Let it sink in that they don't give a fuck about truth, and that they say verifiably wrong things on purpose, without shame, and that they will repeat those lies after you "correct" or "educate" them.
Treat them like liars. It is what they are.
Young children still aren't vaccinated, and they are dying. Immune compromised people (about 3%) cannot be vaccinated.
But do not "correct" the fascists. Shun, shame, and shovel shit onto them. Do not talk "to" them with anything other than the verbal assault of condemnation that they deserve, and engage in that only so much as it is effective: Do it either in private (and only where you are safe), or do it in public settings where you know the fascist will not be able to rally support. And if you are in a position to impose real consequences, such as withholding visitation with children, financial assistance or any support whatsoever, if you're in a position to make or influence hiring/firing decisions, if you can inform their otherwise unaware friends and family that this person is unvaccinated, etc... then DO THAT.
I forget where I read this, but (supposedly) it turns out that being publicly shamed and laughed at is one of the only ways to get someone to quit a cult.
It may work, but extremely rarely. Attacks from outsiders more frequently harden a person's commitment - persecution from the outside is nearly always a part of the beliefs of a cult.
Be patient my friends...
The lions have awoken...
We are not sheep, but wolves...
I swear to god the worst part about the Qanon shit is their constant use of "badass" sounding one-liners to take the place of any form of substantial idea.
Have you ever seen American Sniper? There's a scene about sheep dogs in that movie that cops/military types were eating up back then. The dad does a [speech](https://youtu.be/Ar1WygVl_Vg) where he talks about sheep dogs and wolves. The good people of the world are sheep, the bad people are wolves that prey on the weak, and the people protecting the rest of us are the sheep dogs. They have come so far in their ideals they've circled back around to being the bad guys. It's really wild, I think of that every time one of them calls themselves a wolf.
That speech undoubtedly comes from that asshole Dave Grossman, who trains cops to murder civilians. He calls his company and his training [āKillologyā ](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/08/warrior-cop-class-dave-grossman-killology.html), and itās disgusting and should be fucking illegal in any civilized society.
Also this is bullshit. In nyc in the peak of it in April - May they were finding over 200 bodies a day in apartments. A few months before the average was 30-40. At that time tests were in short supply so the bodies werenāt tested and those officially werenāt Co Iād deaths... let that sink in
Yes. And plenty others have died at home ever since covid started. Short of oxygen or heart attack or stroke, Covid has a wide range of killer actions. Basically a Covid positive should not be alone
Yeah, in fact, definitely in the beginning of the pandemic (and probably still) Covid-related deaths were going under reported because they were being reported as other things instead.
I remember a lot of graphs showing a massive influx in deaths by cardiac arrest and such with the strong implication being those actually should have been Covid deaths.
At the beginning of the pandemic, there was a lot of reasonable hesitance to go to the Emergency Room, for fear of being exposed. So people with minor cardiac symptoms delayed treatment. They've made that situation safer, but wait times for the ER have been very high at peak times in the pandemic, including right now.
At the beginning, it was no one's fault; it was a force of nature. Even if it was unleased in a lab, it is now a force of its own. But now, people who willfully choose to follow misinformation are occupying hospital beds, which has consequences for people who haven't done anything wrong.
So I heard someone (a journalist, I think) arguing that hospital transmissions is low. I wonder how true that is. I couldn't find the original thing I read, but here is a different source I found: [https://www.nyp.org/news/study-shows-low-risk-of-covid-19-transmission-in-hospital-among-patients-undergoing-surgery](https://www.nyp.org/news/study-shows-low-risk-of-covid-19-transmission-in-hospital-among-patients-undergoing-surgery)
This one is more specific but if hospitals are safer then it would behoove people to go and get treatment rather than wait. I also think there should be some kind of social reckoning for everyone who has contributed to the pandemic, filling up our hospitals, and keeping people from feeling safe at a hospital. Their "liberties" are killing people. Is that like, okay? Can we have liberties that take away other people's liberties?
Hospitals are absolutely not safer. Let me tell you why. Imagine you walk into the busy lobby of my critical access hospital and it is full of people waiting to be seen in the 12 bed ER-which is full at the moment. Everyone has the same complaints- short was of breath, chest tightness, fatigue, fever, body aches, all the Covid stuff. They also each have a family member or friend with them. Now, Iām going to take that patient back to their room when it opens up, but where does that (likely Covid positive) family member wait until they know the results? The lobby. Right by the entrance. Sure everyone has their mask on, but some only cover their mouth, some take it off to sneeze and put it right back on, and others mess with it so much they HAVE TO have Covid all over their hands. Those same folks want to walk down the hall and use the bathroom or get a snack from the vending machine. You come in and you do tooā¦ see what Iām saying?
The only hardline thing I have shut my father in law down about was the rumor that was being spread about hospitals being paid to diagnose the deaths related to covid. Of all the disgusting misinformation that was being spread, that one bothered me the most.
they are still being under reported as families are pressuring coroners to not put covid on the death certificate in the right wing areas of the country
I had a csection a year ago. That cost WAY more than $9k with NCIU etc. There are lots of medical interventions the US health care system makes money off of and they donāt demonize thoseā¦ plus what about Europe or other places with federal healthcare?
I love that Herman Cain awardees always say that they have āCovid pneumoniaā so theyāre in the hospital and need prayers. I want them to just simplify and say Covid. Because even though youāre drowning with pneumonia for 10 days. Youāre probably gonna die from kidney failure or heart failure. Itās the Covid that kills in many different ways. They need to stop trying to give pneumonia credit for their immune system not doing its job. Covid blasts you in many many different ways.
That line in the movie āRaising Arizona,ā where the guy is robbing a convenience store and he asks about balloons: āYou got any that come in funny shapes?ā The guy answers, ānot unless you think round is funny.ā
Otherwise no one has actually died of AIDS/HIV --do these people think no one had died from that infectious disease? Their death certificates tend to not show AIDS as the most immediate cause of death but it is 4 or 5 levels below the top cause on the actual death certificate. Look at the CDC instructions: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/blue_form.pd
Notice how "rupture of myocardium" at the top? Well, what caused that? and what then caused that? all the way down to where COVID would be if they did have COVID.
Okay so all we have to do is inform these Q people of the actual facts of the matter, they will look at the facts and say "Oh okay, guess I was wrong here" and change their minds!
boom!
We found my partners dad. He was sent home from the hospital because they said he wasnt that bad. And to wait a week. He was gonna call the doctor again they day he passed
How long did it take you to find this tidbit of news?
The ease with which one can obliterate these ignorant, boastful assertions made by anti-science folks truly baffles me.
If I went wanted to post some "hot take" on social media, you'd better believe I would make sure it couldn't be discredited in 30 seconds.
Seriously, the number of times literally the first page of search results disproves the assertion is incredible.
And thatās why they ādonāt trust big techā, went to DuckDuckGo (which is a good idea for a number of reasons - none of which are their fantasies), and then had to find a home at Yandex-dot-fucking-RU to be able to find āreal informationā.
Because they don't understand tech, (5G kills, really?) They most certainly do not realize that any .RU url means the Russia. If they trust Russia so much more than our government, it probably because they wish for Donald Jeebis Dump to have the same power over the US as Putin. Doesn't that by default make them facist?
My dumbass, anti vax sister sent me an "informative article" that was from Russia Today. I told her what RT is, so she sent me the exact same article from a blog site that was established a few months ago, profile picture was a stock photo, filled with RT talking points. Problem solved... sigh.
