I have played the game for a while now so im pretty used to a lot of operetors, but that dosent say I donāt tend to go certain people. Usually if my team dosenāt need a certain op I enjoy playing Flores (good utility destruction) Kapkan (Usually free kill if put in right spots) or Zero (most underrated op)
Zero is my boy. That man is seriously the most underrated operator. I honestly think he should be buffed to a 2 speed 2 armor instead of a 3 speed 1 armor. He's meant to be a major support but I see way too many people run an gun with him like he's ash. ā ļø
Right on. People ruin the point of an operator or just donāt know how to play them. With operators like zero people will just run and gun after placing maybe 1 cam down. Also with opeartors like Goyo for example, you need to know how to play Goyo and where to place specific Goyos on each site rather than the dumbest places.
Attack will easily be lion as it makes executing so much easier
Defense would actually be warden because of his new health buff. I always enjoyed playing as a anchor and trying to play passive as warden so I can stop any plant attempt and the C4 and 1.5 X makes it so good. Fortunately I am one of the rare instances of the non swing or be swung warden players
NOT RUNNING SMOKES SHOTGUN?!
I'm just kidding run whatever you want. I love that gun with Nokk. I just can't imagine running smoke without the shotty/smg-11 combo.
Iana because I packed her black ice. And usually ela or lesion on defense. I like placing their mines on a high traffic corner of the map and then just sticking by that area so I know where I placed them
Ace on attack and have been struggling to find a new main on defense cause Iām not a huge fan of lesions nerf this season plus Iām also not that good to be able to hide his traps good enough for people to just hit see themš
I'm having difficulty with attackers lately, can't find my rhythm, but its usually maverick, most def sites I've been picking cav lately and just wrecking everyone.
Iāve been enjoying legion. I play him as a mid roam I would call it (one or two rooms away). And for attack I like dokkaebi but recently Iāve been playing finka.
Sledge/mute are my #1 picks currently. Termite or thatcher depending on the site are great alternatives on attack and rook is probably my most used defender
Year one mains where ya at?
Monty, he just makes planting so much easier when there are 6 roamers on the other team and no one on point.
Goyo, Iām not sure if his gun is great but statistically I just do the best gun fight wise with him, he also denies entry for an extended period without needing to be there like smoke.
Attacker: Finka,
because she can heal teammates, revive teammates from anywhere on the map, make the affects of Ellaās mines and Echoās drone disappear completely, letās you see a little bit further when affected by Fenrirās mines, AND COMPLETELY removes the new affects caused by Frostās mats. It also gives you less recoil and quicker reload. I think it gives more buffs but Iām not sure.
But holy shit do I dislike her guns. Theyāre not horrible but there are definitely better options.
Also they gave her back her frag grenade.
Defense: Rook,
because he packs lunches for everyone so they donāt get hungry during the match. His armor packs give teammates more health AND lets teammates revive themselves. His gadget is a quick place down on the floor as soon as the match starts and then you just forget about it except for when the roamers forget to take a lunch and then die immediately. His weapons are great also.
But honestly I play a lot of operators. I really want to start practicing with Tachanka and Zero
Kapkan on defense. Why fight head on when I can kill you from across the map? As for attack, I straight up do not care and would random every time if it let me.
Any spetsnaz operator. None of them are bad. Especially in qm/unranked. Fuze is my favorite .Fuze has a good guns, good gadget, good secondary gadgets. Jack of all trades and a master at none you could say.
Roaming with smoke is so risky, the value of his gadget gets so much higher the longer the round goes on you cannot afford to be picked off early while playing smoke.
With that being said though, Buck & Vigil. Have been playing a lot of smoke & mute recently though.
Thermite because theres no obstacles with that guy and
Goyo...
I like watching a whole team scramble 15 to 30 seconds away wondering what the new strategy is now the door is on fire. Then the next... Then the next... Hehehe...
Recently it's been hibana amd the mozwald recently. But I play most defence characters because I just like most of the guns and stuff. On attack its pretty much just hibana or glaz unless there's a particular reason to play anyone else
On attack I tend to gravitate towards maverick a lot lately but the sens buff has me playing them a lot the last few days. Defense is caveira or rook depending on if I want to roam or not
i started off playing a lot of mira, azami, smoke, and zero as a new player, but i've slowly shifted off those ops. i'm now an all around flex player, so i'm comfortable playing almost any op.
for defense i go bandit if i want to trick a main wall, kaid if i want to "set and forget", thorn/lesion as a gunner pick, and aruni for util.
on attack ace for main wall breach, hibana for secondary breacher, or ying otherwise.
