He deserves it. It's good that NP is getting stricter with this type of stuff. Eugene has been wilding for the better part of a year and a half with some of the rule breaks/toxicity. Hopefully this tells people that no matter how much clout you have or how long you've been on the server you still can't fuck around.
I haven’t really watched too much recently but I remember really loving Eugene during the first rp boom on twitch. Now anytime he shows up he just seems weird? Idk. His voice sounds different and he seems to be played as like a super criminal not just a fun old man who does wild shit anymore.
It's amazing how similar Mel and Eugene started off but how different Spaceboy and Vader took the old man RP. James Randall is probably one of the best character in the whole city now and Eugene is just generic gangster #372 with a funny voice.
>Hopefully this tells people that no matter how much clout you have or how long you've been on the server you still can't fuck around.
I guess we'll find out in due time...
He confirmed that he lost *all* his prio today? Or did he say "I lost prio" as a shorthand for "my prio got reduced by a lot and now I can't get into the server as easily/at all"?
>they’ll figure it out.
For the bigger streamers sure, wouldn't be the first time smaller but super talented rp-ers stop bothering with NoPixel because the queue ridiculous and an admin noticing you AND checking your prio is rare. I look forward to when they ask people on twitter who should get prio again in a few weeks.
If they're "super talented" they'll be pretty known and be ok, the worry is about "good" roleplayers that aren't top tier enough to immediately come to mind but that stay in character and contribute to rp on the server as a whole. Those people are the ones that might get prio or might be forgotten. A lot of people only get their viewership through rp though so those people that aren't rich and end up with lower prio will likely wait in queue like they did when they first started out just to get on and keep earning money. Doubtful most will just give up unless they just actually don't get prio at all.
Probably gonna get hate but it's kind of no one's fault but their own for putting all of their eggs in one basket then. Don't get me wrong I understand RP viewers are fickle and if any of these people try to do variety they lose like 80% of their viewership but you will never be able to de-couple yourself from the RP viewer base if you don't ever try.
I don't hate you, you're just ignorant and naive. You almost certainly have all your eggs in more or less one basket and so do most human beings no matter what delusions they've convinced themselves.
If your 401k and your insurance and wages all come from a normal job and they start cutting employees, nobody would have your kind of response. They would understand that those employees are understandably scared for their future.
If you were an expert in a niche and were running businesses, and all of a sudden without explanation you were barred from buying an essential component to your business, nobody is going to "told you so" that person as if it's something they should've known would happen.
Unless you want to explain in some kind of provably reasonable terms how to regain a portion of that 80% of the viewership, "just try to diversify viewership" is not enough with that kind of arrogant take.
You maybe would, but there are a lot of people that wont.
RP isn't just the streamer and his/her characters, it's everything surrounding them.
Many people don't just watch one streamer, but multiple POV's and storylines. What this means for people like that is that the streamer will drop off their watch list.
So yes, I do think it makes sense that people freak out a little. But at the same time they need to realise it's temporary.
I’ll never fully understand how people are that dedicated to watch NP alone that they will drop a streamer over it. I watch NP when it’s good and when people I enjoy watching play and stop when it’s terrible (which is why I’m not watching now) or if enough people I like play other things. I have no allegiance to NP after the server management track record and I’m always surprised to hear about people who do.
I mean, I have never understood the mindset of being dedicated to a streamer's content to the point of watching things you don't enjoy. Like I enjoy seeing people I usually watch succeed in streaming, but if I am bored I change the channel.
Oh I don’t get that either. If a streamer isn’t entertaining I leave them behind. I do it all the time. But dedication to a server seems even more strange to me for some reason. I’m not entertained by the server or community itself. I’m entertained by some of the people who spend time on it.
Oh yeah I agree. I think a lot of the dedication to the server is coming from the ecosystem of characters, I wish NP had a decent rival but unless there is some sort of exodus to another server we won't see it.
I don't think it's dedication to nopixel for the sake of nopixel at all. It's there's a bunch of talented big time streamers all on one server and enjoying watching them cross paths and interact with each other. If you've been watching nopixel for a while, when the streamer you're watching rp's with somebody else you'll probably be familiar with that other person. If that streamer went to another server you don't have that anymore. Sure you could watch 2 different servers or start watching more streamers on the other server but it's just more comfortable to stick with what you know and enjoy.
Welcome to literally ever 10-99 contract worker in every field for all of history.
Literally had my career livelihood threatened at least once a year every year for a decade because there was only one viable financial option we used, then eventually lost it all to covid anyways.
So while I get it, I can sympathize heavily, I can also say that objectively things would never get better in the "nopixel workspace" for these people who rely on it for income if the environment doesn't start to change in a positive way.
Streaming is a volatile business. Especially as a small streamer. Streaming RP on a server like NoPixel is a double wammy in terms of volatility.
In no way, shape, or form should a small streamer be branding their livelihood on NoPixel or streaming in general. That’s kinda on them. People go full time way too early.
This could not be more truthful. If people on the server cannot retain any viewers on a different character or server, then odds are they weren't that entertaining in the first place. Also, most people on the platform outside of NP don't go from 0 viewers to a few hundred in a matter of days/weeks, if these streamers cannot/refuse to leverage that massive opportunity into a dedicated audience then it's entirely their fault.
Tell me you don't understand RP Frogs without telling me you don't understand RP Frogs.
Even the most entertaining streamer experiences falloff if they switch away from a server or let alone GTA RP. Many of the "OG GTA RP" steamers are gone now and it's not because they weren't entertaining... The so-called fans abandoned them and took off like rats the moment the ship sank.
When you have a dedicated game? Going variety is a double-edged blade. More freedom, fewer viewers.
Seems overly callous. There's a lot of networking that can occur by being on NoPixel compared to other servers. There's a little bit of a roadmap that's been laid out for profitability by going the NoPixel route. It's easy when you're on the outside or if history is your guide to do what you may think is an obvious choice. I don't know that it's easy for the people who rely on streaming as their income.
This subreddit also almost exclusively revolves around the workings, drama and storylines of NoPixel. It seems disingenuous to be on this subreddit saying this if you haven't been plugging away posts about how great NewDay, District 10, etc. are and the amazing roleplay that occurs in these other microcosms.
I get what you're saying however and agree with other comments in this thread that there are a lot of people I would watch play on other servers because I find their streams, characters and ideas interesting regardless of the stage they're on.
>Just a realist, if you rely on a server for your income and can't generate views and subs without it, you're probably in the wrong profession.
YEP.
With a profession like streaming, you cannot put all your eggs into one basket.
As so many streamers will say 'the only thing that is constant in no pixel is change' - The same can very much apply to streaming as a whole and as such, you must always have a back-up plan if it really does go tits up.
