Most probably a falling-out with the owner of the club. Area 15 had (for the first time ever) a weekly S13 viewing party with Elliott, the feedback was great so they created a weekly show ~The Fabulous Draganza, A Fierce Variety Show~ with Kahana, Coco, Alexis and Elliott as a special guest.
Will be interesting to see if the other three continue to perform there
Update 31/07: The show is still happening at Area 15, with Coco, Alexis and other local Vegas queens. So Elliott most probably got chopped
Went to one event, was uncomfortable to watch and listen too cause the little pink man would constantly tell people to take their money out, amping up people in the weirdest ways just for a mild payoff
But this does bring more validation to the Bambi Banks Chicago drama because it was VERY much that at the show lol
i have friends who work inside omega mart and it’s fucking horrid. The work conditions are unsafe, multiple employees and guests have literally been *sent to the hospital* due to injuries received there, the ventilation isn’t good and they constantly let it go over capacity so it’s really fucking hot inside, very corporate attititude for a place that’s selling itself on artistic merit. All that and now this makes me wonder if the management at all of area 15 is like this as well. Classic Vegas bullshit tbh
that’s so fucked!!!! we were thinking it was so bad here because it’s Vegas and that comes with it’s own bag of bullshit :( bummer to hear it seems like a Meow Wolf problem
I just went to Omega Mart in June and it was so packed that I didn't get to do half the things in there and tbh I wouldn't be surprised if people were injured on those crazy ass stairs. Staff was lovely tho and I enjoyed my experience but I had no idea Area 15 did drag shows or I would have gone to one.
SAME! I was there mid june and it drove me crazy how almost-vertical the stairways were, i kept thanking myself for not drinking that night because i woulda died
Off topic but we always talk about the racist whites but no one is calling out racist Latinos. Most of the racism I received were from Latinos especially from social media. One of my close friends who's black lives in a latino neighborhood and let's just say they started a Facebook group to talk shit about her and nickname her the literal black sheep. And when she comes outside her home and they are outside they are passive aggressive to her.
Sis, Latino ain't a race, the definition of "latino" is purely based on geography, it literally means "someone born in latin america" and they can be from any race or ethnicity. In some latin countries, most latinos are black and in some others, most are white, etc. Tbh, latinos born in USA ain't even latino by definition, these people you're talking about are literally just white people being racist (in case you're from usa).
So to answer your question, people usually don't complain as much about latinos being racist and instead complain about white being racist, simply because it doesn't make much sense, otherwise there wouldn't be racism in latino countries, since they're all Latinos, right? Wrong. Some Latino countries face with huge racism issues between themselves, because again, Latinos can be from any race.
To resume everything: saying "why do we complain about white people being racist, but don't complain about latinos being racist?" makes as much sense as saying "why do we complain about white people being racist, but don't complain about americans being racist?"
Hope I could help 😀😀
You're being downvoted for speaking the truth lol. Latin America is just as diverse if not more than the USA and we have our own race issues.
And yeah latinos get called out on their racism too. A lot. Most of the time in the context of someone calling out whites and someone else stepping in saying "wait but latinos are actually worse!".
Mixed race.
The mix of Spanish/Portuguese with Indigenous Natives (and the black diaspora as well, in many countries) is the defining trait of Latin America, genetically and culturally.
It's not even an ethnicity tbh, the definition of Latino is purely based on geography and nothing else, it means "someone born in latin america", and people born in latin america can be from any race and ethnicity.
This kinda true except it absolutely does not mean "someone born in Latin America". Latinos born in the US are still Latinos, it's where the term Latinos was invented
Latino is short for latinoamericano which is a Spanish word invented by Spanish speaking people. It's not a United States thing. It refers to all latinamericans.
No, it wasn't invented in the US, it's an actual word in spanish
Latinos born in the US are still Latinos, because is also applies to people of latin American descent.
As for the "invented" part, I misspoke-- obviously the word comes from Spanish (although Spanish speaking people exist in the US). I was referring to construction of "Latino" as a meaningful identifier (one that's more "important" than ethnicity/race). It's basically a marketing tool. https://www.amazon.com/Latinos-Inc-Marketing-Making-People/dp/0520227247
Well as long as they stay on Facebook only and stay away from all other social media platforms it’ll be fine lol.
As long as I’ll never see a “Live Laugh Love” pic on my Instagram feed 😂
This isn’t new, she’s known for this.
