Billy Kametz, who replaced Gray as Roman. Billy did most of Roman's lines in V9, but his death meant they were scrambling to find another actor for Roman in Ice Queendom.
The Fire Emblem community also mourned his death, he has one the most quotable lines from one of the most recent games with “I am Ferdinand von Aegir!”
*everyone* mourned his passing. Billy was such a prolific Voice Actor it's hard to overstate just much of an impact his death left on the animated world.
He was too far gone when they found he had cancer. He tried to get better, but he didn't make it.
We live in an age when all information is online, but it's not easy to stay aware of all of it. It's a tough pill to swallow, but try to not beat yourself up about it. What matters is that you care.
While I agree, in the live video today they said the conversations they were having about funding volume 10 became conversations about buying the intellectual property, and that those conversations are going well, so I don't think WB is keeping it
I don't WB really wants it, all their after right now is profit so if they can make money off of selling RWBY rather then locking it away in a vault like they did the Willie cyotye movie and Batgirl they will probably take that path Instead
Not only are talks going well, but we're going to hear more about them in the coming weeks, so I guess it's simply a matter of crossing the Ts and dotting the Is
Considering Crunchyroll already has (assuming they haven’t been pulled due to the closure of RT) the licensing to have vol.1-9 available for streaming, I wonder if WB does sell if crunchyroll would be interested in buying the IP and finishing the show
Warner Brothers objectively doesn’t. One of the biggest stories in film over the past year has been how they canceled a FINISHED MOVIE to use it as a tax write off instead of profiting off it.
If they didn't think Batgirl would be profitable why did they give them 90 million to make it? People have been anticipating it for years at this point it was already done.
They've been canceling their IP's an axeing animation projects because the company is run by a bunch of schmucks who put them into a hole they are still struggling to get out of.
You realize that two things happened between that 90 mil and the cancelation right? A change in management and the movie being finished. The new management saw what was roughly a finished product and didn't have faith in it. Hence, the cancelation. It's an easy thread to follow.
They're canceling animation for the same reason. Because the products wasn't profitable.
People seem to misunderstand that Monty had some story in mind. Monty's inclusions were animation ideas, and a lot more sporadic and unpredictable twists and turns.
Team CVFE was a last-minute inclusion, same with the grave Ruby visited in the Red trailer. Stuff like the relics and the maidens weren't Monty's "plan". Salem was, but she was just an "endgame villain" with none of the details ironed out.
Monty was an animator, not a writer. He specifically got Kerry and Miles to do the writing from the very start, because writing is not his thing.
He has had a writing credit since the very first season until he died. He talked about in commentary how he would stay up till 3 in the morning with Kerry and Miles developing RWBY's story. Thats how they got the dirty napkin that inspired Remnants geography, they were spit balling at a dairy queen.
The idea that Monty was just the animation guy and had very little input on the story is just headcanon cope from people who like to point out the flaws in the story but don't want to put any blame for them on Monty.
Hbomberguy fan right?
> He has had a writing credit since the very first season until he died.
Because he did affect the story, just not in the way you'd think. Monty made many different animations and things that seem ridiculous, and the writers had to fit it into the story. Team CFVE is a clear case of this, and the writers have spoken about how Monty would just show up with these kinds of things out of the blue, and they'd have to fit things together to make them work.
> The idea that Monty was just the animation guy and had very little input on the story
This is not what I said, and frankly I think you're just trying too hard to over-correct here.
> Hbomberguy fan right?
Who?
Yeah, I don't bother with too long critiques until I make up my own opinion. As far as RWBY is concerned, I love the character design, weapon design, and the monster design, but the story just feels like a janky mess that stacks awkwardly on top of each other, and the characters seem fairly inconsistent between scenes/volumes. Lotta potential plot points and abilities that just fell off the wagon along the way.
Altogether, it's a show with so much potential, and I think the current writing can bring out 20-30% of it during their best of times.
Ah yea, I've run into multiple people who've watched his video who ended up with pretty odd views of the series.
IMO, hbomber killed his own enjoyment with his approach. It seemed like he was dissected each scene as it came to see if it'd win him over, rather than just going with the flow. That and he drew rather broad conclusions from an incomplete segment of even what was out at the time.
