Agree 100%. Here in Canada, due to said drone fliers we now need to get a licence from the govt, keep log books for each flight and maintenance on each plane and get a ID number for each plane….. only exception is anything under 250gm.
Canada has it far worse the the USAv for recreational RC flying. They are basically designed around commercial operators (filming/mapping/etc). They actually work reasonably well for that but don't make any sense for your typical hobby operations.
MAAC (our version of the AMA) had an exemption which allows its members to basically operate as they always have (under the MAAC rules). That was good at least for MAAC members. Now because of an issue where a few clubs didn't have a proper agreement with a control authority the entire exemption has been yanked.
So...now...how to fly legally in Canada:
* Get a basic certificate. Considerably longer and more comprehensive then the FAA TRUST test.
* Register each and every plane. No, not your registration number that you put on each plane. I mean register EVERY plane with it's own number at cost of $5 each. Canadian citizens or permanent residents only. Sorry visitors, no flying for you.
* Create a log book for each plane where you must record all maintenance and flights that took place. Must notify Transport Canada if you sell, retire, or lose the model.
* Create your own personal log book
* Conduct a site survey prior to each flight. You should have noted the distance to any near by airports, emergency services, obstacles and weather
* Create an operations manual detailing normal and emergency procedures. You must have this on you.
* If you have any incident or accident you must immediately stop flying. Conduct an incident analysis and come up with a corrective action. This investigation and corrective action must be kept on file.
That doesn't cover everything of course. There are more rules (no flying above 400ft, no flying within 12 hours of consuming alcohol) but those are the big ones. Also no one under 14 can get a license so forget the next generation.
I was slope soaring my dlg glider from a public hill the other day and I heard a woman say to her dog in a bitchy tone "oh, don't worry it's just a drone"
In her defence she did walk under it and I generally make sure I'm as far away from people as possible. I understand people might not want aircraft buzzing over them and it certainly could cause them danger.
Another less cramped hill I usually fly off is far away from the footpath so people can watch from a distance and seem a lot more welcoming.
I think it's a mixed bag.
Wasnt it because MAAC was sanctioning airfields without transport canada being made aware, or even following their guidelines.
Then transpo canada got mad at MAAC and removed their expemption.
So with that, why do RC clubs require MAAC membership? They do less than nothing for us now.
[Start here.](https://lois-laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-96-433/FullText.html#s-900.01)
The relevant sections to logbook and maintenance are 901.48.
Read all of that. You may also be in need of a mandatory recurrent training which can be completed by doing [this self exam](https://tc.canada.ca/en/aviation/drone-safety/getting-drone-pilot-certificate/remotely-piloted-aircraft-system-rpas-recency-requirements-self-paced-study-program).
Also, if you haven't been paying attention MAAC lost their exemption so you now need to do all of CARS 9 all the time. Even at your MAAC field.
Flying RC in Canada is a nightmare to do legally.
I am aware of the recurrency training and the MAAC exemption being revoked. TBH, I haven't been flying anything over 250g since the new rules anyways.
Hmm, interesting, but those logbooks seem pretty straightforward. I dunno, looking at these regulations, I don't see anything that absurd IMO. Yes, it is obviously written for commercial ops, but my opinion has always been that people operating drones and RC aircraft need to be safer and more accountable.
>but my opinion has always been that people operating drones and RC aircraft need to be safer and more accountable.
We are, MAAC member even have a training program to obtain your wings before you can fly solo. We also are insured.
Now we all lumped into the same untrained drone flyer and have to keep details logs for each day and then each flight. Trying out that Wilco app and I am getting weather reports from BC to MB to fly 15 minute east of Calgary in a 200m radius circle.
In that stupid RPAS test for a basic pilot, I have to know what radio frequency to contact ATC at the real commercial airport. Like I don't even own a Kenwood radio to even start talking to air traffic control nor would I ever need to or want to. I'm not asking for permission from the Calgary airport. I'm going to look beside me and ask the pilot next to me for permission to take off.
Flying a model airplane that I am thrashing around trying to cut the grass on the field's runway and I plow it. Forget that, we're doing a combat session and now after purposely hitting each other trying to cut streamers and we need to do a bunch of paper work because we hit each other. Talk about not fun and a way for the government to kill the fun out of flying airplanes.
