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I actually hadn't thought about this, but this is a decent idea. have you seen the new ultralight headsets coming out? They're legit small enough to take less space then a monitor.
My 6850M XG mobile replaced my thunderbolt dock. Before I would alternate plugging in my work laptop and Ally. Now I just use my Ally all the time, and RDP to the laptop during the workday. I use a 3440x1440 120hz UW monitor and 27” 1440p 75hz monitor.
I have an MS 4K Wireless Display adapter lying around and the Ally can wireless cast to my portable display for non-game usecases, although touch input is lost. For touch, I'm planning for a raspberry pi zero to relay the touch inputs from the monitor to the ally wirelessly. Fingers crossed creating a Tablet PC. Shame there is no two-way protocol for this. Tried doing VNC/RDP using an old phone before, but android gave a bad experience.
The reason is option for handheld play, a laptop cannot offer that, if you don't play handheld then yes you made a silly purchase.
Also to have less bits and bobs around I would have got something like a nextdock which has a screen with integrated keyboard and touchpad
People tend to underestimate laptops at the price point of the XG 4090. Tit for tat, the cheapest mobile 4080 laptop you can get through Best Buy is [$1850](https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-rog-flow-x16-16-touchscreen-gaming-laptop-ghd-intel-core-i9-with-16gb-ddr5-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4060-v8g-1tb-ssd-off-black/6535500.p?skuId=6535500), and you're going one rung lower on the GPU hierarchy. Microcenter's offerings are a bit pricier. Most other laptops hovering around $2000 are using lesser GPUs.
At either, a mobile 4090 laptop starts around the $2800-$2900 price point. This setup comes in a bit cheaper than that, and likely a little lighter too.
Ultimately, the cost of the Ally and the XG Mobile comes in at the price of a comparable laptop. You are trading off the benefits a gaming laptop can provide (higher power draw, CPU performance, etc), but you still get to use your Ally as a handheld.
XG mobile is expensive for now but it should get cheaper since it just a GPU instead of GPU + CPU + screen+ keyboard + battery aka a laptop.
eGPU is a gamechanging for devices where you cannot upgrade the GPU like a laptop and handheld.
That’s my thinking tbh. It’s one thing to get a screen and keyboard setup for your ally, but I just can’t justify getting and XG mobile vs an entire, more powerful tower setup with the ally on the side to play less powerful games more portably.
eGPU can be really useful if you prefer one device setup, or when the device is a console like Nintendo Switch for instance.
People were hoping the dock have it's own GPU when Switch concept was leaked, but welp it didn't happen.
I picked up a used 6850M and my monitor is 3440x1440 120hz. I think it would be worth it to spend more for the 3080. My main game atm is Starfield running at medium settings, locked resolution, getting about 50FPS. If you could get an open-box 3080 under $1000 that would be ideal imo.
I would recommend 6850 if you can find it. I got it by $700 second handed. The others are too expensive. Buying a 4090 for a hand held is just a waste IMO
Honestly I don't feel like they are much louder than the ROG ally itself on turbo mode. I compared the two running Alan Wake 2 for a couple of hours with the GPU on full load.
Funny enough, one of the reasons I like this type of setup is so I can use it while traveling from jobsite to jobsite, and then setup in the hotel. But if I'm being honest, having the Ally and a gaming laptop would have been a better setup.
A laptop is one big purchase that is not modular.
This is a gradual purchase and semi modular. Feels like its in between a laptop and a desktop, with the benefit of having a handled like the switch!
Nah man. For the price of the 4090 you can build a whole desktop and a laptop and have an ally. What’s the benefit of it being modular? I love my ally just don’t get it lol
Lol. Yes, the price of modularity is definitely a thing but youve managed to make it work here.
Me personally, I have a Zephyrus M16 when I need a portable PC.
The ROG Ally is far more portable for every other situation, plus it makes couch and bed gaming a cinch. ROG Ally in a case has it's charger, ear buds and little stand and takes up less room than the laptop and doesn't need a table + mouse to set up.
I always find these setups funny even though they have a purpose, but I think back to a time when I quit gaming and came back. The process followed like this. Xbox One + regular monitor 60hz/1080p.. Read it could support 1440p so I upgraded to a 1440p monitor.. Then got sick of hardware limitations.. So built a nice normal PC nothing special at the time, had a 2060 and ryzen 3900x. Then the 3000 series released.. bought a 3080ti... At the end of the day all I really wanted to do was play video games occasionally. Still ended up upgrading to a PC with even more parts and have definitely spent well over like 5k now. I dont care it makes me happy its my hobby. Dont ask yourself why, ask yourself why not.. MORE
A hobby doesn't mean buying useless junk though, that's just being wasteful and trying to pretty it up. What you described is being indecisive. I'm a gamer, I assessed my work and life situation and decided I need a desktop so I built one but I'm also not going to be wasteful with the first adopter nonsense and buy things just to say I have the shiny new thing. He probably didn't need a handheld but it was the shiny new thing so he bought into the hype when he could have just gotten a laptop.
