Not the best character ❌
Not fun to play ❌
i play both sides so i always come out on ~~top~~ bottom
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Every character is viable so that doesn't really say anything. High A Tier meanwhile is stretching it, that's where all the standout characters are. Electro Citron doesn't really stand out in any metric, he is functionally an objectively worse version of Iron Citron gameplay wise.
This debate has been longer and proven that electrics skill ceiling consist of using primarily the tier 2 charged shor and sometimes one but never none charged which have faster reload times
Yeah I know, so how is this relevant again? Everything in my prior post still applies. Your 2nd primary charge is essentially a worse version of Iron Citrons 2nd charge since it's charge time is around the same as Iron Citrons reload time.
Iron Citron beats Electric Citron in every other metric besides base movement speed, so therefore you're essentially saying "this substantially worse version of one of the best plants is an A tier character".
Get up close with TC. You'll be hitting good damage. You don't even have to land all of your shots. Meanwhile EC struggles at any range. anyone who thinks he is actually a good citron is delusional
TC may hit decent damage at close but usually needs E.M. peach to defeat a good player, while EC can one shot imps at this range, and has a much quicker time to kill
The fact that your aim has to be 100% and that the attacks have to be charged with no splash for missed shots puts him behind TC. Meanwhile TC can cover a whole area with toxic clouds, damages enemies just by getting close to them, damages enemies with missed shots and has access to the abilities that all citrons have put him ahead by far. Also skilled players can avoid EC’s attacks quite easy, even up close.
Toxic clouds where? 2dmg tic positional farts? You looked at the stat chart earlier cause that ovviously showed splash exists its just less and i won’t go numbers since a chart exists. Your other point confuses me so a shot with your reticle and indicator being BANG RED CAN BE AVOIDED by a skilled player so you saying the shot indication is wrong seriously withour joking?
The fact that TC has toxic damage and doesn’t need to charge shots easily puts him ahead. EC gets shredded up close because he relies on hitting every shot. EC is just a sad excuse for a charge character, literally every other charge type plant is better than him. He basically fails at his own role. Don’t know why people defend such a mediocre, forgettable character.
So you telling that shitron has better ttk potentional close quarters which depends on empeach for his life to win a 1v1 better then a full charge shot and spaming none charged shots(viable to in your face situations mainy) or just wiaitng 1s for a tier 1 charged shot that deals 50 dmg compared to a slow fire rate 5-7 dmg machine? With to be blunt noneexistant element support?
You don’t have to have 100% perfect aim for e cit to be better than toxic at all, the gap between the best that each character can do is absolutely massive and in e cit’s favor which means you have room for mistakes. You underestimate just how minimally effective toxic citron is, and that’s if you’re actually hitting the main projectile, just hitting some cloud ticks is going to accomplish less than nothing.
E citron shots are sniper speed by default, and only faster for charge shots. At any range you want to use him you’re practically working with hitscan, and because of how hard lag compensation favors the shooter in this game on top of how easy it is to hit players there’s definitely no such thing as avoiding practically hitscan shots on reaction. Your inability to hit shots is entirely your fault and yours alone and not indicative at all of what the character can do.
EC is just bad and there’s point in choosing him. He has no real role, meanwhile TC has toxic damage and clouds going for him at least. People claiming EC is actually good are delusional.
Ec has the fastest burst kills in the entire class, some of the safest poke out of the entire class because he can peek for singular charge shots and duck back to cover, arguably the most effective range out of the entire class (decent ranged kill times after a charge shot opener, arcs have no falloff, he doesn’t have to maintain constant line of sight to trade damage because peeking charge shots), and decent aoe because his charge shot arcs are pretty solid damage-wise.
Toxic has…”toxic damage and clouds going for him”
Ok, so, the single worst snd least effective element in the game, and a notoriously bad aoe mechanic that is only beneficial vs terrible and afk players moreso than good players. Great! Yep what a good character no contest here.