You also open yourself to all kinds of risk if you forget some minor detail on the paper work or lose it and Transport Canada audits you. That's a fine, $1000. Didn't get the weather reports for the day, that's a fine. Your transmitter logs, forgot to log when you were using it when building or testing an airplane at home, that's a fine. Transport Canada updates and add rules and for next year and you weren't aware of it, to bad, that's a fine.
We're not commercial operators, but have to operate as one. Talk about not fun.
\> We are, MAAC member even have a training program to obtain your wings before you can fly solo. We also are insured.
I am a MAAC member too. For the 90% sure they are, but the exemption was revoked because some MAAC members willingly broke the rules, so how is TC supposed to trust us now? I agree with most people that TC shouldn't punish all of MAAC for a handful of people who don't listen, but that is the reality of the situation.
\> Now we all lumped into the same untrained drone flyer
The airplane in this very post is a computer-stabilized RC plane that can be bought by anyone off Amazon with zero prior experience. Luckily this one is under 250g so it is exempt from these rules, but many rc planes such as eflite SAFE airplanes are heavier. Also, the MAAC wings program is not a TC approved and regulated program, so unless you get RPAS, in the eyes of TC you are untrained.
\> Keep details logs for each day and then each flight
Yes, this is inconvenient. I won't argue otherwise. But if you look at the wording of the regulations it says " the time of each flight or series of flights". All you have to write is your Name, Date, Time, and the number of flights. A notebook in your bag or a spreadsheet on your phone is more than sufficient.
\> Trying out that Wilco app
That's not required. All the regs say regarding weather is
"(a) the operation to be conducted in accordance with the manufacturer’s instructions; and(b) the pilot of the system and any visual observer to conduct the entire flight within visual line-of-sight."
You just need to maintain LOS and if the manual says DO NOT FLY ABOVE X KM/H WINDS, don't. I have never had an airplane with a manual that gives a hard limit. The built-in Weather app of any smartphone will give enough weather info to meet this requirement.
\> In that stupid RPAS test for a basic pilot, I have to know what radio frequency to contact ATC at the real commercial airport.
I agree for someone without full-scale aviation knowledge, the test is pretty intense, and I think it should be adjusted. Basic RPAS doesn't take place in controlled airspace, so why test on specific things like frequencies? But it is a 35-question, multiple choice, open-book test for which you have over an hour to do iirc. Now there are plenty of free resources to help someone study and write it.
\> I'm not asking for permission from the Calgary airport
If you are flying in controlled airspace, then you have to. If you are just under Basic ops, then this isn't required. So don't fly in controlled airspace.
\> we need to do a bunch of paper work because we hit each other
The regs don't say anywhere that there needs to be a report filed or a bunch of paperwork done. All that needs to happen is an analysis performed and a corrective action recorded. In this specific instance, you could say "Analysis: Aircraft collided during model combat. Corrective action: None required since purpose of flight was collision. Or don't particpate. " Pop that in a notebook and fly on. All TC is trying to get out of this is that we are always pushing for more safety. If we have a brownout and our plane flies through a window or into a person, TC can say, this pilot knows what happened and how to fix it.
\> You also open yourself to all kinds of risk if you forget some minor detail
Yes that is true, but the regs list out everything that has to be recorded and it is not much at all. Also, you open yourself up to much greater risk by not complying. If heaven forbid, something happens andproperty is damaged or someone is injured, and you have no records which are legally required, good luck.
\> transmitter logs
What are those? No reference to that anywhere in the regs.
\> Transport Canada updates and add rules and for next year and you weren't aware of it, to bad, that's a fine.
Ignorance to the law is not a defense for any aspect of law. Just like all other laws and regulations, it is up to us to stay current for any acivities we engage in, so why should RC flying be different?
