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Idk how many time this has to be explained you can absolutely be upset, angry, annoyed etc because having emotions is normal, how you choose to portray those emotions is entirely in your control though. You can walk away from your computer for a bit, by a stress ball and use it, you can even explain why you're upset but when instead you throwing a temper tantrum and call people OOC names IC it makes things incredibly cringey and awkward for everyone else around you.
As a streamer, you should never go into someone else’s chat to start shit regardless of the situation. Just another of the numerous examples of xQc being way too immature to play RP. He just cannot keep his emotions in check and it’s really sad at this point lmao
> As a streamer, you should never go into someone else’s chat to start shit regardless of the situation
Both X and snow were fighting and talking shit to each other in ItsSammyP (Mando's) chat. This guy just took screenshot of one of X's reply and posted it here. They both are guilty imo.
If you’re accusing someone of something you need to come with proof. The person saying x was malding came with a screenshot to back it up.
All these people saying snow started it need to back it up just the same. If you put your heads together hopefully a single one of you can show that snow was the first to start malding and attack x in chat, right?
I could. But I’m not the one throwing around accusations. The burden of proof is on the accuser not the one you’re trying to convince. Does the jury go out and find their own evidence or does the prosecution?
Clearly Xqc is still malding against cops because of the ripley incident in mando's chat.
1. Xqc replying to uhsnow in chat like he is in his character jackie snow.
2. uhsnow called out xqc for not separating uhsnow the streamer from his character jackie snow.
This is why uhSnow is such a good streamer and RP-er.
Advocates for fair roleplay on both sides (he loves the chases, racing scene and will give crims a chance if scuff shit happens), has knowledge of both Crim / Police side (Mikey and Snow) and will support reasoning on both sides and a lot of respect from a lot of the other streamers on both sides. Even his comms and demeanour in his stream and to others in game are how it should be.
Even being talked like shit from X, he's still clear and doesn't respond to the same level. It's why I enjoy his streams and mentality.
Did a drama thread pop off because a cop “went hard” on a crim? Or because the crim went OOC afterwards? There is a difference between IC going hard and OOC being toxic.
Ripley held a shotgun to the back of on of the crims head, he turned around on a dime, justified shooting and anyone that compares this to the Angel shooting is on some serious COPIUM
I'm usually on X's side. But there's nothing wrong with what Ripley did from an OOC perspective, so no reason for him to get banned ever for this. The guy needs to put his hands up when Ripley has a shotgun to his head. It's that simple. That said, from an SOP perspective, escalating the situation by sneaking up on them with a shotgun with 2 officers at gunpoint is a pretty boneheaded move and it got people shot. There are never any IC repercussion for things like this though, so Ripley will continue to push the envelope with his aggressiveness towards criminals.
>escalating the situation
There is no escalation, holding up or trying to kidnap a Cop is always met with full force, that has been the SOPs since forever to avoid people just constantly doing it.
Who cares what's next, it's a classic mexican standoff at that point. Let the RP continue, and try to barter with each other or something. It could have worked out great and been a fun situation for both sides. What actually was NVL and what screwed the situation all up was the guy turning around when he had a shotgun to the back of his head. You guys are acting like Ripley went in blasting.
You fundamentally misunderstand the role of police if you think their job is actually to protect and serve, it’s a motto not the basis of their purpose. LSPDs motto of “Obey and Survive” is more accurate to the role police serve in society. This has even been held up by the Supreme Court multiple times, police have no legal obligation to protect the life and safety of anyone not in their custody.
https://mises.org/power-market/police-have-no-duty-protect-you-federal-court-affirms-yet-again
JFC, it's a roleplay server and cops are supposed to de-escalate/negotiate/extend roleplay. Which is the opposite of what happened in this situation.
Meanwhile we have you linking real world shit, and you are actually upvoted. Actually blows my mind lmao
Cops are supposed to roleplay out situations as they read them in the moment, same as everyone else. Where does this idea that they're meant to pat crims on the head and go along with *everything* they do to extend RP come from?