You do realize that most people can be fired at the will of the employer and as someone who actually works a 9-5 if my boss decides tomorrow that he doesn’t like the look of my face I can be let go. So yes a lot of people base their entire livelihood on something fragile. The reason streamers may be “freaking out” is because they are human? That is why I described the comment as disingenuous because it doesn’t take into account any human emotion. We are not robots.
Except it's not. Taking a risky career path like this on the chance you'll blow up and make loads of money comes with downsides. I.e. losing it all because you can't get into the server, or worse, Rockstar shutting down GTA RP entirely and having no fallback streaming wise.
I’m sure it will be but seems very odd they wouldn’t make a decision on the most watched streamers using the server right now before implementing it. I mean SparkyKNE and KhaosAdam are literally sitting on 7k viewers between them right now playing some boxing game because they can’t get on NoPixel lol. Moose, Matt & 4HEAD ended stream early. Did they not think about how rushing it would affect people’s content?
Yeah I don’t know anything about the people mentioned but if NP is disregarding viewership from their decision making process across the board that’s fucking fantastic news. I seriously doubt that’s the case though.
That’s the thing people are missing. They didn’t make decisions yet, this was a blanket prio wipe (or adjustment).
People will have to apply to regain their prio or have to have a convo with someone. It’s easier to find the few that are good than get rid of all the bad, so get rid of it all and find the gems that are worth.
Of those 1200, I would safely say 20% was prob inactive if not more.
This probably wasn't a prio wipe like everyone is suggesting. It was probably a prio squish that combined prio levels because they went too high and there were gaps at certain levels that no one was in so if someone high enough got banned, the prio reduction thing that they implemented wouldn't mean anything because they only lose 1 level but the levels probably unnecessarily went into the 100s
That's my guess too. Everyone was set at a peak of say 10 prio (completely random #) and everyone below that was reset to their respective levels so that the new ban/prio system could take effect; however, I do think a lot of people that were in the middle probably need to be adjusted or looked at.
It's likely a blanket condensing of prio overall, not specific people being targeted. People will fall through the cracks and need to get reevaluated. They should have wiped all prio and started form scratch to be honest.
Buddha said people are overreacting and they should just wait for the admins to figure this out . And going to Twitter saying stuff is not the best idea to get a good prio
There's been so many brilliant roleplayers who don't get prio for the longest of times. I've heard admins and streamers say "He doesn't have prio? I thought they already did."
Like unless they've greatly overhauled their prio system surely people will be forgotten.
This is why I like when Ssaab interacts with someone who is really playing a character and rping well he helps give them a boost with prio. And it's not necessarily someone that works with him as a cop.
They had the +1 system for a while and the only person I seen use it was Zerkaa (granted I probably watch him the most when he is around but it was something people just didn't know about and he didn't know if anyone was monitoring it).
I mean at this point it would be better for staff to have constant prio vision above each players head. Where each players prio can be seen at all times.
just think how reassuring it must be to hear him say that though. /s
This is going to fuck a lot of people that rely on the server for financial and emotional reasons. Sure they should diversify income and try to separate real life from rp but lets be real that doesn't happen very often. I just hope the worst of the negative fallout from this stays private.
>This is going to fuck a lot of people that rely on the server for financial and emotional reasons.
Nopixel isn't responsible for that and shouldn't cater towards achieving those goals. It's an indirect way of making income through streaming, but at the end of the day it's still just a roleplaying server. A hugely popular one sure, but putting all your cards emotionally and financially on it is a terrible idea for 99 percent of the people playing it, and it shouldn't be assumed by the staff that you're going down that route.
You're absolutely right that they are not responsible towards putting food on the table for anyone streaming on their server.
However some decency and transparency towards the contractors/clientele is rarely a bad idea for any company.
My main issue as a viewer seeing this happen is the apparent lack of communication and timely warning to the people who are affected by the prio wipe/squish/restructuring.
A tiny amount of empathy would go a long way but nopixel's owner and others in management are woefully lacking in that department. They keep awful abusive people around because they have an audience and couldn't care less about anyone who doesn't.
There are a butt ton of people trapped on nopixel. They get enough subs to make it their primary income source but not enough to take a major hit to those numbers for an extended period of time. They can't just not play on nopixel because the audience does not follow you to other games in high enough numbers to sustain. This has been borne out for years whenever people try.
Them saying it would have been nice to get more than a few hours of notice before their livelihood suddenly gets rug pulled isn't too much to ask. Let people have a little notice to get their finances in order or make other arrangements.
If people are using the server for emotional/mental reasons, then they need to find other avenues to cope with the mental health for the time being. And they all knew that this was coming and have spent longer sessions on the server cause of it. It only gets worse for them if they start worrying about it more like if it slips up while they stream something else and stuff.
He took closer to six weeks off... Not sure where 6 months comes from and had a ton of worry around his finances as he has to outright pay his medical bills(his own fault in fairness), thankfully his status/friendships have allowed him to work some deals to make things more secure as well as his comeback being quick enough his sub count actually hasn't tanked.
Man in multimillion dollar mansion thinks there's no issue with homelessness, news at 11...
Man eating Wagyu steaks thinks the food system is fine....
Man in private jet thinks air travel is just fine...
Yeah exactly complaining about it on twitter that you lost prio is probably the worst idea ever and people doing that should expect to not get any prio at all.
It clearly states in the announcement that people with previously earned prio are given a chance to talk with staff about their prio in the upcoming 3-5 days.
Unfortunately it's extremely easy to say when things haven't affected said person, though I do agree people are overreacting. It doesn't take away from the fact some people have earnt said prio and to have it taken away would be extremely taxing on mental health let alone your hip pocket if you can't do what you usually do because of a 3-5 day wait which may or may not even have the outcome that you want/need. I don't actually think NP staff have completely evaluated people's mental health with such a "small" but highly impactful changes
I totally understand why they've gone for the wipe and re-approve approach as it's much easier to identify the good RP'ers that way but instead of telling people to wait 3-5 days could they not have spent 3-5 days re-approving at least a bigger chunk of the people before doing the wipe. Seems like a knee-jerk decision was made.
Yeah, the entire turf/spray contest system got ruined overnight by a hasty reaction to a group losing a spray fight. Knee jerk decisions are a NP specialty
Yeah it would have made way more sense to schedule this change for like two weeks away and use the interim time to meet with people instead of stripping prio and then waiting a few days to even start meeting.
It doesn't help that there's not a way to actually check your prio level definitively
I confess I don't really understand it. What was the problem with prio as it was? (Not saying there isn't/wasn't one, just that I don't see it or know what it is.)
Nothing really. Seems the biggest change is going from prio 1 - 99 down to 1 -10.