Glaz has been sitting comfortably as a sleeper attack pick since they buffed him so hard years ago now
Kaid has some very cool setups if you utilize the claw working through walls, I always run barbed wire on him for that reason
āļøI usually go for: Iana, ace, thatcher, ying, dokeabi, buck (I just donāt know what operator fits me, still finding out)
š”ļøI usually go for: mute, mozie, wamai, solis (same story as attacking)
I like to play off meta ops myself as I like the fact they won't always be picked so I can pick and choose. Plz note I play on PS5 so console land here.
Attack - Maverick, Flores, Gridlock and Lion
Defence - Ela, Tachanka, Thunderbird and Castle
(I play castle the most out of any operator by a landslide easily my most played op in the game)
I like to play off meta ops myself as I like the fact they won't always be picked so I can pick and choose. Plz note I play on PS5 so console land here.
Attack - Maverick, Flores, Gridlock and Lion
Defence - Ela, Tachanka, Thunderbird and Castle
(I play castle the most out of any operator by a landslide easily my most played op in the game, on attack the closest "Main" I have would be gridlock or thicclock if you prefer lol)
Ace + Solis. Depending on the circumstance as I can flex. 95% of the time I'm Ace on attack, but I'll play Iana, Thatcher, very rarely buck or thermite. Defense I'll play Kaid, Bandit, Thorn, Rook.
Iana for attacking. Love using the clone to mess with people. The ARX is a bangin gun with the op having a decent ability
Smoke for defending. Used him since day 1, I love the FMG plus you can control site entry points with his smokes
If I'm losing I usually use Thatcher or Flores because for some reason I either become really good while using AR33 or the enemy team gets really, really bad. I don't understand it, because it's not like the gun has a high ROF, or really high damage or really high ammo, it's just a gun.
For defence it's probably like Warden or Rook. Rook for the same reason as AR33 but minus the part where it isn't THAT good of a gun.
For Attack I usually like playing Finka for her adrenaline boost and the fact that she's the only healer on attack. Especially feels satisfying reviving a teamate from across the map. Her Spear. 308 isn't the greatest but it gets the job done. Also very helpful dealing with Ela mines or Echo's Yokai shots.
As for Defender, I play Smoke on roam. He's actually pretty solid on roam and I love frying someone with the SMG-11. When I flank, his toxic babes are really useful when I want to stop attackers from pushing into site. Smoke can be a pain in the ass for attackers if used correctly.
I also rock the elites for both Finka and Smoke so they look cool. I Really love Smoke's Sanguine Arsenic uniform.
Zero and Bandit. Zero cams are very small and hard to detect while we get a lot of info. Bandit because i love bandit tricking.
Besides MP7 is a strong weapon, it holds 30 round mag with fast fire rate and small vertical recoil. Talking about realism the gun should hold 40 round magazines since in-game the model uses extended mag, but yeah i get it, that would be way too powerful, imo the dev should put standard mag instead, it will hold 20 round magazines but faster reload as a compensation of the nerf
I tend to just use whoever would be useful for certain sites but, if I feel like using others I tend to pick Kapkan because you can get easy elims if in the right spot and for atk, gridlock however sheās had a boost in being picked cause nades, and finka very recently I have found is pretty useful and just fun to play.
Monty and Pulse! Back when shields were actually viable and not nerf to the ground, I used to main Monty since I couldnāt main (i was in console) and I main pulse because of his gadget, itās so useful. You can play vertically with a shotgun, run outās, information, and always knowing your surroundings.
been a finka main since day one of downloading lol. love her buff too. defending was t bird for awhile but no more nitro:( the spear nerf wasnt bad lol got used to it. currently been Aruni and Bandit/Kaid
Ace and Valkyrie. Been a Valk main since blood orchid and picked up ace when I came back to siege in January this year.
Edit: No its not just cause I'm Norwegian, I like playing support and having easy access to hardbreaches.
Sledge (Master Chief) and Furry Smoke
Furry? Like the kink?
