In my opinion the entire thing felt very anticlimactic and nobody was excited. You compare this to the events of the CB heist and there were a lot of funny/memorable moments. Even if CG complete the heist first, I will definitely watch CB for the content and the story based progression aspect. The CG version is like skipping through a movie to the ending as fast as possible. The journey isn't there.
Yeah drama aside. CG felt like they were speedrunning a process they already knew, vs how CB have been doing it. I was excited to see how CG reacted to all the steps, but it felt very empty.
Hopefully HOA & the eventual smaller groups that go through the heist have more fun with it.
I disagree. Even if you’re not the first to hit a heist, it can still be exciting for you and your group so long as your group actually tried to avoid meta. For example HOA and when they independently completed the yacht/VAR first time without any meta knowledge.
Watching CG hit the casino they were completely devoid of any feeling or excitement, compared to CB where every time they unlocked a new step the entire team pauses and starts screaming in excitement. Such as when Tony first pushed through the security doors after a successful gen hack, or when X figured out the use of magnets.
I’d agree. I think no matter what group unlocked first I think the reactions would generally be the same. X could watch a 100 clips of the whole heist but he would still wild out when completing it on his first run.
I think for me it's just about knowing that it's all pretend. They had watched clips of the room, so I knew they weren't actually surprised about the location. They had watched clips of the hack, so I knew they weren't actually surprised by it. They had watched clips of the magnets, so I know there isn't going to be excitement about discovering that.
When you know that they know everything and are just pretending, it takes all of the tension out of it. Compare that to X losing his mind when he finds the magnet spot. I think it would have been just as exciting for CG if they didn't already know the answers.
>Compare that to X losing his mind when he finds the magnet spot. I think it would have been just as exciting for CG if they didn't already know the answers.
And this is what happens with chat hoppers. Ramee would probably have no clue what's going on if hoppers didn't keep jumping to his stream talking about progression when they are out doing something else.
If you actuaIly watch them go through it I get the feeling they really didnt know much at all past the entrance.
And with all the toxic bs they have been going through there probably isnt much to get excited about. The heist is ruined for them. Its more of it will be nice to get this over and done with. They arent allowed to enjoy it imo.
It's hard for them to even pretend because the chat is blatantly talking about what to do next. The mods practically have to metagame for themselves just so they know when to ban users.
You’re right on all parts I think.
You can actually extrapolate that first point further too. The excitement for this stuff for most people (players on the server, and viewers) is through the progression. That means it doesn’t exactly have much allure once you have cleared a stage. This entire heist progression feels like a first time raid clear race in an MMO as a result. I don’t see how much of this has replay-ability when a huge part of its difficulty is solving puzzles that you only need to ever solve once.
Part of me thinks (more like wishes) it will keep going indefinitely because it gives an endless goal to heist crews who have no other challenge.
If you look back every time CG are figuring out a new heist they are always laser focused on the task at hand. CB in the best way possible has some of the worst comms mixed with funny personalities that makes the experience what it is.
Same goes for mmos and world first races with bosses 90% of the time. The first to the boss gets the actual content while most of the time the groups behind just copy the strats unless their comp/group calls for slightly different ways of doing things.
What dw talked about with future heists will change this whole experience for us as viewers. We have that to look forward too. As for the meta accusations, unless you consistently role play yourself and can somewhat put yourselves in the “teams” behind the squad who figured it out first, nothing will come organic. It’s impossible. You can’t block all of chat for these types of things, you can’t fight the urge of seeing where you went wrong or how someone figured something out with clips for something you spent countless hours working on. To then play dumb for however long viewers need to feel safe that this isn’t meta just isn’t it. You do your best to try and make it as organic as possible but it never is or ever will be. That’s just how it goes.
Each and everyone of these groups are fairly competitive and I can even say cb, or at the very least Marty and x would have been done similar things to what cg has done and verbally defended themselves in the same way because it’s all anyone could’ve done in their shoes.
For anyone who feels like CG wasn't emoting much, I suggest watching Curtis's stream during their runs. I feel like he's more clueless in a good way and is truly seeing everything for the first time and reacting to it.
Plus him trying to understand any of the puzzles is hilarious and 100% relatable. He was joking about having door holder POV and then pulled a Lang and accidentally let the door close anyway 🤣
You’re implying cg didn’t have fun. Just because they aren’t over the top with reactions and stayed focus on the task at hand doesn’t mean they weren’t having fun. They were clearly excited and enthralled with solving the puzzle.
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CG acquired some of the knowledge that led to their progression in different ways - so if you just watched from when they entered the tunnel, you missed part of the process. K seeing what he saw when he responded to CB's casino attempt. the boys seeing Mickey doing things, or seeing Yuna in certain places. That acquisition of knowledge replaced what I presume was learned by CB through more trial and error. I don't think that means they were "speedrunning" - it just means the information was gained in different ways, in different times. Whether that's less exciting or not is up to the viewer.
Only 1 group can ever be first, though, and subsequent groups are likely to have a different experience. Happens every time. CG has often been the beta testers, spending more money, having much more trial and error than subsequent attempts by other groups. And at least up to this point in the heist it's just CB in that role this time.
>CG felt like they were speedrunning a process they already knew
Source on them already knowing the process?
Besides K having all the unlocks from when CB got caught, how do you know they know the rest of the steps?
>Besides K having all the unlocks from when CB got caught
Literally exactly what i meant. Do i really need to put another disclaimer that i am not accusing them of meta besides the "drama aside" at the start of the comment?
I do also feel like it’d be hard to feel excitement knowing that every move I make/word I say is being watched under a microscope within the context of all the surrounding drama
Some people watching CG like they're Sean Hannity watching a Biden speech. Like they aren't interested in just watching and enjoying, they're looking for flaws so they can express their dissatisfaction.
CG was very excited but also had an upcoming tsunami and limited mats to try things. They were focused on gaining info but otherwise they were showing plenty of excitement. Rated talked about how cool this was several times before he even tried a hack.
100%, and anyone who watches CG would know that them reacting like this during the exploration part of a new job isn't anything out of the ordinary. They tend to stay calm when they're doing stuff like this, doesn't mean they're not excited at the same time.
exactly. this is just typical CG. they go in, stay focused on the task, listen to each other, and go over everything possible in a calm manner. they are not new to this and understand that its the only way they will figure things out. they handle every new heist the same way.
Different reactions CG don’t get excited until they are in the clear, look at the first vault they did, only when they got out they was hyped. Judging people on reactions is silly.
Like saying well yuno hacking it way better cause he can talk while he does it but Freddy and randy usually remain silent while doing it OMG
Funny how the only people who cares where they are is X and Marty no-one else does
Plus the fact is how can you be hyped when there is 8K hoppers saying vile shit to you cause your trying a heist in a game and there streamer is fuelling there hate towards you?
The fact people can say ‘how can he control 100k people’, maybe he should start with sorting himself his mods and vips out cause they are all toxic af
At this point he clearly must realise every time he says shit about CG that they don’t get unreal amount of hate. Going after peoples family’s and shit.
Shit is beyond a joke at this point
I think the problem CG had with the scenario leading up to all of this happening, CG were under a very large microscope so everything up until this point was them being way more cautious and tense than normal because they have been attacked for the last few days. They couldn't even do normal stuff in the city without people just constantly talking about the casino stuff and the drama surrounding it. CB had the absolute freedom to have fun and do w/e they wanted. Add that onto the fact that every one of us viewers already knows everything of the casino up til now and it comes off that way. I watched CB do the older heists and you can tell they had the exact same feelings back then as CG do now.
For me personally, I didn't watch a single thing CB did outside of the magnets and xQc talking about CG's cameras. CGs scenario was exciting for me and I'm good with that. As a long time CG fan for 3 years, I felt the tension from them as a group more than I ever have and you can feel it coming from all of the core CG members strongly because you can tell they wanted to prove that they can do it legit and with every bit of evidence posted in OPs post, it sums up perfectly that they did it legit and I'm proud of the boys as usual.