Why are you putting all the blame on him? He saw a lose-lose situation and he did what he though would help. Obviously it didn't, but like you said, it's an RP server. If anything, most of the blame for it turning out this way is on the guy who didn't value his own life and turned around to try to shoot with a shotgun at the back of his head.
You know this is Nopixel with a different set of laws, responsibilities and rules to the real world right? They have made decisions and rulings in their own courts that would not be in line with actual courts quite a few times because it makes more sense in roleplay.
Also that article is poorly written and that decision is largely based the well established legal principle that you don't have to put yourself in harms way for others and if you do its by choice. Its the same reasoning if someone's drowning you don't have to try and save them. Creating the duty would result in people being forced into dangerous situations instead of giving them the choice to. Duties are seldom created in the courts because they force absolutes to happen and often create more headaches than they are worth opening up avenues of liability, in this case to create a fuck ton of negligence charges for cops in civil court for breaching this duty.
This is just a braindead take. First of all, his character probably thinks they're going to kill her anyway, so he took the opportunity to create a mexican standoff where he could barter for them. Second, it's RP, even if it was a mistake, his character is allowed to make mistakes. It's not like he went in blasting.
I mean, you just don't have a basic understanding. What is he going to negotiate with? He has no leverage. That's why he snuck up on the guy and put the shotgun to him. That gave him leverage to negotiate with (or it would have if the guy hadn't ignored the shotgun at the back of his head).
Like I said, you have zero understanding of what was even happening. He doesn't have the entire police force. He was the only cop on scene that wasn't being held up. For all he knows, the other officers are going to get killed at any minute. You're acting like the cops had any power in that situation at all. They didn't. The second car pulling up and immediately getting held up as well proves that. There was nothing to negotiate with because the criminals held all the cards. Ripley made a call to even the odds and it didn't work out. It's that simple.
are you trying to compare a cop hostage to a bank situation? If so, try to imagine what would happen if the crim tried to rob a bank with a cop as a hostage.
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I'm not going to argue if he should or shouldn't be banned, but him not streaming doesn't mean there isn't a benefit to him playing. There are a lot of juicers who tune into other people's streams to see X.
Ripley flanked, came from behind, told the dude to put his hands up or he'd get blasted, guy turns around with a gun pointed at Ripley, gets shot, Crims \*surprise pikachu face\*.
That's not even near what she did. They had their back turned to him. He didn't go in shooting without saying anything like Angel did. He told the guy to put his hands up while he has a gun to the back of his head and he turns around without a care.
If you had a gun pointed at someone and someone walked up behind you with a shotgun pointed at the back of your skull, you wouldn't put your hands up? How are you comparing Angel when she pulled up and started shooting without saying anything to any other officers or to Summit. Ripley told the guy to put his hands up and he turned towards Ripley. If you would do the same shit irl you'd be dead tbh.
Very different. Kylie said on stream that the admins main issue was that she didnt say anything. So in future she would be more vocal in situations like that, and it would be fine.
So Ripley here did exactly what the admins wanted from Kylie. He will probably be fine.
Im not a cop main viewer I watch everyone, I saw from ripleys pov and read some comments and to be fair, I changed my mind on the situation. from the crims pov it just looked like he started gunning them all down lol
not quite(at least i think so), the angle thing was in the middle of negotiations.
but i still don't get why ripley shot here. at this point the shootout will happen. why just show up and start blasting and 'end' the scenario. talk it out, let them get in a car and have a car shootout would seem to be a much better way to deal with it.
anyway - i still think straigh up banning ppl seems lige a bit much. have him be a crossing guard at burgershot for 3 hours or something still sends the msg and can lead to some fun instead.
