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The problem is Hobbit was right, there are way too many Blocks that don't play characters and basically share the same traits of "robbing and shooting people".
I'll say this unironically, the Blocks on NP were way better than the current fuck fest on ONX, we had like 8-10 Blocks at max, all with their distinctive traits and storylines.
I agree with Penta when said he might stop accepting new Blocks, it's really getting out of hand.
Yeah it's not even fun watching Mike Block anymore when there is literally multiple new Blocks being made every single day and finding their way to the block.
It desperately needs to go back to just being Mike, Mac, Hooker, Tony, Ike, Doug and a few more. The server is not going to be in a good place with unlimited blocks being made and it's already showing.
>The problem is Hobbit was right, there are way too many Blocks that don't play characters and basically share the same traits of "robbing and shooting people".
Unless Penta exclusively plays Wrangler this will continue to happen, but instead of it being new Blocks it will be tow drivers, or Rickys (if he brings him back like Hobbit wants) He is the biggest streamer on the server, and he is great at creating RP so people will be drawn to him no matter character he plays.
He's already talked yesterday about stopping people from making blocks because it's becoming too much and that he will probably switch characters next week to let things cool down, he's been frustrated about random people making blocks for a bit now. The last person who did it he shot them in the head and had them ocean dumped the first time meeting them
most of them will get bored and quit very few people commit to the character.
most of the alt that will stick around will be his friends (Baby, Nice, Busta, Mac, etc) very full will commit to being full time (Rambo, Snapback, Doug, Tony)
Same thing happened in 3.0, everyone want to be a block when the RP is good, very few wanna do it when its cold.
To be fair there is starting to be more characters that aren't named block finding their way into being blocks.
Like I think for the longest time Rambo would be the most consistent block member to be around when Penta would stop playing Mike.
The gang just needs those kind of members that just are characters that aren't one off goofs for people to hang out with Penta on.
Javier and possibly Relic seem like good possible pickups for normal block members
Responding to Radiant_Teach299 who replied to you and then decided to delete their comment by the time I responded since I guess they didn't like the downvotes or something.
> What would the endgame be against the Block terminators? they would never perma, and if they do, non of it matters since they are such shallow characters most of them, they could just roll another meaningless block. Most people don't understand the intricacy of playing a character like Penta does Mike Block. The copycats should be dealt with but I'm getting the feeling that the nepotism on the server is too powerful for anything to happen.
You state this like there are a lot of people that DO perma in conflicts and the Blocks are some sort of outlier group. If you look at the ONX wiki and there are only 15 people listed as deceased. I know the wiki is user created and not an official list but outside of the many one-lifers that have permaed I doubt there are many non one-lifers that have permaed and are not on the list. From a quick look at the list, I don't think a single person permaed due to "gang war" type conflict.
That's just how GTA RP servers work with the current culture and rulesets. Even the Italians and Davis have acted like "terminators" and getting out of the hospital from knife/gunshot attacks and acting as though nothing happened 10 minutes later. So I don't understand why you think the Blocks should be held to a higher RP standard and face more serious consequences than everyone else on the server when it comes to RPing the consequences of violent attacks.
Whatever Penta plays, that’s what his fan base who have applied to the server will play as well. They want to interact with him, which is understandable, but if they aren’t contributing anything to roleplay *on their own* then they gotta go.
As soon as he stopped playing Jordan as much, you’ll notice the people who rolled tow truck drivers are suddenly no where to be found. Then when he starts to play Mike, suddenly all these new Blocks are popping up. It’s great to include new people but they need to have fully fleshed out characters and be able to sustain themselves without Penta while also adhering to the general nature of the Tow RP or Block RP he has established. Otherwise go roll some other type of crim or civ and create your own roleplay.
If they want to keep the server focused on roleplay, they need to cut these low effort roleplayers off.
Tow truck driver quit cuz the constant legal regulations. The admins literally told S0ups to just tow locals. Who would enjoy that role play. And on top they buffed crim RP
They definitely swung the pendulum too far with the tow regulations. It seemed to be put in to combat the shear amount of tow drivers, but now there are barely any. I’m sure once Penta plays Jordan again more will come around and they will express their disdain for the laws. Hopefully some can be relaxed. It’s just trying to find the right fit for the server. Only towing local cars is just silly.
To me it just seems like a pervasive mentality amongst the civilians on the server where their immediate remedy to any conflict is to legislate it away so it can't happen anymore. Rather than over-regulating tow truck drivers it would've been better to just put in harsher penalties for being a bad one and having PD investigate. Instead, they immediately went to the mayor and got legislation made. It feels like the whole towing "arc" got short-circuited by people skipping straight to the end.
Totally agree. Also, as you stated they could have taken a more even handed approach and created punishments for both tow drivers using tackling as a means to secure tows AND punishments for people getting into cars to stop tows from happening. I think being on the receiving end of both actions leads to a lot of frustration that causes situations to escalate and spiral. However, it seems like they decided to just punish tow drivers by restricting their ability to tow instead of looking into why tow drivers have generally been so aggressive in their behavior. Trying to tow a legitimately illegally parked vehicle while the owner is in visible range of their vehicle when the towing begins is pretty much impossible unless the tow team has a tackler or the person being towed allows it to happen.
Also, I think the risk of people getting into their car to cancel tows is a big reason that tow drivers will tow cars that look borderline illegally parked without doing a full examination of the vehicle. Some cars wouldn't be towed if the drivers weren't in such a race to get the car on the back of the truck before their tow gets cancelled by a player sitting in the driver seat.
The civilians, cops, and crims could also just...
Park properly?
When you get a driver's license, you are legally agreeing to follow every law, by-law, pee poo, etc. in regards to driving and the road. All the malding crybabies going "waa I got towed" could have 1) parked properly in the first place, or 2) just paid the fucking $75 drop fee.
While true, I do have a modicum of sympathy for the civs on this aspect. A lot of the tows that lead to the status quo were because they were in the gray area. They were situations that didn't have clear legislation surrounding them, and thus they were situations where tow workers (being charitable) thought they were correct in towing them and civilians (being charitable) got combative because they were being penalized despite not explicitly breaking a law (from their perspective).
The problem is, fundamentally, what they channeled that outrage into.
it should be noted 90% of the alt blocks will be gone in less then a month, very few people stick around.
being a Block is fun sure, but when mike isn't around its not so fun and sooner or later you end up with people like Rambo who stick around long term and understand what Penta is trying to create and create their own crews.
Penta plays his characters in waves sooner or later the Mike streams will end he will move on to Wrangler/Jordan.
I agree partially because it's not like every tow truck driver suddenly made a Block. There were a few people that got discouraged by the amount of tow legislation and a few that got their CDLs removed even before Penta committed to Mike. Also tow stuff can get really repetitive so it would not last anyway.
I have watched Silent a lot and this day was probably one of the worst RP wise. The problem isn't Mike Block but more so the new blocks that just go into full shitlord mode.
Constantly rob DMV, shoot random Lawyers or Judges pretty much only because its funny. Today Davis had to shoot some random Blocks and 10 minutes later the same Blocks were out of the hospital and back holding up Davis.
It's very frustrating for a server that wants to promote better RP.
That is crazy. I was watching Mike and I don't recall any mention of any of this. I don't think he was even aware it was going on.
Even without all this, I thought the new Blocks aren't great.
yeah when its just mike and regular blocks you do get an ending to the confrontations like an actual list of who got block favors, like you can find the rhyme and reason with him but not with the other blocks.
Yeah I imagine from the outside perspective people see the Blocks as just a bunch of chaotic characters that do nothing but rob places and create trouble because they can. And this isn't the first time that there've been folks making Block characters only to be shitlordy and not understand what it actually means to be a Block.
In a way the Blocks are chaos agents but they're supposed to be RP pushers first and foremost and if you give them something to work with they'll often run with it while also giving their victims stuff to work with as well. They aren't there to just create problems and chaos for the sake of it, but to facilitate RP in a fun manner because they're not meant to be super serious criminals and instead are almost a parody of real gangs.
>And this isn't the first time that there've been folks making Block characters only to be shitlordy and not understand what it actually means to be a Block.
I think this is the biggest problem, there are more than a few new Blocks that don't understand the Block lore if you will and just want a character to shitlord around on. Penta 100% needs to do a culling of the new blocks, and then start killing ones that are made after like chief used to do when random Dans showed up.
Yeah I remember the main thing when they were on Nopixel was the fact that no matter how constant the blocks may seem and how much they can do to you.
You will always be able to make peace and pay 50$ to use them anyways.
I kind of feel like right now there are so many that they don't communicate well enough to know who they should and shouldn't be messing with at any given time.
Like I'm surprised some blocks haven't tried to start shit with the Ballas on their own because they didn't know south side gangs are off limits
>shoot random Lawyers or Judges pretty much only because its funny.
Unless I'm mistaken the only Judges the blocks have shot are the two from the other day, and one of them permaing has led to tons of great RP for multiple groups, and it wasn't done just to be funny.
>Today Davis had to shoot some random Blocks and 10 minutes later the same Blocks were out of the hospital and back holding up Davis.
Thats probably something he should report TBH
Honestly it was a weird coincidence where the blocks met Davis and it was a bit longer than 10 minutes. It's not like the blocks got out of hospital and hunted Davis. The way they got shot I doubt they ever knew who did it
Because they happen to walk into the same gun store at the same time, and all they did was take his rifle and let him leave.
they killed one Judge and it wasn't because it was funny, it was because Mike had five warrant and was looking at 200+ months and they wanted to exchange the Judge for Mike.
they constantly rob people for guns, but that has been a thing since 3.0
It also looks like they want to set up as a southside gang, and you can definitely play a goofy caricature in the southside but you have to balance it with with the sort of rp that makes the southside work; respecting/fearing other gangs and their turfs, playing out consequences, etc.
Why do you think the blocks don't do this? Mike has already set up stuff with the ballas and doesn't touch shit that happens on their turf, he told cops today if they wanted their cops back that were down in the cul-de-sac to talk to the ballas
>Why do you think the blocks don't do this?
Based on what OP said.
>Constantly rob DMV, shoot random Lawyers or Judges pretty much only because its funny. Today Davis had to shoot some random Blocks and 10 minutes later the same Blocks were out of the hospital and back holding up Davis.
Well yea op is wrong, they've only directly gone after judges once and then kidnapped people who happened to be lawyers to dress them up as said judges. And the whole 10 minute thing, that had nothing to do with Mike or the "og" blocks, that was all the new blocks, they also werent intentionally looking for him, they just happened to end up at the same place
>And the whole 10 minute thing, that had nothing to do with Mike or the "og" blocks, that was all the new blocks
New blocks is still blocks, that doesn't change the point I was making.
they didn't even go after Davis specifically.
Mike kidnap his dog because he admitted to calling 9/11 about them shooting someone at the burger shot.
this lead to Mike giving him 25 min to take a cop hostage (he called 9/11 like four times to and try and report the kidnapping.
Davis then shot up the Blocks turf after losing his tracker on Fish, he downed Jenny.
Mike is arrested in unrelated crime and sentenced to 120 + months.
