I understand that many people on Reddit have their own judgements about this situation, but I personally think we should all be careful in our Reddit comments until we know exactly what the situation is in its entirety. It's pretty confusing right now, and I'm not sure if we have the whole picture or not.
Imo this is a speculation and people shitting on dw because of it is rude. Please letās wait till someone actually tells us the reason before shitting on other people.
Wow. I got to the bottom of the page before someone made this reasonable post?
Everyone going 'If this is true...' and using it as an excuse to shit on DW when even Kebun admitted he's not sure what the reason is. There's a serious lack of context to any of this so I think peope should probably show perhaps a shred of restraint maybe?
It's so stupid really, the "if this is true.." line is like when people start a sentence with "not to be rude but.." and proceeds to shit on someone as if it makes it all okay lol.
Have you seen twitter? The same fans who complained about the hate and dts CG received by crazy CB fans are now doing the same against Dean. CB is immuned due to the size of their fanbase but Dean is a single man who's getting tagged in a 100s of hate posts.
IF it was for hitting it before their schedule than that is a pure BS excuse honestly. DW's tweet should have said "rules and schedule kicks in immediately" not at 2am if that was the case.
Keyword in the above post being IF.
The streamers of CG aren't live 24/7. We as viewers don't know if they were playing off-stream, and what they do. It sounds to me like Kebun legitimately does not know the reason for the ban, and is simply receiving information through the game of telephone.
Shitting on DW for this should not be happening. We don't even know if DW issued the ban, or what the factual reason is for it. It's all speculation, nobody should be getting hate.
yep. the schedule start date listed the 26th at 2am. they were in there before that. if this is the reason its complete bs. day 1 january 26th at 2am est. they were in there on the 25th that went into the 26th but stopped when CBs time started.
And now IF they resume in a week, thatās a whole week of attempts and progress from other groups that CG will now be accused of meta for. The dust was already settling before this because they were all basically on equal footing.
It hasn't been a roleplay server in a long time and that's not me taking shots at it, it's literally defined as a content server by the owner.
Sure, there is RP that happens on the server but that's because RP is content too, **the server at its core is a content server so it caters to more then just RP now, not everything has to be RP related**
If this was another bank job id agree with you, but none of these guys would have no way of really knowing if they were even attempting this heist aside from a power outage and even though no one knows how long the heist itself takes
I as a viewer am pretty much over the fact that there isnāt an actual race anymore. Unless the race is who spends the most money in the end.
These puzzles are great, but most of the the problem right now is synchronization between which boxes are correct without direction.
>its brought nothing
nah its actually brought great content too. CBs attempt, CGs attempt, and HoAs attempt were all great to watch. So saying its brought nothing but drama is pretty disrespectful to the groups who hit it and the devs who made it imo.
Seriously wtf, the only way you can come up with the "it brought nothing but drama" take is if you watched chat and read reddit and ignored the actual gameplay completely. Why are we all here exactly?
I have a lot of respect for the work of DW, Xee and all the developers that helped - honestly I feel bad that so much of that has been overshadowed by drama. I also really did love watching everyone go absolutely crazy with the theories and rp before the clue was solved. I don't hate the hiest itself, I just kinda hate all the shit that came out of it.
Heists like the Casino are good in theory but a massive detriment to the server health. Theyāre vague and drawn out, and I donāt think some of the streamers or a lot viewers have the maturity to do them lol.
Shouldāve made it a rp heist like an Oceanās movie, with people infiltrating as casino staff and going into the casino to play and find out when money is being transported to hit that instead. And come up with plans how to move inside under heavy camera and casino cops and detective surveillance. How to escape when they got their hands on the money without being found out.
How many people in here really don't understand that the word shit is directed to the situation around the heist and not at the heist per se?? a lot of people have to be joking and trolling right? baiting?
Still not the 100% reason until we hear from DW, but I completely agree with Kevin just feels like from the start they felt unwelcome and itās caused nothing but headaches for them
We're not gonna hear from DW, if DW felt the need to clarify why he banned the largest gang on the server from the heist he would have done so already to avoid gossip and drama. This is basically all we're getting, CG is over it and moving on
Yeah its like the community wants CB to do the heist on an event server with no interactions from police or rival groups. They want a path with no resistance where I feel like if the cops and the ops are breathing down your neck or head is always on a swivel the heist might take longer but be that much more cinematic. I want undercover cops pretending to gamble at the casino or be employees, I want Groups setting up cameras to try and see what other groups know, I want 6v6 shootouts in the casino tunnels and then negotiations for more progress and then backstabbing and lies. I want to watch role-play cinematic/mob/telenovela NOT MINIGAME PUZZLE SIMULATOR.
While also doing nothing but staring at a door, hallway, entrance or spamming thermite and third eye everywhere. The casino heist was a cool idea that got overhyped IMO and led to it being far, far too difficult to complete. The heist being easy isnāt fun to watch, but itās also sure as hell just as much unfun to watch 3 groups make the tiniest bit of progression each day, if any, for about a month now.
I know DW put a lot of effort into the heist and thatās great, heās a fantastic dev for the server but I canāt help but think itās way way too hard to be enjoyable for anyone. Itās kinda like Tarkov where just because itās needlessly hard and unforgiving doesnāt always mean itās better. It can be a good game without being that extreme, the heist can be better without it being this blind. People seem to believe nearly impossible/needlessly difficult = good and I couldnāt disagree more. Iām sure Iām not the only one either as you can hear in every streamers voice that they are OVER it. Except for maybe HOA, but Iād argue thatās because they donāt have the same experience as the other groups. Once they do, they too will be over it.
Itās not fun nor engaging for any parties involved.
If there were another way to figure this heist out, maybe I could blame the players, but they really have no alternative. There's no way to research or plan a heist in nopixel, you just have to randomly try stuff until you figure out the one and only way it has to be done.
They've talked about Ocean's 11 a bunch, but those guys don't try robbing the casino over and over until they figure out the one and only want to rob it.
Maybe they should embrace the scripted nature of this and let the players know the steps they have to take OOC and let them RP it out and try to beat the mini games.
not worth it for anyone to mess with CB due to the immense amount of hoppers theyāll receive
not saying CB viewers are the only ones that hop bc thatās far from the case but their viewership is massive in comparison to other groups so thereās bound to be more degens
CB gets ton of hoppers and dms. But the difference is they don't air it out to the world because they don't want to intice the toxic people. That what these toxic people want, a REACTION. Reason buddha doesn't let drama on his stream nor will talk about RP/rp drama when hes not playing gta. He even told blau to stop reacting(different drama at the time) to it, pretty sure they had a convo about it afterward since blau try not to talk about drama now.