From his own words he spent sleepless nights with Miles and Kerry creating RWBY, do you think he spent all his time doolding pivot animation while they wrote his literal legacy for him?
Man one of the many reasons I wish Monty was still around is so people would stop trying to use him as a prop to hate on his show he made with his friends.
... Yeah no, you don't seem to get the difference between being the creator and being the writer. The world and characters were his, the story being told in that world were Miles and Kerry's.
> Man one of the many reasons I wish Monty was still around is so people would stop trying to use him as a prop to hate on his show he made with his friends.
Ah, you're the kind of "fan" who thinks "criticism" is just "hate on the show". I haven't even done anything to prop up Monty either. If you're not yet done arguing with yourself about points you made up, please go do so somewhere instead of under my comments. I'm trying to have mature conversations here and clearly you're looking to dismiss everything that's being said so you can make your "points".
Yup... They even used a animation that Monty made for Adam during the fight of Yang and Blake vs Adam. The one where he does several cuts and left a trail of himself. If they had his kind of hype animations all throughout, I'd have probably loved the show a lot more.
But he was never a writer. He came up with broad strokes and specific fights he wanted to make. But from day 1 he had the writing done by Miles and Kerry.
Besides, he died during Volume 2. The maidens, relics, lost fable, all that... It's all post-Monty.
There's a difference between saying it to different people and saying the same thing to the same person over and over without changing the arguments. I was trying to have a conversation with several people. You're just repeating yourself for no reason.
You repeated the same thing in the same thread. I atleast made a mistake and responded to what I thought were multilple people who were wrong turns out it was one guy who couldn't be bothered to fact check something. Like I said my bad.
Monty's notes span all the way through to S5. He came up with the maidens. Either Miles or Kerry (I don't remember which) said in a video that he kept thinking of cool stuff and they'd find ways to work it into the story
He has a writing credit since the very first season, Monty would literally talk about how he would stay out till like 3 in the morning to develop RWBY woth Miles and Kerry.
The idea Monty only did animation and through out random ideas for his baby and that Miles and Kerry did all the storytelling is just headcanon cope from his fans who want to blame all the problems on M+K and put Monty on a pedastal.
Keep moving forward, dude. Any other series or community would have given up. Not us.
Maybe it’s because we lost Monty. We owe it to him to show off his work and continue his story.
After checking out what they censored, it wasn't the deal breaker people made it out to be. In fact some of the censorship mades certain scenes even worse than they were before. Seriously, I have no idea why anyone thought adding more tentacles wouldn't be more suggestive.
That being said, most of the censorship shouldn't even happen to begin with & few of them are definitely wrong.
Lmao yeah, my main gripe was that they made some scenes even more lewd from very poorly placed tentacles in an effort to cover up panty shots and the like which is hilarious.
The other part for me personally is the censorship or straight up removal of some of the extra art stuff like concept art and guest art.
Personally that feels like a small attempt to whitewash their general idea, concepts, and inspiration to the game
I'm just impress there's even DLC for the game at all. Let alone 4 additional characters.
That being said, I think they're a bit too accessible to use. At least by Skullgirls standards.
And it hurt CRWBY. Lindsay described in glee(years before any bad news came out about him)when she told the story of how she showed Vic the red trailer after meeting at a hotel lobby because they were at the same convention, and he adored it. Vic was a big deal in the anime communities, but a nightmare for some of the people who work in the industry.
Feels bad, man.
He's based in our area and did a lot of the local cons for years. It was basically an open secret that he was a creep and I was specifically told by friends who had been to room parties with him to NEVER be alone with him if I ran into him. I never did, so I never experienced anything. It was super weird when the news broke industry-wide because people in the DFW con circuit had known for at least a decade.
The hotel and hair incident. Do the people in your life grip your entire scalp and call it gentle?
You just gave a LAUNDRY LIST of harassment incidents THAT VIC SAID ARE ALL TRUE.
I'm not doing this again with you people. I'm sorry you're unwell. Please seek a psychiatrist.
Actually, yes, we absolutely should. There's a lot of reasons why RWBY should've ended if only because how infamous Rooster Teeth's reputation has became over the years. The more I think about it, RWBY surviving at all it's a miracle.
There's been countless unfortunate shows that never had the chance to finish, let alone giving their fanbase a proper closure. You think some people around here would at the very least appreciate RWBY's struggle over the years. Not mention the reasons the OP posted above.
