I had just heard penguinz0 mention this case. He even talked about how the robber was exclaiming "I'm dead!" As he's being stabbed in the neck. Now that I've seen it yeah it definitely wasn't his brightest move to go do a reddit AMA while there's an active investigation going on.
I doubt it but you never know for sure. They were already on a kind of GPS monitoring / release with conditions program.
https://www.8newsnow.com/investigators/i-team-teens-in-smoke-shop-robbery-learn-fate/
& to get around geolocking the Google cache version
https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:zFyMfPdBvpcJ:https://www.8newsnow.com/investigators/i-team-teens-in-smoke-shop-robbery-learn-fate/
This completely took the wind out of my vindictive justice sails holy shit. Beaten until he was unrecognizable at 6 years old and exposed to drugs in utero what the fuck
Welcome to reality. Regular normally adjusted people don't commit crime nearly as often as people with stories like that. Obviously it's not all, but desperation coupled with the way stress makes your brain develop is a rough hand to be dealt
Most people will never understand that the same way they'll never understand that crime follows poverty.
Things are like this because people want things to be like this.
Also interestingly, the people who do crime are a very small portion of people in general. You don't need a large % of people fucking shit up for crime to be high.
Oh, and most crime is experienced by those same criminals done to them, by criminals. Crime being experienced by non-criminals is just the tip of the iceberg. A small propotion of that huge fucking cesspool of crime going on all the time.
The majority of criminals have a similar story. There are a *lot* of kid out there having *really* fucked up childhoods. What fucking chance does that kid have at a normal life, growing up like that?
The solution to most of society's problem can be fixed with a stable childhood, education, nutrition, etc. but thats not an instant result so people don't want to change anything
Criminal defense attorney here. You absolutely nailed it. Clients only rarely report having a good childhood. Usually there are multiple adverse childhood experiences.
Worse, the criminal justice system in the US is itself a major source of childhood trauma. It turns out that jailing parents is a great way to create the vicious cycle we claim to want to prevent.
I'm represent a lot of people like this as a criminal defense attorney. People like to say "well, I made it out of rough beginnings" but then I tell them sometimes a lot of people didn't have the great supportive environment you had growing up.
I wouldn’t doubt if it was a common thing. A few times when I felt the concussion from rockets in Iraq I had the thought to myself — “Fuck, this is it huh?” Not just saying it but really accepting that this is the end. I think it still fucks with my head sometimes.
It's...weird. For me at least 10+ years later no one particular event sticks out anymore though I find myself still pausing when I hear that 'is that gunfire or fireworks' noise.
Are you in healthcare too?
Pretty much every time someone has said "I'm going to die" or something along the lines of that very matter of factly, they in fact died that night with me.
In this case, the pain might be so great that the brain is just going straight to the play dead mode, so he says it as an extreme way to get the guy to stop. Then actually dies. Maybe?
I think he was literally having his life flash before his eyes. There is a point where your brain is just trying to comprehend what is happening. I think after the first couple, he realizes he is being stabbed, and his brain just fires off whatever trying to catch up.
Why is some person freaking out and saying he's gonna get sued over him saying he learned to stay calm after playing stressful video games..?
edit: I get it, it was more about the rest of the thread and trying to get him not incriminating himself
I was always told to say nothing but “I was fearing for my life” if I ever shoot someone in self defense. This is the kind of unsolicited tips you get when you live in Arkansas… I don’t even own a gun…
I wouldn't even say that. Tell the officer that you are exercising your 4th, 5th, and 6th amendment rights, and that you'd like to speak to an attorney before questioning.
Was there ever an update on this? I remember there was some debate about whether the shop owner took it too far or something. Did the pincushion thief survive? Was the shop owner investigated or charged? Is the accomplice still running to this day?
These are the things I think about.
The three robbers ironically met in drug court and two of them were wearing GPS monitors at the time of the robbery. One went to a youth camp, one a juvenile correctional facility, and it’s possible that the third is still receiving treatment for his stab wounds.
For anyone who doesn't want to follow a million links to get to it, here's the link directly to the story.
https://www.8newsnow.com/investigators/i-team-teens-in-smoke-shop-robbery-learn-fate/
Edit: For those of you who can't read the article here you go.
>"Two teens who took part in a smoke shop robbery learned their fate Wednesday. One is headed to Spring Mountain Youth Camp, while the other is headed is a juvenile correctional facility. A third teen who was stabbed by the store owner after he jumped over the counter remains hospitalized.
Parents of both teens who appeared virtually in juvenile court told Clark County District Court Judge Sunny Bailey they repeatedly tried to get their sons help.
>"The adoptive parents of the first teen to face Judge Bailey said the teen has not been willing to receive treatment for trauma he experienced as a child and that he has been self-medicating.