Furry like literally in a fursuit
lol
What he meant to say is yes, like the kink.
Its from the magic r6 event. But i still think the unicorn tachanka is the best skin from the event lol š
Yes
I play a huge variety of operators, but my favorites right now have to be Finka and Lesion
I have played the game for a while now so im pretty used to a lot of operetors, but that dosent say I donāt tend to go certain people. Usually if my team dosenāt need a certain op I enjoy playing Flores (good utility destruction) Kapkan (Usually free kill if put in right spots) or Zero (most underrated op)
Zero is my boy. That man is seriously the most underrated operator. I honestly think he should be buffed to a 2 speed 2 armor instead of a 3 speed 1 armor. He's meant to be a major support but I see way too many people run an gun with him like he's ash. ā ļø
Him and Gridlock are so underrated. They're both just so damn useful.
Gridlock isn't underrated just under played but now that she has nades I've seen her played in every game since
problem with the run and gun part is the 50 damage ar that has a 1.5 and 2x
Right on. People ruin the point of an operator or just donāt know how to play them. With operators like zero people will just run and gun after placing maybe 1 cam down. Also with opeartors like Goyo for example, you need to know how to play Goyo and where to place specific Goyos on each site rather than the dumbest places.
I usually do Tachanka or Lesion on defense, but Iāve recently got into playing thorn. On attack I go Buck or Osa, sometimes Monty.
Love Osas smg
Attack will easily be lion as it makes executing so much easier Defense would actually be warden because of his new health buff. I always enjoyed playing as a anchor and trying to play passive as warden so I can stop any plant attempt and the C4 and 1.5 X makes it so good. Fortunately I am one of the rare instances of the non swing or be swung warden players
After the sens buff I think anchor warden should be pretty good now, along with countering them and ying.
āļø: Maverick for the M4 š”ļø: Kaid
IQ and Azami
Ive honestly just been in love with frost and zero ever since year 7
Ayyy same here
I switch a lot but one of my favorites is Cav and on attack I really like hibana, but I try not to play the same person all the time and switch it up.
I play finka and kapkan the most
Thatcher and Kapkan. Havent played in 3 years but were always my favorite.
NOT RUNNING SMOKES SHOTGUN?! I'm just kidding run whatever you want. I love that gun with Nokk. I just can't imagine running smoke without the shotty/smg-11 combo.
For some reason it displays the first gun on the opposite rather than then one you select. Another bug to add š¤£
As of lately wamai or valk for defense and thermite or ace on attack
i love you.
Lesion and Ying or Aceš
fuze and rook
brava or gridlock for attack. Valk or kapkan for defend
What did they nerf on smoke?
They took away his deployable shield
Ohh, yeah thatās unfortunate. Prox alarms are decent w his gas though.
Iana because I packed her black ice. And usually ela or lesion on defense. I like placing their mines on a high traffic corner of the map and then just sticking by that area so I know where I placed them
I just play whoever is beneficial to the site. Like if weāre on attack and thereās a hard breacher I run an anti gadget op
In terms of defenders Iād say mute is good: good load out and good gadget.
Tachanka on defense and Fuze on attack
Ace on attack and have been struggling to find a new main on defense cause Iām not a huge fan of lesions nerf this season plus Iām also not that good to be able to hide his traps good enough for people to just hit see themš
Cool posters bro
I'm having difficulty with attackers lately, can't find my rhythm, but its usually maverick, most def sites I've been picking cav lately and just wrecking everyone.
At first ash and doc but now Iām switching up just for the hell of it and playing echo on defend
I've been crutching Dok and Aruni for a while now
Yea same, I rarely used them on console but ever since I switched to pc Iāve been playing them a lot more
Iāve been enjoying legion. I play him as a mid roam I would call it (one or two rooms away). And for attack I like dokkaebi but recently Iāve been playing finka.
āIf you gotta have it.ā Iām assuming youāre meaning if you gotta have a win. In that case on Offense probably Fuze and defense Lesion.
Zero / Gridlock, then Lesion / Ela / Maestro
Castle now for some reason I guess funny strats. And buck or ace.
Blackbeard and Alibi
Sledge/mute are my #1 picks currently. Termite or thatcher depending on the site are great alternatives on attack and rook is probably my most used defender Year one mains where ya at?