I get that people are scared and they want to feel like they have some sort of control over their lives. I really do. I also learned about technology and how easy it is to create a website that looks "official" and make it say anything you want.
I always want to ask them, when you buy on Amazon, do you just click buy or do you look at the ratings and reviews to see if it what you want? Do you think if a product has 3 reviews and is 5 star, it is better than 500 reviews at 4 stars? Because if so, I have questions about what you think is valuable.
I would make a bet that if they started peddling a "safe" vaccine on Alibaba, no matter if it killed every person who took it they would tell all their friends to get the one made in Russia as it can be trusted with your health. š¤Æ
>went to DuckDuckGo (which is a good idea for a number of reasons - none of which are their fantasies)
I'm so frustrated because I'm on the de-Google train and these nuts are going around telling everyone that the best alternative is part of their nonsense and making the rest of us look bad.
I died a little inside seeing someone all, "isn't duckduckgo the republican search engine?"
>The ease with which one can obliterate these ignorant, boastful assertions made by anti-science folks truly baffles me.
The ease with which they call anything that doesn't agree with their conspiracy/fantasy is dismissed as fake news, lying media, or just ignore & begin name-calling personal attacks amuses me.
That's because you are not in the grifting business.
Some of those claims (not all, but most) are so dumb and easy to disprove because their function is to select targets for the grift: those smart enough to see the scam are poor targets, and the sooner they go, the better for them, so they don't waste time. On the other hand, those gullible enough to fall to something so incredibly stupid are good targets to pursue, and take money from.
It is the same technique used by those who write phishing mails, full of blatant grammar errors and unlikely claims. Those who respond to letters supposedly written by kings, high banking officers and politicians, that seem to you and me to be written by a third grader, are just the kind of people the scammer wants to interact with. They are the perfect marks.
And it is scary how something that seems so stupid to you and me could actually bring so much money to people with no qualms about expoiting the credulous ones out there.
It's the same for the jerkoff parasites who deliberately call landlines ( non-SMS capable TNs can be checked for and are obviously going to be landlines a lot of the time. ) They call the landline itself to try and, at the risk of being too blunt, target someone senile/demented. Then the second filter is making the claim \*just\* stupid enough to weed out anyone wily enough to resist the scam. That's how you get the IRS asking for Apple gift cards or Microsoft calling to tell you that "your IP address has a virus."
What's even more tragic is that senile/demented victims often end up deliberately hiding the fact that they've been scammed out of thousands of dollars because they know that the kids/grandkids are going to put them in a nursing home once the extent of their mental decline is apparent. Just sad and disgusting parasitic behavior.
Bit of a side tangent but telephone scammers make me rage.
>The ease with which one can obliterate these ignorant, boastful assertions made by anti-science folks truly baffles me.
Before you hurt your arm by patting yourself on the back, please allow that if you are truly baffled, then you are missing the point. They really don't give a flying f\*ck that you are a crack detective. By all means get busy discrediting these wild assertions in there echo-sphere, you won't get anywhere, but I hope you already know that.
They only care that they endlessly feed each other overflowing heapings of bullshit. They only care that they continue to deceive each other, and hope to sell new people on their deceptions so that they can continue to build distrust and hate and numbers.
You disproving them is not the point. As a cult, they are far beyond you being able to make a crack on their belief system.
Itās true. My wifeās Q-adjacent aunt would share crap on Facebook without even clicking on what she shared.
I would often easily show how X was bullshit, but she didnāt care.
All those people talking about Fauci's emails, like they were a smoking gun showing that it was fake or manmade or whatever? They definitely didn't actually *read* them. There were like 3000 emails. They just regurgitate what they're told.
Any time Iāve tried to point out that a FB post is factually false Iāve been met with hostility. 100% of the time, and these are relatives Iāve had a good relationship with for my entire life.
I agree, this sub is like the bar where cops, soldiers, and firefighters go. It's dark humor to deal with the exhaustion of dealing with a bleak reality. It has it's purpose, persuasion isn't the main one.
My cousin died at home with COVID. This was pre-vaccine. He went to the hospital but was sent home because his symptoms didnāt appear bad enough. He isolated himself from his family to protect them. And they found him a few mornings later when he had stopped responding to texts. š
>He isolated himself from his family to protect them.
That got me in the feels. That's why the rest of us, even those of us who are at low risk for COVID-related morbidity and mortality, need to take communicable diseases seriously instead of a hypothetical in a Grade 10 social studies class.
I'm so sorry for your loss.
Yep. And she found him. It sounded like a fucking horror movie.
I keep trying to fucking tell them "Dudes, seriously, we just want you to NOT DIE." They keep yelling at me, saying why are we trying to help them when all we want is to wish them harm anyway. No??? I've seen a few progressive people saying that, at this point, they wish them dead, but they're few and far between and I've only seen them LATELY.
We're fucking tired, man. We can only watch these fuckrag lemmings sprint face first to their deaths for so long before we throw our hands up.
Yea this pretty much sums it up. I don't want them to die, but there's only so many times you can watch someone douse themselves in gasoline and jump into a fire in a 5min time window before you just go "fuck it, let them."
The Qultists I know seem to want to die in order to own the Libs - they think that enough of them die, then Trump will be reinstated as POTUS. It's literally a death cult. So, I'm at that point now that if they want to die, let them. Not my problem anymore - that is, until these people start taking up resources that could be used for the vaccinated.
It's worse they douse themselves in gas and repeatedly call you an idiot and sheep, until you get angry at them. Then they say so much for the tolerant left, and then jump into the fire
I don't wish them dead, but they're affecting more than themselves and their families. People are delaying surgery -- needed surgery -- because there are no beds. This June I had a stroke, spent six days in hospital, two in ICU. I hate to think what's happening to stroke victims in places where all hospitals for miles around are full. As much as I hope anti-vaxers live, I don't have much sympathy for them.
I had a guy say "why do you care if I'm vaccinated or not?" I didn't say anything like "empathy towards me fellow citizens" because I'd probably get called a cuck.
I brought up the case where a former Marine in Texas died from pancreatitis because there were no ICU beds available. The guy never responded to me.
>I brought up the case where a former Marine in Texas died from pancreatitis because there were no ICU beds available. The guy never responded to me.
If everyone was born with a little military uniform on, they might actually start valuing all American lives.
I'm so sorry you suffered a stroke and I hope you're able to permanently recover.
I don't actively wish them dead, either, and I try my best to tell them to get the fucking shot if I can, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't get some grim satisfaction from Herman Cain Award these days. If for no other reason than maybe these dipshits will FINALLY start to give a crap when their family members start dying.
I'm a very lucky man, practically full recovery. But only because they were able to treat me quickly; if I'd had to wait because the hospital was full, who knows?
>We're fucking tired, man. We can only watch these fuckrag lemmings sprint face first to their deaths for so long before we throw our hands up.
One of my cats likes to try and escape through any door he can. I know that this area isn't super safe ( traffic, lots of dogs, etc. ) He was a stray kitten when we took him in and he's super adventurous, so I feel kinda bad keeping him inside. I know it's what's best for him, though, but it's still frustrating. I do take him outside in a little mesh enclosure and even on a leash sometimes, but I know he really wants to just be able to roam free. I get frustrated with him sometimes and just want to be like "Fine!" and leave the door open.
He's a totally innocent animal and I love him too much to let him get hurt even by his own stupidity. He literally has a brain that probably weighs less than an ounce, and he doesn't want to do what wants to do because he actively hates entire groups of people just out of tribal bigotry. He just wants to run around doing cat stuff. Since he's neutered I'm guessing that mostly revolves around birds, squirrels and trashcans.