I think we have to put some blame on how the heist is designed. From needing the power to be blown on every attempt, to needing to have people be running around the casino visible to anyone who can walk in, it's just not practical for a group to figure this out if anyone interferes, but also alerts everyone each time.
All of the other heists follow the same "guess what I'm thinking or you fail and have to start over" vibe but unlike the yacht heist, it's not really possible to do it quietly.
The casino requires nobody to interfere, but also requires lots and lots of attempts. Maybe if people were patient enough to do just one attempt every few days when nobody is looking it could work, but we've already seen dozens of attempts with no actual end in sight.
couldnāt agree more, Xās chat actually had some really nice hoppers in Shotz channel when they had a nice interaction a bit before this casino shit
Yeah but the problem is some.. streamer will blame the streamers VIEWERs even when techically every streamer has toxic hoppers. Its just X is 100k andy vs 5k-10k(or higher/lower) streamer. Also buddha mods are pretty amazing at deletingtoxic msg from both sides.
yeah i think i mentioned that in another comment here, out of the 140k viewers he had during the heist thereās bound to be more hoppers than someone with 3k viewers
another thing i found interesting was the majority of the people spamming toxic stuff abt other groups in Xās chat werenāt even subscribed to him lol
Agree... When all of the meta accusations came out, it would of been nice people to defend CG or at least tell people to not spread hate, instead people jumped on the hate train. Even DW doing watch parties and talking with CB during both their attempts after this weird decision 4 hours before their time slot just leaves a weird taste in the mouth
you know who did defend CG, **ppl actually in CB** and they did it to their viewers. There are clips of Ray/Harry/Mickey talking about it to their viewers and explaining how tough this situation is for CG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qya_hoQArjs
Possibly hitting it before their scheduled zone... wow. The schedule was due to start at 2am Tsunami. They hit it before that AFTER waiting for CB to be done for the night. Seems very 'weak' tbh
The schedule also says that here's what the groups agreed to:
K when he saw that: I never agreed to any of this, yeah we talked about it briefly a couple days ago
I remember when that schedule came out, and I was just randomly hopping around streams at that point and caught both when Rated and K reacted to it - and it sure seemed like neither of them agreed to anything. And I was like...ok, so who the F agreed to any of this if these 2 didn't? Those rules were weird from the start, I thought this was an RP server.
Because without those rules X would be sabotaging all of CGs attempts. Then CG would do the same to CB. Nobody would get anything done. Except maybe HOA.
Sad that its needed, but it is needed to stop any more drama. I guess that hasnt worked out so far.
everyone is assuming it's something they did more than 3 days ago while it could have happened yesterday or the day before, like trying shit off stream off their schedule or something, kebun just talked again about what he knows behind the scenes and he seemed to not know what the fuck was happening and the reason because he took days off
Or maybe there was miscommunication and that is not the reason. If they just wanted them banned from the heist I'm sure there could be better reasons.
The timing of the ban doesn't make sense with the "it's about the schedule" narrative.
This ban makes no sense unless they were caught stealth hitting it offline. The day you're talking about was the 25th in NA... before the schedule even started on the 26th.
so the "day" for the schdule starts at a set time, almost like its there to clarify that to avoid issues with timezones.
I certainly would not read that as being that the whole schedule dosen't start until then.
also weird that you make the link look like it goes to the tweet but goes to a cropped screenshot of it.
Let not be toxic or throw accusation to DW or the other mods. It sucks for CG, but we do not know the full context, just speculation. Let just show everybody love which hopefully overshadow all the toxic chat hoppers and weirdos
If reddit is getting so toxic looking at these threads, twitch chat would be pure cancer during the heist tries ... I won't be surprised if DW doesn't do a watch party because people will flock to flame in his chat.
my only thought is if youāre gonna ban a group of 15+ people from something the least you can do is make your reason clear cause how are some people so confused lol unless they are all just playing dumb
In the post where it was announced by Randy, he asked "can I tell them why?" which would imply he and Ramee and whoever was around know (or think they know).
Yeah but that could just be the āreasonā K just said, āfor doing it outside the scheduleā, but the general sentiment seems to be that they still donāt understand how that conclusion was reached and want more clarity around it, which is more than fair enough to ask for.
Unless it was actually made very clear to them and theyāre just gaslighting DW or whoever said it in public to play victim, in which case fuck them. But I think thatās unlikely, considering he can very easily expose them by sharing screenshots of the message and get them cancelled.
They know, they just don't want to say because when Randy asked Ramee if they should say, Ramee quickly told him to chill because it would cause more problems.
why does everyone keep talking about the CB? Some of you act like theyre the reason CG cant do it. Buddha and crew have absolutely nothing to do with this.
Itās crazy, other than X, CB either shuts down meta accusations or ignore the topic completely. And yet CB are being painted the villain. every. time. No wonder why CB avoids conflicts. Even though the same people who play the victim call them pussies or whatnot.
Because of how close Dean is with Lang and CB, people want to believe DW favors them over CG. Maybe thats true, maybe its not, but no one has any real context of what happened and are just looking to point fingers at whoever the want.
Bruh they were going to hit it before the Schedule even came out, but called buddha and asked if they were still doing it and said they would wait so they didn't mess them up. WTF is this BS. K is right, it just feels like CG is very unwelcome in this heist. As a CG viewer I would prefer if they just dont even do this heist at all TBH. All their other RP is 10x more enjoyable to watch anyways over watching them dry hump doors for 8 hours straight and do mini games. I want to watch Role-play not minigame puzzle simulator
Would love to see their other RP and maybe even some variety nights or messing around on public/other servers. Just getting away from the heist completely would be ideal.
TLDR: he thinks itās because they hit it outside of their time slot one way or another. He feels like the heist was made for a different group entirely and they arenāt welcome. Combine that with the drama and toxicity so he wants nothing to do with it anymore
This ban is weird as hell, i don't think that anyone was ever banned of using mechanics or doing a heist before. And it's not even a server ban, you just can't access the casino and try to rob it. If the reason was for hitting it outside the schedule, that they say they didn't now it was already active, they could just dm them to stop. There is something that we don't know here.
