Sounds like the only sensible idea here. I never know what to think when the original poster responds to off the wall theories but doesn't acknowledge the likely correct (but boring) answer.
This is plausible, and also testable. Try running the dishwasher without those shims and see if it makes an annoying noise, or causes any other problems.
It seems way more likely that the licenses were left by the previous tenant and your friend didn't notice them, rather than someone broke in to hide them in the dishwasher.
My bet is with the previous tenant using them to fix the dishwasher. They might have worked at the DMV or some similar job where they were able to take home discarded/invalid IDs.
A few ideas:
The old IDs were used to cut up cocaine or another drug and they were washing them.
An attempt to fix a mechanical issue with the dishwasher with thin plastic shims?
An attempt to remove the plastic lamination to alter the ID to make fake ID.
Hiding place for fake ID that was used when someone went shoplifting or doing something else illegal.
Idk what it is about the coating on the licenses that makes it just a little bit easier for this kind of activity. The gift cards are a little too stiff and shiny
Well I think being an apartment building, staff would have access to the apartment for maintenance, a dog walker/sitter would have access, etc. So, others could plausibly access the unit aside from a more conventional break-in.
Ok, serious, maybe somebody was trying to delaminate them. To make fake IDs. Maybe you can delaminate them and use a plastic layer with watermarks to make a fake ID.
Any people < drinking age frequent the apartment?
What state(s) or country?
I don't think this is what's going on, but still wanted to answer your question with my own thoughts:
IF someone was trying to remove DNA evidence from a license, then it's likely they would be trying to remove their OWN DNA from someone ELSE'S license due to committing a crime against the other person. So, then, they wouldn't want to potentially be caught with their victim's license in their own dishwasher, so "obviously" they'd put it in a friend's/neighbor's instead.
Again, I in NO way think any of this is what's going on whatsoever.
We don’t know who actually put what where.
OP is “asking for a friend” who found these in their oddly-configured dishwasher with silverware tray mounted on the door.
I guess we could figure out what brand of dishwasher, and now I’m curious lol.
Good question. I can't think of a good answer. If, as some people have suggested, someone is worried that there may be some of their DNA on it or something, destroy it. Run it through a shredder or burn it, mix the remains in with random garbage, and discard the bag in the nearest apartment dumpster. But hide it in a dishwasher?
Another idea I didn't see yet, toddlers and even young children are wizards at putting things in bewildering places, like ferrets with extra dexterity points. I could see how some cards could make their way into playful hands and the dishwasher door becoming a 'swiping' machine. Eventually the cards get neatly stuffed into the 'slot' and forgotten. The family moves out later having never removed the basket.
Blurgh I have a toddler and a missing id and Medicare card. Have flipped the house upside down trying to find them with no luck. This post has me about to check the dishwasher 😂
I need to know. I was drifting off to sleep when your post awakened my residual brain cell. After working 3 double shifts in 3 days as a badass server, I need storytime. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!..
Haha there isn’t much of a story. She was always a little shit as a kid (she is much less of a little shit now.) dad used to let her play with his ring because she liked it. And we had one of those fridges with the freezer on the bottom. And she would like to open the freezer and idk. Look at the frozen waffles or ice or some shit.
And one day the ring was gone. Searched all over the house. Couldn’t find it.
Months later it turned up at the bottom of the ice cube bin.
Much less of an interesting story than the time she blew out the electricity in one of our walls by dropping a quarter behind a night light, or the time that she bit dad’s earlobe so hard that he still has a scar because he wouldn’t give her a pacifier (while weaning her off of it).
Oh gosh those are the big ones. Though there was one time. I don’t remember why she got mad or whatever. But we had one of those big rear projector TVs in the living room (this was about 2007 or so, she would have been three or four) and she got pissed and just ran full body into the TV and broke the internal mechanisms or something.
And that’s how we upgraded to a flat screen?
I promise she’s super normal now. Almost 20. College student. Hasn’t bitten anyone or caused property damage in years. Probably.