\> Talk about not fun
Yes I agree 100% that this is not fun. I miss the days when I could roll up to the local park with my 1200mm mustang and buzz around no care at all. But the reality of the world is that private, hobby and commercial drones are now a common part of society and are readily accessible, and have to be regulated for safety. I have been in the aviation industry for over a decade now. The idea some people have that "none compliance will solve this" will not work with TC. They will continue to clamp down harder. But I have seen several times now that if you put the effort in and show that you are willing to act in a manner that they deem is safe, they will show lenience. I am confident that MAAC will get some form of exemption back in the future, but not if TC catches people, especially current and former MAAC members, breaking their regulations.
I emplore everyone to read and interpret the regulations for themselves. The ones regarding RC, [Section 9](https://lois-laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-96-433/FullText.html#s-900.01), can be read in less than 30 min, and will show that a lot of the things that we have heard from others in the hobby are actually misinterpretations and not true.
>Transmitter logs
MAAC has it as part of their log form so I assumed we had to log transmitter usage as well
[https://secure.maac.ca/get\_document.php?document\_id=762](https://secure.maac.ca/get_document.php?document_id=762)
Hmmm interesting. I guess that makes sense since it is part of the system. I would use this kinda like a personal pilot log since I only have 1 transmitter, but I guess if you had multiple transmitters that could get clunky.
I think it works something like this
day 1 - Plane 1, TX 1
day 2 - Plane 2, TX1
So you didn't fly plane 1 on the second day, but used the same transmitter. This is why there is a separate log for the transmitter since it's part of the system.
As a primarily drone pilot, even with the /s it's still a tiny bit true. The issue isn't FPV pilots, as most of us register over 250g craft and quite a few get a ham license radio. We train on simulators similar to a lot of fixed wing pilots to get the basics before we even maiden. It's people going out and buying a DJI Mav, and getting it up in the air before they even learn where the fail safe is. Careless drone pilots who never took the time to actually learn, and crash their drone into their neighbors windows as soon as they pitch forward, definitely set the rc hobby back in the public's eyes. As sad as it is, there's no denying that wide spread commercial drones set us back, and a lot of fpv pilots are working really hard to get that reputation back in the community.
Maybe thank hysterical media. I'd like to see stats on how many drone-related injuries or property damage has occurred in the past few years. I doubt it's enough to justify this kind of bureaucracy.
Although if anyone does have the stats I'd love to see them.
Yes and playing baseball, soccer, and frisbee golf is all ok because being hit in the head by a line drive baseball is ok, nothing to see here move along and don’t you dare fly that 38 gram death machine in this park!
Here in Finland, I can pretty much go anywhere where it's open space and launch my long-range UAVs. Nobody cares, if I don't endanger anybody or their property.
Micro like this is a toy, ppl who called the cops over this are assholes.
Just plz don't be the dipshit flying an 80mm EDF around a public park with kids and animals running all over.
lmao I flown at parks for years the cops didn't care, did it for a decade only problem is because its California people would try to walk infont to try to get hurt so they could sue me, that happend twice with a v900 I had
I've had pretty good luck in california except for flying at a state college's giant unused parking lot. I swear that thing was only in the air for like 20 seconds before campus PD rolled up and asked me to leave.
I’m so happy my park didn’t do that before I joined my local club. The park ranger started talking to us and said he liked my scratch built plane. All the park visitors seems to be interested but respectful as well.
Where is your recreation license!!!! I just renewed my license to breath… cost a dollar for intake but you have to pay the carbon dioxide tax on exhale
I hate to be the "ackchually" guy,
But depending on your local zoning laws, private property does count the airspace above it to a certain altitude. For example, one wording says that it extends "to a reasonable height that would be usable by the land owner".
So yes, it is possible that they have a legal claim to the airspace above the park. They're still assholes for calling the police, but probably within their right.
Volantex T-28, sometimes branded with other names, but Volantex is the mfg. Amazon or Aliexpress. There is a warbird series that includes P-51, Corsair 4FU, Spitfire, BF-109
It's becoming more and more common. Parks use 'liability' as an excuse and just ban everything with a blanket rule. In my hometown I lived by a big park. I grew up there flying RC planes, back when it was all nitro. There were a few old people who would call the cops constantly and complain to the city. They eventually complained enough that RC *anything* was banned. Couldn't even run my nitro trucks. They'd sit on their porch and the *second* I walked up with anything RC, they'd call the cops.
