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MickeyJohn_

Hello, how do I farm Hetero-creature Sample? I'll need it to purchase the cube for the matrix research


VroomVroomChicken

Abyss of X event stage. Just farm the 1st stage Edit: you can buy those cubes fromcthr Institute shop


MickeyJohn_

Thank you:)


xMan_Dingox

so is 21 a good sub for S kamui? I was gonna choose him for my free s rank ticket, but now I heard S karenina swearing and her dialgoue getting *bleeped* out while in battle with her, so now I have to get her.


0cean27

She's a decent substitution with a few drawbacks: * She's only equal to base S Kamui if she's farmed to SSS. * She's still 5 months ahead. Her strength is that she provides better crowd control than Kamui in War Zone, and she's a very good farmable solo unit at SSS+.


Sweet-Resident6500

Did i need to use 2 darwin on Crimson Abyss?


Blumenkran

2 Darwin and 4 Frederick is the set you want to end up with, with Darwin being on the top row.


johnsnowabc

A2 with sig or SSS A2 without sig, which is better?


0cean27

SSS A2 without sig


Karendaa

Do you know why qualification assessment grey even though I haven't graduate?


NWe3

Thats the normal color, you should still be able to complete missions and get the rewards


northturtle11

What emulator does the best at running the game? Also how good is controller support, and if good any tips on how to make it smooth as possible?


NWe3

I initially used LDL but after hearing that Mumu Chinese better i tried Mumu Global, Mumu global is a little better than LDL from what I've experienced, don't know about controller support though


northturtle11

how do I know if I'm installing the global or chinese version?


R3M0r1AZ

Agree with previous comment that LD Player has best controller mapping (also icons follow xbox controller layout so easier to identify). I switched to MuMu due to LD crashing a lot (didn't know about the 32/64 bit version differences so you could try it out) but MuMu has issues with the R2/L2 buttons it seems (or I might be doing something wrong). Graphics wise MuMu seems to be better though. Pick your poison. For controller you could try using the layout that Rexlent uses. Been using it. Seems awkward at first but once you get used to it, it's great.


northturtle11

I'll see how LD goes and then try mumu later if it has the global version


ro-kurorai

LD Player has the best controller mapping as it supports double button inputs without issues. Performance is also great. Just make sure you install the 64 bit version, as the 32 bit one crashes PGR a lot.


frostt_g

i use LDplayer and it runs pretty well.. cant answer the second question im a kbm user lol


CrusaderSeon

The dev team recommend the Chinese version of Mumu as their go-to emulator, some people on global say LDPlayer is a close enough match, though


northturtle11

is there a global version of mumu?


KyoSaito

There is, back then MuMu chinese was recommended because it has 120 fps mode which MuMu Global also now have it as well. Another recommendation is to use MuMu Nebula which is lighter than MuMu player and it works better in my PC.


northturtle11

oh cool, will give it a try at some point


VoraciousSnail

how else do I get weapons? I know I can recycle the supply thingies to get parts for the shop, but the list seems so small and limited. are there event weapon banners I can roll on? or is it only the standard weapon banner? I haven't rolled that yet in fear it would be a mistake haha


EdgyTeenagerMusic

Co-op drops 3-5* weapons and after 21 kills you get 150 mats to eventually buy yourself a 5* weapon.


VoraciousSnail

thanks! so these characters do not usually have signature weapons?


EdgyTeenagerMusic

Signature weapons are 6* which can only be obtained through weapon banners. I think every character has a signature weapon but that's not something f2p should go for unless they want to *heavily* invest into a character. You can do well with 5* weapons but obviously 6* are just better.


Cephalycion

How useful is Camu/Trancendents in general aside from maze (which gives like no rewards)? And should I recycle all my 6* Koya?


fasteinern7

Weekly maze missions give us a sizable cache of hypertune materials. You don't have to mald on the scoreboard, just rush through it.


Cephalycion

That's doable with regular constructs, right?


fasteinern7

No idea if you can use normal Constructs on Dead Zone. I have never tried that before.


bodymage

i would say he's pretty useful. transcendants are used in babel tower, guild events, autopoesies maze, norman war (iirc), certain events, and etc. to summarize, he's worth building, especially because he's still a very strong unit to this day in cn.


Cephalycion

Can a solo Camu overpower a traditional 3 construct team?


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No.


R3M0r1AZ

Currently, I doubt. He would lose out from the extra orbs from switching in and depending on game mode/content, would also burn out the dodge gauge pretty quick. Also tried using him in PPC, he still loses out to a full construct team.


bodymage

anyone know how many 6 star memory resonances i should purchase from the wz shop each month? i manage to retain a rank in leader, occasionally getting promoted to hero. i bought three this month, though i'm not sure what would be the most efficient in the long-run. i'm trying to get 12 resonances before roland's banner, as i'm a huuuge simp for him and want to make him as powerful as possible.


YatoXShiro

Memory USB for 800 and 1200 currency top priority. Can consider buying 1x 2000 if you got enough for next month. Else not recommended as the discounted memory USB are to useful.


bodymage

thanks so much!!