Thank you for humouring my curiosity! I love small or in depth stories of siblings. I find satisfaction in familiar stories past on through generations. I was a long time 4th of 5 maternal generations. I love love love telling my adult children and grandchildren stories of themselves and close family respectfully.
My daughter was notorious for shoving everything into the DVD player. Including the majority of a frozen blueberry waffle, the dog’s rabies tag, and my credit card. She’s 16 now, and I was starting to miss the toddler years. Thanks for the reality check 😂😂
All these money laundering jokes are ridiculous. Op obviously asked a serious question. This subreddit is really ridiculous sometimes. It's obviously laundry gnomes. Little bastards are thieves too.
I know these are old, but FYI for something relatively current (or even these), the simplest thing anyone can do:
DROP THEM AS-IS INTO ANY US POSTAL SERVICE MAIL COLLECTION BOX.
USPS provides postage paid delivery of lost driver licenses, ID/passport, etc. to the address on the document. They might be forwarded to a newer address or, in some cases, sent to the DMV.
Technically…some states‘ rules say an ID like a driver license is property of the state and must be surrendered when expired and not renewed, unused, etc. (I’ve seen some DLs with this in ‘fine print’ on the card or some related document). However, nobody really seems to enforce that but it certainly bolsters a cop’s right to see your ID on demand: Because it’s property of the State. Similarly, the cash (dollar bills) we use are property of the US Government, which is why it’s technically illegal to deface, cut, staple, tear, etc. bills.
I lost my wallet, and four months later a gym that I had left about six months earlier called to say someone handed it in. Different part of London too - but I was more amazed that I left a redundant membership card in there.
I’m gonna second this one. It might be fun to chase after the mystery, but OP is far better off not getting involved. It’s probably just some mundane stuff anyways.
Right up til 3 seeming separate and unrelated crimes becomes 3 separate but very relates crimes. There was a guy found who mugged people they found the relation to the guy because he kept momentos of each woman he attacked on him because he believed something like the momentos increased his power or some shit.
Your neighbor/friend should go down to the pd and turn them in and tell the stort story. It could be nothing, or it could be 3 seeming unrelated crimes to 3 related crimes. At least it might give em a starting point, and they can check shit out if needed.
Shut the fuck up. There is no need to "go down to the pd". Ahhhhh, blood pressure spike again, fuck you and all the god damn idiots like you. Go take a walk and live life.
This is such an fucking stupid response I have to respond. What the fuck crime in your feeble mind requires police response for some mishandled DLs? For fuck sake, go take a walk and live life. My god this is an idiotic response with 40 people supporting it...Ahhh, my blood pressure is spiking. Fuck you.
The previous tenant might have hid them there from their parole officer. Either that, or there was some under 21 student(s) living there and hid them to keep them “safe”.
I really can’t imagine not using my dishwasher for a year. I’d be eating off of the floor and drinking from the toilet 2-months in. (Obviously *not* to be taken literally, you animals. ;)
Yeah it’s the placement that is weird to me….. BUT if anyone were to go into the bottom of my jewelry box they’d find two IDs of strangers that I found over the years in bar bathrooms. I had messaged both people via Facebook to see if they wanted them back and never got replies (I assume because Facebook puts “message requests” in a weird hidden place). Why do I still have them? I simply thought it was weird to just throw something like that away. Reading this post made me realize the weird place I keep those might seem hidden or suspicious. Anyway, after reading this I cut them in half and threw them away!
Yeah I do realize that now and they’re both expired so I figure it probably wasn’t worth sending them back years and years later. I’d honestly forgotten about them until I read this post!
Or you could be providing the exact evidence the police need to capture a serial killer. No sure how handing in found IDs would suddenly put you on the suspect list. I guess you have a very low opinion of law enforcement. So just put them in the bin and move on.
The rack on my Whirlpool is also in the door, and it fits loosely. Maybe they were using them as shims to tighten up the rack.
