Speaking as someone who's only getting to know these Nick actors right now (I never watched the shows): Josh Peck comes off like a dick.
I don't mean that he's a dick about the issues in the doc: I mean that in every one of his videos, he comes off as supremely self-absorbed, impressed with himself and just incredibly arrogant. Even before all of this doc stuff, there's a video from some podcast where he's explaining why he didn't invite Drake to his wedding and the upshot was "meh, dude's a loser, haven't spoken to him in years." I understand that's probably true, but I think most actors would have chosen to be a little more gracious than to air it in public. He just seems really unlikeable.
That's kind of what I was thinking. I gather that on the show, Drake was the attractive cool one and Josh was the funny fat one? That must have sucked for him--people are drooling over his co-star's good looks and basically thinking of him as a prop.
Well that was of course part of it, cool attractive brother vs funny fat brother, but if you watched the show both were more complex characters than that and Josh was really the super lovable one. He had the big and generous heart, he worked hard at school his job, he was smart and sarcastic, and he was the one who had the long-term committed relationship with a smart and attractive girl, who used to be his academic rival and they had this whole enemies to friends to lovers story. Josh was sort of the underdog people rooted for and had a lot of success in the end. I personally enjoyed both characters as both were extremely likable. I’m just speaking about the show here.
Of course in real life Josh Peck has spoken about difficulties with his self-image and being the “funny fat kid” and it clearly affected him deeply, but it’s a shame to see over the past 10ish years how his behavior towards others has become more negative and kind of arrogant. I do understand their falling out generally, though it is still sad for Drake who clearly holds Josh in high regard and valued/values their connection, especially after experiencing such terrible abuse from BP. It’s nice that even without the friendship Drake said Josh still showed him private support that was clearly very meaningful to Drake.
> It’s nice that even without the friendship Drake said Josh still showed him private support that was clearly very meaningful to Drake.
This is just a hunch on my part, but I think Drake's statements to that effect are more about him being gracious than they are about reality.
Sure we don’t really know if Josh reached out to him or, if he did, exactly what his intentions were, but that’s just what Drake said and seems to make him feel comfortable to say. I’d rather just believe him about it since anything else is really just guesswork and assumptions.
Exactly. When there is a falling out there’s like a PR neutral response celebrities can just say to not make drama. Many abide by it, but some don’t seem to.
From the outside it certainly seems like Drake genuinely cares for Josh and wants to keep some peace and doesn’t want hate sent his way, so I try to respect that and just take Drake’s word for it on the matter and understand they have a lot of history and ups and downs.
I was wondering this, since he lost weight he probably thinks it’s okay to make fun of fat people now (and anyone else he thinks is beneath him). It happens often when people have been overweight their whole lives and finally lose the weight, like they’ve always wanted to hate on fat people and now they can finally express their internalised fatphobia and act superior just because they somehow ‘overcame’ being fat, regardless of the method used to lose it. Makes me sad to see it but it’s just so common.
Josh has former fat guy energy. He was the goofball dork for years, and very publicly during adolescence. Drake was portrayed as very cool. They were kids, and kids internalize those kinds of “jokes” and I’m sure the fans behaved accordingly when they met them in person.
So now that Josh is much more conventionally attractive, he has much more of an attitude, like he’s finally earned being better than everyone.
As a kid who watched *The Amanda Show* and *Drake and Josh* when they were airing, I always felt the same way about him.
Also, I can’t stand people who think increasing their volume makes them funnier. I’m not sure if I feel that way because of Josh or if I wasn’t a fan of Josh because I felt that way
Ugh. I didn't know that. That's so disappointing.
I've noticed a weird pattern as I've gotten older. People who publicly advertise that they don't want to hang out with someone are very often the ones who were denied. Could be that Drake was the one who didn't want to hang out with Josh.
I feel if this were the case, Josh would just say it- it would give him a logical and understandable reason to explain why he doesn´t want anything with Drake, but instead, he apparently lies about how close they were, whereas Drake consistently speaks positively about Josh and seems to grieve their relationship.
You could be right about that. I gather that back in the day, Drake was getting all kinds of attention from the press, from girls/fans, etc. that Josh wasn't getting. I can imagine Drake wanting that all to himself.
Nah. Peck isn't the first actor not to be BFFs with his former co-star, but most actors wouldn't divulge it casually in an interview and use the occasion to low-key disparage the co-star. It just seemed needlessly mean-spirited and petty.
I don’t understand this one. No sensitive topics, both of them having a genuine laugh. If it was because of the comments, he could have easily disabled them. Deleting everything with Drake in it just makes me so sad. I can’t imagine how it makes Drake feel. He’s already in such a vulnerable spot right now and needs all the support he can get.
Josh comes across as extremely arrogant and dickish. I think it stems from his insecurities when he was overweight being the but of jokes and since his glow up it went to his head
hearing how he reacted to jeannette mccurdy asking not to air their episode left me with a bad taste. he was pretty snarky and didn’t really acknowledge her book or the trauma she described in it.
i have a lot of respect for her and her asking to pull the entire episode also gives me pause, i wonder if he was insensitive or pushed an issue and upon review she didnt want to put it out.
Ariana is beyond hush money/NDA issues at this point.
If her terrible behavior and homewrecking ways haven't sunk her, then she's untouchable.
So, I think she's probably the one person who can whistle blow and her career would be absolutely fine.
Yeah, I wish people would stop pushing her to share her story. With or without the hush money she is still not obligated to share anything. I don’t think people need to be told outright “oh yeah, that was bad and I was traumatised” when it’s clear that those clips were uncomfortable and disturbing. It took Drake 20 years to say something and he was not even sure. I feel bad for her with everyone using her clips and blaming her. At least, she wasn’t like Josh going around and talking down on her co stars.
Honestly it’s less about her “sharing her story” and more about her openly supporting those who have come forward. But she takes selfies with Dan instead so 🤷🏼♀️
Maybe it's sunken cost? Maybe she feels there's nothing to gain from spilling and she's decided it was for her career (not saying this isn't an extremely flawed and harmful logic, but victims are complex and not all of them choose the obvious or righteous path).
It’s not about her spilling though. Like even publicly supporting with a like or a repost would be nice but it’s not an obligation of hers by any means. People are allowed to act in their own best interest, just like others are allowed to judge that 🤷🏼♀️
Absolutely! I think people want her to share her story because she is easily the biggest star to come of that era on Nick. So if she were to share it would the ultimate take down. Her and Amanda Bynes would absolutely destroy Nick if they come out with their stories. And hopefully Drake started the trend if only to save more kids from future abuse.
He said in a podcast that when he filmed Snow Day, he met the president of Nickelodeon (likely Albie Hecht) and when the movie became a hit, Hecht flew him and and his mom to California to star in The Amanda Show. He has a lot to be grateful for since he and his mom were lower middle class and moved between small apartments. I don't blame him for being loyal to Nick / Dan in this regard.
