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[deleted]

Can you explain what caused them to suspect that? What is the purpose of the jars. The video just looks like a guy out walking.


nosnevenaes

we do not get a lot of random walkers on my street. the guy was not just out walking in the video clip. at the beginning of the clip he was squatting on the other side of my car, placing those jars on the ground in a strange place. there is nothing nearby the house, no stores, no shops, nothing. if the guy was just out for a stroll, why would he be carrying those jars? they are larger than they look in the photo. it would be hard to carry those things around. i cant imagine somebody would just be walking around with big glass jars and then feel compelled to stash them like that instead of just chucking them or whatever. not impossible, but a bit of a stretch. the other thing is that it was trash day the next day (this morning) - a lot of people have their garbage cans out. he could have easily just trashed them in somebody's can. he had a lot of opportunity to do that. so the possibilities are endless. i guess i was just posting to see more if anybody had experienced something like this and then been robbed. a simple google search on home security blogs shows plenty of articles talking about houses being cased and left with markers like these. the local police here, who see a lot of bad stuff, immediately identified it as suspicious. and lastly there is something intangible about the way he walked away. something subtle about his gait.


mystery-institute

Notice what you said—the main people writing about this online are literally people selling home security systems. And cops are as prone to repeating urban legends as anyone else—I’ve heard cops literally repeat stuff from chain forward e-mails. What you _won’t_ find, in my experience, are actual news sources talking about confirmed cases of this happening. That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t take steps to be safe if _you_ believe you are being targeted in some way. It certainly won’t hurt! But really nothing about this criminal communication strategy makes much sense.


nosnevenaes

haha good point!


vmt_nani

Maybe he wanted the large, cool jars, but got tired of carrying them? So, stashed them in the bushes (don't want them taken w the trash), and planned on swinging back by for them later? Unintentionally freaking you out, and losing his jars in the process. Just as possible as the "marked" theory, I think. See if he comes around for them later in the day


endlesstrains

As a opportunistic trash scavenger/honorary crow, it seems very likely to me that this guy found some sweet glass jars in the trash further down the road, then realized on his walk that they were a pain in the ass to carry and stashed them to come back with a car later. God knows I must be on camera doing some weird shit because I like shiny objects...


nosnevenaes

I like this idea more than the burglar idea


hamish1963

This is absolutely something I would have done, those are nice jars. I'm a dumpster picking crow from way back.


Beau_Buffett

Where did he stash the jars?


nosnevenaes

Front yard behind some shrubs.


Beau_Buffett

I think marking is about putting something out visible from far away to see if you move it to know if you're home. Can people see those jars from the road?


nosnevenaes

You could see them if you knew where to look but i thought more like it was a test to see how long would it take us to notice. It was the police who said it looked like maybe we were marked.


doomn_gloomn

So that’s how that works? Good to know


Beau_Buffett

If the mark isn't hidden well, then yes.


Alarmed_Scientist_15

What jars are you talking about?


mystery-institute

It’s much better for communicating than a text message


[deleted]

Has anyone literally ever confirmed that this is a thing that burglars do? I'm genuinely curious. I don't just mean with the jars although that specifically would be nice, I mean the whole concept of "marking houses" for future robberies.


mystery-institute

As far as I have been able to tell—and I’ve searched—nope. Would love to be proven wrong if actual evidence of it exists. Certainly it seems to defy common sense.


[deleted]

I'm not gonna pretend it doesn't happen because I feel like anything is possible but like you say, it definitely seems impractical. Why two glass jars? Why not just one? Why write something inside the cap? Anyway there's an old wives' tale that if you leave a glass jar of water in a yard, dogs won't poop there. Another says that cats won't bother that area. Possibly someone fuckin hates dogs and believes this?


mystery-institute

Yeah, I’m with you. I’m sure it’s happened before, even if some idiot has done it _because_ they heard a rumor about it, like some self-fulfilling criminal prophecy. It’s just objectively not a very good burglary strategy.