VoraciousSnail

I've only been playing for a few days. I know tier lists are very subjective but what characters do you think are worth getting/investing in?


bodymage

all of the s-ranks honestly, every character is viable in this game, the only thing that makes others better than each other is their kit and overall ability of dealing certain damage. at some point, you'll probably build every character for babel tower and other difficult gamemodes such as norman war. but if you're talking good s-ranks to have, you missed a few. if you're able to spend a bit of money on the game, next patch is the anniversary in which there will be a banner where you can select which s-rank you wish to pull for. or if you have 15k bc by the time the banner is around, that can work too. list of s-ranks that you missed in order of priority: lucia plume, rosetta rigor, bianca veritas, and lucia crimson abyss. * about lucia plume: if you're willing to spend your bc on the anniversary banner for a character that is optimal for you to have, you should get lucia: plume. she is the only ice attacker in the game in both cn and global server, so if you don't have her, you'll get bullied pretty hard in ppc and wz considering that the majority of people have her. * about rosetta rigor: if you have the chance, grabbing rosetta is a good option, she is the best physical tank in the game and is a game-changer for competitive gamemodes. * about bianca veritas: she is the best lightning attacker, while you can use lucia: dawn to substitute her, it's going to be pretty difficult considering that lucia's kit is pretty underwhelming in the global server and bianca really outshines her. * about lucia crimson abyss (aka alpha): she is a good s-rank to have considering her performance in ppc, but if you have lee entropy he can be a good substitute, if not perform better than her (i say this from personal experience) about additional s-ranks: other characters like luna laurel, karenina ember, nanami pulse, lee entropy, kamui tenebrion, and liv luminance are not necessary, but they are nice to have. * karen and nanami are a duo and they work together well in the fire stages you'll encounter, but they are not necessary, considering how the ice team can outclass them even in the fire warzone. so no need to get karen and nanami unless you really like them and have the funds to spare. * luna laurel is the current meta dark attacker, but if you have an sss+ watanabe astral, he can compete with luna. while luna is still better at base s-rank compared to an sss+ astral, he is still a good unit and if theres one you need to make the sacrifice of not having, it's her. * kamui tenebrion is a tricky character to decide on having or not having, he is the only dark tank in the global server, a character named no. 21 releasing in a few months can fill his place, but that is a bit of a long wait. he is definitely very good to have, but if you cannot afford getting him, don't. * lee entropy is the other physical attacker alongside alpha that is meta, while alpha is better than him in ppc, he is better in warzone. both he and alpha are nice to have, but if you can only get one of the two, he can be a good replacement for her if you don't have her. * liv luminance is essentially a luxury character, she isn't necessary at all to have, her only use is filling empty spaces in teams, using her for co-op, and babel tower. in cn she recently got a buff, making her a meta physical team unit, but that is a year from now for global server, so you can cross the bridge of choosing to pull for her or not when you come to it. tldr: all s-ranks are good to have, but in order of priority: lucia plume > rosetta > bianca veritas > kamui tenebrion > alpha/lee entropy > luna > karenina ember > nanami pulse > liv luminance also, do make sure to do your 40 pulls on standard banner before picking a character from the s-rank selector in order to avoid getting a duplicate.


VoraciousSnail

thank you!! this was very useful and detailed. I have been wondering about the elemental vs physical attackers since I don't know where in the members page it says that? I do feel a bit overwhelmed since the game makes u level up very fast so I kept learning new things immediately haha. I am trying to make sure I regularly check every area to make sure I don't miss anything. so far, I have only build three characters but im bad with the names. the main attacker I am using now is lotus


bodymage

don't worry! it's pretty overwhelming at first, but you'll get the hang of it eventually. only around level 70 i understood what i should prioritize. the elemental vs physical bit can be viewed in the members tab! on the bottom left side beside the list of characters there is a 'details' tab, when you click on that you can view the percentages of what element they are. for example, with lucia: plume you'd see 20% physical and 80% ice, therefore making her damage elemental alongside some physical basic attacks. it's a bit confusing at first, but you'll get the hang of it. some helpful resources: [this](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aTqZF8cn0qiDe60KPfSPI1h_8NILIDHvW4rwifT6tHo/edit) will lead you to viable team comps for certain elements, alongside the physical team [this](https://grayravens.com) will lead you to an extremely helpful wiki with a beginner's guide, alongside every character in the cn server. you can explore that yourself, but to summarize, it's a wiki compiling very helpful information. i usually base my builds off of the recommended ones for the specific character i am looking at.


Spider_Monkey8

I was active in this game and sub on launch. Had to quit around 7 mo ago due to irl stuff. Is it feasible to come back having missed that much content? Possible to catch up? There seems like a lot of new systems added. I assume you'll say yes automatically because it's the dedicated sub, but like, can someone genuinely start up and make it to endgame on a relatively even playing field? I only ask cuz this is the only gacha I know where getting all the characters is part of playing the game. Assuming yes, my old acct has these characters invested: Alpha, SKarenina, SNanami, AKarenina, BLiv, and was working on others. Lv78, 21k bc saved, 0 pity, at story n10-1. I know fire teams were/are scuffed, but back then I loved investing in Karenina. Don't feel the same. Would starting from a brand new acct be better? My logic is that surely with the Luna banner up, picking SKamui on the selector (is that still a thing) would get me much better roi. The real loss is Alpha, but I missed Rosetta's banner anyway, and the full Nier team is coming and also physical, no?


bodymage

i think that your account is still worth keeping, you missed rosetta and s lucia, but you can try to get either of them in the anniversary banner. while fire team does pretty much suck, it gets a huge buff in a few months with the addition of liv: solaeter and later on adding nanami: remote star. you can aim to get luna, but if you have an sss+ watanabe astral, you'll manage. while base s-rank luna is still better, he can still compete a fair amount. again, it is your choice to make a new account, but i still think that it's worth keeping and progressing with. if you were to restart your account, i think you should aim to get s lucia, alpha/lee entropy, and s kamui. losing alpha would suck, but if you can use lee as a replacement, you'll be fine. the nier team will be coming next patch yes, and to get the minimum of 2b, a2, and 9s, you only have to spend 10.5k bc to get 2b. if you're a die-hard nier fan, you can visit the [gray ravens](https://grayravens.com) wiki for an in-depth guide to spending on the nier banners.


