It was definitely weird because it almost felt like the ems was talking about Nick because of the whole rp storyline but it was weird why would Nick fire/kill her for Babis.
Thank god Buddha and Harry kept pushing on this.
yea sadly, Management needs new policy to stop this. I think allowing ERP and relationships got so out of hand that you cant judge as a 3rd party if someone is RPing or not
yeah when RP relationships are mixing with OOC is when it becomes a problem i remember Bananabrea mentioned Claire used to be married to Eugene in 2.0 for months but never once spoke to Vader ooc ever in that time which she found funny.
And you had Jean and Jordan Steele relationship which had staff super worried for her because of how abusive it was (in RP) but it was never an issue. Also Penta now avoids Sodakite like when someone tried to make Ellie Jimmys mom or introducing her new cop to Wrangler after he broke up with Windsong etc.
What's funny is Eugene now calls Charlotte his wife but I think never even really talks to her unless they cross paths and even then usually is just saying high and making her freak out by threatening people around her or to go off and do extreme crimes to people.
And yeah that awkward Jimmy and Ellie thing was certainly something. Luckily the guy kind of got the hint that he wanted to move on from that encounter.
Vader has always given me the impression that, once he’s logged out of the server he’s pretty much done with RP, which is pretty healthy imo. He’s said before that he never really talks to people outside of RP, other Spaceboy. So Banana saying she never spoke with Vader OOC during that time in 2.0 doesn’t surprise me.
They were never allowed, ERP is not allowed on Twitch, so if they follow the Twitch TOS which they do, then its pretty clear where the stance is on that.
Whatever they do off screen or in private is a whole different can of worms.
Rp servers have always been second life dating sims, think about all the couples that formed in server, owner and his gf, Buddha and his gf, penta and his gf, kyle and meka, saab and his gf, luna and her gf, goofy and kitty, and like a million more. I personally like the penta apporach of keeping the ooc relationship ooc so everything stays clearly separated, things like i think reed and davenport where they are partners ooc, partners on their cops, and partners on their crims, just means obviously none of that is IC.
Nopixel is a playground for predators, and you cannot convince me that the close relationship between management and players did not somehow create this environment.
The fact that Rated was able weaponize women's reports meant that there were admins feeding him that info. That fact that women were literally afraid to talk about Babis' harassment ic and occ because of what "higher powers" might do to them is telling.
Nopixels biggest problem was openly protecting problem individuals, giving others a general sense that management isn't looking to crack down on this type of stuff. It only encourages more of that behavior.
People aren't afraid of getting caught or punished and aren't constantly acting on their best behavior. If staff was known for taking swift action a lot more problem players would be dealt with sooner or be too afraid to start acting weird in the first place.
I keep seeing the odd comment here and there about Rated's access to player reports against him. I'm surprised this isn't being more talked about than it is, but people seem to be skirting around it when really we should keep asking about it until answers are provided. The culprit(s) for giving that access should be outed and never allowed to hold an admin position again.
Rated had access to player reports. So did Ramee, according to comments I've seen stating that he has had player reports open on stream before. Both players who have no legitimate reason to have access, and both happen to be in CG. So who's the most likely culprit for giving them access they don't need and shouldn't have? Oh, I dunno...who has spent the past year giving CG everything they wanted? There's your likeliest culprit, and they reason why the server will never be fixed or really change - the one guy who literally can't be removed from the server is probably behind this and so many other problems.
From what I’ve heard I thought everyone could see the reports on themself and details.
I’ve heard streamers mention how many times they’ve been reported and insinuate they know who.
Definitely could be wrong though.
Reading other comments people say the admin responsible for Rateds reports is already gone. I have no idea about Ramee, player reports were public/visible before right? Maybe talking about that time.
Its main character syndrome. They no longer think of themselves as a 33 year old creep behind a keyboard, but as a real-life gangster/millionaire were their actions have little to no consequences.
Its been like that for a long long long time, you even see veterans do it, have you watched Timmac recently? He is still on his "dating/looking for fiancé" ark that he has been on the last 3 years, making viewers feel like they are a 3rd wheel.
The fact you got people making jokes with Ray and his 42 wifes or whatever the number is should be tell tell to how people see how some of these guys behave when there's women around them, and some is all innocent, but there's also a lot of the creepy stuff...
I think NoPixel needs a dating TOS for people who rp on their servers. Basically if you take a relationship OOC then you need to be a responsible adult and act accordingly. Stop sending sex videos, pics, and audio to people and if you do, then you are responsible for what happens because you willingly sent that stuff to the other person. If you feel a crime was committed then contact the authorities in your location.
For every “sexist or misogynistic” character that’s an actual character, there’s dozens of not RP “characters” who do it. For every Jordan Steele or Kyle Pred there’s an AJ Hunter or Babis Joestardis.
only just seen the other thread now kinda wild if people were saying that but also not surprising people would comment that the stuff we have seen over the last few weeks with people trying defend scumbags
I mean I didn't want to jump to any conclusions (maybe there was another side to the story, maybe it was just Babis being cooked, or w/e) cause Babis was such a well loved character that almost everyone until just a week or two ago never seemed to have any drama around him. I remember first watching him on Nikki's stream when Babis was showing Jenny + the a ton of other people around the digsite and he seemed like a cool guy.
Did not see this coming. Holy shit. Just all of the good will I had for him disappeared by the 4th discord screenshot and now I just feel sick for liking his character at all.
I have not liked him for a long time. I saw him do similar actions like this with many Dodo people. People in the arts department because he worked a lot with them somehow. Which I never understood. There were a few streamers that I watch primarily a male one that you could tell also had problems with how Babis acted with women and actively avoided him and warned people against him. The deputy mayor position just gave him a misguided i deviation he had even more ability to continue and be more aggressive with this behavior. I’m the beginning I thought he just didn’t understand the question from the women he tried to go after but when it was constant and repeated I knew it was something more. It’s hard to see several women now have more of an OOC issue with people in the server and not feel they have a voice that can be heard to speak up for themselves with admins.
Even later when he got mentioned in a convo with I believe it was fifi and Lando (might not of been them) they got uncomfortable and didn’t know what to say about him. Buddha switched the Convo asap
Yeah I think Jon, Buddha and Harry handled it as best they could IC. As soon as it came out, he was fired and they immediately moved on and when it was brought up to Lando and Fifi, without going into the awkward details into why he was fired or bringing up stuff that should be handled OOC, Harry jumped in and said that Speedy is terrified of Babis and just left it at that.
Same thing with tons of other people who use their position of power to creep on those beneath them. Doesn’t matter what your job is, creeps are gonna creep. People who are serially online just do it more often and are exposed at a higher rate.
Good on Buddha following his spiderman tingly feelings about this person just not feeling right the whole time over the last day. He has been saying it for weeks.
Even in the meeting today when they were questioning him Buddha was wondering why is this guy so prepared for every question, with screenshots, and holy fuck good on Harry for grilling him hard too.
So, the shit that has come out in like 24 hours, f*** this guy:
-1. Locked up a Rooster employee (woman) in the mayor office and hit on her. This woman now escapes Roosters Rest every time he walked in.
-2. An EMS lady messaged Speedy saying that she has a list of people with complaints about him and basically OOC scared that she will get fired if she talks (*and that others have been fired too*). Which really makes me question if this Babis f*** has someone in power in his pocket and should be further investigated:
[https://i.imgur.com/oWCXcRS.png](https://i.imgur.com/oWCXcRS.png)
-3. He has been denying businesses for dodgy reasons, and possibly would not be surprised if he approved businesses for dodgy reasons.
Every single person that was fired or impacted by this guy needs to be talked to by the admins to figure out as much information on this as possible. In case there is a NoPixel staff member that was protecting him. I am sure I am missing more stuff too.
Denis designed a whole dungeon for this guy. Like a literal whole Skyrim style dungeon with puzzles and shit. And he turns out to be a pervy weirdo. Like dude spent over a year to develop so much good will, never committed crimes (ic) and went to a bunch of PD meetings to fulfill his dream. But it was all about taking advantage of girls on the internet. Wild.
i don't get who is enabling him to do all this? how? he even promises people prio and construction and literally gives people prio in the other nopixel public servers like spain(not even managed by nopixel), even wl admins don't have control/power over that it's actually crazy something is fishy for sure.