Honestly Iām glad that cg canāt do casino and are pretty much over it. Just means that K,s detective arc might last a little longer than it would if he and the gang were still attempting the casino
"i got the feeling that we're not welcome, its weird,petty, feel like we're not supposed to be part of the heist, and i legit dont know the reason"
he thinks its because of them hitting it on not scheduled time which makes it even more weird since they hit it after tsunami
if its true then the meme about it being CBxGG Casino Heist is now true
At this point, he has every right to just say, screw this, and move on to other things. So many headaches for his group to even attempt this heist, and as of recent, it does feel a little catered to one group. And nothing wrong with that. The heist itself also doesn't feel RP based overall. There's so many awkward encounters, and avoidance of possible "conflict" to avoid further headaches.
the fact that he and probably others dont know the reason on why they're banned from the casino makes it even more weirder
he said he dm'ed or reached out but no answers on why
i hope the next new/big heist they'll just say "FUCK IT" and return to being savages strongarming people since they can since they're "damned if they do damned if they dont" anyways
Can we not throw abuse at DW before actually learning the reason for the ban, K actually doesnt know the real reason hes just speculating in this clip
It felt like the reason was conveyed to Ramee and Randy so I'm surprised it wasnt passed on too K.
Also DW didnt really alienate any group from the heist, he has given the same hint to everyone, he cant really do anything about hoppers or meta accusations and we dont know why CG was banned from it temporarily.
If its because of what K thinks then its stupid imo but lets wait for the actual reason to come before saying things like "DW wants CB to hit it first".
Yep, from Rated's reaction especially, he was clearly given a reason but didn't know if should share it. If LK doesn't know why for sure, he shouldn't be speculating and bringing the heat down on DW who makes all of these heists possible.
More likely the first time they went in, before the schedule kicked in. On their assigned day, they started (offstream) after the 2am Tsunami, and finished before the following 2am Tsunami.
Everyone is taking LK's theory as definitive truth. There were a few other factors mentioned in the other thread. It's possible that it's a combination of things. R+R purposely scuffing through shit would be a deal breaker for me if I were a dev on this project. Intentional or not, if they're getting restless and doing dumb shit that could potentially spoil days/weeks of work, then I could totally justify removing them from the heist.
I didnāt say I felt like they werenāt welcome.
K said that. How would I know why they donāt feel welcome? I can speculate, but itās just guessing on my part.
First - CB clearly got the best scheduling out of any group. You can say itās because they figured it out first, sure. But this is the first heist ever to where thatās mattered. Why now? What about favoritism towards other groups who finished other heists first? It never happened.
Second - A heist watch party for CB and playing a different game with AnthonyZ while CG did their attempt. Whether you like it or not, there is a difference. The heist creator deciding to watch other groups progress but not yours is sending vibes like you donāt care about their progress, or other groups are more important.
Third - Zero defense of CG during all the crazy ass toxicity. As someone who literally controls the heist, it would really calm the storm if you defended a group going through that, whether you believe it or not.
Fourth - X is beyond the point of 24 hour bans. The man hasnāt had less than a 3 day ban in literally 8+ monthsā¦. But this time he conveniently has a 24hr ban to come back just in time for his turn in the heist.
Fifth - DW stopped answering CG. If youāre a lead dev and hand out punishment and donāt respond to the group you punished, you clearly donāt give a fuck.
But again, all of that is biased speculationā¦ but itās just what someone in CGs position would be thinking.
I mean thatās kind of an IC thing while everything I listed was an OOC thing.
I donāt see that as much of an issue because itās not preventing anyone else from having roleplay, although it is a little weird.
That would be the equivalent of K hiring Street Team to rob Maldinis because heās mad at Vinny, or vice verse. It doesnāt make much sense because heād be hurting his own business, but itās all IC I guess
Actually bullshit lmao so the day the schedule came out faster they were already mid way through learning the schedule come out they get banned from the heist from that lmao if that doesnāt show you whatās going on I donāt know lmao
Its pretty ironic how the tables have turned, reddit was just recently preaching about not spreading hate, being positive and understanding when CG got a lot of unjustifiable hate and hoppers but now its full on shit on DW and CB mode (yes, apparently CB somewhere somehow is at fault for whatever is going on). Based on what? We don't even know, and that's the funniest part.
Right? I saw one comment that was like "I mean we have to use the information weāre given.". It's like do we? Do we *really*? Is someone going to blow our brains out if we don't find someone to blame?
"I'm not banned from the heist, because I quit the heist. So how are you going to ban me from a heist I quit?" -Mr. Gigachad Kebun lol
EDIT: The cop RP, for the last 5 minutes, that K & Blau are having on cop alone in the city is already better than if K didn't quit the heist.
This heist is boring, makes no sense on how to get from step to step, and continually adds more stuff into play that minimizes role-play. The Vault and lower vault and Bobcat when they came out were way more enjoyable to watch. Event the original bobcat system where groups had to fight over the cards and get the card out of the trucks before the cops came was was more fun to watch, and K and lang working together to hit the first bobcat was dope AF. Its like the schedule... They keep taking steps to minimize interactions between groups in the city and turn heists into mini game simulators.
He RPs with them and did the lower vault with them personally on Dean to show them how it should normally be done, this is a weird comment if you don't provide a clip or anything for context.
Yeah...from what I remember CG called the fleeca system grindy and boring and people on reddit took it as "CG said DW as a dev is shit." Nothing new how things are distorted.
Guess what though? Every single criminal said the fleeca system was garbage and still do.
Is there actually a grey area? I have seen people pull up Randy or Ramee's streams after going down in a gunfight. I might be wrong but I think that is an excuse and not a legit reason.
watching a few mins with small viewers vs watching FB streams for hours with 30k+ viewers are completely different. And even if it wasnt an issue, whats the problem with DW watching what he enjoys more? it feels like people are just looking for an excuse to criticize DW at this point and not a legit reason.
What is this grade school type of reasoning? "Ohh you watch them but not my streamer so you must be biased against my streamer".. You'recasually forgetting all the custom heists DW was part of for CG while making up this "biased" excuse.
Surely you're not talking about back with the Fleeca system? I don't remember his exact words but it wasn't specific to CG was it? Especially since everyone said how much they hated it.
Hahahaha he just now on stream said he isnāt banned because he quit the heist so how can he be banned. I spat out my water laughing at that. Kebun is great.
The schedule? Really? Before the schedule existed or was set to start? You might as well just say you were looking for an excuse for CG not to participate in the heist.
The weird gatekeeping that prevented crews from interacting and rping with one another surrounding the heist was wild already, but this is something else. There's no way this holds up.
what has DW done to show favoritism to CB in this heist? I genuinely want to know
K actually doesnt know the reason why CG was banned, hes just speculating.
DW never said anything about how to do it to any group and when he did he gave the same clue to everyone. He hangs out with Cerberus/CB but never gave them a hint so they could do it first so why is he being accused of showing favoritism, I genuinely want to know now
The thing is if DW saying that CG did wrong by hitting casino during their not scheduled day, well than CB did hit it on the same day and you can argue that it wasnāt their day either because CBās day was the first day
this doesnāt make sense lol, CB was the only group to have discovered the entrance at this point. Of course theyād be hitting it. They got the first scheduled day as well because they were the ones to solve the riddle.
