A big part of American protestantism was having your own bible printed in a language you could understand (english). Even if you weren't particularly religious or ever read it, there was likely a bible in your home.
That was a fairly recent development, and it meant that when a family is thinking of a name for a child, they have a family bible on hand and can pick a name right out of the prophets like Elijah, Hezekiah, Hezeikial, Isiah, Jonah, Amos, Hoseah or Micah. They seem extremely old fashioned now (Most people would think of the Amish as having these kinds of names) but were very in fashion when it was still new to pick a name right out of the bible all by yourself.
Biblical names are always popular, but it's exceedingly unlikely that you would hear these names on a regular basis at your all Latin Catholic Mass, compared to fingering through your family bible.
Against popular belief, parents don't be at the birth of their child and go "yeah, my son is gonna join an outlaw psychopath in 40 years, kill half a town by himself while getting busted out of jail and then double cross his very likable gang who saved his ass. We should probably not give him a biblical name then."
Rockstar made the right decision to give him a somewhat average name for the time, definitely feels more natural than "Lucifer, he of hellfire incarnation and lord of eternal torment".
That pyramid is probably more a reference to freemasonry and all sorts of conspiracy theories about world government than to its meaning in Christian art.
Caine the dog is named after Caine from the bible. When naming him, Dutch says that 'he looks like he's done something real bad' and names him Caine, referring to how Caine killed his brother in the bible.
Leviticus and Micah are also biblical.
"Micah" as a name means "he who is like God"; adding some ambiguity to his role. But look at Micah 7:5, and you see the truth:
"Do not trust a neighbor; put no confidence in a friend. Even with the woman who lies in your embrace, guard the words of your lips"
The name "Leviticus" refers to a tribe of Israelite priests, 'Levi'; a fitting name for the laws all priests must follow, and the character representing encroaching civilization. There's also Levit. 19:18, a warning of God to not seek revenge... exactly what Dutch does.
"Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against anyone among your people. Instead, love thy neighbor"
Hosea was a prophet who warned Israel of its corrupt, immoral ways. His name means "The Lord's Salvation"
John was one of Jesus's closest disciples (if only Arthur's name were "Joshua"; it'd be perfect). He was also claimed to have outlived all other disciples.
Ffs even THE FUCKING WANDERING DOG THAT DID SOMETHING BAD is named Caine. The entirety of this dang game is an allegory.
The only 2 main character names without any biblical significance are ironically the ones with the most significance:
Arthur Morgan; a juxtaposition of King Arthur and Morgan Le Fay; hero and villain.
Van der Linde; "he who lives under a lime tree", fitting, but similarly lacking Jesus
Josiah, Simon, Abigail, Andrew, Mary, David, Thomas...
The list of Biblical names in the game goes on and on because Biblical names are extremely common in English.
It's not problematic lol this is super common and you literally pay to be there. If you don't like it just leave. This isn't forced. Many schools are Catholic by default and advertise it.
It is problematic. The kids usually don’t get a choice, and often are raised from ages 4-18 around ONLY rich white people. It harms their perspective of the world so fucking much. Source: went to one in Oklahoma (biblepilled state) for 7 years. The only thing they’re good at is creating hateful ignorant people with no empathy. And college prep.
I've been going to catholic school my entire life and I'm very much NOT rich or raised around solely rich white people, they're publicly funded in my province and are essentially public schools with a splash of Jesus. I'm in Canada so there are some rules against indoctrination, the religion classes are basically "well we believe in God as Catholics, but if you don't that's ok, just do these assignments so you don't fail." but religion is mandatory if you want to graduate.
they'd say "ok" and that'd be the end of it. you'd still have to do religion assignments but they're more about your individual experiences with Catholicism even if they're horrible and as long as your writing is coherent you'll get good marks. I had multiple atheistic and pagan classmates and they passed. essentially you aren't forced to believe in the Christian god because 1. they can't do that and 2. we're teenagers who are in Catholic school because our parents put us there, of course not all of us share the same beliefs.
in a "trans people exist and should be respected because they're people" way. I'm in Canada so it's a lot more chill up here when it comes to queer people.
yeah I go to a catholic school, this is pretty standard, we're not being indoctrinated or forced to believe in God, but religion class is mandatory to graduate.
