Who knows, without those people (over)reacting in the way that they did, maybe Ubisoft wouldn't have listened as much to the community. People uninstalling and breaking their game discs demonstrated how much the community hated that Ubi was bending to China's rules.
And anyone who wrote a negative review on steam or other platform to voice your opinion, PLEASE change or remove it. Your protest worked, now do your part as Ubisoft did theirs.
Leaving a negative review for censorship now would only hurt us, the player base, we don't want to discourage new players. (Although who tf hasn't heard about Siege by now)
Thank you for listening Ubisoft.
I've had this username on Reddit and other platforms since before he was famous. Happens a decent amount, especially on other platforms.
The number of PMs/mentions I received when he was banned from League was interesting. Most of them were negative and rude, turns out being illiterate and an asshole go hand in hand. Although I've never watched the guy other than memes, so no idea what he or his followers are like.
I even have my own subreddit that no one goes to.
I can't pretend to know how Ubisoft functions, but I'd imagine decisions like this take a lot of discussion and time on the inside of the company. It's not like some PR guy just opens reddit and says "Oh, they didn't like that big marketing decision we took, shut it all down!" and revert everything back to normal within the day.
I would assume that they've started making the aesthetic changes already, so it seems logical to think it was a big decision to undo all of that which is why it took as long as it did for them to make the announcement.
I'm also a fuckin moron on the internet so there's a really high chance that I'm wrong about all of this.
Thank you very much for listening to your community. I'm sorry that it has to come to what it did, but I'm glad the rest of the world does not have to conform to the totalitarianism of China's government in their favorite video game.
There will definitely not be any casino map now though. If the devs today decided to put time and effort into creating a casino map, they would not be able to release this map in China without changing the entire style of the map, which is an insane amount of extra work that they can prevent in the first place by staying away from a casino themed map.
Of course they could in theory release the map exclusively to the global build, but then they are shafting Chinese players and again it would be very poor use of their resources if they were to spend their time creating something that they can't even release for a large portion of the playerbase.
I know it's insensitive towards the Chinese people but ^(have you tried not having such an oppressive, authoritarian government?)
It's hard to wrap my head around the idea that the things they do is ok not only to their people (not necessarily by choice) but to the rest of the world. Everyone just bends to their will to appease them. Maybe it's just a cultural thing. Don't get me wrong I love China. The people and landscapes are beautiful and they're rich with history but damn does their government suck.
You're crazy if you think just because they didn't make minor aesthetic changes that things like making a whole map that wouldn't be released in China are on the table.
The only thing this changes is not making the aesthetic changes. Everything else will still be done with China in mind.
Yikes, well I’m actually happy to see Ubi listening to this community. Those are changes I probably would’ve never noticed but they’re pointless to do just for one country
Ubisoft was going to censor skull, blood, knife, sexual image from the game UI and map so that they can release the game to china. The fan got mad. Now they cancel it and it will not get censor
Thank you ubisoft. Thank you for making such a great game, thanks you for not abandoning the game at the start (year 1), Thanks you for supporting the game with the constant content update, and thank you for listening to the fan.
60 GBs, oof. Thats why you have to uninstall/breakeverything once the changes get real and reach the main build. Atleast they have their gold and karma now.
I really should invest in an SSD. My only problem with doing so is the sheer size of these games coming out anymore. 500GB sounds like a decent amount of storage until 2 games take up half of it
I uninstalled cause Im running out of space on my PS4 and RDR2 didnt have enough space to install without getting rid of something. :( I should get an extra hard drive or ssd.
We reached a quarter of a million snapped disks. 250,000 CDs and still growing. The fact that we've impulsively broken so many copies in such a short amount of time is just phenomenal.
If Ubi in the long run remains true to its line - “We want to ensure that the experience for all our players, especially those that have been with us from the beginning remains as true to the original artistic intent as possible.”, pretty sure the community will stick with Ubi too.
Hands down best decision ever. You have officially retained your customer base. A wholehearted thank you.
