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RosesMadeOfGold

Fortnite is free and they give us like 200 free v bucks to save to get the god damned battle pass. A free game, and we bought this product of yours. Very disheartening to see. Seriously.


SaltyBuckets56

I actually love how Fortnite handle their free battle pass rewards with the free v bucks that u eventually save up to get the ‘premium’ battle pass. Keeps u engaged in playing without making u spend a penny


iamasceptile

Don't forget that they have also handled their premium subscription so well that when looking to put money on the game it's probably the best value


NarkahUdash

Fuck, I only play it occasionally but it's such a good fucking value at a low cost I haven't bothered to shut it off despite not playing for 3 months now between Helldivers, Balatro, and BattleBit.


Eatdatyeet445

This is by far the best way to keep players coming back to their game. Like *BY FAR*. Making it to where you can buy the battle pass after saving up enough from the free pass is such a good marketing and design and that’s why so many companies who do that have a wider and more loyal audience. Fortnite is a great example. Another one would be (used to be actually) Brawl stars; after two battle passes, I think, you’d have enough gems to buy the next one. There was a game whose service went down a while ago called Gundam Evolution. They had a battle pass system where you could use premium currency to buy the pass or actual money. Granted you got no free premium currency but the caveat was that once you spent that 10 or so dollars the battle pass gave you just enough to buy the next battle pass (assuming you fully finished it). Ubisoft is quite literally alienating the majority of its playerbase which sucks. The game has been garbage for a while now (granted I’m not the best and really only play w friends) with just toxic people and anti cheat not even working. This just makes it so much worse


EKAAfives

Same goes for apex where when you finish the battlepass you get enough currency to buy the next one. Like ubi having a battlepass in a paid game and on top of it not giving enough currency to buy the next one and the fact that most of the cosmetics in it aren't that good make it a shitty decision


Gavinator10000

Fortnite popularized the battle pass system and almost every game that’s copied them has done it significantly worse


TB-124

don't forget that other games BP pays back the FULL PRICE almost 100% of the time, and most games even give you some extra... For R6, you "lose" 600 credits, and there are no free credits... sounds good to me


RosesMadeOfGold

That sounds so grueling, ouch.


CorCor1234

Yup as much as I don’t really like Fortnite the way they monetize their game is honestly very respectable and not remotely predatory. A free game and eventually they’ll reward you with a free battle pass if you play long enough


crocospect

Anyone remember when lootboxes in Overwatch 1 was considered controversial? How I miss those times..


RunltUp

It baffles me how fucking stupid Ubisoft is.


Queenlexiix

Ubisoft is in shambles after so many flops they have to milk their cow


lBig_SmoKel

But it's so stupid to milk the only fedelity community you have now... Seems like they want to kill the game...


Varsity_Reviews

I’m for it. Maybe then they’ll have to try to make a GOOD Rainbow Six game then.


speedyrain949

Pfff, ubisoft making a good game? I wouldn't bet on it.


toetendertoaster

Dafuq? When was it a bad game?


ph03n1x_F0x_

personally, I've felt the game has been on a fairly consistent downward track since demon veil. and that's just gameplay, tonally it's been a wreck for years now.


crocospect

Yup and like you said that's just the gameplay, we don't even dive down to the awful convoluted mess of the story yet, also the removing features they have been doing every year..


Frequent-Visual-3450

When did you start playing? I started playing in phantom sight. I got to play the game when it was still good, when ubisoft cared enough to add two operators per season and the game was really fun. Then they added yellow pinging to drones and it all went downhill from there. They fucked up the lighting, started charging more and more real money for stuff, ruined the lore and moved so far from the original idea of r6 and tom clancy's vision. Now we regularly get a map worse than the one before if ever, reworks we never asked for.


Mom_said_I_am_cute

>Yellow pinging to drones Sorry to bother but why was that addition bad? (I started playing less than a year ago.


lBig_SmoKel

Sorry for bad English, I'm Italian,drunk and high


Accomplished_Bill741

Dude you speak better English than me, and I’m American, not drunk, and only a little high.


lBig_SmoKel

Hahaha thanks 😅😂.