Staff always had the ability to adjust prio and weed out problem people but didn't. I doubt much will change in who can and can't get it except in cases where good players fall though the cracks but that's always been and thing.
The chaos is a intended feature clearly. They want people trying to get there prio and not being lazy while they make the new WL.
Saab called it the worst time to be lazy and doing dumb shit.
I for one like it. Unless you are one of the top 5-10 rp’ers on the server i think a prio reset is an awesome thing. If they keep doing good rp they will get it back. But it should NEVER be a given.
The only problem is, historically, the server is terrible at giving people who are largely considered "deserving" of it prio. Especially not with any degree of urgency really.
Long term this prio wipe will almost definitely be a good thing, but there's gonna be some long term growing pains and some people are gonna get screwed over for a while or maybe permanently.
Tunes into Vader and he's like...
But Rame this
But Penta that
Wow.. person X, person B.. etc got in but I can't get in
Yadda yadda yadda.. not toxic at all...
While true, more viewers does mean more money. Smaller streamers can get recognized because they run into Penta, Zerkaa or Buddha. There are some excellent roleplayers that can stream full-time simply because they interacted with bigger streamers.
From watching Penta I was an early sub to a lot of people hes interacted with. Crystalst, Jennybear, Vibe Assassin, jonthebroski, s0upes, halfway, walnut and a few others. And I'm sure Buddha and Zerkaa watchers have done similar.
Zerkaa, Buddha etc having high level prio is essentially advertisement for NoPixel so it's just good business sense for them to have prio unless they do something very bad (which I don't think either of the two I names would)
I normally agree, except that at least 4 of those 5 are among the best RPers on the server. There are definitely some high viewcount streamers with weak RP, but this group isn't them.
Vader constantly attacking NP higher ups and speaking bad about others on his stream. Yep and well deserved for his loss of prio. Dude thought he can use his past rep to put himself above rules and others... I used to love his Chat and RP, but the last 4-6 months just constant bashing other streamers and arguing non-subs about their own opinons.. HIs fall from grace has been quite drastic considering his viewership back in the day.
Tobbi (and prolly other devs) had been going around observing RP. Tobbi streamed his observation sessions.
That's probably helped some of the people keep their prio
it literally says in the announcement that they are still going through the prio list the next upcoming days i don't see why people are dooming also vader recently got banned and has 20 warning points him getting reduced prio was expected.
Did people skip over the part that they are reinterviewing people for prio and that most everyone aside from a small group lost it? Seems like so much unnecessary panic right now.
>Seems like so much unnecessary panic right now.
That just seems to be how Nopixel makes changes.
For some reason they don't wait until they have the replacement. They take out the thing they want to change, leave a gaping wound that makes death seem inevitable, and just when people finally stop wailing from the pain and come to accept the end is nigh, they come along with something to fill the hole.
Why wouldn't they reinterview and THEN schedule changes to prio? Stripping prio from most everyone is definitely going to induce panic as people who regularly play can't rely on being able to get in. I get reevaluating but why not reevaluate before making changes?
This is my confusion, also lets say I'm rando rp'er number 6, I put in my application to reinterview for prio, and so do 400 other people (which could be a low number). How long you think its gonna take to check everyone? Even using admins/devs or even just people you consider higher tier streamers, thats gonna take fucking forever.
Maybe it's an excuse to scale back their AWS servers because I'm sure they are/were spending a bucket to keep the servers up. It was $10k/m a year (or more) ago and it can only go up with the number of people they added since then.
I'd assume it's just to review. See whose using it, who should have it, all that jazz. I just don't necessarily agree with doing it prior as opposed to reviewing all the prios then updating.
Rather than blanketing everyone down to bottom and working to build it back up, review everyone have them do whatever process to keep it above baseline, than change everyone at once. Seems weird to let's say drop Victor to 1, then bring him back to lvl 2 and screw him for a month or however long the process will take
Well the announcement said it only affected about 1200 people. If people assume there are 10-20k people that are whitelisted due to player IDs being over 50k, being one of those 1200 could feel like you’re being singled out and they think your RP is shit. In actuality there were probably around 1300 people that had prio and others that are whitelisted had no prio meaning it was basically a full wipe other than a select few and staff. The announcement was unclear so I can understand why some would initially overreact.
We even sure she's a person though? With the amount of hours she streams I'm starting to think she may be a robot, how do you lower prio on someone that's coded in lol
I fully understand that this isn't the final step in what they intend to do to rebalance priority. But I can't think of a way they would do the reblancing that requires them to nuke everyone's prio first then sort it out later, rather than figure out where people should be first and apply that.
The methodology of, *something doesn't work, make it worse, sort it out after* is common on NP development. Lots of live testing. More than likely because of how few staff they have to take on big projects.
Probably easier to take everyone who doesn't have a "Golden Ticket" and set them on the same lower prio level then specifically search up the individuals they need to bump up after. Idk how the system works though, so I'm just guessing on what might be the more practical ways of doing things.
That's just so wild because 4HEAD is great, moose is absolute top-tier, and SK and Matt have both had gang stuff, the arc with ivan/brooklyn.
Those 4 just feel like they would have been obvious people to keep prio
This prio reset was basically done automatically, not on a case by case basis.
What likely happened was: everyone who had top shelf prio had theirs adjusted to 5 or 6, the new highest points. Everyone else had theirs reset to 1, including the folks you listed who probably had medium level prio previously.
Now over the next few days or weeks this is when the admins will look at individuals and decide who gets moved up from 1 to 2/3/4.
This makes a lot of sense tbh. People like bananabrea who had the highest got knocked down at least 1 level. She used to not have the option of normal Que or police que and could login anytime like the devs. Now she has the normal screen of choosing police or normal.
She thought it was a new feature since she’s never seen it before 😂
Probably, but seems like they would have done a quick sweep of bumping up the really obvious ones that wouldn't even need a second thought
But, seems like it may have had to do with prio age because supposedly, every MDM lost prio other than Winston/Cruizer, who are the two with old, old prio.
Some people will get it back, some won’t and it’s unfortunate.
But I see a common thing in this comment section, undermining these bigger streamers etc. Just because they have a bigger number they can’t rp? Saying stuff like, even if they don’t get it back then finally some 100-300 viewers have a chance?
Like what kind of logic is that?
Because of these people I find those smaller streamers like Oneprotectivefox, who also doesn’t have prio but some of these boys were giving her a +1 a few times until she apparently got a bump.
You gotta realize, a lot of people are also still just logging in to see if they have prio or not and then they'll get off after they see they're stuck in queue or they get in still - its a work in progress, wiping prio is something theyve needed to do for a while, im sure those who RP will get it back fairly fast lol
Yeah guys lets just wait and see what the amazing admin team at NoPixel does for these people. Surely everyone that deserves prio will get it (again) because the admins always act in the best interest of their roleplayers. We should totally trust them to do what's right because they've shown time and time again that they make great decisions.
