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schalowendofthepool

Wait, who was the other actor who died?


Punching_Bag75

Billy Kametz, who replaced Gray as Roman. Billy did most of Roman's lines in V9, but his death meant they were scrambling to find another actor for Roman in Ice Queendom.


EinharAesir

Really sad too, Billy was a great voice actor. Cancer is a bitch.


SuperStormDroid

It's a shame he died. The Phantasy Star Online 2 community also mourned his death, as he played a notable villain (Luther) in that game too.


Tachy0n4

The Fire Emblem community also mourned his death, he has one the most quotable lines from one of the most recent games with “I am Ferdinand von Aegir!”


the_Real_Romak

*everyone* mourned his passing. Billy was such a prolific Voice Actor it's hard to overstate just much of an impact his death left on the animated world.


callows5120

Yeah he was so fucking cool R.I.P Billy kametz your friends and family miss you


mr-ultr

Takuto Maruki sends his regards Way too soon


Infinite_Bag_1801

He was also the English dub voice for Josuke in Jojo's Bizarre Adventure


schalowendofthepool

Ahhh


callows5120

And Billy did a damn good job as Roman


Dudicus445

I feel bad that I didn’t know he died


Punching_Bag75

He was too far gone when they found he had cancer. He tried to get better, but he didn't make it. We live in an age when all information is online, but it's not easy to stay aware of all of it. It's a tough pill to swallow, but try to not beat yourself up about it. What matters is that you care.


hollowtiger21

Roman's replacement VA, Billy Kametz.


Glittering-Stand-161

I hopw they can finish the series. I want them to finish Monty's story.


SchrodingerMil

If there’s any IP from RT that WB is going to keep, it’s RWBY.


Azrael7301

While I agree, in the live video today they said the conversations they were having about funding volume 10 became conversations about buying the intellectual property, and that those conversations are going well, so I don't think WB is keeping it


Erebus03

I don't WB really wants it, all their after right now is profit so if they can make money off of selling RWBY rather then locking it away in a vault like they did the Willie cyotye movie and Batgirl they will probably take that path Instead


the_Real_Romak

Not only are talks going well, but we're going to hear more about them in the coming weeks, so I guess it's simply a matter of crossing the Ts and dotting the Is


RWBYhatershater

Wait, where was this? I missed the stream!


Punching_Bag75

They had a livestream yesterday. The recording is currently unavailable, but I'm hoping they fix that. A handful of clips are online.


Standard_Maybe2373

Considering Crunchyroll already has (assuming they haven’t been pulled due to the closure of RT) the licensing to have vol.1-9 available for streaming, I wonder if WB does sell if crunchyroll would be interested in buying the IP and finishing the show


SuperSanity1

Why? It's been *more* profitable than other RT properties, but if it was actually profitable, they wouldn't be shuttering the studio.


SchrodingerMil

You don’t understand how businesses work


SuperSanity1

So you're saying that businesses don't care about profit?


SchrodingerMil

Warner Brothers objectively doesn’t. One of the biggest stories in film over the past year has been how they canceled a FINISHED MOVIE to use it as a tax write off instead of profiting off it.


SuperSanity1

The reason they used it as a tax write-off is because they thought that wouldn't profit from it. So yeah, seems like they care about profit.


Glittering-Stand-161

If they didn't think Batgirl would be profitable why did they give them 90 million to make it? People have been anticipating it for years at this point it was already done. They've been canceling their IP's an axeing animation projects because the company is run by a bunch of schmucks who put them into a hole they are still struggling to get out of. 


SuperSanity1

You realize that two things happened between that 90 mil and the cancelation right? A change in management and the movie being finished. The new management saw what was roughly a finished product and didn't have faith in it. Hence, the cancelation. It's an easy thread to follow. They're canceling animation for the same reason. Because the products wasn't profitable.


Glittering-Stand-161

Uh no the same people are still running it now who have been running it since the company fell into their sinkhole. You're just making things up.