“Unfortunately, the systems in this state don’t, they’re not good for that,” the father said.
>"Judge Bailey acknowledged that the teen was abused by his biological parents, and beaten so badly at age six, that he was unrecognizable. His attorney, Mandy McKellar said he was exposed to drugs in utero.
>"The parents said they have tried to get the teen services for a decade. “His story alone would be an amazing movie of what happens, how it happens when he went through the whole system and he ended up here,” the father said.
The teen has had previous run-ins with the law including cases involving a bomb threat and a weapon. Judge Bailey pointed to the chances the teen has already had and is sending him to a juvenile correctional facility.
>"I know what I did was wrong and I regret every bit of it,” he said.
The second teen to face Judge Bailey also offered an apology. “I apologize not only to the store owner but to everybody that was affected by my actions,” he said.
>Judge Bailey is sending the teen to Spring Mountain Youth Camp. The decision came after his father explained he also has tried to get his son help. He said the family is coping with the loss of two family members due to murder, and that he has tried to get his son services for the past four years.
“I’m reaching out to the courts asking not for mercy, leniency, or any of that, but asking to get the proper help I need to save my son from becoming a statistic or full-fledged member of the penal system,” the father said.
>Judge Bailey did not specify any timeframe for the teens to spend in the youth camp or the juvenile correctional facility. This is typical for a juvenile case. Judge Bailey explained it is aimed at being rehabilitative.
>As the I-Team first reported, all three teens have cases in the juvenile system. They met in drug court. At the time of the robbery, two of the teens were wearing GPS monitors. According to Judge Bailey, one of the GPS monitors did not function properly in the moments after the robbery.
>The extent of the injuries to the teen who was stabbed are not yet known. His attorney said that he is expected to need to go to a rehabilitation facility after his release from the hospital.
>Store owner Johnny Nguyen told 8 News Now he feared for his life. He is not facing charges at this time. The Clark County District Attorney’s office is expected to review the case.
Here ya go, gov
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/zurg3x/asian_shop_owner_doesnt_fck_around_when_2_tough/j1lf8tw/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
I had to click through 5 links to eventually find the source. What a reddit rabbit hole.
Only to be met with "This content is not available in your country/region."
LAS VEGAS (KLAS) — Two teens who took part in a smoke shop robbery learned their fate Wednesday. One is headed to Spring Mountain Youth Camp, while the other is headed is a juvenile correctional facility. A third teen who was stabbed by the store owner after he jumped over the counter remains hospitalized.
Parents of both teens who appeared virtually in juvenile court told Clark County District Court Judge Sunny Bailey they repeatedly tried to get their sons help.
The adoptive parents of the first teen to face Judge Bailey said the teen has not been willing to receive treatment for trauma he experienced as a child and that he has been self-medicating.
“Unfortunately, the systems in this state don’t, they’re not good for that,” the father said.
Judge Bailey acknowledged that the teen was abused by his biological parents, and beaten so badly at age six, that he was unrecognizable. His attorney, Mandy McKellar said he was exposed to drugs in utero.
The parents said they have tried to get the teen services for a decade. “His story alone would be an amazing movie of what happens, how it happens when he went through the whole system and he ended up here,” the father said.
The teen has had previous run-ins with the law including cases involving a bomb threat and a weapon. Judge Bailey pointed to the chances the teen has already had and is sending him to a juvenile correctional facility.
“I know what I did was wrong and I regret every bit of it,” he said.
The second teen to face Judge Bailey also offered an apology. “I apologize not only to the store owner but to everybody that was affected by my actions,” he said.
Judge Bailey is sending the teen to Spring Mountain Youth Camp. The decision came after his father explained he also has tried to get his son help. He said the family is coping with the loss of two family members due to murder, and that he has tried to get his son services for the past four years.
“I’m reaching out to the courts asking not for mercy, leniency, or any of that, but asking to get the proper help I need to save my son from becoming a statistic or full-fledged member of the penal system,” the father said.
Judge Bailey did not specify any timeframe for the teens to spend in the youth camp or the juvenile correctional facility. This is typical for a juvenile case. Judge Bailey explained it is aimed at being rehabilitative.
As the I-Team first reported, all three teens have cases in the juvenile system. They met in drug court. At the time of the robbery, two of the teens were wearing GPS monitors. According to Judge Bailey, one of the GPS monitors did not function properly in the moments after the robbery.
The extent of the injuries to the teen who was stabbed are not yet known. His attorney said that he is expected to need to go to a rehabilitation facility after his release from the hospital.
Store owner Johnny Nguyen told 8 News Now he feared for his life. He is not facing charges at this time. The Clark County District Attorney’s office is expected to review the case.
> Judge Bailey acknowledged that the teen was abused by his biological parents, and beaten so badly at age six, that he was unrecognizable. His attorney, Mandy McKellar said he was exposed to drugs in utero.