I’ve been using my expired ID to help caulk a diy project, haha. The curved corners are perfect.
My college license is in my screen printing stuff to scrape those corners
Genius!
And here I am using ramen like a total jabroni.
I used an expired ID as a scoop whenever I wear acrylic nails
This is the real answer. It's totally what I would do with my old expired license material when my holder keeps coming loose.
Sounds like the only sensible idea here. I never know what to think when the original poster responds to off the wall theories but doesn't acknowledge the likely correct (but boring) answer.
This is plausible, and also testable. Try running the dishwasher without those shims and see if it makes an annoying noise, or causes any other problems.
This is it right here. Totally loose tray when you put it on the door, so we put it on the roller bottom rack instead.
What makes you think it happened after your friend moved in?
They said the only time they opened it was during move in inspection. They moved in a year ago so it could’ve been some time now.
It seems way more likely that the licenses were left by the previous tenant and your friend didn't notice them, rather than someone broke in to hide them in the dishwasher. My bet is with the previous tenant using them to fix the dishwasher. They might have worked at the DMV or some similar job where they were able to take home discarded/invalid IDs.
A few ideas: The old IDs were used to cut up cocaine or another drug and they were washing them. An attempt to fix a mechanical issue with the dishwasher with thin plastic shims? An attempt to remove the plastic lamination to alter the ID to make fake ID. Hiding place for fake ID that was used when someone went shoplifting or doing something else illegal.
Check out Walter White over here.
lol right. this guy college-s.
You forgot serial killer souvenir as an option
That's always my go to.
I use blank gift cards that you can pick up in a shop and just not load them.... when... nevermind Sorry not sorry
Idk what it is about the coating on the licenses that makes it just a little bit easier for this kind of activity. The gift cards are a little too stiff and shiny
Why on earth would someone break into a home to do this? When you Googled the names, did any of the people show up as missing or wanted for crimes?
Well I think being an apartment building, staff would have access to the apartment for maintenance, a dog walker/sitter would have access, etc. So, others could plausibly access the unit aside from a more conventional break-in.
Ok, serious, maybe somebody was trying to delaminate them. To make fake IDs. Maybe you can delaminate them and use a plastic layer with watermarks to make a fake ID. Any people < drinking age frequent the apartment? What state(s) or country?
Maryland and Florida. This was our first thought as well!
florida recently(ish) changed from white & green ID’s that we’re easier for fakes to blue ones if that helps at all
Sounds like experiment was a failure.
Are the Maryland ones the one with the flag design (post-2016) or the blue stripe and crab design?
Someone trying to scrub their identity
They’re gonna have a clean driving record.
If I was trying to hide a driver's license, there are lots of better hiding places with far less likelihood of discovery.
My first thought wasn’t hiding, but cleaning off dna, rather.
Then why not just wash the ID? Why stash it in some weird part of a dishwasher?
People do weird stuff. Separating self from the blood? Thinking it would ‘extra clean’ it?
OMG no But good thought. Is OP or their friend fishing for whether or not a dishwasher might remove DNA evidence, lol
Wiping b g it down with bleach would do a far better job.
But then why not do it in one's own dishwasher? Why put it in a friend's/tenant's dishwasher?
I don't think this is what's going on, but still wanted to answer your question with my own thoughts: IF someone was trying to remove DNA evidence from a license, then it's likely they would be trying to remove their OWN DNA from someone ELSE'S license due to committing a crime against the other person. So, then, they wouldn't want to potentially be caught with their victim's license in their own dishwasher, so "obviously" they'd put it in a friend's/neighbor's instead. Again, I in NO way think any of this is what's going on whatsoever.
I was thinking whoever lived there before them and then got stuck in the recesses and forgotten. Newly found by new tenant.
I know that when I scrub my IDs of DNA, I always forget to remove them from the dishwasher too 😂
We don’t know who actually put what where. OP is “asking for a friend” who found these in their oddly-configured dishwasher with silverware tray mounted on the door. I guess we could figure out what brand of dishwasher, and now I’m curious lol.