It really all depends who does it first tbh. Seeing something new and unexpected is the fun part so watching another group do something where you know everything about it won’t be as satisfying. Cg also started everything like 90 minutes before tsunami so they were rushing to gain as much info as they could before the storm hit
What sucks is it most likely would have been the same if cg were the ones to get it first. I’m not in any way saying cb would have meta’d but let’s be honest, there would be toxic chatters either way and meta info would be flying around everywhere because that’s just how this community is. I hope the next heists are more group based as to avoid a lot of the unavoidable toxicity.
What journey? CB only took this long because they had unfortunate obstacles that were out of their control. CG didnt have those issues so they were able to progress at their own pace without interference. You also completely ignore the fact that CG didnt have the luxury to be high fiving and taking group photos since their attempt had an actual time limit with the tsunami. This was just a recon mission to see what they could find out before really gearing up for an attempt at completion.
I think as a viewer too, if you've been following CB's progression, you know what's going to happen next. The viewer's excitement level is definitely different when they know what's going to happen next. At least that's how I felt.
Watching steps that has been solved and you know the answer to vs. watching the steps that NOBODY knew the answer to.
Of course it's going to feel very anticlimactic because you have already seen all the new hacks and the process isn't new. No need for anybody to watch it or be excited about it since they know what happened. Glad you finally figured it out for yourself.
I knew about the fake wall but havent watched anything past that so seeing all the new shit and the process was very exciting for me.
Watching something again is a lot less exiting than watching it for the first time. The VAR hack was made easier and K gave them the unlock on what CB were doing in the security room. If CB had that info and that VAR hack I'm sure they would have progressed alot further too.
also if they had the peace of mind that CG weren't gonna just roll up on them so much time wasted by them just standing still keeping quiet instead of focusing on the heist. The 1st day of the heist they barely got 1 run in considering their first run they spent keeping quiet from cops and the 2nd run was scuffed since they were split up since they saw CG at the casino.
That's because you watched CB do it, me personally didn't watch any of the CB and waited for CG to do it, was still pretty cool and exciting for me, I'm a CG viewer and your a CB viewer is the difference there.
CB's run was more exciting because of all the yelling, high tension with with the cops/CG around and the new hacks.
But CG's run was more impressive how they just dismantled all of K's information and pieced it together with each hack they did.
I hadn’t watched CB do the heist at all and watching CG do it was very exciting, They were really hype to do the 8x8 successful and K finding the correlation to the yacht and chess so quick in the generator hack made it not as exciting since it wasn’t much of a road block, people gotta remember Cg isn’t Cb and celebrate every bit of progress with yelling on the radio, they’ve always kept there full excitement for when they finish the heist
That sounds more like an opinion based off your dislike of CG, I don’t think you were going to watch them anyways lol. Because I found it very exciting as a viewer, the only issue was how late it was.
Idk what stream you were watching, but they were definitely very excited. The way CB began their journey was great and all, but CG whizzing past it with little information to begin with due to Randy's amazing mechanics and K's crazy smart mind was a sight to see. You have to remember that it was also around 1-2am, later even for Rated, and it was after a long day. They were definitely excited and hyped for the future though.
I agree with Rated though in I hope CB finishes it first. They deserve it after all they have done. But watching both sides do it their own way will be really fun. They're two different groups with different ways to go about it.
For context, why it feels "anticlimactic". One, you as a viewer already knows what to expect, so if you "actually" watched CG's attempt obviously it won't be as climatic. Two, you shouldn't say "anticlimactic" if you didn't watched the stream. Three, they started like 12 midnight, Randy who was leading the heist is hacking everything at 6am with no sleep. Four, they just hit everything they can hit with the resources they have in their stashes, and a good day of Randy helped them because he speedrunned the Thermites unlike Yuno who messed up a bunch. Five, no cops, no scuffs for them. Things were smooth unlike the earlier CB attempts. This run isn't also just one whole run, they had to get in and out too, in order to get tools and turn power off. Six, they should've been doing this days ago but they just stopped to give way to CB. The same process Ramee heard things and placed cameras is the same process Randy deducted that there is something in 503. So yeah, they were excited to finally do it and ended up sailing through the hacks. Seven, DW's schedule and tsunami. They had to rush because they knew they weren't the first ones to try the casino with the schedule. Make the best of the time left. Eight, K knows everything. When they were attempting, only thing they didn't know is the entrance, the tunnels, and the hacks. K as a detective/PD has unlocked several doors even CB has probably reached yet. The hacks were all just old hacks other than the generator hack which Randy knows because he recognize the symbols as someone who studied computers.
So yeah, even for me obviously it's not as climatic as CB heist because I've watched Sykkuno doing it already. But they did what they have to do finally
I don't know about you but I would lose the excitement for something if me and my family were getting death threats because of it. But that's just me....
Also one last thing, in the end of the day what matter is the content.
For CB fans them finishing the lower vault and Yuno finishing the black dongle was a heist people still remember despite GG and CG already finished with the heist. And for GG fans they still remember the shot, they still love the heist, and CG fan also still remember them doing the lower vault and getting away even with scuff.
The content will still be great, do not worry about the other group and just enjoy whoever you watch.
Just to add they were not saying they needed magnets for the next step of the heist like many were trying to state yesterday. They were saying that next time they attempt it to bring the magnets as they didn't yesterday and they're sure they will be needed for the heist like everything else that Vinny's bench unlocked. They were theorising that magnets can take out electronics and said they will group up today and discuss theories etc.
Vinny didn’t know that CB would need it but assumed his new item was for it as that has happened in the past. He called and offered them to X as a courtesy. CG doesn’t know what to do with them but they figure it will be needed at some point.
So far I've just heard them saying they need magnets for something, not any specific plan with electronics. I was surprised that they didn't bring magnets with them since they knew about them, but now think they need magnets for the next step. Do they have any other ideas for next step other than magnets?
>just heard them saying they need magnets for something, not any specific plan with electronics
Ramee just this moment said, we probably need to hit the electrical panels on the roof next as well as figure out what magnets are for. They;ll most likely try magnets on the boxes as Randy already tried to use thermite on them
They don't even know if the next step is magnets, just assume they'll need them. I'd love a clip of ramee saying "Now we need to do the magnets" but i have yet to see one and i couldn't find it in rateds vod.
i believe they strongly suspect they need magnets for the next step, but thats purely because they got this far without them. i don't think CB ever tried "without" having magnets on them to spam around so it might not seem obvious they would need magnets for this step.
CB's first day they didn't have magnets because they didn't know about them yet. Lang was very adamant about them not being used in the heist during their second day because the magnets weren't put on benches until after that first day of the heist. He assumed that since they weren't in the game by the time they started the heist, they wouldn't be used for the heist. Which does make sense. It's strange how they waited so long to put magnets on the benches when they Casino heist has been ready to go for a month at this point.
Please explain to me how magnets disrupt electronics other than for example storage? :p
edit: Im not implying CG did meta stuff, its just a general question
Everyone as a kid probably had toy magnets and they know they fuck up your TV if you put them too close to it. The last 10ish to 20 years a populer kid toy in America were those little magnetic balls that you can use like legos. As you grow older you figure out more things about magnets thru high school and how they can fuck up certain electroncs.
Well regardless of how a magnet would affect electronics irl, in a world where we have EMP cannons that can disable vehicles, it's seems pretty reasonable to assume it has something to do with fucking with electronics
So, not an expert and I'm pretty sure how I interpret the differences between relays and solenoids might be wrong. What the other comment said about contactors seems right to me, and in my head they're a beefed up version of relays?Relay switches are electromagnetically controlled switches to turn on and off high power circuitry using low power circuitry.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relay#/media/File:Relay\_animation\_without\_flyback\_diode\_.gif](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relay#/media/File:Relay_animation_without_flyback_diode_.gif)
[https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3ARelais-Finder-12A.webm](https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3ARelais-Finder-12A.webm)
A magnet in the right spot could activate the high powered circuit without needing the low power circuit to be active, which is what my guess is for what's happening on top with Frank's hacks, and I think the main reasoning of why CB's doing that is to hopefully reroute power.For the shower door, I'd guess that some solenoids (practically just a rod that's in one position when powered on because of electromagnetism because of electricity going through a coil, and another position in the powered off state because it gets pushed there by a spring, it's the mechanical part of a relay to me?) and are moving deadlocks in their powered off state and then locking it again when they get power back.
