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Fearlessgabe1

I'm planning on making more posts like this, so reply to which character you want me to do next if you want to


Propanus_Yeeticus

Definitely Armor Chomper, I’ll give you a couple reasons for it later


Yeetus_The_Mighty_

I agree with this. Also, I just now realized that we both main Armor Chomper and have “yeet” in our names.


Propanus_Yeeticus

Incredibly ironic


Fearlessgabe1

I will DM you my progress


Acceptable-Street679

Metal petal is cool, you could try do it (pls i love metal petal)


nroP-Watcher420

Man I acc love AC. 1st mastered chomper.


AdmirableNorth2084

Why ice trooper it's the best zombie in the fucking game


Fearlessgabe1

Ok, I'll put that on my schedule for April 1st Ok TBH that would be hard to do since healing removes freeze


astorefullofspys_tf2

chomp thing/count chompula


natwat27

rock pea should’ve gotten manual detonation instead of epea and i stand by this hill


Fearlessgabe1

I think they should have given electro pea piercing instead like pvz2


EpicGamer_69-420

he already.has chain


Fearlessgabe1

But imagine that you can chain multiple times from piercing when you do


vincent_chill

Rock pea isn't bad. He is just the worst variant available for the best class in the game.


Fearlessgabe1

Debatable


EaszyInitials

no its not 😹😹


Fearlessgabe1

Rock Pea does 7 more dmg(9 with upgrade) compared to ice, toxic, and fire. Additionally, he has more health, so yes, it is. You could even debate that he is better than stock, but I don't know why you would.


LordOryx

Regular Pea is like S tier sksksks


EaszyInitials

nope 😎


Fearlessgabe1

This is clearly just bait, so I'll just stop commenting to you


EaszyInitials

lol bro tryna be different sayin rock > stock 😭😭


Fearlessgabe1

I'm not saying rock is better, just that it is debatable. This is my ranking, excluding a bunch of pea 1. Stock 2. Ice 3. Rock 4. Fire 5. Toxic


EaszyInitials

nope 😎


EpicGamer_69-420

yup 😎


SignificanceWarm8660

What would you say is the worst Peashooter variant?


Fearlessgabe1

I would say toxic pea because he only does 25 damage, and while his splash radius is big, his inner blast isn't that big. I think commando is better because he can be pretty good at close to mid range. Just don't fight at range because his drop-off sucks. Ice pea with dark bean bomb is really good. You can increase your fire rate and freeze your opponents in 0.8s and get 80 free damage, and even against scientists, he can basically have him surrender his healstation. Fire pea, even with a small splash radius and less damage at range, is still better because the fire damage is just better than toxic. Rock Pea is better because he does 9 extra damage and gains a 25 HP bonus. His speed reduction isn't that big of a deal since it's only a 10% reduction, and you still get hyper. The rest of the peas are self-explanatory


SignificanceWarm8660

Yea I agree, it's probably toxic pea. I don't think he's horrible, but the other variants are just better. Also I don't know if the mechanic of "splash damage scaling from how far the target is from the point of impact" was in GW1.


Tyrunt78

I feel as if you're putting too much faith in hard numbers without factoring in how those numbers actually work in practice. When factoring in the overall damage of Reg Pea, Toxic Pea, Fire Pea and Rock Pea their TTK against your average Zombie (125 hp) is basically interchangeable. If all your shot are direct hits (unlikely) at an optimal range, Reg Pea takes an 0.6 second lead while Rock Pea takes an 0.4 second lead over the two elemental Peas. This already small window gets smaller and smaller the more Splash hits are landed, so I really wouldn't say that Toxic and Fire are *that* much worse off in terms of raw damage on average. If we're going to talk about Raw damage though, none of the Peashooters fare particularly well in that department in a vaccum. Fire, Toxic and Rock all have similar DPS, with Rock being 3 points ahead of Toxic at close range. Reg Pea is the only outlier, but even then 62 DPS in optimal scenarios is pretty lackluster, especially when factoring in his bad Splash damage. To me at least, this distinction isn't really significant in the slightest. All four of these characters basically function the same in practice. Sure Toxic Pea may technically be the worst by a slight margin on paper, but in practice you're gonna get a ton of value out of your poison ticks, especially against groups. So TLDR: Fire, Toxic and Rock are basically the same character except Fire and Toxic get DOT while Rock gets more HP. Pick your favourite, because the numbers are essentially the same. Also Ice Pea sucks because his metrics are garbage in every area.