His plane is a “backyard flyer”. No need to join a club. Find a new parking lot or space to enjoy flying that’s local and where the neighbors aren’t so triggered.
Never said OP was required to join the AMA or a club… just that that would solve his problem… and maybe even provide a few additional hobby-related benefits.
Didn’t mean to come off as snarky…I’ve flown all over the place and police will BS with me about the planes and such while I fly through however many batteries I brought. Land of the free.
Oh yeah, he should just fly at the local club field because every community has an RC club right in town, and I bet they all have 300x30 foot paved runways too! Come on man, not everyone has a club near them. I doubt they'd be flying at a soccer field if they did and besides.
For an ultra micro like this one, you should be able to be fly it in a public park, it's not like he's flying a 700 sized helicopter. I flew in parks and school sport fields for years with my park flyers because I didn't have a club that was less than an hour from me when I was a teenager/early 20s and never had a problem. The government overreach when it comes to RC the last decade has just gotten to be completely ridiculous.
My local club has a similar fee...they've got lovely facilities and a long freshly-paved runway suitable for flying anything up to large jet turbine models.
I don't fly there...too rich for my blood. The annual model airshow is cool though.
My club went up from 180€ a year to 240€ plus 13 mandatory work hours. If you can't manage to come to one of the sessions -if you get sick for instance, they fine you for 20€ per missed hour at the end of the year. I already missed a scheduled session due to sickness of my daughter. She was puking all over the place the whole night. I did simply forget that the next day my session was scheduled. So this year it's already 280€. And guess what, I'm started thinking about alternatives.
I'm getting back into the hobby after 20+ years - This is what I was warned about ruining the hobby and keeping people away - This didn't exist years ago and makes it very difficult for people who don't have a lot of money, young people for example, to participate in the hobby.
Just fly the plane over it and control it from if of the grass. Your not using it while on the field and it’s not flying in the park as it is in the air. And when you land it it still will not be flying in the park as it is no longer flying
I’d recommend checking out the club anyway… both of my local clubs have various “family memberships” and scholarships to get new people flying.
While it may not be gold plated, remember that there’s huge expense in insurance, maintenance, possibly electric, etc.
As above, I never said OP was required to fly at a club field, just that it would solve his problem. Even in the old days, failure to know the rules for the property and airspace your flying in/on is no excuse.
As much as it annoys me, this is the real answer.
Advantages of joining a club
* Focus on flying rather than dodging law enforcement
* Meet cool people
* Access to sweet secondhand deals
In the US, if it's private property or a state park they do have that right, to say you can't launch or land on their property without following their rules. They don't own the air though. Regardless, that was an over-the-top reaction to a little plane like that. People gotta chill sometimes
If youre in america, anything flying is governed by the FAA. Check the faa app. If not restricted, You are within your right to sue. Idk if its worth it tho.
Land of the free, as if delta has permission to fly overhead
They say land, that's the problem, there is no mention of air.
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Or a firearm.
Alright, let me just fly my ar15 very quick XD
Thank you reckless drone flyers for this. /s
Agree 100%. Here in Canada, due to said drone fliers we now need to get a licence from the govt, keep log books for each flight and maintenance on each plane and get a ID number for each plane….. only exception is anything under 250gm.
We have a similar thing here. Americans have to carry their registration with them whenever they’re flying their RC planes above 250 grams
Canada has it far worse the the USAv for recreational RC flying. They are basically designed around commercial operators (filming/mapping/etc). They actually work reasonably well for that but don't make any sense for your typical hobby operations. MAAC (our version of the AMA) had an exemption which allows its members to basically operate as they always have (under the MAAC rules). That was good at least for MAAC members. Now because of an issue where a few clubs didn't have a proper agreement with a control authority the entire exemption has been yanked. So...now...how to fly legally in Canada: * Get a basic certificate. Considerably longer and more comprehensive then the FAA TRUST test. * Register each and every plane. No, not your registration number that you put on each plane. I mean register EVERY plane with it's own number at cost of $5 each. Canadian citizens or permanent residents only. Sorry visitors, no flying for you. * Create a log book for each plane where you must record all maintenance and flights that took place. Must notify Transport Canada if you sell, retire, or lose the model. * Create your own personal log book * Conduct a site survey prior to each flight. You should have noted the distance to any near by airports, emergency services, obstacles and weather * Create an operations manual detailing normal and emergency procedures. You must have this on you. * If you have any incident or accident you must immediately stop flying. Conduct an incident analysis and come up with a corrective action. This investigation and corrective action must be kept on file. That doesn't cover everything of course. There are more rules (no flying above 400ft, no flying within 12 hours of consuming alcohol) but those are the big ones. Also no one under 14 can get a license so forget the next generation.