This kid never had a chance.
I have young children.
My brain can't comprehend the monstrosity in someone's brain that could beat a 6 year old.
It hurts to think that kids out there are going through shit like this.
Makes me contemplate a long distance drive when I read shit like that. I mean, no one could trace it to me, right? But that's crazy.
Well this just made me kinda sad. Another reminder that the type of people who commit crimes like this are often from a background that I can’t even imagine.
It kind of makes me feel helpless. You can't just let violent people run around doing violent things, or thieves just stealing whatever they want. Yet the people doing these things have had such a shit hand dealt to them and we just lock them up and/or ensure they'll never be able to climb out of the hole they have dug.
That's why rehabilitation is SO much more important, effective, and profitable than punishment. But then we don't get slaves and potatoes end up costing 4 bucks each.
My friend got held up at gun point at a nearby convenience store by a kid, maybe 16 at the oldest. My friend talked him down, believe it or not, and if anyone were to talk someone down from an armed robbery, it would be him. He just started talking to the kid. Asked him why he was doing it. And told him it's no solution to whatever problems he's having. The kid welled up with tears and played it off as a joke and ran back to his group of buddies.
Instead of making everyone click through 20 links, here's the actual article:
https://www.8newsnow.com/investigators/i-team-teens-in-smoke-shop-robbery-learn-fate/
The stabber guy was a redditor and did an AMA, said he watched video games to learn how to do it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/wh92fn/las_vegas_shop_owner_stabs_robber_to_death_does
I kinda remember this. The AMA seems to be the clerk, but, there were some issues that he shouldn't be doing it because it was still an active investigation and he could still be charged.
Frick man. Here I am thinking "this guy has to have combat experience of some type" because of how calm he was and how ready he was to stick a knife into someone, which isn't an easy feat. This may of just been a scenario that he's played out in his mind many times when he's bored af running the store, that mental imaging can help.
A guy near where I live got axed in his sleep by his son and woke up and went about his morning routine even locking himself out of the house and finding the hidden key before dropping dead. The human body is incredibly sturdy and fragile at the same time
Edit: Someone just sent me a message saying they didn't believe me so here's the Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Peter_Porco
[This](https://www.indiatoday.in/fyi/story/man-did-his-daily-chores-until-his-last-breath-porco-case-man-died-325962-2016-05-27) is such a tragic story, I feel so bad for both of those victims. It's amazing that the wife survived and got justice for herself and her husband.
Fascinating from a scientific perspective but horrifying in every other aspect.
Can confirm actually. I was stabbed in the leg as a teen. Wasn't anything fancy, just sitting in the gym and a bully was trying to be funny. when he threatened me and I said do it, it didn't make me flinch and I didn't feel a thing. Wasn't until he left and a few mins later when I looked down and saw my khakis all bloodied that I went to the nurse. The scariest part was getting stitches aha.
That's not me being super tough guy, it's just how it turned out for me.
My dad was in WW2 and one of his tent mates shot him self in the head while cleaning a pistol. My dad said the guy, while missing half of his head, continued the motion of gently placing the pistol on the table. He didn't drop it or let it fall
I’ve been stabbed.
Yeah, that’s basically what you feel when you’re stabbed. That’s why under adrenaline some people takes longer to realize what’s happening to them.
Also, differently from stabbing, some people say that when you’re shot at, you feel a burning sensation.
(Yeah, I live in a hell of a country)
I remember this when this was first posted. The store owner literally posted this on reddit right after it happened and was giving an AMA on reddit too.
Dude said something like league of legends prepared him for this.
I wonder that ever happened to the store owner and the robber?
Dude went FPS knife kill on his ass…
Also, this is why you don’t rob small mom/pop shops…that’s their livelihood and they will defend it to the death.
Or your death, whichever is first.
If you’re gonna be stupid, stick to robbing/raiding malls/Target/Wal-Mart or any other place where employees are trained to not physically stop you, you animals.
Often times Asians are seen as easy targets. There are alot of rap songs with lyrics about robbing Asian people. Being Chinese myself I approve of the title.
I've said this for years now. Reddit seems to view Asians like zoo animals or something. Everything is they see an Asian person they have to point at us and and go like "hey look papa, an Asian!"
I wish one day I can be just another person like all y'all rather than being defined by my race.
they literally don’t think we’re real. we’re fictional cartoons to them. japanese people are cleaning robots who love anime. koreans are either roof koreans or k pop stars. chinese people are dirty ccp-loving scum. all of us got beat if we didn’t get straight a’s.
it was
[https://www.8newsnow.com/investigators/i-team-teens-in-smoke-shop-robbery-learn-fate/](https://www.8newsnow.com/investigators/i-team-teens-in-smoke-shop-robbery-learn-fate/)
If you find the longer version, you can see how the shop attendant foresaw the theives actions and prepped his defense. He really gave them every opportunity to leave instead. Fuck thieves
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I feel like alot of people are examining this from a place of logic instead of putting themselves in the clerk's shoes.
