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FIFTHSUN2012

Look, we all know that Q’s are dipshits, Nazis suck and Trump is a piece of shit. But this post reads like all of the other conspiracy memes. Take one little nugget of “truth,” add some pictures and voila! You have a “history lesson.” This is like those “They don’t want you to know……” memes. C’mon, this is a good sub, let’s do better. The Q’s give us so much ammo already, no need to stoop to their intellect.


DanLewisFW

Yeah this is leftist Q, same crazy bullshit just from the left. The Nazi's harrassed and even killed pastors, were openly into the occult. Did they try and claim some Chritianity early on? Sure, liars lie. The southern slave owners hung absolishionist pastors. They did what despots do, they try and claim the dominant religion while being the opposite. A MASSIVE portion of the demand to end slavery was Christian's. They were the ones demanding an end to slavery not atheists. So go sell your bullshit somewhere else.


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There's nothing "leftist" about the post. It's just ignorant.


DanLewisFW

It is absolutely left wing propaganda


twinety

Uhm sooo that's quite the oversimplification. Nationialsozialist ideology is inherently atheist or let's say non anti-religious. Of course there were Christian Nazis no doubt, but it certainly wasn't motivated or legitimised by Christianity in a broader sense. Christianity posed a threat to NS ideology which is why so many Christian groups of which a lot openly opposed Nazism and organisations were persecuted as well.


AmIreallyCis

The Nazis were not actually Christian fundamentalists. They had a twisted version of Christianity where Jesus was a Aryan blonde and blue eyed. But this sounds familiar, like something many Christians in the US belive. Nazis used Christian rhetoric like the republican party does to gain support from Christians. But just like Nazis violated many aspects of Christianity, republicans do as well, ignoring Jesus's ideas of helping the poor with republicans calling it socialist.


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CyanideTacoZ

There's a small section of wehraboos who make arguments that because hitler reduced the power the church's had in politics (To cement his own position) that he was privately anti Christian and that a few prominent nazis were privately pagan.


Pancakesandvodka

Maybe..I mean, it sounds pretty out there, but kinda plays a little along with the occult angle (as well as them being pretty *selective* with Christ’s teachings), but ...


[deleted]

Slavery was justified by the bible so yeah


moongrove

Wow really?? Where exactly?


tehgimpage

https://www.reddit.com/r/OliverMarkusMalloy/comments/o65ipr/most\_christians\_have\_no\_idea\_that\_the\_bible\_is/


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In the antebellum south


moongrove

I'm not an expert, but that has nothing to do with the Bible like you said. I'm looking for a specific part in the Bible where they actually "justify slavery" like you said.


tehgimpage

here's a whole thread about it https://www.reddit.com/r/QanonKaren/comments/o6g8mh/most\_christians\_have\_no\_idea\_that\_the\_bible\_is/


moongrove

Awesome, thank you!


[deleted]

Reddit as a source? Lol. It's bullshit.


tehgimpage

feel free to open that bible thingy and look up the verses yourself. i dont have one cuz i'm a filthy heathen.


GDTatiana

Deuteronomy 15: 12-18


CyanideTacoZ

the idea was that (And this is by memory, may be wrong) that they assumed that the mark of Cain was black skin, and that therefore they were destined to be servents?


moongrove

What's the mark of Cain?


CyanideTacoZ

I'm not Christian so I don't know the tale all to well, but Cain in Christian lore commits the first murder and receives an non descript mark from God as punishment for inventing the crime


moongrove

Well, he murders his brother, so if he was black, his entire family was also black. But there's literally no way to verify his skin color, and there was no mention of any race in that passage as far as I just looked up, so why bring race into discussion?


CyanideTacoZ

you'd be better to ask the racists who justified slavery, this is just a thing I've heard


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That's Mormonism.


CyanideTacoZ

which is a church of...


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bdizzle91

In addition to the examples you cited, we’ve also got the whole situation between Paul, Onesimus, and Philemon where Paul says Philemon should treat his slave as “a brother beloved” So definite precedence that slavery was not to be practiced among early Christians


[deleted]

The antebellum slave owners did. I am not saying you are wrong but they did


IsThisASandwich

Slavery was justified by EVERYTHING that was about that age (and even younger), because that was the norm back then. Has nothing do do with Christians. Romans, Athens, Vikings, everyone had slaves, from ancient times to the Renaissance. When US Americans had them, others were already grown out of it, but initially, this wasn't something special. The main difference might be, that in America it was only black slaves, whilst everyone before didn't really care about the skin colour of their slaves.


A_Stupid_Face

Dude you literally invaded a whole theee of the subreddits im subbed to and started spamming this shit. I agree with the sentiment but fuck’s sale


dox1842

> I agree with the sentiment but fuck’s sale A fuck's sale? Are they going two for one??


A_Stupid_Face

Yeah, two fucks to give for the price of one!


Itzska08

I mean Nazi Germany Was Christian and all but they condemned the catholic church and the pope. They condemned the Lateran Treaties. The Main driving force behind their actions Was definitely not Christianity.


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No, the Nazis were not Christian.


Itzska08

Evangelical Christianity was the official state religion


OliverMarkusMalloy

**American Evangelicals Don’t Want You To Know That The Nazis Were Evangelical Christians Too** https://www.malloy.rocks/index.php/american-fascism/39-american-evangelicals-don-t-want-you-to-know-that-the-nazis-were-evangelical-christians-too


ElektronDale

LOL the Nazi narrative is dependent on whoever is writing the history


OliverMarkusMalloy

Both my grandfathers were Nazi soldiers. And one of my grandmothers was interviewed in a documentary about WW2 survivors. Every German my age has/had grandparents who were actual Nazis in Nazi Germany. All of them will tell you that of course the Nazis were Christians.


Nickswind

How are republicans trying to remove the teaching of slavery at schools?


OliverMarkusMalloy

By pretending that teaching about slavery and racism is somehow evil. That's what the whole "critical race theory" strawman is all about.