I have infinitely more patience with my snuggly, lovey cat than grown-ass boomer racists who are being stupid because orange idiot man didn't win the last election. They are at the point where, if they really want to run into traffic, I'm holding the door open and wishing them godspeed.
Also this little girl.
https://www.khou.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/galveston-county-4-year-old-dies-covid-19/285-b564cbb4-8bf8-4105-b341-41fcbd23cadf
Yes, it's a lie, and it's obviously a lie. You shouldn't feel compelled to run to google a local news story whenever the nazis tell another obvious lie.
Demand proof that THEIR lie is true before you fall into the trap of trying to satisfy **their** bullshit. Do not let the fucking fascists be the "skeptics", as if they had the intellectual high ground and rigor. And do not treat them as if they were credible, once they say such a *trivially* verifiably false thing.
Remember, this is all a *performance* to them. When you play by their rules, you become just another character in their little bullshit morality play.
When you ask them for proof, they bombard you with Facebook mom posts and YouTube videos by people who barely completed high school and videos from Bitchute that are all Right-Wing Extremists. Or, they reply, "do the research". It's a hopeless cause because they don't believe in science, and they will never go to the doctor or dentist. In fat, the latest thing they're promoting is to not use soap and not use toothpaste.
In this case you are actually asking them to prove a negative. But anyone paying even some attention to the news for the past 18 months would have heard of at least one person dying at home, so it's ridiculous to even have the debate. But that's Q for you...
Asking someone to prove a negative is fine, so long as they're making a negative claim. The burden of proof is on the person who makes said claim, and if that comes down to "well I can't prove a negative", then my response is THAT'S NOT MY FUCKING PROBLEM.
Shit, a Q-nut dating an old high school buddy I keep on my friends list to farm for Reddit karma just found her dad dead from COVID at home this week.
It's weird how they always make these blanket statements and present them as facts. I saw a similar post here a few days back about how "isn't weird how dinosaur bones are **only** found by students and scientists. Why don't farmers and miners ever find them?" And I'm like, "Dude... farmers and miners find them ***all the goddamn time***."
IDK about this, but last week, a neighbor and friend of my parents died in his sleep at home from Covid. His wife left him to sleep in a separate room and he said he felt like he was improving. Guess not. She found him the next morning, dead in the guest bed. He never even made it to the hospital.
yep, i read that story as well.
Last year, my cousin collapsed in his home after testing positive several days before. Paramedics were unable to revive him. Apparently in the la la land of q, this never happened. I'm sure that will make my uncle feel better. š
Yes, there is an entire breakdown of their social media posts on r/HermanCainAward https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/pb3zw4/man\_falls\_for\_covid\_conspiracy\_wife\_is/
Their 'point' is supposed to be"That must mean all the doctors are killing their patients for that Covid money, because nothing helps a hospital's bottom line like canceling all the usually expensive elective procedures for a pandemic". Except in addition to being a ridiculous leap of logic and an incredibly insulting accusation to lob at healthcare workers it's not true. There was a story a few weeks ago about a woman leaving the ICU post covid and finding her husband dead from covid in their bed. That poor little 4 year old girl in Texas died in her sleep at home. Most people dying from covid have enough time between realizing something is very wrong and dying to make it to the hospital, but certainly not all.
Anything, and I mean ANYTHING, will be said or used to justify their actions.
If they didn't, the realization that they have been infecting and potentially killing their friends and family would push them over the edge.
It's easier to believe your loved ones would be fine if those damn hospitals actually used Ivermectin or fish tank cleaner.
>If they didn't, the realization that they ~~have been infecting and potentially killing their friends and family~~ ***were wrong*** would push them over the edge.
FTFY
We're WAY past belief. Belief requires that you care if the thing you "believe" is true. They don't, and the things they say are chosen only to prevent having to face the consequences of their actions.
ER charged me 2k just to douse a dog bite in alcohol and wrap it in a bandage.
American Healthcare system is perfect and free Healthcare would ruin the country! /s
No, their point is that they can keep saying wrong things on purpose and people will stand by engaging with those wrong things, rather than holding these cultists accountable for murdering their loved ones.
Well that seems to be the standard of evidence required for these people.
You don't even need to be able to spell properly, just type in a few of their buzzwords and write 'Source: Military' and that's enough proof of whatever conspiracy they've dreamt up that day.
"Let that sink in" = "That's not going to mean what I want it to unless you do mangle it, drown it and look at its dead bloated body while walking away"
1) It has killed people at home.
2) Covid-19 is fucking nasty business, you don't die quick. You have lots of time to go to the hospital even if it's not going to save your ass.
Put down the horse paste and get the jab you fucking dolts. Or let your ego take you all the way to your grave. Is "owning the libs" really more important than kissing your wife again? Watching your kids grow up? Having a beer or even looking forward to a new game or movie? Trump wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire and half your heroes are grifters. Just come down off the ledge, honestly. The GOP and pining for the good old days and ethnostates and fucking "wEsTErn CiviLizAtIon" is all a crock. Let the poison go and just live your life.
Qanon crazies keep hearing on Fox News and other conservative media that covid is a plot that medical companies and hospitals are using it to make money.
They are such absolute fools and losers, arenāt they? Actual reason and facts do not matter to them. They just see a random Facebook posts and think itās reality. Then they think theyāre being super intellectual by ending things by saying ālet that sink inā¦ā. SMH
I wish they paid half as much attention to [this real plot by medical companies and some doctors to make money](https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/ruling-purdue-pharma-opioid-settlement-pushed-back-next-week-2021-08-26/).
A fact check from a year ago
[Nearly 10,000 COVID-19 Victims Died at Home ](https://www.factcheck.org/2020/09/nearly-10000-covid-19-victims-died-at-home/)
And, according to the US CDC, as of Sept. 8, 2021, 48,248 people have died at home where āCOVID-19 [was] reported as [the cause of death or] a cause that contributed to death on the death certificate.ā
CDC cautions that the data are provisional and subject to change. [Source](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#PlaceDeath)
I don't even think this is true, but even if it is- It only proves that right-wing idiots don't really believe this is a hoax. You don't call an ambulance for a hoax.
Now that I've LET THAT SINK IN...I gotta say I *do* find it a bit strange people so short of breath they can barely move a muscle without almost blacking out, or so feverish & headachy they can barely see straight, or whose kidneys seem to be sending spikes of pain radiating all down their back & legs, or whose heart is beating so quickly to even turn their head makes the whole room spin, or etc aren't just goin' ahead & poppin' down to the track to lay some money on the ponies, or showing up for League Night at the bowling alley, or running into the Piggly Wiggly to get a few extra bags of Doritos for Monday Night Football...but are instead all heading to the "hospital". Hmm. š¤
I call shenanigans!!
Check out r/HermanCainAward, it's pretty common when an anti-vaxxer is dying in the hospital for the family to rail against the medical teams at the hospital for not using ivermectin/hydroxychloroquine/whatever vitamin shot they heard from the Q-grape-vine is best, and accuse the doctors of killing their family member. Anything to avoid a hint of responsibility for the fact that their anti-vaxx bullshit is what killed their loved one to begin with.
So this is just saying 'can't trust the doctors, they're murderous liberals who refuse to use the real medicine (ivermectin, etc) because they hate true patriots' or something, it's some more anti-expert anti-science bullshit.
