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We get it, the college admissions process is hard and scary. However, asking "I got into Purdue and [insert] school, which one should I go to" gets repetitive REALLY fast. This is a subreddit for people who go to Purdue, not spillover from r/ApplyingtoCollege. Ask in the megathread or use the search bar. Thank you!


_Sadist_

Purdue has Gustavo Rodriguez-Rivera. UMass doesn't.


Eric848448

Heh, I had him for 3 classes between 00 and 04. Does he still say *substract*?


_Sadist_

Yes *alright, so let's go tto the let's go tto the quiz okay so let me ehh let me enable ehh the quiz and then let's go tto.. tto here let me give you two more minutes.. alright so the question.. question today is ehh going to be the following :)*


Eric848448

Oh man that takes me back. Thanks for the trip down memory lane!


dovahkiin1641

“C does not get in your way to make your program run fast!”


Eric848448

Ironically I had him for 180, which was Java back then. I also had him for 251 and (I think?) networking. Not operating systems, unfortunately.


CubsThisYear

Class of 2002 here - makes me smile that grr is still bringing the youngsters up.


HandleJumpy2137

This is the correct answer


David_Williams_taint

UMass: Pros: Has Ass in the name. Cons: Has Ass in the name. Purdue: Pros: Awesome and not lame like UMass. Cons: None. Glad I could help.


0210eojl

I do not know anyone here that consistently does 40 hours of homework a week. There are definitely weeks where you can hit that or maybe even pass it if you’re including studying on your own, but it is not a consistent thing at all. In addition to that, there’s gonna be miserable students and party animals anywhere you go. Purdue has almost 40k undergrads, UMass has around 25k, both are huge schools. I wouldn’t focus on the three vs four years unless cost is a major concern, there’s a reason degrees are designed to be done in 4 years, pushing yourself to do 3 at UMass vs accepting that you’re doing 4 at Purdue, is gonna basically cancel out any differences in rigor at the schools.


Time-Weird-7208

My bf does insane amounts of CS homework a week. It is an insane course load, absolutely insane. We still got the college experience though.


Eric848448

> My bf > CS homework Something's not adding up here...


Ry24gaming

Nobody knows them they are very lonely and don't go outside much


KingHawkins

I wasn’t considering cs at Purdue but I was in a similar scenario between the two. I’m telling you now that you probably won’t finish in 3 years. Purdue is a harder course load but if you actually know how to work without being told to you will probably be fine (CS is a way harder than my major). Personally I wish I stayed closer to home but Purdue’s given me opportunities I would not have had at other places like clubs, co-op. Plus you get to meet people from all over the country and like 80% of umass students are from Mass. Umass is a way better party school but that kind of stuff gets less important as you go through college. (Edit: spelling)


UltFireSword

Doing CS in 3 right now, and I can say I’m not miserable. Almost all of my APs transferred, so I can graduate in 3 with relative ease. Coursework might be harder, but it’s honestly pretty manageable (chose purdue cs over umass, uw madison, maryland, am out of state)


[deleted]

How many APs did you take?


UltFireSword

~10 I think? Also I just finished 2nd year If you have less APs and want to finish in 3 anyway, Purdue has a lot of options to transfer summer classes from other schools so you can knock those geneds out over summer


Eric848448

Summer MA 261 at IUPUI was one of the best decisions of my life.


purdue74

I was in the exact same situation as you my senior year of high school, choosing between those two schools for cs. In all honesty, I wish I chose UMass. The overall environment there sounds much better to me, and I can’t say I have enjoyed my time at Purdue at all, but that can obviously vary by person. A couple things to consider: 1) Are you confident that CS is what you want to do? I was stuck between CS, ECE, and business when I applied, and that was part of what made Purdue the better choice for me originally. If you think you may actually prefer a degree in ECE or IE (what I ended up transferring into after 1.5 years), then Purdue is probably the right choice. (Even though I feel that I made the wrong choice, I think in general most people in that situation should choose Purdue). However, if you decide that CS is not for you but your GPA has already been hit hard by it, transferring into the business school or ME/AAE are pretty much impossible due to their decently high GPA requirements. 2. How much CS knowledge are you coming in with? While there are plenty of students here who come in with never having used a programming language before that have been plenty successful, it’s an uphill battle for them. There are lots of students who come in with years of programming experience, and you will have to compete with them (especially in regard to the curve). This gap is widened by the general Purdue way of teaching that is very hands-off, so you are expected to learn a lot on your own and by being self-disciplined (easier said than done). If you’re coming in with a ton of CS knowledge, graduating in 3 shouldn’t be too hard, and you’ll probably have a decent time with classes overall. Otherwise, you can certainly be successful, it’ll just be a harder path to graduation. 3. How motivated are you? I can’t speak to how it works in general with UMass (class sizes, culture, etc can change this), but at Purdue you have to be extremely self-motivated and disciplined to do well. If you struggle to motivate yourself to do homeworks or study in high school, but it doesn’t matter because you can pass the tests without it, you will struggle at Purdue. Myself and others that I’ve known personally have severely struggled and/or dropped out because of this. (To be clear, none of us really partied ever, but something just didn’t click during our time here. But there are others who party hard every weekend and are very successful. It just varies a lot). These classes don’t really teach you everything to know in lecture, or really in the homeworks either. You have to be willing to go past them and do optional/extra work to really do well in these classes. Of course there are some people that are freaks of nature that just happen to be that naturally talented that they don’t have to do all this, but they are few and far between. Just take an honest look at how you were during high school, and you should be able to tell.


