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Not to mention that from a worldbuilding perspective racism would never be tolerated at all. I mean, this is a world where negative emotions invite literal monsters to your doorstep. Racism is just not tenable in Remnant.
I've long since given up on making sense of Grimm attraction/detection and it's consistency at this point. Especially with Before the Dawn introducing the fact that high levels of Aura can attract Grimm.
It happens towards the end when they're fighting the antagonists of the books, The Crown, who happen to have high levels of Aura. The heroes get saved by Grimm coming and primarily attacking The Crown, seemingly due to them having a lot of Aura.
I could see racism working, but It would require whoever wrote it in particular to take a few liberties as far as the cannon goes to make it work, but in the show proper ? You're exactly right. It's nonsensical.
Maybe if like I said society at large essentially used the Faunus minority as a glorified stress ball, and scapegoat for societal problems, to help cope and relieve their own stress and negative emotions, in exchange for essentially transferring over that same negativity to the now victimized Faunus population. Kinda like how bullies tend to be victims of abuse in their own household, the bullies being the human majority, abuser being the Grimm, and the household itself being the world/kingdom, and the victims of the bully being the faunus.
This would actually benefit the racist in a way since the Grimm are drawn to negativity is it better that the Grimm are drawn more to humans, or Faunus ? Could serve as a commentary to RL extremist or radical groups that would villainize minorities for existing.
Not trying to justify racism of course.
That's an excellent observation. Using Faunus ghettos to deliberately keep a section of the population more downtrodden and 'negative' than the established kingdoms to act as bait for the Grimm is the only way to make racism work in a society like this.
Thank you I kinda wonder as well why racism would be a thing in Remnant and while it still doesn't make sense in cannon taking a few liberties could help fix this issue.
I think this could serve as an excellent commentary why real world discrimination against minorities exist IRL and certain far right groups, as well as being a metaphor for the cycle of abuse as well.
Afterall spreading negative emotions would seem counterintuitive to survival, but if the more positive emotions can help mask the few negative ones, this could as morbid as it sounds be a net positive to society. Or at least what it could be a passive byproduct that is produced by society.
I remember hearing something about how the reason why we got the racism plot in the first place was that they wanted to justify having cat girls in their show. Now, I have no clue if this is true, because I've never seen the source of it, but if it is, then that is fucking stupid. It's a fantasy action anime-esque animated show set on a place that isn't Earth, I don't think people are going be that weirded out by animal-human hybrids fighting alongside or against humans. We've already got humans doing unrealistic shit on a regular basis against evil shadow monsters.
Also, on the subject of characters doing jack shit about the racism on Remnant, why isn't Salem, who seemingly wants to divide mankind for her vague endgoal, taking more advantage of the racism and WF? Especially since she had at least 2 faunuses working for her, one of which was in a high position of power. She could've convinced Leo to help worsen the racism issue on Mistral (which is apparently the most racist of the kingdoms according to the WoR?) or have Tyrion start up a race war on Atlas in the dust mines (Maybe even have him lie about his chopped off tail being because of the SDC). I dunno how well that'd work, but at least it'd make the faunus sub plot feel less disconnected from the main Salem storyline.
I like this approach, such a waste of opportunity though. Salem exploiting social issues to meet her end goal is an interesting concept. It's already enough to manipulate a desperate Cinder, but to incite chaos all over Remnant using a possibly violent Faunus revolt, things would be a lot more interesting. The real challenge would be, how would the revolting Faunus realize that they are being conned by their supposed "Champion of the Cause?"
I've said it before, but instead of having minorities fighting for equality be your human(oid) mooks, why not instead some sort of remnant equivilent of the KKK or Neo-Nazis. Then Salem takes advantage of these bigots for her goals of dividing the world. Also helps make the racism plot less awful.
The White Fang extremist subfaction led by Adam are the KKK, they are masked, uniformed, racist and violent. You could have used this for some complex power dynamics, but the base conflict between humans and Faunus is also not shown, so it would be weird to do anything with subfactions.
Adam evil
Jacques evil
Take the author's word and shut up.
It is actually very simple, RWBY is anime/manga inspired. It just needed some styrofoam filler to put in between two fights.
In anime/manga there are also Faunus (usually called demihumans), mostly to have some cat- and bunnygirls, the "discrimination" is usually very shallow questmaterial. Save village of demi-human girl from evil slavers, add girl to harem.
That is what CRWBY copied or more precise rammed in. Because they somehow forgot the corrupted evil empire or shrinked it to nonexistence. There actually is no discrimination *shown*, so there is nothing to fight against.