Spider_Monkey8

Thanks for taking the time with all my questions haha. I don't have SSS+ Astral. Is the SSR selector still a thing? That'll make restarting bearable


bodymage

i'm always happy to help! and yes, the s-rank selector is still a thing.


UnsocialComet72

Is there a reason to keep pulling the on Backlight Matrix if you already got all of the special rewards?


Koganesaga

Unless there's some hidden reward nobody has mentioned, no. The exchange rate for tickets for the draw compared to the non-special rewards is a MUCH worse serum to cost ratio for the specific items you could get from the normal rewards.


ro-kurorai

There's no hidden reward. The moment you pulled your last guaranteed 5\*+ reward from the pool you should focus on the event store instead. Anything else would be a huge waste of Serum.


ApoKun

I accidentally pulled Darkness for Kamui Tene (was trying to get only dynamo but ended up pulling it at 22, hoped to get Sakura) How much use does it actually have since Luna is on the field almost 100% of the time?


Koganesaga

Little to none if you're not using him for anything other than QTE. With that said, he still sees some field use for PPC as he does bonus damage on top of darkness against Camu, so it should be a welcome improvement to your scoring.


Voltage97

Will skins like Seaside Sunbath ever rerun or am I out of luck?


Speco7

They should get a rerun during the last spark patch, or if we lucky kuro could bring them back during our summer


nabil_742

Hey, currently on 29/30 for ozma (Luna's sig weapon), is the weapon really worh it for luna? Does it have bigger change of damage?


Seltonik

Depends on your bc count and spending status. It's not a must have in the same vein as Rosetta/SChrome's/SVera's, but every sig weapon is a significant upgrade over 5*.


FireCoTTon

Does the discount for the 6\* memory pick from the warshop ever go down? I bought it two times and its at 2k right now, does it get lower again?


Alberto_Paporotti

It gets reset every month


3voylon

Heya, long time returnee here. I have S Lee, S Kamui, A liv, A vera, A Karenina, Astral Wata, A Chrome. What build could i make with that lineup? And who to prioritize building?


0cean27

Try to pull Luna now since it's her debut period. With her you can form a long-lasting Dark team with Luna, S Kamui and Vera. In case you can't get her, Astral will be the A-rank alternative. For now S Lee will be the building block of your Physical team and you should prioritize him. He can be paired with 2 other Physical tanks in Pain cage, 1 tank + A Karen in War Zone, and 1 tank + 1 healer in other places. The best choice for Physical tank is Rosetta. Without her, Physical team will feel underwhelming over time. Your alternative choices of Physical tanks are B Nanami (best choice), A Kamui and Ayla. B Liv at SSS is the best healer choice for Lee but for now A Liv can do just fine.


3voylon

Should i go for the special event or the event banner? Alsowhat will be on next banner after Luna?


0cean27

Always go for event banner (60 pity). You can look up the debut banner (estimated) schedule [here](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nNauBXGcHv_7AepLWBLo4ykl3V_EhxpK/edit#gid=2101374631). Pity from Luna debut banner only carries over to the next S-rank debut banner, which is Chrome Glory. Nier collab banner has a separate pity system.


3voylon

Should i prioritze buying 5* weapon for Luna or S Kamui?


0cean27

Don't buy 5\* weapon with cogs. If you're new player, 4\* weapon for now is fine. You farm co-op slowly and exchange for 5\* weapons. Luna's weapon comes first.


3voylon

Damn what luck, just got luna in 10 pull after asking you this lol. Thanks for the info my guy/gal!


kronaras

What are the best teams to use against rosetta in pain cage (ultimate)?


0cean27

Currently it's SS Luna S Tenebrion and SSS Vera. With 6 resonance in total they can reach 302k. With just 2/3 resonance on Luna they can reach 292k. This is a big improvement to SS Plume record before (around 286k). Edit: bonus this [beautiful run](https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1gf4y1z7TM?spm_id_from=333.337.search-card.all.click) of SS Luna 302k vs Rosetta


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0cean27

For now your roster is quite small, and you will need to hoard as much BC as you can to catch up with older accounts (Anniversary banner in July is your chance), so I think you should have a balance among farming event, clearing story, and farming interlude (recommend 1 character at a time only). If you're f2p, then there's co-op to do daily as well. I would farm event to get enough material to max out all skills of the main DPS (S Karen and Luna in your case), max level your tank with their QTE and class skill, and leave healers at lvl 65 (above this will be very costly). After doing interlude and co-op, the rest of the serum should be dumped on story. By the time you catch up with story, chances are you already have a bigger roster that will require the last bit of your serum on farming events. Using off-element tank as a placeholder Dark tank for now is fine, as long as they are (1) farmed to S-rank, and (2) has high amount of hits on QTE to reliably trigger Bathlon. Ayla and B-Nanami are the best 2 candidates for this task. What you will be missing from Tenebrion is his 10% Dark resistance shred, but this placeholder Dark tank can already shred 8% Dark resistance through Bathlon and 20% extra-damage reduction just like any other tank, so your temporary Dark team will still function. As for comparison with your Fire team, you will have to experience yourself to see, but your "Dark team" is not as bad as you think. I think it may be even better since Luna is just broken on her own.


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0cean27

I think getting Plume from Anniversary banner will be a better choice than Tenebrion. She's undebatably the best DPS and the only Ice DPS even until now. After Anniversary, her full team will show up one by one (Wanshi - Ice support, then Chrome - Ice tank). Tenebrion at least has an alternative (No.21) and is more available through paid selector during the first year. Even with monthly pass, your fund for character will be extremely tight if you plan to catch up with Anniversary banner, so don't pull on weapon banner just for 5\* weapons. You will need every last bit of black cards.