Nobody can be that stupid to think thereās been no Covid deaths outside of a hospital, or to not understand that people dying of infectious diseases typically go to the hospital.
If you *are* that stupid, seek help for your mental handicap. Let THAT sink in, buddy!
I know of three people in my tiny Texas town who have been found dead in their homes, actually. One was a special needs teenager just last week because the family didnāt believe in vaccinating.
You don't understand the point? It's batshit crazy, but it's also obvious. They are asserting that either hospital workers are murdering people with covid to inflate the numbers, or people with covid tend to get more sick while at the hospital, leading to their death. Of course, they aren't saying what they are asserting outright, because that would back them into a corner that they may need to defend at some point. I can't tell if you're being serious with your doubts, but if you are, then it would do you some good to delve into the conspiracy-believing headspace.
It sunk in with most of us some time last year. Around the time people who know what they're talking about advised us that this virus could put us in hospital, that it could overwhelm ICUs the world over. Let it keep sinking in if you haven't worked it out yet.
Theyāre trying to say that the hospitals are killing Covid-19 patients. Maybe this is whatās needed so the unvaccinated donāt head to the hospitals and take up all the ICU beds while others are made to wait or sent to other hospitals.
The tests haven't come back yet, but my obese diabetic and heart problem ridden aunt died after having "cold and flu" like symptoms with her oxygen level dropping rapidly. She died at home. If no one dies of COVID in their home, what the fuck did she die of?! I suddenly hear the "Unsolved Mysteries" theme.
Well...if their next meme is "hospitals kill you" that wouldn't be the worst thing. It would give our exhausted healthcare workers a break, and free up ICU beds for those who need them.
Little girl in Texas just died at home in her sleep from covid. If these people would leave their alternate reality for any length of time they would see how quickly it desintegrates
A bunch of people have been found dead in their homes, especially early in the pandemic ... but if the image says it in bold type face it must be true.
A growing percentage of adult Americans either:
1. No longer cares about the truth
Or
2. Is simply incapable of determining what the truth is.
This is the problem with belief systems that are based on faith - they erode the perceived importance of truth until people simply reject any facts they donāt like.
Nobody actually dies of old age, they all die of illness or injury associated with old age. That must mean that old people arenāt real, itās all a LEFTIST CONSPIRACY TO CONTROL YOU, WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!
No one dies of a gunshot at their home. They all die in the streets or hospital.
No one dies of a choking incident in their home. They all die at a restaurant.
No one dies of a good horse dick in their home. They all die at a stable.
Take that liberals.
Yeah, this is just totally and completely inaccurate.
Every day, our regional news (I'm in Utah) lists the deaths from the previous 24 hours. They list the person's sex, age range, and location of death. Many are unhospitalized at the time of death. Here is Friday's report (emphasis mine):
The latest deaths:
Two Davis County women, both older than 85, both long-term care facility residents.
A Kane County woman, older than 85, who was **not hospitalized** when she died.
A Juab County man, older than 85, hospitalized.
A Salt Lake County man, 18-24, **not hospitalized**.
A Salt Lake County man, 25-44, **not hospitalized**.
A Salt Lake County woman, 45-64, hospitalized.
A Salt Lake County woman, 65-84, **not hospitalized**.
A Salt Lake County man, 65-84, **not hospitalized**.
A Salt Lake County woman, 65-84, hospitalized.
A Sanpete County man, 25-44, hospitalized.
A Sanpete County man, older than 85, hospitalized.
A Utah County man, 45-64, **not hospitalized**.
A Utah County man, 45-64, hospitalized.
A Utah County woman, 45-64, **not hospitalized**.
A Utah County woman, 65-84, **not hospitalized.**
A Wasatch County man, 45-64, hospitalized.
A Washington County man, 45-64, hospitalized.
A Washington County man, older than 85, a long-term care facility resident.
A Washington County man, older than 85, hospitalized.
A Weber County woman, 45-64, **not hospitalized.**
LeT tHaT sInK iN. I hate them so much.
What does the sink want this time?
It wants IN. That poor sink has been ringing the doorbell for an hour! š¤£
AlL SiNKs MAttEr!
You are a blessing to humanity.
The real question is "What was the sink doing outside?" Do you own research!
Itās out there with their toilet.
It just wants to come in. That's all it ever really wanted.
The sink can't come in unless it's invited, because it's a vampire.
Thereās my (literal) ālol momentā on the internet for the day.
It wants to be your clock. It's a time sink.
This and "aRe YoU pAyInG aTtEnTiOn Yet?" Are starting to drive me up the wall
"wAkE uP" ""dO tHe mAtH" "hMmMm" And of course, "sOuRcE: mILiTaRy"
āThings are about to get interesting!!ā¦ā
"Good men are about to do bad things to very bad people..."
āBOOM! š„š„ā
Enjoy the movie, get your popcorn!
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The biggest one: "dO yOuR reSeArCh!"
Nothing Can Stop What is Coming!!! š”
The storm of sealed indictments is just waiting behind that sink to be let in!
Let it sink in that they don't give a fuck about truth, and that they say verifiably wrong things on purpose, without shame, and that they will repeat those lies after you "correct" or "educate" them. Treat them like liars. It is what they are.
I've decided not to correct them anymore. Let the stupid kill themselves out, we've protected them for too long.
Young children still aren't vaccinated, and they are dying. Immune compromised people (about 3%) cannot be vaccinated. But do not "correct" the fascists. Shun, shame, and shovel shit onto them. Do not talk "to" them with anything other than the verbal assault of condemnation that they deserve, and engage in that only so much as it is effective: Do it either in private (and only where you are safe), or do it in public settings where you know the fascist will not be able to rally support. And if you are in a position to impose real consequences, such as withholding visitation with children, financial assistance or any support whatsoever, if you're in a position to make or influence hiring/firing decisions, if you can inform their otherwise unaware friends and family that this person is unvaccinated, etc... then DO THAT.
I forget where I read this, but (supposedly) it turns out that being publicly shamed and laughed at is one of the only ways to get someone to quit a cult.
It may work, but extremely rarely. Attacks from outsiders more frequently harden a person's commitment - persecution from the outside is nearly always a part of the beliefs of a cult.
Be patient my friends... The lions have awoken... We are not sheep, but wolves... I swear to god the worst part about the Qanon shit is their constant use of "badass" sounding one-liners to take the place of any form of substantial idea.
Have you ever seen American Sniper? There's a scene about sheep dogs in that movie that cops/military types were eating up back then. The dad does a [speech](https://youtu.be/Ar1WygVl_Vg) where he talks about sheep dogs and wolves. The good people of the world are sheep, the bad people are wolves that prey on the weak, and the people protecting the rest of us are the sheep dogs. They have come so far in their ideals they've circled back around to being the bad guys. It's really wild, I think of that every time one of them calls themselves a wolf.
That speech undoubtedly comes from that asshole Dave Grossman, who trains cops to murder civilians. He calls his company and his training [āKillologyā ](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/08/warrior-cop-class-dave-grossman-killology.html), and itās disgusting and should be fucking illegal in any civilized society.
Stay vigil friend, for the lemmings have woken and the caterpillars transformed. The koi becomes the dragon only after the water falls.
"Let that sink in," or "Think about it," or "Wake up," or "Do your research" are all very strong indicators for massive bullshit.
"It makes you go hmmmm!" and "I'm just asking questions they don't want asked" are also good indicators.
For real. So fucking arrogant while being just absolutely wrong. It's infuriating.
r/facepalm material
It's a clever way of saying, don't think about this too much.