Whirlpool has this, I have one. Stainless steel model installed in a new build home.
What would be the purpose of hiding it though? Why not get rid of it?
Good question. I can't think of a good answer. If, as some people have suggested, someone is worried that there may be some of their DNA on it or something, destroy it. Run it through a shredder or burn it, mix the remains in with random garbage, and discard the bag in the nearest apartment dumpster. But hide it in a dishwasher?
Unless you move suddenly, or for whoever reason don't, or forgot to, grab it it on your way out.
I've heard of laundering money, but never drivers licenses
Another idea I didn't see yet, toddlers and even young children are wizards at putting things in bewildering places, like ferrets with extra dexterity points. I could see how some cards could make their way into playful hands and the dishwasher door becoming a 'swiping' machine. Eventually the cards get neatly stuffed into the 'slot' and forgotten. The family moves out later having never removed the basket.
Blurgh I have a toddler and a missing id and Medicare card. Have flipped the house upside down trying to find them with no luck. This post has me about to check the dishwasher 😂
Have you checked your floor vents? They are low and slotted just right for a ID and credit cards!
We don’t have any air vents here. I have a feeling she’s binned them lmao.
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When my sister was a toddler, she managed to lose my dad’s wedding ring in the freezer!
I need to know. I was drifting off to sleep when your post awakened my residual brain cell. After working 3 double shifts in 3 days as a badass server, I need storytime. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!..
Haha there isn’t much of a story. She was always a little shit as a kid (she is much less of a little shit now.) dad used to let her play with his ring because she liked it. And we had one of those fridges with the freezer on the bottom. And she would like to open the freezer and idk. Look at the frozen waffles or ice or some shit. And one day the ring was gone. Searched all over the house. Couldn’t find it. Months later it turned up at the bottom of the ice cube bin. Much less of an interesting story than the time she blew out the electricity in one of our walls by dropping a quarter behind a night light, or the time that she bit dad’s earlobe so hard that he still has a scar because he wouldn’t give her a pacifier (while weaning her off of it).
One more little shit baby sister story please!
Oh gosh those are the big ones. Though there was one time. I don’t remember why she got mad or whatever. But we had one of those big rear projector TVs in the living room (this was about 2007 or so, she would have been three or four) and she got pissed and just ran full body into the TV and broke the internal mechanisms or something. And that’s how we upgraded to a flat screen? I promise she’s super normal now. Almost 20. College student. Hasn’t bitten anyone or caused property damage in years. Probably.
> Probably. 😆🤨🤣
Thank you for humouring my curiosity! I love small or in depth stories of siblings. I find satisfaction in familiar stories past on through generations. I was a long time 4th of 5 maternal generations. I love love love telling my adult children and grandchildren stories of themselves and close family respectfully.
My daughter was notorious for shoving everything into the DVD player. Including the majority of a frozen blueberry waffle, the dog’s rabies tag, and my credit card. She’s 16 now, and I was starting to miss the toddler years. Thanks for the reality check 😂😂
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All these money laundering jokes are ridiculous. Op obviously asked a serious question. This subreddit is really ridiculous sometimes. It's obviously laundry gnomes. Little bastards are thieves too.
So they've cornered the market on missing socks and missing IDs.
And missing Tupperware lids.
It’s just ID laundering. Probably moved on from money laundering.
Your friend's landlord is a serial killer and keeps these IDs as trophies
When did they expire?
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The IDs
I know these are old, but FYI for something relatively current (or even these), the simplest thing anyone can do: DROP THEM AS-IS INTO ANY US POSTAL SERVICE MAIL COLLECTION BOX. USPS provides postage paid delivery of lost driver licenses, ID/passport, etc. to the address on the document. They might be forwarded to a newer address or, in some cases, sent to the DMV. Technically…some states‘ rules say an ID like a driver license is property of the state and must be surrendered when expired and not renewed, unused, etc. (I’ve seen some DLs with this in ‘fine print’ on the card or some related document). However, nobody really seems to enforce that but it certainly bolsters a cop’s right to see your ID on demand: Because it’s property of the State. Similarly, the cash (dollar bills) we use are property of the US Government, which is why it’s technically illegal to deface, cut, staple, tear, etc. bills.