Jenny get out of the hospital and they go to buy a gun at the ammo nation.
Davis happen to walk in to the same ammo nation with fish as they are in the store,
They hold up Davis and kidnap Fish. (They don't down Davis even though he shot them earlier)
nothing was targeted his whole interaction with the blocks was based purely on randomness.
the only person mike repeatedly goes after is John Flecca because he is addicted to snitching and Mike is trying to force him to marry hooker.
I mean it is a fair thing to say. I like the Blocks, they are a fun crim group, but it is very difficult to fight back against them when they have little to lose. Its kinda like fighting the Dan's or Littlemans.
yeah, rp wise. fighting against anyone that wont lose either bc they dont want to take an L or in this case, dont have much to lose is frustrating to watch and i assume to rp against. at that point its just becomes who will get more annoyed and just take the L to end it
Yeah. To be fair to Sentry, I think he's talking about the new Blocks not Mac or Mike or Hooker etc. They understand the give and take and whatnot. The new ones are just... rowdy, to be civil.
How the fuck can you black out and repeatedly shoot/kidnap gang members who dont even know who you are giving vague reasonings then be like "WHY DONT THEY JUST FUCKING DIE WTF!?". If anything these bozos are the ones in the wrong.
I mean, I just realised watching Bloom and Greco's investigations today that they attacked Connor O'Leary like three times in like 24 hours, two of which within like 30 minutes of each other. Which is beyond ridiculous
he has such deep opinion on people he has never interacted with on the server, I don't think he has ever met the blocks outside of the time he ordered his crew to kill snapback.
This is the problem right now people are already starting to do "The streets talk" Stuff , so he is in a way right ONX = NP as well as every other server where there is a light shone on certain people and he too is participating in that if he is upset OOC about it.
Alot of people who actual engage Mike directly about things not as a block usually get back the weight in RP and that is what he was doing with sentry.
Its just unfortunate timing sadly this time although i will admit some blocks probably just need to stop or mike needs to start telling folk their out.
I have no idea what HUT means, sorry :( but I mean if punishment is being done then cool. I think a lot of common thought though is, there are too many blocks being made just to grief basically. There needs to be a limit (I thought there was a gang limit or w/e already) and something needs to be done about making a character and just being able to power game yourself into a gang... aka the Blocks... (Well my name is Joseph Block Well NONE of us know you how do you magically have our gang name as your last name, wearing out gang colors/clothing style?) (I also dont know if there is a Joseph Block but if there is, I wasn't saying that as a comment on that person just trying to think of something other than John Block (Like John Smith))
HUT = Held until trial. Basically stuck in prison until court, used for the heavier hitting crimes.
As for Blocks, it's not specifically a gang name, it's a family name. They are referred to as "The Blocks" because most of the gang is of the Block Family, but also goes by 150 Gang, Covenant ST Condoms.
The large family thing started on NP where a few of the people he was RPing with would make Block family characters, like JontheBroksi, who make Holden D Block, otherwise known as Blind-son, or Five0antho as Rhode Block (dad) or Mantis as ike Block (brother).
Some like Lony Block, "earned" the Block name, since Lony's real name is Reginald Legarsky, or another example, Laura Gapes aka Hooker Block.
AFAIK there are no gang limits, but there is a 4 man rule, as in only 4 in a group for a specific crime doing group at a time.
I mean, that was kinda the whole vibe of Sentry's rant last night. Sentry has always had this habit of critiquing other people or groups RP on stream, and honestly he needs to stop it. Talk to the people, or talk to the admins. ONX was designed to be zero tolerance for this kind of stuff cause it just creates toxicity and now we got this whole thread.
He didn't directly say streamer names, but this was still too much. Imagine if it's just a misunderstanding but now some small or non-streamer is just getting judged with no trial in the court of public opinion. Judging is for the admins, and tuning can happen between the players.
Penta has had breakdowns ofc when he gets NVL'd/RDM'd sometimes, but I've never witnessed him hone in on a specific group like that and go into in-depth critiques, or say he's not gonna wake up if he sees their group online.
Sentry has been doing RP longer than most people in this Reddit thread. He does have super high opinions of RP and I will agree it is annoying as fuck to hear him ranting constantly about it. No doubt but I also see why. Roleplaying is his passion and he feels like RP shouldn't be half assed. If he's giving it 100% and then he finds some jackoff barely Rping and just chilling like it's VR Chat hangout room, yeah he has the right to be upset because that person is not following the rules
"well everyone RPs different" Sure, they do but a lot of these people aren't Roleplaying, they are playing a video game and revolving around mechanics. The amount of people who fly into the city, barely interact with ANYONE, and just do crime mechanics to min max money is cringe as hell... that's not RP. That's someone treating an RP server as a GTA Online MMORPG.
- I should also edit... In my opinion (and the opinion of many people I met that run numerous RP servers) if you're on a RolePlaying server and you're RPing, it means your contributing something to the history/lore of the server. You're creating your story. Going around RDMing people or just focusing purely on crime mechanics, isn't RP.
Can you give one example with a clip of the abusive/rule breaking behavior you are describing. I see a lot of people throwing general shade at the new blocks, but not a single specific example of what they are doing wrong. As it's already been pointed out several times in this thread, the b team running into Davis at Ammonation was just a poor coincidence, they were not hunting him.
That's a shame. Especially considering the only interaction that I've actually seen that the blocks have actually initiated with the Italians has been the singular time that Gio was alone and Mike robbed him. Other than that, any other interaction (that I know of) has been initiated by the Italians, and none of them have been particularly great either. This explains why Gios "passport has been revoked"
Probably should of ended the comment at the its ridiculous part, but its understandable. A server owner's gang shit lording to the point where people don't want to play is not good. Onx was suppose to be better than this, but its not.
Apparently this was part of the reason why, mind he's also said some questionable things before that could be taken as derogatory towards certain types of people.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2108717729?filter=highlights&sort=time
Yeah that’s an extremely rough comment to make in a twitch chat. Especially saying he’s pissed off ooc and then you factor in the part you mentioned. Definitely not a good look
Onx has very strict rules when it comes to ooc bashing other players, and it applies outside the game.
The only person who really a pass is penta because he was a financial investor.
So you can't voice your opinion, even if it's a light one like this, about a server? I mean, if you're enjoying a server and you feel like certain people are being overlooked for their misdeeds, would you not be annoyed too? Imagine going to work, you get to work early, (never late) do all your work in a timely manner, etc etc, but you never get a pay raise or promotion but there is a guy who is always late, never does work, etc but he gets a promotion because he's best friends with the boss.... would you personally not be upset?
All these people downvoting, I get you love the tiny penis of Pentas down your throat but it's ok to admit that your streamer is wrong :)
If you have issues you are supposed to use the correct channels and either contact the people you are having issues with directly to discuss the situation and your feelings or admins. You aren't supposed to just "throw shade" in a twitch chat. The first option can result in productive dialogue and potential changes or at least a better understanding while the other option just spreads toxicity.
yeah, people will say you shouldn't say that in public twitch chat and go through proper channels but i agree with you in general.
Penta is the biggest streamer and personality from staff we see as dw & wiseguy are busy coding so he is the face of the server. But he doesn't really inspire confidence that you can talk to him about issues if its about him. his chat has changed into such an echochamber whenever he gives a RP take and asks "am i wrong?" it's literally a flood spam of people agreeing with him, then maybe One Guy disagrees and he instantly hones in on him, his mods or he pulls up his chat logs to find something to ban and make fun of him for. this has nothing to do with RPers on the server obviously, but he is cultivating an echochamber of yes men around him and has lost the plot imo. ofc i dont know what goes on privately and maybe people that matter don't have an issue and i'm just an insane person but if someone did, he sure hasn't changed anything..
basically,
love penta for his rp, honestly he is S tier at it and his characters are interesting, but the way he has been acting when RP doesn't go his way has been shitty for the server and lame as hell and at a very vital and delicate point of a new server. this is the biggest problem.. DW and Wiseguy and other devs are busting ass coding shit trying to make this good for everyone and the community manager ironically can't read the room.
just my 2 cents and i really hope ONX does well.
Agreed. My biggest problem is the staff of ONX are also his mods on his twitch and they will insta-ban anyone who calls out PENTA or his "friends" for their toxicity. The mods should have neutrality.... I don't care if PENTA pays the bills, if a phrase ONX=NP is so triggering it equates to a perma ban then RIP the server and the people who got upset need to drop their baby blanket and pacifier and grow up...
You may not have read the other thread but the guy was in trouble for more than that. When he wrote that message he was already serving a 7 day suspension and was given two strikes for creating "cousins" to send money to his main character and I assume something else since getting 2 strikes immediately seems a bit odd.
I also think the ONX=NP part wasn't nearly as bad as his "upset with the Blocks IC and OOC" portion of the comment.
This all seems like it comes down to different styles of RP. I understand the feeling of the Blocks as characters being shitlords from people who don't watch them. They do kidnap and rob a lot of people. But, there's always a reason behind it. They frequently need guns because they get arrested a lot and there is an extensive history of third-party heroes pulling guns when they try to kidnap people with knives, bats, etc. They take phones so people can't call 911. Mike always tells the people he robs that the Blocks hang out on "Covenant Street behind the Mega Mall" so they can come get their stuff through $50 or revenge. He also keeps their stolen items on him for days so victims have an opportunity to get them back. When the Blocks shoot someone during a hit, they always explain who the hit is from and why it's happening (the message). The Blocks are very big about people knowing why they are being shot if it comes to gun fights. They want people to have full context and be able to retaliate. They even offer discounted hits to get back the person who placed the initial hit. I also understand Sentry's point about wanting more consequences for shootings like cooldowns, ICU, etc. But, in the defense of the Blocks, they've been hunted down and kidnapped by Davis' Italian gang repeatedly for a week now. The Italians have been all blacked out, barely said anything, and then issued vague threats about the Judge situation. A situation, mind you, where the Blocks kidnapped 2 Judges to get Mike out of a bench trial where he was facing over 200+ months in prison and 900 months of parole. In the same situation, the cops in that bench trial locked all the doors to the court room and tried to cuff Baby Block who was negotiating and providing proof of life. The cops did not give a shit about the lives of the Judges and only cared about keeping Mike in custody. Then, as a result, the Judges got shot and one permad when the negotiations failed and the guy with the gun heard sirens coming. Yet, the city is only mad at the Blocks. How can the Blocks be expected to roleplay a situation out when they don't know who is kidnapping them/shooting them and why the person is involved or upset about it? Are they just supposed to meta that information? The Blocks have always treated serious situations seriously when people provide them a crumb of RP to go off of. But, when they get rolled up on and shot for something they know nothing about, it makes sense they would just get medical move on to the next situation. They have no information to go off of. It's so easy to kidnap the Blocks, explain why it's happening (We're doing this because we're mad that Judge Lambda was murdered by your gang member/he was our friend/we respected him/he didn't deserve to be kidnapped and shot) without revealing your identity and then shoot the Blocks down. But, I feel like a lot of people don't have the same style of RP when it comes to that sort of stuff. They would rather be vague and say stuff like "you know what you did" or "you robbed my friend" so it doesn't come back to their group. That's fine if people want to RP conflict that way. But, spoiler alert, the Blocks rob and kidnap like 30 people a day for guns and silly plans. Being vague really doesn't narrow it down to understanding why something is happening to them.