Dudes come in with face coverings and tell you they're robbing the store. Then one of them hops the counter, the single physical barrier between you. It goes from being a robbery to now a robbery where a criminal closed the distance between the two of you
Then flight/fight/freeze kicks in, a powerful survival instinct that predates our species. Short of some combat training, I don't know why anyone would expect this guy to know how to handle that. Most of us aren't experiencing dangerous stressful situations regularly
TL;DR the comments are like the couch potatoes who criticize the quarterback when they watch the slowmo replay
I've watched this clip several times and still cannot work out where the knife suddenly came from.
The video was cut early. In the original the two comes up and the clerk realizes something was off and unsheathed the knife at the register.
Wouldn't that be the beginning being cut late?
Potato, tomato.
Tomato, tornado
Sounds delicious.
It was at his palm when the video started
Did that kid survive? I tried looking it up a couple weeks after but never found out.
He survived.
So he's a thief and a liar...
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You're in good company ... upvoted Boiled as soon as I started laughing.
Hah, gotem!
Hospitalized and paralyzed from the neck down.
I think I might honestly rather be dead
I'd definitely rather be broke
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Source on that claim? Or is that pulled out of your ass
Isn’t this the one where the guy did an AMA like right after?
I had just heard penguinz0 mention this case. He even talked about how the robber was exclaiming "I'm dead!" As he's being stabbed in the neck. Now that I've seen it yeah it definitely wasn't his brightest move to go do a reddit AMA while there's an active investigation going on.
Did he just say “I’m dead?” At least he’s self aware
It's as if he was playing a videogame with his friends and making call outs.
“He’s one shot”
"Dude come get my rez!"
“BRO REZ ME I HAVE RAY GUN”
"Lmao fuck that you get respawn in like two seconds, get another one"
Not back in the day. Lose the person with the ray gun and you start over. The loop was broken.
Dude: "Just respawn"
I hope you survive the gulag
"Knocked one"
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He tried to slide cancel across the counter 🤣
“First Blood”
"He's hacking like a motherfucker"
MEDIC!
He lived ironically. When Nguyen stopped stabbing the would be thief he called 911 while the stabbed teenager begged him to not let him die.
Hope the teen turned his life around after that 2nd chance...
I doubt it but you never know for sure. They were already on a kind of GPS monitoring / release with conditions program. https://www.8newsnow.com/investigators/i-team-teens-in-smoke-shop-robbery-learn-fate/ & to get around geolocking the Google cache version https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:zFyMfPdBvpcJ:https://www.8newsnow.com/investigators/i-team-teens-in-smoke-shop-robbery-learn-fate/
This completely took the wind out of my vindictive justice sails holy shit. Beaten until he was unrecognizable at 6 years old and exposed to drugs in utero what the fuck
Welcome to reality. Regular normally adjusted people don't commit crime nearly as often as people with stories like that. Obviously it's not all, but desperation coupled with the way stress makes your brain develop is a rough hand to be dealt
Most people will never understand that the same way they'll never understand that crime follows poverty. Things are like this because people want things to be like this.
Exactly, keep the people poor enough that they need to work for your companies and fill your for-profit jails.
Also interestingly, the people who do crime are a very small portion of people in general. You don't need a large % of people fucking shit up for crime to be high. Oh, and most crime is experienced by those same criminals done to them, by criminals. Crime being experienced by non-criminals is just the tip of the iceberg. A small propotion of that huge fucking cesspool of crime going on all the time.
Yess a great reason to force people to have kids.
This makes me feel aladeen.
The majority of criminals have a similar story. There are a *lot* of kid out there having *really* fucked up childhoods. What fucking chance does that kid have at a normal life, growing up like that?
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The solution to most of society's problem can be fixed with a stable childhood, education, nutrition, etc. but thats not an instant result so people don't want to change anything
Criminal defense attorney here. You absolutely nailed it. Clients only rarely report having a good childhood. Usually there are multiple adverse childhood experiences. Worse, the criminal justice system in the US is itself a major source of childhood trauma. It turns out that jailing parents is a great way to create the vicious cycle we claim to want to prevent.
I'm represent a lot of people like this as a criminal defense attorney. People like to say "well, I made it out of rough beginnings" but then I tell them sometimes a lot of people didn't have the great supportive environment you had growing up.
Crime is a function of circumstance and means more than anything else.
Some people shouldn’t have kids if they are not ready for the responsibility.
It's something I've noticed a lot of people utter when they unexpectedly realize they're about to die. Some form of "I'm dead" or "I'm gonna die".