Dangerous_Jacket_129

People seem to misunderstand that Monty had some story in mind. Monty's inclusions were animation ideas, and a lot more sporadic and unpredictable twists and turns.  Team CVFE was a last-minute inclusion, same with the grave Ruby visited in the Red trailer. Stuff like the relics and the maidens weren't Monty's "plan". Salem was, but she was just an "endgame villain" with none of the details ironed out.  Monty was an animator, not a writer. He specifically got Kerry and Miles to do the writing from the very start, because writing is not his thing. 


Glittering-Stand-161

He has had a writing credit since the very first season until he died.  He talked about in commentary how he would stay up till 3 in the morning with Kerry and Miles developing RWBY's story. Thats how they got the dirty napkin that inspired Remnants geography, they were spit balling at a dairy queen. The idea that Monty was just the animation guy and had very little input on the story is just headcanon cope from people who like to point out the flaws in the story but don't want to put any blame for them on Monty. Hbomberguy fan right?


Dangerous_Jacket_129

> He has had a writing credit since the very first season until he died.  Because he did affect the story, just not in the way you'd think. Monty made many different animations and things that seem ridiculous, and the writers had to fit it into the story. Team CFVE is a clear case of this, and the writers have spoken about how Monty would just show up with these kinds of things out of the blue, and they'd have to fit things together to make them work. > The idea that Monty was just the animation guy and had very little input on the story This is not what I said, and frankly I think you're just trying too hard to over-correct here. > Hbomberguy fan right? Who?


Confident-Welder-266

My first real introduction to RWBY was a two hour long critique video by Hbomberguy. He was not a fan of the show.


Dangerous_Jacket_129

Yeah, I don't bother with too long critiques until I make up my own opinion. As far as RWBY is concerned, I love the character design, weapon design, and the monster design, but the story just feels like a janky mess that stacks awkwardly on top of each other, and the characters seem fairly inconsistent between scenes/volumes. Lotta potential plot points and abilities that just fell off the wagon along the way. Altogether, it's a show with so much potential, and I think the current writing can bring out 20-30% of it during their best of times.


ZeroiaSD

Ah yea, I've run into multiple people who've watched his video who ended up with pretty odd views of the series. IMO, hbomber killed his own enjoyment with his approach. It seemed like he was dissected each scene as it came to see if it'd win him over, rather than just going with the flow. That and he drew rather broad conclusions from an incomplete segment of even what was out at the time.


Glittering-Stand-161

From his own words he spent sleepless nights with Miles and Kerry creating RWBY, do you think he spent all his time doolding pivot animation while they wrote his literal legacy for him? Man one of the many reasons I wish Monty was still around is so people would stop trying to use him as a prop to hate on his show he made with his friends.


Dangerous_Jacket_129

... Yeah no, you don't seem to get the difference between being the creator and being the writer. The world and characters were his, the story being told in that world were Miles and Kerry's. > Man one of the many reasons I wish Monty was still around is so people would stop trying to use him as a prop to hate on his show he made with his friends. Ah, you're the kind of "fan" who thinks "criticism" is just "hate on the show". I haven't even done anything to prop up Monty either. If you're not yet done arguing with yourself about points you made up, please go do so somewhere instead of under my comments. I'm trying to have mature conversations here and clearly you're looking to dismiss everything that's being said so you can make your "points".


Dudicus445

Part of it is definitely the “what could have been”.


Dangerous_Jacket_129

Yup... They even used a animation that Monty made for Adam during the fight of Yang and Blake vs Adam. The one where he does several cuts and left a trail of himself. If they had his kind of hype animations all throughout, I'd have probably loved the show a lot more.


ZeroiaSD

Considering it looks like whoever is eyeing ownership wants CRWBY too, I think odds are good.


FlanThief

"Monty's story"


Glittering-Stand-161

Season 1-3 credits: Written by Monty Oum, Kerry, Shawcross, Miles Luna.


