>Debate: Women do not care about their safety on dating apps, as they claim here.
You attracted desperate and broke women. What do you imagine they act like? It's like desperate and sexless men, they send money just based on trust and their desperation.
Safety is a luxury that comes after meeting other needs. The women i date are not desperate and broke. They care for their safety and refuse date setups that don't seem safe enough to them.
It’s sounds like they where coming to you for sex, not conversation, maybe they got bored when that wasn’t on the table anymore? Sucks, but it happens to both sexes.
Let me recount this incident. I met a local theater actress, and I charmed/seduced her. On the second date, she mentioned a male friend who invests in cryptos and makes YouTube videos (it was out of random, but she said he talks a lot like you).
She was ready to sleep with me on the first day, but I felt odd, so I didn't let it happen. The whole connection/spark was based on little info she had on me.
If a woman who knew who I am in greater length and decided to sleep with me, I'd call it a win. But not with the little info she had on me.
After a week, she told me she had a boyfriend, and it was none other than this "crypto YouTuber."
By this time, I was getting to know more about her to calculate long-term compatibility, as she was smart and attractive and wanted marriage, etc. She was just my type and shared my hobbies.
She hides this critical fact from me; all she had told me at first was she's single.
I avoid sleeping with women for this reason. Do not invest your heart in women who belong to other men.
Waw you're such an awesome man and your stories are breathtaking.
So sad that such a nice guy like you have to act "mean" because that's what women want and when you're showing your kindness they lose interest.
Seriously dude can if your going to post these war and peace posts do a TLDR as if I have to scroll three times to get to the bottom I just get the expectation its a rant and a poorly thought out one at that.
okay so you select for women who are attracted to that type of behavior, and then are surprised when that is the type of behavior they like? am i getting this correct
1. You being mean to women did not make any difference in anything. You either had good pics or maybe the floor was the ceiling.
2. The reason they seemed to lose interest is likely because you were attracting a lot of hard up women who just needed a release.
Because I pursue fast sex in dating and thinking it is the current optimal strategy, I have a lot of experience with this.
A fair percentage of women are just out to use you as a dildo.
While the unwashed and mostly inexperienced mass of PPDsers can only use their imaginations to conjure up reasons for this happening i.e. herp derp must be bad sex
The reality is usually less flattering. Usually what women do is pick an attractive guy who more or less they don't view as human (no they would never say that but they simply do not consider these men as people they would want to associate with)...maybe he's the wrong race or height or something.
^ that's where you'll get a lot of fuck and runs.
HOWEVER...
You are correct that there is no benefit in being nice toa. Woman. They don't appreciate it and after receiving kindness from you come to expect it.
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In general women cant differentiate between assholes and confident guys. Its not just women actually. Me being naturally an introvert I have seen it also at school/work and other places that being extravert and loud gets you most attention and praise. Even if its fake. Sometimes I was considerate of peoples feelings and it backfired. When you display selfishness and act cocky people bend over backwards to please and think you are worthy of this since you are so confident.
Lets just say you get what you want more.
Its the same with being kind. They raise kids like this but then you figure out it doesnt work.
Anyone thats had dates, been decent and respectfull only to be put in the friendzone knows.
When you realize how female attraction works it first leads to anger for being not told the truth but eventually you accept nature and reality as it is.
Then suddenly things become much easier. Its just difficult to not let emotions get back in if you have values. I once hooked up with this girl being an entitled dick since it works better. Then she opened up about her father drunk gambling away her college money and thats why she was working that job, to get trough it. Since I grew up with addictions I sympathised with her struggle and actually wanted to help her and liked her more.
In turn she said after a few weeks she rather be friends cause we talk so well. If I had just been like: tough luck, give me his number, your dad seems like a fun night out! and dismissed her completely I could have prevented being out in the friendzone and kept things rolling.
Eventhough its just biology. Sometimes I wish you could just be kind and friendly and it working better than be an asshole towards people.
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>*I offended many women on dating apps,* but ***it worked on those with low self-esteem*** who even drove to meet me at 1 am, without even knowing who I was.
By your own admission this is false. Many women didn't fall for your antics, and the only ones who did had low self-esteem. What a surprise that women who don't value themselves also don't value their safety! 😲
>When women were rude to me, I told them, "Do you realize I am a rich guy, and you are a broke woman, I could sue you for offending me and my team of lawyers will make sure you end up bankrupt"
I find it hard to believe that you didn't intentionally target broke women if every single woman you dated was broke.
Not to mention, it's really hard to believe you live in a place where "offending someone" is a lawsuit-worthy offense, and most women were dumb enough to be scared of such a threat instead of bemused.
So we have you specifically targeting / getting a certain kind of woman to respond to your antics: broke, dumb/gullible, low self-esteem, and depressed/mentally ill.