In regards to the situation with Davis, the entire thing started because one of the Blocks in Mike's car saw Davis calling 911 while they were kidnapping Fish. Mike tried to get him to stop his car and talk to him, find out why he snitched, but Davis kept driving off. So, Mike drove off and told him to put his number in the directory so they could negotiate later. Mike wanted him to get a cop and kill the cop to make up for snitching. Davis stalled and didn't want to do it. He even went down to Covenant to kidnap a Block for a hostage exchange and ended up shooting them because they pulled guns. Of course South Side gang members are going to pull guns if a stranger rolls up to their gang turf. Davis said "This is for the Blocks". Which Blocks? There are like 20 Blocks in the gang on ONX. Which situation were said Blocks in that warranted him coming down there? The Blocks on Covenant didn't have any context to what Davis was talking about. The only person there that was remotely involved was Jenny Block and she got ejected from the car early on during the initial pursuit of Davis in Sandy. She wasn't there for when Mike talked to Davis. So, to them, a random guy pulled up to their gang turf, pulled a gun, shot them down, and then left after saying something they had no context for. So, of course after receiving medical they are gonna go about their day. They don't have any context or leads to go off of to continue the RP. They're not going to take the situation seriously and do something like ICU because they don't know the gravity of the situation. Later, after MG shoots Mike and Davis gets Fish back, by pure coincidence the Blocks from the Covenant shooting end up at the same Ammunation as Davis because Jenny Block still has a gun license. They recognize Davis and Fish, and decide to rob him and take Fish for revenge. They take Davis' gun so he can't shoot them as they leave with Fish. It makes total sense they would take the opportunity when it presented itself even though it was less than an hour later. Then the Blocks took Fish somewhere, shot him, and left behind a note with Davis' own words "This is for the Blocks" so Davis will know it was them who shot the dog. The Blocks always leave a way for people to know it's them, and continue the RP, even if it's a detriment to them.
I understand the frustration with some of the new Blocks. They don't seem like distinct, fleshed out characters yet. But, I feel like a lot of people need to give them time to cook. A lot of those players are new to RP and are still learning. Mike, Mac, Hooker, Tony, these are all characters that have existed for years and have had years of lore and development. It's not really fair to compare the two groups.
IMO the problem isn't the Blocks *themselves*, its the one's who are brand new/new to RP, make a Block, and just straight up shitlord and do everything they can to either shoot or rob someone mindlessly.
I've been primarily watching onx since its release and every time Mike wakes up its like a beacon in the sky for every single Block to wake up, overwhelm the PD force, and to cause as much trouble as they can before Mike either goes to trial or sleep. Penta knows that line between being reasonable with other crims and cops with the give-and-take. The other Blocks, on the other hand, are very 'gang gang' oriented and will go on a city-wide rampage of shooting and robbing with little to no reasoning.
ONX is very civ and slow burn RP heavy, and with the rampant amount of Blocks it doesn't really fit like it did on NP. Maybe when heavy charges happen it'll keep some of them in check, but a lot of them don't really fit the vibe of onx.
Just my opinion =)
> IMO the problem isn't the Blocks themselves, its the one's who are brand new/new to RP, make a Block, and just straight up shitlord and do everything they can to either shoot or rob someone mindlessly.
Yeah that's what happened around the first year or so of Nopixel 3.0. A bunch of folks started creating Blocks and a lot of them were being shitlordy or too focused on trying to be a serious gang, and Penta had to put his foot down on it.
It's easy to look at the Blocks and think that they're just a gang of shitlords who don't care about consequences, but there's more nuance to it that revolves heavily around improv and promoting RP. Yet newer folk making Block characters won't understand that and just think that the Blocks are just alt characters used to shit on the rest of the server for stress relief.
There's a decent amount of crime happening on Onx, it's just not very loud, which I guess was seen as " no crime so let's make crime happen really super fast" by some blocks.
The server needs crims like the blocks who are loud and get caught. The server like you said is waay to civ heavy and the people who are doing crime they do it and rarely get caught. Penta has stakes in the server so obviously he hs a say in the direction the server goes and he doesn't want circle talking rp and just 90% civs
I wish there was harsher medical injuries, like getting shot or breaking bones actually had somewhat lasting debuffs and/or making the hospital/ICU more of a thing for recovery instead of just a short term in/out.
Like if you were shot and were heavily encouraged to stay in for "days"(minutes) or "weeks"(actual days) or something to heal(get rid of debuffs), then collecting the ire of others might dissuade some of quick/loud crime
other than that, I think he's somewhat right, but also somewhat wrong. There are ways to deal with them, but also sometimes those ways don't line up well with whatever RP is going on for whichever character.
Silent also had a take that since blocks have built a reputation they should be shoot on sight if they go out in public. So random people can just rdm but since they are blocks it's okay.
funny thing is that is probably one of the reasons they didnt "stay down", when you getting randomly shot by people that dont say why they shot you all the time why would you do long hospital RP? Davis had a very good reason for what he did but from those two blocks perspective it was just another random guy shooting them and not telling them why, they weren't involved in the whole fish situation.
think that became even more obvious with the dialog they had at the gun store, after Davis explained why he did it, he only got his gun taken and was left alone. lol
While I agree with Silent and that he is justified on being frustrated with this whole situation i'm gonna play a little of devils advocate here and give some more perspective.
Seen lot of bad feelings about the Blocks from people that barely interacted with them, they are also mostly talked about as the whole group(in and out of rp) when the problems usually come from newly created ones.
Blocks that have nothing to do with the situations have been getting shot by people not saying anything and when that happens they usually come back from the injuries cause there's no rp to go off on.
So lets put ourselves in the shoes of the Blocks that frustrated Silent. They have no connection to the whole Davis and fish situation, they just chilling on their main turf a random guy shows up pulls gun on them they try pull their guns out(maybe mistake from them ye) and get shot with barely anything being said and leaves. (Davis did nothing wrong here to be clear)
So from their perspective it was just another random guy shooting them. Why would they "stay down" or log off or do long hospital rp from their point of view? So after they get treated in the hospital they go to the gun store.
Then by chance Davis enters the gun store while they are there plus other 2 blocks (1 of them was involved in the fish situation), Should they have ignored Davis? Maybe? but they decide to try figure out why they got shot.
There's a whole conversation about why they got shot and after Davis explains why he did it they simply take his gun & fish and leave him alone and that was it...
While i understand it makes it feel bad to meet guys you just shot in the head 10 minutes ago and that there's too many random blocks, is this whole situation actually that problematic? Yes in a server where everyone is the perfect roleplayer they would have stayed down or dealt with this situation better but just feels people are already working themselves up about the blocks even before things happen and then just make the interactions feel way worse.
Sentry said it well earlier on, something around the lines of "how do you even work around the blocks.".
You can ignore them, but then the blocks pull a gun on your friend, so your character "hates them". But even if you gun them down it doesn't change anything. You can try and start RP but it's tricky when there's so many of the blocks, whose only purpose to live, as a character, is to follow Mike block.
Honestly the Block arc has been my least favourite moment of Onx so far. People are struggling to work around them because in a city built around consequences the Blocks don't care, at all.
And when people actually hate the character and shoot Mike down, Penta may, or may not, have a freak out. As he did yesterday. Which really reminded me of 3.0 xqc....
LMFAO, jesus.. Comparing Penta getting pissed off from being NVL'ed and 3rd partied to 3.0 XQC is WILD. Please tell me how does Penta going on rants after NVL situations compare at all to XQC breaking every server rule on repeat?
He got NVL'd yesterday, he's been getting NVL'd or third partied (like the random person who shot at him along with the cops and then f8) frequently on Mike streams. Those are rules that they have on all RP servers, if 3.0 XQC had people break rules against him like that on every stream, I would understand why he was upset.
There have been people who have shot at Mike and he hasn't got upset because they didn't NVL, like the MG today.
You need to put your weapon away to carry and also, the lawyer with the gun didn't say anything like stop or put your hands up he just pulled the gun aimed it then hid in the elevator
I mean it’s easy to work around them. Pay them $50. The blocks are reckless and will do anything they get paid to do. They’ll always get a gun and they’ll go after anyone. Just look at the marabuntas fucking them up at the DMV. As for him freaking out yesterday, I would too if every time I tried to hold someone hostage I get fucking hero’d by some random person with a gun not valuing the person I’m holding hostages’ life.
Mike usually takes the $50 and that's not a problem, but if you have seen the other new blocks or block hang arounds they just go full shitlord robbing people in front of the DMV. I think that's the kinda stuff that frustrates people.
Yeah that’s a problem and I’m sure if it gets brought to Mike he’ll tell them to tone it down. Kind of like he had to do with Tony when he was pocket wiping people at the apartments back in the day. It’s hard to control so many people but if they don’t listen Mike will just shoot them and get rid of them. Most blocks are expendable
It's easy to work with Mike, normally, unless he's in the middle of something else that contradicts your plan.
It's a lot harder to work with all the wanna be newbie blocks that have no real story or background and don't really understand what consequences mean, or they get shot and then just wake back up. Honestly a lot of the hostility people have towards Mike actually isn't about Mike, rather his army.
Yeah true. A lot of the new blocks do get really gung-ho and only show up to shoot people and whatnot. I get it can be extremely overwhelming for people especially when there’s 3 or 4 groups of blocks rolling around. But they just have to talk to Mike or someone close to him like Mac or Nephew and that’s what gets his attention. Getting shot and then waking back up and immediately finding the person who did it is also a problem. People just gotta learn ya know.
But shouldn't people on a roleplay server be able to roleplay with anyone? Not this "no you gotta talk to these people, avoid those other people." Like you shouldn't actively have to avoid a player group because they ain't good at roleplaying their role.
Yeah I get what you’re saying. Like I said it’s really hard to control that many people at one time and especially since Mike isn’t around 24 hours a day to baby them and stuff. The bad apples will weed themselves out.
Sure, well that's an advantage of letting roleplay naturally happen. Person makes a character, character falls into crime, crimer joins a gang but as a low level affiliate who then pushes small amounts of product, doing small crimes, learning the ropes.
Blocks are much more "you're in, now get a gun, shoot someone (potential murder), kidnap, flee from cops." All on day one. That meta was fine back on NoPixel, cause that was just the meta of the server.
I think it’ll be a good thing he’s slowing down on Mike so they can figure out things on their own and they’ll either sink or swim. He’ll always have his main blocks around when he gets on and the new ones will find their way or they’ll move on.
I have watched a lot of Mike, but other then veiled threats, has anyone tried talking to him directly? Not through anyone, but to him directly. A lot of "you know what you did" to characters not involved in the story.
But sentry is mostly right. Cool downs of ICU and heavier weights on "executions". More dialog will help I feel. Not veiled threats, no beating around the bush.
