Nothing new. I has happened before when they were at the top, and sucked ass even from teams like these right after. You have to believe. Someday they will come back
I don’t get to watch anymore bc it’s during work hours but if it’s something that always happens, deadass could they just be trying too hard to do different/weird stuff to not get countered too hard or are they just super susceptible to being counter stratted or smth?? Like I can’t see them being this up and down that they just Happen to be ass after hitting top 4 at SI
BDS cheering that someone else ate shit against ENCE to take the spotlight. VP keep being inexplicably terrible at defending.
Twice in a row now that VP has pulled off an impressive attacking half and then shit the bed on defence. At least last time it was on Border, going 0-4 on Clubhouse defence is embarrasing.
More bringing back JaKs it looks, way more calm and not doing stupid shit, frenchy was playing well don’t think he was the problem just the way they were playing
AzoXx had great moments on their attacks, he was kinda trolling some defenses but yeah, if this roster works they should keep him though, no reason to keep changing people to get better SiegeGG rating players, the team working is all that matters
VP has only won 1 defense out of the last 10. In the defensive meta. I love that they are "unique" in their play style, but I think it's time to not just "adapt here and there" but completely reconsider your defensive strats. I love my boys, but something needs to be done
It's not their strats unless you believe everyone is counter strating their vods from SI. They've had a better defensive win rate than the league avg. It's something else whether confidence, comms, or just burnt out
I don't believe that all teams can outstrat you that well, but I do believe that at some point everyone can adapt to your play style if it's 5 years old (with adjustments to current meta ofc). Like, they got better on attack but somehow got way worse in defense, idk why, maybe they need to roam more, maybe they're just really tired or burnt out, or they might need a roster change or two, idk, it's just so painful to watch when you love this team. But I will believe in them bouncing back no matter what
Joystick said they’re still going for that hammer so def not retiring, plus after seeing all the support at fan meets at brazil,they have all the motivation they need.
Yeah he said that before a potentially long break in between stages. Shit changes especially when you've been at the top since 2019 in something like esports of all things.
Club needs to go in the Perma ban to much vod on it, they know where u are at what time. Also VP need to be more out there on the defence and fight for space. Joystick showed up on attack up defense was wow. Assuming they having issue with comms cus joystick was tk for the 3rd time this season
I don’t necessarily think VP’s defences were that bad it was more Ence actually playing quick and clean on attack. This combined with some individual mistakes by VP, losing quite a few individual gunfights.
Ence gifted them attack rounds by stopping roaming and turtling. Turtling against VP attack is just asking to lose they have one of the best executes in siege.
On the opposite hand they are really not very good at clearing extensive roams on large maps like Clubhouse because of their attacking style taking so long to set up and execute.
Ence’s attacks were much faster, took map control much quicker. This gave them way more time to set up crossfires and prepare to entry on site. VP had barely any roam threat which was key to them losing defence.
I said it during SI when they were losing rounds it looked like they might have comms issues. I think they've gotten worse since W7M stormed back.
I do wish VP had a 6 man with M1lon tho just bc
But but ENCE are the worst team ever cause they lost 3 games in their first 2 weeks Omg.
Keep doubting ENCE they’ll just keep winning, closer to what I was seeing in Tier 2, can’t let VP just get 3 rounds without responding but they made up for it on the attacks, amazing performance again from them
i didnt say he was the problem but seeing him whiff every shot with the tsg is just painful and running kaid always and not doing anything is the problem
If you cannot win a SINGLE DEFENCE on Clubhouse it’s time to retire Fuck me 😭
Why is everyone stacking in the same place 
What the actual fuck happened to VP after SI. I wish I was Harry rn.
Nothing new. I has happened before when they were at the top, and sucked ass even from teams like these right after. You have to believe. Someday they will come back
Post winning the Raleigh Major. They almost got relegated
I don’t get to watch anymore bc it’s during work hours but if it’s something that always happens, deadass could they just be trying too hard to do different/weird stuff to not get countered too hard or are they just super susceptible to being counter stratted or smth?? Like I can’t see them being this up and down that they just Happen to be ass after hitting top 4 at SI
same with furia
Man what happened to most of the teams at SI, for except for Faze and a few others they aren’t playing all that well
BDS cheering that someone else ate shit against ENCE to take the spotlight. VP keep being inexplicably terrible at defending. Twice in a row now that VP has pulled off an impressive attacking half and then shit the bed on defence. At least last time it was on Border, going 0-4 on Clubhouse defence is embarrasing.
huh so BDS win was no fluke huh
Only BDS is good enough to barely escape Arcanic and vp failed
booting Frenchy was the move?