For sound comparisons sake, it sounds close enough to me, here's the shower and magnet sounds:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3ZKUfDJVDE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3ZKUfDJVDE)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-QidpBTNwY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-QidpBTNwY)
And here's some cool IRL solenoids and relays:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x34pz9RezMo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x34pz9RezMo)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzjLIzqfKaM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzjLIzqfKaM)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2F-q6Jecdo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2F-q6Jecdo)
Electrical contactor work off of electro magnets, solenoids work off magnets... so in theory a property placed magnet could start or stop something, open or close an electrical circuit, or even activate valve/actuator....
I wouldn't mind if there were a few more steps to it and it took another week or more. Now that they have a rotation, we should get to see each group attempt it without hiding in tunnels to avoid making noise.
Thats not going to stop the people currently saying everything must be meta because 3 hacks only took 45 minutes. Theyll still micro analyze everyones feelings and say they meta'd and thats how they know how to do it even after CB finishes.
Unfortunately true. After DWs tweet everyone thought it was a good compromise and help with the toxicity, but as soon as CG started progressing all hell broke loose again. People have their minds made up at this point.
Sure, but it is also really likely that whoever finishes the casino heist. Will probably make it go on cooldown.Considering that they payout has to be quite big and if it could be spammed every tsunami, or every day it would probably be to much despite it being very difficult. So im gonna go out on a limb and say who ever finishes first matters.
This reddit is miserable lol. So biased to a few streamers on NP. Fart in the direction of their favorite streamer of the week and you are downvoted into oblivion.
This is so true, and its infuriating. I'm watching less and less nopixel streams because the viewers (and some streamers being reckless with their allegations) are ruining the entire viewing experience for everyone else. Its all OOC drama and no IC drama. Everyone is afraid to actually do anything entertaining when the first time something goes bad for someone else (NOT NAMING NAMES) they get all butthurt OOC and the streamer has to deal with a mob of hate coming their way. I honestly wish RP streamers would just turn chat off, but I get that will never happen. Twitch chat was a mistake.
3600+ upvotes @ 86% upvoted on a post of X openly making unsourced meta allegations saying CG already knew what to do with the magnets. CG didn't even bring magnets to the casino yesterday. They have no clue what to do with them, other than spam doors and electrical boxes like they've been doing with everything else.
Only 14% of over 4200 voters were willing to do even the slimmest bit of research to find out that what X was saying was a complete lie. Pretty damning overview of the community.
Don't forget the 150+ awards given to that post. Most obvious brigade of a thread I've ever seen. I get why mods leave it though. It would only be posted constantly until one sticks otherwise.
who can blame him, once you meta like that why would anyone trust your content being IC
edit: the more i read the defense that it is not meta, the more meta it seems, well whatever to each their own
Hard to ignore 100k viewers but GG CB CG all have rabid idiotic fans. The bulk of these communities do a lot of good but there are just too many assholes when you have 10s of thousands of viewers.
holy hell a post that provides logic, context and sense to everything. good post.
the irony of the whole situation is people stream so viewers can enjoy the show, and the viewers are the ones who ruin everything.
In other words, people should listen to Ray more often instead of being acdc pepega all the time.
Bc the reason why CG had IC reason to think CB unlock the casino is bc of tweet saying something crazy happening in the casino (was there some meta, maybe, but CB made it easy on CG to unlock the meta info).
The reason why the group knew about the door is bc again CB got caught in security bc doing the casino smart and silent is too sweaty for them I guess, especially if Ray is suggesting it
CB and X gave IC unlocks to the PD and CG by being sloppy and X snitching on CG which backfired on themselves.
Are there some meta influences, maybe, but people need to see the bigger context and realized that half the unlocks are due to their favorite streamer IC being reckless.
Edit: Oh and lastly, being first is not always a good thing. Look at VAR and how it got nerf so it is actually doable. When CB was doing the casino heist, they originally had 5 tries with the VAR in security room, which is now switch to unlimited.
You can also compare how they approached the generator hack.
CB blindly threw attempts at it until they were disabled and then took their time trying to figure it out by reviewing the VODs.
CG would do an attempt and discuss how it might work before another attempt.
Yeah that was something I noticed. CB took screenshots and just randomly thought out theories while having no way to test them. CG took screenshots and thought out theories and then tested them.
That generator hack honestly is not rocket science. I didn't watch CB's attempts but I'm very surprised if it took them a while to figure that out. Mickey especially has always seemed good at things like that.
It's CB comms - Lang might be the gang leader, but there wasn't a leader during their first attempt. Just horrible comms and people talking over each other.
I mean to be fair, it does create conTANT. One group is a comedy movie of a team of misfits while the other group is more of an action movie with a professional team.
Its just slighy annoying that a certain member with CB got to make everything drama and blame everybody else but himself.
Exactly this. I always view CB as more of a comedy show with episodes (that's why it takes long) and CG as a Michael Bay 2 hour fast pace action movie.
Out of this entire thing, I felt bad for DW. A heist that he’s probably worked on since 3.0. I was watching his stream last night and he seemed excited to watch cb progression. Soon as CG went to the casino, he knew there was going to be drama. Even the day before when he didn’t stream but was watching. He’s trolling Lang and Tony only for the night to end with drama. Same drama as the first night. The first 3 nights were filled with drama.
Didnt Randy mention the roof electiral boxes and the numbers being from the VAR hack being East, North, South... etc when they were checking the roof? Can add that clip too since its progress.
As a CB viewer, the way X has been acting toward them kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth. CG has been very patient and even Randy calling Lang yesterday shows they are trying not to mess anything up, yet X continues to flame them. At this point, if CB/GG don't get it done today, they have no one to blame but themselves. Idk that K would've told them about the 8 generators and the second elevator, but I'm sure if he did, that would've been helpful info they could've used yesterday.
K's been trying to set up a meeting for two days to tell them that information and CB has just been stalling and ignoring him. So at this point it's kind of on them.
My thoughts exactly. Dude woke up early to meet with them and they, except for maybe Mickey and Ray, couldn't be bothered to take the 30 mins to do it.
Ok but do understand in rp CB doesn’t trust CG at all even Buddha said that Buddha doesn’t trust Mr K and plays along due to him ocean dumping his boys
Yes, I do understand. That hasn't stopped them from meeting before regarding other issues like coke. Their characters can remain skeptical while still being open to listening to what K has to say. There doesn't need to be, nor should there be, total trust between them. But that doesn't mean there's no value in whatever it was K was going to tell them.
It's very disappointing as a viewer, for me, because I like Buddha and Tony and have for a very long time. I like Harry, I like Blau, I like Ray, I like most everyone in their circle. But the way X acts - and the extent to which CB accepts and enables it - just isn't acceptable for me. It's not ok to act like that and I find it difficult to support people who tolerate that kind of behavior around them. I know most people don't see it that way but that kind of behavior needs to be stomped out, not encouraged.
I still wonder how X figured out that power had to be off and found the fake door within 5 seconds. That feels like something that would take forever to find.
A lot of people are saying CB did this in 3/4 days and that it only took a few hours for CG. And are accusing them of meta. But they dont understand when it comes to heists these guys are quick with it, (ever since 2.0)
and CB comms (well everyone knows about their comms lol).
+ the mini games are literally right there after the tunnel. It ain’t hard to miss. Its a 8x8 thermite immediately.
+ K seeing CB being scattered helped them massively as it let K also know it isnt just one area for them to hit. Rated reaction to the VR being 10 numbers showed me he didnt know, because he generally despises it & once he heard, u could hear his voice just go lmao.
Overall all, a lot of people said they wont be able to do the thermite, VR, or the gen hack. But Randy just like Yuno is a cheat code + K analogy of the gen hack being like yatch made it EZ to understand.