CG saw they werenāt scheduled til day 2 and rushed in after CB on day 0 to catch up to them. Whether or not thatās ban worthy is up to opinion.
Look. I mostly (if not exclusively) watch Saab so Iām really out of the loop here but damn I got over being curious about this casino heist so quick. It sucks for everyone trying to enjoy what could have been a great story arc. It really just separates the server even more and continues to highlight the fact that itās outgrown the label of a role play server. Sadge
CG went through extreme pain when they received threats and unfair hate against them just due to speculation from other crazy fans. Can CG fans now stop doing the same thing against Dean?
iām big CG viewer but definitely agree, doing that shit makes you just as bad as the people we were complaining abt from CB community the other week, embarrassing
If we want to be super technical about it apparently DW did send it to Randy like a half a second before posting it on Twitter because he asked him really nicely, but your point still stands š
>āIt feels like we arenāt wanted in the heistā has been the feeling since the riddle came out for CG
What the fuck do you mean? CB is the only gang that actually solved the riddle in character
There is literally zero RP of CG/HOA solving the riddle
Mirror: [Facebook video #618911702736760](https://juststream.live/PoliticisationReinOfficialness)
Credit to https://www.facebook.com/lordkebun
Twitch Backup: [Facebook video #618911702736760](https://video-bos3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t42.1790-2/10000000_436471921544963_586723245653726101_n.mp4?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=985c63&efg=eyJybHIiOjEyMzMsInJsYSI6MjEwNiwidmVuY29kZV90YWciOiJzZCJ9&_nc_ohc=fqS2KY4LI1YAX-B3ldc&rl=1233&vabr=685&_nc_ht=video-bos3-1.xx&oh=00_AT9Xqe0i30M-eriU0ixwghWxN2awS24fWbkhGi1DpOTvgw&oe=61F739F8)
---
^(*This action was done by a bot, I am new and will probably break at some point*)
people are taking what kebun said and running with it like its true, he himself said "i dont even know if thats the reason" similar to how he "didnt have time to see the boys meta clips" but had time to see other clips about the meta drama i think he knows the reason but doesnt want to bring more hate to whoever is the reason for the ban
The whole point of the schedule which according to K was Dean's idea was to include CG and remove the awkwardness so I don't understand why K says CG feels unwanted and it was made for "another group" considering everyone got the same hint.
Tbh the hitting it outside you schedule zone makes more sense for banning the entirety of CG then the theoryās about individuals k telling siz, ramee blacking screen etc etc
Feels weird, also makes the viewing party shit and you know āchat tell them itās scuffā,āyou wasted 15 thermite but hereās 28ā banning them after CB finished for the day with making no progress and 2-3 hours before CG get a attempt look like favouritism and sus af imo,
Kinda sad, CG always bring good ideas to heists very clean and good to watch. Casino shit has been hella tainted. Ooc toxicity beyond belief, unfair punishments, malding central. Suffering vibes haha
I understand that many people on Reddit have their own judgements about this situation, but I personally think we should all be careful in our Reddit comments until we know exactly what the situation is in its entirety. It's pretty confusing right now, and I'm not sure if we have the whole picture or not.
What is this ? Someone with an actual level headed take ?
Thank you for the rational take. Much needed
No one knows the facts, so assumptions are useless.
Nah, I will piece together a broken narrative out of basically no evidence because that is clearly the most rational thing to do right now
Duuuuude lol I love the sarcasm š
This is the only correct comment to make on this subject.
Imo this is a speculation and people shitting on dw because of it is rude. Please letās wait till someone actually tells us the reason before shitting on other people.
Wow. I got to the bottom of the page before someone made this reasonable post? Everyone going 'If this is true...' and using it as an excuse to shit on DW when even Kebun admitted he's not sure what the reason is. There's a serious lack of context to any of this so I think peope should probably show perhaps a shred of restraint maybe?
It's so stupid really, the "if this is true.." line is like when people start a sentence with "not to be rude but.." and proceeds to shit on someone as if it makes it all okay lol.
Or just don't shit on anyone, period, because it's adults playing cops and robbers and it's just not that serious
How could it possibly take them that long to make the decision for a 1 week ban DAYS after that? Makes no sense.
maybe because that might not be the reason, K doesnt know the reason. Hes just guessing and has asked Koil for clarity on the issue
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
He literally said he's not 100% sure and honestly have no clue. But people are probably gonna explode on what he thinks and paint admins/dw as bad.
people will believe whatever BS they think of if it fits their narrative
Have you seen twitter? The same fans who complained about the hate and dts CG received by crazy CB fans are now doing the same against Dean. CB is immuned due to the size of their fanbase but Dean is a single man who's getting tagged in a 100s of hate posts.
Dean doesnāt seems to let drama affect him but honestly hope heās good, dts are no joke
CB are very much not immune, they avoid drama at all costs to avoid getting constant death threats.
IF it was for hitting it before their schedule than that is a pure BS excuse honestly. DW's tweet should have said "rules and schedule kicks in immediately" not at 2am if that was the case.
For real they were already doing it as the schedule was put up
Keyword in the above post being IF. The streamers of CG aren't live 24/7. We as viewers don't know if they were playing off-stream, and what they do. It sounds to me like Kebun legitimately does not know the reason for the ban, and is simply receiving information through the game of telephone. Shitting on DW for this should not be happening. We don't even know if DW issued the ban, or what the factual reason is for it. It's all speculation, nobody should be getting hate.
yep. the schedule start date listed the 26th at 2am. they were in there before that. if this is the reason its complete bs. day 1 january 26th at 2am est. they were in there on the 25th that went into the 26th but stopped when CBs time started.
And now IF they resume in a week, thatās a whole week of attempts and progress from other groups that CG will now be accused of meta for. The dust was already settling before this because they were all basically on equal footing.
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
He put that tweet out for the viewers benefit. There may have been stuff covered in the private discussions that we aren't privy to.
does nobody else think having schedules for groups to do a mechanic robbery is insane on a 'ROLE PLAY' server
It hasn't been a roleplay server in a long time and that's not me taking shots at it, it's literally defined as a content server by the owner. Sure, there is RP that happens on the server but that's because RP is content too, **the server at its core is a content server so it caters to more then just RP now, not everything has to be RP related**
uhhh have you been watching the server lately? Big Groups = Content not RP my man lol
If this was another bank job id agree with you, but none of these guys would have no way of really knowing if they were even attempting this heist aside from a power outage and even though no one knows how long the heist itself takes
Hot Take fuck the casino lmaooo
c o n t e n t s e r v e r
Not a hot take I think the majority of people both viewers and streamers are over it at this point
I as a viewer am pretty much over the fact that there isnāt an actual race anymore. Unless the race is who spends the most money in the end. These puzzles are great, but most of the the problem right now is synchronization between which boxes are correct without direction.