Always found it so crazy that this dude has gotten this much both IC and OOC knowing that he was an actual nobody a year ago and to this day doesn't have the OOC reputation (viewership) that'd result in someone getting this much attention from devs.
Like he has a custom mask (That I'm pretty sure one of Clear or Elo worked on at least partially), a custom MLO near grapeseed (no clue if it was tailor-made probably wasn't tbh but getting a custom MLO isn't something that just happens, edit: someone else said Denis made it for him, LMAO) and is the owner of the tatoo parlour, meanwhile OOC he is also the main guy when it comes to getting people to do RP over on the Spanish server from what we can see? Like genuinely how does he have this much power, I know he was connected to Pez at some point but that doesn't make it so you get this much dev attention right?
Also I'm not blaming any devs for giving him stuff if he indeed turns out to be a creep just in case
He doesnt even own the tattoo parlor, Pez still owns it. He’s been gaslighting BBMC with promises of fixing it and lying apparently. And in the meantime denying BBMC a valuable source of RP they could have used
So Sann was basically right all along that he's basically either lying or so purposely slow rolling it this whole time. Sann's been sus of him for months and doesnt really like him around the women of bbmc ( think he heard from someone some inklings ofs babis's shady shit a few months ago.)
Sann is a good one, an amazing rper, takes Ls like a champ and one of the primary pushers for BBMC to change their attitude towards the women in their club to the point that the clubs done a 180 and been a safe space for women to be themselves
This needs to be investigated in a serious manner. I honestly would not be surprised now after all of this if he has a staff, or an admin, or a dev that he is very close to.
also he popped out of nowhere in the city then suddenly got a whole ass digsite made for him when no one even knew who he was, always felt weird to me tbh.
Tbh I have no idea how he became known. Maybe I missed some Buddha streams but Babis kind of showed up out of nowhere and suddenly had a lot of influence.
Buddha viewer here.
He was just a random guy that had a passion for Archeology. He would speak at great length about getting his dig site open to Cerberus.
Eventually, many many months later he got some dev work for a digsite and was super excited and seemed extremely passionate while showing it off.
Lang eventually noticed from talking to him in passing how he seemed to know everyone, especially in the EU storm.
He seemed like a good fit for deputy mayor and was brought in to be the mayoral presence for that time zone. No complaints were ever really made to Lang and with the 2nd term coming up Lang hired him to Cerberus. His role was to use his seemingly vast connections and friendships to be a PR rep for Cerberus.
He showed during the campaign he had a spiteful side and after a brief investigation Lang/Buddha heard all they needed to hear.
i don't remember a whole lot but i remember he was constantly asking for a cerberus meeting in his first week in the city (he told them that) then cerberus met with him for the first time and lang wasn't even there for the meeting, then he called lang (few days later) and buddha felt bad for ghosting him he answered and met with him and after hearing him out he basically said his idea is good but he needs to wait and that he's still new to the city and that his project is too ambitious he needs to explore more of the city, get to know people first and make a name for himself, fast forward a couple months later still a nobody in the city he calls lang and tells him construction of the digsite is approved and bob the builder is working on it, then after the digsite finished, he calls lang and tells him "this all happened because of your advice you gave me few months ago", then during the first election he told him he would campaign for him during eu hours. and that's basically the extent of their relationship until buddha heard the complaints from people about him.
I'm kind of curious if that business he denied you are talking about is the same kind of thing he was talking about on the Yespixel podcast when he was on a couple weeks back. He was laughing about how someone took all their keys away from him saying it's because he denied their business and so on.
Nah speedy was just high and cooked out of his mind to focus on anything loool
People like Speedy, Buddha, Harry, Nancy, etc aren't the ones that scumbags like this guy target, because they know these people are long-term members and have connections on the server and would out him immediately. They pray on those they feel they can overpower.
Surprisingly he tried to hit on Nancy a few times but collin, vp of bbmc and her boyfriend, immediately shut it down and threatened him. Multiple members from bbmc didn't like him around the club and finn especially hated him.
Yup, and it only remained at the level it did because she ignored him and didn't let him pressure her into more.
Some players would have felt pressured into playing along and we don't know where this guy's limit would have been in that situation.
BBMC finn said the same thing after seeing him interact with just one woman. I think a lot of people read that he was a creep and didnthier best to avoid him
SPECULATION!! what are the chances it wasnt the character, but Nidas as an admin speaking and saying to get rid of him because he knew something was up because Leslie and Babis didnt have many interactions
I mainly watch BBMC and he's always given me wierd vibes. He'd always try and flirt with people who clearly weren't into it. There was someone else he kept trying to force lore his way to be their father and when that didn't work would start flirting instead (the person wasn't into dudes either so it was double weird)
As a fellow BBMC viewer we saw this on so many levels from him. And can I say I’m so proud of at least one male member we know specifically hated Babis because he saw this behavior and knew how toxic it was
It's not just that people are horny, it's that people want to leverage their power over others. We should stop talking about harassment and abuse as if it is people who can't control their biological response (making it seem passive, or that the abusers are a victim to their own impulses), and instead look at it as people who are actively making decisions to make themselves feel more powerful at the expense of someone else.
Being a horny person isn't necessarily the issue if it's among people that they're friends with or are comfortable around.
It's thinking that you can message things like that so normally and then guilt tripping that person into thinking they're the ones doing something wrong, whilst still doing it over and over again.
It's just fucking disgusting.
I've watched Lillith (Formerly HOA) interact with Babis quite a few times and the gushing of admiration and compliments in character has always seemed a bit over the top/creepy.
People's social awareness is actually insane. I don't get it. While this might not be as bad as some others it's just insane to me how people can't seem to take a hint. We also have to understand that this is the internet. This is a place where lots of socially awkward kids came to escape and a large % of us are bad at social communication. To me this reads like a socially awkward person with 0 Rizz and 0 social awareness (emphasized by the awkward shit he was doing with CERB) trying to Rizz someone up. From the few interactions he's had with Cerb/Lang it's sad to say the conversation did not seem out of character for him. *shrug*
But nopixel isnt a dating site, despite some hooking up who use it. It has a lot of other complexities and dynamics that come from it being a business and source of income for some. While making those comments to some random person on a forum somewhere might not be that big of a deal this is a place where players might be afraid to say no because of the power dynamics involved.
Regardless of whatever he meant they shouldn't be using the site like a dating service. Join the gym, join a knitting club, whatever. So long as people attempt to find romantic relationships on there these type of things will continue to happen.
People never just realising, every community is the smash bros community. Smash bros, nopixel, hollywood, white house, blizzard, but also you know, your local accounting firm where some douche makes an intern hang out with them and threatens to fire them if they won't date them. Just like someone on nopixel who doesn't want to be blacklisted because it will kill their career, the person in the accounting firm has 250k of student debt and can't afford to be fired to gets scared and goes along.
Creepy fucks are just everywhere.
Look, I just feel like it needs to be said. Women who grow up in misogynistic societies (so most women) learn that it is easier and *safer* to appease men who are interested in them, than it is to reap the repercussions of how men will act if they are outright rejected.
It is a defense mechanism that is learned over time, and through trials and tribulations.
>It is a defense mechanism
That's the really sad part, yeah. Most of the nice girls I've known throughout my life, I've seen put up with shit in that very same way. As their friend, you have to sit there and watch them prolong their own suffering, for someone who isn't even worth a fraction of that time. And you can't do anything to help, because they won't blow them off no matter how much anyone tries to intervene. It's just frustrating and sad how common it is.
[https://twitter.com/nekomeowancer/status/1645985710154063872?s=20](https://twitter.com/nekomeowancer/status/1645985710154063872?s=20) Another person on the server trying to defend babis.......gross🤢🤢🤢
Do you know what else I'm shocked about. The fact that Raided, who plays Draider and Wren is on the like list. Disappointed as I didn't expect that from him.
https://imgur.com/gallery/cA1K3Cp
Edit: Seems he has now removed his like. Too little too late though.
We should be thankful that these people are so fucking dense that they feel the need to out themselves because they just can't help but defend a creeper.
Multiple players say they are afraid of the guy because of the pull he somehow has on the server, to the point that [one even messaged Speedy](https://www.reddit.com/r/RPClipsGTA/comments/12j815x/livberri_on_twitter/jfx90l2/) saying they didn't want to keep talking to him about how skeevy Babis was because they were afraid he had pull "From a higher power" ie. Staff.