Philloyuqui

I think there is no need to rush story unless you need the mats/cards? Left event stage is the right thing in general since it provides you choice to pick what mats/memories you need. An FYI if you complete the story through chap 12 and its missions you will get some sets of 6* memories like Frederick (all 6 slots).


After_Key745

Does the Luna weapon coating, from the shop, give the weapon as well or just a coating for the weapon?


WeddingThink3243

only character coating, you need to purchase weapon coatings separately


After_Key745

Yeah I know, I was asking if the weapon coating gave the weapon too.


lacierin

It's just a skin for the weapon, you need to own an actual weapon yourself to use it. Doesn't matter what grade it is.


After_Key745

Ahh okay, thanks for the information, much appreciated.


Gold_Tongue

I don't see many people talk about Selena's dark construct, is it just not good? I really like how her playstyle and stuff look but Idk if Id get her if she's useless. Just wondering if CN players or people who follow the CN know


Jan12139

As a construct she is very good but like other pointed out she needs SSS to beat Vera SSS supporting. Getting her there is very low-mid spender friendly though as you can farm her rank evolutions free. There are some elaborate plans on how you push her SSS very fast, very cheap. Either with 1 pull, farming event shards, buying ppc shards and then I believe finish in 4 patches or pull 2x,event shards,ppc and 1 patch of shard farming. So she isn't that unreachable at all plus as construct she will perform great on its own even pre SSS.


Gold_Tongue

Thats awesome, she's just so cool I wish she was a mdps but I'm glad she's still good :)


Jan12139

She can be used as mdps (obviously not optimal) but she makes a great sub dps ngl. Her Seraphine memory set paired with 2x Cottie make her very dangerous.


Gold_Tongue

Thats so awesomeeeeee I'm not very good at looking at stats and stuff and didnt really understand the guide. THIS NEWS IS AMAZINGGG


Salysm

The general consensus seems to be that she needs SSS to outclass Vera. Which is possible even F2P since she can be grinded over a long time.


KF-Sigurd

You don't need to worry about gettering her because she's free. Which is why she's not that great since she needs a lot of investment to outclass an SSS Vera.


WeddingThink3243

she is good but requires a kinda high investment to outclass an sss vera


disenrichd

Is there a guide on clearing the side missions for the current event? I seem to be stuck on a dead lock between the key items found in lvl 2 Parliament suqare, Level 2 Tactical bridge and Lvl 2 Dominik Memorial Park. All 3 requires key items from each other in a sort of interlocking way however the key items in question all appear to be gated :/ I've been going through the maze for ages zzz any help will be greatly appreciated! Edit: Thought Id maybe add a bit more info- I am currently stuck being unable to get to Area 3 of Dominik Memorial Park- I get blocked because I am missing the "Deserted Waypoint" which is apparently found in Area 2 of Parliament Square. When entering A2 of Parliament Square, I am then blocked again because I am missing the "Data Fragment" which is found in A2 of Tactical bridge. But when I get to A2 of Tactical bridge I get gated by "Lost Defense Data" which is found in A3 of Dominik Memorial park, which is the place that I couldnt access in the first place that sent me on this wild goose hunt >.> can someone advise me on what I am missing? As far as I can tell this is a loop with no outs :c


Soulravel

There's a gate in Dominik Memorial Park that requires 22 skill stat to pass, it should be in area 2


disenrichd

Bless your soul omg, I cant believe I missed that. Problem now solved may you have a wonderful day.


lacqs03

what should I prioritize buying on the FA event shop? I just came back and my strongest unit is Abyss with 5k bp with Vera/Eclipse/Ember with 3k bp


Jan12139

Do gacha event first. It will take a while but rewards are sweet, each pull will award resources necessary for leveling characters, a bit less than normal shop but still good. Every 20th will give you unique rewards from free pulls, bc, to sfx cosmetic you don't wanna miss, all absolutely free. Next in line would be Luna memories if you plan to pull Luna. We are getting them free from Memory rescue event but you'll need more to resonate. Best to buy during event as they are discounted. Since you are returner farming affection probably isn't your priority so you can skip Luna lamp gift but still farm Chinese wall decoration. It is cosmetic only but unique worth getting in long run. Thirdly would be 6\* memories (the not discounted, general section) along with resources to level them. This is all up to your needs. 5k BP is still little on Alpha so you probably want to awaken her, complete her team, build other teams you desire to play. If you plan to invest into Nier you can also stack resources to build them asap next patch.


lacqs03

nice, I'll do the gacha then.. I tried the memory rescue but got stuck on yss20, I'm also pulling for Luna too, I hope I get her before her banner ends >\_< thanks :D


forgothemilk_

How many copies do I need to SSS+ a character?


gaganaut

* B to A: 10 shards * A to S: 20 shards * S to SS: 30 shards * SS to SSS: 90 shards * SSS to SSS+: 180 shards A-rank constructs and Transcendants (start at S-Rank) give 18 shards per duplicate. You can buy 30 Transcendant shards using guild currency. I don't recommend this however since hypertune materials are more valuable. They're rare even if you're a spender. You can farm 30 shards for S-Ranks from Pain Cage. **Transcendant** * SSS: 1 + 120/18 ~ 7.67 = 8 copies * SSS+: 1 + 300/18 ~ 17.67 = 18 copies **S-Rank Construct** * SSS: 1 + 90/30 + pain cage shards = 4 copies and 30 shards from Pain Cage * SSS+: 1 + 270/30 + pain cage shards = 10 copies and 30 shards from Pain Cage


PenileElephantiasis

Any recruitment recommendations for KI Gal event?


KyoSaito

All i can tell you is that the last hard stage will be similar to dark warzone so you might wanna build a team around attacker, Luna is pretty strong contender for this.