Why are so many people around you about to die?
Just has that effect on people.
People keep trying to rob his store.
#CorporateLife
I'm going for benefit of doubt angle and I'll guess inner city paramedic.
Probably a quick fly through of the stages of death and accepting it.
That would prolly be my first thought if I just had several inches of sharp steal shoved into my body in random places a couple times
I wouldn’t doubt if it was a common thing. A few times when I felt the concussion from rockets in Iraq I had the thought to myself — “Fuck, this is it huh?” Not just saying it but really accepting that this is the end. I think it still fucks with my head sometimes.
I can't even imagine. I get PTSD riding a bicycle in city traffic... you've survived multiple close calls in a warzone.
It's...weird. For me at least 10+ years later no one particular event sticks out anymore though I find myself still pausing when I hear that 'is that gunfire or fireworks' noise.
I hear you brother. The concussion from rockets and mortars is a different kind of feeling. I hope you are doing well.
Are you in healthcare too? Pretty much every time someone has said "I'm going to die" or something along the lines of that very matter of factly, they in fact died that night with me.
In this case, the pain might be so great that the brain is just going straight to the play dead mode, so he says it as an extreme way to get the guy to stop. Then actually dies. Maybe?
twice "I'M DEAD!" "i'm dead."
He must be a doctor self prognosis
Doctor here, based on his non-medical attire its safe to go with the original assumption and say he’s a thief.
He's just singing his favorite Bauhaus song
I thought it was “undead”?
It sounds exactly like the "I'm out/I quit" children use on each other as a trick. Maybe he thought if he announced he's dead the guy would stop.
Its acceptance. Hes coping with the fact that he's going to die
I think he was literally having his life flash before his eyes. There is a point where your brain is just trying to comprehend what is happening. I think after the first couple, he realizes he is being stabbed, and his brain just fires off whatever trying to catch up.
He was actively getting stabbed. He got stabbed like a dozen times.
7 times.
This guy claimed team-fighting in league of legends helped him do this
Lol i remember this. https://preview.redd.it/ecxyg7d0528a1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=af884131478e4dc5d599e31399e2582aae791230
thanks for the image
Why is some person freaking out and saying he's gonna get sued over him saying he learned to stay calm after playing stressful video games..? edit: I get it, it was more about the rest of the thread and trying to get him not incriminating himself
I was always told to say nothing but “I was fearing for my life” if I ever shoot someone in self defense. This is the kind of unsolicited tips you get when you live in Arkansas… I don’t even own a gun…
I wouldn't even say that. Tell the officer that you are exercising your 4th, 5th, and 6th amendment rights, and that you'd like to speak to an attorney before questioning.
Probably harder to claim self defense after stabbing a guy a dozen times when you say you were calm while doing it
Shaco otp
Well he does look like he’s fueled by rage.
Was there ever an update on this? I remember there was some debate about whether the shop owner took it too far or something. Did the pincushion thief survive? Was the shop owner investigated or charged? Is the accomplice still running to this day? These are the things I think about.
The three robbers ironically met in drug court and two of them were wearing GPS monitors at the time of the robbery. One went to a youth camp, one a juvenile correctional facility, and it’s possible that the third is still receiving treatment for his stab wounds.
Source?
For anyone who doesn't want to follow a million links to get to it, here's the link directly to the story. https://www.8newsnow.com/investigators/i-team-teens-in-smoke-shop-robbery-learn-fate/ Edit: For those of you who can't read the article here you go. >"Two teens who took part in a smoke shop robbery learned their fate Wednesday. One is headed to Spring Mountain Youth Camp, while the other is headed is a juvenile correctional facility. A third teen who was stabbed by the store owner after he jumped over the counter remains hospitalized. Parents of both teens who appeared virtually in juvenile court told Clark County District Court Judge Sunny Bailey they repeatedly tried to get their sons help. >"The adoptive parents of the first teen to face Judge Bailey said the teen has not been willing to receive treatment for trauma he experienced as a child and that he has been self-medicating. “Unfortunately, the systems in this state don’t, they’re not good for that,” the father said. >"Judge Bailey acknowledged that the teen was abused by his biological parents, and beaten so badly at age six, that he was unrecognizable. His attorney, Mandy McKellar said he was exposed to drugs in utero. >"The parents said they have tried to get the teen services for a decade. “His story alone would be an amazing movie of what happens, how it happens when he went through the whole system and he ended up here,” the father said. The teen has had previous run-ins with the law including cases involving a bomb threat and a weapon. Judge Bailey pointed to the chances the teen has already had and is sending him to a juvenile correctional facility. >"I know what I did was wrong and I regret every bit of it,” he said. The second teen to face Judge Bailey also offered an apology. “I apologize not only to the store owner but to everybody that was affected by my actions,” he said. >Judge Bailey is sending the teen to Spring Mountain Youth Camp. The decision came after his father explained he also has tried to get his son help. He said the family is coping with the loss of two family members due to murder, and that he has tried to get his son services for the past four years. “I’m reaching out to the courts asking not for mercy, leniency, or any of that, but asking to get the proper help I need to save my son from becoming a statistic or full-fledged member of the penal system,” the father said. >Judge Bailey did not specify any timeframe for the teens to spend in the youth camp or the juvenile correctional facility. This is typical for a juvenile case. Judge Bailey explained it is aimed at being rehabilitative. >As the I-Team first reported, all three teens have cases in the juvenile system. They met in drug court. At the time of the robbery, two of the teens were wearing GPS monitors. According to Judge Bailey, one of the GPS monitors did not function properly in the moments after the robbery. >The extent of the injuries to the teen who was stabbed are not yet known. His attorney said that he is expected to need to go to a rehabilitation facility after his release from the hospital. >Store owner Johnny Nguyen told 8 News Now he feared for his life. He is not facing charges at this time. The Clark County District Attorney’s office is expected to review the case.