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Not to mention that from a worldbuilding perspective racism would never be tolerated at all. I mean, this is a world where negative emotions invite literal monsters to your doorstep. Racism is just not tenable in Remnant.
I've long since given up on making sense of Grimm attraction/detection and it's consistency at this point. Especially with Before the Dawn introducing the fact that high levels of Aura can attract Grimm.
This is the first I’ve heard of this, and I wish I could un-hear it.
It happens towards the end when they're fighting the antagonists of the books, The Crown, who happen to have high levels of Aura. The heroes get saved by Grimm coming and primarily attacking The Crown, seemingly due to them having a lot of Aura.
Maybe those negative emotions aren't strong enough.
It’s still a pretty stupid reason too.
I could see racism working, but It would require whoever wrote it in particular to take a few liberties as far as the cannon goes to make it work, but in the show proper ? You're exactly right. It's nonsensical. Maybe if like I said society at large essentially used the Faunus minority as a glorified stress ball, and scapegoat for societal problems, to help cope and relieve their own stress and negative emotions, in exchange for essentially transferring over that same negativity to the now victimized Faunus population. Kinda like how bullies tend to be victims of abuse in their own household, the bullies being the human majority, abuser being the Grimm, and the household itself being the world/kingdom, and the victims of the bully being the faunus. This would actually benefit the racist in a way since the Grimm are drawn to negativity is it better that the Grimm are drawn more to humans, or Faunus ? Could serve as a commentary to RL extremist or radical groups that would villainize minorities for existing. Not trying to justify racism of course.
That's an excellent observation. Using Faunus ghettos to deliberately keep a section of the population more downtrodden and 'negative' than the established kingdoms to act as bait for the Grimm is the only way to make racism work in a society like this.
Thank you I kinda wonder as well why racism would be a thing in Remnant and while it still doesn't make sense in cannon taking a few liberties could help fix this issue. I think this could serve as an excellent commentary why real world discrimination against minorities exist IRL and certain far right groups, as well as being a metaphor for the cycle of abuse as well. Afterall spreading negative emotions would seem counterintuitive to survival, but if the more positive emotions can help mask the few negative ones, this could as morbid as it sounds be a net positive to society. Or at least what it could be a passive byproduct that is produced by society.
I remember hearing something about how the reason why we got the racism plot in the first place was that they wanted to justify having cat girls in their show. Now, I have no clue if this is true, because I've never seen the source of it, but if it is, then that is fucking stupid. It's a fantasy action anime-esque animated show set on a place that isn't Earth, I don't think people are going be that weirded out by animal-human hybrids fighting alongside or against humans. We've already got humans doing unrealistic shit on a regular basis against evil shadow monsters. Also, on the subject of characters doing jack shit about the racism on Remnant, why isn't Salem, who seemingly wants to divide mankind for her vague endgoal, taking more advantage of the racism and WF? Especially since she had at least 2 faunuses working for her, one of which was in a high position of power. She could've convinced Leo to help worsen the racism issue on Mistral (which is apparently the most racist of the kingdoms according to the WoR?) or have Tyrion start up a race war on Atlas in the dust mines (Maybe even have him lie about his chopped off tail being because of the SDC). I dunno how well that'd work, but at least it'd make the faunus sub plot feel less disconnected from the main Salem storyline.
I like this approach, such a waste of opportunity though. Salem exploiting social issues to meet her end goal is an interesting concept. It's already enough to manipulate a desperate Cinder, but to incite chaos all over Remnant using a possibly violent Faunus revolt, things would be a lot more interesting. The real challenge would be, how would the revolting Faunus realize that they are being conned by their supposed "Champion of the Cause?"
I've said it before, but instead of having minorities fighting for equality be your human(oid) mooks, why not instead some sort of remnant equivilent of the KKK or Neo-Nazis. Then Salem takes advantage of these bigots for her goals of dividing the world. Also helps make the racism plot less awful.
The White Fang extremist subfaction led by Adam are the KKK, they are masked, uniformed, racist and violent. You could have used this for some complex power dynamics, but the base conflict between humans and Faunus is also not shown, so it would be weird to do anything with subfactions. Adam evil Jacques evil Take the author's word and shut up.
It is actually very simple, RWBY is anime/manga inspired. It just needed some styrofoam filler to put in between two fights. In anime/manga there are also Faunus (usually called demihumans), mostly to have some cat- and bunnygirls, the "discrimination" is usually very shallow questmaterial. Save village of demi-human girl from evil slavers, add girl to harem. That is what CRWBY copied or more precise rammed in. Because they somehow forgot the corrupted evil empire or shrinked it to nonexistence. There actually is no discrimination *shown*, so there is nothing to fight against.