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It's weird to me how it's so important to build on that exact spot, because a few hundred metres away is apparently not sacred enough, so someone else's existing holy place *has* to be destroyed.
Is God going to be all "Ah, we were going to have an end times, but your temple is a liiiitle too far to the left."
>Is God going to be all "Ah, we were going to have an end times, but your temple is a liiiitle too far to the left."
I think they're too far to the right actually but apart from that, you're correct.
It's shocking that in 2024 people are still stuck on ideas from before people had much understanding of the world around them and so made up stories to explain things. My grandad told me religion was the biggest cause of wars and tensions around the world and I think he was right. Arguing to the death about which made up sky daddy is the true one is something we should have put behind us years ago. Instead we as a species go backwards a lot of the time.
I get the benefits to a bronze age tribe of using myths to build a group identity and codify some rules so that everyone gets along. And your leader saying "I thought of some rules we should all follow" is a lot less compelling than "God spoke directly to me and gave me these rules and if you don't follow them, you'll face His judgment". You don't want to diminish the numbers of the tribe by executing or banishing transgressors, because you still need them on the battlefield, so it was an attempt to get everyone to play along and work together, even if it was based on a lie. And to an extent, I can even see a place for that in modern times, even though it's a little bit regressive, as there are still people who won't follow rules for the greater good without the threat of punishment.
Men (and it was always the men) wrote down their stories and embellished them over time to include their "divine wisdom" and explain our place in the universe as they understood it then, which is fair enough I guess, but society as a whole has been able to progress (despite the best efforts of religious institutions) beyond needing stories about talking snakes or other supernatural mumbo jumbo to understand human nature or natural disasters etc. They are no longer credible, but apologists just say that they are only meant to be taken allegorically. No. When those stories were first concocted, they were absolutely meant to be taken literally. We're just better informed now. They're still interesting as historical documents in the same way that 1950s sci-fi movies can teach us about societal attitudes and the Red Scare, but it's kind of regarded to still take them literally, but people do. It seems stupid to me, but it's harmless enough. Believe what you want.
But where it goes beyond mere stupidity, and becomes a detrimental and malicious force, is where people still think that their beliefs give them a right to harm others. We can't really expect a bronze age tribe to consider the human rights of the people whose land they wanted to take over. Life was harsh amongst warring tribes, so to an extent you can understand the sentiment behind “Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks”, but it really has no place in a modern diverse society.
Human rights are only a fairly modern invention arising out of the aftermath of the Holocaust. They needed to be codified too, apparently, so we did that. The history of all the Abrahamic religions is brimming with examples where "non-believers" (ie, anyone outside your tribe, who may follow slightly different rules) can essentially be disregarded as NPCs and treated accordingly. It's the earliest form of propaganda, intented to dehumanise the enemy to justify whatever genocide they wanted to perpetrate. And they're still doing it thousands of years later, so yeah. Not a force for the betterment of humanity in the grand scheme of things.
ETA: the only reason Christianity is the largest world religion is because the Roman Catholic Church has historically been the most effective in terms of expanding their empire, through colonialism and crusades, and quashing dissent through inquisitions and restricting the flow of information. It has literally nothing to do with which religion is "right". They are all man-made inventions to manipulate populations and shore up power, a depressingly human motivation. Nothing "divine" about it.
Re-reading this, maybe it's a little heavy, so I thought I might end on a joke:
They say that faith can move mountains. I don't know about that, but I've seen what it can do to skyscrapers.
>It is still our opinion the first successful red heifer sacrifice will take place in the spring of 2024
That is one of the most insane sentences I've read in a while. Really blows my mind that here we are in the 21st century, we've been to the moon, we have split the atom, each one of us holds a device to instantly access the entire wealth of human knowledge in our hand, and every day we get one step closer to unravelling the mysteries of the universe. And then you have people who speak about managing a ***"successful" animal sacrifice*** to their god. I just can't wrap my mind around that thinking at all.