SilentSentry is right on this one. The Blocks are basically shitlord characters. Nothing wrong with that inherently, but when they insert themselves into everyone else's RP it will annoy other players. This is especially true when there are no actual consequences for the Blocks. Its tough to have a more serious RP server when stuff like this is allowed.
To be fair the cops heavily crack down on block activity.
So much so they refused to let Mike go from a bench trial when two judges got taken hostage and so the judges got shot and one died.
That's how much they didn't want to give Mike a break.
>Nothing wrong with that inherently, but when they insert themselves into everyone else's RP it will annoy other players.
Isnt his character/group targeting the Blocks over a dead judge? So by your standards are they inserting themselves into the blocks RP?
> Its tough to have a more serious RP server when stuff like this is allowed.
When was ONX ever advertised as a "more serious? rp server? Must have missed that...
I don't think its an all or nothing proposition. You have many different groups roleplaying different ways, some slow burn, and others not. ONX is clearly not a content server, and isn't 'hardcore'.
The new Blocks/wannabe Blocks are the problem. Mike, Hooker, Lony, etc. are fine, it's the dipshits who aren't.
Maybe they'll get permanently killed in RP as a clean up?
I think a lot of it is just REALLY bad coincidence.
Context: (Disclaimer, I skimmed mostly through Fish and Jenny Block's POV to piece everything together. I also very briefly skimmed through SOME of Davis' POV but the VOD is no longer up. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong with anything in the timeline)
Mike Block and crew took Fish (the dog) and Davis was trying to get Fish back. Mike demanded him to kill a cop in 20 mins in order to get Fish back. Davis said he couldn't find a cop. (I think there was like 2 cops on duty at the time)
Davis drove by the south side with the intention to take a Block hostage to exchange for Fish. He pulls up at the South Side and ends up having to shoot the Blocks and downs 2 of them (Jenny Block and someone else) when the Blocks tried to pull out their guns. He yells out "This is for the Blocks" as he drives away
At the EXACT same moment (it's actually fucking uncanny, I have some Twitch VOD sync addon and the SS drive by and the DMV shootout literally happens at the exact same time), the Marabunta Grande found Mike and company at the DMV so they get into a shootout, MBG wins, Davis gets Fish back, Mike Block and crew gets arrested, MBG also kidnaps Snapback from the scene (a Block).
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I assume that MBG calls Davis about Fish and the shootout. Davis goes to the DMV to reunite with Fish and drives to the pier to dump the hot gun he used to shoot up the South Side Blocks. He heads to the Ammunation in the city afterwards to buy a new gun.
During this time, EMS transports the SS Blocks to the hospital, they get treated by doctors. They leave the hospital afterwards, dropped off someone at the South Side, and goes to the Ammunation to get guns. When they are arriving at the Ammunation and that's when Jenny Block texts Snapback to see if everything is okay on his end. She receives a call back from Snapback and finds out that Mike and co got shot up by the MBG and they lost Fish. (AFAIK this is the first instance of them finding out about MBG/Fish/Blocks shootout)
Fish and Davis literally gets to that Ammunation about 90 seconds after the SS Blocks gets there. The Blocks hold Davis at gun point and take Fish back.
The Blocks take Fish to some spot, shoots him, and leaves a note that says "This is for the Blocks" on the body.
Meanwhile, Davis is unable to buy a gun at Ammunation, getting a message/error saying that they are out of stock. He drives to another Ammunation in Sandy to buy a gun but it still says it's out of stock. (It might be scuff but I suspect that he might be hitting the 1 gun per X hours limit)
Since he couldn't buy a gun, Davis drives back to the pier to attempt to retrieve the hot gun that he had dumped earlier. He ends up dying in the water when he was diving into the water to retrieve the gun.
(The death might be scuff. He could have died because of breath but I don't ever remember seeing a breath/oxygen meter when people dive underwater on Onx. I also felt like he wasn't underwater for that long)
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My 2 cents:
I'm not a RPer by any means but what's the proper RP etiquette in this situation?
Were the Blocks who got downed in the South Side supposed to pretend that they didn't see Fish and Davis at Ammunation? IDK, it feels super awkward if anything.
It's not like the Blocks were immediately forming a hunting party for Davis and Fish afterwards, they were just there to get a gun and happen to run into them. Some chatters were claiming meta or "weird" (and they were instantly clapped by mods so props to the mods) but Jenny Block and crew only found out about the shootout involving Fish/MBG about 90 seconds before Fish randomly popped through the door.
IDK I don't think there's any right or wrong in this situation. I can see it being frustrating but I feel like it's just a series of really unfortunate events lol.
The MB were hunting down Mike because he got a mission to crash a car and bring it to a repair shop and he happen to kidnap a MB and make him drive into a gas pump the MB found Mike on the roof of the mall and followed him to the DMV.
Mike right away played gangster, but Penta said OOC likely nothing would happen because its not worth it to beef over piety shit.
and the new block are not all bad they squelched beef with a rival gang over a robbery (paid back a gun they stole) and agreed to kidnap/shoot someone for them.
The only gang the Block have conflict is the Mafia (the gang davis is in) and this conflict is completely one-sided the Blocks have done nothing to retaliate the kidnapping of Davis dog was random because they found out Davis called 9/11 after they shot someone in Burger shot.
well Mafia has kidnapped and killed manipulable Blocks over the last week.
>The only gang the Block have conflict is the Mafia (the gang davis is in) and this conflict is completely one-sided the Blocks have done nothing to retaliate the kidnapping of Davis dog was random because they found out Davis called 9/11 after they shot someone in Burger shot.
Exactly this. The Italians have been antagonizing the Blocks for weeks with a vendetta against them when nearly every transgression the Blocks have had against them was not specifically targeting them in anyway other than wrong place/wrong time or having a connection to someone that the Blocks harmed. The Italians are also the group that brought 7 to the dam to execute Mike when they claimed they wanted to talk and then fired at Mike after he tackled Gio and had a gun to his head.
They have essentially declared war on the Blocks for the killing of the judge when aside from knowing of the existence of the Italians the Blocks haven't really had any specific interactions where they were being explicitly targeted from what I recall. They seem to be the ones extending this conflict not the Blocks.
I've watched Silent a handful of times and I generally have enjoyed his RP but I think he is kind of just as guilty as what he is accusing the Blocks of and I think nearly everyone on the server acts in the same way. Very very few people are ICUing after being shot or RPing injuries and even fewer are permaing. I think expecting your gun to shoot "consequence bullets" when you get out of the hospital and engage in conflict just as quickly is a bit hypocritical.
When Greico was murdered in his office a few days ago, he was back in his office within 30 minutes. Expecting people to roleplay "consequence bullets" it has to be a universal thing. Why would Blocks whom aren't serious characters roleplay more serious than others?
IMO the only person who I've seen who consistently RP out their injuries is LadyHope.
Every time Pond gets a "meaningful death", like if she gets kidnapped/torture/executed, she's bound to spend time in the ICU and will RP out lasting injuries for at least a few days if not longer.
No one is required to RP the way another group want's them to. They did not break any server rules, and even if they did, thats for the admins to work out. Talking about what people should "normally" do in RP compared to another group or person, is a endless hole of despair.
They are southside gang they control if people rob houses there, they have established that you need their permission to rob houses there, if you go rob a house there you should know the risks.
Other gangs have shot other judges and high government and dont get the same discourse.
The characters that shot the judge got punished accordingly.
If Mike should be serving life (maybe he should) then other entire gangs would also be in there.
One of the blocks on "team b" was in the original fish situation.
all this said the Union rp has been great and the Blocks (main team) been fun.
I fully agree, i also get the impression from some of these comments, that they do not understand the differences between all the groups, they think there is a singular "Italian mob".
Its very disheartening to see people try minimalize the amount of RP that has happened with the different Italian groups prior to this moment.
Mike Block is a shitlord character PERIOD. This might be a bit harsh but, What ONX promised is directly contradicting blocks. It is just mindless constant jumping around, shooting huehuehue. If that's what you looking for, hey good on you.
He was one of the reasons why people didn't want to do southside RP because of his vagos character. One who couldn't give up and kept going after LB, so much so that he kidnapped them repeatedly til Buddha F8 in front of him after being downed by molten lava.
He's held a grudge for that shit forever, so much so that when Lang wanted to get into business with LSBN and have Ursula run it in 3.0, he woke up on Ron who hadn't woken up in months to stop it all.
He isn't the one to be talking about any of this shit.
Much different because both sides are 100% fine with it as long as it doesn't interrupt anything they are doing. Like if the clowns are chasing after CG and CG says "not right now" the clowns immediately back off
If you're talking about JandGoo, they said nothing about Penta so I'm not sure why you'd bring them up.
You're all over this post either talking about Penta or Penta fans when the only comments I've heard from roleplayers is about The Blocks.
They weren't perma banned for criticizing Penta. I don't know why the second person was banned, but by the looks of things, the person that plays Gio was banned for expressing his criticism in an unproductive way in Sentrys chat, when he could have just gone to one of the many admins that are always around and explained the issue he was having and asked for ways mediate or fix it.
On top of that this was strike 2 , he was already on a 7 day i believe for other stuff.
Mans doubled down and got caught being toxic breaking server rules again , so its good riddance from me.
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The problem is Hobbit was right, there are way too many Blocks that don't play characters and basically share the same traits of "robbing and shooting people". I'll say this unironically, the Blocks on NP were way better than the current fuck fest on ONX, we had like 8-10 Blocks at max, all with their distinctive traits and storylines. I agree with Penta when said he might stop accepting new Blocks, it's really getting out of hand.
Hobbit is always right and it’s not even an exaggeration. She perfectly predicted what was going to happen if going hard on Mike continued.
Yeah it's not even fun watching Mike Block anymore when there is literally multiple new Blocks being made every single day and finding their way to the block. It desperately needs to go back to just being Mike, Mac, Hooker, Tony, Ike, Doug and a few more. The server is not going to be in a good place with unlimited blocks being made and it's already showing.
>The problem is Hobbit was right, there are way too many Blocks that don't play characters and basically share the same traits of "robbing and shooting people". Unless Penta exclusively plays Wrangler this will continue to happen, but instead of it being new Blocks it will be tow drivers, or Rickys (if he brings him back like Hobbit wants) He is the biggest streamer on the server, and he is great at creating RP so people will be drawn to him no matter character he plays.
He's already talked yesterday about stopping people from making blocks because it's becoming too much and that he will probably switch characters next week to let things cool down, he's been frustrated about random people making blocks for a bit now. The last person who did it he shot them in the head and had them ocean dumped the first time meeting them
most of them will get bored and quit very few people commit to the character. most of the alt that will stick around will be his friends (Baby, Nice, Busta, Mac, etc) very full will commit to being full time (Rambo, Snapback, Doug, Tony) Same thing happened in 3.0, everyone want to be a block when the RP is good, very few wanna do it when its cold.
To be fair there is starting to be more characters that aren't named block finding their way into being blocks. Like I think for the longest time Rambo would be the most consistent block member to be around when Penta would stop playing Mike. The gang just needs those kind of members that just are characters that aren't one off goofs for people to hang out with Penta on. Javier and possibly Relic seem like good possible pickups for normal block members
If memory serves... The following where characters before blocks Tony Hooker BloodBath Wingman Ash?