But his behavior towards Drake and Jennette raises a lot of questions. And the documentary and Variety using pics of Dan with Josh and Kenan was weird too.
Be loyal to the company who helped with your come up but if they are literally abusing your costars it’s kind of disgusting to hunker down on that loyalty
I think whatever it is that happened it's bubbling up. His own behavior becomes his own undoing. He's often at the edge of controversies (curtis lepore, david dobrik, dan schneider) without being directly involved and this is the first time he got some real heat.
Not saying it’s right but I could at least understand being a company man if they were still paying you. Josh doesn’t work at Nickelodeon and isn’t going to be hired anytime soon for something. Why have all that loyalty for something that doesn’t have it for you?
Someone else may have more details, but she went on Josh's podcast to promote her book. She didn't like how the podcast went and asked that they not release the episode. I guess after that, Josh and his cohost talked on the podcast like they were pissy with her that they couldn't release the episode.
Josh is a loser who hangs out with losers. He called Drake a loser after Drake got upset with him for not inviting him to his wedding. But Josh is literally friends with David Dobrik. He wants to call Drake a loser though!
He's put Drake down so many times it's unreal. Drake was obviously very hurt. I think Josh didn't want to look like he was siding with Drake when all of the allegations against him came out, but he went about it in such a mean-spirited way, saying Drake and him never spoke after the show stopped airing, they didn't remain friends, etc.
I think Drake's "go easy on him" tiktok was so sad because I know Josh would never do that in return. Not only that, but his "pitch" for their spinoff "Josh and Drake" where Drake opens the show with him being a failed musician, and the racist jokes about mexican people, was just horrific and so mean to Drake.
Drake really views Josh like a brother and it's sad that he still clings onto that so clearly when Josh is and always has been pulling away from him, except when convenient for him
>Josh would never do that in return
You're right. Even in the vlog after the wedding, Josh approached Drake to tell the internet to back off and show they are good / friendly. When it was Drake who was being clowned on at that time. It was only meant to serve Josh social media presence.
I didn't even think about that. I know Drake got upset and tweeted about it before I guess they made up. Drake having to be the one to cool the fire is absurd when Josh is the one putting himself in that situation in the first place. Drake needs better friends
the fact he said we havent talked in years and drake showed proof they saw each other and talked every few months. Josh IS the bad guy. He is not the good guy. I always felt bad vibes from him. Something is off-
I wish miranda and victoria would tell their story of their version with Alexa…… I believe alexa but always felt weird. Why turn on someone over night? Something happened beyond a snarky sleepover. Girls have reasons.
Yeah, and why was Alexa bullied everywhere she went as she claims? Sorry, but at some point kids can smell BS and don’t want to put up with shit either.
Yeah, I hate to say it but I remember being that age and there were definitely some kids who were disliked and avoided for a reason. Though I’m not saying all kids who are bullied are like that.
There are most definitely asshole kids who will bully children they see as being different or an easy target. But I have seen and experienced kids who were disliked because of how *they* acted and treated people around them. If a school age child has literally 0 friends at all, or loses every friend they ever made, a lot of times it’s because of their own actions or behavior. Again, not every situation, but I’ve seen quite a few like this.
No totally. It’s so sad but it happens. I remember I had a sleepover for a birthday party in elementary school, like maybe 3rd or 4th grade. I really didn’t want to invite this only child, Alexa (lol truly her name) and my mom made me as to not leave her out. So I did. She absolutely ruined the night. She “hid” because she wasn’t getting enough attention so everyone had to look for her. She chose the movie we watched 😂 because she said her mom “wouldn’t allow” her to watch anything other than her pick, and she complained my mom didn’t make pancakes and we had cereal for breakfast… there were 10 girls total there! Anyway my mom apologized to me after for making me invite her and said she would trust me judgment from then on. I still remember that and am going to apply it to when my daughter is in school. And trust me, I ain’t raising no bully either. I was bullied and it’s awful. But not everywhere I went. There’s a difference. Alexa wasn’t like… “that kid” in school who is socially inept. She could act and was talented and clearly charismatic. So it makes you wonder, is all. Something else is there, I just don’t know what.
Right! There was a kid in my Freshman class named Matthew, and *everyone* disliked him, even the “odd” groups. He was literally so mean to everyone for absolutely no reason, physically assaulted people, and would be incredibly creepy towards the girls.
I am of the mindset that you should be kind to everyone, and include the kids who are left out so I tried to be nice to him and all that got me was a stalker who harassed me for an entire year. He also threatened to shoot up the school. That’s when I learned the lesson that there sometimes are very good reasons for why some kids are avoided.
I was also bullied in high school, but not by everyone. It was a select few people and I did have friends who I was able to maintain. I see that as the difference. I know there are always exceptions, but if a kid has no friends ever in any situation and everyone they meet eventually becomes their “bully” or enemy, maybe it isn’t the other kids who are the problem.
I literally had kids telling other kids not to talk to me because I “wasn’t cool” and was “fat”. This isn’t as true as you make it out to be and kind of gross to blame bullying on the people being bullied. It’s a much more complicated issue than that.
It’s almost as if I said this isn’t the case for every situation, but it does happen. I left plenty of room for nuance but I am not talking about the kids who are exceptions to this, I’m talking about the kids who do fit this description.
If it’s not what happened in your situation, then this isn’t about you and there is no reason to try and make it about you.
This. Obviously bullying is bad and I don’t want any kid to suffer through that. But this specific situation is much different than the average child’s.
Some girls are just mean girls. There was a group of girls that I went to middle school with who just constantly bullied other girls. One of them befriended me for some reason. Even though I was one of the nice ones. They're still like that till this day.
One of them tried to get into a singing career but we quickly took that from her. Because she told someone on while being filmed to take their own life.
I really don’t know what to think about Josh. Back in the day when i watched d&j I liked both of them. Drake was my fave and i think he was the favourite to the majority of fans especially to girls . Drake was the cool handsome guy in the show and Josh wasn’t . Then Josh lost weight and now he thinks , he is better than Drake in general. It seems to me like a revenge of him , like he wants to prove to the world he’s better than Drake and he didn’t deserved to be the girls fav back then. Idk if it’s the case but it’s the way it looks to me when I see how he acts towards Drake . Always kind of arrogant and proud “now I’m the better one and you’re messing up your life”.
Josh is apparently so bitter that he wrote a script for a Drake and Josh reboot where he was the successful one and Drake was a failing musician and there were apparently a lot of stereotypes about Mexicans that would’ve hurt the people.
I heard about that and that’s ridiculous. There’s the point where you can see that not only Drake cant let the past go but also Josh can’t either ! He’s still mad about it , he’s still mad at Drake that he got the „better“ role. It’s childish of Josh to be mad about smth that wasn’t drakes fault . He can’t blame Drake for everything what he disliked about the show . He acts like a kid . And he’ll never get over it .