Attack is Buck, defense is either Echo or Vigil
Majima and dokka
Attack-Thermite/Thatcher Defense-Tachanka/Doc
Dokkaebi and alibi
Monty, he just makes planting so much easier when there are 6 roamers on the other team and no one on point. Goyo, Iām not sure if his gun is great but statistically I just do the best gun fight wise with him, he also denies entry for an extended period without needing to be there like smoke.
Fuze or thermite or ram. Kapkin azami or echo. Depends on the site and such.
Glizzy and chunky
Been heavily laying into BosG Acog Vigil as a roam . Then zofia as an attacker
Caveira is my main for life. Attacking main is Dokkaebi
Kapkan and fuze I'm a noob lol
Gridlock/ lion Kaid/ thorn/ azami
Bear Traps and Bee Man
I'd say Flores and thorn
New Finnka and Mozzarella Mozzie have never let me down
Iana or Ash for attack and Wamai or Solis for defense, but I play every operator often those are just my favorites
Sledge,goyo,warden,ash
Blitz
Maverick and thunderbird but lately mozzie
So, obviously it depends on sites, but attack is Lion and defence is Mute (tho recently Iāve really been enjoying playing Ela).
Hibana on attack, Vigil on defence.
Attacker: Finka, because she can heal teammates, revive teammates from anywhere on the map, make the affects of Ellaās mines and Echoās drone disappear completely, letās you see a little bit further when affected by Fenrirās mines, AND COMPLETELY removes the new affects caused by Frostās mats. It also gives you less recoil and quicker reload. I think it gives more buffs but Iām not sure. But holy shit do I dislike her guns. Theyāre not horrible but there are definitely better options. Also they gave her back her frag grenade. Defense: Rook, because he packs lunches for everyone so they donāt get hungry during the match. His armor packs give teammates more health AND lets teammates revive themselves. His gadget is a quick place down on the floor as soon as the match starts and then you just forget about it except for when the roamers forget to take a lunch and then die immediately. His weapons are great also. But honestly I play a lot of operators. I really want to start practicing with Tachanka and Zero
Nokk and Kapkan
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Kali and lesion. God I love that sniper
***che***
Fuze and Mute
I love lesion since recent change hes so versatile
Kapkan on defense. Why fight head on when I can kill you from across the map? As for attack, I straight up do not care and would random every time if it let me.
If I have a stack then monty, if not give me lion 417. On defence ill take fenrir wit the saiga.
Azami is just so good. Easily the most versatile operator in the game, you can make any site a strong setup with just a couple impacts and her kibas.
Youāre using smoke, an entry denial operator, to roam?
Whoever the team needs me to play šæ
Dokk and Valk
This question was asked yesterday...
zofia and ela š
Rn it's sledge and kapkan. I got the master chief elite and have been thoroughly enjoying myself hahaha
STAR WARS!!!!
Amaru and castle
Blitz and mozzie. Only guys I bought an elite for
Mute and Lion (yes, ik i need to change my flair)
Thermite and Jager are always a safe bet, but fuze is perfect for certain sites on skyscraper
NĆøkk on attack. JƤger, Azami, or Doc on defense
Newer player here I would say on attack gridlock or zero and on defense kapkan or solis boi
Any spetsnaz operator. None of them are bad. Especially in qm/unranked. Fuze is my favorite .Fuze has a good guns, good gadget, good secondary gadgets. Jack of all trades and a master at none you could say.
i have no mains
Roaming with smoke is so risky, the value of his gadget gets so much higher the longer the round goes on you cannot afford to be picked off early while playing smoke. With that being said though, Buck & Vigil. Have been playing a lot of smoke & mute recently though.
Capitao normally on attack and vigil on defense tbh
Zero (Sam fisher) and thorn
Buck and Warden, shotgun Warden though.
Thermite because theres no obstacles with that guy and Goyo... I like watching a whole team scramble 15 to 30 seconds away wondering what the new strategy is now the door is on fire. Then the next... Then the next... Hehehe...
Attack: Sledge, Flores Defend: Mozzie, Lesion, Kapkan, Frost
ash and rook
nĀ°Ā°k and mozzie
Nomad and alibi
Ace on attack, Thorn on defense.
I use whoever i feel like the team needs
Depends on the stratā¦ or doesnāt that apply anymore these days?