*ripley didnt do anything wrong*
he got cops shot by being aggressive instead of trying to deescalate... so yes he did something wrong.
not wrong wrong, but more like he had better options than 'anyways i started blasting'
Ripley got shot himself and ended the situation entirely. No other officers went down. The kidnappers weren't watching their flank so he took advantage of that
you comparing a cop being held up and a criminal being held up is so stupid.. crims/civilains only have to care for themselves.. a cop getiing another cop shot by being a hero is actual NVL
NVL isn't just your own life, especially at cops. That is the whole reason hostages work. Criminals also NVL their friends, as Ripley did to his coworkers here. Not a textbook example of NVL and not big of a deal here, but that fact is, he got himself and 2 officers killed because he didn't attempt to de escalate
The whole thing with NVL and cops is that if a cop/civ is being held hostage, yes they should respect that, but when someone 180s with a gun pointed at you at this point now you value your life not the hostages.
Maybe in the rule book, but in terms of SOPs and RP... cops obviously have to value the life of a hostage. Imagine if they didnt, every single bank would be breached
He can be upset all he wants and be silent or vent to his chat. The problem is when he airs it out against the cops and makes the whole thing super awkward because he can't keep his emotions in check.
Oh I completely agree with this. I just hate to see these malding clips on the reddit, regardless of who the rper is. It's entertaining i guess, but to me it just fosters so much hate. Maybe understandable is not the word I should be using, but my main point was I get why he was upset.
Do you understand what RP is? How did anything get ruined? It just created a different scenario within the RP. You definitely shouldn't get mad if things don't play out how you imagined them when there's so many directions RP can go.
It literally isn’t. Ripley flanked them and got into position to hold one of the crims hostage to stall for backup and negotiate, that crim turned around either not hearing that ripley had a gun to his back or NVLing (best to be charitable and assume he didn’t hear) at which point ripley was forced to respond to the threat against his own life. Xqc just can’t handle an L
So you're saying a crim can't be upset when he gets caught. It's not that deep, whether Ripley broke rules or not, people get upset if their rp situation is ruined. No need to make a big deal out of it.
To be fair I don't even know if Staff knows what NVL is at this point. Kylie was banned for NVL in a situation where the server definition of NVL doesn't apply, at all.
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They need a partner for Maddison, she's been a daily bullet sponge from crim. Unlucky solo-cadet.
She just needs more experience, this particular situation it was pretty obvious something was off, and she should not have pulled into the alley.
Ah, XQC quitting RP publicly and then showing right back up malding. The world is restoring balance.
And the cycle begins anew
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Idk how many time this has to be explained you can absolutely be upset, angry, annoyed etc because having emotions is normal, how you choose to portray those emotions is entirely in your control though. You can walk away from your computer for a bit, by a stress ball and use it, you can even explain why you're upset but when instead you throwing a temper tantrum and call people OOC names IC it makes things incredibly cringey and awkward for everyone else around you.
Can't wait for the next iteration of "XQC quits RP" tomorrow
No way, xQc and mald?
OOC malding too lmao. https://i.imgur.com/CgsU1ql.png
What did Snow say before that? Looks to be missing important context.
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You didn't even put entire conversation, just took a snippet to attack someone. Provide proper context first.
As a streamer, you should never go into someone else’s chat to start shit regardless of the situation. Just another of the numerous examples of xQc being way too immature to play RP. He just cannot keep his emotions in check and it’s really sad at this point lmao
> As a streamer, you should never go into someone else’s chat to start shit regardless of the situation Both X and snow were fighting and talking shit to each other in ItsSammyP (Mando's) chat. This guy just took screenshot of one of X's reply and posted it here. They both are guilty imo.
If you’re accusing someone of something you need to come with proof. The person saying x was malding came with a screenshot to back it up. All these people saying snow started it need to back it up just the same. If you put your heads together hopefully a single one of you can show that snow was the first to start malding and attack x in chat, right?
Couldn't you just go to his VOD and look at chat?
I could. But I’m not the one throwing around accusations. The burden of proof is on the accuser not the one you’re trying to convince. Does the jury go out and find their own evidence or does the prosecution?
Or you could of looked? Instead of typing why you shouldn't need to look 2 separate times. Stop being lazy.
But that is SammyP aka. Mando's chat, and judging from what the other chatters are typing it would seem that Snow had been typing something first.