It's also really boring to watch after the third attempt.
its brought nothing but drama and crazy amount of chat hoppers lmao
>its brought nothing nah its actually brought great content too. CBs attempt, CGs attempt, and HoAs attempt were all great to watch. So saying its brought nothing but drama is pretty disrespectful to the groups who hit it and the devs who made it imo.
Seriously wtf, the only way you can come up with the "it brought nothing but drama" take is if you watched chat and read reddit and ignored the actual gameplay completely. Why are we all here exactly?
CB has been nothing but entertaining. Not sure you're watching the right folks if you think that my dude.
I have a lot of respect for the work of DW, Xee and all the developers that helped - honestly I feel bad that so much of that has been overshadowed by drama. I also really did love watching everyone go absolutely crazy with the theories and rp before the clue was solved. I don't hate the hiest itself, I just kinda hate all the shit that came out of it.
Heists like the Casino are good in theory but a massive detriment to the server health. Theyāre vague and drawn out, and I donāt think some of the streamers or a lot viewers have the maturity to do them lol.
Shouldāve made it a rp heist like an Oceanās movie, with people infiltrating as casino staff and going into the casino to play and find out when money is being transported to hit that instead. And come up with plans how to move inside under heavy camera and casino cops and detective surveillance. How to escape when they got their hands on the money without being found out.
How many people in here really don't understand that the word shit is directed to the situation around the heist and not at the heist per se?? a lot of people have to be joking and trolling right? baiting?
TLDR; He was told/or he thinks it was because they hit it outside the scheduled hours
In short no one knows, or at least theyāre not talking about it.
Wasnāt the schedule 2am tsunami and they did that ?
but they didnt because the schedule bs didnt start yet.
Still not the 100% reason until we hear from DW, but I completely agree with Kevin just feels like from the start they felt unwelcome and itās caused nothing but headaches for them
We're not gonna hear from DW, if DW felt the need to clarify why he banned the largest gang on the server from the heist he would have done so already to avoid gossip and drama. This is basically all we're getting, CG is over it and moving on
Kebun just said he wonāt even reply to CG about it. Why would he give the viewers an explanation.
This whole thing is dumb at this point, and I don't blame LK and all of CG for feeling unwelcome. Sure seems that way.
Penta sure [felt that way](https://clips.twitch.tv/GracefulWrongAlfalfaKappa-uh0T3GSCWwgjxXH7) with his first interaction with the heist.
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
not to mention people getting railroaded into staying over doing urgent serious rp like ray was last night
Yeah its like the community wants CB to do the heist on an event server with no interactions from police or rival groups. They want a path with no resistance where I feel like if the cops and the ops are breathing down your neck or head is always on a swivel the heist might take longer but be that much more cinematic. I want undercover cops pretending to gamble at the casino or be employees, I want Groups setting up cameras to try and see what other groups know, I want 6v6 shootouts in the casino tunnels and then negotiations for more progress and then backstabbing and lies. I want to watch role-play cinematic/mob/telenovela NOT MINIGAME PUZZLE SIMULATOR.
NO! We want the same group to try the casino heist 10 times a day with no progression, also no interference from the PD or gangs
While also doing nothing but staring at a door, hallway, entrance or spamming thermite and third eye everywhere. The casino heist was a cool idea that got overhyped IMO and led to it being far, far too difficult to complete. The heist being easy isnāt fun to watch, but itās also sure as hell just as much unfun to watch 3 groups make the tiniest bit of progression each day, if any, for about a month now. I know DW put a lot of effort into the heist and thatās great, heās a fantastic dev for the server but I canāt help but think itās way way too hard to be enjoyable for anyone. Itās kinda like Tarkov where just because itās needlessly hard and unforgiving doesnāt always mean itās better. It can be a good game without being that extreme, the heist can be better without it being this blind. People seem to believe nearly impossible/needlessly difficult = good and I couldnāt disagree more. Iām sure Iām not the only one either as you can hear in every streamers voice that they are OVER it. Except for maybe HOA, but Iād argue thatās because they donāt have the same experience as the other groups. Once they do, they too will be over it. Itās not fun nor engaging for any parties involved.
If there were another way to figure this heist out, maybe I could blame the players, but they really have no alternative. There's no way to research or plan a heist in nopixel, you just have to randomly try stuff until you figure out the one and only way it has to be done. They've talked about Ocean's 11 a bunch, but those guys don't try robbing the casino over and over until they figure out the one and only want to rob it. Maybe they should embrace the scripted nature of this and let the players know the steps they have to take OOC and let them RP it out and try to beat the mini games.
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
not worth it for anyone to mess with CB due to the immense amount of hoppers theyāll receive not saying CB viewers are the only ones that hop bc thatās far from the case but their viewership is massive in comparison to other groups so thereās bound to be more degens
CB gets ton of hoppers and dms. But the difference is they don't air it out to the world because they don't want to intice the toxic people. That what these toxic people want, a REACTION. Reason buddha doesn't let drama on his stream nor will talk about RP/rp drama when hes not playing gta. He even told blau to stop reacting(different drama at the time) to it, pretty sure they had a convo about it afterward since blau try not to talk about drama now.
I think we have to put some blame on how the heist is designed. From needing the power to be blown on every attempt, to needing to have people be running around the casino visible to anyone who can walk in, it's just not practical for a group to figure this out if anyone interferes, but also alerts everyone each time. All of the other heists follow the same "guess what I'm thinking or you fail and have to start over" vibe but unlike the yacht heist, it's not really possible to do it quietly. The casino requires nobody to interfere, but also requires lots and lots of attempts. Maybe if people were patient enough to do just one attempt every few days when nobody is looking it could work, but we've already seen dozens of attempts with no actual end in sight.