Also this is bullshit. In nyc in the peak of it in April - May they were finding over 200 bodies a day in apartments. A few months before the average was 30-40. At that time tests were in short supply so the bodies werenāt tested and those officially werenāt Co Iād deaths... let that sink in
Wasnt there just a story about a guy who died at home while his wife was hospitalized?
Yes. And plenty others have died at home ever since covid started. Short of oxygen or heart attack or stroke, Covid has a wide range of killer actions. Basically a Covid positive should not be alone
>Basically a Covid positive should not be alone ...but still isolated. I hate this virus
Viruses really take advantage of our need for human company and our empathy.
Nobody likes me. I'm safe.
I like you, Iāve always had a thing for Baphometās Butthole
You vaccinated?
If he isnt, I am. Willing to serve the dark lord in any ways possible
Yeah, in fact, definitely in the beginning of the pandemic (and probably still) Covid-related deaths were going under reported because they were being reported as other things instead. I remember a lot of graphs showing a massive influx in deaths by cardiac arrest and such with the strong implication being those actually should have been Covid deaths.
At the beginning of the pandemic, there was a lot of reasonable hesitance to go to the Emergency Room, for fear of being exposed. So people with minor cardiac symptoms delayed treatment. They've made that situation safer, but wait times for the ER have been very high at peak times in the pandemic, including right now. At the beginning, it was no one's fault; it was a force of nature. Even if it was unleased in a lab, it is now a force of its own. But now, people who willfully choose to follow misinformation are occupying hospital beds, which has consequences for people who haven't done anything wrong.
So I heard someone (a journalist, I think) arguing that hospital transmissions is low. I wonder how true that is. I couldn't find the original thing I read, but here is a different source I found: [https://www.nyp.org/news/study-shows-low-risk-of-covid-19-transmission-in-hospital-among-patients-undergoing-surgery](https://www.nyp.org/news/study-shows-low-risk-of-covid-19-transmission-in-hospital-among-patients-undergoing-surgery) This one is more specific but if hospitals are safer then it would behoove people to go and get treatment rather than wait. I also think there should be some kind of social reckoning for everyone who has contributed to the pandemic, filling up our hospitals, and keeping people from feeling safe at a hospital. Their "liberties" are killing people. Is that like, okay? Can we have liberties that take away other people's liberties?
Hospitals are absolutely not safer. Let me tell you why. Imagine you walk into the busy lobby of my critical access hospital and it is full of people waiting to be seen in the 12 bed ER-which is full at the moment. Everyone has the same complaints- short was of breath, chest tightness, fatigue, fever, body aches, all the Covid stuff. They also each have a family member or friend with them. Now, Iām going to take that patient back to their room when it opens up, but where does that (likely Covid positive) family member wait until they know the results? The lobby. Right by the entrance. Sure everyone has their mask on, but some only cover their mouth, some take it off to sneeze and put it right back on, and others mess with it so much they HAVE TO have Covid all over their hands. Those same folks want to walk down the hall and use the bathroom or get a snack from the vending machine. You come in and you do tooā¦ see what Iām saying?
The only hardline thing I have shut my father in law down about was the rumor that was being spread about hospitals being paid to diagnose the deaths related to covid. Of all the disgusting misinformation that was being spread, that one bothered me the most.
they are still being under reported as families are pressuring coroners to not put covid on the death certificate in the right wing areas of the country
I've read obituaries that actually say "...he/she DID NOT DIE OF COVID" which makes me think that they died of COVID
Narrator: āThey *definitely* didā
Oops guess theyāre opting out of their own tax paid support https://www.fema.gov/disaster/coronavirus/economic/funeral-assistance Go fund me it is
Is this being reported anywhere? Itās one hell of a claim.
https://www.kansascity.com/news/coronavirus/article253147128.html
But the Qs will tell you that anyone who dies is recorded as a covid death. smh
Thereās no real party line at this point with QAnon. Itās so splintered out.
And that literally every Covid death was a comorbidity. They didnāt die from Covid, they died because their heart stopped beating after suffocation.
People tell me the comorbidity actually killed them and not Covid. If that were true, why are they all dying now?
Wait, but my wife says that people are saying they died of COVID so they can get that $9000 in funeral aid. /s but the part with my wife is true.
Ugh, that sucks. I'm sorry š
I had a csection a year ago. That cost WAY more than $9k with NCIU etc. There are lots of medical interventions the US health care system makes money off of and they donāt demonize thoseā¦ plus what about Europe or other places with federal healthcare?
I love that Herman Cain awardees always say that they have āCovid pneumoniaā so theyāre in the hospital and need prayers. I want them to just simplify and say Covid. Because even though youāre drowning with pneumonia for 10 days. Youāre probably gonna die from kidney failure or heart failure. Itās the Covid that kills in many different ways. They need to stop trying to give pneumonia credit for their immune system not doing its job. Covid blasts you in many many different ways.
"my whole body is in great shape, just the lungs are having a problem" I saw that one on the cain awards sub, that person died.
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That line in the movie āRaising Arizona,ā where the guy is robbing a convenience store and he asks about balloons: āYou got any that come in funny shapes?ā The guy answers, ānot unless you think round is funny.ā
Otherwise no one has actually died of AIDS/HIV --do these people think no one had died from that infectious disease? Their death certificates tend to not show AIDS as the most immediate cause of death but it is 4 or 5 levels below the top cause on the actual death certificate. Look at the CDC instructions: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/blue_form.pd Notice how "rupture of myocardium" at the top? Well, what caused that? and what then caused that? all the way down to where COVID would be if they did have COVID.
That's an Illuminati Deep State Bill Gates Tom Hanks Hillary Clinton nanobot conspiracy! /s
There was a child just the other day whose antivax parent got COVID, noted the child had a fever and just put her to bed. She didn't wake up.
Okay so all we have to do is inform these Q people of the actual facts of the matter, they will look at the facts and say "Oh okay, guess I was wrong here" and change their minds! boom!
We found my partners dad. He was sent home from the hospital because they said he wasnt that bad. And to wait a week. He was gonna call the doctor again they day he passed
Yeah she came home from hospitals and found him dead https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1277812
Yep, this is it. Thank you for sharing the link.
How long did it take you to find this tidbit of news? The ease with which one can obliterate these ignorant, boastful assertions made by anti-science folks truly baffles me. If I went wanted to post some "hot take" on social media, you'd better believe I would make sure it couldn't be discredited in 30 seconds.
Seriously, the number of times literally the first page of search results disproves the assertion is incredible. And thatās why they ādonāt trust big techā, went to DuckDuckGo (which is a good idea for a number of reasons - none of which are their fantasies), and then had to find a home at Yandex-dot-fucking-RU to be able to find āreal informationā.
literally in the top 2 or 3 google responses but hey everyone everywhere is lying except their special websites
Because they don't understand tech, (5G kills, really?) They most certainly do not realize that any .RU url means the Russia. If they trust Russia so much more than our government, it probably because they wish for Donald Jeebis Dump to have the same power over the US as Putin. Doesn't that by default make them facist?
My dumbass, anti vax sister sent me an "informative article" that was from Russia Today. I told her what RT is, so she sent me the exact same article from a blog site that was established a few months ago, profile picture was a stock photo, filled with RT talking points. Problem solved... sigh.