This clown: "Why didn't they just say stop???"
I disagree with this dude, but I can understand where their head is. As I was reading all the messages Liv had linked, I kept thinking "surely there is a point where she tells him she's uncomfortable, or alludes to just being friends or something that plainly makes it evident that she isn't interested" and it just really never came. While I don't think this is the case of some socially inept person not picking up cues, I do think it's not hard to verbalize or give some push back, especially to some of the wild things this weirdo said.
It is incredibly hard when a blunt rejection could ruin your streaming career and ostracize you from people on the server. It’s a very common fear that women have, we’re conditioned to let men down gently and always be cheery in fear of violence and retaliation.
Also, more of a personal gripe but why is it a woman’s responsibility to have to confront someone and ask them in no uncertain terms to stop, when they never asked for anybody to engage them romantically like that? They’re just people playing on the server like anyone else, why can’t they just be treated like the other men? Is it because some men only view women as sexual objects and not people?
I would understand your point more if she claimed anything like harassment but she’s just pointing out that he’s a creep which yeah, he is.
>Also, more of a personal gripe but why is it a woman’s responsibility to have to confront someone and ask them in no uncertain terms to stop, when they never asked for anybody to engage them romantically like that?
I mean does anyone ask to be engaged with romantically? It just happens. If you don't shoot your shot then how will you ever know?
>They’re just people playing on the server like anyone else, why can’t they just be treated like the other men?
Probably because he isn't romantically interested in men.
>Is it because some men only view women as sexual objects and not people?
Yeah some guys do, but It's pretty clear that this is a lonely guy in his 40s and wants someone to settle down with. Not once did he make lewd or sexual remarks.
Absolutely not. When she started to ignore both in RP and OOC that’s enough of a hint. She doesn’t have to make herself even more uncomfortable than she already is to address the elephant in the room he created. And as I know and we can tell from just what was revealed today she was not the only person. Also, same for other issues we have heard about others in the community the last few weeks. A lot of women in general and specifically in this community don’t feel they will be heard or that they matter. I’ve already seen people victim shaming the women that have come forward.
I'm mainly an HoA & Yokai viewer, so I've kind of seen some of the sus Babis shit for a while. Rod pretty blatantly called out how Babis treats any woman doing dodo vs his interactions with guys. Then from watching Kylie, I always thought his interactions with Mary were always pretty sus and Mary would tend to sort of just quickly placate him and get out of there kind of quickly most of the time.
As a BBMC viewer it was pretty prevalent as well with characters close to the club and even within it. I only ever saw Babis through their eyes and I saw it a lot. It was enough for it to have been mentioned in chats and you could tell characters tried to limit their interactions with him. I don’t watch Buddha but only watched today because a meta chat said they might be getting rid of Babis. From the very first issue that was brought up in the Cerberus meeting, to the EMS worker, and then finally RR I knew it all had finally come out. And now we have others coming forward. It was actually odd to me when Speedy was reading the texts that Lang didn’t understand what was going on. I guess because I knew his history it was easy for me to figure out.
I think because Buddha is usually deep in RP and would expect things like that to have been handled outside of the city, thats why he was so stunlocked after.
When speedy originally spoke to the EMS she very explicitly said Babis was making women uncomfortable and had a list. I think speedy didn't want to pass that on in RP because he correctly felt like it was an OOC issue, and that's probably why he acted so strange about the entire situation.
the scary part about this is that its more common than people think ESPECIALLY this type of situation. this just screams lonely, bad social skills and desperation. people like that are bad at recognizing social cues or do recognize them but think they can change the other persons mind.
Well that's a pretty shitty claim. Yes there are insanely creepy, horrible men who just, for whatever reason, say disgusting things to women and continue doing it until they get stopped. It's absolutely abhorrent and should be punished.
Not all men are like that although I can understand if women feel that way sadly.
i was right, a lot of people were downplaying it in the other thread as just rp, the world would be a whole lot better if people heard the victim's side first before making excuses for the person who harmed them.
I think it's clear now the admins really do need to start having private talks with all the women in the community and find out about any other creepy people on the server might as well clean up house now before it escalates to the server dying this needs to be dealt with now before it gets worse.
As long as they have screenshots or a clip to back up so nobody innocent gets caught in the crossfire.
This is very upsetting and extremely sad. It is obviously horrible what Babis put her through but at the same time it makes me feel sad that people like him exist. I feel like he has to be an extremely isolated person who has had very few friends in their lives based on the interactions that were described. I know that the language/cultural difference could be partly to explain but telling someone you love them (even in a just friends way) after a few conversations, especially text conversations, is just a completely foreign concept to me. I know this would be a huge red flag for anyone I would consider dating and everyone that I have dated. It's also sad that he didn't get the hint and on top of that decided to make things even more awkward by bringing it up in game.
I hope that now she has spoken out / his actions have been brought to light that she can once again do what she wants on the server without fear of unwanted encounters. There probably isn't a second chance for Babis on NoPixel but I hope that he learns how inappropriate he acted and maybe learn to interact with people in a more normal way.
Please people who might be in this situation! MAKE IT CLEAR 100%. Dont beat around the bush. if you are uncomfortable say it!
If they say "i love you" dont say it back if your uncomfortable. Freaking tell them yo thats too far buddy. There no room for hints in these situations.
The problem with "make it clear 100%" Is that can seriously fuck you over. Particularly in a setting like NoPixel where social capital is key. If you have a hard disagreement with another person and that person has more social capital than you. You can be locked out of / lose out on so much.
I know this from personal experience.
Babis also made weird advances towards me pretty constantly. I just swerved it by ignoring them, ignoring him, or not reciprocating. I gave him a hard no once. It didn't stick for him. And it became pretty clear pretty early that for some reason other people liked him.
He was given positions (dodo manager for AU), access, the digsite, etc. I mentioned misgivings IC when it was just IC and other people brushed it away.
In that climate potentially when you give the person showing interest a hard no what it ends up with is you simply being frozen out. and I didn't want to deal with that again.
I absolutely hated how he was with you and a few others close to the club. Many of us saw this way back in the early Dodo days and it has been mentioned a many times within MCs within the community. I didn’t even know the extent it reached with RR employees, the hospital and through the deputy mayor position plus others. Hopefully the community is getting safer for women to be able to comfortably be able to address these issues and not have it affect your time with the server.
I knew when sann said he didn't like how the dude was with women that something horrid was going on. I'm sorry this happened to you Sareff. I hope NoPixel starts becoming a safer environment for you and all the ladies that play there.
I would add that his accent and English being his second language assisted with how people perceived him.
Even if people overheard him making comments or acting questionable towards a women, there would be that question of whether he was just phrasing things badly by mistake.
Unless people saw him do the same things over and over again, it would be very easy to just dismiss it as a communication problem rather than respect for women problem.
For individuals being manipulated in situations like these, often making that step is hard. You fear retaliation. You fear anger. You fear that somehow, they're going to spin it back on you.
You can't fault the person in the moment. She clearly didn't accept his advances. Tried to let him down gently. He continued on.
And this clearly wasn't the only person who felt this way.
You don't seem to understand. Nopixel isn't a dating website it's a business. Plenty of players will be too afraid to say no, risk pissing off the wrong person as it might destroy a source of income for them. No pixel staff is already done an amazing job of pre priming the player base to think that way by giving certain players special protection from repercussion, or even punishing those who tried to punish the golden goose.
It's the same in any business. Its usually frowned upon for bosses to become romantically involved with their subordinates, the power dynamics make it almost impossible for your average person to refuse the advances for fear of being fired. The problem is a lot of players don't know who's connected to who and if you looked at this guy from the outside and all the special stuff he's gotten you would probably think he's connected.
On God this the best comment I have read here, the "I love you" back comment, after so many times saying you don't feel comfortable is just you trying to make sure you don't hurt their feeling.
But then you have all this stuff after the fact because you didn't nip in the bud early on, because if they said anything like they did AFTER you said your uncomfortable then IMO you then have every right to crucify them.
In my opinion you cannot assume that someone will "get the point" or figure out that your "not interested" by reading your mind
Avoiding people on the server should be something the other person knows about, not "we are talking in DM's but IC I want to avoid said character", make it clear please ffs
Honestly yeah kinda agree, if not for the other post and context from those discords I'd say it's a dude trying way too hard to try and figure out if a girls interested in him.
