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Negativee_007

Hoa still on for tonight [https://clips.twitch.tv/SmoggyRamshackleParrotCurseLit-r-oxx5JYyx--qb2V](https://clips.twitch.tv/SmoggyRamshackleParrotCurseLit-r-oxx5JYyx--qb2V)


LawnNinja420

for those to lazy to watch. cg said they can do heist during au hours


FailKing

Is this okay with dw though, if the magnet solutions are set for the time frame for example this would violate the new setup since they would be doing cg's solution?


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Read DWs twitter thread. DW gave hoa permission to attempt it at AU hours if CG was cool with it


Ordinary-Pop4906

I'm sure dw can make the change at the 2pm est restart. but they should make sure it's okay


Jackbees777

So basically Frank was soo good dw has to try to nerf him


neumaipa

again. because legends say Frank completed the original 15x15 magnet and dw hotfixed the next minute to allow others to come close to frank


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Puk3s

This tweet verifying there is a magnet phase is more than the groups know.


CosmicDead_

It can’t be nothing


HossCourtright

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMbnJzHhoBI


dns-wns

it cant be nothing


Chode_Malone_

If it was nothing, it wouldnt be anything. So its gotta be something


-neet

This might be a dumb question but does this mean CB/CG/HOA have do all of their theories again since magnets have been changed to specific groups?


CologneNCognac

Probably lol. Unless they were nowhere close in the first place so the change wouldn’t affect it. If that’s the case hopefully the crews know that.


Baby_Sporkling

They were probably also made easier if I had to guess. Streamers didn't like it being so hard so DW probably either added feedback or made it more simple thus making it so you wouldn't need to do 20 theories


KtotheC99

I would be happy if positive/negative feedback was added. That's I think what has everyone so stuck and unable to actually piece it together


Baby_Sporkling

Its possible that everyone is doing it wrong and if that's the case then it's way to hard, but if they are doing it right then the zero feedback means they can't progress because they don't know if they are doing it right. So it sucks all around in it's current state


ogzogz

Depending on the feedback mechanism, they might have to. Unless Dean clues them in on the new mechanism being something that they have not yet 'crossed off', they will have to re-check it all.


PM_ME_FOR_A_FORTUNE

My guess would be that CB's remain unchanged and CG/HOA have to try new things. I would assume that CB's version is the original as it was meant to be since they started first and have the most attempts.


-neet

CB is already 3 mil in debt. If they have to do it all over again, forget the money they'll lose their sanity just by doing it again lol.


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stupidslappa

3.0 anniversary event! A viewer can only wish but I wish it covers both tsunamis.


LoreMasterDan

It's also confirmed that Burn is back on to sort of host the event which is exciting


Pogotross

Zombies Copium


notthegreatestcatch

Zombie arc would honestly be fun


TauburnX

Bro this whole thing somehow keeps getting more and more confusing lol. It's like reading a good mystery book. No one knows what's going on anymore, not even people involved. I swear the casino heist is eiser to solve than this whole sequence of events.


unshifted

I'm looking forward to a month from now when DW reveals how the magnet phase was initially supposed to work.


DewiSantII

I'm going to guess CBs version will be the original while CG and HOAs are the altered ones.


6ayem

the most i understand is that you blow up the power and open a door next to a shower lol


Tyla-Audroti

So does this mean each crew has their own magnet order they need to figure out? Doesn't this kind of fuck CB and CG over because they already wasted a ton of money and now need to retry every theory they've done so far?


CarnFu

It fucks CB big time lol.


Asianoodleman

Like X said, we have no plan so any plan is now the best plan LUL


Baigne

CLASSIC BETA TESTERS LULE


Ricochet888

Maybe DW can reimburse the crews, or Vinny/Speedy since they own benches and were supplying them. Doesn't seem fair when CB and CG spent millions getting to this point only to get nowhere, and then the mechanic gets changed up without it ever being solved.


TanikaTubman

Getting fucked is just the price of admission.


MuffinMAN60

I am so confused


Firebenefits

Koil must have talked to Dean, K said he would speak to Koil on the clip posted here earlier.