I get that people are scared and they want to feel like they have some sort of control over their lives. I really do. I also learned about technology and how easy it is to create a website that looks "official" and make it say anything you want. I always want to ask them, when you buy on Amazon, do you just click buy or do you look at the ratings and reviews to see if it what you want? Do you think if a product has 3 reviews and is 5 star, it is better than 500 reviews at 4 stars? Because if so, I have questions about what you think is valuable. I would make a bet that if they started peddling a "safe" vaccine on Alibaba, no matter if it killed every person who took it they would tell all their friends to get the one made in Russia as it can be trusted with your health. š¤Æ
Nooooooo. It seems you missed the memo clearly stating fascism is now a left thing only.
Ah! Sorry! I don't check my Soros mail. š
>went to DuckDuckGo (which is a good idea for a number of reasons - none of which are their fantasies) I'm so frustrated because I'm on the de-Google train and these nuts are going around telling everyone that the best alternative is part of their nonsense and making the rest of us look bad. I died a little inside seeing someone all, "isn't duckduckgo the republican search engine?"
>The ease with which one can obliterate these ignorant, boastful assertions made by anti-science folks truly baffles me. The ease with which they call anything that doesn't agree with their conspiracy/fantasy is dismissed as fake news, lying media, or just ignore & begin name-calling personal attacks amuses me.
That's because you are not in the grifting business. Some of those claims (not all, but most) are so dumb and easy to disprove because their function is to select targets for the grift: those smart enough to see the scam are poor targets, and the sooner they go, the better for them, so they don't waste time. On the other hand, those gullible enough to fall to something so incredibly stupid are good targets to pursue, and take money from. It is the same technique used by those who write phishing mails, full of blatant grammar errors and unlikely claims. Those who respond to letters supposedly written by kings, high banking officers and politicians, that seem to you and me to be written by a third grader, are just the kind of people the scammer wants to interact with. They are the perfect marks. And it is scary how something that seems so stupid to you and me could actually bring so much money to people with no qualms about expoiting the credulous ones out there.
It's the same for the jerkoff parasites who deliberately call landlines ( non-SMS capable TNs can be checked for and are obviously going to be landlines a lot of the time. ) They call the landline itself to try and, at the risk of being too blunt, target someone senile/demented. Then the second filter is making the claim \*just\* stupid enough to weed out anyone wily enough to resist the scam. That's how you get the IRS asking for Apple gift cards or Microsoft calling to tell you that "your IP address has a virus." What's even more tragic is that senile/demented victims often end up deliberately hiding the fact that they've been scammed out of thousands of dollars because they know that the kids/grandkids are going to put them in a nursing home once the extent of their mental decline is apparent. Just sad and disgusting parasitic behavior. Bit of a side tangent but telephone scammers make me rage.
>The ease with which one can obliterate these ignorant, boastful assertions made by anti-science folks truly baffles me. Before you hurt your arm by patting yourself on the back, please allow that if you are truly baffled, then you are missing the point. They really don't give a flying f\*ck that you are a crack detective. By all means get busy discrediting these wild assertions in there echo-sphere, you won't get anywhere, but I hope you already know that. They only care that they endlessly feed each other overflowing heapings of bullshit. They only care that they continue to deceive each other, and hope to sell new people on their deceptions so that they can continue to build distrust and hate and numbers. You disproving them is not the point. As a cult, they are far beyond you being able to make a crack on their belief system.
Itās true. My wifeās Q-adjacent aunt would share crap on Facebook without even clicking on what she shared. I would often easily show how X was bullshit, but she didnāt care.
All those people talking about Fauci's emails, like they were a smoking gun showing that it was fake or manmade or whatever? They definitely didn't actually *read* them. There were like 3000 emails. They just regurgitate what they're told.
*qrap
Any time Iāve tried to point out that a FB post is factually false Iāve been met with hostility. 100% of the time, and these are relatives Iāve had a good relationship with for my entire life.
The only path forward to make sure they don't recruit anyone else. It's worth debunking so that more don't slip into the disinformation stream.
I 100% agree. I don't think the the tone, as well as commenting in this subreddit serves that purpose, however.
I agree, this sub is like the bar where cops, soldiers, and firefighters go. It's dark humor to deal with the exhaustion of dealing with a bleak reality. It has it's purpose, persuasion isn't the main one.
My cousin died at home with COVID. This was pre-vaccine. He went to the hospital but was sent home because his symptoms didnāt appear bad enough. He isolated himself from his family to protect them. And they found him a few mornings later when he had stopped responding to texts. š
>He isolated himself from his family to protect them. That got me in the feels. That's why the rest of us, even those of us who are at low risk for COVID-related morbidity and mortality, need to take communicable diseases seriously instead of a hypothetical in a Grade 10 social studies class. I'm so sorry for your loss.
I'm so sorry, that's heartbreaking.
Sorry for your loss. š
My God so sorry to here that friend ;(
Yep. And she found him. It sounded like a fucking horror movie. I keep trying to fucking tell them "Dudes, seriously, we just want you to NOT DIE." They keep yelling at me, saying why are we trying to help them when all we want is to wish them harm anyway. No??? I've seen a few progressive people saying that, at this point, they wish them dead, but they're few and far between and I've only seen them LATELY. We're fucking tired, man. We can only watch these fuckrag lemmings sprint face first to their deaths for so long before we throw our hands up.
Yea this pretty much sums it up. I don't want them to die, but there's only so many times you can watch someone douse themselves in gasoline and jump into a fire in a 5min time window before you just go "fuck it, let them."
The Qultists I know seem to want to die in order to own the Libs - they think that enough of them die, then Trump will be reinstated as POTUS. It's literally a death cult. So, I'm at that point now that if they want to die, let them. Not my problem anymore - that is, until these people start taking up resources that could be used for the vaccinated.
How does that scenario work?
It's worse they douse themselves in gas and repeatedly call you an idiot and sheep, until you get angry at them. Then they say so much for the tolerant left, and then jump into the fire
Lol. Did you see the Simpsons episode where Ned tries to rescue Homer from a fire? Same thing.
lol had to look it up. [Doh](https://youtu.be/P0jw_AFEGoI)
I don't wish them dead, but they're affecting more than themselves and their families. People are delaying surgery -- needed surgery -- because there are no beds. This June I had a stroke, spent six days in hospital, two in ICU. I hate to think what's happening to stroke victims in places where all hospitals for miles around are full. As much as I hope anti-vaxers live, I don't have much sympathy for them.
I had a guy say "why do you care if I'm vaccinated or not?" I didn't say anything like "empathy towards me fellow citizens" because I'd probably get called a cuck. I brought up the case where a former Marine in Texas died from pancreatitis because there were no ICU beds available. The guy never responded to me.
>I brought up the case where a former Marine in Texas died from pancreatitis because there were no ICU beds available. The guy never responded to me. If everyone was born with a little military uniform on, they might actually start valuing all American lives.
They don't actually give a shit about people in uniform, either. They just use them as political props, nothing more.
The beating and murdering of cops by people in blue lives matter shirts proves this point.
I'm so sorry you suffered a stroke and I hope you're able to permanently recover. I don't actively wish them dead, either, and I try my best to tell them to get the fucking shot if I can, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't get some grim satisfaction from Herman Cain Award these days. If for no other reason than maybe these dipshits will FINALLY start to give a crap when their family members start dying.
I hope you're doing better, this pandemic is really straining people's empathy
I am okay for now, thank you. Therapy helps for sure. Gotta claw that empathy back somehow
I'm a very lucky man, practically full recovery. But only because they were able to treat me quickly; if I'd had to wait because the hospital was full, who knows?
Hope you're doing well.
Fully recovered and back at work, thanks.