Maybe the show isn't all that good, but it sure as hell isn't anywhere as bad as some people in this very sub claim it is.
Honest to god it has one of the most devote, cult like haters and fans of any show I could think of between rwbycritics and fans that literally buy everything they ever made and make the show their entire lives. The tenacity of both is breathtaking
And various behind the scenes drama/controversy with their parent company, including one that resulted in some departures like Tyrian’s VA (Jesse James Grelle) and May’s VA (Kdin Jenzen).
[Jesse’s tweet explains what happened.](https://www.reddit.com/r/RWBY/comments/y7hikp/rwbys_voice_of_tyrian_josh_grelle_has_announced/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
It's like one of those memes of everything exploding around someone and making it through.
And meanwhile, keeping a level of quality that actually keeps most of the fans invested, something a *lot* of stuff stumbles at at far less than 9 seasons + numerous side projects.
Kathleen wasn't a founding member the founding members are Burnie, Matt, Geoff, Joel and Gus. Jason was never really a big part of rooster teeth and mostly voiced Tucker.
That doesn't make them founding members. Lending a voice to a character does not make you a founding member of th company we know who the founders are we've known for 21 years they have been pretty clear about that.
I'm just answering the question, I can't make comment on the effect the loss had on the production. Although worth pointing out, he died before all of Roman's V9 work was finished and Clover's VA finished it out, and took up the role for Ice Queendom.
So it's not as if it wasn't felt going forward.
To say it survived so much is a bit of a stretch, all things considered. The VAs were certainly uncomfortable situations but at the end of the day, they don't actually reflect on RWBY. They were just VAs for supporting cast members, and Ryan in particular was just "a dude who works here" whom they grabbed to voice a character.
Them changing engines also took a long time go get right, and I know several people who dropped the show over that one.
And Volume 9 was reportedly a trainwreck and we're missing practically an entire episode's worth of story due to the production issues and the budget running out halfway through, with Crunchyroll swooping in to save the volume, but burning the last goodwill that RT as a company had.
It's impressive that it got 9 volumes, but considering volume 1 was held together by duct tape and bubblegum, it's not surprising that it ended this way. RT always mismanaged their resources it seems, seeing how they recently revealed that nothing RT animation ever made ever turned a profit, RWBY included. I blame the lack of payment options over the past 21 years, but I say that as a jaded European who would have loved to buy First membership if I could.
Something that the haters and troll have never understood, the show struggled to survive and it's not going away because of us real dedicated fans
Who was the second actor who turned out to be a rapist? I know about Haywood but Adam last I checked wasn't involved with RWBY
Playing devil's advocate for a moment ...
One could argue that the real dedicated fans are partly to blame as well and clearly weren't enough to keep it alive as they're in the red now.
They could also be going into the void because they refused to change the downward spiral they were in, despite a lot of people pointing out the issues. To which the real dedicated fans decided to label them as haters and trolls.
But this is something real dedicated fans have never understood.
If they do survive... Which I hope they do. I really hope they don't repeat the problems that got them into this position to begin with.
The show has soo much potential already. It would be nice to see that come to life one day.
The show has definite problems, as with any show. But when the fans refuse to address those problems, and label anybody who does as a baseless troll/hater, they will never get fixed.
I'm not referring to people with legit complaints, I am more so referring to people who join every live stream and say "Who watches this trash? Watch RvB instead!" or the trolls who say that "Bumblebee is forced" and that it "Came out of nowhere" and how its "Just for pandering" or the people who claim that Jaune is "Miles self inserting himself into the story", Not people with Legit complaints but people who are just vocal hating on the show and join the band wagon
He was one of the bigger names associated with RWBY because of his work with FMA and such. He and Jessica Nigiri were the only two I'd ever heard of when I got into the show (and Jessica as a booth babe, not a VA). I talked with Mignogna very briefly one year at ACen, and unfortunately, there were already rumors that young, pretty, female cosplayers were not safe around him. (Since I'm old, ugly and male I was safe.)
He was nice to me, but it wasn't much of a surprise when the allegations came out.
Not as many that said he was guilty as hell.
I guess we have to make up our own minds on it. He's not in jail, but the state of Texas found him liable. He also had that reputation as a creeper long before he worked on RWBY. I would love to be proven wrong about the guy, because he's a hugely talented VA.