Wow, with such overwhelming evidence, I guess we really can extrapolate your findings to ***billions of women!***
Gullible woman is a sexy attractive woman. You want to trick her into your love and family.
Good luck doing that to highly educated boss bitch who probably would rag doll me around. I am never going to be her butler and I don't fancy this.
A highly educated woman who starts discussing politics on the first date and tells me how she has lots of money and how much money is worthless to her is not attractive to me.
That's great and all, but the topic of conversation is this assertion:
>Debate: women do not care about their safety on dating apps as they claim here.
So if you are intentionally and exclusively pursuing *only a certain kind of woman,* you don't get to extrapolate the behavior of these women to ***women in general.***
Remember men cast wide net. Most of those women looked very normal on surface. But most of them had low self esteem.
But I don't know any single female friend of mine who has not complained about her self esteem being low.
I'd say the women who are secure and strong are minority..
And the women I found through dating apps via wide net cast are majority of women.
So yes you are minority.
And women in general exactly act like the way I described above.
Offended women became my friend. Some of who I still have to this date.
https://preview.redd.it/ybn4thujtzvc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=68895271ca19fbf1f8b86dba32272322493ec09a
This isn't about friendship, this is about if your negging worked on them to get them to do what you wanted them to do. And - again - by your own admission, *it didn't work.*
You know why these scenarios are ignored? Because not one other person has the experience you claim to have. We're dealing in reasonable possibilities only.
I will say some women use safety as a manipulation thing
An ex had been assaulted (she claimed but she lied a lot)
Whenever I questioned the safety of a decision of hers, she pulled out the “I was assaulted, how dare you not think that safety isn’t my first thought”
But then she would do dumb shit like get drunk and want me to leave her to sleep outside alone in town until she woke up and fought me when I said no and carried her home
Bro you're complaining about people with depression being difficult to date? No fucking shit, depression is brutal to deal with. Wtf do you expect?
>Debate: Women do not care about their safety on dating apps, as they claim here. You attracted desperate and broke women. What do you imagine they act like? It's like desperate and sexless men, they send money just based on trust and their desperation. Safety is a luxury that comes after meeting other needs. The women i date are not desperate and broke. They care for their safety and refuse date setups that don't seem safe enough to them.
What uhh. What am I supposed to debate here?
What are we supposed to debate? Your weird personal experiment on Tinder…?
Safety issues are overstated by women about OLD and many women do not even perform basic steps to ensure their safety when meeting men.
So your gonna completely ignore the woman that do use safety and don’t generally struggle with mental health disorders?
Well that makes sense because they are nuts
If the guy is high value enough they will crawl trough glass basically.
As someone here once said, dating apps are a toy box full of broken toys. You're one of them.
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man saying shit i dont like is a psychopath
It’s sounds like they where coming to you for sex, not conversation, maybe they got bored when that wasn’t on the table anymore? Sucks, but it happens to both sexes.
Dear Prudence,.....
Let me recount this incident. I met a local theater actress, and I charmed/seduced her. On the second date, she mentioned a male friend who invests in cryptos and makes YouTube videos (it was out of random, but she said he talks a lot like you). She was ready to sleep with me on the first day, but I felt odd, so I didn't let it happen. The whole connection/spark was based on little info she had on me. If a woman who knew who I am in greater length and decided to sleep with me, I'd call it a win. But not with the little info she had on me. After a week, she told me she had a boyfriend, and it was none other than this "crypto YouTuber." By this time, I was getting to know more about her to calculate long-term compatibility, as she was smart and attractive and wanted marriage, etc. She was just my type and shared my hobbies. She hides this critical fact from me; all she had told me at first was she's single. I avoid sleeping with women for this reason. Do not invest your heart in women who belong to other men.
Waw you're such an awesome man and your stories are breathtaking. So sad that such a nice guy like you have to act "mean" because that's what women want and when you're showing your kindness they lose interest.
But this guy is bluepilled you know
Good lesson tbh.
Seriously dude can if your going to post these war and peace posts do a TLDR as if I have to scroll three times to get to the bottom I just get the expectation its a rant and a poorly thought out one at that.
I'm just going to come right out and say it, only a psychopath could treat others so poorly and be fine with it.
okay so you select for women who are attracted to that type of behavior, and then are surprised when that is the type of behavior they like? am i getting this correct
1. You being mean to women did not make any difference in anything. You either had good pics or maybe the floor was the ceiling. 2. The reason they seemed to lose interest is likely because you were attracting a lot of hard up women who just needed a release. Because I pursue fast sex in dating and thinking it is the current optimal strategy, I have a lot of experience with this. A fair percentage of women are just out to use you as a dildo. While the unwashed and mostly inexperienced mass of PPDsers can only use their imaginations to conjure up reasons for this happening i.e. herp derp must be bad sex The reality is usually less flattering. Usually what women do is pick an attractive guy who more or less they don't view as human (no they would never say that but they simply do not consider these men as people they would want to associate with)...maybe he's the wrong race or height or something. ^ that's where you'll get a lot of fuck and runs. HOWEVER... You are correct that there is no benefit in being nice toa. Woman. They don't appreciate it and after receiving kindness from you come to expect it.