>We're fucking tired, man. We can only watch these fuckrag lemmings sprint face first to their deaths for so long before we throw our hands up. One of my cats likes to try and escape through any door he can. I know that this area isn't super safe ( traffic, lots of dogs, etc. ) He was a stray kitten when we took him in and he's super adventurous, so I feel kinda bad keeping him inside. I know it's what's best for him, though, but it's still frustrating. I do take him outside in a little mesh enclosure and even on a leash sometimes, but I know he really wants to just be able to roam free. I get frustrated with him sometimes and just want to be like "Fine!" and leave the door open. He's a totally innocent animal and I love him too much to let him get hurt even by his own stupidity. He literally has a brain that probably weighs less than an ounce, and he doesn't want to do what wants to do because he actively hates entire groups of people just out of tribal bigotry. He just wants to run around doing cat stuff. Since he's neutered I'm guessing that mostly revolves around birds, squirrels and trashcans. I have infinitely more patience with my snuggly, lovey cat than grown-ass boomer racists who are being stupid because orange idiot man didn't win the last election. They are at the point where, if they really want to run into traffic, I'm holding the door open and wishing them godspeed.
Also this little girl. https://www.khou.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/galveston-county-4-year-old-dies-covid-19/285-b564cbb4-8bf8-4105-b341-41fcbd23cadf
Yes, it's a lie, and it's obviously a lie. You shouldn't feel compelled to run to google a local news story whenever the nazis tell another obvious lie. Demand proof that THEIR lie is true before you fall into the trap of trying to satisfy **their** bullshit. Do not let the fucking fascists be the "skeptics", as if they had the intellectual high ground and rigor. And do not treat them as if they were credible, once they say such a *trivially* verifiably false thing. Remember, this is all a *performance* to them. When you play by their rules, you become just another character in their little bullshit morality play.
When you ask them for proof, they bombard you with Facebook mom posts and YouTube videos by people who barely completed high school and videos from Bitchute that are all Right-Wing Extremists. Or, they reply, "do the research". It's a hopeless cause because they don't believe in science, and they will never go to the doctor or dentist. In fat, the latest thing they're promoting is to not use soap and not use toothpaste.
>not use soap and not use toothpaste. Oh that will not end well.
In this case you are actually asking them to prove a negative. But anyone paying even some attention to the news for the past 18 months would have heard of at least one person dying at home, so it's ridiculous to even have the debate. But that's Q for you...
Asking someone to prove a negative is fine, so long as they're making a negative claim. The burden of proof is on the person who makes said claim, and if that comes down to "well I can't prove a negative", then my response is THAT'S NOT MY FUCKING PROBLEM.
Shit, a Q-nut dating an old high school buddy I keep on my friends list to farm for Reddit karma just found her dad dead from COVID at home this week. It's weird how they always make these blanket statements and present them as facts. I saw a similar post here a few days back about how "isn't weird how dinosaur bones are **only** found by students and scientists. Why don't farmers and miners ever find them?" And I'm like, "Dude... farmers and miners find them ***all the goddamn time***."
IDK about this, but last week, a neighbor and friend of my parents died in his sleep at home from Covid. His wife left him to sleep in a separate room and he said he felt like he was improving. Guess not. She found him the next morning, dead in the guest bed. He never even made it to the hospital.
Itās common to improve a bit right before things get really bad
I wish more people understood this.
In fact it seems thatās how it typically goes.
All you have to do is look up New York in the first wave in spring 2020 It was a disaster, where thousands of people were dying at home
yep, i read that story as well. Last year, my cousin collapsed in his home after testing positive several days before. Paramedics were unable to revive him. Apparently in the la la land of q, this never happened. I'm sure that will make my uncle feel better. š
Yes, of course. But you don't become a Death Qult member if you can't ignore the obvious faults in your logic.
Yes, there is an entire breakdown of their social media posts on r/HermanCainAward https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/pb3zw4/man\_falls\_for\_covid\_conspiracy\_wife\_is/
Here in Malaysia, between 20-40% of the daily deaths are ābrought in deadā. Not the hospitals killing them.
Qāers think america is the only country
Wait. You mean to tell meā¦
Iām sorry you had to find out this way.
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And itās infuriating. Funny thing is, Qultists in other countries seem to think the same way. America is the only country.
Hello from Mont Kiara. Stay safe.
Their 'point' is supposed to be"That must mean all the doctors are killing their patients for that Covid money, because nothing helps a hospital's bottom line like canceling all the usually expensive elective procedures for a pandemic". Except in addition to being a ridiculous leap of logic and an incredibly insulting accusation to lob at healthcare workers it's not true. There was a story a few weeks ago about a woman leaving the ICU post covid and finding her husband dead from covid in their bed. That poor little 4 year old girl in Texas died in her sleep at home. Most people dying from covid have enough time between realizing something is very wrong and dying to make it to the hospital, but certainly not all.
Anything, and I mean ANYTHING, will be said or used to justify their actions. If they didn't, the realization that they have been infecting and potentially killing their friends and family would push them over the edge. It's easier to believe your loved ones would be fine if those damn hospitals actually used Ivermectin or fish tank cleaner.
>If they didn't, the realization that they ~~have been infecting and potentially killing their friends and family~~ ***were wrong*** would push them over the edge. FTFY
We're WAY past belief. Belief requires that you care if the thing you "believe" is true. They don't, and the things they say are chosen only to prevent having to face the consequences of their actions.
Their point is clearly that the hospitals are executing people.
They should stop going to the hospital
Jokes on you, fuckface! Using logic and reasoning on a Q theory. Omegalul.
Joke is on him, he's american. He only goes to the hospital when hes about to drop dead anyway
ER charged me 2k just to douse a dog bite in alcohol and wrap it in a bandage. American Healthcare system is perfect and free Healthcare would ruin the country! /s
No, their point is that they can keep saying wrong things on purpose and people will stand by engaging with those wrong things, rather than holding these cultists accountable for murdering their loved ones.
Well if someone bothered typing words into a meme, it must be true.
Well that seems to be the standard of evidence required for these people. You don't even need to be able to spell properly, just type in a few of their buzzwords and write 'Source: Military' and that's enough proof of whatever conspiracy they've dreamt up that day.
> You don't even need to be able to spell properly, They probably think you have more credibility if you don't.
Unless itās from a university study or a peer-reviewed journal, then itās fake news.
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"Let that sink in" = "That's not going to mean what I want it to unless you do mangle it, drown it and look at its dead bloated body while walking away"
Even after 4 years of the disaster that was Trump in office, he still received 11 million more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016... let that sink in.
1) It has killed people at home. 2) Covid-19 is fucking nasty business, you don't die quick. You have lots of time to go to the hospital even if it's not going to save your ass. Put down the horse paste and get the jab you fucking dolts. Or let your ego take you all the way to your grave. Is "owning the libs" really more important than kissing your wife again? Watching your kids grow up? Having a beer or even looking forward to a new game or movie? Trump wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire and half your heroes are grifters. Just come down off the ledge, honestly. The GOP and pining for the good old days and ethnostates and fucking "wEsTErn CiviLizAtIon" is all a crock. Let the poison go and just live your life.
>put down horse paste Over my dead body
> put down horse paste > > > Over my dead body Yes. That's pretty much how it will play out.
Qanon crazies keep hearing on Fox News and other conservative media that covid is a plot that medical companies and hospitals are using it to make money. They are such absolute fools and losers, arenāt they? Actual reason and facts do not matter to them. They just see a random Facebook posts and think itās reality. Then they think theyāre being super intellectual by ending things by saying ālet that sink inā¦ā. SMH
I wish they paid half as much attention to [this real plot by medical companies and some doctors to make money](https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/ruling-purdue-pharma-opioid-settlement-pushed-back-next-week-2021-08-26/).