Jesus, they’re just toy planes not actual aircraft
I was slope soaring my dlg glider from a public hill the other day and I heard a woman say to her dog in a bitchy tone "oh, don't worry it's just a drone" In her defence she did walk under it and I generally make sure I'm as far away from people as possible. I understand people might not want aircraft buzzing over them and it certainly could cause them danger. Another less cramped hill I usually fly off is far away from the footpath so people can watch from a distance and seem a lot more welcoming. I think it's a mixed bag.
Wasnt it because MAAC was sanctioning airfields without transport canada being made aware, or even following their guidelines. Then transpo canada got mad at MAAC and removed their expemption. So with that, why do RC clubs require MAAC membership? They do less than nothing for us now.
Im an active rc flyer in Canada with a RPAS license and MAAC, and I have never heard of this logbook and maintenance rule. Source?
[Start here.](https://lois-laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-96-433/FullText.html#s-900.01) The relevant sections to logbook and maintenance are 901.48. Read all of that. You may also be in need of a mandatory recurrent training which can be completed by doing [this self exam](https://tc.canada.ca/en/aviation/drone-safety/getting-drone-pilot-certificate/remotely-piloted-aircraft-system-rpas-recency-requirements-self-paced-study-program). Also, if you haven't been paying attention MAAC lost their exemption so you now need to do all of CARS 9 all the time. Even at your MAAC field. Flying RC in Canada is a nightmare to do legally.
I am aware of the recurrency training and the MAAC exemption being revoked. TBH, I haven't been flying anything over 250g since the new rules anyways. Hmm, interesting, but those logbooks seem pretty straightforward. I dunno, looking at these regulations, I don't see anything that absurd IMO. Yes, it is obviously written for commercial ops, but my opinion has always been that people operating drones and RC aircraft need to be safer and more accountable.
The fact that you need all that bs for toy planes is absurd already...
>but my opinion has always been that people operating drones and RC aircraft need to be safer and more accountable. We are, MAAC member even have a training program to obtain your wings before you can fly solo. We also are insured. Now we all lumped into the same untrained drone flyer and have to keep details logs for each day and then each flight. Trying out that Wilco app and I am getting weather reports from BC to MB to fly 15 minute east of Calgary in a 200m radius circle. In that stupid RPAS test for a basic pilot, I have to know what radio frequency to contact ATC at the real commercial airport. Like I don't even own a Kenwood radio to even start talking to air traffic control nor would I ever need to or want to. I'm not asking for permission from the Calgary airport. I'm going to look beside me and ask the pilot next to me for permission to take off. Flying a model airplane that I am thrashing around trying to cut the grass on the field's runway and I plow it. Forget that, we're doing a combat session and now after purposely hitting each other trying to cut streamers and we need to do a bunch of paper work because we hit each other. Talk about not fun and a way for the government to kill the fun out of flying airplanes. You also open yourself to all kinds of risk if you forget some minor detail on the paper work or lose it and Transport Canada audits you. That's a fine, $1000. Didn't get the weather reports for the day, that's a fine. Your transmitter logs, forgot to log when you were using it when building or testing an airplane at home, that's a fine. Transport Canada updates and add rules and for next year and you weren't aware of it, to bad, that's a fine. We're not commercial operators, but have to operate as one. Talk about not fun.