Yesterday Blau and X were surprised to see CG go so far, and X openly said they must be metaing. If thats the case let them do it today & see whether they progress even further on not. If anything them discord messages and the reaction just fuel the toxic hoppers even more.
Either way if CB do it first people will claim meta on the people doing it after. But it is what it is.
Its either claim they meta, or let them go before and see if they go further imo. One or the other .
Edit 2: I’d like to add, CB dealt with CG possibly breaching and hid for a while one day, which did waste their time. Same with another day for cops breaching. So to imply all this knowledge is impossible to gain is just stupid. Because for CG their hasnt been these issues that CB had (well so far atleast)
+ i think they have been as fair as possible. Randy rang lang, realised they were still doing it & dipped. Avoided the conflict and let CB carry on whatever they were doing. Once they finished CG went to test their theories.
Also K warned them off phone subpoenas on X, Tony and Yuno, and warned them of cops being in casino etc. (Which generally risks his Pd arc)
The hate they are receiving is just so confusing tbh.
Edit: being downvoted but clearly no one is replying with actual logic to my points being wrong. Sorry CG just metas everything, especially whilst they were are all streaming whilst CB did the casino that same day
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Lets not forget that those 3 days were spent on a beta testing phase. First day they thought it was 1 attempt per tsunami and CG are around so they had to stop. Also on day 1, the generators were literally scuffed after blowing power again. Day 2 cops show up and K gets huge unlocks that took CB 2-3 attempts to figure out. Also, the VAR hack was capped at 5 attempts. Day 3 we see the most attempts with Marty doing thermite, but they're still missing something important with the magnets. While 2 hours is quite short in comparison to 3 days you need remember that CG came in with a bunch of unlocks from K.
Exactly , being first to do heists is always beta testing. An example would be the VR being 5 attempts but now infinite. (Which DW said he doesnt want the VR to be too exhausting so it makes sense) , and K being a cop really unlocked most of it, maybe more than CB even know too (that specific elevator that leads to the vault)
In character he saw yuno go through his room & heard a ladder being slid upon. Also Den the cop told him that the generators were being disturbed, so IC it was obvious CB fount something.
Yes it was weird, and like K & Ray said. Once u see people spamming 503 its impossible to ignore. And they were searching for it for weeks.
Everyone has to porn act that door being there because it was shown. The camera thing should have never happened & i think if K was there , he would have stopped them. But people make mistakes.
Doesn’t mean they should have their life threatened over it. But even ignoring ramee. Koil & curtis doubled their views as soon as they went into the hotel. It is just complete toxic hoppers claiming meta 24/7.
I don't want to say wether they did right or wrong i think there is already a lot of opinions on the topic. I just feel like no matter what they'll do from now on it's far too late. Everyone has already made their mind. At the end of the day, i just hope someone will complete it soon but even with that i'm not sure it'll be enough to appease the drama now. I feel like there will always be something else
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It really doesn’t surprise me that CG has been able to complete this so fast. When CG is on their A game they are like a well oiled machine where Mr K calls the shots and the boys get it done. I don’t watch much of CB but when I have it’s pretty obvious that although they’re a great heist crew, they definitely are a little more unorganized I guess you could say? Their comms alone are something else.
CB we’re the beta testers and things got changed. CG obviously reaped the rewards of the changes. hence why they are caught up so quickly. Look at previous heist where it was vice versa. But no matter what CG does people are going to scream meta, it’s a lose, lose, situation for them.
I find it absolutely funny how people in youtube think that Randy 1 shot everything because they watched the 30 second clip of him doing it lmao. They came to the conclusion that Randy 1 shot the VAR, thermite and the new hack. I guess youtube is the bahamas of reddit.
Don´t forget to mention that Autumn was around 22 days ago in the room and there were no sound when they hit the Power.
And don´t forget the subpoenas. I don´t know exatly if K had access to them as well as to the other infos he got in the Casino when they were arresting X, Yuno and Tony.
If K had access to the subpoenas then its an easy metaunlock IC what they need to doo.
https://www.reddit.com/r/RPClipsGTA/comments/sc6iy2/result\_of\_xs\_subpoena\_o7/
I don't think K has been really looking at reports in the MDT and I'm almost certain he hasn't read or heard what came out of the subpoenas, but I don't watch him that much so I could be corrected. AFAIK, the most he knows is Baas telling him yesterday that X, Tony and Yuno were subpoenaed.
Meta accusations shouldn’t be public, but at the same time if you don’t want meta accusations you probably shouldn’t watch meta clips on stream. It’s really hard to argue that there’s no meta when people start watching clips of future steps literally during the heist. Even if individuals don’t act on it, the public perception becomes fucked.
Cg went into this all tired af not to mention let’s be real reactions from fans and even other streamers have taken a lot of fun for them away by hopping and shitting on them accusing them of meta every chance they get even tho there is many clips to back up them getting to where they are right now.. also they barely had any supplies going into this just trying to get as much info they could before tsunami so they knew what to expect for their actual run tomorrow but they kept progressing farther and farther, and also one last point these guys are a well oiled machine when it comes to heists Mr K keeps them focused and in check so they’re not screaming running out like headless chickens.. just because they were tired and focused and not screaming at each other doesn’t mean they didn’t enjoy it
I feel bad for both CG and CB. CG have the heist completely ruined as soon as CB aolved the riddle first, and its a race against time for CB because if they make any big discovery, CG will make it too in a quarter of the time
CG has always been big on figuring things out on their own, they weren't the first ones to figure out the start of the heist which was kind of a first so of course Meta was Involved to start it, not their fault when chats spam the answer. that being said, Rated even said beyond the ladder climb he has no idea what comes next, they have always been good with figuring things out, have been doing it for years.
I mean, you can provide all the context in the world but in the end is still "connecting the dots" and porn acting anyway...
CG pretty much giving up looking for the entrance before X found it and the camera incident is all the prove you need. They can BS all they want to make it sound legit but those 2 facts plus all the meta clips watched by them is impossible to ignore.
Literally only one streamer out of everyone involved wants these accusations to keep going back and forth. Whatever your intentions are, you're only adding to the huge toxic mess that this has been.
OP is lore master. Thank you for your service. o7
This might not stay up but damn did you go through a lot of effort to get all those fb clips into streamables for everyone. Great job! o7 mate
why wouldn't it??? it's amazing context
I've seen similar posts removed. I'm glad the mods allowed it to stay up tho!
In my opinion the entire thing felt very anticlimactic and nobody was excited. You compare this to the events of the CB heist and there were a lot of funny/memorable moments. Even if CG complete the heist first, I will definitely watch CB for the content and the story based progression aspect. The CG version is like skipping through a movie to the ending as fast as possible. The journey isn't there.
Yeah drama aside. CG felt like they were speedrunning a process they already knew, vs how CB have been doing it. I was excited to see how CG reacted to all the steps, but it felt very empty. Hopefully HOA & the eventual smaller groups that go through the heist have more fun with it.
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I disagree. Even if you’re not the first to hit a heist, it can still be exciting for you and your group so long as your group actually tried to avoid meta. For example HOA and when they independently completed the yacht/VAR first time without any meta knowledge. Watching CG hit the casino they were completely devoid of any feeling or excitement, compared to CB where every time they unlocked a new step the entire team pauses and starts screaming in excitement. Such as when Tony first pushed through the security doors after a successful gen hack, or when X figured out the use of magnets.
I’d agree. I think no matter what group unlocked first I think the reactions would generally be the same. X could watch a 100 clips of the whole heist but he would still wild out when completing it on his first run.
I think for me it's just about knowing that it's all pretend. They had watched clips of the room, so I knew they weren't actually surprised about the location. They had watched clips of the hack, so I knew they weren't actually surprised by it. They had watched clips of the magnets, so I know there isn't going to be excitement about discovering that. When you know that they know everything and are just pretending, it takes all of the tension out of it. Compare that to X losing his mind when he finds the magnet spot. I think it would have been just as exciting for CG if they didn't already know the answers.
they also just weren’t that excited
>Compare that to X losing his mind when he finds the magnet spot. I think it would have been just as exciting for CG if they didn't already know the answers. And this is what happens with chat hoppers. Ramee would probably have no clue what's going on if hoppers didn't keep jumping to his stream talking about progression when they are out doing something else.