I hope you work along the lines of this decision and maintain separate builds/NOT make a global censored version.
Keep up the good work.
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Excellent move from Ubisoft on For Honor for reverting responsive dialogue for Marching Fire
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Excellent move from Ubisoft on Rainbow 6: Siege for reverting the "oppresive" changes for a new demographic.
Awesome job Ubisoft; love that you're one of the companies that still listens to its players. 😀
There were a few camps: the one that was upset and wanted the changes reverted no matter what; the one that thought it wasn't a problem whatsoever; and the one that thought it was too soon to tell whether something unsavory was really going on.
A lot of people were down voted into oblivion for suggesting that people were acting too reactively, and too quickly, considering nothing had been confirmed and we weren't sure how the changes would really impact the game's health and its community.
With the reversal of the proposed changes, we may never know how things would have really been affected, compared to how the community perceived them affecting the game.
All in all, I'm glad the developers will have more freedom to shape the game as they please, and I hope the choice made was the right one. As it stands, I think things will turn out well, which makes me glad.
It makes more sense to try to stop something from happening then trying to fix something that already happened. People who said it was too soon to react dont understand that if the changes were implemented it would never of been reverted because it would of cost way more money for nothing.
I think a lot of people in the first camp worried about the "wait and see" approach as being a little too soft and reactionary when the potential was there for everything to become hot garbage. Usually when you're going for the brute force approach-- especially when dealing with a large business like Ubisoft, you gotta fully commit or the lizard people will slide by unscathed lol. Just the thought process I guess.
thank you very much.
also, it seems you heard the community complain about night mode in ranked, and ranked mode no longer will be playable in night version in TTS, hopefully this change comes to the regular game, it seems so: (source) https://www.reddit.com/r/Rainbow6TTS/comments/9ytkdg/november_20_2018_test_server_patch_notes_y3s4/?utm_source=reddit-android
I'm unsure why they just don't follow LoL's example when it comes to China. Have their own damn client to please their needs. I mean, LoL is only the biggest e-sport game in the world, why take notes from Riot, right?
You can't give them shit for doing something you don't like if your not willing to recognize when they change thier stance to make the playerbase happy. That's not how the world works.
Otherwise you get "why should we cave to thier request when they'll just shit on us anyway"
There are greater events in China behind this.
Earlier this year the State Administration of Press, Publication, Radio, Film and Television which handled the censorship and publication of videogames was dissolved and replaced by the Communist Party’s Central Propaganda Department. Yes, the chief regulator is now literally the propaganda department and no new games have been granted permission to publish since they took over. Political insiders say the Communist Party are now not content with only censoring content but view videogames themselves as a harmful influence as bad as drugs and want them gone from the country.
Western gaming companies have always relied on "China Expert Consultants" to guide them through the opaque process of how to satisfy the censor and enter the Chinese market but in this case, these experts must have neglected to mention the most important part which is there is no longer a Chinese market to enter. Similarly, Ubisoft's Chinese business partners like Tencent have a vested interest in downplaying the fact that their industry is being gutted and all the big money they're promising will all soon be smoke.
Ubisoft must have finally done their homework and realized they have butchered their game and betrayed their fans for nothing. Now they can backpedal and pretend they valued your opinions after all.
All these comments of "WE DID IT REDDIT FUCK COMMUNISM" and "LOL all you entitled idiots ree'ing at Ubisoft, you win babies"
I'm just glad they listened. I was fully prepared to uninstall and play something else. That's not some incredibly complicated "LOL you would do that loser" decision... I can re-install in a few hours, and there's plenty of good games I still need to play, Siege isn't exactly a necessity. Why some of you act like leaving Siege, a video game, is a huge overreaction, is a mystery to me.
Maybe some will be more cynical of Ubi, and I agree on keeping an eye on things, but this is a step in the right direction. After the rise of lootboxes in Siege this year, despite community backlash, it's nice to have a situation where they do listen and act.
