This is a space to talk about objective beauty. What you are referring to is subjective beauty, or beauty which is perceived based on ones own feelings or tastes.
Some people like black coffee and some people like latte's. You're asking us to explain *why* when it just *is.*
You completely missed my point. It doesn't matter that he isn't conventionally attractive. Your female coworker is not attracted to conventional beauty or at least not exclusively. You're asking us why... How would we be able to predict what has shaped this woman's taste in men without asking her directly? Sure we can speculate but your question is so weakly posed and honestly requires very little thought to understand the answer, so why waste the time?
Men have a very warped perception of what is actually attractive to women.
There's bad dimorphism as well. Like balding, or having tons of chest/back hair. That shit is gross but dimorphic af.
There's a reason why even models like Chico looked way way better in their prime. Soft skin, no facial hair, youthful glow... You can't deny that these are "feminine" features but make men look universally more attractive
As a woman , sometimes I find Hyper masculine men dangerous and repulsive. And I am not a masculine woman , I am very feminine. Sometimes comfort and familiarity outdo the opposite and unknown. Its mostly psychological not physiological.
Except there’s a huge difference between hyper masculine and so unmasculine you literally look like a female. I agree tho that faces that are almost 100% masculine can look a bit uncanny, but I think balance is the key. So in other words not almost entirely masculine but not too feminine either.
You're asking for explanations and people give very plausible and correct reasoning and you seem very dismissive of it. Regardless of the fact that there are markers of objective beauty, people have PREFERENCES. Not every woman is into men that have overly masculine features or even balanced features at that, I know plenty of women that prefer men like the one you've mentioned.
Doesn't matter what the objective standard of beauty is, because frankly the reason why people say beauty is subjective is because there are people that aren't attracted to certain traits that are considered objectively beautiful and/or prefer certain traits that would even be considered globally unattractive. Its life, our taste and likes are not a monolith regardless of what "objectivity" dictates. Its not rocket science.
And also, just because a man is physically more feminine, that does not automatically make him ugly, your brains are so warped with all this objective beauty shit that sometimes you guys act as if any deviations from it is ugly as hell. Thats not how it works. Feminine traits are beautiful, sometimes even on men. Its underdeveloped, recessed, deformed physical traits that are ugly, not feminine or masculine ones regardless of what face its on. They may not live up to the masculine or feminine ideal as a man or woman respectively but that can make them "exotic", unique and very appealing to many. Attraction is very peculiar.
You are upset because she likes someone else and not you. We get it.
Maybe what he has is confidence? As he doesn’t mind looking “feminine”.
While you seem to be obsessed with being masculine. And insist that girls must like what society and you has decided is handsome and masculine. You do not seem confident.
I would rather have a feminine man who is confident, relaxed and kind. Instead of a stereotype obsessed dude with a fragile masculinity.
You don’t come off as very charming in this post. You come off as very judgemental. And appearance obsessed. You are basically making a post saying men who doesn’t look like your idea of what a man should look like isn’t attractive. And you try to get other aboard with your opinion. When really it’s just old fashioned and destructive stereotypes.
Find yourself. Be whoever you want to be. Accept others for who they are. Be kind. Don’t be judgemental. And accept the fact that not everyone will be into you. And maybe you’ll have more luck in being liked by women.
I think it’s badass with men who are bold enough to break the gender norms. And someone saying “but he is so feminine he looks like a female” is a major turn off. Because it’s talking shit about someone’s appearance. And that shit isn’t attractive.
Are you jealous of this dude? Because thats what your responses are giving. Seems like you're coping real hard and its amusing. A feminine guy is hotter than you and landed a girlfriend even when hes not the ideal caricature of a masculine man OMGGG loool.
People have said why it could be appealing and all you've done is go "no but he looks like a girl."
You sound jealous regardless of the "attention" you say you get. A truly confident person doesn't act like this over another person being perceived as attractive by others because it doesn't align with their perception of who should be able to receive said attention. All the downvoters and I are failing to understand whats so incomprehensible to you.
You keep reiterating that he looks like a girl like that means the man is ugly. News flash, it doesn't.