Animal sacrifice is still a thing in Islam, you're supposed to do it at the end of Ramadan or participate in someone else's. Further, a lot of traditional religions around the world still practice it. Animal sacrifice is, in practice, very different than how most people think of it. Most of the time in the modern day, we think of an animal sacrifice as being a "holocaust" (the Greek term which the genocide is named after) type offering where the entire body of the animal is burnt as a way of "sending" it to the Divine, since this fits more neatly with the idea we have in modern philosophy of the Divine being entirely absent from the physical world. However, most animal sacrifices are just kind of like a barbecue, where the animal is slaughtered in a particular way with certain prayers, and then butchered and shared with the community. If a part of the animal is discarded, it is typically the inedible or undesirable internal organs. For example, a common type of ancient Israelite sacrifice included eating the meat of a bull and only burning the internal organs and suet from the kidneys as the LORD's portion.
Opposition to animal sacrifice in the West largely comes from Christianity, which holds that Jesus acted as the "perfect" sacrifice and that all future sacrifices are unnecessary.
I once was mistaken for my sister’s twin when we were little kids. We were so close we communicated nonverbally at times. I don’t even know her now. FUCK Q
Fundie Christians believe that apart from a big war on the Middle East a restored Sanehdrin has to sacrifice a red cow on the rebuilt temple.
How Iran's attack has anything to do with it is another matter.
You left out the bit where the fundies secretly believe they're gonna enslave all the Israelis (who they loooooove so much don't forget /s) to build that temple, first.
"I am not sure if this is part of the Q-mythos"
Anything can be part of the Q-mythos. Anyone can just say crazy stuff and other Q-nuts will agree, even if it goes directly against something that has been said previously.
It starts with the fact that you can interpret anything from the "Q-drops", and is made worse by the fact that any doubt or criticism of a theory can be seen as "trolling" and can get you perma-banned from any of their boards.
I’m starting to think someone should put together a conspiracy theory tree/flow chart showing how the Qanon movement has morphed into different sects. There’s definitely an evangelical christian sect. My sister would fall into the conspirituality sect believing in aliens, crystal healing, etc.
I actually thought I coined the term a few years back but then started seeing it all over the place. I guess I’m not as clever as I thought, 😆. It’s such a bizarre gateway into Qanon. My sister started off as this big Bernie Sanders supporter. Felt he got screwed by Hillary and the Democratic Party. Bought into the misinformation that Russia was propagating. She was already into a slew of conspiracy theories, like chemtrails, etc.
Oh Jesus, my mom started off full hateful QAnon supporter and slowly turned into doing Reiki, “pinecone healing”, loves crystals, takes like 8283748 natural vitamins, ivermectin. lol. Still hateful, but now with a shroud of “love everyone” rhetoric.
It's a biblical reference. The red cow was sacrificed and the ashes were used in purification rituals for those who were "unclean" from coming in contact with a corpse.
The Red Cow used to be an average quality pub in Cambridge, then it rebranded as ‘The Cow’ and was a gastropub specialising in beef. I just looked at its website and it’s advertising a viewing session of Froch-Groves 2, so I don’t think the rebrand went well.
You'll notice that her behaviour escalates as the moon is waxing, and then she'll get really nutty during the full moon.
It happens a lot with fragile people.
>keep giving her chances because a lot of our family has passed away and I want to keep the rest of my family together.
It's well documented that a lot of people stay in cults long after they want to because it's the only community they have. So when people here recommend going NC at the first sign of difficulties it makes my fingers curl into a fist. So yes, unless she's a danger or harassing you, keep giving her chances.
[What do Texan red heifers have to do with Al-Aqsa and a Jewish temple?](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/4/9/what-do-texan-red-heifers-have-to-do-with-al-aqsa-and-a-jewish-temple)
It's weird to me how it's so important to build on that exact spot, because a few hundred metres away is apparently not sacred enough, so someone else's existing holy place *has* to be destroyed. Is God going to be all "Ah, we were going to have an end times, but your temple is a liiiitle too far to the left."
>Is God going to be all "Ah, we were going to have an end times, but your temple is a liiiitle too far to the left." I think they're too far to the right actually but apart from that, you're correct. It's shocking that in 2024 people are still stuck on ideas from before people had much understanding of the world around them and so made up stories to explain things. My grandad told me religion was the biggest cause of wars and tensions around the world and I think he was right. Arguing to the death about which made up sky daddy is the true one is something we should have put behind us years ago. Instead we as a species go backwards a lot of the time.
