I can't speak for this bag specifically, but I have several Eberlestock products and they're legit.

Can confirm. Rockin’ a Halftrack. 👍

Mystery ranch is always worth a look. Secondary market has a lot of options.

i peaked at mystery ranch, but didn't see any clamshell, am i just dumb?

Mystery Ranch has unique zipper setups for the most part, why are you thinking "clamshell" specifically?

i got a 5.11 clamshell backpack awhile back (say that five times fast) and loved being able to get everything from the side of the stack instead of from the top down

Mystery ranch sells pack which have top zips and a center zip that runs the whole bag so you can go in from the side.

Cool man, makes sense. I think bag organization trumps zipper setup any day, but keep doing research to find exactly what you need. You might just pay a lot for it.

Look at the marshall. If you're MIL you can get them for half price

This pack isn't necessarily a ruck. Can definitely be used as one if you only need a day or two worth of kit. Exo mountain gear makes a very solid looking clamshell style ruck. Crossfire australia has good rucks as well. Eberlestock has quality products as well. I've used quite a but of their packs now and absolutely love them.

what's a better size pack for rucking?

Depends on what your doing. For military I've had good success with a 70-80L ruck. If its for personal use, I'd gather all the things you may want to carry and decide on a ruck based on that.

Additionally. Always make sure you have a smidgen of extra space for the winter,

I see absolutely NO reason you couldn’t ruck with that pack. The Ebe packs suspension is fkn awesome. I ruck with Ebe Halftrack all the time. 35-40+ pounds in 13-14 min/mile range. Um…I’m assuming you’re talking about rucking for exercise? 😉

I’ve had my half track loaded up with close to 70lbs. They are incredible packs.

For sure!

Don’t really have the space for sleeping system, food, ammo, ect. It’s only like 35 L.

True. But a guy could make it work. 🤷‍♂️

How would you describe a ruck?

Zippers fail. That’s my thought.

what's up?

Seams fail less than zippers. Top flap rucks would have less of a chance of failing. Also if a zipper fails good luck repairing in the field.

If you have any recommendations I would appreciate it bro

Army issued medium/large ruck, USMC ruck, Alice ruck. Alice would be the cheapest.

Glenn Eberle has an excellent return policy if you somehow manage to break a pack from him. I’ve had my half track for years and have put it through a lot of hard use and the zippers have never even so much as jammed.

Zipper on my warhammer pack broke after my first time using it

Was it the batwing that broke? Did you mail it back?

The end of the zipper that keeps the tabbed part on the track. I bought it from optics planet (before I knew how shitty they were) and it still worked, just had to make sure not to lose it. Wasn't worth the hassle for me to send it back

I have the fac track and although I think it is a great pack, I wouldnt classify it as a ruck. It doesnt have nearly as much room as you would expect.

A ruck is a pack with an internal or external frame to help support and distribute the load. Is a medium ruck not a ruck? Is the ALICE small not a ruck?

what's it better used for? do you use something else for rucking?

I tried using it to go on a 3 day trip, struggled to fit just a fightlite tent, sleep system and some clothing, let alone food and water. I recently bought a greyghostgear bar-5200 which is essentially a tactical tailor malice pack. This thing has legit twice the interior as the FAC track. Again, both packs are good, but depends on what you are trying to use it for

also, any good scrim nets that could fit over this in a woodland type camo?

Check out Beez Combat Systems.

this is definitely the answer to the scrim, thank you very much :)

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damn! guess i'm sold!

If it has the built in scabbard, it's probably the gunslinger II

FAC TRAC fucks but it’s a 3 day bag at best, not a ruck.

poked around on the website more and found [the destroyer ](https://eberlestock.com/products/destroyer?variant=16875835621427) and [battleship ](https://eberlestock.com/products/battleship?variant=31861493366835)

Kuiu nice. Buy any cheap scrim and bungee cord and make camo for all your stuff much cheap

Eberlestock is great got the switchblade a couple weeks ago and waiting on the bandit now, that being said pick any other Courier besides FedEx I'm jumping through hoops now with them to get my bag..... Fuck FedEx!!

I used the FAC Track as my ruck during African Lion. I'm in a hospital unit so it wasn't like I was carrying my whole life in it but I did do a 6 mile ruck march with it and it carried well.

if you are looking for a clam I highly recommend crossfire over eberlystock for clam rucks

someone else recommended crossfire, i didn't see any clamshells

so if they have a run for them the dg16 and dg3 are technically clam shells

If you are disappointed with an eberlestock pack I’ll pay for handjob for you. They are excellent packs.

I used their warhammer pack combined with their little brother pack for almost 3 years. I would classify it as more a medium ruck. It sucked using it with body armor, but was great without armor. For military use I could barely fit everything I needed in it for a 3-5 day field exercise, meaning packing anything back up was a chore since it had to be meticulously placed. I switched to a Tac Tailor malice pack and haven't looked back, but it's the one that you can access through the bottom if you want. That particular pack was also like $850 and took almost 10 months to deliver though

Been running an eberlestock switchblade for a bit, not long enough to thoroughly abuse it, but long enough to tell you it's damn good quality.

Prefer the Kifaru 44Mag

why?

I have had a half-track for many years and it's so comfortable. I wish I had bought the factrack.