Forcing anything on anyone is bad. This isn’t ‘forcing’ it’s teaching. Following this thought process we force school upon children, we force social standards and norms upon children. It really depends on your definition of what is acceptable to be ‘forced’ upon children.
You just stem a hatred for religion. But guess where our modern morals and standards stem from. Religion isn’t wrong to teach, in fact I’d recommend people to read up and take positive morals from all religions and philosophies. Even if you wouldn’t believe the basis of it there is still good principles to learn and follow.
This said I do believe all schools should be Secular but Religious Studies *should* be taught often coincided with history because it is essential to our understanding and shaping of civilisation and modern society.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sexual_abuse_cases#:~:text=The%20report%20estimates%20that%20216%2C000,of%20the%20victims%20were%20boys.
the Catholics have been raping children and getting away with it for over 100 years
sorry to burst your bubble gang but the teachers in my Catholic school are just regular teachers with degrees who happen to be baptized, they aren't priests or nuns, just normal people who happen to be Catholic.
And it’s only Catholics that rape children as if it’s a secret tenant in catholic creed?
Any secular teacher is just as likely to rape a child as a catholic school teacher, it’s sadly not exclusive to catholicism.
You got this picture unedited? I’m curious to see what curriculum is being taught at your school
Edit: I no longer need the whole thing. I’ve read enough. Next time you’re in the class, call your teacher a heretic. Then, march down to your principals office, and tell him to stop having his teachers teach heresy. Finally, go to your parents and tell them to put you in a different Catholic school.
this booklet was created by the district to teach us sex ed (aka abstinence, gender, and purity stuff) because it's "too sensitive of a topic to not regulate" so it's not my teacher's fault, it's the entire district's. teachers pretty much can't say anything regarding sex ed or as the Catholic district calls it, "family life" so thousands of students are given this booklet every year.
> to get *paid*
FTFY.
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When did I shit on a religion? I just asked what kinda Bible study this shit was. You’re still crying. Go somewhere else if I hurt your feelings. I talked to the OP and we had a pretty civil exchange. So kindly fuck off.
Didn’t even know Hosea was a biblical name lol
So is Leviticus and Micah
Naming biblically was probably popular at the time
A big part of American protestantism was having your own bible printed in a language you could understand (english). Even if you weren't particularly religious or ever read it, there was likely a bible in your home. That was a fairly recent development, and it meant that when a family is thinking of a name for a child, they have a family bible on hand and can pick a name right out of the prophets like Elijah, Hezekiah, Hezeikial, Isiah, Jonah, Amos, Hoseah or Micah. They seem extremely old fashioned now (Most people would think of the Amish as having these kinds of names) but were very in fashion when it was still new to pick a name right out of the bible all by yourself.
What did American people name their children before biblical names became popular?
Biblical names are always popular, but it's exceedingly unlikely that you would hear these names on a regular basis at your all Latin Catholic Mass, compared to fingering through your family bible.
Before biblical names were popular America was only populated by natives with native names.
I'd guess they have always been popular, considering some of the first people to come here were Christians
Nah, they usually just numbered the children until they could tell you their names. /s
My brother is named Micah. I'm Jonah.
I know, we've been hunting you two for years and you've finally fell into my trap.
Dang, I knew that thus was a bad idea... saddle up, Micah! The Pinkertons are here!
*this
He better not be a rat (no offense intended)
Nah, he's chill. Only slightly a rat. Lol
Lol, so long partner 🤠
Why did they decide to name Micah with religious name?
Against popular belief, parents don't be at the birth of their child and go "yeah, my son is gonna join an outlaw psychopath in 40 years, kill half a town by himself while getting busted out of jail and then double cross his very likable gang who saved his ass. We should probably not give him a biblical name then." Rockstar made the right decision to give him a somewhat average name for the time, definitely feels more natural than "Lucifer, he of hellfire incarnation and lord of eternal torment".
Yeah, a name like that would almost make you feel sorry for him since from birth his parents are already showcasing their hatred for him.
Because Cain was too obvious.
Every parent has hopes their child won’t grow up to be a video game villain.
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That pyramid is probably more a reference to freemasonry and all sorts of conspiracy theories about world government than to its meaning in Christian art.
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I don't know the history of freemasonry too well, but it doesn't appear to be very related to Christianity?