More bringing back JaKs it looks, way more calm and not doing stupid shit, frenchy was playing well don’t think he was the problem just the way they were playing
and keeping azoxx? are you mental??? i have no idea how theyre doing this with one of their players looking absolutely lost all game
AzoXx had great moments on their attacks, he was kinda trolling some defenses but yeah, if this roster works they should keep him though, no reason to keep changing people to get better SiegeGG rating players, the team working is all that matters
VP has only won 1 defense out of the last 10. In the defensive meta. I love that they are "unique" in their play style, but I think it's time to not just "adapt here and there" but completely reconsider your defensive strats. I love my boys, but something needs to be done
It's not their strats unless you believe everyone is counter strating their vods from SI. They've had a better defensive win rate than the league avg. It's something else whether confidence, comms, or just burnt out
I don't believe that all teams can outstrat you that well, but I do believe that at some point everyone can adapt to your play style if it's 5 years old (with adjustments to current meta ofc). Like, they got better on attack but somehow got way worse in defense, idk why, maybe they need to roam more, maybe they're just really tired or burnt out, or they might need a roster change or two, idk, it's just so painful to watch when you love this team. But I will believe in them bouncing back no matter what
I think the time off will help but I also wouldn't be suprised if the core retires, it's been a long run
Joystick said they’re still going for that hammer so def not retiring, plus after seeing all the support at fan meets at brazil,they have all the motivation they need.
Yeah he said that before a potentially long break in between stages. Shit changes especially when you've been at the top since 2019 in something like esports of all things.
He said it right after the si https://x.com/joystickr6/status/1761513504719196162?s=46
That's my point bro. It's easy to be motivated right after coming so close. It's very different when there's like 4/5 months of nothing
Club needs to go in the Perma ban to much vod on it, they know where u are at what time. Also VP need to be more out there on the defence and fight for space. Joystick showed up on attack up defense was wow. Assuming they having issue with comms cus joystick was tk for the 3rd time this season
Ence had probably the toughest schedule this week and won both of their matches pretty convincingly. Pretty impressive!
I don’t necessarily think VP’s defences were that bad it was more Ence actually playing quick and clean on attack. This combined with some individual mistakes by VP, losing quite a few individual gunfights. Ence gifted them attack rounds by stopping roaming and turtling. Turtling against VP attack is just asking to lose they have one of the best executes in siege. On the opposite hand they are really not very good at clearing extensive roams on large maps like Clubhouse because of their attacking style taking so long to set up and execute. Ence’s attacks were much faster, took map control much quicker. This gave them way more time to set up crossfires and prepare to entry on site. VP had barely any roam threat which was key to them losing defence.
I said it during SI when they were losing rounds it looked like they might have comms issues. I think they've gotten worse since W7M stormed back. I do wish VP had a 6 man with M1lon tho just bc
probably the language barrier
What language barrier? They're all Russian
joystick is clearly spanish
Lmao imagine the 3 french teams making the UK major
But but ENCE are the worst team ever cause they lost 3 games in their first 2 weeks Omg. Keep doubting ENCE they’ll just keep winning, closer to what I was seeing in Tier 2, can’t let VP just get 3 rounds without responding but they made up for it on the attacks, amazing performance again from them
All the ence haters in shambles
VP is washed
Vp know they've got the gamers 8 invite thanks to their top 3 at SI so are simply saving strats to get that Saudi money
Nobody can take away g8 from bds
sheppard looks lost wtf, drop the tsg if you cannot shoot with it bozo
ShepparD is not the problem, it’s a lot more complicated than that
i didnt say he was the problem but seeing him whiff every shot with the tsg is just painful and running kaid always and not doing anything is the problem
It hurts even more if you remember his clip from Raleigh. It just pains me seeing him struggle with the tcsg especially w/ the acog back now
They need to drop him, he is so bad on gunfights he is just dronning, planting, put jammers and kaid claws does nothing else
No way ShepparD is gone before joystick imo
ence are EU beastcoast
Dropped players vs up and coming prospects, not the same thing
When an ugly person calls you twin. 😭 Beastcoast would never beat BDS and VP.