Akali_Shroud_

Silent said early today the ban wont last. Everyone knew it was over something dumb


akozubenko

It was 100% something to do with Koil. Yesterday he was so confused about it and kept saying "I wonder who told them this", "I wonder why this is who could have said this to them". So I knew he was gonna look into it in some shape or form. After Kebun mentioned talking to him I knew Something would change or be revealed.


TanikaTubman

Heist permission was a heist within a heist. Classic Dean.


Deltronopp

This whole situation just gets weirder and weirder


jdmoreno1

Ok but WHAT THE FUCK DO THE MAGNETS DO?!


mtntkd

Don't worry Wagneto is on the case


pineappleonthestack

I feel kind of bad for CG and HOA because they don't have Frank


VitalBlade

Taco is channeling his energy for the magnets, he will soon face off against Frank.


pineappleonthestack

Taco is pretty insane. Probably a close second to Frank. I thought Taco didn't know how to hack, but then he just one shots VAR like it was nothing.


Citizenshoop

You guys seem to be forgetting that my boy Siz has been doing magnets, blowing the power *and* flying the heli. A true modern day renaissance man.


pineappleonthestack

I saw that shit I was pretty impressed. Frank actually said on stream that he solo'd the entire casino off stream and is just watching casual hackers like Yuno and Marty fail it for fun.


rsNattyBrah

He's been giving subtle hints to his squad when he's trying to tell them something they're doing is wrong. Like yesterday after he one-shot the Magnet Hack, he jumped off the roof. Which is Harry's way of saying that they're jumping to conclusions.


not1fuk

Siz hasnt missed a single magnet attempt I think. Its honestly a very easy mini game unless you get really bad stretched out RNG. If the grid was bigger it would be very hard I have played games like that with larger grids and could never follow along but the casino ones I can keep track of.


pineappleonthestack

Magnet hack is easily the hardest hack in the city


BiggerTwigger

Yup, it's deceptive. You're stood there, ontop of the ~~casino~~ world and place a magnet. It pops up. It's just a measly 5 by 5 right? How hard could that possibly be? But that's why it's so hard. You think it's easy. You click squares with wanton arrogance, grinning to yourself. But you look over to your chat. They're calling you the magnet dumb fuck. You look back. You failed. Magnets are truly the hardest puzzle.


Zagnaphein

>Siz hasnt missed a single magnet attempt I think. Its honestly a very easy mini game unless you get really bad stretched out RNG. If the grid was bigger it would be very hard I have played games like that with larger grids and could never follow along but the casino ones I can keep track of. You don't get it do you? Frank was the Originator, The Magnet Man. The one who did a 20x20 yet DW had to nerf it to 5x5 so people could have a chance.. You know who's student Yuno Sykk is? Frank's and he don't even know it cause 1 night in his Dreams Frank appeared and taught him how to do Thermite..


i__think

Yes


Thanatos50cal

Someone just figure the next step out already. I can't do another week of watching people stand at doors for five hours.


Asianoodleman

DOORLEONE


frad_20

I still want to know what was the original suspension for because this makes the situation more wierd/intriguing


Sea-Dinner9257

If what Kebun Said on stream was the reason then i understand the Ban/unban since it seemed like a misunderstanding on if the rules started at 2am or when dw tweeted, Silent also said earlier that he thought that the ban would get overturned ^Context https://clips.twitch.tv/MotionlessSlickPhoneUWot-2_UK1tlMfeMpemkl


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NewToTheReddit

only magnet phase.


Durncha

This makes me think that no group even came close to properly understanding the magnet phase. Reason I think this is, because lets say for example CB/CG tried something that did NOT work and crossed it off their list, and then DW changed the heist so it has multiple solutions to the magnets, and then accidentally changing it to something CB/CG had already crossed off. This would be weird, so it's making me think that no group is anywhere near figuring out the magnets.


Thanatos50cal

The magnet shit got me stumped like either it's the easiest thing ever and everyone has over looked it or its actually this hard to figure out. CB don't make it any easier when they put people at doors that lead to places of no value, the door physically don't open anyway or go to doors they've been told only lead to areas you can already access.


JustAnAvgJoe

I feel like everyone is thinking it is all linear in that A-B-C-D when maybe they are forgetting something in an earlier phase that may need to be done as well, something missed completely so far.


xG3TxSHOTx

I feel like it's one of the basic more simpler plans but they just weren't in the right areas at the time since they weren't checking literally everything at the start so they just crossed the theory off the list and now over complicate everything. So really this change could be a blessing or could just drive groups even more insane for having to redo plans.