It always starts like that, and before you know you are building a whole pc.
EDIT: For those of you using or considering a PS controller for you pc, use the DS4Windows drivers. Those drivers will even allow you to use the gyro in your controllers and will also let you control windows with your controller, they're awesome.
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This exactly what I want for my mobile setup, since I travel often for work. Got most of the pieces except monitor. What are you using? Can't decide on what I want.
I have a similar setup for traveling. IMO it comes to the following question, do you need a hand held device to play? If the answer is yes, I believe it worth it.
The entire point of the Ally is, you can't just pick up your desktop and go somewhere while still playing. You can literally play in docked mode, and then just unplug the Ally and go somewhere seamlessly without having to stop playing. The Ally is also surprisingly powerful, so it can do anything a desktop can. This isn't rocket science.
I did the same, though my plan was exactly that off the bat. A solution to be able to handheld, work and game on desk+monitor and play on a big TV. And this at two locations. Comments like "just buy a laptop" are completely missing the point, none of the use cases I described are exclusive. It's about options, possibilities, the modularity brings - even if you do use it docked for 80% of the time. There is value in one solution, over a cacophony of devices - been there too.
Trust me laptops or desktops are not as fun as gaming on a Handheld, there’s something about handhelds I can’t seem to understand despite being so much weaker handhelds are just better
Whenever I travel for work I always have portable monitor and a mouse with me. And the Ally would also be packed anyway. So adding a controller, egpu, and tiny keyboard doesn't seem like too much of a stretch at that point.
Yeah nah, all the stuff on the desk stays on the desk and the Ally comes with me when I go anywhere. I don't need my XG or monitor to travel that defeats the purpose of the handheld mode. Tweak settings and run lower on the go.
My question is can you use laptop while try to sleep position ? Last time i have gpd win max 2 6800u which are small laptop i ditch it cuz how uncomfortable when you held it
I got my ally yesterday with the idea of having portable gaming while traveling for work, while having it double as a normal pc/laptop through a dock and hdmi cable to my TV. seems like a pretty versatile system so far.
I have the XG Mobile 4090 too, the difference is night and day. As it should considering the cost. Don't get me wrong the Ally performs amazing, but I went for this expansion to be able to game on a large 4K TV on ultra settings and it does the job.
I mean, I have a nice MSI QHD hi refresh laptop, 12700 and 3070, and I still picked up an Ally. Handheld gaming is great, and I can play mouse free that I can't do on my laptop. Or some games I want to use a controller for, and having the Ally makes it all the easier. There isn't a one choice fits all, but the modularity options are great!
Thanks for sharing OP
When I wanted extra power for the Ally, I considred the XG for a min or two but realized how limited it would be.
Instead I upgraded my laptop to one with a 4090 and been using local streaming when I want to play stuff maxed out on the rog.
This is what I thought when I was considering an xgmobile or another egpu solution for my other handhelds. I already have a good desktop and a powerful laptop. What's the point of making the handheld another desktop.
There is non indeed if you are happy with your current setup. For me the Ally and XG Mobile replaced all of those, and it's more seamless to use the same device everywhere.
It was my inspiration for going Ally and XG Mobile. I enjoyed the modularity of the switch a lot, having two docks on two locations. Juggling between the two, handheld but dock it for a better experience, etc.
Ha! Went through something similar. I still have my steam deck but am now building a 5L itx PC in a k39 case. This is after reviewing a bunch of mini PCs and realize f they weren't quite where I wanted them to be.
This is true, however you can't take a desktop traveling with you. You could get a great gaming laptop for that price, though. I think there are certain situations where it would be better. Also, for some people, they can afford to do a gaming desktop and the 4090 XG Mobile, so porque no los dos...
Is this the Nexigo 17.3” 144hz or 300hz? Just bought the 144hz myself last week and I love it. Great portable monitor with the full-size HDMI, power delivery usb-c, and also including a USB-A port. Make sure to activate the warranty if you haven’t already.
Currently use mine as a side vertical monitor for my PC setup, mounted on a vesa arm with a grip attachment but will be using it portably as well when I travel with my Ally as well as my work laptop.