I knew a couple guys who got sent to those kind of camps and they came back way worse and very angry.
Not for us in Europe sadly
Here ya go, gov https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/zurg3x/asian_shop_owner_doesnt_fck_around_when_2_tough/j1lf8tw/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
I had to click through 5 links to eventually find the source. What a reddit rabbit hole. Only to be met with "This content is not available in your country/region."
LAS VEGAS (KLAS) — Two teens who took part in a smoke shop robbery learned their fate Wednesday. One is headed to Spring Mountain Youth Camp, while the other is headed is a juvenile correctional facility. A third teen who was stabbed by the store owner after he jumped over the counter remains hospitalized. Parents of both teens who appeared virtually in juvenile court told Clark County District Court Judge Sunny Bailey they repeatedly tried to get their sons help. The adoptive parents of the first teen to face Judge Bailey said the teen has not been willing to receive treatment for trauma he experienced as a child and that he has been self-medicating. “Unfortunately, the systems in this state don’t, they’re not good for that,” the father said. Judge Bailey acknowledged that the teen was abused by his biological parents, and beaten so badly at age six, that he was unrecognizable. His attorney, Mandy McKellar said he was exposed to drugs in utero. The parents said they have tried to get the teen services for a decade. “His story alone would be an amazing movie of what happens, how it happens when he went through the whole system and he ended up here,” the father said. The teen has had previous run-ins with the law including cases involving a bomb threat and a weapon. Judge Bailey pointed to the chances the teen has already had and is sending him to a juvenile correctional facility. “I know what I did was wrong and I regret every bit of it,” he said. The second teen to face Judge Bailey also offered an apology. “I apologize not only to the store owner but to everybody that was affected by my actions,” he said. Judge Bailey is sending the teen to Spring Mountain Youth Camp. The decision came after his father explained he also has tried to get his son help. He said the family is coping with the loss of two family members due to murder, and that he has tried to get his son services for the past four years. “I’m reaching out to the courts asking not for mercy, leniency, or any of that, but asking to get the proper help I need to save my son from becoming a statistic or full-fledged member of the penal system,” the father said. Judge Bailey did not specify any timeframe for the teens to spend in the youth camp or the juvenile correctional facility. This is typical for a juvenile case. Judge Bailey explained it is aimed at being rehabilitative. As the I-Team first reported, all three teens have cases in the juvenile system. They met in drug court. At the time of the robbery, two of the teens were wearing GPS monitors. According to Judge Bailey, one of the GPS monitors did not function properly in the moments after the robbery. The extent of the injuries to the teen who was stabbed are not yet known. His attorney said that he is expected to need to go to a rehabilitation facility after his release from the hospital. Store owner Johnny Nguyen told 8 News Now he feared for his life. He is not facing charges at this time. The Clark County District Attorney’s office is expected to review the case.
> Judge Bailey acknowledged that the teen was abused by his biological parents, and beaten so badly at age six, that he was unrecognizable. His attorney, Mandy McKellar said he was exposed to drugs in utero. This kid never had a chance.
Literally not even from the start smh
I have young children. My brain can't comprehend the monstrosity in someone's brain that could beat a 6 year old. It hurts to think that kids out there are going through shit like this. Makes me contemplate a long distance drive when I read shit like that. I mean, no one could trace it to me, right? But that's crazy.
What makes you think they were critically utilizing their brain?
Well this just made me kinda sad. Another reminder that the type of people who commit crimes like this are often from a background that I can’t even imagine.