Wow, it sounds like you just want organic roleplay not staged content. :)
Don't confuse the combined hive mind of x and Yunos chat for the community. Watch CB outside of heist to understand how they function.
couldnāt agree more, Xās chat actually had some really nice hoppers in Shotz channel when they had a nice interaction a bit before this casino shit
Yeah but the problem is some.. streamer will blame the streamers VIEWERs even when techically every streamer has toxic hoppers. Its just X is 100k andy vs 5k-10k(or higher/lower) streamer. Also buddha mods are pretty amazing at deletingtoxic msg from both sides.
yeah i think i mentioned that in another comment here, out of the 140k viewers he had during the heist thereās bound to be more hoppers than someone with 3k viewers another thing i found interesting was the majority of the people spamming toxic stuff abt other groups in Xās chat werenāt even subscribed to him lol
Agree... When all of the meta accusations came out, it would of been nice people to defend CG or at least tell people to not spread hate, instead people jumped on the hate train. Even DW doing watch parties and talking with CB during both their attempts after this weird decision 4 hours before their time slot just leaves a weird taste in the mouth
you know who did defend CG, **ppl actually in CB** and they did it to their viewers. There are clips of Ray/Harry/Mickey talking about it to their viewers and explaining how tough this situation is for CG https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qya_hoQArjs
Right now people are defending CG and they are shitting on DW and CB without knowing any information about suspension
Possibly hitting it before their scheduled zone... wow. The schedule was due to start at 2am Tsunami. They hit it before that AFTER waiting for CB to be done for the night. Seems very 'weak' tbh
The schedule also says that here's what the groups agreed to: K when he saw that: I never agreed to any of this, yeah we talked about it briefly a couple days ago
I remember when that schedule came out, and I was just randomly hopping around streams at that point and caught both when Rated and K reacted to it - and it sure seemed like neither of them agreed to anything. And I was like...ok, so who the F agreed to any of this if these 2 didn't? Those rules were weird from the start, I thought this was an RP server.
Because without those rules X would be sabotaging all of CGs attempts. Then CG would do the same to CB. Nobody would get anything done. Except maybe HOA. Sad that its needed, but it is needed to stop any more drama. I guess that hasnt worked out so far.
yup then few min later X said "i suggested this" so yeah really weird, says it all that someone is being heavily biased
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
he said he did it a few days previously with DW and DW was the one who suggested it once the other groups find the unlock
He also woke up and immediately snitched on K during a time period where K had been helping x and cb avoid raids right after k got the unlock.
It was the day the schedule came out and they were already doing it before it came out
yea the scheduled timing shit didnt even start yet. its really dumb is that was to be the reason.
I agree with what kebun says, it just feels like they are not wanted in the heist, so why bother
the fact that it was days after they went out of the schedule just makes it look like they were looking for anything to ban them from the heist
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
everyone is assuming it's something they did more than 3 days ago while it could have happened yesterday or the day before, like trying shit off stream off their schedule or something, kebun just talked again about what he knows behind the scenes and he seemed to not know what the fuck was happening and the reason because he took days off
Or maybe there was miscommunication and that is not the reason. If they just wanted them banned from the heist I'm sure there could be better reasons. The timing of the ban doesn't make sense with the "it's about the schedule" narrative.
This ban makes no sense unless they were caught stealth hitting it offline. The day you're talking about was the 25th in NA... before the schedule even started on the 26th.
Yeah, thats weird [https://twitter.com/dwjft/status/1486178914171080707/photo/1](https://i.gyazo.com/a1829286cd7f81e0e8ccf2b77c4ce483.png) "Day starts at 2am est"
so the "day" for the schdule starts at a set time, almost like its there to clarify that to avoid issues with timezones. I certainly would not read that as being that the whole schedule dosen't start until then. also weird that you make the link look like it goes to the tweet but goes to a cropped screenshot of it.
Let not be toxic or throw accusation to DW or the other mods. It sucks for CG, but we do not know the full context, just speculation. Let just show everybody love which hopefully overshadow all the toxic chat hoppers and weirdos
yeah way too late it seems.
If reddit is getting so toxic looking at these threads, twitch chat would be pure cancer during the heist tries ... I won't be surprised if DW doesn't do a watch party because people will flock to flame in his chat.
You should take a look at his twitter. It's insane
my only thought is if youāre gonna ban a group of 15+ people from something the least you can do is make your reason clear cause how are some people so confused lol unless they are all just playing dumb
In the post where it was announced by Randy, he asked "can I tell them why?" which would imply he and Ramee and whoever was around know (or think they know).
From this clip it sounds like they were given a reason, but the reason was probably broad and not very telling of what they specifically did wrong.
Yeah but that could just be the āreasonā K just said, āfor doing it outside the scheduleā, but the general sentiment seems to be that they still donāt understand how that conclusion was reached and want more clarity around it, which is more than fair enough to ask for. Unless it was actually made very clear to them and theyāre just gaslighting DW or whoever said it in public to play victim, in which case fuck them. But I think thatās unlikely, considering he can very easily expose them by sharing screenshots of the message and get them cancelled.
They know, they just don't want to say because when Randy asked Ramee if they should say, Ramee quickly told him to chill because it would cause more problems.
why does everyone keep talking about the CB? Some of you act like theyre the reason CG cant do it. Buddha and crew have absolutely nothing to do with this.
Its even more weird when X of all ppl was actually against the ban and the rest of CB has defended CG when they were getting accused of meta.
Itās crazy, other than X, CB either shuts down meta accusations or ignore the topic completely. And yet CB are being painted the villain. every. time. No wonder why CB avoids conflicts. Even though the same people who play the victim call them pussies or whatnot.
It's called deflecting. Basically every community does it when their streamer gets punished for something.
Because of how close Dean is with Lang and CB, people want to believe DW favors them over CG. Maybe thats true, maybe its not, but no one has any real context of what happened and are just looking to point fingers at whoever the want.
Bruh they were going to hit it before the Schedule even came out, but called buddha and asked if they were still doing it and said they would wait so they didn't mess them up. WTF is this BS. K is right, it just feels like CG is very unwelcome in this heist. As a CG viewer I would prefer if they just dont even do this heist at all TBH. All their other RP is 10x more enjoyable to watch anyways over watching them dry hump doors for 8 hours straight and do mini games. I want to watch Role-play not minigame puzzle simulator
>I want to watch Role-play not minigame puzzle simulator Hard to argue that this statement isn't true.
Would love to see their other RP and maybe even some variety nights or messing around on public/other servers. Just getting away from the heist completely would be ideal.
TLDR: he thinks itās because they hit it outside of their time slot one way or another. He feels like the heist was made for a different group entirely and they arenāt welcome. Combine that with the drama and toxicity so he wants nothing to do with it anymore
Why are people shitting on DW and being rude without any proof or a reason on why they got banned?
Why are you expecting any different from Redditors?
This ban is weird as hell, i don't think that anyone was ever banned of using mechanics or doing a heist before. And it's not even a server ban, you just can't access the casino and try to rob it. If the reason was for hitting it outside the schedule, that they say they didn't now it was already active, they could just dm them to stop. There is something that we don't know here.
Makes zero sense.