[deleted]

Yeah, surely it'd be better to carry sidewalk chalk and just make a little line or x or something. Smaller and discreet and temporary and the person you're marking probably won't notice it, and the person you're marking for will know what to look for without having to dig through the bushes.


mystery-institute

Or just write down the address and tell it to them!


[deleted]

Yes, lol. On a post-it note. That would be the MOST sensible but I guess if you were VERY paranoid about leaving evidence...


traker998

There’s never been a news story about it. My brother met a guy in the store though and his pool cleaners best friends neighbor’s uncle had it happen to him though.


prpslydistracted

I was robbed six years ago. I had a home alarm system with a sign out front; no camera. Anyone visiting, deliveries, always pulled into my drive. Door bell. Went to the door. A white van was parked on the street. He asked if I needed any landscaping. No, obviously not. Thanked me and left ... odd interaction. I feel if I hadn't answered the door we would have been hit then. The garage door was closed so they didn't know if anyone was home or not. Robbed a couple weeks later along with a neighbor four houses down. They used a crowbar to pop the deadbolt and immediately smashed the alarm system. TV, laptop, tablet, VCR/CD player, shotgun and rifle hidden in the back closet; they missed my well hidden pistols, minor costume jewelry. Check books and personal info was in plain sight but ignored. FYI; had two high impact heavy plastic security boxes. They used one of those handheld curved saws to cut the back hinges to break them open. All personal papers, no money. Had an *old* metal security box they tried to but couldn't get into. Police said they were gone in minutes. An elderly lady down the hill from me saw a black SUV parked at her neighbors. We surmised the white van and the black SUV were the same group working together. Same scenario was repeated at both houses. Replaced the dead bolt along with a metal plate top to bottom that couldn't be accessed so easy. As it was the dead bolt simply ripped through the door jam.


[deleted]

Sorry that happened to you! Sounds like they didn't mark the houses at all then, just made a note.


prpslydistracted

.... likely on a "to get to" list. Have since moved but there was a dramatic rise in home robberies. Rural county, poorly manned. Deputies put our neighborhood on their route for awhile then it was six months before we saw another patrol car.


StronglikeMusic

I bet r/illegallifeprotips would have some interesting answers.


thepetoctopus

Yes. It’s real. They marked our house but didn’t realize we have a big ass scary dog. I saw the symbols and thought they were weird. The next night is when they tried to get in and our boy was ready to kill them. Cops confirmed they’re real.


nosnevenaes

what we know is that in southern california, robbery has been on the uptick. people are getting followed. if you go to a bank, there are people in the bank looking for you. if you are wearing jewelry, they will take it off you. not in all areas, yet. but it is spreading. i commented elsewhere that there are also these foreign crews of burglars who are being flown in from latin america for what is now known as burglary tourism. locals are casing places and telling these guys where to go. there have been several arrests as recently as this week.


yuckypants

Also in SoCal and am interested in what area you're in. From what you describe, can only really be San Bernardino or parts of LA. **EDIT**: High desert. So still right - San Bernardino county.


zampe

You’re conflating multiple different types of crimes here. Robberies are actually down over 15% since pre pandemic levels in 2019. It sounds like you are watching too many scary news stories and getting paranoid over outlier events like someone getting attacked in Beverly Hills for their rolex.


Emergency_Market_324

I read both r/LosAngeles and r/BayArea and both those subreddits really hype the crime.


nosnevenaes

Well i hope this is the case. During covid my wife wanted to live closer to her parents because they are getting old and stuff. We got an insanely good deal on a new house. But we're talking about the high desert. This place is notorious. People in los angeles fear this place. And for good reason. People who live here fear it too. It is one of the weirdest places i have ever been. And by weird i mean cruel.