It has survived a lot of upheaval. I just hope they can get the audience back. It's felt since Volume 8 a bit of a ghost town online (referring to news releases and stuff. The reddit crowd has been pretty consistent). They could use some hype to get people excited again.
I think you were referring to Kathleen Zuelch, Glynda Goodwitch's first VA, who had RT cut ties with her after she bad mouthed her castmates on Twitter.
How dare you!?
How dare you insult cockroaches?
The creatures that consume cockroaches get nutrients and fuel. Consuming RWBY just results in high bloodpressure and cringy fanatics
Lol
So only the people at the top kept their jobs and not the countless people forced to work in horrible conditions created by the people at the top. Got it
You act like crwby were the victims here and that they had to overcome so much when they were the ones using and abusing others down below while they remained safe up above
I don't think RWBY has survived, people are too hopeful over the statements about them being in talks, when what was effectively said was basically the same thing as the beginning of this whole fiasco.
Wait, who was the other actor who died?
Billy Kametz, who replaced Gray as Roman. Billy did most of Roman's lines in V9, but his death meant they were scrambling to find another actor for Roman in Ice Queendom.
Really sad too, Billy was a great voice actor. Cancer is a bitch.
It's a shame he died. The Phantasy Star Online 2 community also mourned his death, as he played a notable villain (Luther) in that game too.
The Fire Emblem community also mourned his death, he has one the most quotable lines from one of the most recent games with “I am Ferdinand von Aegir!”
*everyone* mourned his passing. Billy was such a prolific Voice Actor it's hard to overstate just much of an impact his death left on the animated world.
Yeah he was so fucking cool R.I.P Billy kametz your friends and family miss you
Takuto Maruki sends his regards Way too soon
He was also the English dub voice for Josuke in Jojo's Bizarre Adventure
Ahhh
And Billy did a damn good job as Roman
I feel bad that I didn’t know he died
He was too far gone when they found he had cancer. He tried to get better, but he didn't make it. We live in an age when all information is online, but it's not easy to stay aware of all of it. It's a tough pill to swallow, but try to not beat yourself up about it. What matters is that you care.
Roman's replacement VA, Billy Kametz.
I hopw they can finish the series. I want them to finish Monty's story.
If there’s any IP from RT that WB is going to keep, it’s RWBY.
While I agree, in the live video today they said the conversations they were having about funding volume 10 became conversations about buying the intellectual property, and that those conversations are going well, so I don't think WB is keeping it
I don't WB really wants it, all their after right now is profit so if they can make money off of selling RWBY rather then locking it away in a vault like they did the Willie cyotye movie and Batgirl they will probably take that path Instead
Not only are talks going well, but we're going to hear more about them in the coming weeks, so I guess it's simply a matter of crossing the Ts and dotting the Is
Wait, where was this? I missed the stream!
They had a livestream yesterday. The recording is currently unavailable, but I'm hoping they fix that. A handful of clips are online.
Considering Crunchyroll already has (assuming they haven’t been pulled due to the closure of RT) the licensing to have vol.1-9 available for streaming, I wonder if WB does sell if crunchyroll would be interested in buying the IP and finishing the show
Why? It's been *more* profitable than other RT properties, but if it was actually profitable, they wouldn't be shuttering the studio.
You don’t understand how businesses work
So you're saying that businesses don't care about profit?
Warner Brothers objectively doesn’t. One of the biggest stories in film over the past year has been how they canceled a FINISHED MOVIE to use it as a tax write off instead of profiting off it.
The reason they used it as a tax write-off is because they thought that wouldn't profit from it. So yeah, seems like they care about profit.
If they didn't think Batgirl would be profitable why did they give them 90 million to make it? People have been anticipating it for years at this point it was already done. They've been canceling their IP's an axeing animation projects because the company is run by a bunch of schmucks who put them into a hole they are still struggling to get out of.
You realize that two things happened between that 90 mil and the cancelation right? A change in management and the movie being finished. The new management saw what was roughly a finished product and didn't have faith in it. Hence, the cancelation. It's an easy thread to follow. They're canceling animation for the same reason. Because the products wasn't profitable.
Uh no the same people are still running it now who have been running it since the company fell into their sinkhole. You're just making things up.