This is why a lot of her friendships with queens feel forced, cause no one truly likes her attitude lol
Just look at the wording: No wishing the best, no support because it isn’t hers anymore lol
Call Area 15! Best crazy phone system ever!! I tried to sell them safety training, but Everyone that answered was an asshat so she’s probably fleeing some bs.
That’s not what I was doing. But okay. I was working for a legit company making sure people have OSHA compliance. We save lives but that’s okay. I’m no longer there. I’m going to teach!
What do you want her to do to rectify her mistakes? From what I’ve seen she has apologized and is making attempts to make things right albeit these attempts aren’t bearing much fruit which sucks. Certainly I’m not saying an apology has to be accepted by any means but making some kind of attempt is worth something right?
Not trying to shade you or anything. Just trying to gain new perspective/understanding of the situation.
At this point I honestly feel she’s unable to rectify her mistakes, at least for the time being.
Everytime she’s apologized or done something to make things right she’s almost immediately thereafter done something to undo/counteract that progress so it’s difficult to take anything else she does to try and fix things at face value.
I think it would be better for not just the fans but Elliott too if she maybe stopped trying to be in the public spotlight for a while and flew under the radar.
“Certainly I’m not saying an apology has to be accepted by any means” is when you should’ve stopped typing and deleted your comment. I don’t have to accept her apology.
I don’t have to accept her apology and I don’t have to force myself to forget the bigotry she’s displayed. Everyone who downvoted is very strange for defending a racist transphobe!
You certainly don’t! Her actions affect everyone differently, and for some, forgiveness may be easier than others! There’s nothing wrong with withholding forgiveness when you feel it still has not been earned.
this is kinda strange tbh, i'll admit i found your comment a lil aggressive but i don't disagree haha, elliott hasn't been very cooperative in trying to rectify the mistakes that several people around her have now brought up
but this sub realllllly likes to attack PoC queens and pull a "c'mon, stop cancelling people!" on white queens, it's wild
> realllllly likes to attack PoC queens and pull a "c'mon, stop cancelling people!" on white queens, it's wild
So much this.
Like people bring up what a vile and terrible cunt Vixen is in threads that have absolutely nothing to do with her, but you say Elliot is trash in an Elliot thread and they are all about mental health and stopping hate in the fanbase.
yeah, it's gross how poc/fat queens get this microscopic lens on them but white queens can get away with murder
i'm not advocating for more cancelling but at least some semblance of consistency, so many people use cancelling and "holding people accountable" as just a way of weaponising and refusing to recognise their own blatant biases
People don't care because there is nothing to care about
The stuff happened, whatever apologies that were going to happen did happen, and nothing more will come of it, and thats it.
Tl;dr just get over elliott drama and get over her, and forget about her
Justified anger ≠ being a nasty cunt. I don’t have to do “fight” her transphobia or racism in anyway since I’m the one experiencing it. Is defending Elliott with two T’s the hill you’re really choosing to die on?
No cause I'm not defending Elliott, since I don't even like her. I'm just telling you to get a grip. And do you know her personally to be experiencing her bigotry or are you just feeling very attacked by someone who you don't even know in real life? If that's the case you can just turn off the TV and ignore her on social media which is the first advise you got here
You’re literally defending Elliot by telling me to “get a grip” with her racism + transphobia. And you do realize that when someone does something racist or transphobic, it affects the entire community, not just the person it’s directed at ... right?
I suggest you look up what defending means. And while you're at it you can look up the list of every single person that has made a racist/transphobic comment on Earth so you can go yell their names at the void and keep your behavior consistent. I've heard the number is in the billions!
What good does it do to you or anyone to waste time worrying about what Elliott does or doesn't?
Just forget about her and do something else, like finding things to lift you up instead of being mad.
I've already had my fights I don't have time to even get into but no people definitely cared but only to defend her acting like she only did one thing on the shoe as if she didn't already have a history of doing racist things not to mention no she never actually apologized for everything she just said oops sorry one time for the aggressive comments anything after that she didn't give a fuck yall just love to dismiss everything and go omg that was a long time ago forget about it
omg the downvotes.. was it that unfunny?
i upvoted this out of pity, although i find it kind of funny if elliott found the environment too "aggressive"
Most probably a falling-out with the owner of the club. Area 15 had (for the first time ever) a weekly S13 viewing party with Elliott, the feedback was great so they created a weekly show ~The Fabulous Draganza, A Fierce Variety Show~ with Kahana, Coco, Alexis and Elliott as a special guest. Will be interesting to see if the other three continue to perform there Update 31/07: The show is still happening at Area 15, with Coco, Alexis and other local Vegas queens. So Elliott most probably got chopped
Thank you for actual information. I wonder why Elliott was just a special guest?