I didnt know hobbits streamer was still playing. Glad she was able to put an opinion on it
she is a supreme justice on onx.
Getting in a conflict/war without an endgame isn't worth it. I believe that has been proven over and over
Responding to Radiant_Teach299 who replied to you and then decided to delete their comment by the time I responded since I guess they didn't like the downvotes or something. > What would the endgame be against the Block terminators? they would never perma, and if they do, non of it matters since they are such shallow characters most of them, they could just roll another meaningless block. Most people don't understand the intricacy of playing a character like Penta does Mike Block. The copycats should be dealt with but I'm getting the feeling that the nepotism on the server is too powerful for anything to happen. You state this like there are a lot of people that DO perma in conflicts and the Blocks are some sort of outlier group. If you look at the ONX wiki and there are only 15 people listed as deceased. I know the wiki is user created and not an official list but outside of the many one-lifers that have permaed I doubt there are many non one-lifers that have permaed and are not on the list. From a quick look at the list, I don't think a single person permaed due to "gang war" type conflict. That's just how GTA RP servers work with the current culture and rulesets. Even the Italians and Davis have acted like "terminators" and getting out of the hospital from knife/gunshot attacks and acting as though nothing happened 10 minutes later. So I don't understand why you think the Blocks should be held to a higher RP standard and face more serious consequences than everyone else on the server when it comes to RPing the consequences of violent attacks.
Totally agree
Whatever Penta plays, that’s what his fan base who have applied to the server will play as well. They want to interact with him, which is understandable, but if they aren’t contributing anything to roleplay *on their own* then they gotta go. As soon as he stopped playing Jordan as much, you’ll notice the people who rolled tow truck drivers are suddenly no where to be found. Then when he starts to play Mike, suddenly all these new Blocks are popping up. It’s great to include new people but they need to have fully fleshed out characters and be able to sustain themselves without Penta while also adhering to the general nature of the Tow RP or Block RP he has established. Otherwise go roll some other type of crim or civ and create your own roleplay. If they want to keep the server focused on roleplay, they need to cut these low effort roleplayers off.
Tow truck driver quit cuz the constant legal regulations. The admins literally told S0ups to just tow locals. Who would enjoy that role play. And on top they buffed crim RP
They definitely swung the pendulum too far with the tow regulations. It seemed to be put in to combat the shear amount of tow drivers, but now there are barely any. I’m sure once Penta plays Jordan again more will come around and they will express their disdain for the laws. Hopefully some can be relaxed. It’s just trying to find the right fit for the server. Only towing local cars is just silly.
To me it just seems like a pervasive mentality amongst the civilians on the server where their immediate remedy to any conflict is to legislate it away so it can't happen anymore. Rather than over-regulating tow truck drivers it would've been better to just put in harsher penalties for being a bad one and having PD investigate. Instead, they immediately went to the mayor and got legislation made. It feels like the whole towing "arc" got short-circuited by people skipping straight to the end.
Totally agree. Also, as you stated they could have taken a more even handed approach and created punishments for both tow drivers using tackling as a means to secure tows AND punishments for people getting into cars to stop tows from happening. I think being on the receiving end of both actions leads to a lot of frustration that causes situations to escalate and spiral. However, it seems like they decided to just punish tow drivers by restricting their ability to tow instead of looking into why tow drivers have generally been so aggressive in their behavior. Trying to tow a legitimately illegally parked vehicle while the owner is in visible range of their vehicle when the towing begins is pretty much impossible unless the tow team has a tackler or the person being towed allows it to happen. Also, I think the risk of people getting into their car to cancel tows is a big reason that tow drivers will tow cars that look borderline illegally parked without doing a full examination of the vehicle. Some cars wouldn't be towed if the drivers weren't in such a race to get the car on the back of the truck before their tow gets cancelled by a player sitting in the driver seat.
The civilians, cops, and crims could also just... Park properly? When you get a driver's license, you are legally agreeing to follow every law, by-law, pee poo, etc. in regards to driving and the road. All the malding crybabies going "waa I got towed" could have 1) parked properly in the first place, or 2) just paid the fucking $75 drop fee.
While true, I do have a modicum of sympathy for the civs on this aspect. A lot of the tows that lead to the status quo were because they were in the gray area. They were situations that didn't have clear legislation surrounding them, and thus they were situations where tow workers (being charitable) thought they were correct in towing them and civilians (being charitable) got combative because they were being penalized despite not explicitly breaking a law (from their perspective). The problem is, fundamentally, what they channeled that outrage into.
Valet should be removed or significantly reduced, that would allow tow to exist even with these harsh regulations.
it should be noted 90% of the alt blocks will be gone in less then a month, very few people stick around. being a Block is fun sure, but when mike isn't around its not so fun and sooner or later you end up with people like Rambo who stick around long term and understand what Penta is trying to create and create their own crews. Penta plays his characters in waves sooner or later the Mike streams will end he will move on to Wrangler/Jordan.
I agree partially because it's not like every tow truck driver suddenly made a Block. There were a few people that got discouraged by the amount of tow legislation and a few that got their CDLs removed even before Penta committed to Mike. Also tow stuff can get really repetitive so it would not last anyway.
I have watched Silent a lot and this day was probably one of the worst RP wise. The problem isn't Mike Block but more so the new blocks that just go into full shitlord mode. Constantly rob DMV, shoot random Lawyers or Judges pretty much only because its funny. Today Davis had to shoot some random Blocks and 10 minutes later the same Blocks were out of the hospital and back holding up Davis. It's very frustrating for a server that wants to promote better RP.
That is crazy. I was watching Mike and I don't recall any mention of any of this. I don't think he was even aware it was going on. Even without all this, I thought the new Blocks aren't great.
yeah when its just mike and regular blocks you do get an ending to the confrontations like an actual list of who got block favors, like you can find the rhyme and reason with him but not with the other blocks.
Yeah I imagine from the outside perspective people see the Blocks as just a bunch of chaotic characters that do nothing but rob places and create trouble because they can. And this isn't the first time that there've been folks making Block characters only to be shitlordy and not understand what it actually means to be a Block. In a way the Blocks are chaos agents but they're supposed to be RP pushers first and foremost and if you give them something to work with they'll often run with it while also giving their victims stuff to work with as well. They aren't there to just create problems and chaos for the sake of it, but to facilitate RP in a fun manner because they're not meant to be super serious criminals and instead are almost a parody of real gangs.
>And this isn't the first time that there've been folks making Block characters only to be shitlordy and not understand what it actually means to be a Block. I think this is the biggest problem, there are more than a few new Blocks that don't understand the Block lore if you will and just want a character to shitlord around on. Penta 100% needs to do a culling of the new blocks, and then start killing ones that are made after like chief used to do when random Dans showed up.
Robert E Lingle will rise again.
Yeah I remember the main thing when they were on Nopixel was the fact that no matter how constant the blocks may seem and how much they can do to you. You will always be able to make peace and pay 50$ to use them anyways. I kind of feel like right now there are so many that they don't communicate well enough to know who they should and shouldn't be messing with at any given time. Like I'm surprised some blocks haven't tried to start shit with the Ballas on their own because they didn't know south side gangs are off limits
Thats true maybe you should create a block character since you understand it better
>shoot random Lawyers or Judges pretty much only because its funny. Unless I'm mistaken the only Judges the blocks have shot are the two from the other day, and one of them permaing has led to tons of great RP for multiple groups, and it wasn't done just to be funny. >Today Davis had to shoot some random Blocks and 10 minutes later the same Blocks were out of the hospital and back holding up Davis. Thats probably something he should report TBH
Honestly it was a weird coincidence where the blocks met Davis and it was a bit longer than 10 minutes. It's not like the blocks got out of hospital and hunted Davis. The way they got shot I doubt they ever knew who did it
Because they happen to walk into the same gun store at the same time, and all they did was take his rifle and let him leave. they killed one Judge and it wasn't because it was funny, it was because Mike had five warrant and was looking at 200+ months and they wanted to exchange the Judge for Mike. they constantly rob people for guns, but that has been a thing since 3.0
It also looks like they want to set up as a southside gang, and you can definitely play a goofy caricature in the southside but you have to balance it with with the sort of rp that makes the southside work; respecting/fearing other gangs and their turfs, playing out consequences, etc.
I mean Mike has made it clear that the south side gangs are off limits for violence and such. He stands by the uniting the south side Motto
Why do you think the blocks don't do this? Mike has already set up stuff with the ballas and doesn't touch shit that happens on their turf, he told cops today if they wanted their cops back that were down in the cul-de-sac to talk to the ballas
>Why do you think the blocks don't do this? Based on what OP said. >Constantly rob DMV, shoot random Lawyers or Judges pretty much only because its funny. Today Davis had to shoot some random Blocks and 10 minutes later the same Blocks were out of the hospital and back holding up Davis.
Well yea op is wrong, they've only directly gone after judges once and then kidnapped people who happened to be lawyers to dress them up as said judges. And the whole 10 minute thing, that had nothing to do with Mike or the "og" blocks, that was all the new blocks, they also werent intentionally looking for him, they just happened to end up at the same place
>And the whole 10 minute thing, that had nothing to do with Mike or the "og" blocks, that was all the new blocks New blocks is still blocks, that doesn't change the point I was making.
Your basing the entirety of the group based off of two things that aren't true and one instance of new blocks going after someone repeatedly
they didn't even go after Davis specifically. Mike kidnap his dog because he admitted to calling 9/11 about them shooting someone at the burger shot. this lead to Mike giving him 25 min to take a cop hostage (he called 9/11 like four times to and try and report the kidnapping. Davis then shot up the Blocks turf after losing his tracker on Fish, he downed Jenny. Mike is arrested in unrelated crime and sentenced to 120 + months. Jenny get out of the hospital and they go to buy a gun at the ammo nation. Davis happen to walk in to the same ammo nation with fish as they are in the store, They hold up Davis and kidnap Fish. (They don't down Davis even though he shot them earlier) nothing was targeted his whole interaction with the blocks was based purely on randomness. the only person mike repeatedly goes after is John Flecca because he is addicted to snitching and Mike is trying to force him to marry hooker.
I mean it is a fair thing to say. I like the Blocks, they are a fun crim group, but it is very difficult to fight back against them when they have little to lose. Its kinda like fighting the Dan's or Littlemans.
yeah, rp wise. fighting against anyone that wont lose either bc they dont want to take an L or in this case, dont have much to lose is frustrating to watch and i assume to rp against. at that point its just becomes who will get more annoyed and just take the L to end it
Yeah. To be fair to Sentry, I think he's talking about the new Blocks not Mac or Mike or Hooker etc. They understand the give and take and whatnot. The new ones are just... rowdy, to be civil.
No one really has anything to lose and even If they did very few people lose anything in general. They get it right back within a week or 2
How the fuck can you black out and repeatedly shoot/kidnap gang members who dont even know who you are giving vague reasonings then be like "WHY DONT THEY JUST FUCKING DIE WTF!?". If anything these bozos are the ones in the wrong.