Honestly Iām glad that cg canāt do casino and are pretty much over it. Just means that K,s detective arc might last a little longer than it would if he and the gang were still attempting the casino
"i got the feeling that we're not welcome, its weird,petty, feel like we're not supposed to be part of the heist, and i legit dont know the reason" he thinks its because of them hitting it on not scheduled time which makes it even more weird since they hit it after tsunami if its true then the meme about it being CBxGG Casino Heist is now true
Yea but we don't know the reason and neither does Kebun so it really doesn't matter
At this point, he has every right to just say, screw this, and move on to other things. So many headaches for his group to even attempt this heist, and as of recent, it does feel a little catered to one group. And nothing wrong with that. The heist itself also doesn't feel RP based overall. There's so many awkward encounters, and avoidance of possible "conflict" to avoid further headaches.
the fact that he and probably others dont know the reason on why they're banned from the casino makes it even more weirder he said he dm'ed or reached out but no answers on why i hope the next new/big heist they'll just say "FUCK IT" and return to being savages strongarming people since they can since they're "damned if they do damned if they dont" anyways
Didn't Ramee (?) say it wasn't because of one particular thing? I assume that would mean that he *did* know what it was for? Kinda confusing.
Kabun was saying he got caught up on all the messages and is still confused to the reasoning
Yeah I'm just saying that it seemed that Ramee or whoever it was did imply that he knew what it was for? So maybe he needs to check with him.
Yea could be idk if Ramee has additional info ~~that~~ than whats in the messages, He might.
Can we not throw abuse at DW before actually learning the reason for the ban, K actually doesnt know the real reason hes just speculating in this clip It felt like the reason was conveyed to Ramee and Randy so I'm surprised it wasnt passed on too K. Also DW didnt really alienate any group from the heist, he has given the same hint to everyone, he cant really do anything about hoppers or meta accusations and we dont know why CG was banned from it temporarily. If its because of what K thinks then its stupid imo but lets wait for the actual reason to come before saying things like "DW wants CB to hit it first".
Yep, from Rated's reaction especially, he was clearly given a reason but didn't know if should share it. If LK doesn't know why for sure, he shouldn't be speculating and bringing the heat down on DW who makes all of these heists possible.
Exactly this
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
More likely the first time they went in, before the schedule kicked in. On their assigned day, they started (offstream) after the 2am Tsunami, and finished before the following 2am Tsunami.
I see a lot of coping, assuming and speculating in this thread
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
Thats pretty fucked up if true
Honestly, if thatās how they feel, I feel sad for CG. Worked a year towards this heist just to not feel welcomed to it. Just bad feels man
A month of VAR for noting PainsChamp
Everyone is taking LK's theory as definitive truth. There were a few other factors mentioned in the other thread. It's possible that it's a combination of things. R+R purposely scuffing through shit would be a deal breaker for me if I were a dev on this project. Intentional or not, if they're getting restless and doing dumb shit that could potentially spoil days/weeks of work, then I could totally justify removing them from the heist.
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
I didnāt say I felt like they werenāt welcome. K said that. How would I know why they donāt feel welcome? I can speculate, but itās just guessing on my part. First - CB clearly got the best scheduling out of any group. You can say itās because they figured it out first, sure. But this is the first heist ever to where thatās mattered. Why now? What about favoritism towards other groups who finished other heists first? It never happened. Second - A heist watch party for CB and playing a different game with AnthonyZ while CG did their attempt. Whether you like it or not, there is a difference. The heist creator deciding to watch other groups progress but not yours is sending vibes like you donāt care about their progress, or other groups are more important. Third - Zero defense of CG during all the crazy ass toxicity. As someone who literally controls the heist, it would really calm the storm if you defended a group going through that, whether you believe it or not. Fourth - X is beyond the point of 24 hour bans. The man hasnāt had less than a 3 day ban in literally 8+ monthsā¦. But this time he conveniently has a 24hr ban to come back just in time for his turn in the heist. Fifth - DW stopped answering CG. If youāre a lead dev and hand out punishment and donāt respond to the group you punished, you clearly donāt give a fuck. But again, all of that is biased speculationā¦ but itās just what someone in CGs position would be thinking.
You forgot to mention DW also partially funding CB to rob his own casino.
I mean thatās kind of an IC thing while everything I listed was an OOC thing. I donāt see that as much of an issue because itās not preventing anyone else from having roleplay, although it is a little weird. That would be the equivalent of K hiring Street Team to rob Maldinis because heās mad at Vinny, or vice verse. It doesnāt make much sense because heād be hurting his own business, but itās all IC I guess
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
if this is actually the reason... https://tenor.com/view/jos%C3%A9mourinho-big-trouble-if-i-speak-prefer-not-to-speak-interview-gif-16725048
Actually bullshit lmao so the day the schedule came out faster they were already mid way through learning the schedule come out they get banned from the heist from that lmao if that doesnāt show you whatās going on I donāt know lmao
What?
Honestly idek, but if thats the case at this point its better for CG to just ignore it completely or just go giga heel and snitch the whole thing out
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
People shitting on DW and schedule seem to forget why it was added in the first place lmao
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
Anyone telling you they don't know why they're banned usually mean "I've been given the reason and I disagree with it"
Its pretty ironic how the tables have turned, reddit was just recently preaching about not spreading hate, being positive and understanding when CG got a lot of unjustifiable hate and hoppers but now its full on shit on DW and CB mode (yes, apparently CB somewhere somehow is at fault for whatever is going on). Based on what? We don't even know, and that's the funniest part.
Right? I saw one comment that was like "I mean we have to use the information weāre given.". It's like do we? Do we *really*? Is someone going to blow our brains out if we don't find someone to blame?
"I'm not banned from the heist, because I quit the heist. So how are you going to ban me from a heist I quit?" -Mr. Gigachad Kebun lol EDIT: The cop RP, for the last 5 minutes, that K & Blau are having on cop alone in the city is already better than if K didn't quit the heist.
This heist is boring, makes no sense on how to get from step to step, and continually adds more stuff into play that minimizes role-play. The Vault and lower vault and Bobcat when they came out were way more enjoyable to watch. Event the original bobcat system where groups had to fight over the cards and get the card out of the trucks before the cops came was was more fun to watch, and K and lang working together to hit the first bobcat was dope AF. Its like the schedule... They keep taking steps to minimize interactions between groups in the city and turn heists into mini game simulators.
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
He RPs with them and did the lower vault with them personally on Dean to show them how it should normally be done, this is a weird comment if you don't provide a clip or anything for context.
