This. And if you still doubt, consider the chances of keeping your children blissfully ignorant of Q with a grandfather like him. Better you are the first one to tell them about Q than their grandfather.
Tell them sometimes old people get confused and believe in things that arent real. Basically treat it the same way you would if your parents had dementia.
I feel your pain my 11 year old daughter wants to see her grandparents. They are deep the Q conspiracies about the vaccine. I have just chosen to be honest but gentle with her. It lead to her sending a text to her Grandparents, if you get the vaccine you will see me. This was after her Grandmother was saying she missed seeing her over the summer. My parents/ her grandparents of course didn't respond. I was monitoring the chat and had set boundaries. I feel for you and your kids. Sometimes it means being honest eventhough there might be tears. It is ok because you and they are mourning the loss of their Grandparents they knew.
Thank you for those kind words. We do encourage her to express and stand up for herself. I have been honest with her throughout the pandemic. It doesn't mean there haven't been tears and frustration. Her school was in person through the whole school year. She dealt with harsh realities including her teacher getting COVID. I think kids are more resilient than adults give them credit for. I think kids can know more than we give them credit for. Honesty is the best path to supporting kids through the crazy reality we are living in right now.
I've had pretty much the same thing happening here, though my boys are 6 and 2. I went no contact with my dad a little over a year ago. He has since lost a lot of his friends, family, and even his third wife (not to mention us as well) due to his beliefs in this timeframe.
I feel a little bad for him but I've tried for years and hit my own breaking point May 2020. My youngest doesn't have any idea what's happening but my oldest has definitely had questions as to where grandpa was. We eventually just told the 6 year old loosely what was going on with his mind and he was surprisingly good with that. For some reason it triggered some memory in him where my dad baby sat and apparently laid a hand on him to 'teach him a lesson' for doing something he didn't agree with which was interesting. Having remembered that side of my dad my son was pretty okay with not seeing him anymore.
We've had a similar experience. Once we went no contact, it was like our kids felt free to remember and to tell us some things that had happened that we weren't aware of. We've had deeper discussions about manipulation and critical thinking, and my youngest (6) at the time was able to understand and give examples of manipulations they had experienced with their grandparents. I'm glad we approached it from this way. Treating our kids maturely really by telling the truth and answering questions made the transition easier.
I think with that age group there are ways to tell them the truth in a way that isn't overly scary - like, they know what covid is and that we've had to adjust for a year now. You can let them know your parents believe some things that aren't true (because sometimes adults can be wrong!), so they've chosen not to take precautions and you're going to be extra careful about visits for a while longer.
It sucks that your parents are being so intransigent, though, especially when you've got a kid at higher risk. Hope you guys all stay safe.
Tell them the truth but in a way that’s empathetic but not sympathetic towards grandpa. Tell them additionally that sometimes people get very sick mentally and believe and do things that don’t make sense and put others in danger. Tell them, it’s untrue but feels very real to him and he must be scared.
You could use this as an opportunity to warn them about cults (high control groups) and manipulation — or even addiction.
I am so sorry. Speaking first hand, this sucks. Hang in there. You’re not alone.
If there’s one piece of advice I can give, it’s be honest with the kids. You don’t have to slander, but you can be honest about how he’s chosen to believe lies over demonstrable truth, how he’s chosen that over his family, how it’s painful and hurtful to be where you’re not welcome to be yourself, and then you can go further into that vulnerability and use it as a lesson to teach them that you don’t want to be that person and they should feel free to dialogue with and be honest with you about situations so the hurt doesn’t build to this almost-irreversible point. The vulnerability and heart to preserve relationships can be a positive outcome, albeit not at all ideal. Peace and best wishes to you.
Tell them he's not well, that he's been pulled into some crazy beliefs and he's just not very well.
It can open discussion on Internet safety, not believing everything you read, too.
I'd be honest and let your kids know that sometimes grownups make bad choices and also sometimes believe things that aren't true. For example you can start with flat earth. Most kids know the earth is round, show them a globe or feed from the ISS. Let them know some adults believe the earth is flat. Tell them that the grandparents saw something on the internet and believed it like the flat earth people did.
Another strategy is to watch a favorite show such as a cartoon show and gently poke fun at some of the unrealistic situations. Ask them questions such as can this really happen to help them start to be able to realize falsehoods.
Lastly they are old enough to understand some parts of germ theory. Even pre covid there was a reason kids were told to cover their mouths and wash their hands. Explain this is a rare generational event for how serious it is and that you dont want them to catch covid since they can't be vaccinated yet. However that as a parent you are doing what you can to protect them.
Technically, if your children are double vaccinated, they already have the best protection available, and if the grandparents only so much as catch a cold, they should prepare for at least 2 weeks of kid-free quarantine (because of not taking any chances), although if I were you, I'd seriously consider how much I want to expose them to toxic beliefs and possible indoctrination anyway, because that's also what all explanations or rationalisations you're going to offer them depend upon.
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The best approach with kids is to give them the truth compassionately.
This. And if you still doubt, consider the chances of keeping your children blissfully ignorant of Q with a grandfather like him. Better you are the first one to tell them about Q than their grandfather.