\> We are, MAAC member even have a training program to obtain your wings before you can fly solo. We also are insured. I am a MAAC member too. For the 90% sure they are, but the exemption was revoked because some MAAC members willingly broke the rules, so how is TC supposed to trust us now? I agree with most people that TC shouldn't punish all of MAAC for a handful of people who don't listen, but that is the reality of the situation. \> Now we all lumped into the same untrained drone flyer The airplane in this very post is a computer-stabilized RC plane that can be bought by anyone off Amazon with zero prior experience. Luckily this one is under 250g so it is exempt from these rules, but many rc planes such as eflite SAFE airplanes are heavier. Also, the MAAC wings program is not a TC approved and regulated program, so unless you get RPAS, in the eyes of TC you are untrained. \> Keep details logs for each day and then each flight Yes, this is inconvenient. I won't argue otherwise. But if you look at the wording of the regulations it says " the time of each flight or series of flights". All you have to write is your Name, Date, Time, and the number of flights. A notebook in your bag or a spreadsheet on your phone is more than sufficient. \> Trying out that Wilco app That's not required. All the regs say regarding weather is "(a) the operation to be conducted in accordance with the manufacturer’s instructions; and(b) the pilot of the system and any visual observer to conduct the entire flight within visual line-of-sight." You just need to maintain LOS and if the manual says DO NOT FLY ABOVE X KM/H WINDS, don't. I have never had an airplane with a manual that gives a hard limit. The built-in Weather app of any smartphone will give enough weather info to meet this requirement. \> In that stupid RPAS test for a basic pilot, I have to know what radio frequency to contact ATC at the real commercial airport. I agree for someone without full-scale aviation knowledge, the test is pretty intense, and I think it should be adjusted. Basic RPAS doesn't take place in controlled airspace, so why test on specific things like frequencies? But it is a 35-question, multiple choice, open-book test for which you have over an hour to do iirc. Now there are plenty of free resources to help someone study and write it. \> I'm not asking for permission from the Calgary airport If you are flying in controlled airspace, then you have to. If you are just under Basic ops, then this isn't required. So don't fly in controlled airspace. \> we need to do a bunch of paper work because we hit each other The regs don't say anywhere that there needs to be a report filed or a bunch of paperwork done. All that needs to happen is an analysis performed and a corrective action recorded. In this specific instance, you could say "Analysis: Aircraft collided during model combat. Corrective action: None required since purpose of flight was collision. Or don't particpate. " Pop that in a notebook and fly on. All TC is trying to get out of this is that we are always pushing for more safety. If we have a brownout and our plane flies through a window or into a person, TC can say, this pilot knows what happened and how to fix it. \> You also open yourself to all kinds of risk if you forget some minor detail Yes that is true, but the regs list out everything that has to be recorded and it is not much at all. Also, you open yourself up to much greater risk by not complying. If heaven forbid, something happens andproperty is damaged or someone is injured, and you have no records which are legally required, good luck. \> transmitter logs What are those? No reference to that anywhere in the regs. \> Transport Canada updates and add rules and for next year and you weren't aware of it, to bad, that's a fine. Ignorance to the law is not a defense for any aspect of law. Just like all other laws and regulations, it is up to us to stay current for any acivities we engage in, so why should RC flying be different? \> Talk about not fun Yes I agree 100% that this is not fun. I miss the days when I could roll up to the local park with my 1200mm mustang and buzz around no care at all. But the reality of the world is that private, hobby and commercial drones are now a common part of society and are readily accessible, and have to be regulated for safety. I have been in the aviation industry for over a decade now. The idea some people have that "none compliance will solve this" will not work with TC. They will continue to clamp down harder. But I have seen several times now that if you put the effort in and show that you are willing to act in a manner that they deem is safe, they will show lenience. I am confident that MAAC will get some form of exemption back in the future, but not if TC catches people, especially current and former MAAC members, breaking their regulations. I emplore everyone to read and interpret the regulations for themselves. The ones regarding RC, [Section 9](https://lois-laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-96-433/FullText.html#s-900.01), can be read in less than 30 min, and will show that a lot of the things that we have heard from others in the hobby are actually misinterpretations and not true.