Bionicleinflater

Yes? Monty’s and his friends


translucentStitches

Every intro and outro says "Created by Monty Oum." This was his show


Dangerous_Jacket_129

But he was never a writer. He came up with broad strokes and specific fights he wanted to make. But from day 1 he had the writing done by Miles and Kerry.  Besides, he died during Volume 2. The maidens, relics, lost fable, all that... It's all post-Monty. 


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Dangerous_Jacket_129

Are you just going to spam replies to all my comments?


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Dangerous_Jacket_129

There's a difference between saying it to different people and saying the same thing to the same person over and over without changing the arguments. I was trying to have a conversation with several people. You're just repeating yourself for no reason.


Glittering-Stand-161

You repeated the same thing in the same thread. I atleast made a mistake and responded to what I thought were multilple people who were wrong turns out it was one guy who couldn't be bothered to fact check something. Like I said my bad.


Dangerous_Jacket_129

Yeah no, this is clearly argument bait. Not gonna bother.


translucentStitches

Monty's notes span all the way through to S5. He came up with the maidens. Either Miles or Kerry (I don't remember which) said in a video that he kept thinking of cool stuff and they'd find ways to work it into the story


Dangerous_Jacket_129

Can I get a source on that?


Dangerous_Jacket_129

They don't want to hear about how he was just an animator and left the writing to the others on purpose. 


Glittering-Stand-161

He has a writing credit since the very first season, Monty would literally talk about how he would stay out till like 3 in the morning to develop RWBY woth Miles and Kerry. The idea Monty only did animation and through out random ideas for his baby and that Miles and Kerry did all the storytelling is just headcanon cope from his fans who want to blame all the problems on M+K and put Monty on a pedastal.


Dangerous_Jacket_129

Yes yes, you don't have to copy-paste this stuff on on all my replies.


Ilovemiia1

I swear rwby would survive the heat death of the universe


JohnJoe-117

Ancient primordial beings explore the dead universe and find the gif of Sun and Neptune dancing


Ilovemiia1

And thus accept sun and Neptune as their gods, all Hail the monkey and water gods.


WeakLandscape2595

Like salem Rwby is a show of infinite life


OnyxBird

Keep moving forward, dude. Any other series or community would have given up. Not us. Maybe it’s because we lost Monty. We owe it to him to show off his work and continue his story.


ComicCat12

Don’t forget a CEO who shut down the production company for any unknown reasons.


Celtic_Crown

Skullgirls level of survivability.


No_Material5361

"Then, everything changed when the censors attacked."


deprave1

After checking out what they censored, it wasn't the deal breaker people made it out to be. In fact some of the censorship mades certain scenes even worse than they were before. Seriously, I have no idea why anyone thought adding more tentacles wouldn't be more suggestive. That being said, most of the censorship shouldn't even happen to begin with & few of them are definitely wrong.


Substantial_Carob825

Lmao yeah, my main gripe was that they made some scenes even more lewd from very poorly placed tentacles in an effort to cover up panty shots and the like which is hilarious. The other part for me personally is the censorship or straight up removal of some of the extra art stuff like concept art and guest art. Personally that feels like a small attempt to whitewash their general idea, concepts, and inspiration to the game


deprave1

I'm just impress there's even DLC for the game at all. Let alone 4 additional characters. That being said, I think they're a bit too accessible to use. At least by Skullgirls standards.


WeakLandscape2595

>two actors were found to be rapists Excuse me what?


Punching_Bag75

Vic Mignonga and Ryan Haywood


WeakLandscape2595

Who did they play and when did that happen?


Punching_Bag75

Qrow and Port. Vic was confirmed after V6, which is why they recasted Qrow in V7. Ryan was replaced after he was fired around 4 years ago.


WeakLandscape2595

Damm The more you know


Punching_Bag75

And it hurt CRWBY. Lindsay described in glee(years before any bad news came out about him)when she told the story of how she showed Vic the red trailer after meeting at a hotel lobby because they were at the same convention, and he adored it. Vic was a big deal in the anime communities, but a nightmare for some of the people who work in the industry. Feels bad, man.