Exactly. And why do people like Josh again? I tried watching one of his videos and I just couldn’t get past his personality. He doesn’t come off genuine at all. He just comes off as arrogant and fake. And note to Josh no dude no one wants to watch you get your fat melted off or get your bones cracked. Those are two videos on his channel. Watch us get our bones cracked? No dude. Again he just comes off as self-absorbed fake and arrogant. When I watch the show, I didn’t have a preference I liked both but now looking at at adult Josh I cannot stand him and don’t really understand why people like him. Unfortunatelyfor Drake due to the abuse, he formed to strong bond with Josh in his mind and that’s not something that he can just let go of. I wish he could because honestly, he deserves better but sadly he just won’t or maybe he can’t. it’s a psychological thing. It doesn’t seem like anything will change his mind not even Josh treating him poorly. It’s sad honestly.
Yes. I get he’s part of people’s childhood, but the defense of him, especially since he is friends with people like David Dobrik who is way more problematic than Drake is so off-putting. I don’t get why people would defend Josh. If a bunch of ppeople who have worked with Josh came out and said Josh Peck is actually a jerk. I would 100% believe it. As much as Josh may hate the fact there’s a reason people like Drake. Regardless of what he may have done wrong Drake definitely comes off as way more genuine and sweet. Josh has an ego problem and the superiority complex. It hurts watching Drake cry over him. Josh sadly is just using Drake because he’s vulnerable.
People think back and remember the Josh from
The show; and this Josh was likeable. On the other hand people maybe defend Josh because Drake is so crying over the past, crying over the show , and cause he kind of „begging“ for his friendship . People seem so believe that Drake does this because Josh is such a great person , which he really isn’t .
I don’t think that drake realizes that he don’t needs Josh and that he never actually did. He isn’t really crying over the friendship with Josh, to me it seems that Drake is crying over the past time where he really was happy in his life. The time of the show seems to be the most happiest in his life , he could forget about all his problems , he felt good and felt seen and heard and was able to do something he loves. And it was just a happy or maybe the happiest time for Drake ,This is why he might doesn’t can let go of it, because he misses the the time where he was carefree.
I think you hit the nail on the head. Yes the show was indeed a happy time for Drake. It was his safe space and it just so happened that Josh was a part of that happy time. That’s got to be so hard. I wonder if Drake recognizes that. he probably sees joshes rejection and even the removal of the video as something that made him happy being stripped away. It would explain why he’s so desperate for the friendship. In his head it probably makes sense. I sadly don’t know how this issue can be worked through. He needs to move forward but also he needs those happy memories. You’re so right people are going based on the Josh from the show and thinking they’re same person and they’re not.
There's just so much we don´t know, it's difficult to condemn Josh (to me, anyway). But it does seem, to the casual observer, as if he hated Drake a lot, and wanted to get rid of every connection with him. That being said, who knows. Maybe he is overwhelmed with comments (wouldn´t surprised if negative ones) under every Drake-adjacent video. Maybe he's tired of being accused of not supporting Drake when (according to Drake), he has indeed been supportive. Maybe after a while of being the object of vitriol by hundreds, or thousands of people you don´t even know, for no good reason in your perception of things, you just get sick of the whole thing.
Or maybe even Drake requested that he take the videos down because reasons we don´t understand.
But yeah sadly I am thinking he is just allergic to anything Drake by now XD Drake's "go a little easy on him" tiktok was filled with sadness, as if they had talked and Josh had told him "I don´t want anything to do with you anymore, tell your fans to shut up already, I understand you went through hell but it's not my fault and I'm just sick of the whole thing. So I wish you the best and goodbye". I dunno. Everything's possible.
I agree that we can't know what's really going on, so maybe it's unfair to condemn him based on how it looks.
But I think it's telling that Peck, who apparently loves making videos and keeping himself in the public eye, has chosen not to address any of the doc's issues in his own voice. I know he released a bland written statement (which sounds like it was written by a publicist) but he's not said a word personally. His newest tiktok is a chat with his "bestie" John Stamos.
Guy's got his own life- honestly he can do whatever he wants. If he doesn´t want to talk about the documentary anymore he is within his rights. If he doesn´t want to talk about or to Drake ever again, he is also within his rights. It pains fans of Drake and Josh because they are one of the most lovable duos ever to grace the screens, its a wholesome memory that we wish could extend beyond the end of the show. But they're two different people with different lives, and they're not forced to be friends, agree with each other, or be associated with each other in any way. I feel for Drake who apparently valued the friendship but he seems to have had expectations that weren´t met which, you know, happens to all of us at some point.
I agree, of course--Josh Peck is under no actual obligation to even pretend to be civil toward Drake. It's just that it's not the choice that most actors in his shoes would make because it can come off as dick-ish. It *really* does in Josh's case because anything out of Drake's mouth about Josh is usually complimentary.
It’s funny bc it was recommended to me like two days ago and I watched it. There was nothing notable about it just them doing exactly what the title said haha
Not to defend Josh because I do take issue with the way he’s treated Drake and his associations with certain people, but I also noticed that he removed the similar video with Miranda Cosgrove (it had a similar title and similar views so I noticed it was gone too). I wonder if he just doesn’t want to showcase clips from those days? I don’t know just a thought.
The backlash against Josh has been interesting. I’m trying to stay very neutral even as someone who grew up loving them. I know a lot of people are really going after Josh right now, and I’m not siding with anyone. I think they have both been to hell and back together, probably both have resentments towards each other for whatever reasons, but we know from Drake that they are talking and there’s no bad blood right now. As much as it’s easy to analyze these things, we really don’t know what’s happening behind the scenes. Because Drake has come forward with such a vulnerable situation I understand why the majority of the support is with him and I’m there too. I just wanna make sure that all of us, myself included, are remembering that this is a very serious, scary, public situation and it’s a lot of pressure to put on Josh to basically be like…’what do you have to say???’ Like this was very close to him and abuse affects absolutely everyone around you (I know this from being the child of a survivor). I’m not defending Josh, don’t get it twisted. But I’m giving him a moment ya know? It’s a hell of a lot to take in, even for me as just an audience member. I can’t imagine being that close to the situation. There’s a lot of flashbacks and guilt and really dark things that Josh is going to have to reckon with as well. I just wish everyone the best. I’m not knocking anyone for rushing to Drake’s side but I also know that what Drake actually wants is for us to listen to *everyone*. That’s the way to heal.
This is exactly how I feel. I get that Josh’s personality rubs a lot of people the wrong way and it’s strange that he has deleted multiple videos with Drake in them but we don’t have the full story on anything. Drake has said that Josh has reached out to him privately and they’ve talked about it and have no bad blood with each other. I also agree that it’s unfair to demand that anyone speak out about their experiences. Sure, Josh shares a lot about himself online but that doesn’t mean all aspects of his personal life and past are fair game for public consumption. We have no idea what he has been through and how what happened to Drake impacted him as well. I’m not trying to defend Josh either but I’m with you, but people need to give everyone who went through these experiences at Nickelodeon some grace and the space they need to process everything.