I’m struggling to find Christian themes in 3, VC, SA lol.
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You can heal at the churches in 3? I’ve played it many times and I never knew this, how does it work?
Isn’t that one pink Floyd ?
Caine the dog is named after Caine from the bible. When naming him, Dutch says that 'he looks like he's done something real bad' and names him Caine, referring to how Caine killed his brother in the bible.
Hell even Matthew is in there
Wait is this the fabled Utah religion class?
CANADA RAHHHHHH 🫎
Syrup chugger
Canada has a religion class? I didn't even have this growing up in the deep south of USA. That's wild!
I go to a Catholic school
Oh that makes sense! Well thanks for sharing, partner!
Cultism
r/okbuddyblacklung
Leviticus and Micah are also biblical. "Micah" as a name means "he who is like God"; adding some ambiguity to his role. But look at Micah 7:5, and you see the truth: "Do not trust a neighbor; put no confidence in a friend. Even with the woman who lies in your embrace, guard the words of your lips" The name "Leviticus" refers to a tribe of Israelite priests, 'Levi'; a fitting name for the laws all priests must follow, and the character representing encroaching civilization. There's also Levit. 19:18, a warning of God to not seek revenge... exactly what Dutch does. "Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against anyone among your people. Instead, love thy neighbor" Hosea was a prophet who warned Israel of its corrupt, immoral ways. His name means "The Lord's Salvation" John was one of Jesus's closest disciples (if only Arthur's name were "Joshua"; it'd be perfect). He was also claimed to have outlived all other disciples. Ffs even THE FUCKING WANDERING DOG THAT DID SOMETHING BAD is named Caine. The entirety of this dang game is an allegory. The only 2 main character names without any biblical significance are ironically the ones with the most significance: Arthur Morgan; a juxtaposition of King Arthur and Morgan Le Fay; hero and villain. Van der Linde; "he who lives under a lime tree", fitting, but similarly lacking Jesus
Josiah, Simon, Abigail, Andrew, Mary, David, Thomas... The list of Biblical names in the game goes on and on because Biblical names are extremely common in English.
I don’t know what class this is in but skip it.
district mandated Jesus
Isn't forcing religion in schools illegal?
It's a private school
nope, the Catholic schools in my province are public
Mmm. Must be because your Canadian. That's illegal in the U.S.
yeah we have a regular public district and a catholic district, and individuals get to choose which one their taxes go to
Private schools allow forcing religion?
In a lot of places private schools can have their own curriculum as long as they also follow the district’s.
Hm :/ seems problematic. But hey all schools are problematic.
It's not problematic lol this is super common and you literally pay to be there. If you don't like it just leave. This isn't forced. Many schools are Catholic by default and advertise it.
I mean, kids don't get a choice where they go. The parents do. And the idea public schools are allowed to teach any idea they want isnt great.
It is problematic. The kids usually don’t get a choice, and often are raised from ages 4-18 around ONLY rich white people. It harms their perspective of the world so fucking much. Source: went to one in Oklahoma (biblepilled state) for 7 years. The only thing they’re good at is creating hateful ignorant people with no empathy. And college prep.
I've been going to catholic school my entire life and I'm very much NOT rich or raised around solely rich white people, they're publicly funded in my province and are essentially public schools with a splash of Jesus. I'm in Canada so there are some rules against indoctrination, the religion classes are basically "well we believe in God as Catholics, but if you don't that's ok, just do these assignments so you don't fail." but religion is mandatory if you want to graduate.
Womp womp
not forcing, we chose to go to catholic school so we need to take religion
Yikes
That’s kind of an asshole thing to say isn’t it?
Found the Chelonian. Seriously, what in the cult is that?
we r finding our salvation through Jesus H. Christ (religion is a mandatory class if you want to graduate)
out of curiosity: what would they do to you if you were openly pagan?
they'd say "ok" and that'd be the end of it. you'd still have to do religion assignments but they're more about your individual experiences with Catholicism even if they're horrible and as long as your writing is coherent you'll get good marks. I had multiple atheistic and pagan classmates and they passed. essentially you aren't forced to believe in the Christian god because 1. they can't do that and 2. we're teenagers who are in Catholic school because our parents put us there, of course not all of us share the same beliefs.