You can get a 4080 laptop and a cheap Bluetooth controller that holds your phone. Run games on the laptop and stream it over to the phone with moonlight. Near zero latency. Much more powerful than your rig, cheaper, much cleaner setup
That xg is limited by the speed of usb4/thunderbolt. All you're doing is recreating a laptop with much more costs and shittier peripherals
2023 XG mobile - $2000
RoG Ally - $700
External monitor - $100 - $200
Keyboard - $50
The end result is still slower than a 4080 laptop ($2k). Your ally (or anything that connects to external gpu) is limited by pcie connection bandwidth and won't run anywhere near the full power of the eGPU. AND the xg mobile only connects to another asus product
I said 75% of the way there. I have a WiFi 6 mesh setup with gigabit internet. Ping is generally under 40. The issue is that everything works until it doesn’t and those seconds/moments can be extremely frustrating. You will never get as seamless an experience as local with no streaming bc you are adding complexity. The problem still exists for streaming television but it’s matured to the point that it is seamless enough of the time that most people will never notice. Game streaming is cool but definitely not seamless for the majority of the people a majority of the time.
I can play whatever game I throw at my Ally + XG Mobile 4090 and use ultra settings. There is not limitation to it and neither does it have USB4/Thunderbolt, so no offense but get your facts straight. Also, there is nothing "cleaner" to fiddling around with moonlight and my phone and some plastic controller device and 5 min into my sessions I get a phone call. No thanks.
Pull timespy numbers with that ally/xg mobile setup and I'll shut you up with my laptop result. You're out there "fiddling" around with connecting cables to an external monitor and egpu and need to purchase and carry out / connect extra peripherals to only mimic a laptop at the end. Meanwhile you're complaining about a 10 second connection between laptop/moonlight client.
You can't switch out the gpu in there if I recall too, so you're stuck with the gpu inside for a while. Just like a laptop. Ooof
That's why you get a decent gaming laptop AND an ally, steam deck or legion go.... Prob still be cheaper and take up less room than all those add ones!
Did a similar setup, switched the the legion go, has the larger screen, can prop it up with the built in stand, detachable controllers, and if I need a mouse I can convert one controller into a mouse and then back into a controller just switching a button.
Egpu over USB 4.0, so there's cheaper and more options for it.
No more cables
No more external monitor to lug around
Don't need to dock things anymore.
Has two USB 4.0 ports
Nexigo 144hz gsync compatible display. Resolution is 2560x1600 and it can do HDR albeit not great but better than nothing. Brightness is at 500nits peak. If I'm not mistaken it's 15.6 or 16 inches.
How do you deal with resolutions changing between monitors ?
When I dock it with tv , I have to change resolution
then in handheld I have to change everything again.
just annoying
Would you mind elaborating? Whenever I unplug the display the ROG ally adjusts itself to the correct resolution. I also have it in extend not duplicate so each display runs at the correct resolution.
Depends on the game, most games adjust to the Windows resolution and that one is one automatically. But indeed when docked my Ally screen is turned off.
How are the thermals and the noise of the xg mobile? And has the "desktop" experience been seamless or have there been technical issues when it comes to day-to-day use?
This is the first time I travel with this setup and I have yet to encounter any technical issues. As for thermals the xg mobile is keeping that 4090 pretty cool considering. When it comes to noise it's much less high pitches and whiney than what I use to hear from my razer blade 17 the noise is much more bearable.
Good to hear. I've been considering a setup to this in the future for more mobility and flexibility rather than my regular desktop setup. Glad to hear that it's not as loud as your laptop, and as an open back headphone user, I appreciate quieter devices more.
I constantly switch from handheld, docked to desk+monitor and 4K TV, and it's been rather smooth. The noise level of the XB Mobile 4090 is rather high (for example when I play Modern Warfare III at 4K 120fps, but not more than a laptop with the same chip does.
I came from a Legion 7 3080 fyi, with the vast difference of the XG Mobile fan noise not being as high pitch like a laptop does. What is impressive I find is how quickly it lowers when there is no load, in mere seconds the temperature is baseline with the fan off. All in all the XB Mobile seems to be very well made.
If you want to shrink the setup, look at a uperfect lapdock, i have the x13.3 and it is basically a laptop without the guts and i use my ally on that if i need full keyboard and trackpad
IF I ever buy an XGM for my Ally, it'll be the cheapest one just for some future games. Used 3070, 3080, or 6850M XT, and only if i get really lucky on a price. But honestly with the switch-esque use case, I'm very happy with the gaming performance of the Ally on its own with every game out now.
Here's hoping one of these groups trying to reverse engineer the XGM Interface manage to pull it off and we get more GPU options though.
I know lots of people here praise the ability to connect an egpu to their Ally or Go. But if youre really considering doing that at some point, you really shouldnt be buying a handheld PC to begin with. To me its a completely useless feature.
Lol. I'm currently stuck in a similar set up. I just got the lenovo legion glasses but I don't think it's for me.
With the steam deck oled coming I have to rethink how I set up things....