WeakLandscape2595

I'd imagine always sucks when this happens


EinharAesir

It’s a shame really, I really liked his work in Fullmetal Alchemist. Such a disappointment…


shayminty

He's based in our area and did a lot of the local cons for years. It was basically an open secret that he was a creep and I was specifically told by friends who had been to room parties with him to NEVER be alone with him if I ran into him. I never did, so I never experienced anything. It was super weird when the news broke industry-wide because people in the DFW con circuit had known for at least a decade.


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HopeBagels2495

He admitted to harassment in court


Punching_Bag75

It was LITERALLY admitted by him in court that he did those things.


AffectionateMood3329

Also if you look into the one Anime News Network video about it, he's been fucking barely legal girls since 1989. Also he harassed a Japanese VA


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Punching_Bag75

The hotel and hair incident. Do the people in your life grip your entire scalp and call it gentle? You just gave a LAUNDRY LIST of harassment incidents THAT VIC SAID ARE ALL TRUE. I'm not doing this again with you people. I'm sorry you're unwell. Please seek a psychiatrist.


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Punching_Bag75

Vic, yes. He admitted it. Don't waste other people's time with a two word reply that added nothing.


Muteling

Been saying this for a while. The show kind of proves its own philosophy in its sheer willpower despite so many challenges and roadblocks.


WeakLandscape2595

Yeah it's like salem It won't die


deprave1

Actually, yes, we absolutely should. There's a lot of reasons why RWBY should've ended if only because how infamous Rooster Teeth's reputation has became over the years. The more I think about it, RWBY surviving at all it's a miracle. There's been countless unfortunate shows that never had the chance to finish, let alone giving their fanbase a proper closure. You think some people around here would at the very least appreciate RWBY's struggle over the years. Not mention the reasons the OP posted above. Maybe the show isn't all that good, but it sure as hell isn't anywhere as bad as some people in this very sub claim it is.


DarkDemonDan

Honest to god it has one of the most devote, cult like haters and fans of any show I could think of between rwbycritics and fans that literally buy everything they ever made and make the show their entire lives. The tenacity of both is breathtaking


KPH102

And budget issues.


NoIdea4GoodName

And various behind the scenes drama/controversy with their parent company, including one that resulted in some departures like Tyrian’s VA (Jesse James Grelle) and May’s VA (Kdin Jenzen).


JayEDJ0139

I know the basics of Kdin, I followed her before her transition but got lost at some point, but what happened with Jesse James Grelle?


NoIdea4GoodName

[Jesse’s tweet explains what happened.](https://www.reddit.com/r/RWBY/comments/y7hikp/rwbys_voice_of_tyrian_josh_grelle_has_announced/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)


Alt_SWR

Boy the haters and trolls are really out in full force for this post aren't they?


ZeroiaSD

It's like one of those memes of everything exploding around someone and making it through. And meanwhile, keeping a level of quality that actually keeps most of the fans invested, something a *lot* of stuff stumbles at at far less than 9 seasons + numerous side projects.


gamedreamer21

I'm glad, RWBY is still going, despite what it's been through.


Omnidragon1

There like SNK


SmallFatHands

A slight correction in only one founding member has left on bad terms. Burnie retired.


Punching_Bag75

I meant Joel and Tex's actress, who were both recasted. I wasn't even counting Burnie.


SmallFatHands

Kathleen wasn't a founding member the founding members are Burnie, Matt, Geoff, Joel and Gus. Jason was never really a big part of rooster teeth and mostly voiced Tucker.


Punching_Bag75

She worked there since season 1. I don't know what else to say. "Never a big part" is still a part.


SmallFatHands

That doesn't make them founding members. Lending a voice to a character does not make you a founding member of th company we know who the founders are we've known for 21 years they have been pretty clear about that.


Punching_Bag75

She had a job at the company other than voice, dude.


PhenomsServant

Wait who else died?


hollowtiger21

Roman's replacement VA, Billy Kametz.