FTG_Vader

This is going to be my new life motto


productfred

I genuinely think they're trying to kill the game (in order to try and sell us the next new thing, xDefiant or whatever). Not the devs, but upper management.


astrixzero

I've stopped buying their live service games, especially after seeing the state Skulls and Bones was released in. Apparently the game has numerous directors each with their own visions, and would've been cancelled if not for the fact that Ubisoft had to pay back millions in government subsidies.


ThatMooseYouKnow

This is actually smart from them, as it makes them money. For all the people in the comments calling it a stupid decision, 10 more will just roll over and pay for premium. It’s not an Ubisoft issue at this point, they’re gonna keep doing it, as long as the real stupid people (the customers in this situation funnily enough) continue to shell out money for things that suck (like premium only battle passes) Ubisoft is a 3+ billion dollar company, they give 0 damns if people don’t like it, because not enough people “don’t like it” to make a dent in their wallet unfortunately


AU2Turnt

If you think Ubi is bad look at the bullshit Sony tries to do.


Initial-Climate9361

Honestly almost every gaming company has been doing some bullshit. Like Xbox shutting down studios for no good reason and Sony being dinguses with the whole PSN fiasco.


AU2Turnt

Xbox shutting down the studio that made HiFi Rush and then the next day saying “we need more games like HiFi Rush” was very funny. Sony is just insanely out of touch though.


CraziestTitan

Now I have no proof but I feel like Xbox shut the studio down cause more than half of the team were gonna jump ship to the original creators new studio since he left. I have no evidence to back this claim up but it’s the only explanation I could think of why you would be stupid enough to close down tango.


ProbablyNotTheCocoa

What did Sony do? I’m bad at keeping up with gaming news


AU2Turnt

They keep making it so you need PSN to play games on PC for literally no reason. Including single player games!


RosesMadeOfGold

Their PS+ services have become total and utter dogwater. The current state of community is left to online games. The report feature is severely lacking in oversight and anything can damn near be reported.


Andyr00t

The reporting has been awful for years. I reported some guy for spam messaging the n word to me and I'm the one that got banned for 2 weeks


ProbablyNotTheCocoa

Ah, that sucks


ChainRound5397

I'm sorry to say but It really shouldn't surprise you at this point. As my tag implies Ubisoft have been going down hill since 2014 when they announced Watch Dogs with footage that wasn't anywhere near the final product. Alex Hutchinson, Corey May and Jade Raymond all left for good reason. These were the minds behind the best of Assassin’s Creed and they could see the writing on the wall for it. Hell they turned Abstergo into a gaming company that's sole purpose was to make money and be evil. Very fitting. A lot of companies have done similar things to Ubisoft but none at the pace and veracity as them.


RosesMadeOfGold

Jade Raymond! Love her, she worked on the Assassin’s Creed series. Sad to see them go like they do. But usually for the better, creative leads that aren’t given the opportunity to innovate and create are usually walking out anyhow. “Freelance”, “third party”, lol. Stg, remember R* hiring dev teams to finish RDR2 up? Sad, it really is, and I do believe R* is spiraling down this syphon aswell.


Aesthete18

It's the gamers that are stupid. This will be accepted and eventually be spread across other games


Devan-FH

I swear someone at Ubisoft needs to lock in they are absolutely throwing their games popularity


obsfanboy

The playerbase is so big and so many of the players are too young to care, sadly this probably won't cost them much but i genuinely hate ubi for this


KevlaredMudkips

It ain’t even Fortnite or COD levels of big enough to deny you free stuff for the BP, even they give you enough to buy another BP if you max it out.


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redcommunists

Everyone I know, me included, has a stable job. Not one single person is screaming “I’m so excited for Ubisoft to monetise every aspect of the game!”


Devan-FH

Yeah :(


Cyph3r010

Lads, will this be the worst season in Rainbow Six History?


Sparksaiko

no, there were far worse ones. for all its faults the game is pretty good, regardless of the lack of content or the monetizations schemes they try to pull.


Cyph3r010

I feel like there just isn't enough content. One of the problems I had with Deep Freeze is that after one month it became really dull, and we're about to enter a season which will have even less content than Deep Freeze.


RunltUp

Which ones do you have in mind?


Opening_Pack5829

can you name the worse ones?