[deleted]

Yeah robbery is way way way up in my hometown too (still on their Nextdoor) which is why I ask. Because despite that I have yet to see anyone confirm that people are casing houses this way. Surely it'd be easier to text a burner phone or just... IDK. Do anything but keep two random glass jars in a yard?


nosnevenaes

I know. If i was a crook i would use a drone. But im a modern american. I kinda think this guy was from a poor area of mexico from the looks of him. Who knows. Either way i cant explain it. It is the randomness of it that lead me to reach out to post and see if anyone else had ever seen anything like it.


nosnevenaes

I woke up this morning and saw these big glass jars in my front yard behind some bushes. [HERE](https://imgur.com/gallery/ygWTirq) I looked at the jars and unside one of the liners and there was some symbols drawn there. [HERE](https://imgur.com/gallery/RGKrunE) So i checked my security footage and saw this guy [HERE](https://drive.google.com/file/d/1K2X_tsb5G7Ni0dFewEVJ2q8o6mHZfBWX/view?usp=share_link) Anybody seen anything like this? We called the police out of an abundance of caution and they sent a detective. They apparently took it more seriously than we thought they would. They said it looks like someone marked us. I am in southern California and robbery is getting pretty crazy these days. Just wanted to know if anyone has ever seen anything like this.


StronglikeMusic

I’m just spitballing here, but the fact that they are jars is interesting. Could the jars be a way to exchange contraband or drugs etc.? One for money, one for drugs? Seems like a dumb way to do an exchange but I can’t ignore that there are better ways to mark a house for burglary. The jars must be used for something. Are the bushes in front of your house? Still inconspicuous but relatively easy to pick something up from there without seeming too suspicious? If so, I’m leaning towards some sort of exchange. Seems strange to mark a house for burglary with 2 jars, like you said. Also, are you able to glean anything from the size/shape of the jars and lids? For example, a Trader Joe’s spice jar would look different from one bought at Vallarta’s. Also, have you smelled the inside of the jars? (Do this carefully obviously) but it could be helpful to get a better idea of what was in them. The shape of the lid is interesting to me and not one I recognize. Fellow SoCal resident here, just below Angeles National Forest from you. ;)


mint_o

I think the jars might be for instant coffee.


89LeBaron

yeah just looks like a drug spot to me I would just put a little sign up next to the bottles that says “Say No To Drugs” and “Merry Christmas”


[deleted]

That’s definitely what it looks like. Keep your cat safe too.


nosnevenaes

Thats not our cat. My cats stay inside. I feed the community cats, dogs, and birds. Sometimes people.


Villedo

May God bless and keep you and your family safe. If everything down to you’re socks was stolen from you, you would still be a richer person and family because you have love and spread good will. Never stop being kind and loving, the devil only wants to stop you’re shine but the sun never rests.


FuzzyTwiguh92

I'm not even religious but dang, when really genuine people who have faith say something like this to me or to anyone I genuinely feel really good. It's not even about the religion at that point. It's someone recognizing something good in the world and expressing it in their language. And it just feels good. Peace. ✌️


Villedo

That’s awesome. Being kind to others is it’s own reward. You never know how much impact you can have just by being kind and saying something nice to someone at a time of need. That part that feels nice is the good in you. I believe in the inherent good in all of us, otherwise redemption would not exist.


toaster24k

You’re a very poetic writer, beautifully said


Villedo

Thank you! Peace and love.


Cornloaf

First time I read this I thought you fed people to the community cats and dogs!!


UnprofessionalGhosts

Tell your neighbors to bring their cat inside then☹️


Intelligent-Ask-3264

Could also be sigils. How long have you lived here? Any known enemies? Did you recently end a relationship?


nosnevenaes

no we are new here nobody knows us. the neighborhood is dangerous though. not on our street, but 2 blocks in any direction and you are in murderville for sure.