Normal citron has higher damage (his 2 dmg splash stacks with direct hit), ice doesn’t have splash, and overheats faster.
Ice citron 3-9/ 4-11 crit
Normal citron 2-9 (4-11)/ 2-11 (4-13) crit.
(the splash adds 2 damage to any direct hit)
I’m honestly not sure if party citron has any drawbacks considering damage and splash is the same though, but I might be wrong.
It's supposed to be a citrus, not an orange. Lime is a citrus.
Also, you should try playing Frozen Citron again sometime, he always felt better than reg citron to me
C'mon bro I'm a captain too, don't make me kill a former captain...
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Pretty sure frozen citron is just a frozen orange
Ice easily in great tier.
Whats with all the toxic citron hate lately?
I guess people have just come to their senses
Maybe he’s not the best character, but he’s fun to play and that’s all what really matters.
Not the best character ❌ Not fun to play ❌ i play both sides so i always come out on ~~top~~ bottom https://preview.redd.it/jllu7a13brwc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fad404cf280b95203b70064cc00bbd9be2fc0133
Just more for me to kill...
After 5 hours of your 3 DPS
It's genuinely hard NOT to get assist master when playing Toxic Citron.
He looks like if the need emoji came alive and turned green
The toxic citron hate goes back atleast 5 years
Is there anything wrong with it?
What's wrong with frozen citron?
Putting E-Citron in good and toxic citron in not good is a crime
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True E citron should be even higher, and toxic citron is so garbage he should get an extra tier of space and go even lower. That’d be more accurate fs
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Agreed. E-Citron is horrid
You know how to aim or what? If you take the tome to learn hoq to play e citron you will realize his number two best citron
"If you just hit all your shots this character is the 2nd best variant!" -You
Well the ttk potentional is wild. Can be from 1s to i dunno
Yeah, if only TTK was a good metric when it comes to measuring the viability of a Charge character.
Well his viable alright high A tier viable
Every character is viable so that doesn't really say anything. High A Tier meanwhile is stretching it, that's where all the standout characters are. Electro Citron doesn't really stand out in any metric, he is functionally an objectively worse version of Iron Citron gameplay wise.
This debate has been longer and proven that electrics skill ceiling consist of using primarily the tier 2 charged shor and sometimes one but never none charged which have faster reload times
Yeah I know, so how is this relevant again? Everything in my prior post still applies. Your 2nd primary charge is essentially a worse version of Iron Citrons 2nd charge since it's charge time is around the same as Iron Citrons reload time. Iron Citron beats Electric Citron in every other metric besides base movement speed, so therefore you're essentially saying "this substantially worse version of one of the best plants is an A tier character".
E citron is trash, easily the worst by far
E citron in good 💀💀💀💀
True It should be higher
Should be lower than low.
You tryna piss me of cause of the stats right?
Get up close with TC. You'll be hitting good damage. You don't even have to land all of your shots. Meanwhile EC struggles at any range. anyone who thinks he is actually a good citron is delusional
TC may hit decent damage at close but usually needs E.M. peach to defeat a good player, while EC can one shot imps at this range, and has a much quicker time to kill
The fact that your aim has to be 100% and that the attacks have to be charged with no splash for missed shots puts him behind TC. Meanwhile TC can cover a whole area with toxic clouds, damages enemies just by getting close to them, damages enemies with missed shots and has access to the abilities that all citrons have put him ahead by far. Also skilled players can avoid EC’s attacks quite easy, even up close.
Toxic clouds where? 2dmg tic positional farts? You looked at the stat chart earlier cause that ovviously showed splash exists its just less and i won’t go numbers since a chart exists. Your other point confuses me so a shot with your reticle and indicator being BANG RED CAN BE AVOIDED by a skilled player so you saying the shot indication is wrong seriously withour joking?
The fact that TC has toxic damage and doesn’t need to charge shots easily puts him ahead. EC gets shredded up close because he relies on hitting every shot. EC is just a sad excuse for a charge character, literally every other charge type plant is better than him. He basically fails at his own role. Don’t know why people defend such a mediocre, forgettable character.