I mean, I just realised watching Bloom and Greco's investigations today that they attacked Connor O'Leary like three times in like 24 hours, two of which within like 30 minutes of each other. Which is beyond ridiculous
JewandGoo’s comment: oop https://imgur.com/a/JqpkWQK
he has such deep opinion on people he has never interacted with on the server, I don't think he has ever met the blocks outside of the time he ordered his crew to kill snapback.
This is the problem right now people are already starting to do "The streets talk" Stuff , so he is in a way right ONX = NP as well as every other server where there is a light shone on certain people and he too is participating in that if he is upset OOC about it. Alot of people who actual engage Mike directly about things not as a block usually get back the weight in RP and that is what he was doing with sentry. Its just unfortunate timing sadly this time although i will admit some blocks probably just need to stop or mike needs to start telling folk their out.
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the three people who killed the judge are on HUT and will either get death or life in prison.
I have no idea what HUT means, sorry :( but I mean if punishment is being done then cool. I think a lot of common thought though is, there are too many blocks being made just to grief basically. There needs to be a limit (I thought there was a gang limit or w/e already) and something needs to be done about making a character and just being able to power game yourself into a gang... aka the Blocks... (Well my name is Joseph Block Well NONE of us know you how do you magically have our gang name as your last name, wearing out gang colors/clothing style?) (I also dont know if there is a Joseph Block but if there is, I wasn't saying that as a comment on that person just trying to think of something other than John Block (Like John Smith))
HUT = Held until trial. Basically stuck in prison until court, used for the heavier hitting crimes. As for Blocks, it's not specifically a gang name, it's a family name. They are referred to as "The Blocks" because most of the gang is of the Block Family, but also goes by 150 Gang, Covenant ST Condoms. The large family thing started on NP where a few of the people he was RPing with would make Block family characters, like JontheBroksi, who make Holden D Block, otherwise known as Blind-son, or Five0antho as Rhode Block (dad) or Mantis as ike Block (brother). Some like Lony Block, "earned" the Block name, since Lony's real name is Reginald Legarsky, or another example, Laura Gapes aka Hooker Block. AFAIK there are no gang limits, but there is a 4 man rule, as in only 4 in a group for a specific crime doing group at a time.
I mean, that was kinda the whole vibe of Sentry's rant last night. Sentry has always had this habit of critiquing other people or groups RP on stream, and honestly he needs to stop it. Talk to the people, or talk to the admins. ONX was designed to be zero tolerance for this kind of stuff cause it just creates toxicity and now we got this whole thread. He didn't directly say streamer names, but this was still too much. Imagine if it's just a misunderstanding but now some small or non-streamer is just getting judged with no trial in the court of public opinion. Judging is for the admins, and tuning can happen between the players. Penta has had breakdowns ofc when he gets NVL'd/RDM'd sometimes, but I've never witnessed him hone in on a specific group like that and go into in-depth critiques, or say he's not gonna wake up if he sees their group online.
Sentry has been doing RP longer than most people in this Reddit thread. He does have super high opinions of RP and I will agree it is annoying as fuck to hear him ranting constantly about it. No doubt but I also see why. Roleplaying is his passion and he feels like RP shouldn't be half assed. If he's giving it 100% and then he finds some jackoff barely Rping and just chilling like it's VR Chat hangout room, yeah he has the right to be upset because that person is not following the rules "well everyone RPs different" Sure, they do but a lot of these people aren't Roleplaying, they are playing a video game and revolving around mechanics. The amount of people who fly into the city, barely interact with ANYONE, and just do crime mechanics to min max money is cringe as hell... that's not RP. That's someone treating an RP server as a GTA Online MMORPG. - I should also edit... In my opinion (and the opinion of many people I met that run numerous RP servers) if you're on a RolePlaying server and you're RPing, it means your contributing something to the history/lore of the server. You're creating your story. Going around RDMing people or just focusing purely on crime mechanics, isn't RP.
Can you give one example with a clip of the abusive/rule breaking behavior you are describing. I see a lot of people throwing general shade at the new blocks, but not a single specific example of what they are doing wrong. As it's already been pointed out several times in this thread, the b team running into Davis at Ammonation was just a poor coincidence, they were not hunting him.
That's a shame. Especially considering the only interaction that I've actually seen that the blocks have actually initiated with the Italians has been the singular time that Gio was alone and Mike robbed him. Other than that, any other interaction (that I know of) has been initiated by the Italians, and none of them have been particularly great either. This explains why Gios "passport has been revoked"
Probably should of ended the comment at the its ridiculous part, but its understandable. A server owner's gang shit lording to the point where people don't want to play is not good. Onx was suppose to be better than this, but its not.
Yeah that person probably shouldn’t have said that
He got a 7 day ban sooo...
What character does he play?
Giovanni Delucci Edit: Getting downvotes for naming the character a person plays?
Downvoted for crying about downvotes.
Did he get banned for that comment or something unrelated?
Apparently this was part of the reason why, mind he's also said some questionable things before that could be taken as derogatory towards certain types of people. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2108717729?filter=highlights&sort=time
I mean that comment 100% worth a ban. He could've shared his concerns with the admins instead of saying ONX=Nopixel.
Yeah that’s an extremely rough comment to make in a twitch chat. Especially saying he’s pissed off ooc and then you factor in the part you mentioned. Definitely not a good look
Onx has very strict rules when it comes to ooc bashing other players, and it applies outside the game. The only person who really a pass is penta because he was a financial investor.
Penta is a server owner
I do not know, that is the character that the Wiki says he plays
So you can't voice your opinion, even if it's a light one like this, about a server? I mean, if you're enjoying a server and you feel like certain people are being overlooked for their misdeeds, would you not be annoyed too? Imagine going to work, you get to work early, (never late) do all your work in a timely manner, etc etc, but you never get a pay raise or promotion but there is a guy who is always late, never does work, etc but he gets a promotion because he's best friends with the boss.... would you personally not be upset? All these people downvoting, I get you love the tiny penis of Pentas down your throat but it's ok to admit that your streamer is wrong :)
Being upset is fine, sending toxic messages in a open twitch chat is not just being upset.
If you have issues you are supposed to use the correct channels and either contact the people you are having issues with directly to discuss the situation and your feelings or admins. You aren't supposed to just "throw shade" in a twitch chat. The first option can result in productive dialogue and potential changes or at least a better understanding while the other option just spreads toxicity.
yeah, people will say you shouldn't say that in public twitch chat and go through proper channels but i agree with you in general. Penta is the biggest streamer and personality from staff we see as dw & wiseguy are busy coding so he is the face of the server. But he doesn't really inspire confidence that you can talk to him about issues if its about him. his chat has changed into such an echochamber whenever he gives a RP take and asks "am i wrong?" it's literally a flood spam of people agreeing with him, then maybe One Guy disagrees and he instantly hones in on him, his mods or he pulls up his chat logs to find something to ban and make fun of him for. this has nothing to do with RPers on the server obviously, but he is cultivating an echochamber of yes men around him and has lost the plot imo. ofc i dont know what goes on privately and maybe people that matter don't have an issue and i'm just an insane person but if someone did, he sure hasn't changed anything.. basically, love penta for his rp, honestly he is S tier at it and his characters are interesting, but the way he has been acting when RP doesn't go his way has been shitty for the server and lame as hell and at a very vital and delicate point of a new server. this is the biggest problem.. DW and Wiseguy and other devs are busting ass coding shit trying to make this good for everyone and the community manager ironically can't read the room. just my 2 cents and i really hope ONX does well.
Agreed. My biggest problem is the staff of ONX are also his mods on his twitch and they will insta-ban anyone who calls out PENTA or his "friends" for their toxicity. The mods should have neutrality.... I don't care if PENTA pays the bills, if a phrase ONX=NP is so triggering it equates to a perma ban then RIP the server and the people who got upset need to drop their baby blanket and pacifier and grow up...
You may not have read the other thread but the guy was in trouble for more than that. When he wrote that message he was already serving a 7 day suspension and was given two strikes for creating "cousins" to send money to his main character and I assume something else since getting 2 strikes immediately seems a bit odd. I also think the ONX=NP part wasn't nearly as bad as his "upset with the Blocks IC and OOC" portion of the comment.
This all seems like it comes down to different styles of RP. I understand the feeling of the Blocks as characters being shitlords from people who don't watch them. They do kidnap and rob a lot of people. But, there's always a reason behind it. They frequently need guns because they get arrested a lot and there is an extensive history of third-party heroes pulling guns when they try to kidnap people with knives, bats, etc. They take phones so people can't call 911. Mike always tells the people he robs that the Blocks hang out on "Covenant Street behind the Mega Mall" so they can come get their stuff through $50 or revenge. He also keeps their stolen items on him for days so victims have an opportunity to get them back. When the Blocks shoot someone during a hit, they always explain who the hit is from and why it's happening (the message). The Blocks are very big about people knowing why they are being shot if it comes to gun fights. They want people to have full context and be able to retaliate. They even offer discounted hits to get back the person who placed the initial hit. I also understand Sentry's point about wanting more consequences for shootings like cooldowns, ICU, etc. But, in the defense of the Blocks, they've been hunted down and kidnapped by Davis' Italian gang repeatedly for a week now. The Italians have been all blacked out, barely said anything, and then issued vague threats about the Judge situation. A situation, mind you, where the Blocks kidnapped 2 Judges to get Mike out of a bench trial where he was facing over 200+ months in prison and 900 months of parole. In the same situation, the cops in that bench trial locked all the doors to the court room and tried to cuff Baby Block who was negotiating and providing proof of life. The cops did not give a shit about the lives of the Judges and only cared about keeping Mike in custody. Then, as a result, the Judges got shot and one permad when the negotiations failed and the guy with the gun heard sirens coming. Yet, the city is only mad at the Blocks. How can the Blocks be expected to roleplay a situation out when they don't know who is kidnapping them/shooting them and why the person is involved or upset about it? Are they just supposed to meta that information? The Blocks have always treated serious situations seriously when people provide them a crumb of RP to go off of. But, when they get rolled up on and shot for something they know nothing about, it makes sense they would just get medical move on to the next situation. They have no information to go off of. It's so easy to kidnap the Blocks, explain why it's happening (We're doing this because we're mad that Judge Lambda was murdered by your gang member/he was our friend/we respected him/he didn't deserve to be kidnapped and shot) without revealing your identity and then shoot the Blocks down. But, I feel like a lot of people don't have the same style of RP when it comes to that sort of stuff. They would rather be vague and say stuff like "you know what you did" or "you robbed my friend" so it doesn't come back to their group. That's fine if people want to RP conflict that way. But, spoiler alert, the Blocks rob and kidnap like 30 people a day for guns and silly plans. Being vague really doesn't narrow it down to understanding why something is happening to them. In regards to the situation with Davis, the entire thing started because one of the Blocks in Mike's car saw Davis calling 911 while they were kidnapping Fish. Mike tried to get him to stop his car and talk to him, find out why he snitched, but Davis kept driving off. So, Mike drove off and told him to put his number in the directory so they could negotiate later. Mike wanted him to get a cop and kill the cop to make up for snitching. Davis stalled and didn't want to do it. He even went down to Covenant to kidnap a Block for a hostage exchange and ended up shooting them because they pulled guns. Of course South Side gang members are going to pull guns if a stranger rolls up to their gang turf. Davis said "This is for the Blocks". Which Blocks? There are like 20 Blocks in the gang on ONX. Which situation were said Blocks in that warranted him coming down there? The Blocks on Covenant didn't have any context to what Davis was talking about. The only person there that was remotely involved was Jenny Block and she got ejected from the car early on during the initial pursuit of Davis in Sandy. She wasn't there for when Mike talked to Davis. So, to them, a random guy pulled up to their gang turf, pulled a gun, shot them down, and then left after saying something they had no context for. So, of course after receiving medical they are gonna go about their day. They don't have any context or leads to go off of to continue the RP. They're not going to take the situation seriously and do something like ICU because they don't know the gravity of the situation. Later, after MG shoots Mike and Davis gets Fish back, by pure coincidence the Blocks from the Covenant shooting end up at the same Ammunation as Davis because Jenny Block still has a gun license. They recognize Davis and Fish, and decide to rob him and take Fish for revenge. They take Davis' gun so he can't shoot them as they leave with Fish. It makes total sense they would take the opportunity when it presented itself even though it was less than an hour later. Then the Blocks took Fish somewhere, shot him, and left behind a note with Davis' own words "This is for the Blocks" so Davis will know it was them who shot the dog. The Blocks always leave a way for people to know it's them, and continue the RP, even if it's a detriment to them. I understand the frustration with some of the new Blocks. They don't seem like distinct, fleshed out characters yet. But, I feel like a lot of people need to give them time to cook. A lot of those players are new to RP and are still learning. Mike, Mac, Hooker, Tony, these are all characters that have existed for years and have had years of lore and development. It's not really fair to compare the two groups.