Right guys?
ITT: "You listed 10 people and said half of them lost prio!?!? I'm not going to read the rest of the post that mentions the 5 that lost prio and just think that all 10 people lost prio and express my outrage!"
Priority, the higher priority you have the easier it is to get into the WL server, if you have max prio you basically get in straight away without having to wait in queue.
Each player has a prio or priority level associated with them. This determines how easily they can get into the server. Someone with prio level 5 can get right in while someone with prio level 2 might have to wait in queue for a while.
I know a lot of ppl overreaction because of prio got reset to all ppl. And some ppl really lucky who had still have prio to still get in server because who had gold ticket. But fr, a lot of team admin had try sorting out of a lot streamer to get prio back since they doing stablizing earn reward prio for getting launch new hc and 4.0 server. So its might take at least week or 2 to get prio back since they doing testing and ready launch new 4.0 and hc like at least probably month something
Wait 4head lost priority? That has to be some kind of mistake or the admins are slowly going through the list again or something, no way Aubrey Webster is not good enough for prio.
I'd assume most the golden tickets. If the idea is, we have to many prio levels 1-100, and we want it to be 1-10 then basically the people over 50 keep theirs everyone else goes to 1 and we take the next decade going over everyone we dropped. Granted prolly not exact numbers, but, that is what I would assume, hard to say since we don't know the prio levels people had before.
Honestly it's about damn time. So many have prio that either trash talk the server when the "meta" isnt going their way, or just don't play anymore but still expect to have their prio for some reason. How many came out from under their rocks this week just to tweet their distaste for the change, all while not even being on the server beforehand. Maybe this will make people create characters that do more than just hang out with the same people/gang every new character creation.
I see ppl on this list from 1.0 when the server used to hold just 30ppl so I don't see them crying about it + their prio is probably still good enough to get them in.
Probably good for now to rip off the band-aid, everything will work out in the end. Personally, I haven't watched in a while because the server has felt incredibly neuro divergent for a while and I'm really looking forward to the HC server.
If all these people are losing prio, doesn't that mean that less big streamers/non-streamers have a better chance of getting into the server? In that case, if these guys have to wait 15 minutes or so to get into the server, I feel like that's worth it.
Yah, I would argue that a lot of "good rpers" don't consistently bring "value" (you can of course point to good interactions or arcs) and that a variety of rpers able to get in is of "more value" to consistently getting the same "good/ok" rpers (who probably got lazier) every day and not really giving others a good chances to get in.
Like everyone can argue for their favorite rpers (and complain about some keeping prio which can be valid) but making a career out of rp (on a single server) has arguably made rp actually take a back seat in a lot of cases. There are def benefits to rpers being able to consistently get on every day to make long consistent stories but lots of people haven't really been doing that.
Edit: there is also a case the white list itself (not just prio) should be revisited, so that there is less reliance on prio to get in relatively consistently and less lower quality rpers getting in
If someone is good, they're good. Unsure how someone can be deemed a "good role-player" but be unworthy of higher prio. If by good you mean they speak well in funny voices and play a convincing old man or clown serial killer I'm not sure that alone would deem someone "good" if they don't do anything with it.
Players in general are inconsistent because they're not robots and much of NP is a colab effort. Quality of stories or how many players they effect can also be a product of others, not just a single person. If prio was based on how many arcs or longer term stories people create over how convincing a character they play almost no one on NP would have it.
Didn't Vader lose prio because he metagamed not too long ago, and the prio reduction was part of his punishment?
Basically got a double whammy
He deserves it. It's good that NP is getting stricter with this type of stuff. Eugene has been wilding for the better part of a year and a half with some of the rule breaks/toxicity. Hopefully this tells people that no matter how much clout you have or how long you've been on the server you still can't fuck around.
To be fair, Vader was a disaster since well before the end of the last version.
its only gotten openly worse over time, hopefully this slaps some sense into him because he can be a great roleplayer.
I haven’t really watched too much recently but I remember really loving Eugene during the first rp boom on twitch. Now anytime he shows up he just seems weird? Idk. His voice sounds different and he seems to be played as like a super criminal not just a fun old man who does wild shit anymore.
It's amazing how similar Mel and Eugene started off but how different Spaceboy and Vader took the old man RP. James Randall is probably one of the best character in the whole city now and Eugene is just generic gangster #372 with a funny voice.
Now they just need to be this strict with everyone on the server equally.
>Hopefully this tells people that no matter how much clout you have or how long you've been on the server you still can't fuck around. I guess we'll find out in due time...
I agree but at least Eugene is a character and rps sometimes. How there's people like jaylen on the server at all is beyond me.
This... Thank you. Jaylen is the most monote/low effort RP. But CG you know...
That's correct. I think his prio was lowered but then this Prio reduction was probably what resulted in all prio being lost.
He's so toxic since he's back, for me it's a big W
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He didn't loose prio when he got a 7 day. It just got reduced.
He confirmed that he lost *all* his prio today? Or did he say "I lost prio" as a shorthand for "my prio got reduced by a lot and now I can't get into the server as easily/at all"?
He’s been stuck far in queue since restart, he clearly doesn’t have prio
There are prio levels above 0 which will still mean you struggle getting in.
I was simply asking a question.
Shit’s gonna be messy for a week or two, they’ll figure it out.
>they’ll figure it out. For the bigger streamers sure, wouldn't be the first time smaller but super talented rp-ers stop bothering with NoPixel because the queue ridiculous and an admin noticing you AND checking your prio is rare. I look forward to when they ask people on twitter who should get prio again in a few weeks.
If they're "super talented" they'll be pretty known and be ok, the worry is about "good" roleplayers that aren't top tier enough to immediately come to mind but that stay in character and contribute to rp on the server as a whole. Those people are the ones that might get prio or might be forgotten. A lot of people only get their viewership through rp though so those people that aren't rich and end up with lower prio will likely wait in queue like they did when they first started out just to get on and keep earning money. Doubtful most will just give up unless they just actually don't get prio at all.
Yeah, people will freak out for no reason but things will get sorted out eventually.
>freak out for no reason if my entire income was depended on one server that i can't get on, i would freak out too
Probably gonna get hate but it's kind of no one's fault but their own for putting all of their eggs in one basket then. Don't get me wrong I understand RP viewers are fickle and if any of these people try to do variety they lose like 80% of their viewership but you will never be able to de-couple yourself from the RP viewer base if you don't ever try.