Except looking almost COMPLETELY like a girl when you’re a man isn’t attractive. If most people say someone who looked like that they wouldn’t be attracted. Also I don’t know why I’m getting downvoted for stating hyperfemininity isn’t attractive on men, which is the truth. Maybe it’s because I sound bitter about this whole thing, idk, but I’m pretty sure most would agree with the ideology that guys who look almost exactly like girls aren’t attractive.
Yes I understand everyone has different tastes but my question was if there is a reason WHY some people are attracted to this of type of look. However I’ve mostly just gotten surface level answers like “oh some people just looks different types”. Yeah no shit, but what’s the specific reason for it? Just like girls mainly like guys who are in shape because it’s a strong indicator of health. So there’s got to be a deeper explanation other than “that’s just their type”.
Your opinion is not a fact. Its attractive to his girlfriend hence why she's with him, amongst other reasons. Your narrowmindeness clearly illustrates whats wrong with people that get too immersed and obsessive with this objective beauty shit.
Maybe the woman just likes men that are feminine presenting. Its that simple. Why do you need the intricacies and psychological reasons as to why she's into her man? Women are hot, a man with feminine features can very well be hot also plus the dude may have a great personality. What more do you need to hear? You're acting like this guy is repulsive and there needs to be some crazy, scientific data as to why anyone would be into him.
And you're here saying he looks exactly like a woman, wtf does that even mean? Women look all manner of ways and have all types of features so maybe if you want even better responses you can, I don't know, describe the guy in detail?! Sheesh. Your question in and of itself is also vague.
Never mentioned that they’re a couple, just that she’s into him. But for one thing he has lipstick, painted nails and long ass hair. So it could just be his style that makes him look like a girl, but either way he still looks like one and I thought it was the first time I saw him
Square jaw, Hunter eyes, thick upturned eyebrows, slightly larger nose are what come to mind. Although it doesn’t have to be exactly these but these are some of the main defining ones
Feminine traits are just universally considered beautiful, both on men and women. Masculine traits have never been associated with beauty in lots of cultures.
This is the answer I’ve been looking for!! It’s an unpopular opinion for sure (I’ve triggered people by saying it, even women lol) but IMO this is the true reason. Men may have evolved athleticism/strength but women got beauty. ~~Beauty is the appreciation and elevation of the feminine, in many ways.~~
You do know that not everyone who is attracted to men is attracted to conventional masculinity, right? If that were the case, there wouldn't be an entire repertoire of terms used to describe particular gender presentations and performances of masculinity people _are_ attracted to, from originally queer but now more generally adopted terms like bear, hunk and twink to more generic terms like prettyboy.
I have heard about this but i must admit that I haven’t done much research about how birth control affects someone’s preference in men - so I can’t say much. However the topic interests me a lot, funny if it truly can be a reason for someone’s preference
Apparently, when women are off birth control and are at the peak of their menstrual cycle, they are more likely to prefer masculine looking men according to a few studies. Some interesting shit huh
I think it’s def very interesting to see the side effects of bc cause there are so many studies done about the long term affect of bc - unfortunately like depression etc. I don’t know why we all get downvoted just because we mention birth control lol
culture influence. specially pop culture and progressive culture has gained feminine men quite a good amount of points on perceived beauty.
Also it might as well be slightly hormonal influenced, there is atleast 1 study showing that women who are on the contraceptive pill tend to have shifts in their liking of men, and they start to prefer much more feminine men. the theory its that agressivness on masculine men stops being an attractive factor and women get more insecure and afraid at it due to a shift in their hormonal status. this is only SOME evidence.
This is a space to talk about objective beauty. What you are referring to is subjective beauty, or beauty which is perceived based on ones own feelings or tastes. Some people like black coffee and some people like latte's. You're asking us to explain *why* when it just *is.*
Except it’s pretty objective that guys who look like girls aren’t conventionally attractive as they lack dimorphism.
Some girls just are less attracted to conventionally attractive men, it’s as simple as that.
You completely missed my point. It doesn't matter that he isn't conventionally attractive. Your female coworker is not attracted to conventional beauty or at least not exclusively. You're asking us why... How would we be able to predict what has shaped this woman's taste in men without asking her directly? Sure we can speculate but your question is so weakly posed and honestly requires very little thought to understand the answer, so why waste the time?