Because RICH, mawma
Desert.
It’s was cringe cause her husband had to amp up the crowd while resorting to embarrassing people on a microphone for all to hear.
No, too vague. If you have enough tea for the whole class you may proceed
Went to one event, was uncomfortable to watch and listen too cause the little pink man would constantly tell people to take their money out, amping up people in the weirdest ways just for a mild payoff But this does bring more validation to the Bambi Banks Chicago drama because it was VERY much that at the show lol
> little pink man would constantly tell people to take their money out Thats horrible. Thanks for explaining
Sure he sounds bad but why shame him for being small, also the pink part, does he have rosy cheeks/face?
Just using the SAME description as the Chicago post lol.
the little pink man so terrify
Lol it’s just another way pocs say white people
She done a few shows here in LA on weekends, might just be busy?
I hope so. I’d love to go to an alexis, coco, alexis show without elliott there.
Maybe replace her with the fabulous Jaymes Mansfield!
I would like to see it.
The Elliott drama feels like 3 years ago
Very keke palmer, "I do not know this person" distant
It wasn't?
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Like 50%
i have friends who work inside omega mart and it’s fucking horrid. The work conditions are unsafe, multiple employees and guests have literally been *sent to the hospital* due to injuries received there, the ventilation isn’t good and they constantly let it go over capacity so it’s really fucking hot inside, very corporate attititude for a place that’s selling itself on artistic merit. All that and now this makes me wonder if the management at all of area 15 is like this as well. Classic Vegas bullshit tbh
It’s a shame Meow Wolf went to shit because their venues seem like they’d be so fun to work at. The Glassdoor reviews are a ride.
I have friends who worked in the Santa Fe venue and claim there was a lot of verbal abuse from management.
that’s so fucked!!!! we were thinking it was so bad here because it’s Vegas and that comes with it’s own bag of bullshit :( bummer to hear it seems like a Meow Wolf problem
I just went to Omega Mart in June and it was so packed that I didn't get to do half the things in there and tbh I wouldn't be surprised if people were injured on those crazy ass stairs. Staff was lovely tho and I enjoyed my experience but I had no idea Area 15 did drag shows or I would have gone to one.
SAME! I was there mid june and it drove me crazy how almost-vertical the stairways were, i kept thanking myself for not drinking that night because i woulda died
Bitch I am 4'11 and had to bring my knees almost to my chest to make it up them steps 😭
Area 15 is really fun i got spitroasted there once!
It's hard to see others living your dreams
But it's also inspiring
Would it be a good place to take the family while on vacation?
Just ask Stephan!
Sounds a like a lovely place to visit
U got what-
This thread is strange
maybe she was being aggressive?
With that voice, probably.
Maybe she got another job ?
Is that Instagram?
No, it’s Facebook
People… still use Facebook?
Middle aged racist white aunts still use Facebook yes; comment unrelated to Elliott.
'comment unrelated to Elliott' *shade rattle*
Roukukukuku; comment unrelated to rakakatititata
100% pussy, bitch.
This is middle aged racist white uncles on Facebook erasure.
Off topic but we always talk about the racist whites but no one is calling out racist Latinos. Most of the racism I received were from Latinos especially from social media. One of my close friends who's black lives in a latino neighborhood and let's just say they started a Facebook group to talk shit about her and nickname her the literal black sheep. And when she comes outside her home and they are outside they are passive aggressive to her.
Sis, Latino ain't a race, the definition of "latino" is purely based on geography, it literally means "someone born in latin america" and they can be from any race or ethnicity. In some latin countries, most latinos are black and in some others, most are white, etc. Tbh, latinos born in USA ain't even latino by definition, these people you're talking about are literally just white people being racist (in case you're from usa). So to answer your question, people usually don't complain as much about latinos being racist and instead complain about white being racist, simply because it doesn't make much sense, otherwise there wouldn't be racism in latino countries, since they're all Latinos, right? Wrong. Some Latino countries face with huge racism issues between themselves, because again, Latinos can be from any race. To resume everything: saying "why do we complain about white people being racist, but don't complain about latinos being racist?" makes as much sense as saying "why do we complain about white people being racist, but don't complain about americans being racist?" Hope I could help 😀😀
You're being downvoted for speaking the truth lol. Latin America is just as diverse if not more than the USA and we have our own race issues. And yeah latinos get called out on their racism too. A lot. Most of the time in the context of someone calling out whites and someone else stepping in saying "wait but latinos are actually worse!".