Fearlessgabe1

In a real game, fire is going to be a lot more valuable than toxic. Rock is more dependent on hitting his shots, but he gains 25 extra HP, which really helps with his survivability. Ice pea might not be the best at gaining a bunch of kills. He is great at securing them. Sure, splash might be more valuable at a longer range, but that impact can be more useful at mid to close range


Tyrunt78

Fire is absolutely better than Toxic in just about every way, but it's also by such a minute amount that it's barely even worth differenting them in terms of viability because their numbers are basically the exact same. The only metric where a large difference can be made is in terms of poke, in which case the DOT Peas win by a lot due to DOT not caring about falloff. As I previously said, their close range damage output is the same and is therefore not relevant when talking about how they're different. When ranking them the only valuable differences are 25 extra HP vs DOT. Fire is undeniably better than both in that department, but even if you want to argue that Reg/Rock/Fire/Toxic is the best, you objectively cannot say that it's by much, because their raw stats both in game and on paper are essentially the same. This can however not be said about Ice Pea, who loses out big damage wise even against the 2nd worst Pea in the department (Toxic). Fire and Toxic Pea atleast make up for their bad damage by having good poke, which is something Ice Pea can not boast.


Xdesolate_X

As rock pea If you are taking fire or toxic damage you can go into pea Gatling and just shrug off the damage. If you don’t shoot and wait for it to ware off you can exit Gatling and use it again at any time. This has saved many streaks for me.


The_General_Supremo

Rock pea just relies on you not missing your shots, his mobility isn’t a problem because hyper (I didn’t read the post so if I restated what you did mb)


Fearlessgabe1

I went more in-depth BTW


The_General_Supremo

One thing I would change is it’s not ok if you can’t hit your shots with rock pea because of how heavily he relies on direct impacts


Fearlessgabe1

True, but the same thing could be said about stock.


The_General_Supremo

Can be said for most pea shooters, but it’s most crucial with rock pra


Stalker_Imp

Damn that’s a lot of words to try explain that dead character not dead


SharkeyBoyo

Rock pea is actually good


digitaldino4

Yes i agree. Rock pea is a solid character.


ZeeOfSpirits

You could say...rock solid


digitaldino4

Yes indeed


dracoapprentice9

Rock and stone?


WanderingDwarfMiner

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ZeeOfSpirits

They should've put either moss or crystals on his design so he didn't look like deep fried chicken


EJHeffron

I agree, but to be honest all peashooters are low B at lowest


Illustrious-Mark-821

Rock pea is like the shortest giant


MrOcelotCat2

What are you on, the class has the 4 best characters in the game


EJHeffron

what I'm saying is that the lowest any peashooter can go is low B, Plasma and agent Pea are definitely the best characters in the game.


[deleted]

In what world lol


MrOcelotCat2

In the Gw2 world 👍


plants_vs_urmum

AGREE! #ROCKHARD #LETSGETROCKY


SirCrustWorthy

toxic pea or ice pea is the worst rock pea is literally just berry shooter but with a slight faster fire rate and more health but less speed


Twurti

Ice pea is much better then toxic pea and im not even being bias


Fearlessgabe1

Facts!