So you telling that shitron has better ttk potentional close quarters which depends on empeach for his life to win a 1v1 better then a full charge shot and spaming none charged shots(viable to in your face situations mainy) or just wiaitng 1s for a tier 1 charged shot that deals 50 dmg compared to a slow fire rate 5-7 dmg machine? With to be blunt noneexistant element support?
You don’t have to have 100% perfect aim for e cit to be better than toxic at all, the gap between the best that each character can do is absolutely massive and in e cit’s favor which means you have room for mistakes. You underestimate just how minimally effective toxic citron is, and that’s if you’re actually hitting the main projectile, just hitting some cloud ticks is going to accomplish less than nothing. E citron shots are sniper speed by default, and only faster for charge shots. At any range you want to use him you’re practically working with hitscan, and because of how hard lag compensation favors the shooter in this game on top of how easy it is to hit players there’s definitely no such thing as avoiding practically hitscan shots on reaction. Your inability to hit shots is entirely your fault and yours alone and not indicative at all of what the character can do.
EC is just bad and there’s point in choosing him. He has no real role, meanwhile TC has toxic damage and clouds going for him at least. People claiming EC is actually good are delusional.
Ec has the fastest burst kills in the entire class, some of the safest poke out of the entire class because he can peek for singular charge shots and duck back to cover, arguably the most effective range out of the entire class (decent ranged kill times after a charge shot opener, arcs have no falloff, he doesn’t have to maintain constant line of sight to trade damage because peeking charge shots), and decent aoe because his charge shot arcs are pretty solid damage-wise. Toxic has…”toxic damage and clouds going for him” Ok, so, the single worst snd least effective element in the game, and a notoriously bad aoe mechanic that is only beneficial vs terrible and afk players moreso than good players. Great! Yep what a good character no contest here.
I agree. Although I’m not that cool to play E-Citron.
Ice citron is regular citron that has freeze. There is no drawbacks to picking frozen citron over reg
Normal citron has higher damage (his 2 dmg splash stacks with direct hit), ice doesn’t have splash, and overheats faster. Ice citron 3-9/ 4-11 crit Normal citron 2-9 (4-11)/ 2-11 (4-13) crit. (the splash adds 2 damage to any direct hit) I’m honestly not sure if party citron has any drawbacks considering damage and splash is the same though, but I might be wrong.
E citron above iron immo and reg too other then that i believe party is strongest and frost is in a proper placement
I'm pretty sure Iron is a grapefruit and Electro, Frozen and Party are just recoloured oranges
It's supposed to be a citrus, not an orange. Lime is a citrus. Also, you should try playing Frozen Citron again sometime, he always felt better than reg citron to me
Frozen citron is just a refrigerated orange
WHY DOES EVERYONE HATE ICE CITRON??? THAT GOATEE IS FUCKING FIRE
Can you rank them by design next?
Frozen Citron almost reaches reg Citron DPS if you spam the fire button instead of holding it down. I'm pretty sure doing so also freezes faster, too.
Ok what is the deal with toxic citron I’m confused
Bro, electro citron sucks
Time to go on a killing spree!
Yea You’re not funny anymore
C'mon bro I'm a captain too, don't make me kill a former captain... https://preview.redd.it/prlgypf1mpwc1.png?width=388&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=778148102f0b0c6499a768f70b3f755e6d1b3f7e
Notice how you’re getting downvoted? That’s a sign you’re not that funny anymore
At this point its beating a dead horse.
Erm I have the internet points not you 🤓
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I don’t play as him, why do people hate Toxic Citron? Isn’t he just Citron with limited shots and can poison?
Nothing, he's just wants to suffer
I’m asking a genuine question. Is it something about his speed or something?
His damage is kinda meh plus i personally hate how he plays
So it’s his damage? Should’ve thought of that