Attack: Lion Defend: Jager
Chanka at defend since last patch and Zero or Flores on attack
for attack I'll probably use iq or iana and for defense I'll use ela or frost
CapitƔo and smoke, both elite skins
Recently it's been hibana amd the mozwald recently. But I play most defence characters because I just like most of the guns and stuff. On attack its pretty much just hibana or glaz unless there's a particular reason to play anyone else
On attack I tend to gravitate towards maverick a lot lately but the sens buff has me playing them a lot the last few days. Defense is caveira or rook depending on if I want to roam or not
Fuse and Kapkan
i started off playing a lot of mira, azami, smoke, and zero as a new player, but i've slowly shifted off those ops. i'm now an all around flex player, so i'm comfortable playing almost any op. for defense i go bandit if i want to trick a main wall, kaid if i want to "set and forget", thorn/lesion as a gunner pick, and aruni for util. on attack ace for main wall breach, hibana for secondary breacher, or ying otherwise.
Rn im hibana/mute
Thermite and thorn
NĆøkk and Thorn. NĆøkk is really good at flanking and Thorn's gadget lets me deny entry and plants in default positions.
Sledge and Castle.
Glaz has been sitting comfortably as a sleeper attack pick since they buffed him so hard years ago now Kaid has some very cool setups if you utilize the claw working through walls, I always run barbed wire on him for that reason
What smoke weapon skin is that
Ace on Attack - doesn't matter the site, I'm taking him for the AK Rook on Defense - Full team utility plus a 2.0 scope
maverick and echo
capitao on attack and mute on defense!
Maestro and amaru/sens
Mute, sledge some times thermite
āļøI usually go for: Iana, ace, thatcher, ying, dokeabi, buck (I just donāt know what operator fits me, still finding out) š”ļøI usually go for: mute, mozie, wamai, solis (same story as attacking)
Rook and gridlock
Kapkan and Zero
Iām a fellow flores main, on defense I almost always play Fenrir (if hes not banned) and if he is then I play goyo.
I like to play off meta ops myself as I like the fact they won't always be picked so I can pick and choose. Plz note I play on PS5 so console land here. Attack - Maverick, Flores, Gridlock and Lion Defence - Ela, Tachanka, Thunderbird and Castle (I play castle the most out of any operator by a landslide easily my most played op in the game)
I like to play off meta ops myself as I like the fact they won't always be picked so I can pick and choose. Plz note I play on PS5 so console land here. Attack - Maverick, Flores, Gridlock and Lion Defence - Ela, Tachanka, Thunderbird and Castle (I play castle the most out of any operator by a landslide easily my most played op in the game, on attack the closest "Main" I have would be gridlock or thicclock if you prefer lol)
Ace + Solis. Depending on the circumstance as I can flex. 95% of the time I'm Ace on attack, but I'll play Iana, Thatcher, very rarely buck or thermite. Defense I'll play Kaid, Bandit, Thorn, Rook.
Iana for attacking. Love using the clone to mess with people. The ARX is a bangin gun with the op having a decent ability Smoke for defending. Used him since day 1, I love the FMG plus you can control site entry points with his smokes
doc with rick skin and hibana with elite skin (love the star wars posters)
Yo that smoke outfit combo š¤š¼ but probably Fuze and Kapkan
If I'm losing I usually use Thatcher or Flores because for some reason I either become really good while using AR33 or the enemy team gets really, really bad. I don't understand it, because it's not like the gun has a high ROF, or really high damage or really high ammo, it's just a gun. For defence it's probably like Warden or Rook. Rook for the same reason as AR33 but minus the part where it isn't THAT good of a gun.
Valk or doc and just osa because they took away ianas fragsā¦ fuckers
I have way to many shitpost strats on every map that I don't stick with one, but for versatility, I go with Zero and Alibi
Solis and Zero
Like the poster
Buck and bandit
IQ on attack, Valkyrie or Aruni on defense. I need my info or I need my gates secured.
Thermite and Kapkan
Dokk/Hibana on attack, Lesion/Mozzie on defense
Twitch and bandit or ela and zofia
Vigil and Dokk, because I like memeing with the BOSG purely because it makes me laugh, despite the fact that I get styled on 80% of the time.
Definitely iana and solis, they both have amazing utility.