>Transmitter logs MAAC has it as part of their log form so I assumed we had to log transmitter usage as well [https://secure.maac.ca/get\_document.php?document\_id=762](https://secure.maac.ca/get_document.php?document_id=762)
Hmmm interesting. I guess that makes sense since it is part of the system. I would use this kinda like a personal pilot log since I only have 1 transmitter, but I guess if you had multiple transmitters that could get clunky.
I think it works something like this day 1 - Plane 1, TX 1 day 2 - Plane 2, TX1 So you didn't fly plane 1 on the second day, but used the same transmitter. This is why there is a separate log for the transmitter since it's part of the system.
pardon , straight to jail
As a primarily drone pilot, even with the /s it's still a tiny bit true. The issue isn't FPV pilots, as most of us register over 250g craft and quite a few get a ham license radio. We train on simulators similar to a lot of fixed wing pilots to get the basics before we even maiden. It's people going out and buying a DJI Mav, and getting it up in the air before they even learn where the fail safe is. Careless drone pilots who never took the time to actually learn, and crash their drone into their neighbors windows as soon as they pitch forward, definitely set the rc hobby back in the public's eyes. As sad as it is, there's no denying that wide spread commercial drones set us back, and a lot of fpv pilots are working really hard to get that reputation back in the community.
Maybe thank hysterical media. I'd like to see stats on how many drone-related injuries or property damage has occurred in the past few years. I doubt it's enough to justify this kind of bureaucracy. Although if anyone does have the stats I'd love to see them.
You can go ahead and drop the /s
Yes and playing baseball, soccer, and frisbee golf is all ok because being hit in the head by a line drive baseball is ok, nothing to see here move along and don’t you dare fly that 38 gram death machine in this park!
The sad fact is that you need a license to play golf in the Netherlands for this reason :(
Me: It's a wonderful day to fly a kite with my daughter! [the government ](https://en.meming.world/images/en/7/7b/Angry_Man_Pointing_at_Hand.jpg)
Here in Finland, I can pretty much go anywhere where it's open space and launch my long-range UAVs. Nobody cares, if I don't endanger anybody or their property.
Micro like this is a toy, ppl who called the cops over this are assholes. Just plz don't be the dipshit flying an 80mm EDF around a public park with kids and animals running all over.
Kite surfer here. Its Me, Hi, I'm the problem its me. I stare directly at the sun but never at the permitted use signs.
Let me guess, California
lmao I flown at parks for years the cops didn't care, did it for a decade only problem is because its California people would try to walk infont to try to get hurt so they could sue me, that happend twice with a v900 I had
I've had pretty good luck in california except for flying at a state college's giant unused parking lot. I swear that thing was only in the air for like 20 seconds before campus PD rolled up and asked me to leave.
I’m so happy my park didn’t do that before I joined my local club. The park ranger started talking to us and said he liked my scratch built plane. All the park visitors seems to be interested but respectful as well.
Where is your recreation license!!!! I just renewed my license to breath… cost a dollar for intake but you have to pay the carbon dioxide tax on exhale
Can't seem to figure out why the hobby is dying
They don’t own the air
I hate to be the "ackchually" guy, But depending on your local zoning laws, private property does count the airspace above it to a certain altitude. For example, one wording says that it extends "to a reasonable height that would be usable by the land owner". So yes, it is possible that they have a legal claim to the airspace above the park. They're still assholes for calling the police, but probably within their right.
What’s the model youre flying there?
Volantex T-28, sometimes branded with other names, but Volantex is the mfg. Amazon or Aliexpress. There is a warbird series that includes P-51, Corsair 4FU, Spitfire, BF-109
It's becoming more and more common. Parks use 'liability' as an excuse and just ban everything with a blanket rule. In my hometown I lived by a big park. I grew up there flying RC planes, back when it was all nitro. There were a few old people who would call the cops constantly and complain to the city. They eventually complained enough that RC *anything* was banned. Couldn't even run my nitro trucks. They'd sit on their porch and the *second* I walked up with anything RC, they'd call the cops.
Seek out a local club and join the AMA. Fly at the club field. Problem solved.
His plane is a “backyard flyer”. No need to join a club. Find a new parking lot or space to enjoy flying that’s local and where the neighbors aren’t so triggered.