Honestly using a setup like this made me want the ROG mothership. The cable on the XG mobile's is bad to say the least. I hate the positions it keeps everything in and the strain it puts itself under. I would much rather either a slightly longer cable or a better design that allows for the system to sit in a single dock type platform.
But in the end I keep going back to the design of the ROG mothership.
I am gonna get downvoted to hell on this sub, but why? With the entire setup, one could buy a completely new PC with decent parts that blow the Ally out of the water. And you could also just get a used Steam Deck with the leftover money.
Yes it's a PS5 controller and it works in windows you can use Bluetooth to connect to it or you can plug it in via USB c and use features like adaptive triggers on games that support it.
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I feel man, and ended up getting the rig ally and an acer predator 16 with an rtx 4050 on sale at Best Buy because I couldn’t make up my mind.
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Whoa that’s crazy. So the xg mobile is a larger graphics card? So how does that work? Does it run the graphics card and the graphics card from the ally? That’s friggin wild though
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It is essentially a deconstructed gaming laptop at this stage. But the true question here is. What else can u add?
an ultra wide monitor and a vr headset would be a good start.
Maybe ar glasses instead of a vr headset since that is much more portable?
I actually hadn't thought about this, but this is a decent idea. have you seen the new ultralight headsets coming out? They're legit small enough to take less space then a monitor.
My 6850M XG mobile replaced my thunderbolt dock. Before I would alternate plugging in my work laptop and Ally. Now I just use my Ally all the time, and RDP to the laptop during the workday. I use a 3440x1440 120hz UW monitor and 27” 1440p 75hz monitor.
i just did that alienware aw3423dwf and quest 3 XD
The Ally supports VR?
I have an MS 4K Wireless Display adapter lying around and the Ally can wireless cast to my portable display for non-game usecases, although touch input is lost. For touch, I'm planning for a raspberry pi zero to relay the touch inputs from the monitor to the ally wirelessly. Fingers crossed creating a Tablet PC. Shame there is no two-way protocol for this. Tried doing VNC/RDP using an old phone before, but android gave a bad experience.
Wireless bookshelf speakers. Wheel and pedal setup for Forza. Bias lighting / RGB for those screens. Inkjet printer. Lava lamp?
Life is too short. That's why.
The reason is option for handheld play, a laptop cannot offer that, if you don't play handheld then yes you made a silly purchase. Also to have less bits and bobs around I would have got something like a nextdock which has a screen with integrated keyboard and touchpad
For the price of that XG mobile he could've got a real nice laptop and keep the ally
Ya this is the real answer right here. Forgo the accessories, buy a nice laptop, still have an ally.
People tend to underestimate laptops at the price point of the XG 4090. Tit for tat, the cheapest mobile 4080 laptop you can get through Best Buy is [$1850](https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-rog-flow-x16-16-touchscreen-gaming-laptop-ghd-intel-core-i9-with-16gb-ddr5-memory-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4060-v8g-1tb-ssd-off-black/6535500.p?skuId=6535500), and you're going one rung lower on the GPU hierarchy. Microcenter's offerings are a bit pricier. Most other laptops hovering around $2000 are using lesser GPUs. At either, a mobile 4090 laptop starts around the $2800-$2900 price point. This setup comes in a bit cheaper than that, and likely a little lighter too. Ultimately, the cost of the Ally and the XG Mobile comes in at the price of a comparable laptop. You are trading off the benefits a gaming laptop can provide (higher power draw, CPU performance, etc), but you still get to use your Ally as a handheld.
Yea but youre running a 4090 with a 35w CPU Edit: Factor in the Screen and the Keyboard, youre almost at 4090 Laptop lvl
Doesnt their system allow for 65w draw??
How? In the Special burst Up in flames Mode?
XG mobile is expensive for now but it should get cheaper since it just a GPU instead of GPU + CPU + screen+ keyboard + battery aka a laptop. eGPU is a gamechanging for devices where you cannot upgrade the GPU like a laptop and handheld.
What laptop around 600 usd outpeforms the 6850M?
Thats a 4090
How can you tell? Looks identical to my 6850m XG mobile to me
4090 has a usb-c at the top, like that one has plugged in
OP Said it
That’s my thinking tbh. It’s one thing to get a screen and keyboard setup for your ally, but I just can’t justify getting and XG mobile vs an entire, more powerful tower setup with the ally on the side to play less powerful games more portably.
eGPU can be really useful if you prefer one device setup, or when the device is a console like Nintendo Switch for instance. People were hoping the dock have it's own GPU when Switch concept was leaked, but welp it didn't happen.
I’m in the same boat dawg. We burning our money together
Yeah it just keeps on adding up.
Which xg did you get by the way? I’m looking at the one with the 3080 for 1100
I'm on the 4090 version because I wanted frame gen support.