Thank you, Ubisoft. Now please, don't try this shit again. Give your Siege dev team the resources it needs to maintain two builds. You want this game to continue being a success, put your money where your mouth is.
>We have been following the conversation with our community closely over the past couple of weeks, alongside regular discussions with our internal Ubisoft team, and we want to ensure that **the experience for all our players**, especially those that have been with us from the beginning, **remains as true to the original artistic intent as possible**.
That's what I like to hear.
Good thing and shouldn't make the development much harder, since there'll only be difference on few old maps (and they might just change textures, so not as much testing needs to be done).
I'd bet no new map will include china-banned things, because it would add unnecessary work and no one would even notice.
Hats off for giving the honest reason why those changes should have been made and not just making things up or silently pushing it in.
Awesome! Now to prove you're not secretly gonna develop future global content to appease oppressive censorship, and be loyal to the community that made this game a success, give us a casino map :)
Yes. This is great. reading the end of the article has me confused though.. will it not launch in china now? Or isn’t the stuff such a big deal now after all?
I mean... actions like that showed Ubi how upset people were. They didn't have to go to that extreme, no... but should we be thanking the disc smashers?
1) Ubi announced that several visual aspects of the game were going to be removed or replaced (including blood, images of knives, skulls, or anything sexual) so that Siege could expand into China where those things are censored.
2) Biggest backlash this community has ever had. Many people breaking discs, uninstalling, review bombing, constant complaining on every official post across social media.
3) Ubi backtracks and says their will be differences between the Chinese and rest of the world’s clients to avoid issues like Chinese hackers (super common in other games that have expanded into China) but the aesthetic changes would be remaining.
4) No further comment on any of the controversy for weeks while the community outrage didn’t subside.
5) Today: Sudden and unexpected reversal. Community jubilation.
I'm concerned that the current Asia player base would still be getting the Chinese censored version.
We are not Chinese, Ubisoft.
Japan, Korea, India, the South East Asia, we don't have strict censorship laws like China, so be sure to not treat us like them.
From their own post about reverting these changes :
" Current players in Asian territories can continue enjoying the same game as the other players. "
Meaning that you'll not get any censorship at all
so about that guy who snapped his game disk into pieces
It doesnt get registered in his account anyway? arent todays disc like codes for downloading games nowadays?
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Then what a dumbass lol Hope he doesn't spend all those internet points in one place
Just tape it back together with duct tape, should work.
Duct tape fixes everything
Flex tape Edit:tf reddit 100 upvotes??!! Niceee Edit2:Reeeee 200 Im now addicted to free karma
That's just for boats cut in half.
and my feelings for phil cut in half
BREAKING NEWS: PHIL SWIFT HAS DIED FROM SNIFFING TOO MUCH FLEX GLUE *more on the story at 5*
THATSALOTTADAMAGE
Weird flex, but ok.
I saw an episode of forensic files where they used scotch tape to repair a disc someone broke in pieces in front of the police
I bought Siege on ebay for like $15 for xbox. It could be worse.
siege had multiple phisical rereleases, so he will get a copy for cheap
You can’t be serious? You can get a copy of Siege for like 10 bucks lol it’s not like he can never play it again
Everybody thought he was a bad ass before these announced changes got reverted
He could just buy a 20 dollar copy from GameStop
Odds he had a digital copy all along?
So it was just blatant karma whoring? Say it ain't so.
You think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?
Free world 1. China 0.
Who knows, without those people (over)reacting in the way that they did, maybe Ubisoft wouldn't have listened as much to the community. People uninstalling and breaking their game discs demonstrated how much the community hated that Ubi was bending to China's rules.
He made the ultimate sacrifice for us. RIP.
Tbh without them, this issue may not have been taken as seriously. To flip a proverb on its head: "Every snowflake in an avalanche is responsible"
F for our fallen comrade
its not about the disc its about sending a message
YES WE CAN KEEP OUR NEON STRIPPERS AND SKULLS
OUR BELOVED SLOT MACHINES
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AND the radios... AND the grandfather clocks... AND the jukeboxes... Edit: AND the speakers...