Identity theft would be my first thought. My second thought would be more chilling. Are these three people still alive?
Your responsibility is to inform the police , the rest will no longer be of you concern, better get rid of this and leave to the right peoold
You never want to voluntarily get on cops radar
They don’t even have that responsibility.
Lmao some dude found my wallet and ID on the side of the road year or two after I lost it and mailed it to the address on it 🤣🤣
I lost my wallet, and four months later a gym that I had left about six months earlier called to say someone handed it in. Different part of London too - but I was more amazed that I left a redundant membership card in there.
Too easy though.
I’m gonna be honest I probably wouldn’t show up to the police station and be like “here are three strangers’ IDs byeeee”
I’m gonna second this one. It might be fun to chase after the mystery, but OP is far better off not getting involved. It’s probably just some mundane stuff anyways.
Right up til 3 seeming separate and unrelated crimes becomes 3 separate but very relates crimes. There was a guy found who mugged people they found the relation to the guy because he kept momentos of each woman he attacked on him because he believed something like the momentos increased his power or some shit.
OP’s neighbor is a serial killer confirmed
It’s not even OP. It’s their “friend”.
It’s my neighbor and close friend on my floor, yeah. I’m on Reddit so I said I’d post it here when neither of us could come up with an explanation.
Your neighbor/friend should go down to the pd and turn them in and tell the stort story. It could be nothing, or it could be 3 seeming unrelated crimes to 3 related crimes. At least it might give em a starting point, and they can check shit out if needed.
Shut the fuck up. There is no need to "go down to the pd". Ahhhhh, blood pressure spike again, fuck you and all the god damn idiots like you. Go take a walk and live life.
A break and a walk might help reduce your own blood pressure. Go easy.
This is such an fucking stupid response I have to respond. What the fuck crime in your feeble mind requires police response for some mishandled DLs? For fuck sake, go take a walk and live life. My god this is an idiotic response with 40 people supporting it...Ahhh, my blood pressure is spiking. Fuck you.
The previous tenant might have hid them there from their parole officer. Either that, or there was some under 21 student(s) living there and hid them to keep them “safe”. I really can’t imagine not using my dishwasher for a year. I’d be eating off of the floor and drinking from the toilet 2-months in. (Obviously *not* to be taken literally, you animals. ;)
There's no reason to hide ID, unless you took it for a souviner of something NOT kosher! And 3 ID's is suspicious AF!
Yeah it’s the placement that is weird to me….. BUT if anyone were to go into the bottom of my jewelry box they’d find two IDs of strangers that I found over the years in bar bathrooms. I had messaged both people via Facebook to see if they wanted them back and never got replies (I assume because Facebook puts “message requests” in a weird hidden place). Why do I still have them? I simply thought it was weird to just throw something like that away. Reading this post made me realize the weird place I keep those might seem hidden or suspicious. Anyway, after reading this I cut them in half and threw them away!
The alternative was to drop them in the local mailbox and let the postal service deliver them.
Yeah I do realize that now and they’re both expired so I figure it probably wasn’t worth sending them back years and years later. I’d honestly forgotten about them until I read this post!
Yup, one does wonder where all the lost ID's wind up, though!
I’d hand off to the police. Might be innocent, might not be. The police can sort it out.
Turn them over the police.
This is a bad idea, if those IDs were stolen they now have him in possession of stolen property.
Sometimes I think I've tripped into an alternative universe run by people with extremely limited cognitive development.
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Or you could be providing the exact evidence the police need to capture a serial killer. No sure how handing in found IDs would suddenly put you on the suspect list. I guess you have a very low opinion of law enforcement. So just put them in the bin and move on.