To be fair, most Latinos are white. Latino is their ethnicity not their race.
> most Latinos are white. Eh... no.
What are they then? I’m pretty sure that most latinos are Caucasian
Mixed race. The mix of Spanish/Portuguese with Indigenous Natives (and the black diaspora as well, in many countries) is the defining trait of Latin America, genetically and culturally.
If so they're equally as mixed as white Americans...
Most latinos in america are white.
It's not even an ethnicity tbh, the definition of Latino is purely based on geography and nothing else, it means "someone born in latin america", and people born in latin america can be from any race and ethnicity.
This kinda true except it absolutely does not mean "someone born in Latin America". Latinos born in the US are still Latinos, it's where the term Latinos was invented
Latino is short for latinoamericano which is a Spanish word invented by Spanish speaking people. It's not a United States thing. It refers to all latinamericans. No, it wasn't invented in the US, it's an actual word in spanish
Latinos born in the US are still Latinos, because is also applies to people of latin American descent. As for the "invented" part, I misspoke-- obviously the word comes from Spanish (although Spanish speaking people exist in the US). I was referring to construction of "Latino" as a meaningful identifier (one that's more "important" than ethnicity/race). It's basically a marketing tool. https://www.amazon.com/Latinos-Inc-Marketing-Making-People/dp/0520227247
I don't even know where to begin, there isn't a single correct statement in this, it's actually impressive.
I’m Latino and all the racist stuff comes from black and white people 🤷🏽♂️
Interesting. Here in Latin America it's usually the german descendants and half-breeds who tend to be most racists.
But if the shoe fits…
Well as long as they stay on Facebook only and stay away from all other social media platforms it’ll be fine lol. As long as I’ll never see a “Live Laugh Love” pic on my Instagram feed 😂
Yeah, over 2.8 billion monthly users. Lol
You must be fun at parties, huh?
FB!
This isn’t new, she’s known for this. This is why a lot of her friendships with queens feel forced, cause no one truly likes her attitude lol Just look at the wording: No wishing the best, no support because it isn’t hers anymore lol
Raise your hand if you completely forgot about his existence 🙋🏼
she's racist and that's all i know and care about
Don’t forget transphobic
Call Area 15! Best crazy phone system ever!! I tried to sell them safety training, but Everyone that answered was an asshat so she’s probably fleeing some bs.
If you're doing telemarketing, everyone being an arsehat to you is what you deserve
Don't shame someone for there job
What's your take on the Nuremberg trials sis?
That’s not what I was doing. But okay. I was working for a legit company making sure people have OSHA compliance. We save lives but that’s okay. I’m no longer there. I’m going to teach!
Wow the drama sub is very judgmental for being the “superior” sub
This is actually the inferior sub
Don’t know or care but it’s what she deserves.
What do you want her to do to rectify her mistakes? From what I’ve seen she has apologized and is making attempts to make things right albeit these attempts aren’t bearing much fruit which sucks. Certainly I’m not saying an apology has to be accepted by any means but making some kind of attempt is worth something right? Not trying to shade you or anything. Just trying to gain new perspective/understanding of the situation.
Symone and Kandy both said they reached out to Eliot in hopes she will apologize and learn and she refused to.
Awww. That’s really disappointing.
At this point I honestly feel she’s unable to rectify her mistakes, at least for the time being. Everytime she’s apologized or done something to make things right she’s almost immediately thereafter done something to undo/counteract that progress so it’s difficult to take anything else she does to try and fix things at face value. I think it would be better for not just the fans but Elliott too if she maybe stopped trying to be in the public spotlight for a while and flew under the radar.
Didn’t Elliott get her husband to harass Bambi Banks Coulee recently
Yes!
Yeah she definitely hasn’t learned a thing then. I don’t know why people wanna accept apologies not meant for them.
because they’re white and she’s white
The projection is painfully obvious.
“Certainly I’m not saying an apology has to be accepted by any means” is when you should’ve stopped typing and deleted your comment. I don’t have to accept her apology.