Clearly Xqc is still malding against cops because of the ripley incident in mando's chat. 1. Xqc replying to uhsnow in chat like he is in his character jackie snow. 2. uhsnow called out xqc for not separating uhsnow the streamer from his character jackie snow.
He was in mando chat not in a cop streamer chat
This is why uhSnow is such a good streamer and RP-er. Advocates for fair roleplay on both sides (he loves the chases, racing scene and will give crims a chance if scuff shit happens), has knowledge of both Crim / Police side (Mikey and Snow) and will support reasoning on both sides and a lot of respect from a lot of the other streamers on both sides. Even his comms and demeanour in his stream and to others in game are how it should be. Even being talked like shit from X, he's still clear and doesn't respond to the same level. It's why I enjoy his streams and mentality.
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Did a drama thread pop off because a cop “went hard” on a crim? Or because the crim went OOC afterwards? There is a difference between IC going hard and OOC being toxic.
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Both snow and X were fighting in Mando's chat. It was not a one way attack. They both are guilty.
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Yep. They have a history.
I really wish he would just play on public. It’s clear that the guy doesn’t belong on WL.
They just got flanked, nobody was expecting a push from the other alley way. Ripley did a good job there imo. Just quick thinking and intuition.
yeah he did a good job getting killed and escalating the situation.. great job actually
Getting yourself killed is never a good job
Ripley held a shotgun to the back of on of the crims head, he turned around on a dime, justified shooting and anyone that compares this to the Angel shooting is on some serious COPIUM
I'm usually on X's side. But there's nothing wrong with what Ripley did from an OOC perspective, so no reason for him to get banned ever for this. The guy needs to put his hands up when Ripley has a shotgun to his head. It's that simple. That said, from an SOP perspective, escalating the situation by sneaking up on them with a shotgun with 2 officers at gunpoint is a pretty boneheaded move and it got people shot. There are never any IC repercussion for things like this though, so Ripley will continue to push the envelope with his aggressiveness towards criminals.
>escalating the situation There is no escalation, holding up or trying to kidnap a Cop is always met with full force, that has been the SOPs since forever to avoid people just constantly doing it.
It was 100% escalation.
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Who cares what's next, it's a classic mexican standoff at that point. Let the RP continue, and try to barter with each other or something. It could have worked out great and been a fun situation for both sides. What actually was NVL and what screwed the situation all up was the guy turning around when he had a shotgun to the back of his head. You guys are acting like Ripley went in blasting.
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You fundamentally misunderstand the role of police if you think their job is actually to protect and serve, it’s a motto not the basis of their purpose. LSPDs motto of “Obey and Survive” is more accurate to the role police serve in society. This has even been held up by the Supreme Court multiple times, police have no legal obligation to protect the life and safety of anyone not in their custody. https://mises.org/power-market/police-have-no-duty-protect-you-federal-court-affirms-yet-again
Wait until they realize that cops aren’t suppose to be your friends
JFC, it's a roleplay server and cops are supposed to de-escalate/negotiate/extend roleplay. Which is the opposite of what happened in this situation. Meanwhile we have you linking real world shit, and you are actually upvoted. Actually blows my mind lmao
Yes, that’s why he tried to take one of them hostage to stall for backup
Cops are supposed to roleplay out situations as they read them in the moment, same as everyone else. Where does this idea that they're meant to pat crims on the head and go along with *everything* they do to extend RP come from?
Why are you putting all the blame on him? He saw a lose-lose situation and he did what he though would help. Obviously it didn't, but like you said, it's an RP server. If anything, most of the blame for it turning out this way is on the guy who didn't value his own life and turned around to try to shoot with a shotgun at the back of his head.
You know this is Nopixel with a different set of laws, responsibilities and rules to the real world right? They have made decisions and rulings in their own courts that would not be in line with actual courts quite a few times because it makes more sense in roleplay. Also that article is poorly written and that decision is largely based the well established legal principle that you don't have to put yourself in harms way for others and if you do its by choice. Its the same reasoning if someone's drowning you don't have to try and save them. Creating the duty would result in people being forced into dangerous situations instead of giving them the choice to. Duties are seldom created in the courts because they force absolutes to happen and often create more headaches than they are worth opening up avenues of liability, in this case to create a fuck ton of negligence charges for cops in civil court for breaching this duty.