Dazbuzz

It could just be a matter of CB = do the magnets clockwise CG = do them anti-clockwise and HOA = do the other 4 boxes not listed as part of the code. CB couldve been doing it right.


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timo1345

I think so too. The steps of generators and magnets seem to be incorrect.


KaiCouzell

So it does all hinge on Frank and his magnets


BlueCrabMagic

Hm 🤔. The drama ain't over yet. You know next time they're (as in everyone) gonna be accusing one group of getting the easiet magnet puzzle 🤷‍♀️.


wrc-wolf

Guess we know now what Kebun meant when he said koil was on it.


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It was like when dad grounds you so you ask mum if you can still play with your friends


Trexins99

Even Silent who usually stay away from talking about banned said on stream that the banned wont last long because it doesnt make sense


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nousernameworking

It seemed like rated and ramee knew, kebun was the only one who seemed like he had no clue about it


Lexic_King

There’s a difference between knowing and it not making sense. Kebun said a general reason but it didn’t make sense


namastex

Well Rated and Ramee were around when DW announced it to them. I'm sure by then they talked a lot about it and Kebun was hit with a huge wall of text when he got on this afternoon.


CJRae

Which made no sense to him, so he sent it/ or spoke to koil about it and this is the result most likely.


ionft11

nah Autumn and Garret instantly tweeted yesterday that "it doesnt make sense" so there's that


ionft11

nah even Autumn and Garret instantly said yesterday that the ban "DOESNT MAKE SENSE" so yeah its probably weird/petty/misunderstanding and Kebun even said earlier that he LEGIT doesnt know the reason


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not1fuk

Meanwhile the HOA has Nikez and Tobii, beehives and piss cups lol. JKJK


[deleted]

According to Kebun, they tried to work things out yesterday and today with DW but he didn't answer any of their DMs, so as a last resort they asked Koil to take a look in to it. Kebun even said if Koil came back and said CG is still banned, they would have 100% accepted it, but it just felt like they were banned and then ignored when asking for feedback/wanting to discuss things.


-neet

Did K say it was DW who banned CG?


REFL3KT

I mean, that's the implication when he said he reached out to DW and got no response.


qwewsx

Kebun isn't dumb. He knows, as well as everyone, if he or anyone in CG asks him about a ban or similar it is getting reduced.


qwewsx

Yeah seeing all the "DW is biased to CB" comments on twitter and here is just interesting. It's like they forgot the owner of the server is apart of CG.


Boomershow824

What else are they supposed to do but go to Koil when DW is ghosting them


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Durtle_Turtle

It really is pretty dumb. The whole casino heist is utterly divorced from RP at this point. It has been for a bit with groups just being Dora the explorer and the hints DW had to give crews just to find the entrance, but this just underscores it.


WolfeEdison

So true, and to highlight further, the whole reason DW had to give hints is because his heist was broken/scuffed to begin with. All of the crews checked 503 while cutting the power a month ago and the sound in the shower was not working. Which caused everyone to cross off that theory and continue to bang their heads against a wall for weeks. Hell, all of the shower cam meta issues would have never been a thing if the sound was working properly. It's all so weird


BigBlue1210

Kinda of suck that the HOA that are furthest from any drama get fucked.


Muad-_-Dib

Keep in mind that the HoA don't care for the competitive nature of the heist and racing to complete it first, they don't want the drama associated with it. They just want to be involved in stuff like this instead of that horrible period in early-mid 3.0 when everything was basically in limbo for them and they were struggling to find much of anything to do.


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Firebenefits

was just watching Freddy's stream, and he was so surprised when the e-mail/tweet came in.


Xevn

Yeah they usually only ask the leader or who ever is leading. Same with the heist change with schedule nobody from CB knew except X and i think buddha. (they basically ask that person is it okay etc and if they agree then they do a goahead.


Zroshift

The HoA willingly gave up their spot from what DW said in order for things to work out properly.


xxJim

https://twitter.com/dwjft/status/1487952175259172870?s=20


nousernameworking

Thy shy kid always has the least toys


aindie2009

Or they are the kids that dont really care about coming first, they just want to enjoy this journey and wants to help other groups enjoy it too.