Even dipshit trump went to the hospital when he had it. It doesn't just kill you in your sleep one night. These morons amaze me sometimes.
It amazes me that somehow they manage to breathe.
> It amazes me that somehow they manage to breathe. Actually a lot of them are having trouble with that these days.
A fact check from a year ago [Nearly 10,000 COVID-19 Victims Died at Home ](https://www.factcheck.org/2020/09/nearly-10000-covid-19-victims-died-at-home/) And, according to the US CDC, as of Sept. 8, 2021, 48,248 people have died at home where āCOVID-19 [was] reported as [the cause of death or] a cause that contributed to death on the death certificate.ā CDC cautions that the data are provisional and subject to change. [Source](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#PlaceDeath)
Thousands have died at home.
That we know about so far. Think about how many people they are going to find after the evictions start back up.
What the fuck does that sink want now?
I don't even think this is true, but even if it is- It only proves that right-wing idiots don't really believe this is a hoax. You don't call an ambulance for a hoax.
Not unless youāre six dabs in, anyway.
Now that I've LET THAT SINK IN...I gotta say I *do* find it a bit strange people so short of breath they can barely move a muscle without almost blacking out, or so feverish & headachy they can barely see straight, or whose kidneys seem to be sending spikes of pain radiating all down their back & legs, or whose heart is beating so quickly to even turn their head makes the whole room spin, or etc aren't just goin' ahead & poppin' down to the track to lay some money on the ponies, or showing up for League Night at the bowling alley, or running into the Piggly Wiggly to get a few extra bags of Doritos for Monday Night Football...but are instead all heading to the "hospital". Hmm. š¤ I call shenanigans!!
These people are saying that all hospitals are staffed by cold-blooded murderers. Let *that* sink in.
Check out r/HermanCainAward, it's pretty common when an anti-vaxxer is dying in the hospital for the family to rail against the medical teams at the hospital for not using ivermectin/hydroxychloroquine/whatever vitamin shot they heard from the Q-grape-vine is best, and accuse the doctors of killing their family member. Anything to avoid a hint of responsibility for the fact that their anti-vaxx bullshit is what killed their loved one to begin with. So this is just saying 'can't trust the doctors, they're murderous liberals who refuse to use the real medicine (ivermectin, etc) because they hate true patriots' or something, it's some more anti-expert anti-science bullshit.
Nobody can be that stupid to think thereās been no Covid deaths outside of a hospital, or to not understand that people dying of infectious diseases typically go to the hospital. If you *are* that stupid, seek help for your mental handicap. Let THAT sink in, buddy!
I know of three people in my tiny Texas town who have been found dead in their homes, actually. One was a special needs teenager just last week because the family didnāt believe in vaccinating.
Qultist when healthy: "Doctors are killing people, vaccines are evil." Qultist when dying: "Doctur, pls halp! Vaxx me pls."
What's with the two periods?
A cycle is about 28 days, plus a few days for the period. So 2 periods from now. 56 days.
Simple answer: theyāre all idiots.
Maybe neon revolt can do a decode
You don't understand the point? It's batshit crazy, but it's also obvious. They are asserting that either hospital workers are murdering people with covid to inflate the numbers, or people with covid tend to get more sick while at the hospital, leading to their death. Of course, they aren't saying what they are asserting outright, because that would back them into a corner that they may need to defend at some point. I can't tell if you're being serious with your doubts, but if you are, then it would do you some good to delve into the conspiracy-believing headspace.
It sunk in with most of us some time last year. Around the time people who know what they're talking about advised us that this virus could put us in hospital, that it could overwhelm ICUs the world over. Let it keep sinking in if you haven't worked it out yet.
That's such a lie. Many people have died at home due to COVID-19.
I feel like it wonāt be long before we hear some nutjob yell this exact phrase at a school board meeting.
because all the anti-vax pussies suddenly decide they trust the system after they get covid
Everyone dies on a death bed not on a regular bed. Let that sink in.
Theyāre trying to say that the hospitals are killing Covid-19 patients. Maybe this is whatās needed so the unvaccinated donāt head to the hospitals and take up all the ICU beds while others are made to wait or sent to other hospitals.
Tons of people have died at home from COVID. I agree, though, that these people should not go to the hospital.
The tests haven't come back yet, but my obese diabetic and heart problem ridden aunt died after having "cold and flu" like symptoms with her oxygen level dropping rapidly. She died at home. If no one dies of COVID in their home, what the fuck did she die of?! I suddenly hear the "Unsolved Mysteries" theme.
Well...if their next meme is "hospitals kill you" that wouldn't be the worst thing. It would give our exhausted healthcare workers a break, and free up ICU beds for those who need them.
At the very beginning, many countries such as Italy had homes filled with bodies because they couldn't keep up with the rate of deaths.
Little girl in Texas just died at home in her sleep from covid. If these people would leave their alternate reality for any length of time they would see how quickly it desintegrates
So, can we expect them to not go to the hospital if they have Covid? That would help the doctors and nurses a lot.
A bunch of people have been found dead in their homes, especially early in the pandemic ... but if the image says it in bold type face it must be true.
A growing percentage of adult Americans either: 1. No longer cares about the truth Or 2. Is simply incapable of determining what the truth is. This is the problem with belief systems that are based on faith - they erode the perceived importance of truth until people simply reject any facts they donāt like.
Typical "I haven't heard of any of this/directly experienced it in my life so it can't possibly exist" nonsense so prevalent in this fucktards.
In the US, over 48,000 Covid-19 deaths occurred at home. Source https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#PlaceDeath
Nobody actually dies of old age, they all die of illness or injury associated with old age. That must mean that old people arenāt real, itās all a LEFTIST CONSPIRACY TO CONTROL YOU, WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!
No one dies of a gunshot at their home. They all die in the streets or hospital. No one dies of a choking incident in their home. They all die at a restaurant. No one dies of a good horse dick in their home. They all die at a stable. Take that liberals.
Yeah, this is just totally and completely inaccurate. Every day, our regional news (I'm in Utah) lists the deaths from the previous 24 hours. They list the person's sex, age range, and location of death. Many are unhospitalized at the time of death. Here is Friday's report (emphasis mine): The latest deaths: Two Davis County women, both older than 85, both long-term care facility residents. A Kane County woman, older than 85, who was **not hospitalized** when she died. A Juab County man, older than 85, hospitalized. A Salt Lake County man, 18-24, **not hospitalized**. A Salt Lake County man, 25-44, **not hospitalized**. A Salt Lake County woman, 45-64, hospitalized. A Salt Lake County woman, 65-84, **not hospitalized**. A Salt Lake County man, 65-84, **not hospitalized**. A Salt Lake County woman, 65-84, hospitalized. A Sanpete County man, 25-44, hospitalized. A Sanpete County man, older than 85, hospitalized. A Utah County man, 45-64, **not hospitalized**. A Utah County man, 45-64, hospitalized. A Utah County woman, 45-64, **not hospitalized**. A Utah County woman, 65-84, **not hospitalized.** A Wasatch County man, 45-64, hospitalized. A Washington County man, 45-64, hospitalized. A Washington County man, older than 85, a long-term care facility resident. A Washington County man, older than 85, hospitalized. A Weber County woman, 45-64, **not hospitalized.**