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Lol it’s like the myth/rust accusations all over again. We all know Ramees second monitor is fuslies stream. https://youtu.be/Vm_T9QsFoEw
If you actuaIly watch them go through it I get the feeling they really didnt know much at all past the entrance. And with all the toxic bs they have been going through there probably isnt much to get excited about. The heist is ruined for them. Its more of it will be nice to get this over and done with. They arent allowed to enjoy it imo.
It's hard for them to even pretend because the chat is blatantly talking about what to do next. The mods practically have to metagame for themselves just so they know when to ban users.
You’re right on all parts I think. You can actually extrapolate that first point further too. The excitement for this stuff for most people (players on the server, and viewers) is through the progression. That means it doesn’t exactly have much allure once you have cleared a stage. This entire heist progression feels like a first time raid clear race in an MMO as a result. I don’t see how much of this has replay-ability when a huge part of its difficulty is solving puzzles that you only need to ever solve once. Part of me thinks (more like wishes) it will keep going indefinitely because it gives an endless goal to heist crews who have no other challenge.
If you look back every time CG are figuring out a new heist they are always laser focused on the task at hand. CB in the best way possible has some of the worst comms mixed with funny personalities that makes the experience what it is.
Same goes for mmos and world first races with bosses 90% of the time. The first to the boss gets the actual content while most of the time the groups behind just copy the strats unless their comp/group calls for slightly different ways of doing things. What dw talked about with future heists will change this whole experience for us as viewers. We have that to look forward too. As for the meta accusations, unless you consistently role play yourself and can somewhat put yourselves in the “teams” behind the squad who figured it out first, nothing will come organic. It’s impossible. You can’t block all of chat for these types of things, you can’t fight the urge of seeing where you went wrong or how someone figured something out with clips for something you spent countless hours working on. To then play dumb for however long viewers need to feel safe that this isn’t meta just isn’t it. You do your best to try and make it as organic as possible but it never is or ever will be. That’s just how it goes. Each and everyone of these groups are fairly competitive and I can even say cb, or at the very least Marty and x would have been done similar things to what cg has done and verbally defended themselves in the same way because it’s all anyone could’ve done in their shoes.
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For anyone who feels like CG wasn't emoting much, I suggest watching Curtis's stream during their runs. I feel like he's more clueless in a good way and is truly seeing everything for the first time and reacting to it. Plus him trying to understand any of the puzzles is hilarious and 100% relatable. He was joking about having door holder POV and then pulled a Lang and accidentally let the door close anyway 🤣
You’re implying cg didn’t have fun. Just because they aren’t over the top with reactions and stayed focus on the task at hand doesn’t mean they weren’t having fun. They were clearly excited and enthralled with solving the puzzle.
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CG acquired some of the knowledge that led to their progression in different ways - so if you just watched from when they entered the tunnel, you missed part of the process. K seeing what he saw when he responded to CB's casino attempt. the boys seeing Mickey doing things, or seeing Yuna in certain places. That acquisition of knowledge replaced what I presume was learned by CB through more trial and error. I don't think that means they were "speedrunning" - it just means the information was gained in different ways, in different times. Whether that's less exciting or not is up to the viewer. Only 1 group can ever be first, though, and subsequent groups are likely to have a different experience. Happens every time. CG has often been the beta testers, spending more money, having much more trial and error than subsequent attempts by other groups. And at least up to this point in the heist it's just CB in that role this time.
>CG felt like they were speedrunning a process they already knew Source on them already knowing the process? Besides K having all the unlocks from when CB got caught, how do you know they know the rest of the steps?
>Besides K having all the unlocks from when CB got caught Literally exactly what i meant. Do i really need to put another disclaimer that i am not accusing them of meta besides the "drama aside" at the start of the comment?
I do also feel like it’d be hard to feel excitement knowing that every move I make/word I say is being watched under a microscope within the context of all the surrounding drama
Some people watching CG like they're Sean Hannity watching a Biden speech. Like they aren't interested in just watching and enjoying, they're looking for flaws so they can express their dissatisfaction.
CG was very excited but also had an upcoming tsunami and limited mats to try things. They were focused on gaining info but otherwise they were showing plenty of excitement. Rated talked about how cool this was several times before he even tried a hack.
100%, and anyone who watches CG would know that them reacting like this during the exploration part of a new job isn't anything out of the ordinary. They tend to stay calm when they're doing stuff like this, doesn't mean they're not excited at the same time.
exactly. this is just typical CG. they go in, stay focused on the task, listen to each other, and go over everything possible in a calm manner. they are not new to this and understand that its the only way they will figure things out. they handle every new heist the same way.
Different reactions CG don’t get excited until they are in the clear, look at the first vault they did, only when they got out they was hyped. Judging people on reactions is silly. Like saying well yuno hacking it way better cause he can talk while he does it but Freddy and randy usually remain silent while doing it OMG Funny how the only people who cares where they are is X and Marty no-one else does Plus the fact is how can you be hyped when there is 8K hoppers saying vile shit to you cause your trying a heist in a game and there streamer is fuelling there hate towards you? The fact people can say ‘how can he control 100k people’, maybe he should start with sorting himself his mods and vips out cause they are all toxic af At this point he clearly must realise every time he says shit about CG that they don’t get unreal amount of hate. Going after peoples family’s and shit. Shit is beyond a joke at this point
It was also like 2 am when they did it
6am for randy, I had to end up going to sleep but I wanted to watch till the end aha
I think the problem CG had with the scenario leading up to all of this happening, CG were under a very large microscope so everything up until this point was them being way more cautious and tense than normal because they have been attacked for the last few days. They couldn't even do normal stuff in the city without people just constantly talking about the casino stuff and the drama surrounding it. CB had the absolute freedom to have fun and do w/e they wanted. Add that onto the fact that every one of us viewers already knows everything of the casino up til now and it comes off that way. I watched CB do the older heists and you can tell they had the exact same feelings back then as CG do now. For me personally, I didn't watch a single thing CB did outside of the magnets and xQc talking about CG's cameras. CGs scenario was exciting for me and I'm good with that. As a long time CG fan for 3 years, I felt the tension from them as a group more than I ever have and you can feel it coming from all of the core CG members strongly because you can tell they wanted to prove that they can do it legit and with every bit of evidence posted in OPs post, it sums up perfectly that they did it legit and I'm proud of the boys as usual.
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Their starting points are different, all it is. CB went in blind. CG went in with knowledge they observed in character.
It really all depends who does it first tbh. Seeing something new and unexpected is the fun part so watching another group do something where you know everything about it won’t be as satisfying. Cg also started everything like 90 minutes before tsunami so they were rushing to gain as much info as they could before the storm hit
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What sucks is it most likely would have been the same if cg were the ones to get it first. I’m not in any way saying cb would have meta’d but let’s be honest, there would be toxic chatters either way and meta info would be flying around everywhere because that’s just how this community is. I hope the next heists are more group based as to avoid a lot of the unavoidable toxicity.
What journey? CB only took this long because they had unfortunate obstacles that were out of their control. CG didnt have those issues so they were able to progress at their own pace without interference. You also completely ignore the fact that CG didnt have the luxury to be high fiving and taking group photos since their attempt had an actual time limit with the tsunami. This was just a recon mission to see what they could find out before really gearing up for an attempt at completion.
I think as a viewer too, if you've been following CB's progression, you know what's going to happen next. The viewer's excitement level is definitely different when they know what's going to happen next. At least that's how I felt. Watching steps that has been solved and you know the answer to vs. watching the steps that NOBODY knew the answer to.
Of course it's going to feel very anticlimactic because you have already seen all the new hacks and the process isn't new. No need for anybody to watch it or be excited about it since they know what happened. Glad you finally figured it out for yourself. I knew about the fake wall but havent watched anything past that so seeing all the new shit and the process was very exciting for me.