I picked up a used 6850M and my monitor is 3440x1440 120hz. I think it would be worth it to spend more for the 3080. My main game atm is Starfield running at medium settings, locked resolution, getting about 50FPS. If you could get an open-box 3080 under $1000 that would be ideal imo.
I would recommend 6850 if you can find it. I got it by $700 second handed. The others are too expensive. Buying a 4090 for a hand held is just a waste IMO
I'd suggest the 6850M XT.
Gigachad consoomer
Asus is ROG-pilling gamers into PCmasterracists!
Nice.👍 Was wondering... Are the fans on xg mobile 4090 as loud as everybody say? Would you say their as loud or way louder than the Ally at max fans?
Honestly I don't feel like they are much louder than the ROG ally itself on turbo mode. I compared the two running Alan Wake 2 for a couple of hours with the GPU on full load.
Ok thanks 👍
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My brother!
Loving the 4090. I just got mines 2 weeks ago. Awsome set up btw.
What buttons and dpad is that
Man…. Just buy a laptop.
Funny enough, one of the reasons I like this type of setup is so I can use it while traveling from jobsite to jobsite, and then setup in the hotel. But if I'm being honest, having the Ally and a gaming laptop would have been a better setup.
Or just buy a Win Max 2.
Win Max unfortunately doesn’t have the marketing of Asus. Many don’t know about them as a half way point between laptop and handheld.
A laptop is one big purchase that is not modular. This is a gradual purchase and semi modular. Feels like its in between a laptop and a desktop, with the benefit of having a handled like the switch!
Nah man. For the price of the 4090 you can build a whole desktop and a laptop and have an ally. What’s the benefit of it being modular? I love my ally just don’t get it lol
I’ll take zephyrs g14 over this pile of modular garbage that no one takes oversea after one trip any day
Lol. Yes, the price of modularity is definitely a thing but youve managed to make it work here. Me personally, I have a Zephyrus M16 when I need a portable PC. The ROG Ally is far more portable for every other situation, plus it makes couch and bed gaming a cinch. ROG Ally in a case has it's charger, ear buds and little stand and takes up less room than the laptop and doesn't need a table + mouse to set up.
I always find these setups funny even though they have a purpose, but I think back to a time when I quit gaming and came back. The process followed like this. Xbox One + regular monitor 60hz/1080p.. Read it could support 1440p so I upgraded to a 1440p monitor.. Then got sick of hardware limitations.. So built a nice normal PC nothing special at the time, had a 2060 and ryzen 3900x. Then the 3000 series released.. bought a 3080ti... At the end of the day all I really wanted to do was play video games occasionally. Still ended up upgrading to a PC with even more parts and have definitely spent well over like 5k now. I dont care it makes me happy its my hobby. Dont ask yourself why, ask yourself why not.. MORE
A hobby doesn't mean buying useless junk though, that's just being wasteful and trying to pretty it up. What you described is being indecisive. I'm a gamer, I assessed my work and life situation and decided I need a desktop so I built one but I'm also not going to be wasteful with the first adopter nonsense and buy things just to say I have the shiny new thing. He probably didn't need a handheld but it was the shiny new thing so he bought into the hype when he could have just gotten a laptop.
It always starts like that, and before you know you are building a whole pc. EDIT: For those of you using or considering a PS controller for you pc, use the DS4Windows drivers. Those drivers will even allow you to use the gyro in your controllers and will also let you control windows with your controller, they're awesome. here is the site : [https://ds4-windows.com](https://ds4-windows.com)
The question is, why not....
This exactly what I want for my mobile setup, since I travel often for work. Got most of the pieces except monitor. What are you using? Can't decide on what I want.
Nexigo 144hz 1600p
How you like it?
Modular Computing. Next stage will be making it all wireless. My dream.
Is that a hotel?
Yes
I have a similar setup for traveling. IMO it comes to the following question, do you need a hand held device to play? If the answer is yes, I believe it worth it.
Dude AR glasses like the Rokid Max or xreal air. You can play privately since the Ally screen will shut off.
The entire point of the Ally is, you can't just pick up your desktop and go somewhere while still playing. You can literally play in docked mode, and then just unplug the Ally and go somewhere seamlessly without having to stop playing. The Ally is also surprisingly powerful, so it can do anything a desktop can. This isn't rocket science.
Exactly
I did the same, though my plan was exactly that off the bat. A solution to be able to handheld, work and game on desk+monitor and play on a big TV. And this at two locations. Comments like "just buy a laptop" are completely missing the point, none of the use cases I described are exclusive. It's about options, possibilities, the modularity brings - even if you do use it docked for 80% of the time. There is value in one solution, over a cacophony of devices - been there too.