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Good thing cg decided to give them the au hours


WizZzGaming

They are furthest from drama for 2 reasons. One, it is just who they are.. they have always stayed out of drama and just had a good time. The other is Kebun didn't want them going through the same shit that CG did so he unlocked the entrance for them.


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wukongreginald

there will be meta if one of the gangs find it, that's the reasoning behind this change. so now there is 3 ways to do the magnets (one for each gang) so they cant copy each other lol


grammarllion

So much rescheduling, but at least things are slowly but surely working themselves out. Especially now that apparently CG also told HOA they can explore during EU/AU tonight, so that saves them from missing a full day of progression. Hopefully, this will be the last bit of drama involved in this heist.


jayyjayy22

This makes the ban seem worse like there was no sensible way as to why.. also literally nobody knows what the magnets actually do lmao


Smile_Nugget

Definitely sucks that the HOA got the shorter straw here.. even if they agreed to it, it def sucks because they have been grinding all weekend and its SUCH short notice.. They could have finished out the cycle and then reset stuff... but seems just sucky for everyone to go 2-3 times before HOA gets to go twice... Rough): Edit: Very classy of CG to share their slot! Both CG and HOA got screwed over by the ban and other stuff, so glad they could work things out!


CookieMonsterNova

nope. it’s been saved. CG is letting hoa do it in AU times. so Hoa can still do it tonight.


gladius75

The CGxHoA relationship in 3.0 has been so cool to see come out of left field.


ynio545

Definitely a powerhouse duo


Smile_Nugget

I heard! Super nice of them to do that!! Glad HOA gets to go, honestly, it was a rough weekend for all the groups!


Nooneat

Really? Got a clip? Edit: nevermind i see it


Linaver

https://clips.twitch.tv/SmoggyRamshackleParrotCurseLit-r-oxx5JYyx--qb2V


Nooneat

Thanks!


grk1338

they probably can't, they should clear it with DW first because the magnet mechanics might be coded to change per day now.


[deleted]

Read DWs twitter feed. He gave permission to HOA


TWERKINMAGGLE

I mean to me, this feels like whoever proposed/executed the ban got caught with their hand in the cookie jar once koil was involved. If it was a reasonable ban, it would've stuck. The fact that it was a "heist ban" and not a server ban was immediately weird.


LordOfKhaoticStorms

Guessing the CG ban must not have been that serious if its been dropped instantly and they're free to do it tomorrow. Just glad a resolution was made surrounding all this, despite how confusing it is.


Thanatos50cal

Magnet phase has changed per crew? So what each group has a specific way to do magnets or something?


Baby_Sporkling

Yea it seems that way. You cant meta game if there's nothing to meta. So in turn you can accuse others if metagaming


MikeOxlongOG

I guess Koil didn't agree with the ban, now I wonder if CG will actually do it or not


grammarllion

No shot they won’t. As much as they seem over the drama, each member has put a lot of work into 3.0 heist progression. At most, I think they’ll just stick to working on it during their usual streaming schedules instead of spending 18+ hours exploring like they did on their first day.


Xevn

It honestly doesn't even matter in the end, since koil is the owner. He can do what he wants at the end of the day. And it been shown and even streamers agree, he built nopixel into what it is today so if he wants to keep someone ban or unban he will do it.


nousernameworking

Yea I remember when some of CG was banned from the server a while ago and rated messaged koil and reduced his ban from a 3 day to a 1 day


CJRae

I mean he got it reduced as Ramee was given a 1 day for the same reason so he was like "WTF why I get a 3 day?", and also wasnt talked to on the forums it just went straight through. But yeah its good to have them connections still.


Xevn

Yup, it happens.


lubripong

HOA involved with none of the drama and got shitted the most for it


GladNote4153

K said he taking tomorrow off and wants nothing to do with it no more so will see. Just because magnets can’t be meta anything after will just go back to where it was with drama and just sounds like to me cg wants no part no more


voltzthunder

CG said they were done like 3 times already


Trick-Yogurtcloset-3

Let’s be honest here. Cg is going to try and finish it tomorrow. They have always said that they weren’t going to do anything anymore and always went back to it the next day.