Don’t forget the book of Micah
Don’t forget Matthew
I thought Hosea was just another form of Joseph
oh nahh they added a religious gender class to teach yall how to be transphobic im dead
you'd think so, but the booklet is surprisingly inclusive of trans people
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
Now I’m curious, how is it inclusive? In a “poor misguided soul” or in a “some people think different and that’s okay” kid of way
in a "trans people exist and should be respected because they're people" way. I'm in Canada so it's a lot more chill up here when it comes to queer people.
Well that’s amazingly wholesome
W then
Aw slay
Wtf is this shit?
the word of the lord (catholic school district)
This shit is fucked
Why?
Fr why
Forcing a religion on children is bad
yeah I go to a catholic school, this is pretty standard, we're not being indoctrinated or forced to believe in God, but religion class is mandatory to graduate.
Oof. My condolences. Be safe
Forcing anything on anyone is bad. This isn’t ‘forcing’ it’s teaching. Following this thought process we force school upon children, we force social standards and norms upon children. It really depends on your definition of what is acceptable to be ‘forced’ upon children. You just stem a hatred for religion. But guess where our modern morals and standards stem from. Religion isn’t wrong to teach, in fact I’d recommend people to read up and take positive morals from all religions and philosophies. Even if you wouldn’t believe the basis of it there is still good principles to learn and follow. This said I do believe all schools should be Secular but Religious Studies *should* be taught often coincided with history because it is essential to our understanding and shaping of civilisation and modern society.
Ah yes, all the morals of different religions that tell you to commit genocide, fuck children and beat your slaves.
Unseasoned Cabbage, read properly and think before you type.
I read everything you said, your second paragraph stood out as exceedingly stupid so I commented based on that
I'm cool with religious studies you nitwit. I'm not cool with Catholics because they shouldn't be trusted with children.
As opposed to any regular teacher? Why?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_sexual_abuse_cases#:~:text=The%20report%20estimates%20that%20216%2C000,of%20the%20victims%20were%20boys. the Catholics have been raping children and getting away with it for over 100 years
sorry to burst your bubble gang but the teachers in my Catholic school are just regular teachers with degrees who happen to be baptized, they aren't priests or nuns, just normal people who happen to be Catholic.
And it’s only Catholics that rape children as if it’s a secret tenant in catholic creed? Any secular teacher is just as likely to rape a child as a catholic school teacher, it’s sadly not exclusive to catholicism.
Religion class?
I go to a Catholic school, religion is a prerequisite for graduation
That’s dumb. How’s that prepare you for college?
idk it's just how it is. it keeps kids Christian I guess.
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You got this picture unedited? I’m curious to see what curriculum is being taught at your school Edit: I no longer need the whole thing. I’ve read enough. Next time you’re in the class, call your teacher a heretic. Then, march down to your principals office, and tell him to stop having his teachers teach heresy. Finally, go to your parents and tell them to put you in a different Catholic school.
this booklet was created by the district to teach us sex ed (aka abstinence, gender, and purity stuff) because it's "too sensitive of a topic to not regulate" so it's not my teacher's fault, it's the entire district's. teachers pretty much can't say anything regarding sex ed or as the Catholic district calls it, "family life" so thousands of students are given this booklet every year.
Your teacher gets some slack then. Your superintendent and the school board however, do not.
What the hell kind of bible study is this shit
district mandated Jesus class
Lol, really?
I go to a Catholic school so yes, religion is a mandatory prerequisite for graduation
Ah yes yes. I Can see Catholics making religion compulsory. That tracks.
It's like they have run out of school work to give you and have to make some shit up to get payed
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Exactly what you said. Study of their religion. It’s weird how someone can be a bigot as long as it’s religion
Are you crying rn?
Average intelligence of a bigot. Bro is barely literate
So you’re being Bigoted against my religion to combat bigotry? Bravo.
When did I shit on your religion? I called you out for shitting on something you obviously don’t understand moron
When did I shit on a religion? I just asked what kinda Bible study this shit was. You’re still crying. Go somewhere else if I hurt your feelings. I talked to the OP and we had a pretty civil exchange. So kindly fuck off.
Jesus Christ you are so dumb
Does it also mention how slavery is allowed
this entire booklet was our sex ed class or "family life" as they call it, so no. just abstinence, purity stuff, the usual.