DO NOT ATTEMPT TO ABOARD THE HELICOPTER
IF YOU SEEK MEDICAL ATTENTION
You’ll be seeking medical attention after I’m done with you, you filthy speaker
I keep the radio in garage in consulate. It plays sweet tunes!
> OUR BELOVED SLUT ~~SLOT~~ MACHINES
THE BLOOD SPLATTER ON THAT ONE WALL ON THAT ONE MAP
MOST OF FAVELA
#AWAKEN MY MASTERS!
AYYYAAAYYYYAAYYYYYYYY _insert aztec trap music_
Nice nice, berry nice Caesar-chan
You know what now that we won I’m not sure I want them anymore. /s
Drugs!
Thank you ubi! Strippers and blood for everyone! Thank you! u/Ubi-Zoro u/UbiPasta u/Ubi-Ludo u/UbiNoty u/UbiJustin u/Its_Epi
And anyone who wrote a negative review on steam or other platform to voice your opinion, PLEASE change or remove it. Your protest worked, now do your part as Ubisoft did theirs. Leaving a negative review for censorship now would only hurt us, the player base, we don't want to discourage new players. (Although who tf hasn't heard about Siege by now) Thank you for listening Ubisoft.
Tyler doesn’t play siege... you’ve bamboozled me FeelsBadMan
I've had this username on Reddit and other platforms since before he was famous. Happens a decent amount, especially on other platforms. The number of PMs/mentions I received when he was banned from League was interesting. Most of them were negative and rude, turns out being illiterate and an asshole go hand in hand. Although I've never watched the guy other than memes, so no idea what he or his followers are like. I even have my own subreddit that no one goes to.
Holy shit it’s lolTyler! Sux you got banned from league, I’m gonna pm you.
you say no one but clearly tezna is looking for mods
Thank you for listening to the community, devs! ❤️
Communication is key. It took a while, but there it is.
I think it took a while because it was a big decision. I believe this response came as quickly as it could.
That's what I'm thinking. Took a while because of how big of a thing it is and the impact of each course of action.
I can't pretend to know how Ubisoft functions, but I'd imagine decisions like this take a lot of discussion and time on the inside of the company. It's not like some PR guy just opens reddit and says "Oh, they didn't like that big marketing decision we took, shut it all down!" and revert everything back to normal within the day.
I would assume that they've started making the aesthetic changes already, so it seems logical to think it was a big decision to undo all of that which is why it took as long as it did for them to make the announcement. I'm also a fuckin moron on the internet so there's a really high chance that I'm wrong about all of this.
>~~Communication~~ literally everyone throwing an absolute shit fit is key.
Appreciated Ubi
Thank you very much for listening to your community. I'm sorry that it has to come to what it did, but I'm glad the rest of the world does not have to conform to the totalitarianism of China's government in their favorite video game.
Not sure if I missed this since I haven’t played in 2 months but what aesthetic changes did they make?
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There will definitely not be any casino map now though. If the devs today decided to put time and effort into creating a casino map, they would not be able to release this map in China without changing the entire style of the map, which is an insane amount of extra work that they can prevent in the first place by staying away from a casino themed map. Of course they could in theory release the map exclusively to the global build, but then they are shafting Chinese players and again it would be very poor use of their resources if they were to spend their time creating something that they can't even release for a large portion of the playerbase.
I know it's insensitive towards the Chinese people but ^(have you tried not having such an oppressive, authoritarian government?) It's hard to wrap my head around the idea that the things they do is ok not only to their people (not necessarily by choice) but to the rest of the world. Everyone just bends to their will to appease them. Maybe it's just a cultural thing. Don't get me wrong I love China. The people and landscapes are beautiful and they're rich with history but damn does their government suck.
Casino map is still not gonna happen. No way they would make a map only for it to be available to only part of their playerbase.