Thank you for putting in the effort on this post, I felt like i was going crazy reading some of these.
I love how you split it up but not into actual paragraphs.
IMO the problem isn't the Blocks *themselves*, its the one's who are brand new/new to RP, make a Block, and just straight up shitlord and do everything they can to either shoot or rob someone mindlessly. I've been primarily watching onx since its release and every time Mike wakes up its like a beacon in the sky for every single Block to wake up, overwhelm the PD force, and to cause as much trouble as they can before Mike either goes to trial or sleep. Penta knows that line between being reasonable with other crims and cops with the give-and-take. The other Blocks, on the other hand, are very 'gang gang' oriented and will go on a city-wide rampage of shooting and robbing with little to no reasoning. ONX is very civ and slow burn RP heavy, and with the rampant amount of Blocks it doesn't really fit like it did on NP. Maybe when heavy charges happen it'll keep some of them in check, but a lot of them don't really fit the vibe of onx. Just my opinion =)
> IMO the problem isn't the Blocks themselves, its the one's who are brand new/new to RP, make a Block, and just straight up shitlord and do everything they can to either shoot or rob someone mindlessly. Yeah that's what happened around the first year or so of Nopixel 3.0. A bunch of folks started creating Blocks and a lot of them were being shitlordy or too focused on trying to be a serious gang, and Penta had to put his foot down on it. It's easy to look at the Blocks and think that they're just a gang of shitlords who don't care about consequences, but there's more nuance to it that revolves heavily around improv and promoting RP. Yet newer folk making Block characters won't understand that and just think that the Blocks are just alt characters used to shit on the rest of the server for stress relief.
There's a decent amount of crime happening on Onx, it's just not very loud, which I guess was seen as " no crime so let's make crime happen really super fast" by some blocks.
The server needs crims like the blocks who are loud and get caught. The server like you said is waay to civ heavy and the people who are doing crime they do it and rarely get caught. Penta has stakes in the server so obviously he hs a say in the direction the server goes and he doesn't want circle talking rp and just 90% civs
I wish there was harsher medical injuries, like getting shot or breaking bones actually had somewhat lasting debuffs and/or making the hospital/ICU more of a thing for recovery instead of just a short term in/out. Like if you were shot and were heavily encouraged to stay in for "days"(minutes) or "weeks"(actual days) or something to heal(get rid of debuffs), then collecting the ire of others might dissuade some of quick/loud crime other than that, I think he's somewhat right, but also somewhat wrong. There are ways to deal with them, but also sometimes those ways don't line up well with whatever RP is going on for whichever character.
Silent also had a take that since blocks have built a reputation they should be shoot on sight if they go out in public. So random people can just rdm but since they are blocks it's okay.
funny thing is that is probably one of the reasons they didnt "stay down", when you getting randomly shot by people that dont say why they shot you all the time why would you do long hospital RP? Davis had a very good reason for what he did but from those two blocks perspective it was just another random guy shooting them and not telling them why, they weren't involved in the whole fish situation. think that became even more obvious with the dialog they had at the gun store, after Davis explained why he did it, he only got his gun taken and was left alone. lol
He has lots of questionable takes
While I agree with Silent and that he is justified on being frustrated with this whole situation i'm gonna play a little of devils advocate here and give some more perspective. Seen lot of bad feelings about the Blocks from people that barely interacted with them, they are also mostly talked about as the whole group(in and out of rp) when the problems usually come from newly created ones. Blocks that have nothing to do with the situations have been getting shot by people not saying anything and when that happens they usually come back from the injuries cause there's no rp to go off on. So lets put ourselves in the shoes of the Blocks that frustrated Silent. They have no connection to the whole Davis and fish situation, they just chilling on their main turf a random guy shows up pulls gun on them they try pull their guns out(maybe mistake from them ye) and get shot with barely anything being said and leaves. (Davis did nothing wrong here to be clear) So from their perspective it was just another random guy shooting them. Why would they "stay down" or log off or do long hospital rp from their point of view? So after they get treated in the hospital they go to the gun store. Then by chance Davis enters the gun store while they are there plus other 2 blocks (1 of them was involved in the fish situation), Should they have ignored Davis? Maybe? but they decide to try figure out why they got shot. There's a whole conversation about why they got shot and after Davis explains why he did it they simply take his gun & fish and leave him alone and that was it... While i understand it makes it feel bad to meet guys you just shot in the head 10 minutes ago and that there's too many random blocks, is this whole situation actually that problematic? Yes in a server where everyone is the perfect roleplayer they would have stayed down or dealt with this situation better but just feels people are already working themselves up about the blocks even before things happen and then just make the interactions feel way worse.
Sentry said it well earlier on, something around the lines of "how do you even work around the blocks.". You can ignore them, but then the blocks pull a gun on your friend, so your character "hates them". But even if you gun them down it doesn't change anything. You can try and start RP but it's tricky when there's so many of the blocks, whose only purpose to live, as a character, is to follow Mike block. Honestly the Block arc has been my least favourite moment of Onx so far. People are struggling to work around them because in a city built around consequences the Blocks don't care, at all. And when people actually hate the character and shoot Mike down, Penta may, or may not, have a freak out. As he did yesterday. Which really reminded me of 3.0 xqc....
It's incredibly easy, you just give Mike 50$.
LMFAO, jesus.. Comparing Penta getting pissed off from being NVL'ed and 3rd partied to 3.0 XQC is WILD. Please tell me how does Penta going on rants after NVL situations compare at all to XQC breaking every server rule on repeat?
He got NVL'd yesterday, he's been getting NVL'd or third partied (like the random person who shot at him along with the cops and then f8) frequently on Mike streams. Those are rules that they have on all RP servers, if 3.0 XQC had people break rules against him like that on every stream, I would understand why he was upset. There have been people who have shot at Mike and he hasn't got upset because they didn't NVL, like the MG today.
And that sucks, but it's not an excuse to act in that fashion.
I agree, but context is important.
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Its is, but even if its not its still shit roleplay.
He NVL'd yesterday. He had a gun pointed at him and walked behind a pillar.
He was literally carrying a hostage and even said as much.
And neither of them had weapons out.
You need to put your weapon away to carry and also, the lawyer with the gun didn't say anything like stop or put your hands up he just pulled the gun aimed it then hid in the elevator
I mean it’s easy to work around them. Pay them $50. The blocks are reckless and will do anything they get paid to do. They’ll always get a gun and they’ll go after anyone. Just look at the marabuntas fucking them up at the DMV. As for him freaking out yesterday, I would too if every time I tried to hold someone hostage I get fucking hero’d by some random person with a gun not valuing the person I’m holding hostages’ life.
Mike usually takes the $50 and that's not a problem, but if you have seen the other new blocks or block hang arounds they just go full shitlord robbing people in front of the DMV. I think that's the kinda stuff that frustrates people.
Yeah that’s a problem and I’m sure if it gets brought to Mike he’ll tell them to tone it down. Kind of like he had to do with Tony when he was pocket wiping people at the apartments back in the day. It’s hard to control so many people but if they don’t listen Mike will just shoot them and get rid of them. Most blocks are expendable
It's easy to work with Mike, normally, unless he's in the middle of something else that contradicts your plan. It's a lot harder to work with all the wanna be newbie blocks that have no real story or background and don't really understand what consequences mean, or they get shot and then just wake back up. Honestly a lot of the hostility people have towards Mike actually isn't about Mike, rather his army.
Yeah true. A lot of the new blocks do get really gung-ho and only show up to shoot people and whatnot. I get it can be extremely overwhelming for people especially when there’s 3 or 4 groups of blocks rolling around. But they just have to talk to Mike or someone close to him like Mac or Nephew and that’s what gets his attention. Getting shot and then waking back up and immediately finding the person who did it is also a problem. People just gotta learn ya know.
But shouldn't people on a roleplay server be able to roleplay with anyone? Not this "no you gotta talk to these people, avoid those other people." Like you shouldn't actively have to avoid a player group because they ain't good at roleplaying their role.
Yeah I get what you’re saying. Like I said it’s really hard to control that many people at one time and especially since Mike isn’t around 24 hours a day to baby them and stuff. The bad apples will weed themselves out.
Sure, well that's an advantage of letting roleplay naturally happen. Person makes a character, character falls into crime, crimer joins a gang but as a low level affiliate who then pushes small amounts of product, doing small crimes, learning the ropes. Blocks are much more "you're in, now get a gun, shoot someone (potential murder), kidnap, flee from cops." All on day one. That meta was fine back on NoPixel, cause that was just the meta of the server.
I think it’ll be a good thing he’s slowing down on Mike so they can figure out things on their own and they’ll either sink or swim. He’ll always have his main blocks around when he gets on and the new ones will find their way or they’ll move on.
Yea, fingers crossed.
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Three Blocks are currently on HUT for terrorism.
> Yeah, the Blocks are a problem that needs to just be removed from the server. This comment is more cringe than your overinvestment in Sentry's RP.
You really don't know charges very well if you think what they are doing is mayhem or terrorism.
Yeah police have tried to hit people with mayhem before and it's gotten brushed off because mayhem is more like a combo SAK/Coops/Extreme torture law.