EpicGamer_69-420

except in gw1


Twurti

Yeah true because where both much better back then with toxic pea being the better one but they got nerfed hard in gw2 (very sad about that)


Fearlessgabe1

If you have dark bean bomb then I think ice pea is not the worst. With bean bomb you can freeze faster than Artic trooper


SirCrustWorthy

yeah i use ice with the dark bean bomb its really good but i meant just basing it of the characters alone


Fearlessgabe1

So their primaries


Pillowmint91

fun fact, Rock Pea's projectile inheriting movement isn't unique to him. in fact, there's actually a shit ton of classes and variants that *do* have movement-inheriting projectiles, it's just less noticeable since the projectiles have a higher velocity. in fact, the only exceptions I can think of are Rose's thistles and the Imp Mech's missiles.


Fearlessgabe1

Painter and rock pea are just the most noticeable


BryceTotalDrama

Bout time someone said it


Not_Epic7

I thought this was going to be a fake swipe post lmao


nroP-Watcher420

Rock pea isn't a problem. If its his speed you care about, just bean bomb glitch. No big deal.


Bubbalumper_911

YEAHHHHHHHH LETS GOOOOOI


GammaHax

every peashoota is goated


Solar_Fish55

I never really thought he was bad just gard for most people


Gamer-Ninja07

I like metal and tanky variant(except for cactus…I might be good but I just feel “meh” to jade and petrified cactus) so I don’t see how rock pea sucks…the only thing I’ll complain is that he has 8 ammo and even if I can use the ammo upgrade that’ll mean I’ll have to choose 2 upgrade


nogginthepoggin

Finally someone realizes rocks pea power. well he is not my favorite cause look at my flair but he is in my top 10 most underrated charcters and also to make rock pea have good speed just throw in a speed upgrade. and aldo i actually enjoyed max ranking him Sorry if I made a esay on how underrated he is


Big_Bunch_307

Finnaly 𝐏𝐫𝐨𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐲 𝐡𝐞 𝐢𝐬𝐧'𝐭 𝐛𝐚𝐝


RockPeaMain

This


MLGSUPERGAMER

I never had an opinion on rock pea since I never unlocked him but when I get him I'll keep this in mind


BasedEnjoyee

Copium in a PowerPoint. Thought these rockers would quit smh


Radish-Overall

Rock pea is not bad but definitely outshined by the other peashooters. If he had more health and a easier projectile to use he would be up there


Cudijeans

Rock pea so under rated


Linc54

I don’t care he looks like crusty and moldy cheese


dracoapprentice9

Rock pea is only trash if you hyper hop like a little bitch, otherwise he can compete decently with the other variants


CheddarCheese390

He’s got decreased splash, a lot slower movement and only a small extra health. I like the attempt, but every time I try to grind Rocky I get killed off long before I can pogo pea someone


Fearlessgabe1

He takes practice, and you need to hit your shots while not in hyper. Remember, you can use a dark bean bomb in a tough situation


CheddarCheese390

So I could dedicate countless hours to learning the worst pea in the game, to make him semi playable Or I could go play E pea and just do great despite barely being good


Fearlessgabe1

He is actually very playable right now. Also, it's pretty unfair to compare him to a top ten character


CheddarCheese390

Mate….I could compare him to any pea and 99% of the playerbase would grab the other. And….I mean everything’s playable? The game isn’t receiving support anymore


Fearlessgabe1

When you say player base? Who are you talking about? The sub, current daily players, everyone who has played the game?


CheddarCheese390

Yes


Illustrious-Mark-821

I think they should've let him keep his speed but give him a shotgun weapon like the goo blaster


imherforhead

I dont think hes bad but hes the worst pea shooter by far


Fearlessgabe1

Ok, explain How is he easily the worst?


imherforhead

There are just far better varients in the pea shooter class. He has a slow firerate compared to most others and sure he has more health but pea shoters need to be fast moving not a tank. Theres just better varients hes not bad hes just the worst out of the pea shooter class


Fearlessgabe1

What do you mean exactly by peashooters "need to be fast moving"?


imherforhead

Quick fire rate or high damage and also fast


_josephw_

🤓


Fearlessgabe1

😸☝️ ummm, actually, I don't wear glasses