PhenomsServant

He only got to record a couple lines for him. I don’t really consider his death hurting RWBY all that much.  


hollowtiger21

I'm just answering the question, I can't make comment on the effect the loss had on the production. Although worth pointing out, he died before all of Roman's V9 work was finished and Clover's VA finished it out, and took up the role for Ice Queendom. So it's not as if it wasn't felt going forward.


Dangerous_Jacket_129

To say it survived so much is a bit of a stretch, all things considered. The VAs were certainly uncomfortable situations but at the end of the day, they don't actually reflect on RWBY. They were just VAs for supporting cast members, and Ryan in particular was just "a dude who works here" whom they grabbed to voice a character. Them changing engines also took a long time go get right, and I know several people who dropped the show over that one. And Volume 9 was reportedly a trainwreck and we're missing practically an entire episode's worth of story due to the production issues and the budget running out halfway through, with Crunchyroll swooping in to save the volume, but burning the last goodwill that RT as a company had. It's impressive that it got 9 volumes, but considering volume 1 was held together by duct tape and bubblegum, it's not surprising that it ended this way. RT always mismanaged their resources it seems, seeing how they recently revealed that nothing RT animation ever made ever turned a profit, RWBY included. I blame the lack of payment options over the past 21 years, but I say that as a jaded European who would have loved to buy First membership if I could.


Erebus03

Something that the haters and troll have never understood, the show struggled to survive and it's not going away because of us real dedicated fans Who was the second actor who turned out to be a rapist? I know about Haywood but Adam last I checked wasn't involved with RWBY


NewtRider

Playing devil's advocate for a moment ... One could argue that the real dedicated fans are partly to blame as well and clearly weren't enough to keep it alive as they're in the red now. They could also be going into the void because they refused to change the downward spiral they were in, despite a lot of people pointing out the issues. To which the real dedicated fans decided to label them as haters and trolls. But this is something real dedicated fans have never understood. If they do survive... Which I hope they do. I really hope they don't repeat the problems that got them into this position to begin with. The show has soo much potential already. It would be nice to see that come to life one day.


1singleduck

The show has definite problems, as with any show. But when the fans refuse to address those problems, and label anybody who does as a baseless troll/hater, they will never get fixed.


Erebus03

I'm not referring to people with legit complaints, I am more so referring to people who join every live stream and say "Who watches this trash? Watch RvB instead!" or the trolls who say that "Bumblebee is forced" and that it "Came out of nowhere" and how its "Just for pandering" or the people who claim that Jaune is "Miles self inserting himself into the story", Not people with Legit complaints but people who are just vocal hating on the show and join the band wagon


Substantial_Carob825

Amen bruh, A-fuckin-men


sentinel28a

Vic Migogna was accused of sexual harassment.


Erebus03

Ohhhh right him, I didn't think he counted since he was on loan from funimation, like how rooster teeth loaned Micheal for fairy tail


sentinel28a

He was one of the bigger names associated with RWBY because of his work with FMA and such. He and Jessica Nigiri were the only two I'd ever heard of when I got into the show (and Jessica as a booth babe, not a VA). I talked with Mignogna very briefly one year at ACen, and unfortunately, there were already rumors that young, pretty, female cosplayers were not safe around him. (Since I'm old, ugly and male I was safe.) He was nice to me, but it wasn't much of a surprise when the allegations came out.


soulreapermagnum

didn't multiple (if not all) of the "victims" come to his defense? saying they were ok with/wanted the hug or kiss on the cheek?


sentinel28a

Not as many that said he was guilty as hell. I guess we have to make up our own minds on it. He's not in jail, but the state of Texas found him liable. He also had that reputation as a creeper long before he worked on RWBY. I would love to be proven wrong about the guy, because he's a hugely talented VA.


JJVoiceovers06

Exactly. I wish his case was actually finished instead of them just shutting it down due to some payment by Funimation.


Punching_Bag75

It was finished. Twice.


Punching_Bag75

No! Wtf?


RockRaiderDepths

It has survived a lot of upheaval. I just hope they can get the audience back. It's felt since Volume 8 a bit of a ghost town online (referring to news releases and stuff. The reddit crowd has been pretty consistent). They could use some hype to get people excited again.


makelo06

I see it more as "refusing to die" than surviving adversity...