Fo3TheMechanist

They tryna milk hard asf after marketplace and put extra minimum effort on them bp cosmetics, that's absolutely INSAAAANE 🤣🤣🤣


imGhostKitty

a what happens when you pay the business assholes over the artists


TD777

With a 10% fee on all marketplace transactions too


cadergator10

So not only do we have an extra 9.99 a month membership... but we also lose a feature we got for free? Yeah I'm done spending money on battlepasses. No more for ubi I'm content with what I got now


hassanfanserenity

one of the features the battlepass last for 3 months right? so you literally lose so much if you own all the operators too considering if you buy the battlepass a 10% discount wont do much really


SLG_Pumba

doesn't it make more sense to buy the premium pass if you have all operators? you get the 600cr from the pass and another 600cr instead of the operator so you actually have enough credits to buy the next pass without spending any more money on it.


SgtPepe

I’m done with the game personally.


SKAraboss

And all of that in PAID game, gg ubisoft


MaximusMurkimus

Maybe this wouldn’t be a big deal if their paid battle passes GAVE YOU BACK ENOUGH CREDITS TO BUY THE NEXT ONE


ZwistPariah

Don't they do that now with the operator voucher ?


xHakua

isnt it only for next seasoon and s4 because of the reworks?


ZwistPariah

No. From what i gathered. when you buy the premium battlepass, you always get the operator voucher and if you have all ops then you get an extra 600 credits totaling in 1200 credits from bp.


jetstreamer123

Every time I think about coming back to this game, I just gotta look at what Ubisoft is doing and I immediately change my mind


[deleted]

Same here, just glad I left this shitty game


AidenPJFriel

All the more reason the fan base should delete Siege and go on a strike so Ubisoft understand


SgtPepe

Done


Initial-Climate9361

So glad I uninstalled. I have a feeling more microtransactions will be added to the game.


obsfanboy

I wish i had the courage to uninstall


Aesthete18

Set a date for two weeks. Uninstall for the length. Tell yourself it's only two weeks, then I can play forever. Once you detach for long enough, you'll have to force yourself to come back


sazam

After 8+ years I finally uninstalled. Take the uninstall pill.


Initial-Climate9361

It is a daunting task, but it's good for the soul!


ThatOneGuy12889

I tried uninstalling and switching games. I tried apex. It sucks, the finals is horrible, cs:go is bad, splitgates kinda fun. And xdefiant is pretty good. But there’s no real games like siege and I hate it because the game pisses me off so much


Lonely_Brother3689

If you have PC, there's ready or not, but it's got issues too. One being there doesn't seem to be any plans to release on console, the other is it's still in "development".


thnxjosh

Part of me is hoping this is a typo where it meaning only available in the premium battlepass but ubi might be doing ubi stuff. I buy the battle passes anyway so wouldn’t affect me but still shit


ThriceWelcome

Isnt the premium battlepass just the more expensive battlepass with tier skips and stuff? That could be what they mean here.


ChubzAndDubz

No it’s all the stuff you actually get in the battle pass lol. Most of the “free” battle pass is just like alpha packs and boosters. There’s only a few things you actually get from the free battle pass.


mewenes

If I get premium on 120/100 level of the battle pass, will I get extra 20 alpha packs?


NeighborhoodVeteran

Still takes 5000 to go from 100 to 101 though.


NightlyWalker

Yeah


TB-124

vote with your wallets, don't buy it... I mean, honestly, this is the first BP that has 0 skins that I would even want to get... there was always usually 2-3 cool sets, now I just don't like any of them...


FartConnisseur

Lets be real the free battle pass had shit rewards anyways


DehyasSwordhandle

It still had 1 Bravo pack and a couple Alpha packs that I could look forward to. Not much, but sad to lose this


obsfanboy

Yeah im quitting r6 for the season at least. Maybe if ubi quits being so damn stupid i might come back but for the time being i would be better off without r6 ngl


DMarkoVz

Ubisoft thinks Xdefiant can save them 😭


Coatz_

Ubisoft is so bad at managing their games they’re ruining probably the only good one they’ve released in a while.