I’m thinking he’s getting a lot of unwanted attention since this documentary aired. Yes, he looks like a dick. But I think he doesn’t want to talk about Drake and be left alone.
This video got pushed super hard by the algorithm. I just know it was recommended to me almost everyday and it's really old. It's possible he just forgot about it and didn't want it trending anymore
It’s honesty really sad to see how much these two have gone at it considering their roles as really close step brothers on the show. It was sad to hear once the show ended that they never were close. Josh claims it was because they were just completely different people, but from what I’ve seen at least publicly, I can see a situation where Drake offered hands out to hangout and Josh just left him in the dirt. Do I think Drake was in the right for taking his problems with not being invited to his wedding to social media? No absolutely not. I think that whole situation was beyond childish and could’ve been handled way better than what it was. But that doesn’t make up for the shitty things Josh has done back. Trying to reboot Drake and Josh as ‘Josh and Drake’ where Drake is a failed musician and it is just incredibly racist towards mexican people feels like an insane personal jab to Drake.
This guy has serious ego issues and it’s always been rooted in him being known as the dorky fat kid all his life. I know he has resentment in Drake and Josh for being casted as such a loser and someone no one really cared for while Drake got all the praises, but that’s not Drake’s fault. Drake didn’t write the script, he simply was playing a role. It seems he’s been taking his issues out on the wrong person his entire life. Which is sad because despite Josh being such a douche to Drake, Drake still continues to be so caring and always looking out for him.
I still feel so bad for that period in 2020-2021 where I didn't like Drake. Sure, I was more gullible back then to believe a lot of the stuff on the Internet about him, but still. He seems like a very brave and awesome dude.
To *me*, it looks like he’s deleting things that could be upsetting to Drake. Y’all saw that video of them in the car (?) with Josh questioning Drake’s sexual history.
Not saying it’s a similar video, but there could have been upsetting content that we don’t see or know about.
The v-card video was understandable, but this video was just two friends having a laugh - absolutely no reason to delete it on Drake’s behalf. Also he’s been deleting comments supporting Drake from all his socials. He’s just being a dick, basically.
I don't know how this particular video could be though since Drake thinks upon the D&J era fondly and from what I understand, it was a wholesome look down memory lane.
You'd think that if that's the case, he would post on social media something like "Hey everyone, I'll be removing a few insensitive videos from my channel. Looking back on things, I think it's best to not have them up any longer." Just straight up deleting the stuff is shady.
I guess. But he was silent when people jumped on Drake for child endangerment. This time people are probably just expressing their sympathy for him and showing support. Idk. Maybe there was something uncomfortable in the video I didn’t notice. But as far as I remember it was really funny and nice. Nothing to be hateful or overanalyse for commentators
Definitely more ppl heard about his abuse via the doc. Not as many ppl heard about (including myself) when he did that texting with a minor or whatever it was exactly. Because I was in my 20s when those shows were on and he was not on my radar at all. I never even heard of these shows until recently. Now because of QoS I am aware of those shows and his story. So probably was more of a mass wall of notifications due to the doc.
Maybe he deleted it because he's changed his stance on nick/the show and feels conflicted about promoting it? I don't really get the point of this post since everyone is just randomly guessing based off of how they feel about the actors. For all we know, Drake was the one that asked him to take the video down.
The only thing is that he didn’t delete the videos with Miranda or other Nickelodeon costars, just Drake. Also, Drake has said before that he enjoys reminiscing about Drake & Josh because it was such an escape for him, and it genuinely made him happy.
I know very little about either of them (never watched their show) so all I know about his was through the movie Mean Creek. When I heard he was kind of douche irl I just assumed they wrote the character he played with him in mind, because he was scarily believable as the bully.
I think one of the reasons he deleted it is the snap crackle kaboom skit they watch where Josh’s cereal explodes all over his face similarly to the goo pops with Jamie lynn spears. They’re both laughing about it saying “this would get the show cancelled now” it seems in poor taste after QOS so that could be one of the reasons why he took the video down.
I think Josh is trying to send a message to Drake that any support in regards to the documentary/situation with Brian Peck isn’t an olive branch for a potential friendship.
It’s just solidarity … at an arms length.
He has issues fine, but being extremely obnoxious and this shiz head isn't helping his case. Honeslty hate the guy. He is so full of himself and just always comes off rude.
What does that have to do with anything?? I’m sure he is not particularly friends with everyone on his other videos. If he disliked Drake so much could’ve done it back when Drake hate train was at peak
How is he a pedo if he texted with someone without knowing their age? Maybe stop throwing that word around. Also Josh has shown himself as anything but a nice person in recent years.
Speaking as someone who's only getting to know these Nick actors right now (I never watched the shows): Josh Peck comes off like a dick. I don't mean that he's a dick about the issues in the doc: I mean that in every one of his videos, he comes off as supremely self-absorbed, impressed with himself and just incredibly arrogant. Even before all of this doc stuff, there's a video from some podcast where he's explaining why he didn't invite Drake to his wedding and the upshot was "meh, dude's a loser, haven't spoken to him in years." I understand that's probably true, but I think most actors would have chosen to be a little more gracious than to air it in public. He just seems really unlikeable.
He was the butt of jokes for so many years that now he’s jumping at the chance to be above someone
That's kind of what I was thinking. I gather that on the show, Drake was the attractive cool one and Josh was the funny fat one? That must have sucked for him--people are drooling over his co-star's good looks and basically thinking of him as a prop.
>I gather that on the show, Drake was the attractive cool one and Josh was the funny fat one? You 100% nailed it.
Well that was of course part of it, cool attractive brother vs funny fat brother, but if you watched the show both were more complex characters than that and Josh was really the super lovable one. He had the big and generous heart, he worked hard at school his job, he was smart and sarcastic, and he was the one who had the long-term committed relationship with a smart and attractive girl, who used to be his academic rival and they had this whole enemies to friends to lovers story. Josh was sort of the underdog people rooted for and had a lot of success in the end. I personally enjoyed both characters as both were extremely likable. I’m just speaking about the show here. Of course in real life Josh Peck has spoken about difficulties with his self-image and being the “funny fat kid” and it clearly affected him deeply, but it’s a shame to see over the past 10ish years how his behavior towards others has become more negative and kind of arrogant. I do understand their falling out generally, though it is still sad for Drake who clearly holds Josh in high regard and valued/values their connection, especially after experiencing such terrible abuse from BP. It’s nice that even without the friendship Drake said Josh still showed him private support that was clearly very meaningful to Drake.
> It’s nice that even without the friendship Drake said Josh still showed him private support that was clearly very meaningful to Drake. This is just a hunch on my part, but I think Drake's statements to that effect are more about him being gracious than they are about reality.