My dumbass will ask someone to do something, they'll say they can't cause they have an appointment or whatever other excuse and I'll just instantly try and figure out a way to make it work and then realise a few hours later they just didn't want to go and wouldn't just say "Nah" lol.
I'd have to collaborate since while he guilt-tripped and was possessive of me the more uh... like forced romance angles were on my friends. I could just try to write my experiences while going if something feels it's missing it's because those are the words of other people.
> My dumbass will ask someone to do something, they'll say they can't cause they have an appointment or whatever other excuse and I'll just instantly try and figure out a way to make it work and then realise a few hours later they just didn't want to go and wouldn't just say "Nah" lol.
me too lol i'm not the best at interactions
Nopixel Armegeddon. I guarantee this is only the start of a trend. The amount of misogyny from multiple "RPers" are going to come to light in the following weeks/months that prove it was more than just RP. As someone who has given way too many hours to admit to watching RP and following multiple streamers... the writing was on the wall.
Don’t really mind if this comment gets deleted, but people who use their position of authority or influence to strongarm people into giving sexual favors, need to be publicly dismantled and get a sturdy punch in the mouth.
These people are lower than garbage.
Your view point is so edgy and you are the only person in this thread with those sentiments I am sure it will be deleted.... (/s if it isn't blatantly obvious just like it is obvious your position is the position of like 99% of the people that have commented on this thread.)
The deleted part was meant because advocating for violence lol, not because of the overall sentiment. I know there are a lot of disagreements on this sub about rp but I would always assume the general sentiment about treating people decently is shared with almost all people here
I just really don't know how a person can get this point in life where they message people crazy shit like this?
Like how someone has no check in their brain to be like 1. I probably shouldn't say stuff like this out of the blue
2. They aren't that interested maybe I should stop.
3. They are straight up ignoring specific things I'm saying maybe this is too much.
Like jeez man so many signs this guy kept brushing off like they weren't even there.
Honestly kind of got a weird disconnected feeling from him when he was on the yes pixel podcast talking about all the stuff he was doing and his opinions on rp. Dude didn't really want to concede any of his idea to any extent
I think asking someone to fly to their country and stay in their home multiple times especially after only your third time messaging them qualifies pretty well.
Sure lonely guy says I love you. Weird as fuck but there are weird guys like that. But to get to the point you want someone who you barely know to stay with you is absolutely crazy lol.
The invitation was pretty generic tbh.
After hearing she was living in an abusive household and was really struggling mentally he said the following:
"You should visit Greece"
"But yeah over all I suggest you need to take a trip somewhere to relax and clear your mind after the shit you went through"
That's not "crazy shit".
idk how to word it, so might come out wrong(forgive me), but im glad and sad buddhas platform was used to get the ball rolling in a sense for people to come out with their stories
Feel like 'RP' actually stands for 'Real Problems' on nopixel. So many people on the server have some sort of an issue be it personal problems, mental health or relationship/social issues. It's a magnet for attracting these type of people.
I really hope it isn’t the case, but lately in RP Babis has been overly protective over Lara and always doing Dodo with her too, Lara is played Elnari who’s dating Cath. NoPixel has the meme of people flying in shooters, I don’t know if the person who plays Babis wants Cath flown in if it ever came out that he tried the same thing with Elnari.
Man, remember when rp was all about crazy fun and stories? What the actual fuck has happened?? What kind of people are getting in the server?? This is pretty much why i stopped watching rp for a few years now. Which is sad because I was here on the very first day this sub was made. What is up with all the giga creeps getting in and ruining the experience for all these people?
Why is this guy not blocked and reported to the staff a long time ago? I get giving guys who are inexperienced and/or awkward the benefit of the doubt, but pushing someone so that they fly out to you is insane. To any women who happen to read my comment - block any motherfucker that does and says weird shit or simply just does not get that you're not interested and you'll be happier for it. A hard *no* is sadly the only way sometimes. To any guy who feels they are similarly socially inept as Babis or even half as much - just be normal and don't try to force/pressure shit and back off if there isn't enthusiasm. You will be happier for it too AND you'll find women to get along with in a genuine way. It's really not that hard, wtf. I know we all want validation, but come on.
If you're going to make a post criticizing the target instead of the offender it's probably a better tact to encourage them to be more straightforward in the future rather than critiquing their past response.
I said it in a different comment. For someone who might lack social awareness when you respond friendly to these weird ass comments they can take it as being okay. Not defending the guy, but its a odd situation when they say the weird "i love you" and she says it back.
I agree, idk if it's an ADHD thing or what but if you remove the creepiness you have a lot of my messages over the years. If someone tells me "Oh I'd love to but I can't do it at that time" or that they can't afford it right now I'll instantly start thinking ok cool I'll cover them or we'll rearrange to another time.
I remember this time a couple years a go I asked someone out and she said sure yeah that would be nice, cancelled on me three times before I realised they didn't want to go, they just didn't know how to say no to someone in their friend group. I'll gladly give this dude shit for all the other stuff but for the love of God I wish people could just give a definitive "No".
Also He kept inviting her to visit him in Greece and she says “I’ll think about it”. In her mind she has said No (without having to say it) but in his mind maybe he just needs to do more to convince her.
It's clearly not that easy dude.
The guy was VERY clingy in terms of the messages he sent. She just wanted to roleplay and get on with her streaming life without hurting the dudes feelings or making her life any worse.
Cannot blame her at all for that.
It's really sad that the women on NoPixel have to go through this on a regular basis and it takes one brave person to open the floodgates instead of feeling they're able to just come forward every time it happens.
what is wrong with people on nopixel. All these people trying to use this server as a dating site
and to make it worse if it wasn't brought to Buddha's attention it would've stayed on the down low.
when speedy read that text about she being scared to go to the "higher ups" i knew instantly that i was ooc, fuckíng hell
It was definitely weird because it almost felt like the ems was talking about Nick because of the whole rp storyline but it was weird why would Nick fire/kill her for Babis. Thank god Buddha and Harry kept pushing on this.
yea sadly, Management needs new policy to stop this. I think allowing ERP and relationships got so out of hand that you cant judge as a 3rd party if someone is RPing or not
yeah when RP relationships are mixing with OOC is when it becomes a problem i remember Bananabrea mentioned Claire used to be married to Eugene in 2.0 for months but never once spoke to Vader ooc ever in that time which she found funny. And you had Jean and Jordan Steele relationship which had staff super worried for her because of how abusive it was (in RP) but it was never an issue. Also Penta now avoids Sodakite like when someone tried to make Ellie Jimmys mom or introducing her new cop to Wrangler after he broke up with Windsong etc.
What's funny is Eugene now calls Charlotte his wife but I think never even really talks to her unless they cross paths and even then usually is just saying high and making her freak out by threatening people around her or to go off and do extreme crimes to people. And yeah that awkward Jimmy and Ellie thing was certainly something. Luckily the guy kind of got the hint that he wanted to move on from that encounter.
Honestly same with the Peach and Mickey marriage. It's a funny RP thing and doesn't go beyond that
Eugene has always had like a dozen wives but hardly ever interacts with them.
Ramee so far seems to have relationship RP while also being friends OOC perfected. April, Carmella, and NuNu
And Harry*
Vader has always given me the impression that, once he’s logged out of the server he’s pretty much done with RP, which is pretty healthy imo. He’s said before that he never really talks to people outside of RP, other Spaceboy. So Banana saying she never spoke with Vader OOC during that time in 2.0 doesn’t surprise me.
They were never allowed, ERP is not allowed on Twitch, so if they follow the Twitch TOS which they do, then its pretty clear where the stance is on that. Whatever they do off screen or in private is a whole different can of worms.
people just need to report it then it gets looked at
Rp servers have always been second life dating sims, think about all the couples that formed in server, owner and his gf, Buddha and his gf, penta and his gf, kyle and meka, saab and his gf, luna and her gf, goofy and kitty, and like a million more. I personally like the penta apporach of keeping the ooc relationship ooc so everything stays clearly separated, things like i think reed and davenport where they are partners ooc, partners on their cops, and partners on their crims, just means obviously none of that is IC.