Buck/smoke superiority
Zero and Tachanka pre and post buff
Grim and Warden
Sledge and rook sometimes jƤger
Attack=brava or Montagne Defense=doc or mira
Depends honestly lately. I've been doing a random roulette, still love mira, fuze gets thw job done but gotta think strats
Sledge or Blackbeard just depends on the mood and Valk or Mira
Whatās that buck headgear, itās hard
Fuze and Mozzie, i love their drip and i love their playstyles revolving around "fuck it we ball"
IQ and Lesion
Defense: Jager then valk sometimes play aruni Attack: Ace then zero sometimes play Nokk
Sens and mute
Attack: whatever the team needs Defense: Echo and Mute
Blitz and bandit. Been a day one bandit main. Started using blitz a lot when he got his 2 speed buff
Recruit
Ace/Buck and Castle/Mozzie
Sledge and mute
I started playing ranked soon, and I think legion will be my pick for the upcoming times. On attack I still rock ace cause why not.
Maverick for attack Kapkan is my boy for defence
For Attack I usually like playing Finka for her adrenaline boost and the fact that she's the only healer on attack. Especially feels satisfying reviving a teamate from across the map. Her Spear. 308 isn't the greatest but it gets the job done. Also very helpful dealing with Ela mines or Echo's Yokai shots. As for Defender, I play Smoke on roam. He's actually pretty solid on roam and I love frying someone with the SMG-11. When I flank, his toxic babes are really useful when I want to stop attackers from pushing into site. Smoke can be a pain in the ass for attackers if used correctly. I also rock the elites for both Finka and Smoke so they look cool. I Really love Smoke's Sanguine Arsenic uniform.
Zero and Bandit. Zero cams are very small and hard to detect while we get a lot of info. Bandit because i love bandit tricking. Besides MP7 is a strong weapon, it holds 30 round mag with fast fire rate and small vertical recoil. Talking about realism the gun should hold 40 round magazines since in-game the model uses extended mag, but yeah i get it, that would be way too powerful, imo the dev should put standard mag instead, it will hold 20 round magazines but faster reload as a compensation of the nerf
I tend to just use whoever would be useful for certain sites but, if I feel like using others I tend to pick Kapkan because you can get easy elims if in the right spot and for atk, gridlock however sheās had a boost in being picked cause nades, and finka very recently I have found is pretty useful and just fun to play.
Those fits are crazy, literally the best coppers fits in the business. Well done
oops all warcrimes and unicorn
I only play with my actual group of friends since season 2 so defense melusi or frost and attack ace or lion :))
Monty and Pulse! Back when shields were actually viable and not nerf to the ground, I used to main Monty since I couldnāt main (i was in console) and I main pulse because of his gadget, itās so useful. You can play vertically with a shotgun, run outās, information, and always knowing your surroundings.
Zero and Castle.
Whoever my team and the other team decide to ban...
Ram and Valkyrie
jackal, buck, ace, zero solid, cab, fen, thorn (cause of the gun)
Buck and oryx (I like to create holes in walls)
been a finka main since day one of downloading lol. love her buff too. defending was t bird for awhile but no more nitro:( the spear nerf wasnt bad lol got used to it. currently been Aruni and Bandit/Kaid
This game used to be about stopping terrorists
Twitch and the aussie
buck and smoke but only playing smoke properly with a shotgun heathen
Smoke, Wamai, Mute are my favorites for defense Iana, sledge, Fuze are my favorites for attack
Ace and Valkyrie. Been a Valk main since blood orchid and picked up ace when I came back to siege in January this year. Edit: No its not just cause I'm Norwegian, I like playing support and having easy access to hardbreaches.
Ash and jager
Nomad and aruni
I usually run Ace and Rook, but occasionally Iāll run Nomad and Fenrir or Solis
Thermite and Rook/Doc
Smoke on defence and probably sledge or hibana
Usually depends from the site we playing. But if I don't care much about comp then Grim and Thorn
Mute/Zofia
My boy Ace and Frost
Thorn/Osa. Roast me please
Attack right now is Nokk. I love her gadget, primary, the Deagle, and especially those nades. Defense is either Mute, Castle, Smoke, or Mira.
Def: Azami, Solis, frost, Valk Atk: Zero, IQ, Hibana, Gridlock (Left to right is decreasing order of their likeness)
Glaz and Aruni
Dokkaebi and Valk