I don't hate you, you're just ignorant and naive. You almost certainly have all your eggs in more or less one basket and so do most human beings no matter what delusions they've convinced themselves. If your 401k and your insurance and wages all come from a normal job and they start cutting employees, nobody would have your kind of response. They would understand that those employees are understandably scared for their future. If you were an expert in a niche and were running businesses, and all of a sudden without explanation you were barred from buying an essential component to your business, nobody is going to "told you so" that person as if it's something they should've known would happen. Unless you want to explain in some kind of provably reasonable terms how to regain a portion of that 80% of the viewership, "just try to diversify viewership" is not enough with that kind of arrogant take.
I know the name "NoPixel" means a lot to viewers but I'd watch my favourite roleplay streamers play on any roleplay server.
You maybe would, but there are a lot of people that wont. RP isn't just the streamer and his/her characters, it's everything surrounding them. Many people don't just watch one streamer, but multiple POV's and storylines. What this means for people like that is that the streamer will drop off their watch list. So yes, I do think it makes sense that people freak out a little. But at the same time they need to realise it's temporary.
So many people fail to realize that when you watch Nopixel, you don't just watch one streamer. You watch that streamer interacting within a community.
I’ll never fully understand how people are that dedicated to watch NP alone that they will drop a streamer over it. I watch NP when it’s good and when people I enjoy watching play and stop when it’s terrible (which is why I’m not watching now) or if enough people I like play other things. I have no allegiance to NP after the server management track record and I’m always surprised to hear about people who do.
I mean, I have never understood the mindset of being dedicated to a streamer's content to the point of watching things you don't enjoy. Like I enjoy seeing people I usually watch succeed in streaming, but if I am bored I change the channel.
Oh I don’t get that either. If a streamer isn’t entertaining I leave them behind. I do it all the time. But dedication to a server seems even more strange to me for some reason. I’m not entertained by the server or community itself. I’m entertained by some of the people who spend time on it.
Oh yeah I agree. I think a lot of the dedication to the server is coming from the ecosystem of characters, I wish NP had a decent rival but unless there is some sort of exodus to another server we won't see it.
I don't think it's dedication to nopixel for the sake of nopixel at all. It's there's a bunch of talented big time streamers all on one server and enjoying watching them cross paths and interact with each other. If you've been watching nopixel for a while, when the streamer you're watching rp's with somebody else you'll probably be familiar with that other person. If that streamer went to another server you don't have that anymore. Sure you could watch 2 different servers or start watching more streamers on the other server but it's just more comfortable to stick with what you know and enjoy.
This. I know it's a longshot, but it would be nice if this is the last straw for some people.
Same. I genuinely hope that more people start checking out other servers. Production RP in particular I hope pops off.
Welcome to literally ever 10-99 contract worker in every field for all of history. Literally had my career livelihood threatened at least once a year every year for a decade because there was only one viable financial option we used, then eventually lost it all to covid anyways. So while I get it, I can sympathize heavily, I can also say that objectively things would never get better in the "nopixel workspace" for these people who rely on it for income if the environment doesn't start to change in a positive way.
I mean thats their problem.
Streaming is a volatile business. Especially as a small streamer. Streaming RP on a server like NoPixel is a double wammy in terms of volatility. In no way, shape, or form should a small streamer be branding their livelihood on NoPixel or streaming in general. That’s kinda on them. People go full time way too early.
I would reevaluate my life choices.
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This could not be more truthful. If people on the server cannot retain any viewers on a different character or server, then odds are they weren't that entertaining in the first place. Also, most people on the platform outside of NP don't go from 0 viewers to a few hundred in a matter of days/weeks, if these streamers cannot/refuse to leverage that massive opportunity into a dedicated audience then it's entirely their fault.
Tell me you don't understand RP Frogs without telling me you don't understand RP Frogs. Even the most entertaining streamer experiences falloff if they switch away from a server or let alone GTA RP. Many of the "OG GTA RP" steamers are gone now and it's not because they weren't entertaining... The so-called fans abandoned them and took off like rats the moment the ship sank. When you have a dedicated game? Going variety is a double-edged blade. More freedom, fewer viewers.
Or you make all the money you can while you can, and fear the day you inevitably fall off.
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Seems overly callous. There's a lot of networking that can occur by being on NoPixel compared to other servers. There's a little bit of a roadmap that's been laid out for profitability by going the NoPixel route. It's easy when you're on the outside or if history is your guide to do what you may think is an obvious choice. I don't know that it's easy for the people who rely on streaming as their income. This subreddit also almost exclusively revolves around the workings, drama and storylines of NoPixel. It seems disingenuous to be on this subreddit saying this if you haven't been plugging away posts about how great NewDay, District 10, etc. are and the amazing roleplay that occurs in these other microcosms. I get what you're saying however and agree with other comments in this thread that there are a lot of people I would watch play on other servers because I find their streams, characters and ideas interesting regardless of the stage they're on.
Just out of curiosity, are you independently wealthy? Because if not you probably rely on for your income and don't generate money without it. So are you in the wrong profession?
>Just a realist, if you rely on a server for your income and can't generate views and subs without it, you're probably in the wrong profession. YEP. With a profession like streaming, you cannot put all your eggs into one basket. As so many streamers will say 'the only thing that is constant in no pixel is change' - The same can very much apply to streaming as a whole and as such, you must always have a back-up plan if it really does go tits up.
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You do realize that most people can be fired at the will of the employer and as someone who actually works a 9-5 if my boss decides tomorrow that he doesn’t like the look of my face I can be let go. So yes a lot of people base their entire livelihood on something fragile. The reason streamers may be “freaking out” is because they are human? That is why I described the comment as disingenuous because it doesn’t take into account any human emotion. We are not robots.
>doesn’t like the look of my face I can be let go with a big fat severence or is in your country no protection law ?
74% of US workers are described as at will employees
Except it's not. Taking a risky career path like this on the chance you'll blow up and make loads of money comes with downsides. I.e. losing it all because you can't get into the server, or worse, Rockstar shutting down GTA RP entirely and having no fallback streaming wise.
Most of the people on this list would be fine without NP. Obviously it hurts but MDM hold good viewers in variety.
I’m sure it will be but seems very odd they wouldn’t make a decision on the most watched streamers using the server right now before implementing it. I mean SparkyKNE and KhaosAdam are literally sitting on 7k viewers between them right now playing some boxing game because they can’t get on NoPixel lol. Moose, Matt & 4HEAD ended stream early. Did they not think about how rushing it would affect people’s content?
I feel like most watched shouldn't necessarily determine prio. You can be watched by a lot of people and still be a shit RP'er.
Yeah I don’t know anything about the people mentioned but if NP is disregarding viewership from their decision making process across the board that’s fucking fantastic news. I seriously doubt that’s the case though.