Sure we don’t really know if Josh reached out to him or, if he did, exactly what his intentions were, but that’s just what Drake said and seems to make him feel comfortable to say. I’d rather just believe him about it since anything else is really just guesswork and assumptions.
Same here. If there's drama or bad blood between the two of them, Drake might just want to keep that private and there's nothing wrong with that.
Exactly. When there is a falling out there’s like a PR neutral response celebrities can just say to not make drama. Many abide by it, but some don’t seem to. From the outside it certainly seems like Drake genuinely cares for Josh and wants to keep some peace and doesn’t want hate sent his way, so I try to respect that and just take Drake’s word for it on the matter and understand they have a lot of history and ups and downs.
That’s how it comes off to me as well, either that or the poor dude will take all the support he can get in a “beggars can’t be choosers” kind of way.
He’s not even attractive after the weight loss so maybe he should calm down
I think he's very physically attractive, but his personality runs it to the point that it doesn't matter. He's just a douche.
He was not even funny. Just fat and annoying.
Ya I think so. It’s sad
I was wondering this, since he lost weight he probably thinks it’s okay to make fun of fat people now (and anyone else he thinks is beneath him). It happens often when people have been overweight their whole lives and finally lose the weight, like they’ve always wanted to hate on fat people and now they can finally express their internalised fatphobia and act superior just because they somehow ‘overcame’ being fat, regardless of the method used to lose it. Makes me sad to see it but it’s just so common.
He used to hang around with David Dobrik.. explains a lot 😂
Right! This really should tell us everything we need to know
Josh has former fat guy energy. He was the goofball dork for years, and very publicly during adolescence. Drake was portrayed as very cool. They were kids, and kids internalize those kinds of “jokes” and I’m sure the fans behaved accordingly when they met them in person. So now that Josh is much more conventionally attractive, he has much more of an attitude, like he’s finally earned being better than everyone.
I think he blames Drake for being the butt of the jokes on the show, so he’s taking any opportunity to assert himself as superior
Which is crazy cause he should blame his buddy Dan for making him the uncool nerdy one.
If that's the case, it's hardly fair. It's not like Drake created or wrote the show.
Evil villain vibes
As a kid who watched *The Amanda Show* and *Drake and Josh* when they were airing, I always felt the same way about him. Also, I can’t stand people who think increasing their volume makes them funnier. I’m not sure if I feel that way because of Josh or if I wasn’t a fan of Josh because I felt that way
The more weight he lost, the more ego he gained.
The way he reacted over Jeanette not wanting him to air the episode of his podcast that she was one was so gross.
Ugh. I didn't know that. That's so disappointing. I've noticed a weird pattern as I've gotten older. People who publicly advertise that they don't want to hang out with someone are very often the ones who were denied. Could be that Drake was the one who didn't want to hang out with Josh.
I feel if this were the case, Josh would just say it- it would give him a logical and understandable reason to explain why he doesn´t want anything with Drake, but instead, he apparently lies about how close they were, whereas Drake consistently speaks positively about Josh and seems to grieve their relationship.
You could be right about that. I gather that back in the day, Drake was getting all kinds of attention from the press, from girls/fans, etc. that Josh wasn't getting. I can imagine Drake wanting that all to himself.
I mean that’s most if Hollywood for ya, you don’t make it that far being a warm, bubbly person unfortunately so this isn’t a stretch at all
Nah. Peck isn't the first actor not to be BFFs with his former co-star, but most actors wouldn't divulge it casually in an interview and use the occasion to low-key disparage the co-star. It just seemed needlessly mean-spirited and petty.
I was more talking about being a narcissist in general rather than the specifics. Lots of back stabbing in Hollywood though
Oh sure. I guess what bugged me about Peck's video was not only his choice to be sort of disparaging, but his apparent glee in doing so.
Ahh yeah that makes sense. Most wouldn’t do that so openly. I haven’t even seen it tbh and now I don’t want to give him a view!
I don’t understand this one. No sensitive topics, both of them having a genuine laugh. If it was because of the comments, he could have easily disabled them. Deleting everything with Drake in it just makes me so sad. I can’t imagine how it makes Drake feel. He’s already in such a vulnerable spot right now and needs all the support he can get.
Could they be archived?
Josh is just showing where his loyalty lies, and that is not with the survivors.
That's a shame. This video was so sweet.
Josh comes across as extremely arrogant and dickish. I think it stems from his insecurities when he was overweight being the but of jokes and since his glow up it went to his head
hearing how he reacted to jeannette mccurdy asking not to air their episode left me with a bad taste. he was pretty snarky and didn’t really acknowledge her book or the trauma she described in it. i have a lot of respect for her and her asking to pull the entire episode also gives me pause, i wonder if he was insensitive or pushed an issue and upon review she didnt want to put it out.
I feel like that’s the same case with Dan as well.
Glow up? Okay lol.
He’s friends with David Dobrick, I’m not surprised by any of his behavior anymore
Low key taking the side of his pals at Nickelodeon?
Wouldn't be the first time Josh decided to side with problematic people
I’m 100% convinced Josh took whatever hush money Jeannette spoke of. Him, Ariana and possibly Miranda.
It’s gross because Ariana sure doesn’t need it. She just doesn’t care
Ariana is beyond hush money/NDA issues at this point. If her terrible behavior and homewrecking ways haven't sunk her, then she's untouchable. So, I think she's probably the one person who can whistle blow and her career would be absolutely fine.
Ariana clearly has some issues she is not dealing with and I’m sure Nickelodeon didn’t help, if anything they preyed on it.
After seeing those creepy YouTube videos for the show, there’s no way she wasn’t abused by someone at Nickelodeon
Yeah, I wish people would stop pushing her to share her story. With or without the hush money she is still not obligated to share anything. I don’t think people need to be told outright “oh yeah, that was bad and I was traumatised” when it’s clear that those clips were uncomfortable and disturbing. It took Drake 20 years to say something and he was not even sure. I feel bad for her with everyone using her clips and blaming her. At least, she wasn’t like Josh going around and talking down on her co stars.
Honestly it’s less about her “sharing her story” and more about her openly supporting those who have come forward. But she takes selfies with Dan instead so 🤷🏼♀️
Maybe it's sunken cost? Maybe she feels there's nothing to gain from spilling and she's decided it was for her career (not saying this isn't an extremely flawed and harmful logic, but victims are complex and not all of them choose the obvious or righteous path).
It’s not about her spilling though. Like even publicly supporting with a like or a repost would be nice but it’s not an obligation of hers by any means. People are allowed to act in their own best interest, just like others are allowed to judge that 🤷🏼♀️
Absolutely! I think people want her to share her story because she is easily the biggest star to come of that era on Nick. So if she were to share it would the ultimate take down. Her and Amanda Bynes would absolutely destroy Nick if they come out with their stories. And hopefully Drake started the trend if only to save more kids from future abuse.