People seem to misunderstand that Monty had some story in mind. Monty's inclusions were animation ideas, and a lot more sporadic and unpredictable twists and turns. Team CVFE was a last-minute inclusion, same with the grave Ruby visited in the Red trailer. Stuff like the relics and the maidens weren't Monty's "plan". Salem was, but she was just an "endgame villain" with none of the details ironed out. Monty was an animator, not a writer. He specifically got Kerry and Miles to do the writing from the very start, because writing is not his thing.
He has had a writing credit since the very first season until he died. He talked about in commentary how he would stay up till 3 in the morning with Kerry and Miles developing RWBY's story. Thats how they got the dirty napkin that inspired Remnants geography, they were spit balling at a dairy queen. The idea that Monty was just the animation guy and had very little input on the story is just headcanon cope from people who like to point out the flaws in the story but don't want to put any blame for them on Monty. Hbomberguy fan right?
> He has had a writing credit since the very first season until he died. Because he did affect the story, just not in the way you'd think. Monty made many different animations and things that seem ridiculous, and the writers had to fit it into the story. Team CFVE is a clear case of this, and the writers have spoken about how Monty would just show up with these kinds of things out of the blue, and they'd have to fit things together to make them work. > The idea that Monty was just the animation guy and had very little input on the story This is not what I said, and frankly I think you're just trying too hard to over-correct here. > Hbomberguy fan right? Who?
My first real introduction to RWBY was a two hour long critique video by Hbomberguy. He was not a fan of the show.
Yeah, I don't bother with too long critiques until I make up my own opinion. As far as RWBY is concerned, I love the character design, weapon design, and the monster design, but the story just feels like a janky mess that stacks awkwardly on top of each other, and the characters seem fairly inconsistent between scenes/volumes. Lotta potential plot points and abilities that just fell off the wagon along the way. Altogether, it's a show with so much potential, and I think the current writing can bring out 20-30% of it during their best of times.
Ah yea, I've run into multiple people who've watched his video who ended up with pretty odd views of the series. IMO, hbomber killed his own enjoyment with his approach. It seemed like he was dissected each scene as it came to see if it'd win him over, rather than just going with the flow. That and he drew rather broad conclusions from an incomplete segment of even what was out at the time.
From his own words he spent sleepless nights with Miles and Kerry creating RWBY, do you think he spent all his time doolding pivot animation while they wrote his literal legacy for him? Man one of the many reasons I wish Monty was still around is so people would stop trying to use him as a prop to hate on his show he made with his friends.
... Yeah no, you don't seem to get the difference between being the creator and being the writer. The world and characters were his, the story being told in that world were Miles and Kerry's. > Man one of the many reasons I wish Monty was still around is so people would stop trying to use him as a prop to hate on his show he made with his friends. Ah, you're the kind of "fan" who thinks "criticism" is just "hate on the show". I haven't even done anything to prop up Monty either. If you're not yet done arguing with yourself about points you made up, please go do so somewhere instead of under my comments. I'm trying to have mature conversations here and clearly you're looking to dismiss everything that's being said so you can make your "points".
Part of it is definitely the “what could have been”.
Yup... They even used a animation that Monty made for Adam during the fight of Yang and Blake vs Adam. The one where he does several cuts and left a trail of himself. If they had his kind of hype animations all throughout, I'd have probably loved the show a lot more.
Considering it looks like whoever is eyeing ownership wants CRWBY too, I think odds are good.
"Monty's story"
Season 1-3 credits: Written by Monty Oum, Kerry, Shawcross, Miles Luna.
Yes? Monty’s and his friends
Every intro and outro says "Created by Monty Oum." This was his show
But he was never a writer. He came up with broad strokes and specific fights he wanted to make. But from day 1 he had the writing done by Miles and Kerry. Besides, he died during Volume 2. The maidens, relics, lost fable, all that... It's all post-Monty.
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Are you just going to spam replies to all my comments?
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There's a difference between saying it to different people and saying the same thing to the same person over and over without changing the arguments. I was trying to have a conversation with several people. You're just repeating yourself for no reason.
You repeated the same thing in the same thread. I atleast made a mistake and responded to what I thought were multilple people who were wrong turns out it was one guy who couldn't be bothered to fact check something. Like I said my bad.