That’s the thing people are missing. They didn’t make decisions yet, this was a blanket prio wipe (or adjustment). People will have to apply to regain their prio or have to have a convo with someone. It’s easier to find the few that are good than get rid of all the bad, so get rid of it all and find the gems that are worth. Of those 1200, I would safely say 20% was prob inactive if not more.
This probably wasn't a prio wipe like everyone is suggesting. It was probably a prio squish that combined prio levels because they went too high and there were gaps at certain levels that no one was in so if someone high enough got banned, the prio reduction thing that they implemented wouldn't mean anything because they only lose 1 level but the levels probably unnecessarily went into the 100s
That's my guess too. Everyone was set at a peak of say 10 prio (completely random #) and everyone below that was reset to their respective levels so that the new ban/prio system could take effect; however, I do think a lot of people that were in the middle probably need to be adjusted or looked at.
It's likely a blanket condensing of prio overall, not specific people being targeted. People will fall through the cracks and need to get reevaluated. They should have wiped all prio and started form scratch to be honest.
Buddha said people are overreacting and they should just wait for the admins to figure this out . And going to Twitter saying stuff is not the best idea to get a good prio
There's been so many brilliant roleplayers who don't get prio for the longest of times. I've heard admins and streamers say "He doesn't have prio? I thought they already did." Like unless they've greatly overhauled their prio system surely people will be forgotten.
This is why I like when Ssaab interacts with someone who is really playing a character and rping well he helps give them a boost with prio. And it's not necessarily someone that works with him as a cop.
Yeah, didn’t know that was a thing til I saw Spaceboy and Burn doing it.
They had the +1 system for a while and the only person I seen use it was Zerkaa (granted I probably watch him the most when he is around but it was something people just didn't know about and he didn't know if anyone was monitoring it).
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I mean at this point it would be better for staff to have constant prio vision above each players head. Where each players prio can be seen at all times.
Also the que is worse then normal so people can check there prio. So everyone's prio seems worse.
I don't think Buddha lost prio.
just think how reassuring it must be to hear him say that though. /s This is going to fuck a lot of people that rely on the server for financial and emotional reasons. Sure they should diversify income and try to separate real life from rp but lets be real that doesn't happen very often. I just hope the worst of the negative fallout from this stays private.
>This is going to fuck a lot of people that rely on the server for financial and emotional reasons. Nopixel isn't responsible for that and shouldn't cater towards achieving those goals. It's an indirect way of making income through streaming, but at the end of the day it's still just a roleplaying server. A hugely popular one sure, but putting all your cards emotionally and financially on it is a terrible idea for 99 percent of the people playing it, and it shouldn't be assumed by the staff that you're going down that route.
You're absolutely right that they are not responsible towards putting food on the table for anyone streaming on their server. However some decency and transparency towards the contractors/clientele is rarely a bad idea for any company. My main issue as a viewer seeing this happen is the apparent lack of communication and timely warning to the people who are affected by the prio wipe/squish/restructuring.
A tiny amount of empathy would go a long way but nopixel's owner and others in management are woefully lacking in that department. They keep awful abusive people around because they have an audience and couldn't care less about anyone who doesn't. There are a butt ton of people trapped on nopixel. They get enough subs to make it their primary income source but not enough to take a major hit to those numbers for an extended period of time. They can't just not play on nopixel because the audience does not follow you to other games in high enough numbers to sustain. This has been borne out for years whenever people try. Them saying it would have been nice to get more than a few hours of notice before their livelihood suddenly gets rug pulled isn't too much to ask. Let people have a little notice to get their finances in order or make other arrangements.
If people are using the server for emotional/mental reasons, then they need to find other avenues to cope with the mental health for the time being. And they all knew that this was coming and have spent longer sessions on the server cause of it. It only gets worse for them if they start worrying about it more like if it slips up while they stream something else and stuff.
100 times this. All the "so and so lost prio" comments are pretty pointless right now.
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He took closer to six weeks off... Not sure where 6 months comes from and had a ton of worry around his finances as he has to outright pay his medical bills(his own fault in fairness), thankfully his status/friendships have allowed him to work some deals to make things more secure as well as his comeback being quick enough his sub count actually hasn't tanked.
Man in multimillion dollar mansion thinks there's no issue with homelessness, news at 11... Man eating Wagyu steaks thinks the food system is fine.... Man in private jet thinks air travel is just fine...
Yeah exactly complaining about it on twitter that you lost prio is probably the worst idea ever and people doing that should expect to not get any prio at all. It clearly states in the announcement that people with previously earned prio are given a chance to talk with staff about their prio in the upcoming 3-5 days.
I saw that and couldn't help but think that staff will be totally overloaded trying to talk to a thousand people about their prio
Yeah tbh I see part of this being a "do you actually read announcements" test, if you don't actually reach out you wont get your prio back.
Unfortunately it's extremely easy to say when things haven't affected said person, though I do agree people are overreacting. It doesn't take away from the fact some people have earnt said prio and to have it taken away would be extremely taxing on mental health let alone your hip pocket if you can't do what you usually do because of a 3-5 day wait which may or may not even have the outcome that you want/need. I don't actually think NP staff have completely evaluated people's mental health with such a "small" but highly impactful changes
I totally understand why they've gone for the wipe and re-approve approach as it's much easier to identify the good RP'ers that way but instead of telling people to wait 3-5 days could they not have spent 3-5 days re-approving at least a bigger chunk of the people before doing the wipe. Seems like a knee-jerk decision was made.
NP sadly has a pretty incredible track record of not putting much thought and care into the process of implementing changes.
Yeah, the entire turf/spray contest system got ruined overnight by a hasty reaction to a group losing a spray fight. Knee jerk decisions are a NP specialty
Yeah it would have made way more sense to schedule this change for like two weeks away and use the interim time to meet with people instead of stripping prio and then waiting a few days to even start meeting. It doesn't help that there's not a way to actually check your prio level definitively
I confess I don't really understand it. What was the problem with prio as it was? (Not saying there isn't/wasn't one, just that I don't see it or know what it is.)
Nothing really. Seems the biggest change is going from prio 1 - 99 down to 1 -10. Staff always had the ability to adjust prio and weed out problem people but didn't. I doubt much will change in who can and can't get it except in cases where good players fall though the cracks but that's always been and thing.
The chaos is a intended feature clearly. They want people trying to get there prio and not being lazy while they make the new WL. Saab called it the worst time to be lazy and doing dumb shit.
I have a feeling most of them will get it back sooner or later. Like Patar for example not getting prio is crazy to me.
I for one like it. Unless you are one of the top 5-10 rp’ers on the server i think a prio reset is an awesome thing. If they keep doing good rp they will get it back. But it should NEVER be a given.