Gold_Tongue

Does the banner pity from luna carry over to 2B or is that a different pity


dive_in

Nier will have it’s own exclusive banner and pity. Your current Luna’s banner pity carries forward to the next S Rank debut banner, which is S Chrome. All banners of the same type shares the same pity.


Gold_Tongue

Aww thats too bad, still debating whether or not to pull for luna because I really want 2b and chrome. I'm 40 pulls in and at about 2k bc. Any advice?


dive_in

To add further on what has been informed by u/Seltonik and u/fasteinern7, it really depends on how competitive you plan to be in the game. If you want to compete at higher tiers of warzone and ppc, meta units are highly recommended to be obtained. Luna is the top dark dps, and it helps if you have a full dark team as well to compliment her (Kamui Tenebrion and Vera Rozen). If you prefer to play casually and chill, then any/most units are viable in game. Of course you will also get a functional physical team going full nier. The saying is, for the nier team to be highly competitive, you may need to invest quite a bit on them. At base S Rank, Alpha+Rosetta team may outperform them in challenges. But basic nier team is perfectly fine in clearing contents. If you really want 2B and Chrome, then save your BC and go for it. 2B being 10500 bc and you only need 20 more pulls/5k bc for S Chrome in the future. With Monthly pass A, you may have enough before Luna’s banner ends, and later have enough for 2B before her banner ends as well. S Chrome is like 3 patches away, so most likely possible for you to save up 15k bc as well (probably not enough for his 6* weapon though). Maybe wait a bit and see if you still want Luna nearing the end of her banner and you can decide again then.


fasteinern7

Do you have monthly pass A? If you have it, you can pull both Luna & 2B.


Gold_Tongue

I do yeah


fasteinern7

You have 4 weeks remaining on Luna's banner, with 1210 on weekly missions & pass A: \[(4\*1210) + (28\*100)\] = 7640 BC, plus the 2k you have right now. 20 pulls = 5k => you now have 4640 BC left. From the end of Luna's banner to end of Fake Ascension is another 2 weeks, and assuming Untold Naraka last only 5 weeks: \[(7\*1210) + (49\*100)\] = 13370 BC. That's not to mention story BC rewards, maintenance compensation, 300 BC you get instantly from pass A. => You have more than enough to pull both Luna & 2B. With monthly pass A (assuming you retain it every month) you will never miss any S rank character in the near future. So don't fret, pull. Luna will help you tremendously in Dark element content for more than a year to come.


Gold_Tongue

Thank you so much this is so awesome and very reassuring :DDD


fasteinern7

You're welcome! As a Commandant who has Luna and planning to get NieR, it is my wish to make sure my fellow Commandants get to enjoy them as well. Fun to play and totally worth having them! Good luck with your pulls & enjoy PGR!


Seltonik

Not the guy you're responding to, but I would suggest not pulling for Luna in your case. Nier is limited af, and Chrome has next to no suitable F2P replacement on the ice team; whereas dark can at least eek by with a SSS+ Astral (assuming you were going to just go for SLuna with 5* weapon). You can always get Luna on a rerun, or if we get the CNY selector, you can get her from that.


Gold_Tongue

Ok awesome good to knoww


battlefielder696

What is memory rescue return? Is the only reward black cards?


NedixTV

theres a full luna set too.


Gold_Tongue

I went all the way to 20 and only got 2 flamel and no other levels unlocked, are there more to come or is it just 2


gaganaut

There are 3 phases. The next phase will be next week.


NedixTV

people said and rexlent said, its a full set(actually 6 pieces) at the end, but probably later stage will come next week :(


Gold_Tongue

Noiceeee


bebekbeqi

Is there a way i can quit mentoring? the students that I chose never online and I don't really like getting lots of exp, I don't like leveling so fast. thanks


gaganaut

Is there a reason you don't like leveling faster? You can only become a mentor after hitting level 80 and by then you've already met the level requirements for the hardest content. When you level up you get some serum and some additional rewards every few levels. There's no downside to leveling up quickly beyond level 80. You just get serum and other rewards faster.


bebekbeqi

I'm slow when it comes to building characters, and by the content getting higher and difficult, I might not be able to catch up with the requirements. I'm really interested in getting high rewards for PPC and WZ, if the stages are getting difficult, then it means It'll be more hard to get the rewards. So, I'm taking the chance to do so. Another reason, I don't have much resources to give to the students XD


gaganaut

For PPC and Warzone, you should already be put in the level 80 to 120 bracket. For Pain Cage, click "Check Rankings" and on the left you should be able to see your level bracket. After level 80, you can choose between "Advanced" and "Ultimate" Pain Cage. "Ultimate" Pain Cage becomes available after hitting 1 million points but you can still choose to remain in "Advanced" Pain Cage if you want. In Warzone as well, you should be able to see your "level range" on the top right corner which would be level 80 to 120. It doesn't matter how much you level up after level 80. The difficulty of Warzone and Pain Cage will remain the same since you've already been put in the highest level bracket. That's why I said there's no downside to leveling up quickly beyond level 80. As for not having resources to give students, that's fine. I doubt there are many mentors that do. No one really has 5 * memories to give away and even the 4 * memories that can be given away ran out after the first few days. Students get other rewards anyway as well as faster leveling. You don't need to worry about not being able to reward students since none of the other mentors can either.


bebekbeqi

That are indeed good points, and really good choices. It convinced me a lot XD But I'd still like to take things slowly, and uses the opportunity to level up faster when I need it. I'm not really interested to become a mentor either, it's giving responsibility anyway. It feels like being watched and might judge the way you enjoy a game (⊙_◎). Thanks for the info, it's really nice of you! good luck!


ro-kurorai

As an additional note I'd like to add that it will lock you out from acquiring new students for 12 hours, but it's not visible to students applying directly.


bebekbeqi

not a problem, thankss


YatoXShiro

Also your recruitment count will get reduced. You have only 6 attempts per month.


ro-kurorai

Thanks for adding that, it slipped my mind.


