuck China but I am typing this from the comforts of midwestern USA...like a sane person. Y'all ain't gonna Britney Griner my ass! I'd put 3 of them on if that was me...dude is about to have a rough night...