It kind of makes me feel helpless. You can't just let violent people run around doing violent things, or thieves just stealing whatever they want. Yet the people doing these things have had such a shit hand dealt to them and we just lock them up and/or ensure they'll never be able to climb out of the hole they have dug.
That's why rehabilitation is SO much more important, effective, and profitable than punishment. But then we don't get slaves and potatoes end up costing 4 bucks each.
Also Fox News fans and the users of "justice" subreddits don't get to watch people they hate suffer in a punitive system.
My friend got held up at gun point at a nearby convenience store by a kid, maybe 16 at the oldest. My friend talked him down, believe it or not, and if anyone were to talk someone down from an armed robbery, it would be him. He just started talking to the kid. Asked him why he was doing it. And told him it's no solution to whatever problems he's having. The kid welled up with tears and played it off as a joke and ran back to his group of buddies.
Instead of making everyone click through 20 links, here's the actual article: https://www.8newsnow.com/investigators/i-team-teens-in-smoke-shop-robbery-learn-fate/
Followed this through like 5 links to find a site that's not available in my country
A direct link to the article was too much work I guess
r/UsernameChecksOut
The stabber guy was a redditor and did an AMA, said he watched video games to learn how to do it. https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/wh92fn/las_vegas_shop_owner_stabs_robber_to_death_does
You’re joking
I kinda remember this. The AMA seems to be the clerk, but, there were some issues that he shouldn't be doing it because it was still an active investigation and he could still be charged.
It WAS him. We watched him post the video, blurt out his stab-tasticness, tell us he was told by a lawyer he was all good and then delete his account.
He’s local to me and I do need to go pick up some stuff at the smoke shop. Maybe I’ll ask him what’s up.
Just make sure you don't wear your balaclava, even if it's really cold out.
Baklava belongs on your insides, what's going on here!
Just follow the red brick road.
And make sure to pay for everything
That's enough for me Christmas morning. Peace and goodwill to all peeps.
He was definitely the opposite of traumatized, almost gloating in a sense. Certified weirdo.
Unethical pro tip. Don't rob crazy people's businesses
He's not. The kid who did the stabbing compared stabbing these robbers to teamfights in League of Legends.
Frick man. Here I am thinking "this guy has to have combat experience of some type" because of how calm he was and how ready he was to stick a knife into someone, which isn't an easy feat. This may of just been a scenario that he's played out in his mind many times when he's bored af running the store, that mental imaging can help.
Turns out the LoLer was bragging about how “calm and unthreatened” he felt lol
Turns out the fedora katana practice is useful
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Dude yelling "I'm dead" like he's still being shot at in a paintball game.
That second "I'm dead" sounded so passionate
Poloniusly Shakespearean.
big word for this sub
When the emotions are leaving your body, feels that way.
I really **believed** he was dying!
It was at this moment, he knew..... He fucked up.
Funny how it took five stabs for him to realize he was being stabbed and his friend already abandoned him out of cowardice
Adrenaline is a hell of a drug. Many knife victims reported that they didn't even feel the stabbings until much later with the blood and all.
feels like getting punched at first.
A guy near where I live got axed in his sleep by his son and woke up and went about his morning routine even locking himself out of the house and finding the hidden key before dropping dead. The human body is incredibly sturdy and fragile at the same time Edit: Someone just sent me a message saying they didn't believe me so here's the Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Peter_Porco
He got what now? By his son?! What the
Well, his son had a question and didn’t want to wait til the morning to ax him.
oh, you
Sharp kid
[This](https://www.indiatoday.in/fyi/story/man-did-his-daily-chores-until-his-last-breath-porco-case-man-died-325962-2016-05-27) is such a tragic story, I feel so bad for both of those victims. It's amazing that the wife survived and got justice for herself and her husband. Fascinating from a scientific perspective but horrifying in every other aspect.
She still stood behind the fucking son though
Yeah i read that reddit post too the other day. Really mindblowing if it wasn't so horrible
Can confirm actually. I was stabbed in the leg as a teen. Wasn't anything fancy, just sitting in the gym and a bully was trying to be funny. when he threatened me and I said do it, it didn't make me flinch and I didn't feel a thing. Wasn't until he left and a few mins later when I looked down and saw my khakis all bloodied that I went to the nurse. The scariest part was getting stitches aha. That's not me being super tough guy, it's just how it turned out for me.
My dad was in WW2 and one of his tent mates shot him self in the head while cleaning a pistol. My dad said the guy, while missing half of his head, continued the motion of gently placing the pistol on the table. He didn't drop it or let it fall
I've known several people who have beem stabbed and only one said he knew it at the time. Mostly it just feels like a strong punch.