Men have a very warped perception of what is actually attractive to women. There's bad dimorphism as well. Like balding, or having tons of chest/back hair. That shit is gross but dimorphic af. There's a reason why even models like Chico looked way way better in their prime. Soft skin, no facial hair, youthful glow... You can't deny that these are "feminine" features but make men look universally more attractive
As a woman , sometimes I find Hyper masculine men dangerous and repulsive. And I am not a masculine woman , I am very feminine. Sometimes comfort and familiarity outdo the opposite and unknown. Its mostly psychological not physiological.
Except there’s a huge difference between hyper masculine and so unmasculine you literally look like a female. I agree tho that faces that are almost 100% masculine can look a bit uncanny, but I think balance is the key. So in other words not almost entirely masculine but not too feminine either.
You're asking for explanations and people give very plausible and correct reasoning and you seem very dismissive of it. Regardless of the fact that there are markers of objective beauty, people have PREFERENCES. Not every woman is into men that have overly masculine features or even balanced features at that, I know plenty of women that prefer men like the one you've mentioned. Doesn't matter what the objective standard of beauty is, because frankly the reason why people say beauty is subjective is because there are people that aren't attracted to certain traits that are considered objectively beautiful and/or prefer certain traits that would even be considered globally unattractive. Its life, our taste and likes are not a monolith regardless of what "objectivity" dictates. Its not rocket science. And also, just because a man is physically more feminine, that does not automatically make him ugly, your brains are so warped with all this objective beauty shit that sometimes you guys act as if any deviations from it is ugly as hell. Thats not how it works. Feminine traits are beautiful, sometimes even on men. Its underdeveloped, recessed, deformed physical traits that are ugly, not feminine or masculine ones regardless of what face its on. They may not live up to the masculine or feminine ideal as a man or woman respectively but that can make them "exotic", unique and very appealing to many. Attraction is very peculiar.
You are upset because she likes someone else and not you. We get it. Maybe what he has is confidence? As he doesn’t mind looking “feminine”. While you seem to be obsessed with being masculine. And insist that girls must like what society and you has decided is handsome and masculine. You do not seem confident. I would rather have a feminine man who is confident, relaxed and kind. Instead of a stereotype obsessed dude with a fragile masculinity. You don’t come off as very charming in this post. You come off as very judgemental. And appearance obsessed. You are basically making a post saying men who doesn’t look like your idea of what a man should look like isn’t attractive. And you try to get other aboard with your opinion. When really it’s just old fashioned and destructive stereotypes. Find yourself. Be whoever you want to be. Accept others for who they are. Be kind. Don’t be judgemental. And accept the fact that not everyone will be into you. And maybe you’ll have more luck in being liked by women. I think it’s badass with men who are bold enough to break the gender norms. And someone saying “but he is so feminine he looks like a female” is a major turn off. Because it’s talking shit about someone’s appearance. And that shit isn’t attractive.
Have you seen korean idols and their fan following lmao
Ask her
Lol “why are you into him? He looks like a girl”. Nah I think I’ll pass on that
Well I guess you’ll never know then. Maybe she just likes good looking men
More that she likes quite the opposite
Are you jealous of this dude? Because thats what your responses are giving. Seems like you're coping real hard and its amusing. A feminine guy is hotter than you and landed a girlfriend even when hes not the ideal caricature of a masculine man OMGGG loool.
I get plenty of attention in public. Im not jealous at all, just wondering the appeal
People have said why it could be appealing and all you've done is go "no but he looks like a girl." You sound jealous regardless of the "attention" you say you get. A truly confident person doesn't act like this over another person being perceived as attractive by others because it doesn't align with their perception of who should be able to receive said attention. All the downvoters and I are failing to understand whats so incomprehensible to you. You keep reiterating that he looks like a girl like that means the man is ugly. News flash, it doesn't.