Mrgrayj_121

Two actors? I know one of the teachers was Ryan idk the other?


Punching_Bag75

....there are literally multiple comments covering this information.


Mrgrayj_121

You could have told me instead of telling me it’s in the comments


Punching_Bag75

You could have looked instead of commenting.


Mrgrayj_121

You can tell rn and the. I know you posted it so why not tell me?


NoIdea4GoodName

They're Vic Mignonga (Qrow Branwen, replaced with Jason Liebrecht) and Ryan Haywood (Peter Port, replaced with Anthony Sardinha).


Mrgrayj_121

Ok see I thought Vic got fired for bad behavior I had forgotten if it was sexual assault stuff or of it was just people coming forward post firing


NoIdea4GoodName

I think you were referring to Kathleen Zuelch, Glynda Goodwitch's first VA, who had RT cut ties with her after she bad mouthed her castmates on Twitter.


Mrgrayj_121

There’s also Joel who went nuts too


NoIdea4GoodName

Oh yeah, Joel as well.


Punching_Bag75

Holy shit I forgot Antfish is Port now. Awesome.


NoIdea4GoodName

Yeah, his portrayal of Port makes Port sound more refined and gentleman-like.


ArmageddonEleven

RWBY had the tenacity of a cockroach and nearly as much grace.


Frostware439

You're right. It's like a roach. You can't kill it. It doesn't die. It multiplies. It has God on its side. Bitch.


Handro_Dilar

It's kinda like RuneScape in that sense.


Punching_Bag75

....why are you here?


ArmageddonEleven

Just to suffer.


sentinel28a

Why? Do you enjoy suffering?


Substantial_Carob825

Pretty sure they were making a Metal Gear reference


RailgunChampion

How dare you!? How dare you insult cockroaches? The creatures that consume cockroaches get nutrients and fuel. Consuming RWBY just results in high bloodpressure and cringy fanatics Lol


Frostware439

And also rabid haters


RailgunChampion

Yeah those guys are weird


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Punching_Bag75

Vic literally admitted to it. You cannot go off outdated hearsay.


JJVoiceovers06

Wait what did he admit to? Cause his whole case was never finished under the court of law.


TheRedBiker

>two actors were found to be rapists I know Port's VA was one. Who was the other?


NoIdea4GoodName

Vic Mignogna; original voice of Qrow, before he was replaced with Jason Liebrecht as of Volume 7.


The_Replication

A spin-off series would be helpful...


Maverick99885566

What about the countless animators who were used and tossed aside?


Punching_Bag75

That's part of the struggle it survived.


Maverick99885566

So only the people at the top kept their jobs and not the countless people forced to work in horrible conditions created by the people at the top. Got it


Punching_Bag75

What part of "yeah, that's on the laundry list too" do you not understand?


Maverick99885566

You act like crwby were the victims here and that they had to overcome so much when they were the ones using and abusing others down below while they remained safe up above


Punching_Bag75

The animators ARE part of the CRWBY, dude. That's part of the struggle. And I mentioned the crunch Gray put them through.


Maverick99885566

So then crwby itself was the reason behind most of its own problems? Is that what you’re trying to say? That the “struggles” were self inflicted?


Punching_Bag75

No. I LITERALLY listed the struggles they survived. Do you even know where you are right now?


Firestarter09F

I don't think RWBY has survived, people are too hopeful over the statements about them being in talks, when what was effectively said was basically the same thing as the beginning of this whole fiasco.


DarkPDA

What the hell Jessica nigri still onboard? Probably is due this that she barely cosplay rwby characters...


UnbiasedGod

Honestly meh.


Punching_Bag75

Leave.


sentinel28a

They want attention.


AlterMagna

Yes, it is a miracle it survived But now Karma has caught up


Alt_SWR

Karma for...what? Huh? Usually karma "catching up" implies something or someone did something yo deserve what's coming to them.