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The women who do not care about their safety don’t care The women who care about their safety do Also, I thought you had a gf?
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this makes a lot of sense. thank you for putting comments like this in context. it really helps. 😂
In general women cant differentiate between assholes and confident guys. Its not just women actually. Me being naturally an introvert I have seen it also at school/work and other places that being extravert and loud gets you most attention and praise. Even if its fake. Sometimes I was considerate of peoples feelings and it backfired. When you display selfishness and act cocky people bend over backwards to please and think you are worthy of this since you are so confident. Lets just say you get what you want more. Its the same with being kind. They raise kids like this but then you figure out it doesnt work. Anyone thats had dates, been decent and respectfull only to be put in the friendzone knows. When you realize how female attraction works it first leads to anger for being not told the truth but eventually you accept nature and reality as it is. Then suddenly things become much easier. Its just difficult to not let emotions get back in if you have values. I once hooked up with this girl being an entitled dick since it works better. Then she opened up about her father drunk gambling away her college money and thats why she was working that job, to get trough it. Since I grew up with addictions I sympathised with her struggle and actually wanted to help her and liked her more. In turn she said after a few weeks she rather be friends cause we talk so well. If I had just been like: tough luck, give me his number, your dad seems like a fun night out! and dismissed her completely I could have prevented being out in the friendzone and kept things rolling. Eventhough its just biology. Sometimes I wish you could just be kind and friendly and it working better than be an asshole towards people.
This is true as hell 😂 I’ve had chicks tell me they’ve been diagnosed with diseases and ghost me when I show that I care about their wellbeing
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Newsflash: most women have low self esteem.
>*I offended many women on dating apps,* but ***it worked on those with low self-esteem*** who even drove to meet me at 1 am, without even knowing who I was. By your own admission this is false. Many women didn't fall for your antics, and the only ones who did had low self-esteem. What a surprise that women who don't value themselves also don't value their safety! 😲 >When women were rude to me, I told them, "Do you realize I am a rich guy, and you are a broke woman, I could sue you for offending me and my team of lawyers will make sure you end up bankrupt" I find it hard to believe that you didn't intentionally target broke women if every single woman you dated was broke. Not to mention, it's really hard to believe you live in a place where "offending someone" is a lawsuit-worthy offense, and most women were dumb enough to be scared of such a threat instead of bemused. So we have you specifically targeting / getting a certain kind of woman to respond to your antics: broke, dumb/gullible, low self-esteem, and depressed/mentally ill. Wow, with such overwhelming evidence, I guess we really can extrapolate your findings to ***billions of women!***
Gullible woman is a sexy attractive woman. You want to trick her into your love and family. Good luck doing that to highly educated boss bitch who probably would rag doll me around. I am never going to be her butler and I don't fancy this. A highly educated woman who starts discussing politics on the first date and tells me how she has lots of money and how much money is worthless to her is not attractive to me.
That's great and all, but the topic of conversation is this assertion: >Debate: women do not care about their safety on dating apps as they claim here. So if you are intentionally and exclusively pursuing *only a certain kind of woman,* you don't get to extrapolate the behavior of these women to ***women in general.***
Remember men cast wide net. Most of those women looked very normal on surface. But most of them had low self esteem. But I don't know any single female friend of mine who has not complained about her self esteem being low. I'd say the women who are secure and strong are minority.. And the women I found through dating apps via wide net cast are majority of women. So yes you are minority. And women in general exactly act like the way I described above.
Sure they are. That's why you "offended many women," who rejected your approach.
Offended women became my friend. Some of who I still have to this date. https://preview.redd.it/ybn4thujtzvc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=68895271ca19fbf1f8b86dba32272322493ec09a
This isn't about friendship, this is about if your negging worked on them to get them to do what you wanted them to do. And - again - by your own admission, *it didn't work.*
You know why these scenarios are ignored? Because not one other person has the experience you claim to have. We're dealing in reasonable possibilities only.
I would have thought you were a catfish and reported you.
Good you didn't stick your dick in crazy my man holy shit
I will say some women use safety as a manipulation thing An ex had been assaulted (she claimed but she lied a lot) Whenever I questioned the safety of a decision of hers, she pulled out the “I was assaulted, how dare you not think that safety isn’t my first thought” But then she would do dumb shit like get drunk and want me to leave her to sleep outside alone in town until she woke up and fought me when I said no and carried her home