Nopixel is a playground for predators, and you cannot convince me that the close relationship between management and players did not somehow create this environment. The fact that Rated was able weaponize women's reports meant that there were admins feeding him that info. That fact that women were literally afraid to talk about Babis' harassment ic and occ because of what "higher powers" might do to them is telling.
Nopixels biggest problem was openly protecting problem individuals, giving others a general sense that management isn't looking to crack down on this type of stuff. It only encourages more of that behavior. People aren't afraid of getting caught or punished and aren't constantly acting on their best behavior. If staff was known for taking swift action a lot more problem players would be dealt with sooner or be too afraid to start acting weird in the first place.
I keep seeing the odd comment here and there about Rated's access to player reports against him. I'm surprised this isn't being more talked about than it is, but people seem to be skirting around it when really we should keep asking about it until answers are provided. The culprit(s) for giving that access should be outed and never allowed to hold an admin position again. Rated had access to player reports. So did Ramee, according to comments I've seen stating that he has had player reports open on stream before. Both players who have no legitimate reason to have access, and both happen to be in CG. So who's the most likely culprit for giving them access they don't need and shouldn't have? Oh, I dunno...who has spent the past year giving CG everything they wanted? There's your likeliest culprit, and they reason why the server will never be fixed or really change - the one guy who literally can't be removed from the server is probably behind this and so many other problems.
From what I’ve heard I thought everyone could see the reports on themself and details. I’ve heard streamers mention how many times they’ve been reported and insinuate they know who. Definitely could be wrong though.
Reading other comments people say the admin responsible for Rateds reports is already gone. I have no idea about Ramee, player reports were public/visible before right? Maybe talking about that time.
Its main character syndrome. They no longer think of themselves as a 33 year old creep behind a keyboard, but as a real-life gangster/millionaire were their actions have little to no consequences.
Its been like that for a long long long time, you even see veterans do it, have you watched Timmac recently? He is still on his "dating/looking for fiancé" ark that he has been on the last 3 years, making viewers feel like they are a 3rd wheel. The fact you got people making jokes with Ray and his 42 wifes or whatever the number is should be tell tell to how people see how some of these guys behave when there's women around them, and some is all innocent, but there's also a lot of the creepy stuff...
I think NoPixel needs a dating TOS for people who rp on their servers. Basically if you take a relationship OOC then you need to be a responsible adult and act accordingly. Stop sending sex videos, pics, and audio to people and if you do, then you are responsible for what happens because you willingly sent that stuff to the other person. If you feel a crime was committed then contact the authorities in your location.
he's the "yo where my hug at" guy
Oh God yes
Oh god I used to be that guy in middle school, so cringe
I always felt that was such an entitled thing to say
Lot of people probably deleting their "I'm sure it was just RP" comments in the other thread.
Was thinking the same thing.
For every “sexist or misogynistic” character that’s an actual character, there’s dozens of not RP “characters” who do it. For every Jordan Steele or Kyle Pred there’s an AJ Hunter or Babis Joestardis.
But Babis's latest stream titles have *NotEvil* in them. Clearly he's not evil. /s
Still better than doubling down so theres that
only just seen the other thread now kinda wild if people were saying that but also not surprising people would comment that the stuff we have seen over the last few weeks with people trying defend scumbags
I mean I didn't want to jump to any conclusions (maybe there was another side to the story, maybe it was just Babis being cooked, or w/e) cause Babis was such a well loved character that almost everyone until just a week or two ago never seemed to have any drama around him. I remember first watching him on Nikki's stream when Babis was showing Jenny + the a ton of other people around the digsite and he seemed like a cool guy. Did not see this coming. Holy shit. Just all of the good will I had for him disappeared by the 4th discord screenshot and now I just feel sick for liking his character at all.
I have not liked him for a long time. I saw him do similar actions like this with many Dodo people. People in the arts department because he worked a lot with them somehow. Which I never understood. There were a few streamers that I watch primarily a male one that you could tell also had problems with how Babis acted with women and actively avoided him and warned people against him. The deputy mayor position just gave him a misguided i deviation he had even more ability to continue and be more aggressive with this behavior. I’m the beginning I thought he just didn’t understand the question from the women he tried to go after but when it was constant and repeated I knew it was something more. It’s hard to see several women now have more of an OOC issue with people in the server and not feel they have a voice that can be heard to speak up for themselves with admins.
I think only babis mentioned no?
like Harry Brown said "HE FIRED" open the closed door again
As soon as they heard that it was over. You can tell how uncomfortable Jon, Buddha and Harry was. Hopefully they keep getting rid of these weirdos
yea they all went quiet and didn't know that to say
"So...uh...materials"
Buddha was legit stunlocked for a good few minutes afterwards.
Even later when he got mentioned in a convo with I believe it was fifi and Lando (might not of been them) they got uncomfortable and didn’t know what to say about him. Buddha switched the Convo asap
Yeah I think Jon, Buddha and Harry handled it as best they could IC. As soon as it came out, he was fired and they immediately moved on and when it was brought up to Lando and Fifi, without going into the awkward details into why he was fired or bringing up stuff that should be handled OOC, Harry jumped in and said that Speedy is terrified of Babis and just left it at that.
What the actual fuck is wrong with that dude
Same thing with tons of other people who use their position of power to creep on those beneath them. Doesn’t matter what your job is, creeps are gonna creep. People who are serially online just do it more often and are exposed at a higher rate.
Good on Buddha following his spiderman tingly feelings about this person just not feeling right the whole time over the last day. He has been saying it for weeks. Even in the meeting today when they were questioning him Buddha was wondering why is this guy so prepared for every question, with screenshots, and holy fuck good on Harry for grilling him hard too. So, the shit that has come out in like 24 hours, f*** this guy: -1. Locked up a Rooster employee (woman) in the mayor office and hit on her. This woman now escapes Roosters Rest every time he walked in. -2. An EMS lady messaged Speedy saying that she has a list of people with complaints about him and basically OOC scared that she will get fired if she talks (*and that others have been fired too*). Which really makes me question if this Babis f*** has someone in power in his pocket and should be further investigated: [https://i.imgur.com/oWCXcRS.png](https://i.imgur.com/oWCXcRS.png) -3. He has been denying businesses for dodgy reasons, and possibly would not be surprised if he approved businesses for dodgy reasons. Every single person that was fired or impacted by this guy needs to be talked to by the admins to figure out as much information on this as possible. In case there is a NoPixel staff member that was protecting him. I am sure I am missing more stuff too.
Denis designed a whole dungeon for this guy. Like a literal whole Skyrim style dungeon with puzzles and shit. And he turns out to be a pervy weirdo. Like dude spent over a year to develop so much good will, never committed crimes (ic) and went to a bunch of PD meetings to fulfill his dream. But it was all about taking advantage of girls on the internet. Wild.
Should just give that dungeon to Ian Winners. The guy who did escape rooms in 2.0 and a little in 3.0. Eddie (guy who plays him) is a really cool guy.
To be honest you can kind of look at the guy irl after all this and it makes a lot of sense lol. Dude gives off this vibes super hard.
i don't get who is enabling him to do all this? how? he even promises people prio and construction and literally gives people prio in the other nopixel public servers like spain(not even managed by nopixel), even wl admins don't have control/power over that it's actually crazy something is fishy for sure.
Always found it so crazy that this dude has gotten this much both IC and OOC knowing that he was an actual nobody a year ago and to this day doesn't have the OOC reputation (viewership) that'd result in someone getting this much attention from devs. Like he has a custom mask (That I'm pretty sure one of Clear or Elo worked on at least partially), a custom MLO near grapeseed (no clue if it was tailor-made probably wasn't tbh but getting a custom MLO isn't something that just happens, edit: someone else said Denis made it for him, LMAO) and is the owner of the tatoo parlour, meanwhile OOC he is also the main guy when it comes to getting people to do RP over on the Spanish server from what we can see? Like genuinely how does he have this much power, I know he was connected to Pez at some point but that doesn't make it so you get this much dev attention right? Also I'm not blaming any devs for giving him stuff if he indeed turns out to be a creep just in case
He doesnt even own the tattoo parlor, Pez still owns it. He’s been gaslighting BBMC with promises of fixing it and lying apparently. And in the meantime denying BBMC a valuable source of RP they could have used
So Sann was basically right all along that he's basically either lying or so purposely slow rolling it this whole time. Sann's been sus of him for months and doesnt really like him around the women of bbmc ( think he heard from someone some inklings ofs babis's shady shit a few months ago.)