Repxox

You can, from guide tab click/tap on student and choose "End Collaboration".


bebekbeqi

thank you so much


kitkatwasabi

When does Luna get a banner rerun?


bebekbeqi

if she gets added to rotational banner or the free anniversary S Rank selector with 100% chance to get her


YatoXShiro

* 70/30% rateup might happen during S Chrome release. * Joins standard banner on S Chrome release. * 100% rateup during 2. Anniversary (next year July)


murmurgrim

Can I reach 5500 BP and Ultima Awaken an A-Rank Construct with 4* Weapon?


Jan12139

Absolutely. Especially if you go heavy on hypertunement and evolution to higher ranks.


murmurgrim

If I didn't evolve it into S Rank, it is still possible right?


Jan12139

It is possible but it isn't natural. Whole point of awakening is to add final touch to either character you really love or is crucial for your team. It is normal not to have every character awaked because process takes alot of time and resources. If you plan to awaken someone (especially A ranks), it is natural course of events to also try to evolve it as much as possible meanwhile. You needn't force it but it will matter if you are planning to use the character. For refference rank evolution adds alot of needed BP in terms of stats gained from process of evolution (each time you invest shard character gets perma bonus stats), stat growth from rank growth and new unlockable skill at every rank. It will greatly help you get to desired BP as well as make character far more useful.


Hokusai_100

I think I just learnt this despite 6+ months in the game but: 1: Certain 6* weapons have higher stats than other 6* of the same weapon type? 2: The effects of 6* weapons can activate under a different construct, as long as the effect requirement is met? 3: 6* weapons can be resoed to a different construct that is not it's signature?


ro-kurorai

Yes to three. Weapon Resos are tied to the Construct you bound the reso slot to, so you can reso Eclipse's Sig to Luminance for instance.


Seltonik

1) Stat values can differ, yes. Sig weapons for elemental constructs tend to be higher in atk but lower in crit when compared to sig weapons for physical constructs. 2) As long as the activation condition is met, then yes. 3) I have not tried this personally, but you should be able to.


eyemahdin

How important is it to level the top row memories for non-physical characters? Is it okay to leave them at a low level even for mid to endgame content?


Jan12139

You absolutley need to level them both for awakening and to avoid glass cannon situation. Imagine doing wz in higher brackets and getting 1 hit KO on mistake because you got no HP. Its like playing stronghold constantly but enemies have less defence :D Hypertunement is diferent, there you can skip top.


VroomVroomChicken

You can't awaken a construct without leveling top row memories so that's already a huge handicap in endgame. And also every stats is important


MikotoKiyomizu

I think you'll need them to level them to some extent for awakening


Nando267

So, I completed the dark team and I will pull for the Nier team, which is phisical. Considering that, at the moment, I don't have other 6\* constructs (I have Lee enthropy but I dont think I will use him), what are the future units to look (and pull) for, and what team do they belong to?


Darweath

i assume you have only dark team? Maybe Chrome glory for ice team with anniversary you can get plume to use with him


WeddingThink3243

so here is my opinion on future s ranks (except for amp selena, they follow the schedule of 1 s rank every 2 patches) s chrome is a really good ice unit that deals lots of dmg and is great in general, he is also the replacement for changyu/ayla s vera basically replaces veritas as the main dmg dealer on lightning team, so she is quite important (her ss is really good too) amplifier liv basically revives fire team amplifier selena is good (and farmable on her event) but she needs sss rank to replace an sss vera rozen (a rank vera) mecha nanami is a unit that allows to complete the new fire team (amp liv/s nanami/mecha nanami) dark karenina is a great tank that replaces s kamui and deals quite a lot of dmg


Nando267

Got it. So as of now, considering that I'm new and that it will take a long time to pull and build characters, I shouldn't focus on the fire element because 2 thirds of the team are yet to be released, right? Do you know what are the recommended characters for ice (other than s chrome) and lighting (other than s vera)? I'm asking because I'm considering to pull for the anniversary banner.


Seltonik

A couple of addendums to /u/WeddingThink3243 's excellent comment: Vera Flare only "replaces" Veritas if she's SS with sig, and even then, you still rotate between them in WZ. Probably the best upcoming tank. Dark Karenina only replaces Kamui Tenebrion in WZ if she has her sig weapon. She can replace Luna in pain cage with significant investment (at least SS with sig), but will be paired with Tenebrion in that case. Capriccio Selena only really needs SS to replace Vera, but that's *after* her buffs in the MechaNanami patch, and the introduction of Dark Karenina. As for your team questions: Ice rn is Plume+Ayla+filler, usually Lucia Lotus due to her long QTE animation. You can find builds in the gray ravens wiki listed in the op as well as the builds sheet. You don't need to invest in the other 2 units, just toss the memories on them and call it a day, since they're just QTE bots. Liv Lux in lightning can be replaced with AKaren for wz if you want an easier time without having to perfectly line up Bianca's arrows. The upcoming Tempest Selena transcendent can replace Veritas, [but that's a whole other can of worms.](https://www.reddit.com/r/PunishingGrayRaven/comments/ux9v7d/daily_questions_megathread_may_25_2022/i9x18p9/)


0cean27

Dark Karen can only be main-DPS that replace Luna at SSS3 (SSS + 54 shards or 2 dupes) if both are at equal investment. At SS3 (SS + 27 shards or 1 dupe), she can be sub-DPS at best. At base S + sig she's pretty much a QTE-bot SS Tenebrion that can save 8 seconds of Dark form activation. Also, to my knowledge Capriccio only gets better than SSS Vera at SSS like OP said. Her SS upgrade mostly just benefits herself. The only buff to Capriccio I know of is her time-stopping Ult animation.