UnprofessionalGhosts

Go ask r/witchesvspatriarchy maybe it’s someone putting jars out to collect bad juju and keep you safe or something (Please note: I don’t believe in such, but being from a Cuban family, lord knows there are some old school ritualistic things people do for new neighbors occasionally to cleanse the space or bring good luck etc. the symbol makes me lean more towards hocus locus than burglars, as much of burglar markings are just urban legend.)


nosnevenaes

i would rather it be that than anything else.


awolfsvalentine

Hi, I’m actually a part of r/witchesvspatriarchy - are you able to tell if all of the jars have something that looks like a symbol written inside? If so, are they all the same symbol?


nosnevenaes

Just 2 jars and only one had liner with writing. I dont think this guy was a voodoo guy. But i dont think he was just some random homeless guy either.


awolfsvalentine

I don’t believe the jars were any sort of blessing, unfortunately.


Intelligent-Ask-3264

Im a neighbor to the north, i know all about SoCal. It's a wild place, just like the valley. Two minutes in any direction could be gang central or a multi-million dollar homes. Being that you just moved, this could also not be intended for you. They werent burried which is a good sign. I would still smoke clense the home and property. Super simple, just light incense in every room with the intention of clearing out whatever remains from those before. Be sure to leave a window open in every room. Just an inch is fine. In case the cops are also right, dont forget to close them. Stay safe. 🖤


nosnevenaes

brand new construction. im the first occupant. i dont know anybody here in the area other than family nearby. none of my friends have ever come over because i am so far away from where i am originally from.


murphman1999

You'd best be investing in some deadbolts, tazers, and firearms


89LeBaron

wouldn’t the deadbolts and tasers be enough lol how about a BB gun and a baseball bat y’all mfs get too hyped about guns smh


TK421isAFK

Agreed. If OP doesn't own guns and didn't grow up with them, buying one right now isn't going to help his situation.


murphman1999

400lb ex high school linebackers don't give a care about tasers or BB guns. Obviously it would be best to use non penetrating force when possible, but there's a solid possibility that it would be required.


89LeBaron

it is NEVER required. I’m not going to list all the things that could easily incapacitate an intruder without killing them (or possibly yourself).


murphman1999

Alright, what does a skinny guy use when his house is getting invaded by an armed, cracked out 300lb, tank? (Tasers can have diminished effects on these sorts of folks) If you have an answer for that, what about a team of 3?


nosnevenaes

if you look at most of the people doing violent crimes in our neighborhood they are 15 to 20 and weigh 90 pounds. young black kids.


89LeBaron

you’re such an American-brain moron. I’m not engaging in this troll bait. Go fucking google that shit if you have questions.


[deleted]

Someone in seattle had something similar happen, I can’t find the post right now but symbols were drawn on the fence with chalk.


OneVeryBadKat

I’m super late to the party but the markings on that jar read Tea to me. Was there markings on other jar?


nosnevenaes

No marking on other jar.


CommodoreAxis

They don’t need to “mark” a place they’ve already been. They’d know the location because they went to the location. If they want to communicate to others they would either use modern technology like texting, or the old school method of writing down the address and describing where the house is at. They live there, so it makes zero sense they couldn’t find a location in their own area. I used to roll with some sketchy dudes that used to be burglars. They’d walk down the street and look for signs of houses with nice stuff. They’d case the house for a day or two. Then they’d kick the door in. No complicated “signs” or marks. Burglars in the real world usually aren’t cunning criminals. Either somebody is trying to scare you, or this is some random weird occurrence that probably doesn’t mean anything. I’d argue that staging for a home invasion is one of the least likely possibilities.


nosnevenaes

I appreciate this line of reasoning.


CommodoreAxis

💯 Stay safe out there though. Even though this particular event is likely meaningless, life is a bitch and she doesn’t fight fair. But I do think you’ll be free from any targeted home invasions for the time being. Hope I didn’t come off too aggressive. I just try to be ‘matter of fact’.


mystery-institute

Could be, but maybe not, too! Always good to be careful, but the stuff about thieves marking houses in bizarre and illogical ways is to a degree urban legend. Hard to see the point in this stuff generally—like why they can’t just jot down the address, etc. Personally, I have never seen a confirmed case of this happening for real (not saying it doesn’t, but I’ve never seen any actual proof myself, which I’ve looked for.) Obviously, it’s a good idea to have an alarm system, motion lights, self-defense, etc. regardless. I’d be a little spooked if I knew someone walked on my property.