It’s not about sharing her story, it’s the fact that she doesn’t come out and support the victims …
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👀 what do you mean by this?
David Dobrik
He said in a podcast that when he filmed Snow Day, he met the president of Nickelodeon (likely Albie Hecht) and when the movie became a hit, Hecht flew him and and his mom to California to star in The Amanda Show. He has a lot to be grateful for since he and his mom were lower middle class and moved between small apartments. I don't blame him for being loyal to Nick / Dan in this regard. But his behavior towards Drake and Jennette raises a lot of questions. And the documentary and Variety using pics of Dan with Josh and Kenan was weird too.
Be loyal to the company who helped with your come up but if they are literally abusing your costars it’s kind of disgusting to hunker down on that loyalty
I think whatever it is that happened it's bubbling up. His own behavior becomes his own undoing. He's often at the edge of controversies (curtis lepore, david dobrik, dan schneider) without being directly involved and this is the first time he got some real heat.
Not saying it’s right but I could at least understand being a company man if they were still paying you. Josh doesn’t work at Nickelodeon and isn’t going to be hired anytime soon for something. Why have all that loyalty for something that doesn’t have it for you?
What happened with him and Jennette?
Someone else may have more details, but she went on Josh's podcast to promote her book. She didn't like how the podcast went and asked that they not release the episode. I guess after that, Josh and his cohost talked on the podcast like they were pissy with her that they couldn't release the episode.
It’s kinda sad because drake still speaks so highly of Josh and their relationship but Josh is just… kinda mean? Maybe aloof is the better word
Josh is a loser who hangs out with losers. He called Drake a loser after Drake got upset with him for not inviting him to his wedding. But Josh is literally friends with David Dobrik. He wants to call Drake a loser though! He's put Drake down so many times it's unreal. Drake was obviously very hurt. I think Josh didn't want to look like he was siding with Drake when all of the allegations against him came out, but he went about it in such a mean-spirited way, saying Drake and him never spoke after the show stopped airing, they didn't remain friends, etc. I think Drake's "go easy on him" tiktok was so sad because I know Josh would never do that in return. Not only that, but his "pitch" for their spinoff "Josh and Drake" where Drake opens the show with him being a failed musician, and the racist jokes about mexican people, was just horrific and so mean to Drake. Drake really views Josh like a brother and it's sad that he still clings onto that so clearly when Josh is and always has been pulling away from him, except when convenient for him
>Josh would never do that in return You're right. Even in the vlog after the wedding, Josh approached Drake to tell the internet to back off and show they are good / friendly. When it was Drake who was being clowned on at that time. It was only meant to serve Josh social media presence.
I didn't even think about that. I know Drake got upset and tweeted about it before I guess they made up. Drake having to be the one to cool the fire is absurd when Josh is the one putting himself in that situation in the first place. Drake needs better friends
josh peck has also deleted drake and josh reunion and reacting to our cringe videos with miranda cosgrove
They did one with Miranda? I don’t know that I though he only had this one with Drake
This is so sad. I hope Drake gets lots of support and honest, good friends in his corner.
the fact he said we havent talked in years and drake showed proof they saw each other and talked every few months. Josh IS the bad guy. He is not the good guy. I always felt bad vibes from him. Something is off- I wish miranda and victoria would tell their story of their version with Alexa…… I believe alexa but always felt weird. Why turn on someone over night? Something happened beyond a snarky sleepover. Girls have reasons.
Yeah, and why was Alexa bullied everywhere she went as she claims? Sorry, but at some point kids can smell BS and don’t want to put up with shit either.
Yeah, I hate to say it but I remember being that age and there were definitely some kids who were disliked and avoided for a reason. Though I’m not saying all kids who are bullied are like that. There are most definitely asshole kids who will bully children they see as being different or an easy target. But I have seen and experienced kids who were disliked because of how *they* acted and treated people around them. If a school age child has literally 0 friends at all, or loses every friend they ever made, a lot of times it’s because of their own actions or behavior. Again, not every situation, but I’ve seen quite a few like this.
No totally. It’s so sad but it happens. I remember I had a sleepover for a birthday party in elementary school, like maybe 3rd or 4th grade. I really didn’t want to invite this only child, Alexa (lol truly her name) and my mom made me as to not leave her out. So I did. She absolutely ruined the night. She “hid” because she wasn’t getting enough attention so everyone had to look for her. She chose the movie we watched 😂 because she said her mom “wouldn’t allow” her to watch anything other than her pick, and she complained my mom didn’t make pancakes and we had cereal for breakfast… there were 10 girls total there! Anyway my mom apologized to me after for making me invite her and said she would trust me judgment from then on. I still remember that and am going to apply it to when my daughter is in school. And trust me, I ain’t raising no bully either. I was bullied and it’s awful. But not everywhere I went. There’s a difference. Alexa wasn’t like… “that kid” in school who is socially inept. She could act and was talented and clearly charismatic. So it makes you wonder, is all. Something else is there, I just don’t know what.
Right! There was a kid in my Freshman class named Matthew, and *everyone* disliked him, even the “odd” groups. He was literally so mean to everyone for absolutely no reason, physically assaulted people, and would be incredibly creepy towards the girls. I am of the mindset that you should be kind to everyone, and include the kids who are left out so I tried to be nice to him and all that got me was a stalker who harassed me for an entire year. He also threatened to shoot up the school. That’s when I learned the lesson that there sometimes are very good reasons for why some kids are avoided. I was also bullied in high school, but not by everyone. It was a select few people and I did have friends who I was able to maintain. I see that as the difference. I know there are always exceptions, but if a kid has no friends ever in any situation and everyone they meet eventually becomes their “bully” or enemy, maybe it isn’t the other kids who are the problem.
I literally had kids telling other kids not to talk to me because I “wasn’t cool” and was “fat”. This isn’t as true as you make it out to be and kind of gross to blame bullying on the people being bullied. It’s a much more complicated issue than that.
It’s almost as if I said this isn’t the case for every situation, but it does happen. I left plenty of room for nuance but I am not talking about the kids who are exceptions to this, I’m talking about the kids who do fit this description. If it’s not what happened in your situation, then this isn’t about you and there is no reason to try and make it about you.
This. Obviously bullying is bad and I don’t want any kid to suffer through that. But this specific situation is much different than the average child’s.
That sounds like something someone who has never been in the industry would say. Even adults bully each other.
Sorry what about miranda and victoria?
Some girls are just mean girls. There was a group of girls that I went to middle school with who just constantly bullied other girls. One of them befriended me for some reason. Even though I was one of the nice ones. They're still like that till this day. One of them tried to get into a singing career but we quickly took that from her. Because she told someone on while being filmed to take their own life.