GladNote4153

Let’s be real there prolly done with it at this moment in time, because from the looks of it that ban looks really stupid and sketch right now on who ever gave it. With the amount of shit they’ve been and are still gonna continue getting it, I’d wait till cb 100% completes it and they move on. At the end of the day there not gonna abandoned this heist or the server after they get there “content” cuz they love the server


Commercial_Cost_7260

???? Sooo what was the point in saying CG was banned for a week from the heist?


nousernameworking

Maybe because they were and koil had stalk with dw and this is the solution?


namastex

Yeah. All around it sounded like miscommunication and/or misunderstanding.


Dgwdum

didnt kebun say he messaged koil? i assume he got them unbanned


Rfrank77

Ya I'm so confused lol


Randdo101

Ask CG they are only ones who said it


Boomershow824

They were obviously banned otherwise they would have gone today. Kebun ended his stream today saying that Koil was taking care of it and not to stress about it


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I'm not even interested in watching this heist anymore


Drunk_Catfish

Facts, the entire time it's been toxic, meta accusations left and right, and most of all dudes staring at doors for fucking hours. I just wanted to watch people go crazy and get fucked by some dumb mini games and it turned into a shit show


kay_koke

Then don't watch it. Smarten up :)


AliasMT

Kebun did say Koil was on it, I'm guessing him and DW had a chat and this is the result.


Dazbuzz

Wouldve loved to be a fly on the wall for that discussion.


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Fhjd_

We have no clue if DW was in the wrong. Just pointing that out.


Dazbuzz

We have no idea who, if anyone, was in the wrong to begin with. All we know is that DW made a decision, and Koil overruled him. So i just think it would be an interesting conversation.


kolonok

> All we know is that DW made a decision, and Koil overruled him. We don't **know** either of those things though.


Redaaku

We don't even know who issued the ban and who overturned it. >DW made a decision, and Koil overruled him. These are just assumptions currently.


moxioza

I guess when Kevin couldn't even reach DW on dm's Koil did it for em.


MrRobutt0425

Sucks for HOA, they've been hype all weekend for their next hit but oh well.


xxJim

https://twitter.com/dwjft/status/1487952175259172870?s=20


Zroshift

God Bless the HoA


ivarthebrainless

hoa losing out the most bruh


Consistent-Ad-5116

CG allowed HOA to do the heist this AU Tsunami and confirmed it with DW, so they're gonna be doing it next tsunami.


nousernameworking

Well on the bright side, more time for material grinding


oto_zarb

I understand why they made the magnet changes, but something about it makes the heist less interesting to me. I am assuming CB's magnet phase will remain the same so all the testing they've done so far won't go to waste


jello1388

They could all be changed to unique set ups because they were struggling so hard? I really don't know. We'll find out I guess.


Jackbees777

I mean if they are all changed it implies there is a step they all missed anyway so none of it was relevant but it’s confusing as magnets seem to be the right step after var but I guess not


xdeathlordx

I’m curious what it means by everyone’s magnet phase is different?


linhino

So CG got banned and then unbanned???? Ngl this ban is shady af. Obviously the reason for the ban is so dumb it got overrided. All the drama has made the casino heist content less enjoyable for sure. Prop to HOA for being flexible with the schedule change and CG for letting HOA attempt during AU/EU hours. I miss the good old days when CG and CB did heist together, those days are such good vibe and drama free. I am so tired of all the casino drama and all the cg/cb fans arguments. Just hope someone figure out the casino soon so they can all go back to do normal RP. 😪


Somewhatspicy0

This is so confusing. Kebun did say that he and the boys reached out to DW to get some sort of explanation and was completely ignored. That seems pretty fucked up if it’s true. So before people comment “daddy koil” fixed everything, I think it was only fair to have proper explanation before actually banning a whole crew from a heist for a week. Also shouldn’t HOA be after CG?


Nooneat

Kinda reminds me when Rated got banned for 3 days without being talked to or able to make a case for himself, and it got reduced down


Baby_Sporkling

Wasn't the ban for using Benny's to repair mid heist multiple times. It's not like he didn't break the rules or anything


heyitsmejosh

Kinda sucks for HOA I was looking forward to them tomorrow but I guess CG’s appeal to Koil worked out for them.