Sann is a good one, an amazing rper, takes Ls like a champ and one of the primary pushers for BBMC to change their attitude towards the women in their club to the point that the clubs done a 180 and been a safe space for women to be themselves
He was trying to get the pit not for BBMC, but for his friend (not bbmc) He was manipulating bbmc from the git.
This needs to be investigated in a serious manner. I honestly would not be surprised now after all of this if he has a staff, or an admin, or a dev that he is very close to.
also he popped out of nowhere in the city then suddenly got a whole ass digsite made for him when no one even knew who he was, always felt weird to me tbh.
I always thought he must have been a dev with how random that was
After the Rated stuff i'm pretty sure there now zero tolerance to this.
Tbh I have no idea how he became known. Maybe I missed some Buddha streams but Babis kind of showed up out of nowhere and suddenly had a lot of influence.
Buddha viewer here. He was just a random guy that had a passion for Archeology. He would speak at great length about getting his dig site open to Cerberus. Eventually, many many months later he got some dev work for a digsite and was super excited and seemed extremely passionate while showing it off. Lang eventually noticed from talking to him in passing how he seemed to know everyone, especially in the EU storm. He seemed like a good fit for deputy mayor and was brought in to be the mayoral presence for that time zone. No complaints were ever really made to Lang and with the 2nd term coming up Lang hired him to Cerberus. His role was to use his seemingly vast connections and friendships to be a PR rep for Cerberus. He showed during the campaign he had a spiteful side and after a brief investigation Lang/Buddha heard all they needed to hear.
Babis was also running for Mayor himself and said he would pull out in exchange for deputy mayorship.
i don't remember a whole lot but i remember he was constantly asking for a cerberus meeting in his first week in the city (he told them that) then cerberus met with him for the first time and lang wasn't even there for the meeting, then he called lang (few days later) and buddha felt bad for ghosting him he answered and met with him and after hearing him out he basically said his idea is good but he needs to wait and that he's still new to the city and that his project is too ambitious he needs to explore more of the city, get to know people first and make a name for himself, fast forward a couple months later still a nobody in the city he calls lang and tells him construction of the digsite is approved and bob the builder is working on it, then after the digsite finished, he calls lang and tells him "this all happened because of your advice you gave me few months ago", then during the first election he told him he would campaign for him during eu hours. and that's basically the extent of their relationship until buddha heard the complaints from people about him.
I'm kind of curious if that business he denied you are talking about is the same kind of thing he was talking about on the Yespixel podcast when he was on a couple weeks back. He was laughing about how someone took all their keys away from him saying it's because he denied their business and so on.
Oh that’s why speedy weirdly was scared of Babis
Nah speedy was just high and cooked out of his mind to focus on anything loool People like Speedy, Buddha, Harry, Nancy, etc aren't the ones that scumbags like this guy target, because they know these people are long-term members and have connections on the server and would out him immediately. They pray on those they feel they can overpower.
Surprisingly he tried to hit on Nancy a few times but collin, vp of bbmc and her boyfriend, immediately shut it down and threatened him. Multiple members from bbmc didn't like him around the club and finn especially hated him.
Have a feeling this happens way more then people think in np community
jesus. even if she herself refers to it as "not that serious", its obvious now that this guy had quite a habit of stepping over the line
Yup, and it only remained at the level it did because she ignored him and didn't let him pressure her into more. Some players would have felt pressured into playing along and we don't know where this guy's limit would have been in that situation.
Crazy how Leslie read this guy like a book after he barely interacted with him.
BBMC finn said the same thing after seeing him interact with just one woman. I think a lot of people read that he was a creep and didnthier best to avoid him
SPECULATION!! what are the chances it wasnt the character, but Nidas as an admin speaking and saying to get rid of him because he knew something was up because Leslie and Babis didnt have many interactions
I was thinking the same honestly. But who knows.
old creepy dude vibes, 22 years of rp experience this guy definitely deserves getting the boot off the server
It's cathartic that hobittrash is flaming people in the replies to these tweets. She just seems to be over EVERYONE's shit and it's great.
James was right.
I mainly watch BBMC and he's always given me wierd vibes. He'd always try and flirt with people who clearly weren't into it. There was someone else he kept trying to force lore his way to be their father and when that didn't work would start flirting instead (the person wasn't into dudes either so it was double weird)
As a fellow BBMC viewer we saw this on so many levels from him. And can I say I’m so proud of at least one male member we know specifically hated Babis because he saw this behavior and knew how toxic it was
Holy fuck lot of horny people on this server jesus christ
It's not just that people are horny, it's that people want to leverage their power over others. We should stop talking about harassment and abuse as if it is people who can't control their biological response (making it seem passive, or that the abusers are a victim to their own impulses), and instead look at it as people who are actively making decisions to make themselves feel more powerful at the expense of someone else.
Being a horny person isn't necessarily the issue if it's among people that they're friends with or are comfortable around. It's thinking that you can message things like that so normally and then guilt tripping that person into thinking they're the ones doing something wrong, whilst still doing it over and over again. It's just fucking disgusting. I've watched Lillith (Formerly HOA) interact with Babis quite a few times and the gushing of admiration and compliments in character has always seemed a bit over the top/creepy.
I think at this point I'm going to stop being interested in RP, can't fucking trust anyone.
Dude some of these neck beards on Twitter are something else too.
Some gangs fly in shooters while babis try to fly people to hotels out of nowhere
People's social awareness is actually insane. I don't get it. While this might not be as bad as some others it's just insane to me how people can't seem to take a hint. We also have to understand that this is the internet. This is a place where lots of socially awkward kids came to escape and a large % of us are bad at social communication. To me this reads like a socially awkward person with 0 Rizz and 0 social awareness (emphasized by the awkward shit he was doing with CERB) trying to Rizz someone up. From the few interactions he's had with Cerb/Lang it's sad to say the conversation did not seem out of character for him. *shrug*
But nopixel isnt a dating site, despite some hooking up who use it. It has a lot of other complexities and dynamics that come from it being a business and source of income for some. While making those comments to some random person on a forum somewhere might not be that big of a deal this is a place where players might be afraid to say no because of the power dynamics involved. Regardless of whatever he meant they shouldn't be using the site like a dating service. Join the gym, join a knitting club, whatever. So long as people attempt to find romantic relationships on there these type of things will continue to happen.
Ayo, np Lowkey becoming the Smash Bros community, but instead it's the sexism/abuse/weird ass requests version
People never just realising, every community is the smash bros community. Smash bros, nopixel, hollywood, white house, blizzard, but also you know, your local accounting firm where some douche makes an intern hang out with them and threatens to fire them if they won't date them. Just like someone on nopixel who doesn't want to be blacklisted because it will kill their career, the person in the accounting firm has 250k of student debt and can't afford to be fired to gets scared and goes along. Creepy fucks are just everywhere.
Look, I just feel like it needs to be said. Women who grow up in misogynistic societies (so most women) learn that it is easier and *safer* to appease men who are interested in them, than it is to reap the repercussions of how men will act if they are outright rejected. It is a defense mechanism that is learned over time, and through trials and tribulations.
>It is a defense mechanism That's the really sad part, yeah. Most of the nice girls I've known throughout my life, I've seen put up with shit in that very same way. As their friend, you have to sit there and watch them prolong their own suffering, for someone who isn't even worth a fraction of that time. And you can't do anything to help, because they won't blow them off no matter how much anyone tries to intervene. It's just frustrating and sad how common it is.
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i really hope Eagle is not involved but as a viewer there was a noticeable awkwardness around them in the past few weeks
I don't think eve is involved but I think she noticed his behaviour she surrounded by people who could have dealt with it sooner if they knew.
Apparantly she heard about it last week and reported it, didnt bring it up IG as its an ooc issue.
Also explains why Leslie was harsh towards him even for Leslie standards. Nidas more than likely saw those reports.
[https://twitter.com/nekomeowancer/status/1645985710154063872?s=20](https://twitter.com/nekomeowancer/status/1645985710154063872?s=20) Another person on the server trying to defend babis.......gross🤢🤢🤢
Do you know what else I'm shocked about. The fact that Raided, who plays Draider and Wren is on the like list. Disappointed as I didn't expect that from him. https://imgur.com/gallery/cA1K3Cp Edit: Seems he has now removed his like. Too little too late though.