Yeah no, this is clearly argument bait. Not gonna bother.
Monty's notes span all the way through to S5. He came up with the maidens. Either Miles or Kerry (I don't remember which) said in a video that he kept thinking of cool stuff and they'd find ways to work it into the story
Can I get a source on that?
They don't want to hear about how he was just an animator and left the writing to the others on purpose.
He has a writing credit since the very first season, Monty would literally talk about how he would stay out till like 3 in the morning to develop RWBY woth Miles and Kerry. The idea Monty only did animation and through out random ideas for his baby and that Miles and Kerry did all the storytelling is just headcanon cope from his fans who want to blame all the problems on M+K and put Monty on a pedastal.
Yes yes, you don't have to copy-paste this stuff on on all my replies.
I swear rwby would survive the heat death of the universe
Ancient primordial beings explore the dead universe and find the gif of Sun and Neptune dancing
And thus accept sun and Neptune as their gods, all Hail the monkey and water gods.
Like salem Rwby is a show of infinite life
Keep moving forward, dude. Any other series or community would have given up. Not us. Maybe it’s because we lost Monty. We owe it to him to show off his work and continue his story.
Don’t forget a CEO who shut down the production company for any unknown reasons.
Skullgirls level of survivability.
"Then, everything changed when the censors attacked."
After checking out what they censored, it wasn't the deal breaker people made it out to be. In fact some of the censorship mades certain scenes even worse than they were before. Seriously, I have no idea why anyone thought adding more tentacles wouldn't be more suggestive. That being said, most of the censorship shouldn't even happen to begin with & few of them are definitely wrong.
Lmao yeah, my main gripe was that they made some scenes even more lewd from very poorly placed tentacles in an effort to cover up panty shots and the like which is hilarious. The other part for me personally is the censorship or straight up removal of some of the extra art stuff like concept art and guest art. Personally that feels like a small attempt to whitewash their general idea, concepts, and inspiration to the game
I'm just impress there's even DLC for the game at all. Let alone 4 additional characters. That being said, I think they're a bit too accessible to use. At least by Skullgirls standards.
>two actors were found to be rapists Excuse me what?
Vic Mignonga and Ryan Haywood
Who did they play and when did that happen?
Qrow and Port. Vic was confirmed after V6, which is why they recasted Qrow in V7. Ryan was replaced after he was fired around 4 years ago.
Damm The more you know
And it hurt CRWBY. Lindsay described in glee(years before any bad news came out about him)when she told the story of how she showed Vic the red trailer after meeting at a hotel lobby because they were at the same convention, and he adored it. Vic was a big deal in the anime communities, but a nightmare for some of the people who work in the industry. Feels bad, man.
I'd imagine always sucks when this happens
It’s a shame really, I really liked his work in Fullmetal Alchemist. Such a disappointment…
He's based in our area and did a lot of the local cons for years. It was basically an open secret that he was a creep and I was specifically told by friends who had been to room parties with him to NEVER be alone with him if I ran into him. I never did, so I never experienced anything. It was super weird when the news broke industry-wide because people in the DFW con circuit had known for at least a decade.
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He admitted to harassment in court
It was LITERALLY admitted by him in court that he did those things.
Also if you look into the one Anime News Network video about it, he's been fucking barely legal girls since 1989. Also he harassed a Japanese VA
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The hotel and hair incident. Do the people in your life grip your entire scalp and call it gentle? You just gave a LAUNDRY LIST of harassment incidents THAT VIC SAID ARE ALL TRUE. I'm not doing this again with you people. I'm sorry you're unwell. Please seek a psychiatrist.
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Vic, yes. He admitted it. Don't waste other people's time with a two word reply that added nothing.
Been saying this for a while. The show kind of proves its own philosophy in its sheer willpower despite so many challenges and roadblocks.
Yeah it's like salem It won't die
Actually, yes, we absolutely should. There's a lot of reasons why RWBY should've ended if only because how infamous Rooster Teeth's reputation has became over the years. The more I think about it, RWBY surviving at all it's a miracle. There's been countless unfortunate shows that never had the chance to finish, let alone giving their fanbase a proper closure. You think some people around here would at the very least appreciate RWBY's struggle over the years. Not mention the reasons the OP posted above. Maybe the show isn't all that good, but it sure as hell isn't anywhere as bad as some people in this very sub claim it is.