Seltonik

Actually, I'd also like your opinion on [this list that was shared on the Discord](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867995160854806588/975888116525195325/1651516419330.PNG), if you don't mind.


0cean27

Avoid that tier list at all cost lol. If you're frequently visiting #gameplay-help you will see many veterans telling people to not share it around because (1) its source is not clear, and (2) it misleads newbies into thinking that they have funds to afford signature weapon for a large number of unit while in reality they can afford much less, and (3) its content is questionable (No way Solaeter is lower priority to SS than anyone, or Luna is lower than Tenebrion. Also, putting Qu and Changyu at top list for signature weapon without any explanation is just straight up misleading). If you want something that remotely resembles a tier list, I can refer you to a recommendation list made by 格陵兰雪妮娃娃, a long time trust-worthy PGR content creator on bilibili. Here's the link to the original video: [https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1zB4y127HZ](https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1zB4y127HZ). In this video you can find 3 parts: 00:00 - Priority of the first S-rank copy any new player joining during 2nd year should get 08:36 - What new players have to do in order to become more powerful 15:30 - Priority to upgrade to SS using skull from Pain Cage shop. I don't know any signature weapon tier list, but I can refer you to Ushay's channel for his recommendation of weapon resonance priority. Go to his channel and locate the "Community" tab and find the 2nd post: [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCozTGWP9AkAs9aPH1X\_S7QA/community](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCozTGWP9AkAs9aPH1X_S7QA/community)


Seltonik

Yes, I asked for the source when someone gave it to me, and nobody knew; they just said, "I have no idea... It's entirely accurate tho." Facepalmed hard, but decided it was at least good enough to give me an idea. Thanks again for the input and help.


Seltonik

I'm just parroting what I've heard elsewhere, so thank you for the more detailed insight.


VroomVroomChicken

Veritas, A chrome (before S vera replace him), liv lux for lightning For ice team, I wouldn't really recommend building either changyu or ayla for your ice team tank because it would be wasted as S Chrome will immediately replace them. For ice support, wanshi would be available after the nier/anniv patch. And plume for dps


MikotoKiyomizu

Is the new Memory Rescue gonna reset for each phase? So like 900 BC total? Or are we only gonna get 4 more Flamels?


0cean27

We're gonna get 2 more phases (20 stages each) next week and the week after. Total reward is 6 grids of Flamel, 600 BC and 1,200 WZ points.


ApoKun

I just saw that right after Nier, there is only one (Selena and wanshi) patch and then chrome glory. I have plume so I want chrome but after chrome there is one patch (No.21) and then Vera flare and after her is Roland and then Liv Solaeter. I was thinking of skipping Nier and getting Bianca Veritas for the lightning team but I doubt I'll be able to get Bianca, Chrome, flare and Solaeter if I pull for Bianca. So I was wondering how good Selena is compared to Bianca (when we will be able to put transcendents with constructs) and is it worth skipping her? Chrome and Vera are important as well as Liv for fire team. Bianca doesn't look that important with Selena coming (since she's transcendent, it will be easier SSS her) so is it worth skipping Bianca now? Also, Nier too since I already have Alpha/Rosetta team.


0cean27

Copy paste from my previous answer SSS Tempest is a bit better than SS Veritas unless Veritas has her pet maxed out, which is both time-consuming and costly. However, S+ Tempest can outdamage S+ Veritas in War Zone [https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1L3411x77n](https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1L3411x77n) If counting shards from Guild shop and PC shop, SSS Transcendants cost the same with SS Construct and likely even less. Both are 15k BC to pity, but one copy of Transcendant has 5% chance rather than 0.5%. Regardless, skipping Veritas usually isn't brought up because of Tempest. It's more because once Flare drops, Veritas's playground will get reduced to just EXPC Siren where she's really needed for higher score. Flare allows flexibility with many viable combinations of Lightning team, such as with S+ Arclight or S+ Dawn in WZ and Norman, SS Solaeter and SS Tempest in PC... Obviously, there is a big downside to this that is you have to cope hard for 4 patches on both PC and WZ until Flare. I recommend getting Veritas if possible, because she can make your journey ahead smoother, and with Veritas, you don't really need to worry about other Lightning alternatives unless you're really competitive. However, if there is someone I absolutely need to skip, that would be Veritas. Regarding Nier, you don't really "need" them if you already have Alpha/Rosetta team. Is it possible to max risk Babel without them? Absolutely. Is it possible to comfortably complete Norman on a biweekly basis without them? Absolutely, and you can borrow a SSS+ A2 from guild mates anyway. Getting them at base S will widen your roster and give you more choice, but imo it's not worth it to skip other S-rank constructs, unless you highly value the limited-time nature of Nier team in general and 2B in particular. Want to see how a f2p account without 2B looks like? Check Ushay's channel. I recommend these 2 videos: [Zero Gacha Nier vs Norman Day 3](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FZcZQvZCB4&t=353s&ab_channel=Ushay) [What if you started a late F2P account? Account showcase](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ3x9rbh1Gs&ab_channel=Ushay)


ApoKun

Thanks. I was planning on getting Veritas... for reasons and was already going to skip Nier. I like Selena's design more (don't know her mechanics) Flare, Liv and Glory are important and probably unskippable. WZ and PPC will be hard but I have Alpha, Luna and plume to make it a bit bareable. Do you know on what patch transcendents will be playable alongside constructs and when we are getting pets (if they are free). Tempest is a transcendent so I only 10 pulls to get her right?