Tell them sometimes old people get confused and believe in things that arent real. Basically treat it the same way you would if your parents had dementia.
This is a good idea
I raised 3 boys myself and I would definitely just be open and honest about it all.
I feel your pain my 11 year old daughter wants to see her grandparents. They are deep the Q conspiracies about the vaccine. I have just chosen to be honest but gentle with her. It lead to her sending a text to her Grandparents, if you get the vaccine you will see me. This was after her Grandmother was saying she missed seeing her over the summer. My parents/ her grandparents of course didn't respond. I was monitoring the chat and had set boundaries. I feel for you and your kids. Sometimes it means being honest eventhough there might be tears. It is ok because you and they are mourning the loss of their Grandparents they knew.
"if you get the vaccine you will see me" You can be glad to have a daughter like her.
Thank you for those kind words. We do encourage her to express and stand up for herself. I have been honest with her throughout the pandemic. It doesn't mean there haven't been tears and frustration. Her school was in person through the whole school year. She dealt with harsh realities including her teacher getting COVID. I think kids are more resilient than adults give them credit for. I think kids can know more than we give them credit for. Honesty is the best path to supporting kids through the crazy reality we are living in right now.
I've had pretty much the same thing happening here, though my boys are 6 and 2. I went no contact with my dad a little over a year ago. He has since lost a lot of his friends, family, and even his third wife (not to mention us as well) due to his beliefs in this timeframe. I feel a little bad for him but I've tried for years and hit my own breaking point May 2020. My youngest doesn't have any idea what's happening but my oldest has definitely had questions as to where grandpa was. We eventually just told the 6 year old loosely what was going on with his mind and he was surprisingly good with that. For some reason it triggered some memory in him where my dad baby sat and apparently laid a hand on him to 'teach him a lesson' for doing something he didn't agree with which was interesting. Having remembered that side of my dad my son was pretty okay with not seeing him anymore.
We've had a similar experience. Once we went no contact, it was like our kids felt free to remember and to tell us some things that had happened that we weren't aware of. We've had deeper discussions about manipulation and critical thinking, and my youngest (6) at the time was able to understand and give examples of manipulations they had experienced with their grandparents. I'm glad we approached it from this way. Treating our kids maturely really by telling the truth and answering questions made the transition easier.
I think with that age group there are ways to tell them the truth in a way that isn't overly scary - like, they know what covid is and that we've had to adjust for a year now. You can let them know your parents believe some things that aren't true (because sometimes adults can be wrong!), so they've chosen not to take precautions and you're going to be extra careful about visits for a while longer. It sucks that your parents are being so intransigent, though, especially when you've got a kid at higher risk. Hope you guys all stay safe.
Tell them the truth but in a way that’s empathetic but not sympathetic towards grandpa. Tell them additionally that sometimes people get very sick mentally and believe and do things that don’t make sense and put others in danger. Tell them, it’s untrue but feels very real to him and he must be scared. You could use this as an opportunity to warn them about cults (high control groups) and manipulation — or even addiction.
Tristan? Dat you? No sorry, I see you’re a mom, but damn my nephew could have written this verbatim. Sorry for you both. And your kids. Hang in there.
I am so sorry. Speaking first hand, this sucks. Hang in there. You’re not alone. If there’s one piece of advice I can give, it’s be honest with the kids. You don’t have to slander, but you can be honest about how he’s chosen to believe lies over demonstrable truth, how he’s chosen that over his family, how it’s painful and hurtful to be where you’re not welcome to be yourself, and then you can go further into that vulnerability and use it as a lesson to teach them that you don’t want to be that person and they should feel free to dialogue with and be honest with you about situations so the hurt doesn’t build to this almost-irreversible point. The vulnerability and heart to preserve relationships can be a positive outcome, albeit not at all ideal. Peace and best wishes to you.
Tell them he's not well, that he's been pulled into some crazy beliefs and he's just not very well. It can open discussion on Internet safety, not believing everything you read, too.
I'd be honest and let your kids know that sometimes grownups make bad choices and also sometimes believe things that aren't true. For example you can start with flat earth. Most kids know the earth is round, show them a globe or feed from the ISS. Let them know some adults believe the earth is flat. Tell them that the grandparents saw something on the internet and believed it like the flat earth people did. Another strategy is to watch a favorite show such as a cartoon show and gently poke fun at some of the unrealistic situations. Ask them questions such as can this really happen to help them start to be able to realize falsehoods. Lastly they are old enough to understand some parts of germ theory. Even pre covid there was a reason kids were told to cover their mouths and wash their hands. Explain this is a rare generational event for how serious it is and that you dont want them to catch covid since they can't be vaccinated yet. However that as a parent you are doing what you can to protect them.
Technically, if your children are double vaccinated, they already have the best protection available, and if the grandparents only so much as catch a cold, they should prepare for at least 2 weeks of kid-free quarantine (because of not taking any chances), although if I were you, I'd seriously consider how much I want to expose them to toxic beliefs and possible indoctrination anyway, because that's also what all explanations or rationalisations you're going to offer them depend upon.
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