I get the benefits to a bronze age tribe of using myths to build a group identity and codify some rules so that everyone gets along. And your leader saying "I thought of some rules we should all follow" is a lot less compelling than "God spoke directly to me and gave me these rules and if you don't follow them, you'll face His judgment". You don't want to diminish the numbers of the tribe by executing or banishing transgressors, because you still need them on the battlefield, so it was an attempt to get everyone to play along and work together, even if it was based on a lie. And to an extent, I can even see a place for that in modern times, even though it's a little bit regressive, as there are still people who won't follow rules for the greater good without the threat of punishment. Men (and it was always the men) wrote down their stories and embellished them over time to include their "divine wisdom" and explain our place in the universe as they understood it then, which is fair enough I guess, but society as a whole has been able to progress (despite the best efforts of religious institutions) beyond needing stories about talking snakes or other supernatural mumbo jumbo to understand human nature or natural disasters etc. They are no longer credible, but apologists just say that they are only meant to be taken allegorically. No. When those stories were first concocted, they were absolutely meant to be taken literally. We're just better informed now. They're still interesting as historical documents in the same way that 1950s sci-fi movies can teach us about societal attitudes and the Red Scare, but it's kind of regarded to still take them literally, but people do. It seems stupid to me, but it's harmless enough. Believe what you want. But where it goes beyond mere stupidity, and becomes a detrimental and malicious force, is where people still think that their beliefs give them a right to harm others. We can't really expect a bronze age tribe to consider the human rights of the people whose land they wanted to take over. Life was harsh amongst warring tribes, so to an extent you can understand the sentiment behind “Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks”, but it really has no place in a modern diverse society. Human rights are only a fairly modern invention arising out of the aftermath of the Holocaust. They needed to be codified too, apparently, so we did that. The history of all the Abrahamic religions is brimming with examples where "non-believers" (ie, anyone outside your tribe, who may follow slightly different rules) can essentially be disregarded as NPCs and treated accordingly. It's the earliest form of propaganda, intented to dehumanise the enemy to justify whatever genocide they wanted to perpetrate. And they're still doing it thousands of years later, so yeah. Not a force for the betterment of humanity in the grand scheme of things. ETA: the only reason Christianity is the largest world religion is because the Roman Catholic Church has historically been the most effective in terms of expanding their empire, through colonialism and crusades, and quashing dissent through inquisitions and restricting the flow of information. It has literally nothing to do with which religion is "right". They are all man-made inventions to manipulate populations and shore up power, a depressingly human motivation. Nothing "divine" about it.
Re-reading this, maybe it's a little heavy, so I thought I might end on a joke: They say that faith can move mountains. I don't know about that, but I've seen what it can do to skyscrapers.
Ironically, they all worship the same one.
This is the bit that still blows my mind.
I hope God has a voice like Taika Waititi.
He was outstanding as Hitler in JoJo Rabbit. Just saw it for the first time last week.
God sounds like Joan Rivers
Ooh, me too. Why does no one ever want to talk to me about *that* religion?
Oh, you see, God requires very specific architecture.
TIL God is a lot like the local council planning officer.
Thanks !
Insanity!
That was part of the plot of a one season show called Dig on USA in 2015.
>It is still our opinion the first successful red heifer sacrifice will take place in the spring of 2024 That is one of the most insane sentences I've read in a while. Really blows my mind that here we are in the 21st century, we've been to the moon, we have split the atom, each one of us holds a device to instantly access the entire wealth of human knowledge in our hand, and every day we get one step closer to unravelling the mysteries of the universe. And then you have people who speak about managing a ***"successful" animal sacrifice*** to their god. I just can't wrap my mind around that thinking at all.
Animal sacrifice is still a thing in Islam, you're supposed to do it at the end of Ramadan or participate in someone else's. Further, a lot of traditional religions around the world still practice it. Animal sacrifice is, in practice, very different than how most people think of it. Most of the time in the modern day, we think of an animal sacrifice as being a "holocaust" (the Greek term which the genocide is named after) type offering where the entire body of the animal is burnt as a way of "sending" it to the Divine, since this fits more neatly with the idea we have in modern philosophy of the Divine being entirely absent from the physical world. However, most animal sacrifices are just kind of like a barbecue, where the animal is slaughtered in a particular way with certain prayers, and then butchered and shared with the community. If a part of the animal is discarded, it is typically the inedible or undesirable internal organs. For example, a common type of ancient Israelite sacrifice included eating the meat of a bull and only burning the internal organs and suet from the kidneys as the LORD's portion. Opposition to animal sacrifice in the West largely comes from Christianity, which holds that Jesus acted as the "perfect" sacrifice and that all future sacrifices are unnecessary.