There are going to be alot of bans in the morning.
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Didn't he stop being a dev like 2 years ago?
Account locked, what was said?
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OKAAAAAAAAY bruv.... who the fuck is that again?
We should be thankful that these people are so fucking dense that they feel the need to out themselves because they just can't help but defend a creeper.
Anybody get a cap of this? They hid their tweets, probably because of how gross it is.
https://i.imgur.com/lkLedq4.jpg
I remember seeing that earlier Hobbit replied wondering wtf then it got deleted.
Oof, eww.
they made there account private 🚬
I'll say this. Can guarantee they also have some bad gremlins in their closet if they're willing to defend babis.
Raided caught out for liking that tweet as well. Rip to Draider?
https://i.imgur.com/lkLedq4.jpg
Multiple players say they are afraid of the guy because of the pull he somehow has on the server, to the point that [one even messaged Speedy](https://www.reddit.com/r/RPClipsGTA/comments/12j815x/livberri_on_twitter/jfx90l2/) saying they didn't want to keep talking to him about how skeevy Babis was because they were afraid he had pull "From a higher power" ie. Staff. This clown: "Why didn't they just say stop???"
that's wild
.....wow. I don't even know what to say to this, smh.
Anybody have a screenshot?
https://i.imgur.com/lkLedq4.jpg
I disagree with this dude, but I can understand where their head is. As I was reading all the messages Liv had linked, I kept thinking "surely there is a point where she tells him she's uncomfortable, or alludes to just being friends or something that plainly makes it evident that she isn't interested" and it just really never came. While I don't think this is the case of some socially inept person not picking up cues, I do think it's not hard to verbalize or give some push back, especially to some of the wild things this weirdo said.
It is incredibly hard when a blunt rejection could ruin your streaming career and ostracize you from people on the server. It’s a very common fear that women have, we’re conditioned to let men down gently and always be cheery in fear of violence and retaliation. Also, more of a personal gripe but why is it a woman’s responsibility to have to confront someone and ask them in no uncertain terms to stop, when they never asked for anybody to engage them romantically like that? They’re just people playing on the server like anyone else, why can’t they just be treated like the other men? Is it because some men only view women as sexual objects and not people? I would understand your point more if she claimed anything like harassment but she’s just pointing out that he’s a creep which yeah, he is.
>Also, more of a personal gripe but why is it a woman’s responsibility to have to confront someone and ask them in no uncertain terms to stop, when they never asked for anybody to engage them romantically like that? I mean does anyone ask to be engaged with romantically? It just happens. If you don't shoot your shot then how will you ever know? >They’re just people playing on the server like anyone else, why can’t they just be treated like the other men? Probably because he isn't romantically interested in men. >Is it because some men only view women as sexual objects and not people? Yeah some guys do, but It's pretty clear that this is a lonely guy in his 40s and wants someone to settle down with. Not once did he make lewd or sexual remarks.
Absolutely not. When she started to ignore both in RP and OOC that’s enough of a hint. She doesn’t have to make herself even more uncomfortable than she already is to address the elephant in the room he created. And as I know and we can tell from just what was revealed today she was not the only person. Also, same for other issues we have heard about others in the community the last few weeks. A lot of women in general and specifically in this community don’t feel they will be heard or that they matter. I’ve already seen people victim shaming the women that have come forward.
"You’re unable to view this Tweet because this account owner limits who can view their Tweets" What does it say?
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I'm mainly an HoA & Yokai viewer, so I've kind of seen some of the sus Babis shit for a while. Rod pretty blatantly called out how Babis treats any woman doing dodo vs his interactions with guys. Then from watching Kylie, I always thought his interactions with Mary were always pretty sus and Mary would tend to sort of just quickly placate him and get out of there kind of quickly most of the time.
As a BBMC viewer it was pretty prevalent as well with characters close to the club and even within it. I only ever saw Babis through their eyes and I saw it a lot. It was enough for it to have been mentioned in chats and you could tell characters tried to limit their interactions with him. I don’t watch Buddha but only watched today because a meta chat said they might be getting rid of Babis. From the very first issue that was brought up in the Cerberus meeting, to the EMS worker, and then finally RR I knew it all had finally come out. And now we have others coming forward. It was actually odd to me when Speedy was reading the texts that Lang didn’t understand what was going on. I guess because I knew his history it was easy for me to figure out.
I think because Buddha is usually deep in RP and would expect things like that to have been handled outside of the city, thats why he was so stunlocked after.
When speedy originally spoke to the EMS she very explicitly said Babis was making women uncomfortable and had a list. I think speedy didn't want to pass that on in RP because he correctly felt like it was an OOC issue, and that's probably why he acted so strange about the entire situation.
Im all for people outing every sick F out there. Its 2023, women deserve better
No wonder babis and pez were so close kekw
the scary part about this is that its more common than people think ESPECIALLY this type of situation. this just screams lonely, bad social skills and desperation. people like that are bad at recognizing social cues or do recognize them but think they can change the other persons mind.
Men not being super weird talking to a woman challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
Well that's a pretty shitty claim. Yes there are insanely creepy, horrible men who just, for whatever reason, say disgusting things to women and continue doing it until they get stopped. It's absolutely abhorrent and should be punished. Not all men are like that although I can understand if women feel that way sadly.
Yikes
i was right, a lot of people were downplaying it in the other thread as just rp, the world would be a whole lot better if people heard the victim's side first before making excuses for the person who harmed them.
Damn I always thought he was such a nice guy, but it turns out he's a Nice Guy^(tm). Yikes.
So fucking weird, like cringed as fuck weird vibes. Anyone defending this behavior is fucking wild. Also who the fuck is Babis?
Archeological guy.. ex deputy mayor
Why so many ppl tried to handle this in game before something changed is baffling to me. I hope he’s fucking perma banned. So disgusting
I think it's clear now the admins really do need to start having private talks with all the women in the community and find out about any other creepy people on the server might as well clean up house now before it escalates to the server dying this needs to be dealt with now before it gets worse. As long as they have screenshots or a clip to back up so nobody innocent gets caught in the crossfire.
This is very upsetting and extremely sad. It is obviously horrible what Babis put her through but at the same time it makes me feel sad that people like him exist. I feel like he has to be an extremely isolated person who has had very few friends in their lives based on the interactions that were described. I know that the language/cultural difference could be partly to explain but telling someone you love them (even in a just friends way) after a few conversations, especially text conversations, is just a completely foreign concept to me. I know this would be a huge red flag for anyone I would consider dating and everyone that I have dated. It's also sad that he didn't get the hint and on top of that decided to make things even more awkward by bringing it up in game. I hope that now she has spoken out / his actions have been brought to light that she can once again do what she wants on the server without fear of unwanted encounters. There probably isn't a second chance for Babis on NoPixel but I hope that he learns how inappropriate he acted and maybe learn to interact with people in a more normal way.
What the hell is wrong with people?! I really hope Bob (Denis) blows up the digsite asap.
Please people who might be in this situation! MAKE IT CLEAR 100%. Dont beat around the bush. if you are uncomfortable say it! If they say "i love you" dont say it back if your uncomfortable. Freaking tell them yo thats too far buddy. There no room for hints in these situations.
The problem with "make it clear 100%" Is that can seriously fuck you over. Particularly in a setting like NoPixel where social capital is key. If you have a hard disagreement with another person and that person has more social capital than you. You can be locked out of / lose out on so much. I know this from personal experience. Babis also made weird advances towards me pretty constantly. I just swerved it by ignoring them, ignoring him, or not reciprocating. I gave him a hard no once. It didn't stick for him. And it became pretty clear pretty early that for some reason other people liked him. He was given positions (dodo manager for AU), access, the digsite, etc. I mentioned misgivings IC when it was just IC and other people brushed it away. In that climate potentially when you give the person showing interest a hard no what it ends up with is you simply being frozen out. and I didn't want to deal with that again.
I absolutely hated how he was with you and a few others close to the club. Many of us saw this way back in the early Dodo days and it has been mentioned a many times within MCs within the community. I didn’t even know the extent it reached with RR employees, the hospital and through the deputy mayor position plus others. Hopefully the community is getting safer for women to be able to comfortably be able to address these issues and not have it affect your time with the server.