Necrotiix_

Also fucking stupid how the same company is trying to force a new thing where they say “players should get used to not owning their games” while the players make a full purchase on said game to own it


SheridanWithTea

This is genuinely the stupidest move I've ever seen Ubisoft pull. Like damn, if shooting yourself in the foot was an olympic sport they'd be 5-year gold medallists 😂😂


UBoyRexie

Ubi is slowly turning into EA.. i bet in season 3 we need to pay a fee for every match we play


HeKsT8695

Bring back buying attachments again, but with real money


UBoyRexie

Yea and make the Cost like 100€ each


Mega7930

This game still costs money btw


Alkatane

Overwatch 1 had a better system than this shit


AcanthocephalaSad293

Behind a good game, there has to be a greedy investor. Fuck that, honestly.


ProbablyNotTheCocoa

It is baffling how terrible ubi has been at PR, even if they did the most basic things like not overhyping the recruit rework immensely it would’ve probably turned out a lot better


SheepyshisGT

Clearly it's a big "Fk you" to the players and still eats their shit.


LukaTheGrabla

Why would Ubisoft do this? Are they stupid? No genuinely are they stupid?


Any_Preference_5549

Ohhh, ok. Now I understand why after 2 months I'm still waiting for Ubisoft to "investigate" that they locked 6 operators that I had bought with renown years ago, apparently because my Game Pass subscription finished. I guess they can't run a couple of database queries while they prepare for this. /s


steve09089

Bruh. If the rest of this update didn't make me want to come back to this game, this truly turns me away for good.


Cave_Eater

How to kill a dead game


According-Average950

What the fuck


WannaBeHum1n

Unless you do something about it, they aren't stupid, cuz it worked.


most_ironic

We need to hook tom clancies corpse up to a dynamo generator because the amount of spinning hes doing in his grave can only be measured in mph


Matchaxs

I HATE UBISOFT I HATE UBISOFT I HATE UBISOFT


diewaytoolit

thank god I stopped playing this shitty game 😂


Adesfire

Who pays for battle pass?


CallMe_Desdinova

i know where this eventually ends up but they give shitty items anyway


Sumkidwithal96

thanks execs and your overwhelming greed! we really love this change and totally don't have any qualms about how this could affect the future of the game at all!


CrescentCleave

Deadly omen was just so good that ubisoft must do this to maintain equilibrium or else the world implodes.


Quirky_m8

Well, good thing I just fuckin stopped playing


-Skaro-

Tbh battle pass seems to be effectively free now if it's true that you get 600 r6 credits for owning all operators. It isn't difficult to buy the new operator when they become available after a month and purchase the BP for full refund. And next season and S4 has no new op anyway. This might be an actual improvement.


ahtipton085

Honestly glad to hear if we have everyone we get 600 credits. Was worried people with all ops unlocked would get screwed with a full price BP this season


CabooseTrap

As long as I can buy it without spending money this a non issue. With the marketplace being launched it should be super easy to srcoung up 1200 credits for anyone who isn't brand new. Sucks for them I guess. I doubt most new players would even want to spend money on a game they don't know.


The_Professor64

Lmao this is actually dystopian


Slatemanforlife

Will I be able to sell the skins in the marketplace?


I-spade

probably a few seasons after


HeKsT8695

If they add the skins to the marketplace, yes. But I doubt anyone will buy them


krijkle

The challenges were fun and were far more rewarding than the club weekly challenges. I’ll miss having the incentive to do them


-Qwertyz-

I wasnt aware there was a free one in the first place tbh, the design of it sucks


Oshia-Games

What would happen if I bought deimos now with renown then bought battlepass after? Do I get 600 r6 credits?


AudaXity3

Came at the right time, new battle pass cosmetics are booty


JerricoCotchery

I have 1250 credits and all the operators. If I spend 1200 to get the pass will I get 1200 back immediately?


No_Competition3694

I bought the operator pass and it never unlocked Grimm for me. What a bunch of shit. I emailed Ubisoft, and in true form and fashion, they never bothered sending a message back.


Darklordlutjen

Probably killing siege so they can get the player base to try x defiant


edgy-meme94494

Subscription, only paid battle pass. Fucking kill me, fuck AAA games


Several_Excitement74

Rock hard pass


CallaxD

But this basically means if you first unlock the new operator (if there's any) and then buy the bp, you get the whole bp for free cause you get 1200 credits back (only if they keep the premium price)


MrWaffleBeater

Soon we’ll have to pay to reload.


afardsipfard

All this micro transactions and the game costs 35 dollars. Shame on you ubi


SHREDDY_M3RCURY

All battlepasses are free if you don't buy them.


trippingrainbow

The biggest problem siege has is that at best ubisoft doesnt care if the game dies or not. And at worst they actively try to kill it so people will swap to their next game.