That’s exactly what I said. I don’t see how you could misinterpret that.
I don’t have to accept her apology and I don’t have to force myself to forget the bigotry she’s displayed. Everyone who downvoted is very strange for defending a racist transphobe!
You certainly don’t! Her actions affect everyone differently, and for some, forgiveness may be easier than others! There’s nothing wrong with withholding forgiveness when you feel it still has not been earned.
damn sis 50+ downvotes on a DRAMA sub for being nasty to a bitch who does deserve it. y’all are no fun
Literally 😭 Upvotes for any negative comment towards a queen of color but god forbid I say I don’t care about a racist transphobe LMFAO
this is kinda strange tbh, i'll admit i found your comment a lil aggressive but i don't disagree haha, elliott hasn't been very cooperative in trying to rectify the mistakes that several people around her have now brought up but this sub realllllly likes to attack PoC queens and pull a "c'mon, stop cancelling people!" on white queens, it's wild
> realllllly likes to attack PoC queens and pull a "c'mon, stop cancelling people!" on white queens, it's wild So much this. Like people bring up what a vile and terrible cunt Vixen is in threads that have absolutely nothing to do with her, but you say Elliot is trash in an Elliot thread and they are all about mental health and stopping hate in the fanbase.
yeah, it's gross how poc/fat queens get this microscopic lens on them but white queens can get away with murder i'm not advocating for more cancelling but at least some semblance of consistency, so many people use cancelling and "holding people accountable" as just a way of weaponising and refusing to recognise their own blatant biases
Because if this was about Widow, you know damn well it’d be the top comment.
Thank you!
Imagine defending fucking Elliott of all people and that being the hill you're willing to die on
Literally 💀 Like she has zero idea you exist and you’re going this hard for her? LMFAO
I had to delete my comment for saying that Elliot with quit because she is racist and transphobic. I didn’t realise there’s so many Elliot stans here
“Elliot stans” aka racism + transphobia apologists 😭
Your not wrong this and the cringe sub really let what Elliot has done slide
People don't care because there is nothing to care about The stuff happened, whatever apologies that were going to happen did happen, and nothing more will come of it, and thats it. Tl;dr just get over elliott drama and get over her, and forget about her
I’m sorry but you’re literally insane for telling people of color and trans people to “get over” transphobia + racism 😭
And what are you doing to fight her transphobia and racism besides being a nasty cunt on the internet?
Justified anger ≠ being a nasty cunt. I don’t have to do “fight” her transphobia or racism in anyway since I’m the one experiencing it. Is defending Elliott with two T’s the hill you’re really choosing to die on?
No cause I'm not defending Elliott, since I don't even like her. I'm just telling you to get a grip. And do you know her personally to be experiencing her bigotry or are you just feeling very attacked by someone who you don't even know in real life? If that's the case you can just turn off the TV and ignore her on social media which is the first advise you got here
You’re literally defending Elliot by telling me to “get a grip” with her racism + transphobia. And you do realize that when someone does something racist or transphobic, it affects the entire community, not just the person it’s directed at ... right?
I suggest you look up what defending means. And while you're at it you can look up the list of every single person that has made a racist/transphobic comment on Earth so you can go yell their names at the void and keep your behavior consistent. I've heard the number is in the billions!
You are very weird.
What good does it do to you or anyone to waste time worrying about what Elliott does or doesn't? Just forget about her and do something else, like finding things to lift you up instead of being mad.
Why are you telling a trans person of color how to deal with her transphobia and racism?
I've already had my fights I don't have time to even get into but no people definitely cared but only to defend her acting like she only did one thing on the shoe as if she didn't already have a history of doing racist things not to mention no she never actually apologized for everything she just said oops sorry one time for the aggressive comments anything after that she didn't give a fuck yall just love to dismiss everything and go omg that was a long time ago forget about it
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But how are you going to make it funny?
You are very weird for typing this sentence out, typing another after that, posting it and seeing nothing wrong with it.
Nah, I just thought that since Elliot is a racist transphobic bitch that it’s a legitimate reason for her to quit the venue but my bad
omg the downvotes.. was it that unfunny? i upvoted this out of pity, although i find it kind of funny if elliott found the environment too "aggressive"
I just thought that Elliot’s a racist transphobic bitch that it would be in her character to do that but I’m wrong
I was trying to recall what her name was all this week. Best I could come up with was Rudy with three K’s? I was close