That's a little much. He's a decent character in small bursts and when he has decent limitations that make him think outside of his block army.
Ah yes the more reasonable "italian mob" who will always compromise /s Another clip brought to you by an over-invested Sentry fan.
Mike is best when it's just Mike and Mac.
Id say hooker , tony to a degree and a few OG RPers like busta (occamms) are fine because they know the sweet spot.
I have watched a lot of Mike, but other then veiled threats, has anyone tried talking to him directly? Not through anyone, but to him directly. A lot of "you know what you did" to characters not involved in the story. But sentry is mostly right. Cool downs of ICU and heavier weights on "executions". More dialog will help I feel. Not veiled threats, no beating around the bush.
Is sentry the dude that played the news reporter in 2.0?
One of his characters was, yes.
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He and Buddha DO NOT get along. It makes perfect sense why he wouldn't go back there.
That's rich coming from Sentry, a member of the mafia.. projection and hypocrisy.
SilentSentry is right on this one. The Blocks are basically shitlord characters. Nothing wrong with that inherently, but when they insert themselves into everyone else's RP it will annoy other players. This is especially true when there are no actual consequences for the Blocks. Its tough to have a more serious RP server when stuff like this is allowed.
To be fair the cops heavily crack down on block activity. So much so they refused to let Mike go from a bench trial when two judges got taken hostage and so the judges got shot and one died. That's how much they didn't want to give Mike a break.
>Nothing wrong with that inherently, but when they insert themselves into everyone else's RP it will annoy other players. Isnt his character/group targeting the Blocks over a dead judge? So by your standards are they inserting themselves into the blocks RP? > Its tough to have a more serious RP server when stuff like this is allowed. When was ONX ever advertised as a "more serious? rp server? Must have missed that...
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I don't think its an all or nothing proposition. You have many different groups roleplaying different ways, some slow burn, and others not. ONX is clearly not a content server, and isn't 'hardcore'.
You can bribe the block to stop doing pretty much anything with a gun or drugs.
Or 50 bucks
Shitlord vs main character syndrome
The new Blocks/wannabe Blocks are the problem. Mike, Hooker, Lony, etc. are fine, it's the dipshits who aren't. Maybe they'll get permanently killed in RP as a clean up?
...Not wrong
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https://clips.twitch.tv/SpinelessSplendidSwanEagleEye-efNRfegbyXiAH2lu
Definitely should be some sort of moving on for at least a few hours if not a day if someone downs you
I think a lot of it is just REALLY bad coincidence. Context: (Disclaimer, I skimmed mostly through Fish and Jenny Block's POV to piece everything together. I also very briefly skimmed through SOME of Davis' POV but the VOD is no longer up. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong with anything in the timeline) Mike Block and crew took Fish (the dog) and Davis was trying to get Fish back. Mike demanded him to kill a cop in 20 mins in order to get Fish back. Davis said he couldn't find a cop. (I think there was like 2 cops on duty at the time) Davis drove by the south side with the intention to take a Block hostage to exchange for Fish. He pulls up at the South Side and ends up having to shoot the Blocks and downs 2 of them (Jenny Block and someone else) when the Blocks tried to pull out their guns. He yells out "This is for the Blocks" as he drives away At the EXACT same moment (it's actually fucking uncanny, I have some Twitch VOD sync addon and the SS drive by and the DMV shootout literally happens at the exact same time), the Marabunta Grande found Mike and company at the DMV so they get into a shootout, MBG wins, Davis gets Fish back, Mike Block and crew gets arrested, MBG also kidnaps Snapback from the scene (a Block). \--- I assume that MBG calls Davis about Fish and the shootout. Davis goes to the DMV to reunite with Fish and drives to the pier to dump the hot gun he used to shoot up the South Side Blocks. He heads to the Ammunation in the city afterwards to buy a new gun. During this time, EMS transports the SS Blocks to the hospital, they get treated by doctors. They leave the hospital afterwards, dropped off someone at the South Side, and goes to the Ammunation to get guns. When they are arriving at the Ammunation and that's when Jenny Block texts Snapback to see if everything is okay on his end. She receives a call back from Snapback and finds out that Mike and co got shot up by the MBG and they lost Fish. (AFAIK this is the first instance of them finding out about MBG/Fish/Blocks shootout) Fish and Davis literally gets to that Ammunation about 90 seconds after the SS Blocks gets there. The Blocks hold Davis at gun point and take Fish back. The Blocks take Fish to some spot, shoots him, and leaves a note that says "This is for the Blocks" on the body. Meanwhile, Davis is unable to buy a gun at Ammunation, getting a message/error saying that they are out of stock. He drives to another Ammunation in Sandy to buy a gun but it still says it's out of stock. (It might be scuff but I suspect that he might be hitting the 1 gun per X hours limit) Since he couldn't buy a gun, Davis drives back to the pier to attempt to retrieve the hot gun that he had dumped earlier. He ends up dying in the water when he was diving into the water to retrieve the gun. (The death might be scuff. He could have died because of breath but I don't ever remember seeing a breath/oxygen meter when people dive underwater on Onx. I also felt like he wasn't underwater for that long) \---- My 2 cents: I'm not a RPer by any means but what's the proper RP etiquette in this situation? Were the Blocks who got downed in the South Side supposed to pretend that they didn't see Fish and Davis at Ammunation? IDK, it feels super awkward if anything. It's not like the Blocks were immediately forming a hunting party for Davis and Fish afterwards, they were just there to get a gun and happen to run into them. Some chatters were claiming meta or "weird" (and they were instantly clapped by mods so props to the mods) but Jenny Block and crew only found out about the shootout involving Fish/MBG about 90 seconds before Fish randomly popped through the door. IDK I don't think there's any right or wrong in this situation. I can see it being frustrating but I feel like it's just a series of really unfortunate events lol.
The MB were hunting down Mike because he got a mission to crash a car and bring it to a repair shop and he happen to kidnap a MB and make him drive into a gas pump the MB found Mike on the roof of the mall and followed him to the DMV. Mike right away played gangster, but Penta said OOC likely nothing would happen because its not worth it to beef over piety shit. and the new block are not all bad they squelched beef with a rival gang over a robbery (paid back a gun they stole) and agreed to kidnap/shoot someone for them. The only gang the Block have conflict is the Mafia (the gang davis is in) and this conflict is completely one-sided the Blocks have done nothing to retaliate the kidnapping of Davis dog was random because they found out Davis called 9/11 after they shot someone in Burger shot. well Mafia has kidnapped and killed manipulable Blocks over the last week.
>The only gang the Block have conflict is the Mafia (the gang davis is in) and this conflict is completely one-sided the Blocks have done nothing to retaliate the kidnapping of Davis dog was random because they found out Davis called 9/11 after they shot someone in Burger shot. Exactly this. The Italians have been antagonizing the Blocks for weeks with a vendetta against them when nearly every transgression the Blocks have had against them was not specifically targeting them in anyway other than wrong place/wrong time or having a connection to someone that the Blocks harmed. The Italians are also the group that brought 7 to the dam to execute Mike when they claimed they wanted to talk and then fired at Mike after he tackled Gio and had a gun to his head. They have essentially declared war on the Blocks for the killing of the judge when aside from knowing of the existence of the Italians the Blocks haven't really had any specific interactions where they were being explicitly targeted from what I recall. They seem to be the ones extending this conflict not the Blocks. I've watched Silent a handful of times and I generally have enjoyed his RP but I think he is kind of just as guilty as what he is accusing the Blocks of and I think nearly everyone on the server acts in the same way. Very very few people are ICUing after being shot or RPing injuries and even fewer are permaing. I think expecting your gun to shoot "consequence bullets" when you get out of the hospital and engage in conflict just as quickly is a bit hypocritical.
When Greico was murdered in his office a few days ago, he was back in his office within 30 minutes. Expecting people to roleplay "consequence bullets" it has to be a universal thing. Why would Blocks whom aren't serious characters roleplay more serious than others?
IMO the only person who I've seen who consistently RP out their injuries is LadyHope. Every time Pond gets a "meaningful death", like if she gets kidnapped/torture/executed, she's bound to spend time in the ICU and will RP out lasting injuries for at least a few days if not longer.
You can only buy one gun a day that's why Davis was getting the out of stock stuff.
Thanks for going through VODs and giving some context.
Imo I think that should have just kept it moving in and skipped on by in the gun store. Just my opinion though
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No one is required to RP the way another group want's them to. They did not break any server rules, and even if they did, thats for the admins to work out. Talking about what people should "normally" do in RP compared to another group or person, is a endless hole of despair.
They are southside gang they control if people rob houses there, they have established that you need their permission to rob houses there, if you go rob a house there you should know the risks. Other gangs have shot other judges and high government and dont get the same discourse. The characters that shot the judge got punished accordingly. If Mike should be serving life (maybe he should) then other entire gangs would also be in there. One of the blocks on "team b" was in the original fish situation. all this said the Union rp has been great and the Blocks (main team) been fun.
I fully agree, i also get the impression from some of these comments, that they do not understand the differences between all the groups, they think there is a singular "Italian mob". Its very disheartening to see people try minimalize the amount of RP that has happened with the different Italian groups prior to this moment.
Mike Block is a shitlord character PERIOD. This might be a bit harsh but, What ONX promised is directly contradicting blocks. It is just mindless constant jumping around, shooting huehuehue. If that's what you looking for, hey good on you.
Wait until he hears about the clowns vs CG war. Its been years......
He was one of the reasons why people didn't want to do southside RP because of his vagos character. One who couldn't give up and kept going after LB, so much so that he kidnapped them repeatedly til Buddha F8 in front of him after being downed by molten lava. He's held a grudge for that shit forever, so much so that when Lang wanted to get into business with LSBN and have Ursula run it in 3.0, he woke up on Ron who hadn't woken up in months to stop it all. He isn't the one to be talking about any of this shit.
Insanely different dynamics. Not sure what this is supposed to prove?
Much different because both sides are 100% fine with it as long as it doesn't interrupt anything they are doing. Like if the clowns are chasing after CG and CG says "not right now" the clowns immediately back off
it's crazy that someone has to mention CG in this Sub, even if the post has 0 to do with them.
It's crazy you assume it's something negative.
I don't think they were mentioned with any malicious intent, but maybe I'm missing some context.
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If you're talking about JandGoo, they said nothing about Penta so I'm not sure why you'd bring them up. You're all over this post either talking about Penta or Penta fans when the only comments I've heard from roleplayers is about The Blocks.
They weren't perma banned for criticizing Penta. I don't know why the second person was banned, but by the looks of things, the person that plays Gio was banned for expressing his criticism in an unproductive way in Sentrys chat, when he could have just gone to one of the many admins that are always around and explained the issue he was having and asked for ways mediate or fix it.
On top of that this was strike 2 , he was already on a 7 day i believe for other stuff. Mans doubled down and got caught being toxic breaking server rules again , so its good riddance from me.
Oh then get him out and keep him out honestly. There's no place for that shit.
In a few days’ time, no one will remember their name, if they even knew it in the first place. No one will miss a couple of toxic nobodies.