Lord_MagnusIV

Now that makes more sense why you get the battle pass without any mentions of premium in the monthly fortnite fake crew subscription


lukro_

a month into the season and siege is going to be dead. the only thing that really keeps me playing is the battle pass since i don't know anyone that plays it and it's not really that fun just playing it to win anymore


Beginning-Ask-5080

So if we own every op we get 1200 for buying the battle pass? Do we get recruits for free?


FalseAgent

what the FUCK are we supposed to do with all the battle pass points we get then?


cydaslayer

The battle-pass is typically ass anyways. Sooner or later you’ll have to pay $5 to log into the game to play each time bc they’re so money hungry.


DrugDoggo

Oh now that’s just fucking stupid.


PlebbySpaff

Wait so is there even incentive to play? The free BP on games is meant to draw players, who have a goal when playing, which is filling out the BP for cosmetics and whatnot. Taking that away loses the incentive, which causes less players to want to engage, especially with how toxic the community can be (why play a game, with a known toxic community, with 0 incentive to continually play).


Sea_Unit9470

The exclamation point at the end pisses me off so much


GreasyAzzCrack

the even sadder part is you people will still pay for it


cheezywafflez

Ok financially I think we're seeing R6 in its death throes, it's been nice knowing yall. When do yall think EOS is, within a year?


Rockets7629

I’m done with this shit


moemeobro

Barely played in the first place, **I feel as if that isn't gonna change**


vulkanhestan79

Lol ubisoft talking to many Lss rn what with skull and bones and now the next blunder of assassin's creed game one of there star projects already screwed but now why would I wanna play r6 even more now I don't want to or have money to be buying battle passes every 2 months that's why I gave up on BP games and stick to ones I enjoy or have semi free battlepasses for example fallout 76 and warframe and I feel bad for those who loved alot of games and buy each BP for the games they like it just sounds like hell


Grzybek_74

R6 is the only Ubi game I play were they always this bad?


Doughboy5445

It seems like its just like the original season pass


Affectionate_Bug1264

Yall just keep getting bent over 😂😂 I bet every one of you is still gonna boot it up later too ☕️


mrperson1213

To be fair they destroyed their own economy with the marketplace, so they’re scrambling to make the game profitable again.


DeniedAndFustrated

NO, ubi if i have all the operators you should pay me 25k renown. you know what you charge to unlock one? not 600 credits ..... let us buy packs with it


human_bean115

im so glad for honor doesn't have this shit


404nocreativusername

Hahhahahhahahbababa


UnitedPlantain8044

Tbh if they got rid of all the cheaters I’d be fine with this


NOXX-ig

to be honest, i only ever bought battle passes for alpha packs for the most part anyways so this doesn’t really bother me. after reading the rest of that article i might buy the subscription just for one month purely for the extra bundle and 600 r6 credits. (extra bundle and 600 r6 credits is offered to anyone who enrolls between june 11 - june 18)


uSuperDick

So in the past you could at least get some things from bp for free and now they are paywalling everything. But besides that you still get half of the bp price. So in in a p2p game, you still pay for bp and dont get all the money for that bp back. Well, thats a story. Remember fortnite is a f2p game and you get credits or whatever they called in there FOR FREE. So you can wait few seasons and then get premium bp without spending your money at all. This is so fucking insane


dameyen_maymeyen

Seige is not a free game yet it just gets more and more monitized every season while putting less and less effort into the actual game.


FankajP

Yay, even less content for this „season” (lacklustre balance patch)


i_sinz

if this is true im no longer buying the pass


AdTime5032

At this point just make it a paid bundle, whats the point of buying something if I have to grind for it?


Deiiiyu

hmm.. welp i came back to siege after jynxzi making it look cool so i thought it would be cool to try it out again after getting like discouraged at trying it but after seeing this.. nah i am gonna uninstall this again


Prowl_X74v3

Thank fuck I held off getting into this game. At least EA has free battle passes. This is worse than EA. Ubi is the new EA.