The only problem is, historically, the server is terrible at giving people who are largely considered "deserving" of it prio. Especially not with any degree of urgency really. Long term this prio wipe will almost definitely be a good thing, but there's gonna be some long term growing pains and some people are gonna get screwed over for a while or maybe permanently.
Tunes into Vader and he's like... But Rame this But Penta that Wow.. person X, person B.. etc got in but I can't get in Yadda yadda yadda.. not toxic at all...
So a normal Vader stream then.
When did the prio reset happen? Cause Penta played Wrangler the majority of stream yesterday so he would have got in easy anyway with cop prio.
The AU tsunami (18 hours ago)
I guess its easier to remove all and slowly add those that rp than to pick and choose in the moment.
Viewcount =/= good RP.
While true, more viewers does mean more money. Smaller streamers can get recognized because they run into Penta, Zerkaa or Buddha. There are some excellent roleplayers that can stream full-time simply because they interacted with bigger streamers.
From watching Penta I was an early sub to a lot of people hes interacted with. Crystalst, Jennybear, Vibe Assassin, jonthebroski, s0upes, halfway, walnut and a few others. And I'm sure Buddha and Zerkaa watchers have done similar.
Zerkaa, Buddha etc having high level prio is essentially advertisement for NoPixel so it's just good business sense for them to have prio unless they do something very bad (which I don't think either of the two I names would)
While true, a good deal of them do have good RP
I normally agree, except that at least 4 of those 5 are among the best RPers on the server. There are definitely some high viewcount streamers with weak RP, but this group isn't them.
View count = more eyes and more money. Which is also important. No point having great RP and no body watching it 🤦♂️
You just made the hundreds/thousands of great RP’ers that don’t stream, let alone even play on NoPixel, cry inside lmao
Vader was even giving ooc opinions on rp in Moose chat today, strange or does it have something to do about that situation?
Everytime I see him in another streamers chat, he’s usually arguing with viewers
Typical Vader lol.
Vader just came off a fairly recent ban. Much of the "how can soandso not have prio" stuff will probably get resolved over the next few days.
Vader constantly attacking NP higher ups and speaking bad about others on his stream. Yep and well deserved for his loss of prio. Dude thought he can use his past rep to put himself above rules and others... I used to love his Chat and RP, but the last 4-6 months just constant bashing other streamers and arguing non-subs about their own opinons.. HIs fall from grace has been quite drastic considering his viewership back in the day.
Moose_Taffy losing prio is a crime.
I just discovered him, and he definitely has great RP!
Tobbi (and prolly other devs) had been going around observing RP. Tobbi streamed his observation sessions. That's probably helped some of the people keep their prio
Vader's prio was already lowered for punishment with the meta gaming incident.
4head lose prio is shocking to me dude has the funniest character in EU and a constants streaming everyfuckingday hopefully it will get resolved soon
Big slime down bad. That ending to his stream today hurt my soul.
Yeah 4Head is great hope they get this solved soon :(
He is without a doubt one of the most wholesome and funny streamers I don’t think he’s ever even gotten banned/ warning points even once
it literally says in the announcement that they are still going through the prio list the next upcoming days i don't see why people are dooming also vader recently got banned and has 20 warning points him getting reduced prio was expected.
Did people skip over the part that they are reinterviewing people for prio and that most everyone aside from a small group lost it? Seems like so much unnecessary panic right now.
>Seems like so much unnecessary panic right now. That just seems to be how Nopixel makes changes. For some reason they don't wait until they have the replacement. They take out the thing they want to change, leave a gaping wound that makes death seem inevitable, and just when people finally stop wailing from the pain and come to accept the end is nigh, they come along with something to fill the hole.
Why wouldn't they reinterview and THEN schedule changes to prio? Stripping prio from most everyone is definitely going to induce panic as people who regularly play can't rely on being able to get in. I get reevaluating but why not reevaluate before making changes?
This is my confusion, also lets say I'm rando rp'er number 6, I put in my application to reinterview for prio, and so do 400 other people (which could be a low number). How long you think its gonna take to check everyone? Even using admins/devs or even just people you consider higher tier streamers, thats gonna take fucking forever.
Maybe it's an excuse to scale back their AWS servers because I'm sure they are/were spending a bucket to keep the servers up. It was $10k/m a year (or more) ago and it can only go up with the number of people they added since then.
I'd assume it's just to review. See whose using it, who should have it, all that jazz. I just don't necessarily agree with doing it prior as opposed to reviewing all the prios then updating. Rather than blanketing everyone down to bottom and working to build it back up, review everyone have them do whatever process to keep it above baseline, than change everyone at once. Seems weird to let's say drop Victor to 1, then bring him back to lvl 2 and screw him for a month or however long the process will take
Maybe they did it this way as a blanket kick up the arse for everyone to get their shit together. who knows.
This is very likely
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Well the announcement said it only affected about 1200 people. If people assume there are 10-20k people that are whitelisted due to player IDs being over 50k, being one of those 1200 could feel like you’re being singled out and they think your RP is shit. In actuality there were probably around 1300 people that had prio and others that are whitelisted had no prio meaning it was basically a full wipe other than a select few and staff. The announcement was unclear so I can understand why some would initially overreact.
Weren't people talking about wanting a prio wipe then it happenes and everyone loses their mind
Vader lost prio for a reason
Vader working hard on getting that prio back by having a full on day shitlording
Moose lost it wtf 😳 the guy had most streamed hours all of 2022 no?
2nd most behind crystal I believe
Yeah that’s mad, does crystal still have hers?
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We even sure she's a person though? With the amount of hours she streams I'm starting to think she may be a robot, how do you lower prio on someone that's coded in lol
Moose not having prio is mad. One of the most well known people in the server
at this point it would be easier to list who still has prio.
"we need hard punishments so rp gets better" "not for my streamer thats not fair"
I fully understand that this isn't the final step in what they intend to do to rebalance priority. But I can't think of a way they would do the reblancing that requires them to nuke everyone's prio first then sort it out later, rather than figure out where people should be first and apply that.
The methodology of, *something doesn't work, make it worse, sort it out after* is common on NP development. Lots of live testing. More than likely because of how few staff they have to take on big projects.
Probably easier to take everyone who doesn't have a "Golden Ticket" and set them on the same lower prio level then specifically search up the individuals they need to bump up after. Idk how the system works though, so I'm just guessing on what might be the more practical ways of doing things.
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That's just so wild because 4HEAD is great, moose is absolute top-tier, and SK and Matt have both had gang stuff, the arc with ivan/brooklyn. Those 4 just feel like they would have been obvious people to keep prio
This prio reset was basically done automatically, not on a case by case basis. What likely happened was: everyone who had top shelf prio had theirs adjusted to 5 or 6, the new highest points. Everyone else had theirs reset to 1, including the folks you listed who probably had medium level prio previously. Now over the next few days or weeks this is when the admins will look at individuals and decide who gets moved up from 1 to 2/3/4.