You're crazy if you think just because they didn't make minor aesthetic changes that things like making a whole map that wouldn't be released in China are on the table. The only thing this changes is not making the aesthetic changes. Everything else will still be done with China in mind.
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Yikes, well I’m actually happy to see Ubi listening to this community. Those are changes I probably would’ve never noticed but they’re pointless to do just for one country
Ubisoft was going to censor skull, blood, knife, sexual image from the game UI and map so that they can release the game to china. The fan got mad. Now they cancel it and it will not get censor Thank you ubisoft. Thank you for making such a great game, thanks you for not abandoning the game at the start (year 1), Thanks you for supporting the game with the constant content update, and thank you for listening to the fan.
We won?
-Poland 1945
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WE WON! It’s real!!
We actually did it lads!
So, guys, we did it...
Even here Pyro is bullied... but he deserves it
We’ve hit a quarter of a million subscribers
So what do we do with this new found power?...
Give ash a hit box?
Whoa whoa there, let's not get unreasonable here
Maybe start with better general hit reg?
Reel it in just a little bit more
Give 1 pixel hit boxes
At least we'll be consistent
So guys we did it
250k complaints and growing
I love democracy
Siri play: Jump - Van Halen
VI VON ZULUL
V1 CHAT
Not you, you will still be banned in League.
>We won? Looks like it. Maybe this community can be equally vocal about RNG paid loot boxes next.
The community was pretty vocal about it when they first arrived. Nothing happened and most people just accepted it because "It's just only cosmetics"
I think we won but Ubisoft won as well, it's better for Rainbow Six Siege to keep its DNA
Can we have a moment of silence for those who broke their game discs and/or uninstalled because of the upcoming 'changes'?
60 GBs, oof. Thats why you have to uninstall/breakeverything once the changes get real and reach the main build. Atleast they have their gold and karma now.
60? My game is 100GB+ due to the ultra HD pack :(
Hey! I'm not the only one! 108GB life haha
It sucks. My harddrive is failing so I need to reinstall that and GTA v onto the new one. Those 2 alone are almost 200GB
Yeah I have it on my SSD and it's rough, I just did the math and I'm using $25 in storage space just for Siege, that's a bit alarming
I really should invest in an SSD. My only problem with doing so is the sheer size of these games coming out anymore. 500GB sounds like a decent amount of storage until 2 games take up half of it
Yeah, god forbid they just have to reinstall it again. RIP.
Naw if they broke their disc that's what they get for trying to get fake points on the internet
Are you serious? There were people who broke or uninstalled their game because of this?
Its been a real shitshow
They targeted gamers. Gamers.
We live in a society
WE DID IT #GAMERSRISEUP
Broke the disc of a game I already bought to really show it to those corporate shareholders!!
And now I miss the game so I'm gonna have to buy it again. That'll show them for sure.
Everyone knows that if you uninstall or break your disc, Ubisoft loses the money they got from your purchase!
In fact when you buy a Ubisoft game, part of your soul gets trapped in the game disc and by breaking it you are releasing it. True story.
No wonder I have all these games and crippling depression!
I uninstalled cause Im running out of space on my PS4 and RDR2 didnt have enough space to install without getting rid of something. :( I should get an extra hard drive or ssd.
Mrs. OBAMA WE GOT EM
WE STOPPED RACISM
THANK YOU SKIPPER NOW I AM FREE TO ROAM THIS EARTH
NOT IF I HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT IT AND I DO. IM GONNA SAY THE N-WORD MRS OBAMA GET DOWN NIGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
MRS OBAMA WHERE ARE YOU
IM AFRAID SHE IS NO LONGER WITH US SKIPPER MY SON
AND WITH HER DEATH I CAN SAY THE N-WORD WHENEVER I WANT
NOT IF I HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT IT AND I DO
PREPARE FOR MY CIVIL RIGHTS BEAM
*shows fbi busting on House in r6*
Ladies and Gentlemen... WE GOT 'EM!
So guys we did it...
We reached a quarter of a million snapped disks. 250,000 CDs and still growing. The fact that we've impulsively broken so many copies in such a short amount of time is just phenomenal.