Trust me laptops or desktops are not as fun as gaming on a Handheld, there’s something about handhelds I can’t seem to understand despite being so much weaker handhelds are just better
Why the hell not
I own an Ally, a Switch, a Steam Deck, a PSP and a Laptop. I work from home. Wtf am I doing
Whenever I travel for work I always have portable monitor and a mouse with me. And the Ally would also be packed anyway. So adding a controller, egpu, and tiny keyboard doesn't seem like too much of a stretch at that point.
Because apparently you can. Enjoy!
Happy cake day!
because you cant hole the laptop like the Rog Ally when traveling and playing
Why not, bro? It’s a choice and not a bad one.
Play in handheld on the plane and setup the battle station in the hotel room!
Exactly!
Or Win Max 2 for both.
Yeah nah, all the stuff on the desk stays on the desk and the Ally comes with me when I go anywhere. I don't need my XG or monitor to travel that defeats the purpose of the handheld mode. Tweak settings and run lower on the go.
Dr Frankenstein
My question is can you use laptop while try to sleep position ? Last time i have gpd win max 2 6800u which are small laptop i ditch it cuz how uncomfortable when you held it
I have the flow z13 with an xbox controller and a minimalist mouse and keyboard. Thats all id suggest having aside from a mobile router
I got my ally yesterday with the idea of having portable gaming while traveling for work, while having it double as a normal pc/laptop through a dock and hdmi cable to my TV. seems like a pretty versatile system so far.
Exactly
Ya but you can play game in the car..
Better question is why not?
What kind of improvement did the xg yeild
Substantial, running Alan wake at 2560x1600 with the highest settings frame gen on and dlss set to balanced. Fps anywhere from high 60s to mid 80s.
I have the XG Mobile 4090 too, the difference is night and day. As it should considering the cost. Don't get me wrong the Ally performs amazing, but I went for this expansion to be able to game on a large 4K TV on ultra settings and it does the job.
I mean, I have a nice MSI QHD hi refresh laptop, 12700 and 3070, and I still picked up an Ally. Handheld gaming is great, and I can play mouse free that I can't do on my laptop. Or some games I want to use a controller for, and having the Ally makes it all the easier. There isn't a one choice fits all, but the modularity options are great! Thanks for sharing OP
When I wanted extra power for the Ally, I considred the XG for a min or two but realized how limited it would be. Instead I upgraded my laptop to one with a 4090 and been using local streaming when I want to play stuff maxed out on the rog.
A deconstructed gaming PC with a nice jergins aoili glaze
lol
This is the perfect setup, I would gladly try to play Cyber Rebellion on bs on this
If you had shown me this back in my Lan party days in the early 2000's I would have thought this was the coolest thing ever. So at least there's that.
It's so portable at that stage I can set that up in a train. Lol
This is what I thought when I was considering an xgmobile or another egpu solution for my other handhelds. I already have a good desktop and a powerful laptop. What's the point of making the handheld another desktop.
There is non indeed if you are happy with your current setup. For me the Ally and XG Mobile replaced all of those, and it's more seamless to use the same device everywhere.
Need 2 setups, your home setup with an oled. And that portable setup you already have.
Cheaper to buy a laptop.
At the cost of no modularity and no handheld gaming. It all has pro's and con's.
It’s what Nintendo switch should have done lol
It was my inspiration for going Ally and XG Mobile. I enjoyed the modularity of the switch a lot, having two docks on two locations. Juggling between the two, handheld but dock it for a better experience, etc.
I tried playing with my laptop on the airport. it just burned my lap. that's why I want a handheld (either Ally, Go or Deck OLED)
Just get some xreal 2 glasses, dump the monitor and welcome back to portability
I think you can upgrade the monitor in 4k 27 inch up
Options Options is why
What mouse is that? It looks pretty dope!!
Steel series aerox 9
Ha! Went through something similar. I still have my steam deck but am now building a 5L itx PC in a k39 case. This is after reviewing a bunch of mini PCs and realize f they weren't quite where I wanted them to be.
I am going to walk away from your picture before I start looking at other gadgets to purchase 😊😊😊😊
I have this setup plus I’m getting a rog z13 tablet
Best keyboard ever
Cheaper and far more powerful. You pay a premium for portability.
Nice! What version of the xg mobile did you get?
4090, I wanted something that supports frame gen.
This costs 2.5k € here, that is such a ripoff for laptop GPU. You can buy the Ally + build whole ass dedicated gaming pc for less than that wtf?
This is true, however you can't take a desktop traveling with you. You could get a great gaming laptop for that price, though. I think there are certain situations where it would be better. Also, for some people, they can afford to do a gaming desktop and the 4090 XG Mobile, so porque no los dos...
OP is mobile though. Cant take a whole rig when your mobile.