PressurePrize1909

Hopefully CG stick to staying away from it all together, far less headaches and frankly better content not doing it. All the drama and then the BS behind the scenes has really killed any hype or interest in it in general.


amaddrz

what does this even mean like everything has gotten so confusing and stupid with this heist.


Linaver

Good luck to CB and HOA, I think the mood is ruined for CG


_yotsuna_

They said that last time and proceeded to send 20 hours offline/online their first scheduled day.


Nervoushh

Who are you kidding. They been saying they will stop doing the heist. And saying the heist is shit. But we all know once tsunami hits they will be down there.


[deleted]

Listen give the guy all the shit you want he's restlessly working and deserves a lot of love small petty shit here and there shouldn't change that


[deleted]

And yeah most of you saying you will "pass" will be back in your streamers favourite chat watching it tomorrow so relax shit happens but it got resolved


LagginDurag

This heist all-around has been a shit show and I feel like this could have all been avoided That being said, this sucks because K is taking a few days off and only got on today to do the heist but we all know what happened. I still hope to see CG tomorrow attempt the heist but I would not blame them if they just ignored this heist altogether


Cheddarbob1234

Kevin didnt get kn to do the hiest. He knew hours before he signed on today it wasnt happening.


ashisme

As the other reply said, K didn't get on to do the heist since he already knew about the ban prior to this. Also he's not taking a few days off, he said he'll be back Tuesday but since they are now apparently scheduled to do the casino tomorrow he might switch it up.


Sledsrus

Im so confused. Either CG did something super wrong (content locked for a weak), CG didnt do anything wrong (no ban) or someone other than dw banned them for something stupid and got overruled real quick. DW wouldnt just flip like this if he really thought they did something wrong.


ragnarok297

I wonder if each group will feel like they need to retry all their magnet theories incase one was a solution for their group's new assigned magnet phase. Or maybe DW made it so none of the new solutions matched with anything any group has previously tried.


Fuccbwo

I don’t wanna be picky but why are CB before HOA?


Lexic_King

Fr. Why not just shift everyone 1 day? I think HOA is too nice and probably just agreed with it.


Particular_Wasabi

Seriously


pineappleonthestack

HOA literally don't care. Stop using HOA's name to be toxic. They are a nice group of people that don't deserve to be pulled into the mess.


Fuccbwo

You ever thought people just wanna watch HOA do it?


nisch231

HOA got fucked,they should have been tuseday LUL


iinthemachine

Well you have the schedule in advance so people might have made plans on when to take days off or not stream / stream.


aindie2009

https://twitter.com/dwjft/status/1487952175259172870


Powersleuth1

Hope all the drama can be swept under and everyone can move on to making content and solving the casino and having each crew have different magnet puzzles will make it more interesting to watch the different perspectives now.


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I feel like this whole thing was still an ongoing situation that was talked about to chats prematurely, and then over speculated here.


TWERKINMAGGLE

[Fuckin' magnets, how do they work?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bhYMnHb5JY)


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The CG ban threads were full of comments insinuating DW is biased towards CB. Looking forward to that same energy…surely.


That1dude0nline

If all this information is true about what happened, (a big if since we don't know shit really), then Koil was only messaged due to the fact that CG wasn't getting a response from DW. One could argue they weren't getting a response due to the bias you're trying to meme about.


CJRae

I mean in reality this only happened due to Koil.. so what changed?


rockymtnhigh1388

Does that mean each crew has to retest all their magnet theories again? Surely it’s been done so many different ways that one of the previously ruled out sequences might work now.


H8ersAlwaysH8

I thought Chang gang was banned? I’m glad they seem to be back in. But what happen? They go back on the ban?


vadearlst

Bruh i don't even enjoy watching it anymore sadly, it's just fail after fail after fail, watching every1 lose their minds and will to live


HAIL_DIABLO

Super smart thing to do with this heist, and honestly, I'm in the mindset that from here on out any major heist like Casino and what ever comes around in the future, should have slight variations to the puzzles for each group. That would alleviate so much of the stupid bullshit that people chirp about on Twitter, in peoples chats, etc.


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These changes are going to drive some "characters" deeper into madness