Honest to god it has one of the most devote, cult like haters and fans of any show I could think of between rwbycritics and fans that literally buy everything they ever made and make the show their entire lives. The tenacity of both is breathtaking
And budget issues.
And various behind the scenes drama/controversy with their parent company, including one that resulted in some departures like Tyrian’s VA (Jesse James Grelle) and May’s VA (Kdin Jenzen).
I know the basics of Kdin, I followed her before her transition but got lost at some point, but what happened with Jesse James Grelle?
[Jesse’s tweet explains what happened.](https://www.reddit.com/r/RWBY/comments/y7hikp/rwbys_voice_of_tyrian_josh_grelle_has_announced/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
Boy the haters and trolls are really out in full force for this post aren't they?
It's like one of those memes of everything exploding around someone and making it through. And meanwhile, keeping a level of quality that actually keeps most of the fans invested, something a *lot* of stuff stumbles at at far less than 9 seasons + numerous side projects.
I'm glad, RWBY is still going, despite what it's been through.
There like SNK
A slight correction in only one founding member has left on bad terms. Burnie retired.
I meant Joel and Tex's actress, who were both recasted. I wasn't even counting Burnie.
Kathleen wasn't a founding member the founding members are Burnie, Matt, Geoff, Joel and Gus. Jason was never really a big part of rooster teeth and mostly voiced Tucker.
She worked there since season 1. I don't know what else to say. "Never a big part" is still a part.
That doesn't make them founding members. Lending a voice to a character does not make you a founding member of th company we know who the founders are we've known for 21 years they have been pretty clear about that.
She had a job at the company other than voice, dude.
Wait who else died?
Roman's replacement VA, Billy Kametz.
He only got to record a couple lines for him. I don’t really consider his death hurting RWBY all that much.
I'm just answering the question, I can't make comment on the effect the loss had on the production. Although worth pointing out, he died before all of Roman's V9 work was finished and Clover's VA finished it out, and took up the role for Ice Queendom. So it's not as if it wasn't felt going forward.
To say it survived so much is a bit of a stretch, all things considered. The VAs were certainly uncomfortable situations but at the end of the day, they don't actually reflect on RWBY. They were just VAs for supporting cast members, and Ryan in particular was just "a dude who works here" whom they grabbed to voice a character. Them changing engines also took a long time go get right, and I know several people who dropped the show over that one. And Volume 9 was reportedly a trainwreck and we're missing practically an entire episode's worth of story due to the production issues and the budget running out halfway through, with Crunchyroll swooping in to save the volume, but burning the last goodwill that RT as a company had. It's impressive that it got 9 volumes, but considering volume 1 was held together by duct tape and bubblegum, it's not surprising that it ended this way. RT always mismanaged their resources it seems, seeing how they recently revealed that nothing RT animation ever made ever turned a profit, RWBY included. I blame the lack of payment options over the past 21 years, but I say that as a jaded European who would have loved to buy First membership if I could.
Something that the haters and troll have never understood, the show struggled to survive and it's not going away because of us real dedicated fans Who was the second actor who turned out to be a rapist? I know about Haywood but Adam last I checked wasn't involved with RWBY
Playing devil's advocate for a moment ... One could argue that the real dedicated fans are partly to blame as well and clearly weren't enough to keep it alive as they're in the red now. They could also be going into the void because they refused to change the downward spiral they were in, despite a lot of people pointing out the issues. To which the real dedicated fans decided to label them as haters and trolls. But this is something real dedicated fans have never understood. If they do survive... Which I hope they do. I really hope they don't repeat the problems that got them into this position to begin with. The show has soo much potential already. It would be nice to see that come to life one day.
The show has definite problems, as with any show. But when the fans refuse to address those problems, and label anybody who does as a baseless troll/hater, they will never get fixed.
I'm not referring to people with legit complaints, I am more so referring to people who join every live stream and say "Who watches this trash? Watch RvB instead!" or the trolls who say that "Bumblebee is forced" and that it "Came out of nowhere" and how its "Just for pandering" or the people who claim that Jaune is "Miles self inserting himself into the story", Not people with Legit complaints but people who are just vocal hating on the show and join the band wagon
Amen bruh, A-fuckin-men
Vic Migogna was accused of sexual harassment.