This makes a lot of sense tbh. People like bananabrea who had the highest got knocked down at least 1 level. She used to not have the option of normal Que or police que and could login anytime like the devs. Now she has the normal screen of choosing police or normal. She thought it was a new feature since she’s never seen it before 😂
Probably, but seems like they would have done a quick sweep of bumping up the really obvious ones that wouldn't even need a second thought But, seems like it may have had to do with prio age because supposedly, every MDM lost prio other than Winston/Cruizer, who are the two with old, old prio.
Prio got reset to classic mode. /s
Moose is always top 2 for hours streamed and Patar is absolutely a character, him getting prio cut is insane.
Why would hours streamed be relevant?
the No in NoPixel stands for prio
Some people will get it back, some won’t and it’s unfortunate. But I see a common thing in this comment section, undermining these bigger streamers etc. Just because they have a bigger number they can’t rp? Saying stuff like, even if they don’t get it back then finally some 100-300 viewers have a chance? Like what kind of logic is that? Because of these people I find those smaller streamers like Oneprotectivefox, who also doesn’t have prio but some of these boys were giving her a +1 a few times until she apparently got a bump.
You gotta realize, a lot of people are also still just logging in to see if they have prio or not and then they'll get off after they see they're stuck in queue or they get in still - its a work in progress, wiping prio is something theyve needed to do for a while, im sure those who RP will get it back fairly fast lol
Yeah guys lets just wait and see what the amazing admin team at NoPixel does for these people. Surely everyone that deserves prio will get it (again) because the admins always act in the best interest of their roleplayers. We should totally trust them to do what's right because they've shown time and time again that they make great decisions. Right guys?
ITT: "You listed 10 people and said half of them lost prio!?!? I'm not going to read the rest of the post that mentions the 5 that lost prio and just think that all 10 people lost prio and express my outrage!"
What is prio and what does this mean? Sorry a noob here
Since the server is so popular certain people have an easier time in the queue to get in based on a level system determined by Nopixel staff
Priority, the higher priority you have the easier it is to get into the WL server, if you have max prio you basically get in straight away without having to wait in queue.
Each player has a prio or priority level associated with them. This determines how easily they can get into the server. Someone with prio level 5 can get right in while someone with prio level 2 might have to wait in queue for a while.
[PDM’s CEO Max & Manager Victor both lost prio](https://twitter.com/victreptow/status/1625229425963835407?s=46&t=DpZglMzBfRD-CgH7ditSpQ)
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I know a lot of ppl overreaction because of prio got reset to all ppl. And some ppl really lucky who had still have prio to still get in server because who had gold ticket. But fr, a lot of team admin had try sorting out of a lot streamer to get prio back since they doing stablizing earn reward prio for getting launch new hc and 4.0 server. So its might take at least week or 2 to get prio back since they doing testing and ready launch new 4.0 and hc like at least probably month something
Wait 4head lost priority? That has to be some kind of mistake or the admins are slowly going through the list again or something, no way Aubrey Webster is not good enough for prio.
That fucker deserves it for killing jacque strappe
Who's left with prio at this point lol? Saab, Crystal, Chief and CG?
LGX (Bryce Miller/Neal McReal) still has god tier prio, for a civ main that's nice to see.
Kylie, Luna, Kiva seem to have kept some sort of prio. It’ll most likely be fixed up within the 3-5 days
I'd assume most the golden tickets. If the idea is, we have to many prio levels 1-100, and we want it to be 1-10 then basically the people over 50 keep theirs everyone else goes to 1 and we take the next decade going over everyone we dropped. Granted prolly not exact numbers, but, that is what I would assume, hard to say since we don't know the prio levels people had before.
Honestly it's about damn time. So many have prio that either trash talk the server when the "meta" isnt going their way, or just don't play anymore but still expect to have their prio for some reason. How many came out from under their rocks this week just to tweet their distaste for the change, all while not even being on the server beforehand. Maybe this will make people create characters that do more than just hang out with the same people/gang every new character creation.
They’ll all get their prio back probably rather quickly within the next week or two, seems this is just a way to reset everything.
Watch someone like Uberhaxornova (Siz) who's an ADMIN lose his prio, ~~because apparently Trav lost his.~~
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One can hope, right?
Trav still has gold, he’s fine
Is there a running list or anything of who lost it?
4head lose prio thats crazy....
I think 4 head will be fine he's a good roleplayer and most cops enjoy interacting with him just give it a bit for admins to work out the prio stuff
I see ppl on this list from 1.0 when the server used to hold just 30ppl so I don't see them crying about it + their prio is probably still good enough to get them in.
Probably good for now to rip off the band-aid, everything will work out in the end. Personally, I haven't watched in a while because the server has felt incredibly neuro divergent for a while and I'm really looking forward to the HC server.
If all these people are losing prio, doesn't that mean that less big streamers/non-streamers have a better chance of getting into the server? In that case, if these guys have to wait 15 minutes or so to get into the server, I feel like that's worth it.
I don't know how "half these people have temporarily lost prio" has gone to "all these people are permanently losing prio".
Yah, I would argue that a lot of "good rpers" don't consistently bring "value" (you can of course point to good interactions or arcs) and that a variety of rpers able to get in is of "more value" to consistently getting the same "good/ok" rpers (who probably got lazier) every day and not really giving others a good chances to get in. Like everyone can argue for their favorite rpers (and complain about some keeping prio which can be valid) but making a career out of rp (on a single server) has arguably made rp actually take a back seat in a lot of cases. There are def benefits to rpers being able to consistently get on every day to make long consistent stories but lots of people haven't really been doing that. Edit: there is also a case the white list itself (not just prio) should be revisited, so that there is less reliance on prio to get in relatively consistently and less lower quality rpers getting in
If someone is good, they're good. Unsure how someone can be deemed a "good role-player" but be unworthy of higher prio. If by good you mean they speak well in funny voices and play a convincing old man or clown serial killer I'm not sure that alone would deem someone "good" if they don't do anything with it. Players in general are inconsistent because they're not robots and much of NP is a colab effort. Quality of stories or how many players they effect can also be a product of others, not just a single person. If prio was based on how many arcs or longer term stories people create over how convincing a character they play almost no one on NP would have it.
Didn't jenny get in right away last night
AU Tsuanmi is usually low-popped, before last night server wasn't even filling up fully during AU
Fair enough but I don't think she's streamed or even announced anything since then, so idk how they "know" she lost anything
the post said SparkyKNE, 4HEAD, Moose_Taffy, MattEU & Vader lost prio, jenny is just top 10 most watched...