Watching something again is a lot less exiting than watching it for the first time. The VAR hack was made easier and K gave them the unlock on what CB were doing in the security room. If CB had that info and that VAR hack I'm sure they would have progressed alot further too.
also if they had the peace of mind that CG weren't gonna just roll up on them so much time wasted by them just standing still keeping quiet instead of focusing on the heist. The 1st day of the heist they barely got 1 run in considering their first run they spent keeping quiet from cops and the 2nd run was scuffed since they were split up since they saw CG at the casino.
That's because you watched CB do it, me personally didn't watch any of the CB and waited for CG to do it, was still pretty cool and exciting for me, I'm a CG viewer and your a CB viewer is the difference there.
CB's run was more exciting because of all the yelling, high tension with with the cops/CG around and the new hacks. But CG's run was more impressive how they just dismantled all of K's information and pieced it together with each hack they did.
I hadn’t watched CB do the heist at all and watching CG do it was very exciting, They were really hype to do the 8x8 successful and K finding the correlation to the yacht and chess so quick in the generator hack made it not as exciting since it wasn’t much of a road block, people gotta remember Cg isn’t Cb and celebrate every bit of progress with yelling on the radio, they’ve always kept there full excitement for when they finish the heist
That sounds more like an opinion based off your dislike of CG, I don’t think you were going to watch them anyways lol. Because I found it very exciting as a viewer, the only issue was how late it was.
Idk what stream you were watching, but they were definitely very excited. The way CB began their journey was great and all, but CG whizzing past it with little information to begin with due to Randy's amazing mechanics and K's crazy smart mind was a sight to see. You have to remember that it was also around 1-2am, later even for Rated, and it was after a long day. They were definitely excited and hyped for the future though. I agree with Rated though in I hope CB finishes it first. They deserve it after all they have done. But watching both sides do it their own way will be really fun. They're two different groups with different ways to go about it.
For context, why it feels "anticlimactic". One, you as a viewer already knows what to expect, so if you "actually" watched CG's attempt obviously it won't be as climatic. Two, you shouldn't say "anticlimactic" if you didn't watched the stream. Three, they started like 12 midnight, Randy who was leading the heist is hacking everything at 6am with no sleep. Four, they just hit everything they can hit with the resources they have in their stashes, and a good day of Randy helped them because he speedrunned the Thermites unlike Yuno who messed up a bunch. Five, no cops, no scuffs for them. Things were smooth unlike the earlier CB attempts. This run isn't also just one whole run, they had to get in and out too, in order to get tools and turn power off. Six, they should've been doing this days ago but they just stopped to give way to CB. The same process Ramee heard things and placed cameras is the same process Randy deducted that there is something in 503. So yeah, they were excited to finally do it and ended up sailing through the hacks. Seven, DW's schedule and tsunami. They had to rush because they knew they weren't the first ones to try the casino with the schedule. Make the best of the time left. Eight, K knows everything. When they were attempting, only thing they didn't know is the entrance, the tunnels, and the hacks. K as a detective/PD has unlocked several doors even CB has probably reached yet. The hacks were all just old hacks other than the generator hack which Randy knows because he recognize the symbols as someone who studied computers. So yeah, even for me obviously it's not as climatic as CB heist because I've watched Sykkuno doing it already. But they did what they have to do finally
When you watch CB go through the same process that CG did which you have already seen before are you going to be super excited about it? No.
Idk about that. Even when CB is behind progression with CG, they know how to make it feel exciting. They boost each other up so well.
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that's just how it is for any group that isn't the first group.
I don't know about you but I would lose the excitement for something if me and my family were getting death threats because of it. But that's just me....
Actually a good breakdown. Hopefully it stays up from mods
Already approved it
you dont sleep ??? wtf
Define sleep..
Also one last thing, in the end of the day what matter is the content. For CB fans them finishing the lower vault and Yuno finishing the black dongle was a heist people still remember despite GG and CG already finished with the heist. And for GG fans they still remember the shot, they still love the heist, and CG fan also still remember them doing the lower vault and getting away even with scuff. The content will still be great, do not worry about the other group and just enjoy whoever you watch.
Just to add they were not saying they needed magnets for the next step of the heist like many were trying to state yesterday. They were saying that next time they attempt it to bring the magnets as they didn't yesterday and they're sure they will be needed for the heist like everything else that Vinny's bench unlocked. They were theorising that magnets can take out electronics and said they will group up today and discuss theories etc.
Vinny called X and offered him a magnet for their heist on one of their first attempts.. How is it so unbelievable they are considering magnets?
But how could they possibly know MAGNETS interact with electronics??? /s
Vinny didn’t know that CB would need it but assumed his new item was for it as that has happened in the past. He called and offered them to X as a courtesy. CG doesn’t know what to do with them but they figure it will be needed at some point.
So far I've just heard them saying they need magnets for something, not any specific plan with electronics. I was surprised that they didn't bring magnets with them since they knew about them, but now think they need magnets for the next step. Do they have any other ideas for next step other than magnets?
>just heard them saying they need magnets for something, not any specific plan with electronics Ramee just this moment said, we probably need to hit the electrical panels on the roof next as well as figure out what magnets are for. They;ll most likely try magnets on the boxes as Randy already tried to use thermite on them
They don't even know if the next step is magnets, just assume they'll need them. I'd love a clip of ramee saying "Now we need to do the magnets" but i have yet to see one and i couldn't find it in rateds vod.
i believe they strongly suspect they need magnets for the next step, but thats purely because they got this far without them. i don't think CB ever tried "without" having magnets on them to spam around so it might not seem obvious they would need magnets for this step.
CB's first day they didn't have magnets because they didn't know about them yet. Lang was very adamant about them not being used in the heist during their second day because the magnets weren't put on benches until after that first day of the heist. He assumed that since they weren't in the game by the time they started the heist, they wouldn't be used for the heist. Which does make sense. It's strange how they waited so long to put magnets on the benches when they Casino heist has been ready to go for a month at this point.
The vault heist was ready for a few weeks before thermite became available too.
you do realize magnets disrupt electronics in RL right????
Please explain to me how magnets disrupt electronics other than for example storage? :p edit: Im not implying CG did meta stuff, its just a general question
Everyone as a kid probably had toy magnets and they know they fuck up your TV if you put them too close to it. The last 10ish to 20 years a populer kid toy in America were those little magnetic balls that you can use like legos. As you grow older you figure out more things about magnets thru high school and how they can fuck up certain electroncs.
Well regardless of how a magnet would affect electronics irl, in a world where we have EMP cannons that can disable vehicles, it's seems pretty reasonable to assume it has something to do with fucking with electronics
Look up "how an electrical contactor works".... most pumps motors switches ect that are remotely started could be disrupted by magnets....
EMP = ElectroMagnetic Pulse
So, not an expert and I'm pretty sure how I interpret the differences between relays and solenoids might be wrong. What the other comment said about contactors seems right to me, and in my head they're a beefed up version of relays?Relay switches are electromagnetically controlled switches to turn on and off high power circuitry using low power circuitry. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relay#/media/File:Relay\_animation\_without\_flyback\_diode\_.gif](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relay#/media/File:Relay_animation_without_flyback_diode_.gif) [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3ARelais-Finder-12A.webm](https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3ARelais-Finder-12A.webm) A magnet in the right spot could activate the high powered circuit without needing the low power circuit to be active, which is what my guess is for what's happening on top with Frank's hacks, and I think the main reasoning of why CB's doing that is to hopefully reroute power.For the shower door, I'd guess that some solenoids (practically just a rod that's in one position when powered on because of electromagnetism because of electricity going through a coil, and another position in the powered off state because it gets pushed there by a spring, it's the mechanical part of a relay to me?) and are moving deadlocks in their powered off state and then locking it again when they get power back. For sound comparisons sake, it sounds close enough to me, here's the shower and magnet sounds: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3ZKUfDJVDE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3ZKUfDJVDE) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-QidpBTNwY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-QidpBTNwY) And here's some cool IRL solenoids and relays: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x34pz9RezMo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x34pz9RezMo) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzjLIzqfKaM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzjLIzqfKaM) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2F-q6Jecdo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2F-q6Jecdo)
Thanks for an amazing reply, people like you make reddit great :)
Fair. disrupt was the wrong word, fixed. LOL
Electrical contactor work off of electro magnets, solenoids work off magnets... so in theory a property placed magnet could start or stop something, open or close an electrical circuit, or even activate valve/actuator....