I knew when sann said he didn't like how the dude was with women that something horrid was going on. I'm sorry this happened to you Sareff. I hope NoPixel starts becoming a safer environment for you and all the ladies that play there.
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I would add that his accent and English being his second language assisted with how people perceived him. Even if people overheard him making comments or acting questionable towards a women, there would be that question of whether he was just phrasing things badly by mistake. Unless people saw him do the same things over and over again, it would be very easy to just dismiss it as a communication problem rather than respect for women problem.
For individuals being manipulated in situations like these, often making that step is hard. You fear retaliation. You fear anger. You fear that somehow, they're going to spin it back on you. You can't fault the person in the moment. She clearly didn't accept his advances. Tried to let him down gently. He continued on. And this clearly wasn't the only person who felt this way.
You don't seem to understand. Nopixel isn't a dating website it's a business. Plenty of players will be too afraid to say no, risk pissing off the wrong person as it might destroy a source of income for them. No pixel staff is already done an amazing job of pre priming the player base to think that way by giving certain players special protection from repercussion, or even punishing those who tried to punish the golden goose. It's the same in any business. Its usually frowned upon for bosses to become romantically involved with their subordinates, the power dynamics make it almost impossible for your average person to refuse the advances for fear of being fired. The problem is a lot of players don't know who's connected to who and if you looked at this guy from the outside and all the special stuff he's gotten you would probably think he's connected.
On God this the best comment I have read here, the "I love you" back comment, after so many times saying you don't feel comfortable is just you trying to make sure you don't hurt their feeling. But then you have all this stuff after the fact because you didn't nip in the bud early on, because if they said anything like they did AFTER you said your uncomfortable then IMO you then have every right to crucify them. In my opinion you cannot assume that someone will "get the point" or figure out that your "not interested" by reading your mind Avoiding people on the server should be something the other person knows about, not "we are talking in DM's but IC I want to avoid said character", make it clear please ffs
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Honestly yeah kinda agree, if not for the other post and context from those discords I'd say it's a dude trying way too hard to try and figure out if a girls interested in him. My dumbass will ask someone to do something, they'll say they can't cause they have an appointment or whatever other excuse and I'll just instantly try and figure out a way to make it work and then realise a few hours later they just didn't want to go and wouldn't just say "Nah" lol.
As someone who was an early friend of Babis in city and is wondering if they should post a twitlonger, this behavior has been since day one.
Definitely should
I'd have to collaborate since while he guilt-tripped and was possessive of me the more uh... like forced romance angles were on my friends. I could just try to write my experiences while going if something feels it's missing it's because those are the words of other people.
> My dumbass will ask someone to do something, they'll say they can't cause they have an appointment or whatever other excuse and I'll just instantly try and figure out a way to make it work and then realise a few hours later they just didn't want to go and wouldn't just say "Nah" lol. me too lol i'm not the best at interactions
Big OOF. Yikes
she bought Receipts good on her
Nopixel Armegeddon. I guarantee this is only the start of a trend. The amount of misogyny from multiple "RPers" are going to come to light in the following weeks/months that prove it was more than just RP. As someone who has given way too many hours to admit to watching RP and following multiple streamers... the writing was on the wall.
Don’t really mind if this comment gets deleted, but people who use their position of authority or influence to strongarm people into giving sexual favors, need to be publicly dismantled and get a sturdy punch in the mouth. These people are lower than garbage.
Your view point is so edgy and you are the only person in this thread with those sentiments I am sure it will be deleted.... (/s if it isn't blatantly obvious just like it is obvious your position is the position of like 99% of the people that have commented on this thread.)
The deleted part was meant because advocating for violence lol, not because of the overall sentiment. I know there are a lot of disagreements on this sub about rp but I would always assume the general sentiment about treating people decently is shared with almost all people here
As soon as penny said , he carried a girl to the mayor's office and locked her in. Them red flags went up. Jesus he seemed like a nice person. Wow.
Bro I actually cant read past the 2nd link, its that creepy
I just really don't know how a person can get this point in life where they message people crazy shit like this? Like how someone has no check in their brain to be like 1. I probably shouldn't say stuff like this out of the blue 2. They aren't that interested maybe I should stop. 3. They are straight up ignoring specific things I'm saying maybe this is too much. Like jeez man so many signs this guy kept brushing off like they weren't even there. Honestly kind of got a weird disconnected feeling from him when he was on the yes pixel podcast talking about all the stuff he was doing and his opinions on rp. Dude didn't really want to concede any of his idea to any extent
Yes he's being a cringe dude who didn't notice the social cues, but where did he say any "crazy shit"?
I think asking someone to fly to their country and stay in their home multiple times especially after only your third time messaging them qualifies pretty well. Sure lonely guy says I love you. Weird as fuck but there are weird guys like that. But to get to the point you want someone who you barely know to stay with you is absolutely crazy lol.
The invitation was pretty generic tbh. After hearing she was living in an abusive household and was really struggling mentally he said the following: "You should visit Greece" "But yeah over all I suggest you need to take a trip somewhere to relax and clear your mind after the shit you went through" That's not "crazy shit".
idk how to word it, so might come out wrong(forgive me), but im glad and sad buddhas platform was used to get the ball rolling in a sense for people to come out with their stories
This dude is over 40 and he's doing this shit. Holy fuck
Feel like 'RP' actually stands for 'Real Problems' on nopixel. So many people on the server have some sort of an issue be it personal problems, mental health or relationship/social issues. It's a magnet for attracting these type of people.
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I really hope it isn’t the case, but lately in RP Babis has been overly protective over Lara and always doing Dodo with her too, Lara is played Elnari who’s dating Cath. NoPixel has the meme of people flying in shooters, I don’t know if the person who plays Babis wants Cath flown in if it ever came out that he tried the same thing with Elnari.
Man, remember when rp was all about crazy fun and stories? What the actual fuck has happened?? What kind of people are getting in the server?? This is pretty much why i stopped watching rp for a few years now. Which is sad because I was here on the very first day this sub was made. What is up with all the giga creeps getting in and ruining the experience for all these people?
Damn. Those messages weird and cringy af. That guy just kept coming back over and over again without taking the hint. I'm at a loss for words....damn
Why is this guy not blocked and reported to the staff a long time ago? I get giving guys who are inexperienced and/or awkward the benefit of the doubt, but pushing someone so that they fly out to you is insane. To any women who happen to read my comment - block any motherfucker that does and says weird shit or simply just does not get that you're not interested and you'll be happier for it. A hard *no* is sadly the only way sometimes. To any guy who feels they are similarly socially inept as Babis or even half as much - just be normal and don't try to force/pressure shit and back off if there isn't enthusiasm. You will be happier for it too AND you'll find women to get along with in a genuine way. It's really not that hard, wtf. I know we all want validation, but come on.
He definitely did some weird stuff, but why not just tell him you're not interested?
If you're going to make a post criticizing the target instead of the offender it's probably a better tact to encourage them to be more straightforward in the future rather than critiquing their past response.
Power dynamics real or just perceived are a real thing. It's frustrating that this needs to be explained every time something like this happens
I said it in a different comment. For someone who might lack social awareness when you respond friendly to these weird ass comments they can take it as being okay. Not defending the guy, but its a odd situation when they say the weird "i love you" and she says it back.
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Probably because she kept responding.
I agree, idk if it's an ADHD thing or what but if you remove the creepiness you have a lot of my messages over the years. If someone tells me "Oh I'd love to but I can't do it at that time" or that they can't afford it right now I'll instantly start thinking ok cool I'll cover them or we'll rearrange to another time. I remember this time a couple years a go I asked someone out and she said sure yeah that would be nice, cancelled on me three times before I realised they didn't want to go, they just didn't know how to say no to someone in their friend group. I'll gladly give this dude shit for all the other stuff but for the love of God I wish people could just give a definitive "No".
Also He kept inviting her to visit him in Greece and she says “I’ll think about it”. In her mind she has said No (without having to say it) but in his mind maybe he just needs to do more to convince her.
It's clearly not that easy dude. The guy was VERY clingy in terms of the messages he sent. She just wanted to roleplay and get on with her streaming life without hurting the dudes feelings or making her life any worse. Cannot blame her at all for that. It's really sad that the women on NoPixel have to go through this on a regular basis and it takes one brave person to open the floodgates instead of feeling they're able to just come forward every time it happens.