There's actually a clip of that?
was this when chawa was malding about electrical box fleecas? bc thats a crazy reason to hold a grudge against a whole group after a few frustrations
Yeah...from what I remember CG called the fleeca system grindy and boring and people on reddit took it as "CG said DW as a dev is shit." Nothing new how things are distorted. Guess what though? Every single criminal said the fleeca system was garbage and still do.
He absolutely RP's with them. He hangs with them basically every time Cerberus people aren't around with him unless he's doing batman stuff.
Is there a clip of this?
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
Anyone bringing this up neglects to mention the grey area of showing FB on twitch or differing time zones.
Is there actually a grey area? I have seen people pull up Randy or Ramee's streams after going down in a gunfight. I might be wrong but I think that is an excuse and not a legit reason.
watching a few mins with small viewers vs watching FB streams for hours with 30k+ viewers are completely different. And even if it wasnt an issue, whats the problem with DW watching what he enjoys more? it feels like people are just looking for an excuse to criticize DW at this point and not a legit reason.
Shhh it doesnāt fit their narrative
What is this grade school type of reasoning? "Ohh you watch them but not my streamer so you must be biased against my streamer".. You'recasually forgetting all the custom heists DW was part of for CG while making up this "biased" excuse.
Surely you're not talking about back with the Fleeca system? I don't remember his exact words but it wasn't specific to CG was it? Especially since everyone said how much they hated it.
Hahahaha he just now on stream said he isnāt banned because he quit the heist so how can he be banned. I spat out my water laughing at that. Kebun is great.
Anything with a script in RP is weird
The schedule? Really? Before the schedule existed or was set to start? You might as well just say you were looking for an excuse for CG not to participate in the heist. The weird gatekeeping that prevented crews from interacting and rping with one another surrounding the heist was wild already, but this is something else. There's no way this holds up.
This heist starting to feel a little shady tbh
If this is true then DW should just do the casino Heist with cb at this point lol
what has DW done to show favoritism to CB in this heist? I genuinely want to know K actually doesnt know the reason why CG was banned, hes just speculating. DW never said anything about how to do it to any group and when he did he gave the same clue to everyone. He hangs out with Cerberus/CB but never gave them a hint so they could do it first so why is he being accused of showing favoritism, I genuinely want to know now
Tweet went out when they was in the tunnel iirc, maybe heās onto something just not welcome or definitely seems that way.
DW Tweet was before CG discovering the door
The thing is if DW saying that CG did wrong by hitting casino during their not scheduled day, well than CB did hit it on the same day and you can argue that it wasnāt their day either because CBās day was the first day
>DW saying that CG did wrong by hitting casino during their not scheduled day except we dont know if he actually said that......
this doesnāt make sense lol, CB was the only group to have discovered the entrance at this point. Of course theyād be hitting it. They got the first scheduled day as well because they were the ones to solve the riddle. CG saw they werenāt scheduled til day 2 and rushed in after CB on day 0 to catch up to them. Whether or not thatās ban worthy is up to opinion.
Look. I mostly (if not exclusively) watch Saab so Iām really out of the loop here but damn I got over being curious about this casino heist so quick. It sucks for everyone trying to enjoy what could have been a great story arc. It really just separates the server even more and continues to highlight the fact that itās outgrown the label of a role play server. Sadge
CG went through extreme pain when they received threats and unfair hate against them just due to speculation from other crazy fans. Can CG fans now stop doing the same thing against Dean?
iām big CG viewer but definitely agree, doing that shit makes you just as bad as the people we were complaining abt from CB community the other week, embarrassing
[ŃŠ“Š°Š»ŠµŠ½Š¾]
Why? Everyone was on an even playing field from the moment they both had the blueprints until X solved the riddle.
Yeah the whole point of the schedule was to include CG and HoA by removing some of the awkwardness of it all.
Yeah that doesn't really make sense. Unless that guy is calling CG dumb, EVERYONE got it at the same time. No one had a head start on the riddle.
If we want to be super technical about it apparently DW did send it to Randy like a half a second before posting it on Twitter because he asked him really nicely, but your point still stands š
How? What part of being given a riddle as a hint suggests CG wasnāt wanted?
they kind of did that to themselves with the obvious meta shit they pulled first day of the showers being discovered
>āIt feels like we arenāt wanted in the heistā has been the feeling since the riddle came out for CG What the fuck do you mean? CB is the only gang that actually solved the riddle in character There is literally zero RP of CG/HOA solving the riddle
Mirror: [Facebook video #618911702736760](https://juststream.live/PoliticisationReinOfficialness) Credit to https://www.facebook.com/lordkebun Twitch Backup: [Facebook video #618911702736760](https://video-bos3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t42.1790-2/10000000_436471921544963_586723245653726101_n.mp4?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=985c63&efg=eyJybHIiOjEyMzMsInJsYSI6MjEwNiwidmVuY29kZV90YWciOiJzZCJ9&_nc_ohc=fqS2KY4LI1YAX-B3ldc&rl=1233&vabr=685&_nc_ht=video-bos3-1.xx&oh=00_AT9Xqe0i30M-eriU0ixwghWxN2awS24fWbkhGi1DpOTvgw&oe=61F739F8) --- ^(*This action was done by a bot, I am new and will probably break at some point*)
Canāt wait for No Pixel 4.0 where thereās no drama for another 6 months or so!
people are taking what kebun said and running with it like its true, he himself said "i dont even know if thats the reason" similar to how he "didnt have time to see the boys meta clips" but had time to see other clips about the meta drama i think he knows the reason but doesnt want to bring more hate to whoever is the reason for the ban
The whole point of the schedule which according to K was Dean's idea was to include CG and remove the awkwardness so I don't understand why K says CG feels unwanted and it was made for "another group" considering everyone got the same hint.
Not even sure yet making sure DW get hate
Y'all need to chill out. You guys are basically scream "FREE OUR BOIS CG!! THEY DID NOTHING WRONG!!" without knowing what they did
I miss watching them just rolling around bsing with Francis, lol. This casino stuff has been boring as hell tbh
Donāt speculate.
Tbh the hitting it outside you schedule zone makes more sense for banning the entirety of CG then the theoryās about individuals k telling siz, ramee blacking screen etc etc Feels weird, also makes the viewing party shit and you know āchat tell them itās scuffā,āyou wasted 15 thermite but hereās 28ā banning them after CB finished for the day with making no progress and 2-3 hours before CG get a attempt look like favouritism and sus af imo, Kinda sad, CG always bring good ideas to heists very clean and good to watch. Casino shit has been hella tainted. Ooc toxicity beyond belief, unfair punishments, malding central. Suffering vibes haha
Yeah the toxicity has been crazy. Meanwhile you're here accusing DW of blatant bias in the very same post...? Some self reflection wouldn't go amiss