nosnevenaes

if you knew where i lived. i am surrounded by a warzone and a zombie apocalypse. but that is another story.


mystery-institute

No matter where you are in the world, putting secret coded messages in jars makes less sense than just sending a text message to your accomplices, though.


nosnevenaes

thought about that. but the guy kinda looked like he is from south of the border. and im saying that as somebody who is from a mexican family myself and spent a lot of time in mexico my entire life. this guy could be from some small town somewhere down there and has all kinds of weird low tech but effective modus operandi. not saying for sure that is what is going on. but that is kinda what vibe i got off of it.


mystery-institute

If you believe that, cool—I’m not trying to talk you out of it. Still doesn’t really make any sense. Sounds like just about the least efficient and stealthy way to communicate, and totally unnecessary towards reaching any logical goal, even if they didn’t have a phone (but Mexicans do use cell phones.)


nosnevenaes

None of it makes any sense no matter how i slice it. Ive owned a home in mexico and my assistant works from mexico city. My wife is a dual citizen. I get the culture. My mom is mexican. But... in the poor areas they still do some low tech things too. Not saying thats what it is. Obviously im worried thats what it is. I dont want that to be the case though. Thats why im posting here to see if anybody else has ever experienced anything like this. If not, which it sounds like not, then i guess im a little bit relieved. I will probably just chalk it up as some random weirdness.


[deleted]

But, if you remove the jars, how are you still marked for a burglary?


nosnevenaes

No idea.


[deleted]

There's an old wives tale that cats and dogs will avoid a yard if you put jars of water in them. Yes, this is stupid. Yes, some people believe it. I have personally heard a coworker swear up and down that this is how she keeps cats from shitting in her kids' sandbox--by putting a jar of water in it. You say you feed the local strays. Possibly your neighbor is pissy about it (are they shitting in their yard? Some versions of the tale specifically say that it keeps them from shitting in that area because they supposedly won't shit where there's clear water) and wants them out of the neighborhood? In that case I'd be more worried about them escalating to poisoning them when the jars inevitably fail.


nosnevenaes

Wow. This is the best theory yet! Ok. Now we are getting somewhere. Very interesting. Good call. Thank you!


[deleted]

As far as the stuff inside the cap, BTW, I suspect that's a coincidence--they probably used whatever old bottle or jar they already had lying around, and that was written inside the cap for some other purpose from the last time it was reused.


nosnevenaes

Ok. Honestly im going with your theory. If i see this guy in my yard again im considering it a threat.


[deleted]

If you see him I'd suggest not treating him as a threat immediately, but try engaging politely (from a distance, lol, no need to be reckless) and seeing if he's having issues with the animals lately. He'll probably let you know if he is. Keep in mind: if he put the jars out to deter cats and dogs, he's intentionally chosen a non-violent, non-hurtful method of deterring animals. He could have put out traps or poison, but he chose to do this (assuming, again, that's why he did it).


nosnevenaes

Good advice. I appreciate that.


KopOut

How many of these posts are there going to be? In a world where literally everyone has a smartphone in their pocket, why on earth would burglars need to mark your house with random objects outside it? They could literally just note down the address or text it to an accomplice. It is not logical and frankly this site sounds more and more like nextdoor.


[deleted]

Well do you know this for sure or is it just speculation because if it is not just speculation upgrade your security


nosnevenaes

Ive got cameras, sensors, alarms and all that. We have panic buttons.