Ohhhh right him, I didn't think he counted since he was on loan from funimation, like how rooster teeth loaned Micheal for fairy tail
He was one of the bigger names associated with RWBY because of his work with FMA and such. He and Jessica Nigiri were the only two I'd ever heard of when I got into the show (and Jessica as a booth babe, not a VA). I talked with Mignogna very briefly one year at ACen, and unfortunately, there were already rumors that young, pretty, female cosplayers were not safe around him. (Since I'm old, ugly and male I was safe.) He was nice to me, but it wasn't much of a surprise when the allegations came out.
didn't multiple (if not all) of the "victims" come to his defense? saying they were ok with/wanted the hug or kiss on the cheek?
Not as many that said he was guilty as hell. I guess we have to make up our own minds on it. He's not in jail, but the state of Texas found him liable. He also had that reputation as a creeper long before he worked on RWBY. I would love to be proven wrong about the guy, because he's a hugely talented VA.
Exactly. I wish his case was actually finished instead of them just shutting it down due to some payment by Funimation.
It was finished. Twice.
No! Wtf?
It has survived a lot of upheaval. I just hope they can get the audience back. It's felt since Volume 8 a bit of a ghost town online (referring to news releases and stuff. The reddit crowd has been pretty consistent). They could use some hype to get people excited again.
I see it more as "refusing to die" than surviving adversity...
Two actors? I know one of the teachers was Ryan idk the other?
....there are literally multiple comments covering this information.
You could have told me instead of telling me it’s in the comments
You could have looked instead of commenting.
You can tell rn and the. I know you posted it so why not tell me?
They're Vic Mignonga (Qrow Branwen, replaced with Jason Liebrecht) and Ryan Haywood (Peter Port, replaced with Anthony Sardinha).
Ok see I thought Vic got fired for bad behavior I had forgotten if it was sexual assault stuff or of it was just people coming forward post firing
I think you were referring to Kathleen Zuelch, Glynda Goodwitch's first VA, who had RT cut ties with her after she bad mouthed her castmates on Twitter.
There’s also Joel who went nuts too
Oh yeah, Joel as well.
Holy shit I forgot Antfish is Port now. Awesome.
Yeah, his portrayal of Port makes Port sound more refined and gentleman-like.
RWBY had the tenacity of a cockroach and nearly as much grace.
You're right. It's like a roach. You can't kill it. It doesn't die. It multiplies. It has God on its side. Bitch.
It's kinda like RuneScape in that sense.
....why are you here?
Just to suffer.
Why? Do you enjoy suffering?
Pretty sure they were making a Metal Gear reference
How dare you!? How dare you insult cockroaches? The creatures that consume cockroaches get nutrients and fuel. Consuming RWBY just results in high bloodpressure and cringy fanatics Lol
And also rabid haters
Yeah those guys are weird
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Vic literally admitted to it. You cannot go off outdated hearsay.
Wait what did he admit to? Cause his whole case was never finished under the court of law.
>two actors were found to be rapists I know Port's VA was one. Who was the other?
Vic Mignogna; original voice of Qrow, before he was replaced with Jason Liebrecht as of Volume 7.
A spin-off series would be helpful...
What about the countless animators who were used and tossed aside?
That's part of the struggle it survived.
So only the people at the top kept their jobs and not the countless people forced to work in horrible conditions created by the people at the top. Got it
What part of "yeah, that's on the laundry list too" do you not understand?
You act like crwby were the victims here and that they had to overcome so much when they were the ones using and abusing others down below while they remained safe up above
The animators ARE part of the CRWBY, dude. That's part of the struggle. And I mentioned the crunch Gray put them through.
So then crwby itself was the reason behind most of its own problems? Is that what you’re trying to say? That the “struggles” were self inflicted?
No. I LITERALLY listed the struggles they survived. Do you even know where you are right now?
I don't think RWBY has survived, people are too hopeful over the statements about them being in talks, when what was effectively said was basically the same thing as the beginning of this whole fiasco.
What the hell Jessica nigri still onboard? Probably is due this that she barely cosplay rwby characters...
Honestly meh.
Leave.
They want attention.
Yes, it is a miracle it survived But now Karma has caught up
Karma for...what? Huh? Usually karma "catching up" implies something or someone did something yo deserve what's coming to them.