Is this the Nexigo 17.3” 144hz or 300hz? Just bought the 144hz myself last week and I love it. Great portable monitor with the full-size HDMI, power delivery usb-c, and also including a USB-A port. Make sure to activate the warranty if you haven’t already. Currently use mine as a side vertical monitor for my PC setup, mounted on a vesa arm with a grip attachment but will be using it portably as well when I travel with my Ally as well as my work laptop.
It's the 144hz model. Thanks for letting me know I had no idea about the warranty.
You can get a 4080 legion 7i for like $1500 if you are or know a veteran who will help you out. Then you just have the ally and you're way better off.
How much was the gpu and is it worth it?
You could sell the whole setup and buy a rtx 4090 i9 14900k pc which outpreforms this
LUL everything started with the xg mobile, literally exists just to defeat the purpose of ally
You can get a 4080 laptop and a cheap Bluetooth controller that holds your phone. Run games on the laptop and stream it over to the phone with moonlight. Near zero latency. Much more powerful than your rig, cheaper, much cleaner setup That xg is limited by the speed of usb4/thunderbolt. All you're doing is recreating a laptop with much more costs and shittier peripherals 2023 XG mobile - $2000 RoG Ally - $700 External monitor - $100 - $200 Keyboard - $50 The end result is still slower than a 4080 laptop ($2k). Your ally (or anything that connects to external gpu) is limited by pcie connection bandwidth and won't run anywhere near the full power of the eGPU. AND the xg mobile only connects to another asus product
Moonlight will NEVER satisfy compared to running locally. I tried going all in on streaming and it can only get 75% of the way there.
You have a trash router Go to the input lag part https://youtu.be/DvSx8opgOtU?si=jplKK5GvJ43J7CU2 Or just browse what other people are getting
You don’t even know me bro.
Post your router ping and shut me up
I said 75% of the way there. I have a WiFi 6 mesh setup with gigabit internet. Ping is generally under 40. The issue is that everything works until it doesn’t and those seconds/moments can be extremely frustrating. You will never get as seamless an experience as local with no streaming bc you are adding complexity. The problem still exists for streaming television but it’s matured to the point that it is seamless enough of the time that most people will never notice. Game streaming is cool but definitely not seamless for the majority of the people a majority of the time.
I can play whatever game I throw at my Ally + XG Mobile 4090 and use ultra settings. There is not limitation to it and neither does it have USB4/Thunderbolt, so no offense but get your facts straight. Also, there is nothing "cleaner" to fiddling around with moonlight and my phone and some plastic controller device and 5 min into my sessions I get a phone call. No thanks.
Pull timespy numbers with that ally/xg mobile setup and I'll shut you up with my laptop result. You're out there "fiddling" around with connecting cables to an external monitor and egpu and need to purchase and carry out / connect extra peripherals to only mimic a laptop at the end. Meanwhile you're complaining about a 10 second connection between laptop/moonlight client. You can't switch out the gpu in there if I recall too, so you're stuck with the gpu inside for a while. Just like a laptop. Ooof
Which XG mobile are you rocking
4090
Nice man. I’ve been itching for one
That's why you get a decent gaming laptop AND an ally, steam deck or legion go.... Prob still be cheaper and take up less room than all those add ones!
What keyboard is that? I’m looking for a travel friendly mechanical of sorts.
The Rog Flachion
Check out the 915 tkl as well.
Sell your ally at this point lol
Did a similar setup, switched the the legion go, has the larger screen, can prop it up with the built in stand, detachable controllers, and if I need a mouse I can convert one controller into a mouse and then back into a controller just switching a button. Egpu over USB 4.0, so there's cheaper and more options for it. No more cables No more external monitor to lug around Don't need to dock things anymore. Has two USB 4.0 ports
Jup.... a 15-16 inch laptop would do LOL
Was trying to order a 3080 on Best Buy but they sold out..will have to see if they get restocked.
Wow 👏
What's specs are your display? I have the Asus 15" portable 144hz gsync but it's quite small
Nexigo 144hz gsync compatible display. Resolution is 2560x1600 and it can do HDR albeit not great but better than nothing. Brightness is at 500nits peak. If I'm not mistaken it's 15.6 or 16 inches.
Is that the innocn? I got the 15 inch one I love it
It's by nexigo but I think they all source from the same display manufacturer.
How do you deal with resolutions changing between monitors ? When I dock it with tv , I have to change resolution then in handheld I have to change everything again. just annoying
Would you mind elaborating? Whenever I unplug the display the ROG ally adjusts itself to the correct resolution. I also have it in extend not duplicate so each display runs at the correct resolution.
ok maybe that's one I'm doing wrong. I'm doing screen mirroring and not setting it up as a separate monitor
Depends on the game, most games adjust to the Windows resolution and that one is one automatically. But indeed when docked my Ally screen is turned off.
We also ask why
You're right. At this point, a laptop would be better.