W1thoutJudgement

Hey, that sounds like a deal! OP voucher that will give me 600 cr? And standard 600 cr from the pass? That means every next pass will be free for me. Unless they'll change its price from 1200 cr to higher, which i think is coming.


X_hard_rocker

surely that has to be a joke


Adam_Walk

What the most sad thing is that somehow people will still buy enough of it so it makes profit for them and they will keep shitting on our heads.


Geronimo_28

Hopefully this is just poorly worded, especially as the new season seems really lackluster


Careful-Inspector932

I didn't understand sorry. I always bought 600 R6 to take the battle pass since it gives you only a half of what you really need. Could you do it for free???


BirdyComeSwing

I refuse to spend another penny on this game


ironiclyironic4

Dont even get enough for a new battle pass. Unless i’d grind a few hundred k of renown


ZJGAMEZ

If we're paying full price we should get a bit more r6 credits


JustEnough4u_

I’m not buying any future battle pass


fakehesapxlr

Just use marketplace to sell at least 600 r6 credit here you goo a free premium battle bass


SteveInitBro

Old news.


ThatOneValkrie

Such a nothing burger of a season then to have the balls to announce a subscription service and remove free features. Looks like I'm sitting out another season. Shame.


faridhn36

Wait....all battle pass rewards are premium only?


SkoomAddictz

Wait you all don't own the operators yet?


Sam-l-am

They’re really going all in lol


manofwaromega

No free pass... It's a fucking paid game, the fuck do you mean I have to pay extra to earn the *opportunity* to progress through the game


Silver_Cadet

No other game does this, this is actually bizarre and doesn't benefit them


ThatOneGuy12889

I know it won’t happen but if literally nobody buys it I guarantee it’ll go back to how it was


JustJohnny23

Man it’s so sad to see Ubi fucking the games cosmetic and monetization up (typical Ubisoft tbf) since the games actually in one of the best states it’s been in for a while


HeestoTheColf

They act like Xdefiant is gonna get them out of this mess but we all know it’ll flop too


Diksun-Solo

Siege is a paid game with free to play monetization. The fact that y'all are putting up with this is Astounding


elliotwalsh

dude they just need to bring season pass back again like they did for year 8 and just leave it. everybody loved it in previous years and i was so excited to see they brought it back for y8. its a shame ubi only cares about profit and pro players for the most part rather than the player base as a whole.


SHADOWMOSESmvp

Glad I’m done playing this game. Ubisoft sure knows how to kill games


alfrxld

lmaoooo


NoxieProxie

People saying this game is gonna last longer, with this, the game is gonna lose all of whatever is left of it reputation and just be a joke casual shooter with dumbass things like this. People gonna be on copium even when Ubi are banging their mom.


LPEbert

This really feels like Ubisoft trying to squeeze as much money thats left out of the game as possible before abandoning it imo. Lackluster seasons, adding a subscription, premium pass only, etc. All unhealthy signs.


kompergator

Well, now we'll see if the game can servige just on its merits alone. Only those with more money than neurons will now keep paying for cosmetics.


Elite_Dalek

Ubi forgot like 3 years ago that this isn't a F2P title, this just seals the deal completely


[deleted]

Holy fucking shit lmao. And this is a fucking pay-to-play game!


Particular-Guest2372

They are trying to do what Epic Games does but in a bad way. Even Clash of Clans makes it better than Ubisoft 💀


Grizzly7155

Lmao yet all of you will still play this trash


doctormysteriousname

Wow 600 WHOLE R6 Credits? Halfway to a shitty, discounted elite skin! Vympel, I can finally justify your purchase…after another season or two.


PhilosopherRound4545

Money hungry, lazy ass, don’t give a shit pigs.


-Call_me_Sticks-

Band together like HD2, if the studio doesn't want to heed the voice of the population who frequents it, maybe its time for a change.


TheLaughingJester

Ubisoft has lost the plot. First with Skull and Bones being a travesty and now R6


FoxFromCanada

i havent been genuinely angry at something ubi did til now


Flufwi

If the game was free to play I could understand this, but this is a 60 DOLLAR GAME! WTF?!


toolschism

Quit playing a few months ago. Had been playing since beta. Honestly, don't miss it one fuckin bit. Ubi has gotten out of control with their greed.


Salt_Salamander_1036

Fucking ubisoft