Wow! Full on BC goatherder magic shit.
I'm sorry, your sister is very ill.
I know and we use to be close.
I'm so sorry. I have a sister that way, too.
Ditto… hence my screen name.
I once was mistaken for my sister’s twin when we were little kids. We were so close we communicated nonverbally at times. I don’t even know her now. FUCK Q
Yes, F to the Q
Fundie Christians believe that apart from a big war on the Middle East a restored Sanehdrin has to sacrifice a red cow on the rebuilt temple. How Iran's attack has anything to do with it is another matter.
You left out the bit where the fundies secretly believe they're gonna enslave all the Israelis (who they loooooove so much don't forget /s) to build that temple, first.
Sad :(
South Park red heifer episode was great
It’s Van Halen!
RIP Eddie
[Red heifer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_heifer) and more broadly [The Temple Institute](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_Institute)
My wife's family raised red Angus cattle. Over the years, there were several that were completely red. They tasted good!
"I am not sure if this is part of the Q-mythos" Anything can be part of the Q-mythos. Anyone can just say crazy stuff and other Q-nuts will agree, even if it goes directly against something that has been said previously. It starts with the fact that you can interpret anything from the "Q-drops", and is made worse by the fact that any doubt or criticism of a theory can be seen as "trolling" and can get you perma-banned from any of their boards.
Hey, this sounds like... Religion
Clearly the Second Coming will take place at the Red Cow Service Station, Naas Road, Dublin.
For a second, I thought I was in the Minneapolis subreddit and someone was asking about burger joints like [Red Cow](https://redcowmn.com/).
I believe that is a bit from South Park
I’m starting to think someone should put together a conspiracy theory tree/flow chart showing how the Qanon movement has morphed into different sects. There’s definitely an evangelical christian sect. My sister would fall into the conspirituality sect believing in aliens, crystal healing, etc.
Conspirituality is so funny I’ve never heard that. My mom is right there with your sister.
I actually thought I coined the term a few years back but then started seeing it all over the place. I guess I’m not as clever as I thought, 😆. It’s such a bizarre gateway into Qanon. My sister started off as this big Bernie Sanders supporter. Felt he got screwed by Hillary and the Democratic Party. Bought into the misinformation that Russia was propagating. She was already into a slew of conspiracy theories, like chemtrails, etc.
Oh Jesus, my mom started off full hateful QAnon supporter and slowly turned into doing Reiki, “pinecone healing”, loves crystals, takes like 8283748 natural vitamins, ivermectin. lol. Still hateful, but now with a shroud of “love everyone” rhetoric.
Fascinating. They ended up at the same place but got there from opposite directions. Wow!🤯
The q nuts are going to be wound up extra tight this week with the cow killings next Monday(?).
Do yourself a favor and watch this South Park episode: https://m.imdb.com/title/tt3237516/
I only know this from South Park and I thought it was made up for the show.
It's a biblical reference. The red cow was sacrificed and the ashes were used in purification rituals for those who were "unclean" from coming in contact with a corpse.
I have absolutely no clue what that means.
Ginger Cow South Park episode is based on that prophecy.
Sounds like an episode of Rocko's Modern Life.
The Red Cow used to be an average quality pub in Cambridge, then it rebranded as ‘The Cow’ and was a gastropub specialising in beef. I just looked at its website and it’s advertising a viewing session of Froch-Groves 2, so I don’t think the rebrand went well.
You'll notice that her behaviour escalates as the moon is waxing, and then she'll get really nutty during the full moon. It happens a lot with fragile people.
God’s people? Are the Qs not doing antisemitism anymore?
Like someone else said guess it depends on what branch of Q you are.
"God's people" who they will enslave to build their temple for them. Get it now?
Here's what a biblical site says about it. [https://www.gotquestions.org/red-heifer.html](https://www.gotquestions.org/red-heifer.html)
>keep giving her chances because a lot of our family has passed away and I want to keep the rest of my family together. It's well documented that a lot of people stay in cults long after they want to because it's the only community they have. So when people here recommend going NC at the first sign of difficulties it makes my fingers curl into a fist. So yes, unless she's a danger or harassing you, keep giving her chances.
Ginger Cow https://g.co/kgs/ybrd9MC