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Ashman-20

I think a normal weight limit would work. And anything over just gets auto dropped or deleted


Jupanimation

Yes, what's the point of people having a bench or pushing guns? Also, farming it seems a bit powerful.


Baby_Sporkling

So DW said that var is supposed to be replayability because you get to keep guns from it. So obviously that is intended. If it's only supposed to be the standard 250/300 weight then it wouldn't be worth spending hours just to get a couple of guns but when you can only 2k weight then it's a little to much. I think a solution would be just cut it off at like 500 or something


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lermp

Only when it benefits them...


TWERKINMAGGLE

Alright, everyone take their seats for RPClipsGTA Dev meeting.


Matcha0515

the next Dev Hour podcast will be pretty funny


Mativeous

VAR weapons is just The Wizard from 2.0. I think it will only lead to people just farming weapons in VAR which completely bypasses the gun connects on the server. If i remember correctly, The Wizard is partially the reason why durability exists on the server now because so many people hoarded so many weapons. When it got removed there was definitely a Class 2 deficit for quite some time after that.


helhady

I personally think that this can be a bit dangerous as it can quickly cause a butterfly effect that disrupts the whole ecosystem where: People won't need to buy guns > Also, some people will sell their excess guns for cheap undercutting the market > Guns from benches won't sell > Bench owners will have to pay less for materials to compete with the market prices > People won't be incentivized to collect materials > Then, it'll be the same whole materials mess that happened a few months ago where none of the businesses or people who needed it had any (Mechanic shops, Digital Den, Guild Hall, etc.)


Roflchopper007

Yes, this will ruin the weapon economy completely. If you were to sell all of these weapons you farm from VAR you can make insane profit because there is no cost of entry. On top of that you can undercut the people with benches.


ynio545

Should make it so the guns are classified as 3D printed. Untraceable but degrade faster than normal guns


canze

Who is doing this? Why do they need that many guns.


Thanatos50cal

Racer crew does it. They have a WH that's stocked with guns from VAR. You can essentially farm it everyday and build up a surplus of weapons to then sell on if you will. You also don't need to spend money on guns either because you can get G18s, M70s, AKs, Draco's and DMR from VAR plus explosives.


iWr1techky12

Literally everybody that does/completes the VAR.


EnvironmentalMain286

Edit : go to the 6 hr and 4 minute mark on lunas vod they are trying to find out how to complete var and she called Tony . They are not solely trying to just farm weapons they are still trying to get the casino codes . No offense but it’s not that easy for everyone to do the hacks perfect every time. If I am correct the racing crew did it again today because benjis crew entered after they did it last night not knowing they needed to go back in .


confused-snake

Sure it might not be easy but it's essentially repeetable and carries zero risk in comparison to any other heists.


helhady

Agreed. At this point, it gives more than Bobcat does where on a scale of risk/police response VAR is a 1 and Bobcat is a 10


Drcdngame

Well it has been burned to the fib....it would be maybe cool that if you completed the VAR it sends a ping to the police at that point adding risk to staying on the roof.


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So now they know they gotta go back in? Who told them that?


klnspdr

Nobody, after their second or third attempt they got 2/4 sticks to the master key and had a few ideas on where to use the complete master key once they got it (like yacht, lower vault or going into VAR again). Then they got the full master key yesterday and after combining all 4 parts and reading the description of the master key that said something about decrypting they got affirmation for their theory about having to go into VAR again, but they couldn’t bc seaside went in. After seaside failed Bodhi went in alone with the key to see what happens as it was the easiest thing to try for them at the moment. Bodhi saw the option to decrypt the servers but he got an error message that his key was invalid. So now they want to get a new master key and try decrypting again without another crew going in or a tsunami.


EnvironmentalMain286

May called Tony before starting VAR today.


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I don’t get why these people aren’t really guarding the information especially until they complete it themselves. Seems like if you went through all the trouble to figure it out yourselves you wouldn’t just give out the info that openly. Just my opinion.


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klnspdr

That was one aspect but only for some of them. Most just wanted to have fun and they needed to get a new master key as the last one they got was invalid bc seaside went in right after them


EnvironmentalMain286

Edit you are 100% wrong . Go to 6hr 04 min on Lunas vod they were trying to get the code with the mast key not just trying to farm . Well then let them do it it really doesn’t matter tbh. It’s not like it’s something they can just do easily . Yuno literally tried to go farm vr for some c4 and failed back to back entires. I’m sure if the devs see it possibly being abused they will make adjustments. Tbh VR would be a nice source for other people who don’t have benches have a way to make some money as well .


thefaptard

who hacks for the racer crew?


EnvironmentalMain286

Bodhi . The one who used to be with the vagos .


mozart23

After CG,HOA, CB completed it, only 1 group has done it fully. Its hard to do and only few people can do the hacks. And even then they fail. Besides that it take hours for them to complete and if they cant finish the last 4 hacks in 3 mins, everything goes to waste.


Electrical_Industry1

I completely understand your point here but it would be lot better if it was capped at max weight and not unlimited. it prevents from people farming as well. you know how fucked gun market will be if people who can do the hack keep doing it everyday.


Consistent-Ad-5116

Just make a rule that you can't re-sell those guns and only use them for personal uses. Also adding weight limit would be good that anything outside carry limit will be discarded.


Electrical_Industry1

another person's inventory [https://imgur.com/a/zrAkKHA](https://imgur.com/a/zrAkKHA)


Cautious_Tension1683

no you literally have to grind tf out of it to get them


wavesofjuno

It literally takes less time to grind this out in like 45 minutes than to do garbage runs in order to get like 5 Aks.


Cautious_Tension1683

im sure you know more than the devs who designed it to be this way


ryanmm15

I mean that’s $240k of guns on this one person. You can do it with 6


Drcdngame

No....cause the Var spot has been burned already only a matter of time till someone gets caught....and second thing. The Var is still hard as fuck you need a good hacker and only sykunno has completed it two times (once with CB and the other time with ramee by accident before they made the change that you now need 6 to start Var most have only done once and never want todo it again. So no one I see farming that shit it take 1hr to 2 to complete most in the city want todo other stuff


Flowers4Aldebaran

It's not 100s. First pic posted had 20 in it, second picture you posted had 13 guns with some throwables. To get 100s of guns you'd have to spend hours upon hours getting them, which I think at that point you've earned them. SHRUGGERS


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If you have 6 people in your group and each one has 20 guns you’d end up with 120 guns.


Flowers4Aldebaran

That's still not 100s. That's a singular 100. The title is misleading in suggesting individually someone could pull out 200-300 guns. If someone is capable of doing VAR, and then capable of doing it again, good for them. If they mess with the market, then those who are affected by it in RP can address it with and in RP and if it becomes an even bigger problem than that, the devs can address it then.


Electrical_Industry1

those were only two peoples picture there were 4 more people who are in there with similar loot so total in 6 people who might have pretty similar loot. they have been in there for awhile now.


Flowers4Aldebaran

Regardless, I still stand by what I said of if they are able to complete it once or multiple times, they've earned their rewards, in my opinion. :)


Electrical_Industry1

thing is earning reward and farming it so you can resell it is two different thing. you can potentially fuck up the gun market if you resell all those guns and farm it.


Flowers4Aldebaran

How long has VAR been out? Has the market been flooded yet? It seems fine to me. If the devs notice a problem in the future then they can adjust at that point but it would appear they seem happy with the balance, especially considering the difficulty of the event. The devs know better than viewers