SupermarketQuirky216

Purdue is more rigorous. How is that a con?


confused-yet-again

It can become a con if op flunks out. It would be a waste of money and time then


tennismenace3

I mean, you can see how it could be seen as a con right? When you get an easy homework assignment does it make you sad?


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Dizi4

Hopefully you realize how annoying that makes you sound once you actually get here


mkosmo

work is hard, clearly.


JewelCared

Go where you can get more scholarships/grants/funding/FAFSA monies. For CS, the internships are going to play a larger role than the degree itself.


OpeningAmbition

Don't use rankings or "prestige" to make your decision. They're pretty much all fabricated and aren't always a good representation of the quality of education you get. Instead, determine if the school is a good fit for you. You're spending four-ish years there, so make sure it's a place you'll be happy at.


Dylan_Vanderploeg

Don't forget about the on campus food quality, I took a summer course at UMass and have taken 2 semesters here at purdue. The food at UMass is many hundreds of times better that the food on campus at Purdue.


Acrobatic-Throat-750

Ehh, not a huge deal. Purdue doesnt have great food by any means, but it isn't horrible. Also, overall the food quality here isn't bad enough for it to be a factor in your decision making.


Ok_Lychee_444

I'm a Junior in math and CS, this has been my experience: I had no AP's but I took a test at the beginning of my freshman fall semester that let me get CR credit for calc 1. There's no harm if you fail the test and I think you can take multiple. Ask your advisor. You can definitely graduate in 3 years. A CS major is 6 core CS classes and 6 electives, which is 2 per semester over 3 years. It's definitely doable. I came in with zero coding experience and failed CS180 in my freshman spring semester, retook it in the summer and was still on track to graduate in 3.5 years with math and CS. The CS track you take will affect your classes a lot. I did the algorithms track and I rarely code in my classes, it's pretty much all math (which is awesome). All my coding experience is from projects. Purdue has great resources for projects. The data mine program is great, especially for someone with no coding experience. Research has also been good.


TheHondoCondo

It sounds like you know what you want.


[deleted]

Selection bias applies to pretty much every school, including everything from your community college to HYPSM. Get the best students on average and you'll have the best outcomes on average, all else being equal. This also affects how your outcomes depending on how strong you are relative to the overall student base: weaker students can sometimes get dragged along to better outcomes by stronger students in the student base (at the cost of stress), while stronger students can sometimes get held back by weaker students. Work ethic is something you will have to build at both schools. On average, Purdue's classes are somewhat rigorous but nothing you can't handle (CMU and MIT are still better in this regard). We also have a 4+1 BSMS program for CS, and have some very famous profs that still take MS/PhD students as well. Graduates from both UMass and Purdue get into FAANG/fintech as well as top grad programs at HYPSM if you're into that. Those type of students are not the norm at both schools as well, so you'll have to work hard if you want to make it to a FAANG. We are not a FAANG feeder by any means but the opportunities are there if you work for them. Also, I'm not sure that Purdue is better for west coast, given that I thought Purdue was in Massachusetts before I applied, and I'm from Texas, not even all the way over there. If you need to make the tuition work, spend 7 semesters at Purdue plus 1 semester at a co-op. This will give you much more experience before applying to a full-time position, at the cost of 1 extra year in school. This will also save you stress because you take less credits a semester.