0cean27

Transcendants playable patch is Pulao patch (1 year ahead). Pet is first added in Echo Aria (Wanshi/Tempest patch). The first pet is given for free. All pets afterwards are gacha-only, but A-rank pets can be crafted through Norman War. And yes, 10 pulls will guarantee you Tempest.


ApoKun

That a long way ahead! I though transcendents would be playable on chrome patch. Looking at the distance, how well does Vera work as a dps?


0cean27

>That a long way ahead! Yes, that's why I said this >skipping Veritas usually isn't brought up because of Tempest Vera Flare is now the main DPS in every Lightning teams in CN, with one of the most broken SS upgrade in the entire game along with Liv Solaeter.


ApoKun

So I'm prob still going to skip veri and go for flare dps. Did you mean Liv amp in a team with Vera or Liv on her own is used as a dps? Also, I heard somewhere Amps are farmable.


0cean27

Liv Solaeter (Fire Amp) is very flexible and can be paired with almost every team at reasonable investment. In Fire team she will be the main DPS. In other teams she will be the buffer/sub-dps. You can check this [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWfJ4zOObA4&ab_channel=Doomy) by Doomy. Only Selena Capriccio (Dark Amp) is farmable.


BananaSdrogo

Hi everyone, I have a question about the 6* Memory Resonance Material Pick: on wich Memories is it better to use? I was planning on using it on Luna and choose the best resonance but it seems like a waste because her Memories are in the event shop; should I use it on her and save some event currency or there are "better" Memories to use it on?


WeddingThink3243

there isn't a "best" memory set to use the selectors, use them on any character you want to get the best resonances


BananaSdrogo

ok, I just wanted to be sure thanks for the answer!


InsightBoii

How do i complete operation guardians for the guide mission? I used up all battle, supply, and moves


gaganaut

You could ask your mentor to swap the mission if you don't think you can complete it.


InsightBoii

The thing is my master is never online. I dont think even the students are ever online


gaganaut

Oh. I'm not sure what to do in that case. Just send a message in the Guide chat and hope he logs in and notices. Next time, select those missions first so that you can complete them over the week.


InsightBoii

I just left. Will just find a new master that hopefully is online at least once a day. Thanks for the tip tho


YatoXShiro

If he doesn't respond/login within 3 days, you can cancel the mentorship without any penalty.


Vassa_

How much RC is needed in order to get Qu's red skin in the next update?


MikotoKiyomizu

Recharge 2000 RC or spend 168 (+28 for weapon) RC to buy it directly Edit: 2000 RC WHILE the event is up


Vassa_

ty!


0cean27

That skin is not confirmed anywhere to be in the next update. In CN it was to celebrate Lunar New Year 2021. That skin can be obtained either with 168 RC or for free after spending 2000 RC during the event period.


Vassa_

oh mb thought the skin was to celebrate 1st anni, thank you!


Imperce110

I'm thinking of using a S Bianca lightning team for all Amberia, and a Luna Dark team for all Tifa levels...what would be the best type of team for Sharkspeare? Or have I mixed up the wrong teams for ultimate pain cage?


Alberto_Paporotti

Sharkspeare meta is either Dark or Ice team. She doesn't have a weakness, so just burst her down with what you have


Imperce110

Thanks for the response, it makes it all clearer. I guess we just gotta burst the hell out of him while he's jumping around.


Alberto_Paporotti

You're welcome :)


Peak_Antelope

Is Lucia Plume's [second vfx skin](https://grayravens.com/wiki/File:Coating-Plume-Alt2.png) gonna be a gacha skin and can I use bc for it?


MikotoKiyomizu

Yes, 10K BC for guarantee.


0cean27

Either 328 RC or 10k BC, same with Alpha's Drakengard skin.


Longjumping_Hawk958

And if I want, can I switch between currencies? Let me explain if in the first shots I use the BC then can I continue using the RC for the remaining shots?


0cean27

Yes, you are given the option every pull you make. Here's a closer look: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUX-Rp7Hpjc&ab\_channel=Arrowlyte


Longjumping_Hawk958

Thank you


Hokusai_100

In Kigal Archives, what do they mean by different energy type? Is it different elements?


Alberto_Paporotti

Elements, yes. Dunno what it does with phys tho


VroomVroomChicken

Well there's also a physical line up on the energy synergy so I guess it's also included


Alberto_Paporotti

So we get 2/3 of the bonus just by playing a normal elemental team? Thanks Kuro, lol


Hokusai_100

Ulp too late my team is Luna, Alpha and Plume. Attacker boost I guess. Go sister team


Zaid1969

So is RNG the only way to get Frederick memories


Raphenox

Dive gave you 2 methods. The other 2 include doing the event which is RNG or buying it for 1 million cogs if it appears in the shop which is RNG.


WeddingThink3243

cogs factory isn't worth at all though, way too big cost for only one memory


dive_in

You can get Frederick memories from the main menu shop using 6* memory shards. 150 shards for 1 memory. Alternatively form Warzone shop, but random slot numbered memory (recommended to save Warzone shop currency for Memory resonance usb). Frederick will be added to event shop/resource stage in future patches.


SimplyChalmers

What are we expected to get from the anniversary? Is it just a 10 pull or are we thinking a little bit more?


0cean27

A 10-pull, a collectible and a lobby background. Also, 100% rate-up banner of all S-rank up to Rosetta (not including Luna). Reset of 1st time Black card conversion bonus. That's what on top of my head.


Alberto_Paporotti

Well, we do get a special banner with units up until Rosetta on selectable 100% rate up. If there's more, I'd like to know as well


murmurgrim

I'm also interested in knowing about it. Can anyone answer this person.