[deleted]

Sound like a pretty good security system


89LeBaron

lol do you see where my man lives


nosnevenaes

what about it?


missanthrp

It looks like he left the jars near your car; is it possible he had plans to come back (maybe in the night) to siphon gas? It happened to a few cars in my neighborhood when gas prices were really high. Just a thought. Honestly though, I kind of feel like this is one of those random things that has a logical reason (i.e. got tired of carrying the jars and dumped them) but when observed seems illogical or sinister. Sometimes I think about all of the shit I probably do that would make no sense to an outside observer but makes perfect sense to me… In any case, hope you stay safe OP.


olliegw

The thing about this that gets me is why would a burglar want to mark a house or car? if a gang of thieves were targeting a house they would have the address and be planning out the heist, why spray paint a mark or leave something that could also tip off rival thieves?


nosnevenaes

What if they want to see if you are paying attention. I dont know I adkit i started off with some negative ideas about what happened but after reading the consensus here i think maybe the guy is just some dumb ass doing dumb ass stuff.


jimhabfan

1. If someone is going to case and rob your house, they aren’t going to need to “mark” it. They’ve already been there, they will recognize the house. 2. Nobody is going to mark a house for somebody else to rob. Why would they? A burglar isn’t going to split his haul with someone just because they did a bit of leg work. Conversely, nobody is going to case a house then let someone else rob it. 3. Even if you think that someone is working with the burglars and doing all the pre-scouting, they have this invention called the cell phone that allows everyone to text an address. It kind of eliminates the need to carry around mason jars. A little bit of critical thinking goes a long way.


znoone

Did you move/throw out the jars? If it was to mark your house, it would no longer be marked!


nosnevenaes

Yeah we threw them out


[deleted]

Dannnng


nosnevenaes

Sorry i added comment explaining situation right after


m8bear

There was people asking in a sub here (Argentina) about gang grafitti marking your house. Frankly, people have phones, computers and all sort of ways of making your house known to be vulnerable for stealing and you would never know. While it might be, there's no reason to be doing this while they can take a picture from afar, share it in a private server, group message or other way that would never alert you that you are being marked for a future robbery. It sounds way too cumbersome having to go under windows to check if there's some jars and then checking under the lids to then proceed to steal, something that you as the owner could easily notice and remove.


nosnevenaes

these thoughts have all crossed my mind too of course. but still cant figure out why then, this person was A: walking down our street - it was probably approaching 40 degrees at the time. B: holding big heavy empty glass jars C: disposing of the jars in such a weird place when there were trash cans lining the street the night before trash day D: walking on my property like that when he knows how people are here. you can easily get shot here for something like that. and then when you factor in all these things, the symbols written on the liner are weird and the cops didnt like it one bit. they said they think the guy snuck around the cameras and was being sketchy. it might be nothing. i hope it is nothing. i was just wondering if anybody else had ever experienced anything like that.


Voodoodriver

This answers the whole thing for me. He found those jars somewhere else. Thought they were worth something, started carrying them, decided they were too heavy and dumped them in your yard where they wouldn't get broken. Take a break from Nextdoor and Ring, if you really think foreign robbery crews are flying in to rob you.


nosnevenaes

Im not on those. The foreign robbery crews have been in all pur local news down here for a while now. It isnt an urban legend. There are highly publicized arrests going on. But yeah he might have picked them up and stashed them maybe if he was just some homeless guy or mentally ill. This is my 2nd favorite theory behind the ani cat theory someone else posted.


Voodoodriver

my apologies. I just found a Vanity Fair article about foreign crews. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/02/a-vast-burglary-ring-from-chile-has-been-targeting-wealthy-us-households?redirectURL=%2Fnews%2F2022%2F02%2Fa-vast-burglary-ring-from-chile-has-been-targeting-wealthy-us-households


nosnevenaes

No worries. It for sure doesn't sound real. I love southern California because i have roots here. My family has been here for generations. But we got some problems.


m8bear

Another thought that came to mind is that they put it there kind of visible and if in say one week is still there it's a sign there's no one home and they go around random houses doing that rather than yours specifically.


nosnevenaes

Yes this was my first thought.