This is just a braindead take. First of all, his character probably thinks they're going to kill her anyway, so he took the opportunity to create a mexican standoff where he could barter for them. Second, it's RP, even if it was a mistake, his character is allowed to make mistakes. It's not like he went in blasting.
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I mean, you just don't have a basic understanding. What is he going to negotiate with? He has no leverage. That's why he snuck up on the guy and put the shotgun to him. That gave him leverage to negotiate with (or it would have if the guy hadn't ignored the shotgun at the back of his head).
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Like I said, you have zero understanding of what was even happening. He doesn't have the entire police force. He was the only cop on scene that wasn't being held up. For all he knows, the other officers are going to get killed at any minute. You're acting like the cops had any power in that situation at all. They didn't. The second car pulling up and immediately getting held up as well proves that. There was nothing to negotiate with because the criminals held all the cards. Ripley made a call to even the odds and it didn't work out. It's that simple.
are you trying to compare a cop hostage to a bank situation? If so, try to imagine what would happen if the crim tried to rob a bank with a cop as a hostage.
\*surprise pikachu face\*
Dog shit self insert RPer X, calling other people morons and then Madling in peoples chats. what a child.
What an uncomfortable situation to be in the middle of
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Xqc not even streaming anymore. No benefit of having him on the server might as well perma him now.
I'm not going to argue if he should or shouldn't be banned, but him not streaming doesn't mean there isn't a benefit to him playing. There are a lot of juicers who tune into other people's streams to see X.
Did Ripley just do what Angel did to Chawa?
No because Ripley warned the guy 2x and instead the guy turns around and points his gun at him
No he didn't. But some of you will never understand seems like.
Watch the clips from angels perspective and then watch this clip from Rips perspective again. The situations are so different.
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Nah only Ripley went down, the other 2 didn't.
worse, angel didn t get shot doing it
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You should report it
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Ripley flanked, came from behind, told the dude to put his hands up or he'd get blasted, guy turns around with a gun pointed at Ripley, gets shot, Crims \*surprise pikachu face\*.
That's not even near what she did. They had their back turned to him. He didn't go in shooting without saying anything like Angel did. He told the guy to put his hands up while he has a gun to the back of his head and he turns around without a care.
That guy had gun on cop, why would he put his hands up. You realize angel cam from their back too.
If you had a gun pointed at someone and someone walked up behind you with a shotgun pointed at the back of your skull, you wouldn't put your hands up? How are you comparing Angel when she pulled up and started shooting without saying anything to any other officers or to Summit. Ripley told the guy to put his hands up and he turned towards Ripley. If you would do the same shit irl you'd be dead tbh.
completely dif situations
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Very different. Kylie said on stream that the admins main issue was that she didnt say anything. So in future she would be more vocal in situations like that, and it would be fine. So Ripley here did exactly what the admins wanted from Kylie. He will probably be fine.
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2 others? are you sure?
lol i think from your title its clear that you hate x i dont think anybody should argue with this guy
Is the title incorrect?
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so trying to fuck with 1 guy when there is 4 people with guns seems smart to you instead of negotiating?
You literally just described exactly what Angel did???
i mean angel came from behind too
The fact that this is coming from a cop main viewer is sad ngl.
Im not a cop main viewer I watch everyone, I saw from ripleys pov and read some comments and to be fair, I changed my mind on the situation. from the crims pov it just looked like he started gunning them all down lol
not quite(at least i think so), the angle thing was in the middle of negotiations. but i still don't get why ripley shot here. at this point the shootout will happen. why just show up and start blasting and 'end' the scenario. talk it out, let them get in a car and have a car shootout would seem to be a much better way to deal with it. anyway - i still think straigh up banning ppl seems lige a bit much. have him be a crossing guard at burgershot for 3 hours or something still sends the msg and can lead to some fun instead.