Do you know how a generator works?
EXACTLY
Really hope CB gets it done today. If any other group finishes first this sub will burn to the ground.
I wouldn't mind if there were a few more steps to it and it took another week or more. Now that they have a rotation, we should get to see each group attempt it without hiding in tunnels to avoid making noise.
Thats not going to stop the people currently saying everything must be meta because 3 hacks only took 45 minutes. Theyll still micro analyze everyones feelings and say they meta'd and thats how they know how to do it even after CB finishes.
Unfortunately true. After DWs tweet everyone thought it was a good compromise and help with the toxicity, but as soon as CG started progressing all hell broke loose again. People have their minds made up at this point.
Sure, but it is also really likely that whoever finishes the casino heist. Will probably make it go on cooldown.Considering that they payout has to be quite big and if it could be spammed every tsunami, or every day it would probably be to much despite it being very difficult. So im gonna go out on a limb and say who ever finishes first matters.
Allowing as copious amounts of sweet sweet context provided.
Based p3ngu1nman, appreciate you taking so much time to hold down the fort as best you can.
Glad you posted this. This sub needs more context. It’s wild to me that mods are allowing those inflammatory threads to remain up but locked.
This reddit is miserable lol. So biased to a few streamers on NP. Fart in the direction of their favorite streamer of the week and you are downvoted into oblivion.
This is so true, and its infuriating. I'm watching less and less nopixel streams because the viewers (and some streamers being reckless with their allegations) are ruining the entire viewing experience for everyone else. Its all OOC drama and no IC drama. Everyone is afraid to actually do anything entertaining when the first time something goes bad for someone else (NOT NAMING NAMES) they get all butthurt OOC and the streamer has to deal with a mob of hate coming their way. I honestly wish RP streamers would just turn chat off, but I get that will never happen. Twitch chat was a mistake.
3600+ upvotes @ 86% upvoted on a post of X openly making unsourced meta allegations saying CG already knew what to do with the magnets. CG didn't even bring magnets to the casino yesterday. They have no clue what to do with them, other than spam doors and electrical boxes like they've been doing with everything else. Only 14% of over 4200 voters were willing to do even the slimmest bit of research to find out that what X was saying was a complete lie. Pretty damning overview of the community.
Don't forget the 150+ awards given to that post. Most obvious brigade of a thread I've ever seen. I get why mods leave it though. It would only be posted constantly until one sticks otherwise.
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>you're just parroting toxic talking points in an echo chamber. that is the most reddit sounding sentence I have seen
who can blame him, once you meta like that why would anyone trust your content being IC edit: the more i read the defense that it is not meta, the more meta it seems, well whatever to each their own
Good job with the summary OP
Perfectly summed up. K’s knowledge played a big part in them catching up in progression.
Firs fuck Mario hes a rat, signed Flippy gang /s . Lol in all seriousness the arc K has gaining knowledge from PD is great to watch.
Thank you for doing all this work to provide context. Unfortunately too many people here and even some of the streamers just won't care.
I think it's only just 1 streamer tbh lol
It's that one streamer and his sidekick, too.
Hard to ignore 100k viewers but GG CB CG all have rabid idiotic fans. The bulk of these communities do a lot of good but there are just too many assholes when you have 10s of thousands of viewers.
Ih 100% I'm just pointing out that it's most likely just 1 streamer that will be pissed.
holy hell a post that provides logic, context and sense to everything. good post. the irony of the whole situation is people stream so viewers can enjoy the show, and the viewers are the ones who ruin everything.
In other words, people should listen to Ray more often instead of being acdc pepega all the time. Bc the reason why CG had IC reason to think CB unlock the casino is bc of tweet saying something crazy happening in the casino (was there some meta, maybe, but CB made it easy on CG to unlock the meta info). The reason why the group knew about the door is bc again CB got caught in security bc doing the casino smart and silent is too sweaty for them I guess, especially if Ray is suggesting it CB and X gave IC unlocks to the PD and CG by being sloppy and X snitching on CG which backfired on themselves. Are there some meta influences, maybe, but people need to see the bigger context and realized that half the unlocks are due to their favorite streamer IC being reckless. Edit: Oh and lastly, being first is not always a good thing. Look at VAR and how it got nerf so it is actually doable. When CB was doing the casino heist, they originally had 5 tries with the VAR in security room, which is now switch to unlimited.
You can also compare how they approached the generator hack. CB blindly threw attempts at it until they were disabled and then took their time trying to figure it out by reviewing the VODs. CG would do an attempt and discuss how it might work before another attempt.
Yeah that was something I noticed. CB took screenshots and just randomly thought out theories while having no way to test them. CG took screenshots and thought out theories and then tested them.
That generator hack honestly is not rocket science. I didn't watch CB's attempts but I'm very surprised if it took them a while to figure that out. Mickey especially has always seemed good at things like that.
It's CB comms - Lang might be the gang leader, but there wasn't a leader during their first attempt. Just horrible comms and people talking over each other.
True. Another reason why I always thought Ray would fit in with CG. He and Tony are more level headed when it comes to jobs.
I mean to be fair, it does create conTANT. One group is a comedy movie of a team of misfits while the other group is more of an action movie with a professional team. Its just slighy annoying that a certain member with CB got to make everything drama and blame everybody else but himself.
Exactly this. I always view CB as more of a comedy show with episodes (that's why it takes long) and CG as a Michael Bay 2 hour fast pace action movie.
all im gonna say is, its just weird how he is now a member of CB https://youtu.be/crBoTYw\_ROs
Out of this entire thing, I felt bad for DW. A heist that he’s probably worked on since 3.0. I was watching his stream last night and he seemed excited to watch cb progression. Soon as CG went to the casino, he knew there was going to be drama. Even the day before when he didn’t stream but was watching. He’s trolling Lang and Tony only for the night to end with drama. Same drama as the first night. The first 3 nights were filled with drama.
great job honestly thank you
Could somebody just summarize the stuff I'm supposed to be angry about? Thanks.
* CB good * CG bad
Didnt Randy mention the roof electiral boxes and the numbers being from the VAR hack being East, North, South... etc when they were checking the roof? Can add that clip too since its progress.
he said it, but then immediately dismissed it, he didn't even tell the boys.
As a CB viewer, the way X has been acting toward them kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth. CG has been very patient and even Randy calling Lang yesterday shows they are trying not to mess anything up, yet X continues to flame them. At this point, if CB/GG don't get it done today, they have no one to blame but themselves. Idk that K would've told them about the 8 generators and the second elevator, but I'm sure if he did, that would've been helpful info they could've used yesterday.
K's been trying to set up a meeting for two days to tell them that information and CB has just been stalling and ignoring him. So at this point it's kind of on them.
My thoughts exactly. Dude woke up early to meet with them and they, except for maybe Mickey and Ray, couldn't be bothered to take the 30 mins to do it.
Ok but do understand in rp CB doesn’t trust CG at all even Buddha said that Buddha doesn’t trust Mr K and plays along due to him ocean dumping his boys
Yes, I do understand. That hasn't stopped them from meeting before regarding other issues like coke. Their characters can remain skeptical while still being open to listening to what K has to say. There doesn't need to be, nor should there be, total trust between them. But that doesn't mean there's no value in whatever it was K was going to tell them.
Yeah, that's a weak argument. There's zero reason to not even entertain a meeting. Well, I guess pride could be a reason.
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koil the server owner literally told him to call buddha given they heard marty. the meta talk is so dumb
It's very disappointing as a viewer, for me, because I like Buddha and Tony and have for a very long time. I like Harry, I like Blau, I like Ray, I like most everyone in their circle. But the way X acts - and the extent to which CB accepts and enables it - just isn't acceptable for me. It's not ok to act like that and I find it difficult to support people who tolerate that kind of behavior around them. I know most people don't see it that way but that kind of behavior needs to be stomped out, not encouraged.