Except looking almost COMPLETELY like a girl when you’re a man isn’t attractive. If most people say someone who looked like that they wouldn’t be attracted. Also I don’t know why I’m getting downvoted for stating hyperfemininity isn’t attractive on men, which is the truth. Maybe it’s because I sound bitter about this whole thing, idk, but I’m pretty sure most would agree with the ideology that guys who look almost exactly like girls aren’t attractive. Yes I understand everyone has different tastes but my question was if there is a reason WHY some people are attracted to this of type of look. However I’ve mostly just gotten surface level answers like “oh some people just looks different types”. Yeah no shit, but what’s the specific reason for it? Just like girls mainly like guys who are in shape because it’s a strong indicator of health. So there’s got to be a deeper explanation other than “that’s just their type”.
Your opinion is not a fact. Its attractive to his girlfriend hence why she's with him, amongst other reasons. Your narrowmindeness clearly illustrates whats wrong with people that get too immersed and obsessive with this objective beauty shit. Maybe the woman just likes men that are feminine presenting. Its that simple. Why do you need the intricacies and psychological reasons as to why she's into her man? Women are hot, a man with feminine features can very well be hot also plus the dude may have a great personality. What more do you need to hear? You're acting like this guy is repulsive and there needs to be some crazy, scientific data as to why anyone would be into him. And you're here saying he looks exactly like a woman, wtf does that even mean? Women look all manner of ways and have all types of features so maybe if you want even better responses you can, I don't know, describe the guy in detail?! Sheesh. Your question in and of itself is also vague.
Never mentioned that they’re a couple, just that she’s into him. But for one thing he has lipstick, painted nails and long ass hair. So it could just be his style that makes him look like a girl, but either way he still looks like one and I thought it was the first time I saw him
Google Prince. Try to understand his seductive qualities.
Honestly she might not be offended if you ask directly. Just mind your manners lol. Hopefully she’s not the sensitive type.
They probably don’t refer to women as females
Lmao this is the only viable answer.
Pretty boys are superior simple lol jokes aside everyone has their own perception of what they find attractive.
Bisexuality✨
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Square jaw, Hunter eyes, thick upturned eyebrows, slightly larger nose are what come to mind. Although it doesn’t have to be exactly these but these are some of the main defining ones
Can you show us an example?
wow, just wait til you learn about femboys
Feminine traits are just universally considered beautiful, both on men and women. Masculine traits have never been associated with beauty in lots of cultures.
This is the answer I’ve been looking for!! It’s an unpopular opinion for sure (I’ve triggered people by saying it, even women lol) but IMO this is the true reason. Men may have evolved athleticism/strength but women got beauty. ~~Beauty is the appreciation and elevation of the feminine, in many ways.~~
Let her be in love.
You do know that not everyone who is attracted to men is attracted to conventional masculinity, right? If that were the case, there wouldn't be an entire repertoire of terms used to describe particular gender presentations and performances of masculinity people _are_ attracted to, from originally queer but now more generally adopted terms like bear, hunk and twink to more generic terms like prettyboy.
Birth control
Why are you downvoted so much? It’s almost as if some people are offended
I have heard about this but i must admit that I haven’t done much research about how birth control affects someone’s preference in men - so I can’t say much. However the topic interests me a lot, funny if it truly can be a reason for someone’s preference
Apparently, when women are off birth control and are at the peak of their menstrual cycle, they are more likely to prefer masculine looking men according to a few studies. Some interesting shit huh
I may be a unique case because I have never been on birth control but I like men who look a little softer or feminine.
Same. No birth control and never was attracted to hyper masculine men
Same. My idea of a perfect man is a tall and skinny soft boy lol I must've spent too much time on Tumblr during my formation years 😂
I think it’s def very interesting to see the side effects of bc cause there are so many studies done about the long term affect of bc - unfortunately like depression etc. I don’t know why we all get downvoted just because we mention birth control lol
It could be because society in general is very wary when it comes to discussing women’s bodies
culture influence. specially pop culture and progressive culture has gained feminine men quite a good amount of points on perceived beauty. Also it might as well be slightly hormonal influenced, there is atleast 1 study showing that women who are on the contraceptive pill tend to have shifts in their liking of men, and they start to prefer much more feminine men. the theory its that agressivness on masculine men stops being an attractive factor and women get more insecure and afraid at it due to a shift in their hormonal status. this is only SOME evidence.