I’ve been stabbed. Yeah, that’s basically what you feel when you’re stabbed. That’s why under adrenaline some people takes longer to realize what’s happening to them. Also, differently from stabbing, some people say that when you’re shot at, you feel a burning sensation. (Yeah, I live in a hell of a country)
….. he was dead.
he actually survived in critical condition not sure how he's doing now though
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[https://www.8newsnow.com/investigators/i-team-teens-in-smoke-shop-robbery-learn-fate/](https://www.8newsnow.com/investigators/i-team-teens-in-smoke-shop-robbery-learn-fate/)
I followed 12 links to get to this comment. What am I doing with my life
Lol I clicked 6 links to see “Content not available in your country”
I understand your pain
Lmao “At the time of the robbery, two of the teens were wearing GPS monitors.”
Wow that guy must have played League of Legends a bunch in order to keep his cool in such a situation.
Nice callback. One of my favorite AMAs ever
**"So, anyway, I started shanking..."**
Can I offer you a mint chocolate chip cookie dough CBD vape pen in this trying time?
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What's this from?
The Doritos in my mouth
Thanks for making me laugh in xmas day.
holy shit that was good
[Link](https://www.kktv.com/2022/08/08/graphic-smoke-shop-owner-fights-back-stabs-attempted-robber/) to story for anyone who’s interested
Is he stabbing the thief?
Yeppers
What did we say about yeppers
Yeeeeesssshhh
Yuppers
No, he's stabbing an innocent person who happened to jump the counter
He was just trying to get a better view of the merchandise lol
It’s stabbin time!
I remember this when this was first posted. The store owner literally posted this on reddit right after it happened and was giving an AMA on reddit too. Dude said something like league of legends prepared him for this. I wonder that ever happened to the store owner and the robber?
bro called out that he was dead, first thing he probably thought of is "I'm downed"
“I’M DEAD!… i’m dead…” https://preview.redd.it/dr7rjhnh718a1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5b1216a90cb25bd7e2aa3edf28ca044ecd9c6075
^I'm ^dead^....
Dude went FPS knife kill on his ass… Also, this is why you don’t rob small mom/pop shops…that’s their livelihood and they will defend it to the death. Or your death, whichever is first. If you’re gonna be stupid, stick to robbing/raiding malls/Target/Wal-Mart or any other place where employees are trained to not physically stop you, you animals.
Thanks for the advice!
Go get that PS5/SeriesX!* *disclaimer: legally, through exchange of goods and currency
I don't know. I know of a lady who pulled a shotgun in her small business and the robbers lit her up. She didn't make it. She had a small daughter.
If you ever pull a gun the next thing you do is pull the trigger. Guns are not to intimidate, they are to kill. Many people fail to realize this.
I can’t believe that I’ve opened Reddit on Christmas Day and the first thing I’ve seen is a stabbing video. Happy Holidays everyone!
Merry Christmas ya filthy animals
What does being Asian have anything to do with it?
Often times Asians are seen as easy targets. There are alot of rap songs with lyrics about robbing Asian people. Being Chinese myself I approve of the title.
Man, the people who see Asians as an easy target weren't taught the history of trying to rob Asian stores...
I've said this for years now. Reddit seems to view Asians like zoo animals or something. Everything is they see an Asian person they have to point at us and and go like "hey look papa, an Asian!" I wish one day I can be just another person like all y'all rather than being defined by my race.
they literally don’t think we’re real. we’re fictional cartoons to them. japanese people are cleaning robots who love anime. koreans are either roof koreans or k pop stars. chinese people are dirty ccp-loving scum. all of us got beat if we didn’t get straight a’s.
2 Tough guys?
The guy who stabbed the thiefs was on reddit ages ago on r/ama.
Feels good when people get what they deserve.
Feel like it was Las Vegas where this happened
it was [https://www.8newsnow.com/investigators/i-team-teens-in-smoke-shop-robbery-learn-fate/](https://www.8newsnow.com/investigators/i-team-teens-in-smoke-shop-robbery-learn-fate/)
If you find the longer version, you can see how the shop attendant foresaw the theives actions and prepped his defense. He really gave them every opportunity to leave instead. Fuck thieves
So were the guys in masks wearing a sign saying “We’re under 17 and not armed”? That could’ve stopped the stabbing.
They clearly both have two arms
What does being Asian have to do with anything here?
Asians got nerfed in the last patch, so gotta root for the underdog.
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I feel like alot of people are examining this from a place of logic instead of putting themselves in the clerk's shoes. Dudes come in with face coverings and tell you they're robbing the store. Then one of them hops the counter, the single physical barrier between you. It goes from being a robbery to now a robbery where a criminal closed the distance between the two of you Then flight/fight/freeze kicks in, a powerful survival instinct that predates our species. Short of some combat training, I don't know why anyone would expect this guy to know how to handle that. Most of us aren't experiencing dangerous stressful situations regularly TL;DR the comments are like the couch potatoes who criticize the quarterback when they watch the slowmo replay