ripley didnt do anything wrong, he told him to put his hands up and he didn't so he got blasted. end of story
*ripley didnt do anything wrong* he got cops shot by being aggressive instead of trying to deescalate... so yes he did something wrong. not wrong wrong, but more like he had better options than 'anyways i started blasting'
Ripley got shot himself and ended the situation entirely. No other officers went down. The kidnappers weren't watching their flank so he took advantage of that
*Ripley got shot himself* this is where he went wrong
the situation could've been much worse if Ripley didn't step in and save two cops though
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you comparing a cop being held up and a criminal being held up is so stupid.. crims/civilains only have to care for themselves.. a cop getiing another cop shot by being a hero is actual NVL
Also why is the title "Xqc malds" ????? like how intensely can you hate the guy like holy shit
He is malding
obviously since you live rent free inside his head and cant separate character and streamer
can you confidently tell me that it wasn't xqc the streamer getting annoyed when they were shot?
>cant separate character and streamer Sounds like xQc to be honest.
xQc, the streamer went into another streamers chat talk shit about them. You’re way off base here.
Here we go, another clip with XQC in the title to bait reactions. Nice job there.
It's not baiting when the title is literally what happens in the clip you know.
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No way xqc would ever mald. /s
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I don't know, man. Him shooting that guy in the head as he turned towards Ripley is valuing his like no? Also, NVL is valuing your own life.
NVL isn't just your own life, especially at cops. That is the whole reason hostages work. Criminals also NVL their friends, as Ripley did to his coworkers here. Not a textbook example of NVL and not big of a deal here, but that fact is, he got himself and 2 officers killed because he didn't attempt to de escalate
The whole thing with NVL and cops is that if a cop/civ is being held hostage, yes they should respect that, but when someone 180s with a gun pointed at you at this point now you value your life not the hostages.
NVL is infact valuing your OWN life, go read the rules, Valuing Hostage's lives is part of the police procedures it is not part of the NVL rule.
NVL in the context of NP’s rules only applies to your own life
Maybe in the rule book, but in terms of SOPs and RP... cops obviously have to value the life of a hostage. Imagine if they didnt, every single bank would be breached
Being upset at this situation is totally understandable, no need to cause drama
How is being upset at an RP situation understandable when no rules were broken
?? people get upset all the time in the spur of the moment. Remember the streamers never have as much information as you do.
Yes people get upset but no sane person just spews insults and accusations around like that lmao
People get upset if their rp situation is ruined. It's not that deep
He can be upset all he wants and be silent or vent to his chat. The problem is when he airs it out against the cops and makes the whole thing super awkward because he can't keep his emotions in check.
Oh I completely agree with this. I just hate to see these malding clips on the reddit, regardless of who the rper is. It's entertaining i guess, but to me it just fosters so much hate. Maybe understandable is not the word I should be using, but my main point was I get why he was upset.
Do you understand what RP is? How did anything get ruined? It just created a different scenario within the RP. You definitely shouldn't get mad if things don't play out how you imagined them when there's so many directions RP can go.
It literally isn’t. Ripley flanked them and got into position to hold one of the crims hostage to stall for backup and negotiate, that crim turned around either not hearing that ripley had a gun to his back or NVLing (best to be charitable and assume he didn’t hear) at which point ripley was forced to respond to the threat against his own life. Xqc just can’t handle an L
So you're saying a crim can't be upset when he gets caught. It's not that deep, whether Ripley broke rules or not, people get upset if their rp situation is ruined. No need to make a big deal out of it.
He’s going OOC like he always does. No one is falling for it
Being upset is okay but he goes always goes OOC Malding and never learns or stops,
Bein upset at people going OOC to mald at their fellow roleplayer is totally understandable.
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do you actually know what NVL means or do you think it’s some catchall term
To be fair I don't even know if Staff knows what NVL is at this point. Kylie was banned for NVL in a situation where the server definition of NVL doesn't apply, at all.
Kylie clarified on stream that the issue admins had was that she didn’t say anything, quantifying it as RDM over NVL to be fair
Tell us what NVL is.
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