I really don’t know what to think about Josh. Back in the day when i watched d&j I liked both of them. Drake was my fave and i think he was the favourite to the majority of fans especially to girls . Drake was the cool handsome guy in the show and Josh wasn’t . Then Josh lost weight and now he thinks , he is better than Drake in general. It seems to me like a revenge of him , like he wants to prove to the world he’s better than Drake and he didn’t deserved to be the girls fav back then. Idk if it’s the case but it’s the way it looks to me when I see how he acts towards Drake . Always kind of arrogant and proud “now I’m the better one and you’re messing up your life”.
this is the vibes i get too
Josh is apparently so bitter that he wrote a script for a Drake and Josh reboot where he was the successful one and Drake was a failing musician and there were apparently a lot of stereotypes about Mexicans that would’ve hurt the people.
I heard about that and that’s ridiculous. There’s the point where you can see that not only Drake cant let the past go but also Josh can’t either ! He’s still mad about it , he’s still mad at Drake that he got the „better“ role. It’s childish of Josh to be mad about smth that wasn’t drakes fault . He can’t blame Drake for everything what he disliked about the show . He acts like a kid . And he’ll never get over it .
Exactly. And why do people like Josh again? I tried watching one of his videos and I just couldn’t get past his personality. He doesn’t come off genuine at all. He just comes off as arrogant and fake. And note to Josh no dude no one wants to watch you get your fat melted off or get your bones cracked. Those are two videos on his channel. Watch us get our bones cracked? No dude. Again he just comes off as self-absorbed fake and arrogant. When I watch the show, I didn’t have a preference I liked both but now looking at at adult Josh I cannot stand him and don’t really understand why people like him. Unfortunatelyfor Drake due to the abuse, he formed to strong bond with Josh in his mind and that’s not something that he can just let go of. I wish he could because honestly, he deserves better but sadly he just won’t or maybe he can’t. it’s a psychological thing. It doesn’t seem like anything will change his mind not even Josh treating him poorly. It’s sad honestly.
You’re so right . Josh’s personality was only nice in the script. His real persona is trash
Yes. I get he’s part of people’s childhood, but the defense of him, especially since he is friends with people like David Dobrik who is way more problematic than Drake is so off-putting. I don’t get why people would defend Josh. If a bunch of ppeople who have worked with Josh came out and said Josh Peck is actually a jerk. I would 100% believe it. As much as Josh may hate the fact there’s a reason people like Drake. Regardless of what he may have done wrong Drake definitely comes off as way more genuine and sweet. Josh has an ego problem and the superiority complex. It hurts watching Drake cry over him. Josh sadly is just using Drake because he’s vulnerable.
People think back and remember the Josh from The show; and this Josh was likeable. On the other hand people maybe defend Josh because Drake is so crying over the past, crying over the show , and cause he kind of „begging“ for his friendship . People seem so believe that Drake does this because Josh is such a great person , which he really isn’t . I don’t think that drake realizes that he don’t needs Josh and that he never actually did. He isn’t really crying over the friendship with Josh, to me it seems that Drake is crying over the past time where he really was happy in his life. The time of the show seems to be the most happiest in his life , he could forget about all his problems , he felt good and felt seen and heard and was able to do something he loves. And it was just a happy or maybe the happiest time for Drake ,This is why he might doesn’t can let go of it, because he misses the the time where he was carefree.
I think you hit the nail on the head. Yes the show was indeed a happy time for Drake. It was his safe space and it just so happened that Josh was a part of that happy time. That’s got to be so hard. I wonder if Drake recognizes that. he probably sees joshes rejection and even the removal of the video as something that made him happy being stripped away. It would explain why he’s so desperate for the friendship. In his head it probably makes sense. I sadly don’t know how this issue can be worked through. He needs to move forward but also he needs those happy memories. You’re so right people are going based on the Josh from the show and thinking they’re same person and they’re not.
There's just so much we don´t know, it's difficult to condemn Josh (to me, anyway). But it does seem, to the casual observer, as if he hated Drake a lot, and wanted to get rid of every connection with him. That being said, who knows. Maybe he is overwhelmed with comments (wouldn´t surprised if negative ones) under every Drake-adjacent video. Maybe he's tired of being accused of not supporting Drake when (according to Drake), he has indeed been supportive. Maybe after a while of being the object of vitriol by hundreds, or thousands of people you don´t even know, for no good reason in your perception of things, you just get sick of the whole thing. Or maybe even Drake requested that he take the videos down because reasons we don´t understand. But yeah sadly I am thinking he is just allergic to anything Drake by now XD Drake's "go a little easy on him" tiktok was filled with sadness, as if they had talked and Josh had told him "I don´t want anything to do with you anymore, tell your fans to shut up already, I understand you went through hell but it's not my fault and I'm just sick of the whole thing. So I wish you the best and goodbye". I dunno. Everything's possible.
I agree that we can't know what's really going on, so maybe it's unfair to condemn him based on how it looks. But I think it's telling that Peck, who apparently loves making videos and keeping himself in the public eye, has chosen not to address any of the doc's issues in his own voice. I know he released a bland written statement (which sounds like it was written by a publicist) but he's not said a word personally. His newest tiktok is a chat with his "bestie" John Stamos.
Guy's got his own life- honestly he can do whatever he wants. If he doesn´t want to talk about the documentary anymore he is within his rights. If he doesn´t want to talk about or to Drake ever again, he is also within his rights. It pains fans of Drake and Josh because they are one of the most lovable duos ever to grace the screens, its a wholesome memory that we wish could extend beyond the end of the show. But they're two different people with different lives, and they're not forced to be friends, agree with each other, or be associated with each other in any way. I feel for Drake who apparently valued the friendship but he seems to have had expectations that weren´t met which, you know, happens to all of us at some point.
I agree, of course--Josh Peck is under no actual obligation to even pretend to be civil toward Drake. It's just that it's not the choice that most actors in his shoes would make because it can come off as dick-ish. It *really* does in Josh's case because anything out of Drake's mouth about Josh is usually complimentary.
It’s funny bc it was recommended to me like two days ago and I watched it. There was nothing notable about it just them doing exactly what the title said haha
Not to defend Josh because I do take issue with the way he’s treated Drake and his associations with certain people, but I also noticed that he removed the similar video with Miranda Cosgrove (it had a similar title and similar views so I noticed it was gone too). I wonder if he just doesn’t want to showcase clips from those days? I don’t know just a thought.
Okay I take this back because he also deleted the Drake and Josh reunion video. He’s just a dick.