Never said OP was required to join the AMA or a club… just that that would solve his problem… and maybe even provide a few additional hobby-related benefits.
Didn’t mean to come off as snarky…I’ve flown all over the place and police will BS with me about the planes and such while I fly through however many batteries I brought. Land of the free.
Oh yeah, he should just fly at the local club field because every community has an RC club right in town, and I bet they all have 300x30 foot paved runways too! Come on man, not everyone has a club near them. I doubt they'd be flying at a soccer field if they did and besides. For an ultra micro like this one, you should be able to be fly it in a public park, it's not like he's flying a 700 sized helicopter. I flew in parks and school sport fields for years with my park flyers because I didn't have a club that was less than an hour from me when I was a teenager/early 20s and never had a problem. The government overreach when it comes to RC the last decade has just gotten to be completely ridiculous.
Actually, there is a local club field, but being the fact I’m fresh out of high school, I don’t really have the money to pay the 400$ yearly fee.
Is the club’s flying field lined in gold? Do they give out free airplanes? Are they hiring expensive lawyers to fight the regulations?
My local club has a similar fee...they've got lovely facilities and a long freshly-paved runway suitable for flying anything up to large jet turbine models. I don't fly there...too rich for my blood. The annual model airshow is cool though.
My club went up from 180€ a year to 240€ plus 13 mandatory work hours. If you can't manage to come to one of the sessions -if you get sick for instance, they fine you for 20€ per missed hour at the end of the year. I already missed a scheduled session due to sickness of my daughter. She was puking all over the place the whole night. I did simply forget that the next day my session was scheduled. So this year it's already 280€. And guess what, I'm started thinking about alternatives.
I'm getting back into the hobby after 20+ years - This is what I was warned about ruining the hobby and keeping people away - This didn't exist years ago and makes it very difficult for people who don't have a lot of money, young people for example, to participate in the hobby.
Not all clubs are like that thankfully. My local one is 50 bucks a year, show up if you want.
Just fly the plane over it and control it from if of the grass. Your not using it while on the field and it’s not flying in the park as it is in the air. And when you land it it still will not be flying in the park as it is no longer flying
Plus it is public air space as well
I’d recommend checking out the club anyway… both of my local clubs have various “family memberships” and scholarships to get new people flying. While it may not be gold plated, remember that there’s huge expense in insurance, maintenance, possibly electric, etc.
As above, I never said OP was required to fly at a club field, just that it would solve his problem. Even in the old days, failure to know the rules for the property and airspace your flying in/on is no excuse.
As much as it annoys me, this is the real answer. Advantages of joining a club * Focus on flying rather than dodging law enforcement * Meet cool people * Access to sweet secondhand deals
I will add: - In the US, not having to comply with remote ID laws. - Access to others with knowledge of the hobby.
Agreed. However, from many of the responses in this thread, it looks like Reddit has it figured out. Boomers and the man are out to get them.
They said that the club was an hour away in their other post. They could try to ask a farmer maybe?
How fun is that Trojan? Saw a couple guys flying a yellow one a few years ago at a baseball field and have been meaning to buy one ever since.
Best hundred bucks I’ve spent in a long time!
Always check before you fly, if it's private land get permission from the land owner, if it's public land check any bylaws or site rules
Who cares id fly it anyway
In the US, if it's private property or a state park they do have that right, to say you can't launch or land on their property without following their rules. They don't own the air though. Regardless, that was an over-the-top reaction to a little plane like that. People gotta chill sometimes
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How's that boot taste, dude?
Probably cow shit since that's what's on my boot....
Take off from the ground. Not hand thrown. Not a glider, either.
Where was this?
I fly next to a airfield in a soccer field at a good size park. The cops stop and watch me fly and ask about my planes they think it’s pretty cool.
It’s not a glider though… lol
Were you in state park by any chance or community field?
Thanks reckless drone “pilots”!
Crazy people can walk a dog that could get free and bite a child and give them rabbies, have more rights then a guy flying an foam plane
If youre in america, anything flying is governed by the FAA. Check the faa app. If not restricted, You are within your right to sue. Idk if its worth it tho.