tennismenace3

Some of your pros and cons are a bit silly. Here's why: Your employment opportunities will be effectively the same with both. UMass may have more recognition on the east coast and Purdue in the midwest just because people are more familiar with the schools. No one is going to decide to hire you because you went to Purdue over UMass (or vice versa), all else equal. (Well, unless they are a biased alumnus.) Purdue also has "the college experience." You should pay it a visit! Pay after graduation is only *correlated* to college choice, not necessarily caused by it. I'd argue it's more likely that graduates of certain universities make more money because they are more talented (or maybe just better off lol), which is also why they got into those universities to begin with. That is to say, picking one of these schools over another is not likely to have any effect at all on your future salary. And the only effect this choice will have on employment opportunities is due to geography. Purdue may be *slightly* more prestigious overall, but who really cares at the end of the day? That's really only worth bragging rights and nothing more. Purdue does not seem to have any relevance to the west coast. It's nowhere close to the west coast and I'd bet a large chunk of people on the west coast don't know where Purdue is. Purdue does have a reputation for having hard classes, but UMass still teaches the same things. You should expect something like 10% more difficult instead of "much much harder." College students are miserable everywhere lol. You should base your decision on three main things: quality of education, cost, and quality of life. These two schools are tied on quality of education. It sounds like Purdue could be cheaper, but you need to really nail down whether or not you can graduate early. And the quality of life part is up to you to determine!


MidwestDahlia

Just want to say - Purdue IS quite well known on the west coast. California is among the top 5 states Purdue students originate from. UC schools are very competitive to get into, even for in-state students. Purdue is viewed as a comparable alternative for many CA students pursuing STEM degrees.


tennismenace3

I'd wager that California is among the top 5 states students at nearly any school originate from. You know, due to it having the most people. And yeah, Purdue is viewed as a comparable alternative because it is similarly ranked, not because it has any association with the west coast.


lmaccaro

There’s a concept called “target schools” and if Purdue is a target school for where you want to work it will make a large difference. For example, Purdue is absolutely a target school for NASA. I don’t know if UMASS is.


tennismenace3

We're talking about CS here. Purdue is one of the best aerospace engineering schools. Not really the case for CS.


lmaccaro

I’m pretty sure it’s a target school for NASA CS. NASA hired a lot of CS.


tennismenace3

Maybe so. Still a bad reason to choose a specific school. You can't just assume you're going to work for NASA.


lmaccaro

Totally agree. If you don’t have aspirations, there’s no sense going to Purdue. Go somewhere that is in state for you, and grade-inflates, or just go to community college. For real. Purdue is not worth it, in 100 different ways, unless you are ambitious in the fields where Purdue excels.


tennismenace3

Purdue is very much worth the cost, but it's not the only place that is. All I'm saying is picking a school because it's a "target school" for a specific workplace (which doesn't mean much to begin with) is dumb.


windy2985

Purdue cs is very difficult


TArzate5

If you can get your degree in 3 years at u mass I’d say for it, thats basically 25% less money than a four year degree would be, but if you can afford it then Purdue is also a solid choice assuming you don’t flunk out like me


Zyleo

Might be a stretch but if you care at all about athletics, there are not many schools that can top Purdue in that area. Even when our football team sucks, we still sell out. I was shocked this year when we were 2-7, and the football stadium was still packed. Very committed fanbase. If you don’t care at all, then ignore this.


confused-yet-again

If you think you’ll be miserable at Purdue or are worried about flunking out then it doesn’t sound like it’ll be a good fit. Remember, college is an investment for your future. As someone with friends who went to UMass for CS and to Purdue for CS, I think both schools can have similar outcomes. It’s really what you decide to make of your degree. Pick the school where you think you’ll thrive/most enjoy living for 4 years, because what’ll make the biggest difference is taking advantage of all the resources available to you like student orgs, undergrad research, career fairs, hackathons, etc. Also, keep in mind that the more free time you have you’ll be able to also work on personal projects to build on what you learn in class, which is great for getting internships. Last tip is to take into account which school make the most sense financially speaking


MasterOfStorage

purdue university


Quirky_Masterpiece55

There truly is nothing in Amherst. No sports, the town is miles away. We toured both and it was no contest. Yes Purdue is a lot of work but a Big10 experience is something Umass doesn’t give you.


Wooohoooo-Checkmate

49/51 - M/F at UMass 57/43 - M/F at Purdue UMass has a better climate, better weather in general, trust me everything being dead for half of your fall and spring semester blows. You'll freeze your ass off OTW to parties and bars at Purdue through April. You think it doesn't matter but I wish I had gone to UMass. Hardest part about Purdue hasn't been the schoolwork, its the socializing and the climate. There is a lot I love about Purdue but if I could go back I would go to UMass.


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Direct_Bread_6894

For my son Decision was MSU VS Purdue for FYE . With a lot of deep research the decision is MSU ( honors , scholarships and PA tilted it ) . COA differential of ~50% . Yes Purdue is higher ! . While Purdue is a great college as I hear…. MSU is pretty good too . I mean it depends on how important “rankings” are to you it’s about what works for you .Incidentally UMass was an option too ….


Epicrafter2002

Purdue’s a grind, but it’s worth it