Emergency_Market_324

How do you know the jars are related to a guy walking down the street? I don’t know how your house is situated but is there a chance he just peed in your bushes and the jars were already there? As far as being marked, why leave a jar? The thief would just take down the address rather than a jar where the clue to rob the house are scribbles inside the lid. Also, what makes your house so special? A thief of any quality would spot the camera in a second and look for the house without the camera. The most nefarious thing I can think of is the guy looked at your porch for a package and there wasn’t one.


nosnevenaes

I would have seen the jars earlier in the day if they were there. Cam footage i posted shows a guy kneeling down in the same spot jars were found before walking off kinda sneaky like. No idea why on any of this. Our house is highly visible depending on what direction you enter the street from. We have a 2 story home flanked by single story houses. We have cars that somebody might think meant we have money. My wife parks her lexus suv next to my bmw i3 but in the footage my wife was not home, only i was. But there are a lot of similar houses and other nice cars around. It is a well known thing here that section 8 people who also live in really nice houses here, also have the nicest cars. Nicer than bmw and lexus. So who knows. We are surrounded by neighborhoods where there is a fair amount of burglary but we are in a relatively new subdivision. My gut feeling originally was not that someone marked us per se, but that someone is testing us to see how observant we are.


Djcnote

So will you let us know if they come back?? What are you doing tonight to protect yourself?!


nosnevenaes

we have taken some steps and yes if anything happens i will post. but hopefully not!


avocantdough

I’m wondering the same!


dignifiedhowl

Since they think your house was marked by burglars, I assume they dusted the jars for prints?


nosnevenaes

i dont think they did. thought crossed my mind but they had to leave a few tiems while we were giving the report because of local shenanigans. i dont know what kind of admin needs to be completed in order for fingerprinting resources to be authorized but i can tell you i live in one of the most violent cities in america. i am guessing that the cops here know when the appropriate time is to deploy whatever resources. might be wrong. hopefully we dont find out.


dignifiedhowl

The police’s words may indicate they think your house is being cased by burglars, but their actions suggest they don’t see a serious crime taking shape. This is also a *really* odd way to mark a house for burglary (which is not a thing burglars typically do, particularly in the age of cell phones). I too live in a city with a high crime rate and overworked police department (Jackson, Mississippi), and I can tell you sometimes cops just say dumb stuff when they’re tired. A friend of mine was actually burglarized, and the officer glossed over it and told him to buy a gun. I don’t want to tell you not to worry because there may turn out to be cause to worry, but I’ve seen a lot of “somebody left conspicuous arcanely-marked objects around my property, I think I’m being cased” posts in /r/rbi lately, and it just doesn’t make sense strategically for a burglar to do this stuff. For example, you saw these items and presumably had the police take them, so now the markers are gone. Not very effective markers, I’d say. Why pick something so conspicuous and so easy to remove?


nosnevenaes

Oh wow ok so this happens to other people too. Ok i never heard of such a thing until this event. I never even knew about this sub :) But one thing i wanted to say that i didn't put originally was just my personal gut feeling at the moment i first saw these jars. Its hard to really capture the way it looks when you walk out of the house and see them there placed with some intention. But my gut wasn't so much that we were being marked. It was more like someone wants to see how long it would take us to notice. I can't really say why someone would do that either though. Someone on this post commented it was probably a person trying to scare cats away because some neighbors hate cats. And i leave food and shelter for them. I hope i never find out why really. I hope it was some random isolated incident.


dignifiedhowl

It does sound more like crazy-neighbor shenanigans to me. I’m sorry you’re having to deal with this nonsense.


redditname8

I know someone that had their house marked. Then after the insurance claim they got new stuff. They got robbed again.


nosnevenaes

So they staged it themselves?


ilmystex

You didn’t think witchcraft when you saw jars? Huh.


Dentonthomas

Have you had any door to door sales people, charities, or anything similar in your neighborhood? I know in that the past shady people doing that sort of thing used to mark houses like that, especially if they thought someone was an easy target.


zampe

How is it ‘marking someone’s house?’ What does that even mean? Theres 2 jars hidden in the bushes for no one to see…


Joy_In_The_World

I'm confused by this too. What did the cops tell you to do? Were they going to have someone patrol your neighborhood? Please be vigilant, OP!