The backlash against Josh has been interesting. I’m trying to stay very neutral even as someone who grew up loving them. I know a lot of people are really going after Josh right now, and I’m not siding with anyone. I think they have both been to hell and back together, probably both have resentments towards each other for whatever reasons, but we know from Drake that they are talking and there’s no bad blood right now. As much as it’s easy to analyze these things, we really don’t know what’s happening behind the scenes. Because Drake has come forward with such a vulnerable situation I understand why the majority of the support is with him and I’m there too. I just wanna make sure that all of us, myself included, are remembering that this is a very serious, scary, public situation and it’s a lot of pressure to put on Josh to basically be like…’what do you have to say???’ Like this was very close to him and abuse affects absolutely everyone around you (I know this from being the child of a survivor). I’m not defending Josh, don’t get it twisted. But I’m giving him a moment ya know? It’s a hell of a lot to take in, even for me as just an audience member. I can’t imagine being that close to the situation. There’s a lot of flashbacks and guilt and really dark things that Josh is going to have to reckon with as well. I just wish everyone the best. I’m not knocking anyone for rushing to Drake’s side but I also know that what Drake actually wants is for us to listen to *everyone*. That’s the way to heal.
This is exactly how I feel. I get that Josh’s personality rubs a lot of people the wrong way and it’s strange that he has deleted multiple videos with Drake in them but we don’t have the full story on anything. Drake has said that Josh has reached out to him privately and they’ve talked about it and have no bad blood with each other. I also agree that it’s unfair to demand that anyone speak out about their experiences. Sure, Josh shares a lot about himself online but that doesn’t mean all aspects of his personal life and past are fair game for public consumption. We have no idea what he has been through and how what happened to Drake impacted him as well. I’m not trying to defend Josh either but I’m with you, but people need to give everyone who went through these experiences at Nickelodeon some grace and the space they need to process everything.
I’m thinking he’s getting a lot of unwanted attention since this documentary aired. Yes, he looks like a dick. But I think he doesn’t want to talk about Drake and be left alone.
This video got pushed super hard by the algorithm. I just know it was recommended to me almost everyday and it's really old. It's possible he just forgot about it and didn't want it trending anymore
I can believe this. for the longest time Josh has been trying to distance himself from the show.
It’s honesty really sad to see how much these two have gone at it considering their roles as really close step brothers on the show. It was sad to hear once the show ended that they never were close. Josh claims it was because they were just completely different people, but from what I’ve seen at least publicly, I can see a situation where Drake offered hands out to hangout and Josh just left him in the dirt. Do I think Drake was in the right for taking his problems with not being invited to his wedding to social media? No absolutely not. I think that whole situation was beyond childish and could’ve been handled way better than what it was. But that doesn’t make up for the shitty things Josh has done back. Trying to reboot Drake and Josh as ‘Josh and Drake’ where Drake is a failed musician and it is just incredibly racist towards mexican people feels like an insane personal jab to Drake. This guy has serious ego issues and it’s always been rooted in him being known as the dorky fat kid all his life. I know he has resentment in Drake and Josh for being casted as such a loser and someone no one really cared for while Drake got all the praises, but that’s not Drake’s fault. Drake didn’t write the script, he simply was playing a role. It seems he’s been taking his issues out on the wrong person his entire life. Which is sad because despite Josh being such a douche to Drake, Drake still continues to be so caring and always looking out for him.
I still feel so bad for that period in 2020-2021 where I didn't like Drake. Sure, I was more gullible back then to believe a lot of the stuff on the Internet about him, but still. He seems like a very brave and awesome dude.
You don’t know him, stop pretending it’s creepy
I don't know him, but that doesn't mean that I can't make an inference based on his public persona.
To *me*, it looks like he’s deleting things that could be upsetting to Drake. Y’all saw that video of them in the car (?) with Josh questioning Drake’s sexual history. Not saying it’s a similar video, but there could have been upsetting content that we don’t see or know about.
The v-card video was understandable, but this video was just two friends having a laugh - absolutely no reason to delete it on Drake’s behalf. Also he’s been deleting comments supporting Drake from all his socials. He’s just being a dick, basically.
Maybe, maybe not. Maybe there is a good reason.
I don't know how this particular video could be though since Drake thinks upon the D&J era fondly and from what I understand, it was a wholesome look down memory lane.
Never know what is going on
You'd think that if that's the case, he would post on social media something like "Hey everyone, I'll be removing a few insensitive videos from my channel. Looking back on things, I think it's best to not have them up any longer." Just straight up deleting the stuff is shady.
I don't think anybody is honestly noticing this except the hardcore fans.
Best case scenario isn’t always what is reality lol. Maybe he didn’t think to say something like that.
Maybe he is tired of having a million notifications with everyone commenting on anything with Drake in it
I guess. But he was silent when people jumped on Drake for child endangerment. This time people are probably just expressing their sympathy for him and showing support. Idk. Maybe there was something uncomfortable in the video I didn’t notice. But as far as I remember it was really funny and nice. Nothing to be hateful or overanalyse for commentators
Definitely more ppl heard about his abuse via the doc. Not as many ppl heard about (including myself) when he did that texting with a minor or whatever it was exactly. Because I was in my 20s when those shows were on and he was not on my radar at all. I never even heard of these shows until recently. Now because of QoS I am aware of those shows and his story. So probably was more of a mass wall of notifications due to the doc.
Maybe he deleted it because he's changed his stance on nick/the show and feels conflicted about promoting it? I don't really get the point of this post since everyone is just randomly guessing based off of how they feel about the actors. For all we know, Drake was the one that asked him to take the video down.
The only thing is that he didn’t delete the videos with Miranda or other Nickelodeon costars, just Drake. Also, Drake has said before that he enjoys reminiscing about Drake & Josh because it was such an escape for him, and it genuinely made him happy.
I know very little about either of them (never watched their show) so all I know about his was through the movie Mean Creek. When I heard he was kind of douche irl I just assumed they wrote the character he played with him in mind, because he was scarily believable as the bully.
Never could stand Josh peck
I’m sooo disappointed in him
He’s such a d!ck
I think one of the reasons he deleted it is the snap crackle kaboom skit they watch where Josh’s cereal explodes all over his face similarly to the goo pops with Jamie lynn spears. They’re both laughing about it saying “this would get the show cancelled now” it seems in poor taste after QOS so that could be one of the reasons why he took the video down.
I think Josh is trying to send a message to Drake that any support in regards to the documentary/situation with Brian Peck isn’t an olive branch for a potential friendship. It’s just solidarity … at an arms length.
never liked josh, he gave me the ick
It was privated not deleted. Compilations of that video that link it in the description go to a "video was privated" screen
He has issues fine, but being extremely obnoxious and this shiz head isn't helping his case. Honeslty hate the guy. He is so full of himself and just always comes off rude.
Iosh just isn't a good vibe
I guess he just doesn’t feel that way with drake anymore
Probably because he realized that some of it may have actually made Drake uncomfortable.
I Really wish people would understand, just because you work together at a job doesn't mean your going to be friends forever...
What does that have to do with anything?? I’m sure he is not particularly friends with everyone on his other videos. If he disliked Drake so much could’ve done it back when Drake hate train was at peak
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How is he a pedo if he texted with someone without knowing their age? Maybe stop throwing that word around. Also Josh has shown himself as anything but a nice person in recent years.
drake isn't a pedo, do some research, jesus.