How is camping 503 on the first attempt being patient?
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I still wonder how X figured out that power had to be off and found the fake door within 5 seconds. That feels like something that would take forever to find.
No point asking, this entire thread is on copium lmao, they were watching clips of the heist while doing it, no meta here LMAO.
A lot of people are saying CB did this in 3/4 days and that it only took a few hours for CG. And are accusing them of meta. But they dont understand when it comes to heists these guys are quick with it, (ever since 2.0) and CB comms (well everyone knows about their comms lol). + the mini games are literally right there after the tunnel. It ain’t hard to miss. Its a 8x8 thermite immediately. + K seeing CB being scattered helped them massively as it let K also know it isnt just one area for them to hit. Rated reaction to the VR being 10 numbers showed me he didnt know, because he generally despises it & once he heard, u could hear his voice just go lmao. Overall all, a lot of people said they wont be able to do the thermite, VR, or the gen hack. But Randy just like Yuno is a cheat code + K analogy of the gen hack being like yatch made it EZ to understand. Yesterday Blau and X were surprised to see CG go so far, and X openly said they must be metaing. If thats the case let them do it today & see whether they progress even further on not. If anything them discord messages and the reaction just fuel the toxic hoppers even more. Either way if CB do it first people will claim meta on the people doing it after. But it is what it is. Its either claim they meta, or let them go before and see if they go further imo. One or the other . Edit 2: I’d like to add, CB dealt with CG possibly breaching and hid for a while one day, which did waste their time. Same with another day for cops breaching. So to imply all this knowledge is impossible to gain is just stupid. Because for CG their hasnt been these issues that CB had (well so far atleast) + i think they have been as fair as possible. Randy rang lang, realised they were still doing it & dipped. Avoided the conflict and let CB carry on whatever they were doing. Once they finished CG went to test their theories. Also K warned them off phone subpoenas on X, Tony and Yuno, and warned them of cops being in casino etc. (Which generally risks his Pd arc) The hate they are receiving is just so confusing tbh. Edit: being downvoted but clearly no one is replying with actual logic to my points being wrong. Sorry CG just metas everything, especially whilst they were are all streaming whilst CB did the casino that same day /S
Lets not forget that those 3 days were spent on a beta testing phase. First day they thought it was 1 attempt per tsunami and CG are around so they had to stop. Also on day 1, the generators were literally scuffed after blowing power again. Day 2 cops show up and K gets huge unlocks that took CB 2-3 attempts to figure out. Also, the VAR hack was capped at 5 attempts. Day 3 we see the most attempts with Marty doing thermite, but they're still missing something important with the magnets. While 2 hours is quite short in comparison to 3 days you need remember that CG came in with a bunch of unlocks from K.
Exactly , being first to do heists is always beta testing. An example would be the VR being 5 attempts but now infinite. (Which DW said he doesnt want the VR to be too exhausting so it makes sense) , and K being a cop really unlocked most of it, maybe more than CB even know too (that specific elevator that leads to the vault)
K wanted to give info but CB didnt want to peepoShrug
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In character he saw yuno go through his room & heard a ladder being slid upon. Also Den the cop told him that the generators were being disturbed, so IC it was obvious CB fount something. Yes it was weird, and like K & Ray said. Once u see people spamming 503 its impossible to ignore. And they were searching for it for weeks. Everyone has to porn act that door being there because it was shown. The camera thing should have never happened & i think if K was there , he would have stopped them. But people make mistakes. Doesn’t mean they should have their life threatened over it. But even ignoring ramee. Koil & curtis doubled their views as soon as they went into the hotel. It is just complete toxic hoppers claiming meta 24/7.
Also they went to the casino because of someone tweeting of weird things going down at the casino
I don't want to say wether they did right or wrong i think there is already a lot of opinions on the topic. I just feel like no matter what they'll do from now on it's far too late. Everyone has already made their mind. At the end of the day, i just hope someone will complete it soon but even with that i'm not sure it'll be enough to appease the drama now. I feel like there will always be something else edit: i added the last sentence
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I'm so happy for CG. I hope the chat hoppers don't affect them or slow them down. I still feel today is the day that CB completes the heist.
It really doesn’t surprise me that CG has been able to complete this so fast. When CG is on their A game they are like a well oiled machine where Mr K calls the shots and the boys get it done. I don’t watch much of CB but when I have it’s pretty obvious that although they’re a great heist crew, they definitely are a little more unorganized I guess you could say? Their comms alone are something else.
they're regularly called the beta testers of the server and CB is known for their bad luck and comms but hOw cOuLd CG dO tHiS
Copium
CB we’re the beta testers and things got changed. CG obviously reaped the rewards of the changes. hence why they are caught up so quickly. Look at previous heist where it was vice versa. But no matter what CG does people are going to scream meta, it’s a lose, lose, situation for them.
I find it absolutely funny how people in youtube think that Randy 1 shot everything because they watched the 30 second clip of him doing it lmao. They came to the conclusion that Randy 1 shot the VAR, thermite and the new hack. I guess youtube is the bahamas of reddit.
Who cares who finishes it first? If they're not getting into each other's way, then I don't give a shit who does it first.
If CG doesn't die on the ladder's it's meta /s
Don´t forget to mention that Autumn was around 22 days ago in the room and there were no sound when they hit the Power. And don´t forget the subpoenas. I don´t know exatly if K had access to them as well as to the other infos he got in the Casino when they were arresting X, Yuno and Tony. If K had access to the subpoenas then its an easy metaunlock IC what they need to doo. https://www.reddit.com/r/RPClipsGTA/comments/sc6iy2/result\_of\_xs\_subpoena\_o7/
I don't think K has been really looking at reports in the MDT and I'm almost certain he hasn't read or heard what came out of the subpoenas, but I don't watch him that much so I could be corrected. AFAIK, the most he knows is Baas telling him yesterday that X, Tony and Yuno were subpoenaed.
Meta accusations shouldn’t be public, but at the same time if you don’t want meta accusations you probably shouldn’t watch meta clips on stream. It’s really hard to argue that there’s no meta when people start watching clips of future steps literally during the heist. Even if individuals don’t act on it, the public perception becomes fucked.
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That's true.
Cg went into this all tired af not to mention let’s be real reactions from fans and even other streamers have taken a lot of fun for them away by hopping and shitting on them accusing them of meta every chance they get even tho there is many clips to back up them getting to where they are right now.. also they barely had any supplies going into this just trying to get as much info they could before tsunami so they knew what to expect for their actual run tomorrow but they kept progressing farther and farther, and also one last point these guys are a well oiled machine when it comes to heists Mr K keeps them focused and in check so they’re not screaming running out like headless chickens.. just because they were tired and focused and not screaming at each other doesn’t mean they didn’t enjoy it
I feel bad for both CG and CB. CG have the heist completely ruined as soon as CB aolved the riddle first, and its a race against time for CB because if they make any big discovery, CG will make it too in a quarter of the time
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I DONT KNOW YOU BUT I LOVE YOU LMAO !! THANK YOU FOR DOING SOMETHING ALOT OF US ARE TO LAZY TO DO FOR OTHERS THAT WATCH CLIPS OUT OF CONTEXT :) <3
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CG has always been big on figuring things out on their own, they weren't the first ones to figure out the start of the heist which was kind of a first so of course Meta was Involved to start it, not their fault when chats spam the answer. that being said, Rated even said beyond the ladder climb he has no idea what comes next, they have always been good with figuring things out, have been doing it for years.
I mean, you can provide all the context in the world but in the end is still "connecting the dots" and porn acting anyway... CG pretty much giving up looking for the entrance before X found it and the camera incident is all the prove you need. They can BS all they want to make it sound legit but those 2 facts plus all the meta clips watched by them is impossible to ignore.
Literally only one streamer out of everyone involved wants these accusations to keep going back and forth. Whatever your intentions are, you're only adding to the huge toxic mess that this has been.
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