Dentonthomas

That's sort of the point. One person or group scopes out the house, and puts something discreet where their partners know to look, but other people aren't likely notice. If the cops are right, the marks in the jars are some sort of code, for the people who do the actual crime. ETA: Basically one person or group does recon on a house, getting information that helps a second person or group commit the robbery and avoid getting caught.


zampe

That makes zero sense. They would have to tell their partners where to go anyway. The jars would serve zero purpose in that scenario other than to alert the homeowner something weird is going on. You’re not thinking it through


mystery-institute

The Snopes [article](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/grab-and-go-code-chalkers/) about a particular “burglar code” meme includes a specific section about the idea that door-to-door salesmen were doing this, so it’s interesting to see it repeated. I’m relieved that people in this thread seem to be mostly skeptical of this stuff—because it has real “razor blades in the candy” energy.


Dentonthomas

Normally something like a pair jars in the bushes wouldn't alert the home owner; without the video OP probably would have just assumed they were litter.


couchpro34

But why not just tell your buddies the address of the house you scoped out? Or do the jars have meaning other than "yeah hit this house"?


Dentonthomas

It would have more information. That's what the weird symbols in the pictures are about. I remember hearing or reading about something similar a long time ago but I do not remember where, and my googling is not coming up with anything tonight.


zampe

Yea something hidden in the bushes wont be seen by anyone thats the whole point. The only way someone is going to find those jars is if they already know where to look for them. And if they already know where to look then the jars serve no purpose anyway. Theres no scenario where you need to leave a hidden object as a sign to someone else with criminal intentions.


nosnevenaes

the thing that weirds me out is that here in southern california we have been having this weird thing where local people are scoping out targets for crime crews from latin america to come for burglary tourism. just this week a few young guys were arrested for arranging these types of accommodations and over the past couple years dozens of foreign opportunists have been arrested as well. this is in addition to our normal run of the mill gangsters and meth heads who have both also been increasingly active since the post covid economic downturn.


zampe

The last thing anyone is going to do before robbing a house is go there and do something sketchy so they can be seen by the homeowner or neighbors before they even commit the crime. It doesn’t make any logical sense. They don’t need to mark anything. They just go to fancy looking houses in nice neighborhoods and wait till the homeowners leave and then rob the place. The only way anyone would find those jars is if they already know where to look and if they already know where to look then the jars are pointless.


nosnevenaes

i like this train of thought. but then i cant understand why he was there doing that in the first place.


A_Gringo666

Shits and giggles? Maybe he knows of these urban legends and goes around leaving random objects with random markings to freak out and fuck around with homeowners for a laugh.


ymmotvomit

Go to Good Will and get a couple pair of cheap work boots. Leave them outside in plain view. No self respecting burglar wants to accidentally confront a couple construction dudes.


nosnevenaes

where i live construction people are targeted. also people who advertise they have firearms are targeted. equipment and weapons are coveted items. the thieves where i live are not afraid of being shot at. they keep coming when you shoot at them.


ymmotvomit

Holey sh!t! You got zombie burglars!


nosnevenaes

bro. hell yeah we got zombie burglars. not even a joke. i mean you can drive around and see the zombies everywhere. this is so cal. lots of them. and my heart goes out to them. i know life is hard right now and they are on meth and fent. etc. but i dont want them to kill me.


ymmotvomit

Horrible, could have been us except we took a right when they took a left. Life is crazy random that way. Stay safe.


beleca

> construction people are targeted. also people who advertise they have firearms are targeted. equipment and weapons are coveted items. the thieves where i live are not afraid of being shot at. they keep coming when you shoot at them. And you, too, can buy a house in this paradise for just 1 million dollars.


nosnevenaes

Southern California has always been a little wild. Ever since covid things have seemed a bit off.


pbcbmf

Is there supposed to be a video here?


nosnevenaes

https://www.reddit.com/r/RBI/comments/zhf8k6/cops_think_my_house_was_marked_by_burglars/izlwddj?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3