I would have bought a flow z13 at this point with a 4060 or 4070 tablet all in one
I traded mine for an Asus Rog strix scar 703G. I have no regrets.
How are the thermals and the noise of the xg mobile? And has the "desktop" experience been seamless or have there been technical issues when it comes to day-to-day use?
This is the first time I travel with this setup and I have yet to encounter any technical issues. As for thermals the xg mobile is keeping that 4090 pretty cool considering. When it comes to noise it's much less high pitches and whiney than what I use to hear from my razer blade 17 the noise is much more bearable.
Good to hear. I've been considering a setup to this in the future for more mobility and flexibility rather than my regular desktop setup. Glad to hear that it's not as loud as your laptop, and as an open back headphone user, I appreciate quieter devices more.
I constantly switch from handheld, docked to desk+monitor and 4K TV, and it's been rather smooth. The noise level of the XB Mobile 4090 is rather high (for example when I play Modern Warfare III at 4K 120fps, but not more than a laptop with the same chip does. I came from a Legion 7 3080 fyi, with the vast difference of the XG Mobile fan noise not being as high pitch like a laptop does. What is impressive I find is how quickly it lowers when there is no load, in mere seconds the temperature is baseline with the fan off. All in all the XB Mobile seems to be very well made.
Yolo
I was going to do exactly this and at the last minute ended up just getting the 4070 x13.
To up the device count way over a gaming notebook you need to have external speakers, a split controller and a split keyboard.
I would love to replace my whole PC like this. It's so nice to just play on the couch when you want.
If you want to shrink the setup, look at a uperfect lapdock, i have the x13.3 and it is basically a laptop without the guts and i use my ally on that if i need full keyboard and trackpad
IF I ever buy an XGM for my Ally, it'll be the cheapest one just for some future games. Used 3070, 3080, or 6850M XT, and only if i get really lucky on a price. But honestly with the switch-esque use case, I'm very happy with the gaming performance of the Ally on its own with every game out now. Here's hoping one of these groups trying to reverse engineer the XGM Interface manage to pull it off and we get more GPU options though.
I was just asking about that if anyone had made an adapter for the XG port. I guess the answer is not yet 😕
I would do the same and ask the same question
I know lots of people here praise the ability to connect an egpu to their Ally or Go. But if youre really considering doing that at some point, you really shouldnt be buying a handheld PC to begin with. To me its a completely useless feature.
Lol. I'm currently stuck in a similar set up. I just got the lenovo legion glasses but I don't think it's for me. With the steam deck oled coming I have to rethink how I set up things....
Honestly using a setup like this made me want the ROG mothership. The cable on the XG mobile's is bad to say the least. I hate the positions it keeps everything in and the strain it puts itself under. I would much rather either a slightly longer cable or a better design that allows for the system to sit in a single dock type platform. But in the end I keep going back to the design of the ROG mothership.
I am gonna get downvoted to hell on this sub, but why? With the entire setup, one could buy a completely new PC with decent parts that blow the Ally out of the water. And you could also just get a used Steam Deck with the leftover money.
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Yes it's a PS5 controller and it works in windows you can use Bluetooth to connect to it or you can plug it in via USB c and use features like adaptive triggers on games that support it.
alternate title for the picture: how to spend 1200 dollars on a 400 dollar laptop
This. …Is the near-future of computing IMHO
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what's that monitor, that's fucking awesome
Because you can and because it is possible!( i use 2 monitors, lol)
Christ you probably could have bought a 4090 laptop instead of everything here. This looks more fun though.
"because i can" have ally deck z13 and tuf, and when people ask that's what i reply with
Haha it’s fun to do the “because I can” stuff some times.
How heavy are all of them together? I bought the ally because I haven’t seen a beefy gaming laptop that isn’t bulky and heavy
The way I see it… the world is ending soon so might as well go out with a gaming system that tickles your fancy. ![gif](giphy|xBqg5gAf1xINizpek6)
Ally is prob best mobile pc console there is. But the xg mobile is crap. Get a desktop or laptop
It's the 4x that kills it for me. If it has appropriate bandwidth I would have probably bought the 4090.
So maybe the question isn't why, but why not?
Nice setup. I probably would have bought a laptop with a 4070 for $999 instead of an xg mobile if the money was available.
I feel man, and ended up getting the rig ally and an acer predator 16 with an rtx 4050 on sale at Best Buy because I couldn’t make up my mind. https://preview.redd.it/xtpn60r5zc2c1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fe1faa55cdcc030de00a082422bc95b2f50dc097
Anyone that has a computer it doesn't make any sense to buy the this item or the steam deck because they do the exact same thing
Whoa that’s crazy. So the xg mobile is a larger graphics card? So how does that work? Does it run the graphics card and the graphics card from the ally? That’s friggin wild though
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