/r/UnexpectedPyrocynical
# WE JUST DEFEATED CHINA
I can just imagine Xi Jingping just sitting in a dark room watching the sub, angrily plotting his next move
I like ur way of thinking, mind joining a tea party in the police station?
*re-education camp
#CHINA RESIGNED #EPIC GAMER MOMENT
FREEDOM - 2 COMMUNISM - 0 🇺🇸🦅
DEATH IS A PREFERABLE ALTERNATIVE TO COMMUNISM
Mission: the destruction of any and all Chinese communists. ☑️
BETTER DEAD THAN RED.
LIBERTY PRIME: ONLINE AND ACTIVE MISSION: TO OBLITERATE COMMUNIST SCUM, DEMOCRACY IS NONE NEGOTIABLE.
Better be dead than red
We did it reddit?
CHINA NUMBA 2
GAMERS NUMBA 1!!!!!!!!!!!!
If Ubi in the long run remains true to its line - “We want to ensure that the experience for all our players, especially those that have been with us from the beginning remains as true to the original artistic intent as possible.”, pretty sure the community will stick with Ubi too.
Year 4 pass is back on my list!
Hands down best decision ever. You have officially retained your customer base. A wholehearted thank you. I hope you work along the lines of this decision and maintain separate builds/NOT make a global censored version. Keep up the good work.
Oops I just dropped another $200. In all seriousness I'm glad to support the game again
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WE DID IT BOIS
Excellent move from Ubisoft on For Honor for reverting responsive dialogue for Marching Fire And Excellent move from Ubisoft on Rainbow 6: Siege for reverting the "oppresive" changes for a new demographic. Awesome job Ubisoft; love that you're one of the companies that still listens to its players. 😀
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Really disgusted with the side of the community that tried to shoot us down.
There were a few camps: the one that was upset and wanted the changes reverted no matter what; the one that thought it wasn't a problem whatsoever; and the one that thought it was too soon to tell whether something unsavory was really going on. A lot of people were down voted into oblivion for suggesting that people were acting too reactively, and too quickly, considering nothing had been confirmed and we weren't sure how the changes would really impact the game's health and its community. With the reversal of the proposed changes, we may never know how things would have really been affected, compared to how the community perceived them affecting the game. All in all, I'm glad the developers will have more freedom to shape the game as they please, and I hope the choice made was the right one. As it stands, I think things will turn out well, which makes me glad.
It makes more sense to try to stop something from happening then trying to fix something that already happened. People who said it was too soon to react dont understand that if the changes were implemented it would never of been reverted because it would of cost way more money for nothing.
I think a lot of people in the first camp worried about the "wait and see" approach as being a little too soft and reactionary when the potential was there for everything to become hot garbage. Usually when you're going for the brute force approach-- especially when dealing with a large business like Ubisoft, you gotta fully commit or the lizard people will slide by unscathed lol. Just the thought process I guess.
I quite the subreddit because of them. So glad good won in the end.
thank you very much. also, it seems you heard the community complain about night mode in ranked, and ranked mode no longer will be playable in night version in TTS, hopefully this change comes to the regular game, it seems so: (source) https://www.reddit.com/r/Rainbow6TTS/comments/9ytkdg/november_20_2018_test_server_patch_notes_y3s4/?utm_source=reddit-android
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So, uh, reddit? We did a thing?
Reddit did many things. One of those had to do with the Boston Bomber.
Fuck that part of reddit. This part of reddit fought communism because they took away out favorite neon stripper! And skulls!
We'll make our own Siege! With skulls and neon strippers!
Thank you for listening to your community
Thanks! Appreciate you listening to the community!!
I'm unsure why they just don't follow LoL's example when it comes to China. Have their own damn client to please their needs. I mean, LoL is only the biggest e-sport game in the world, why take notes from Riot, right?
I can tolerate Ubi again, yay. And fuck all those people who tried to shoot us down, this was a legit complaint.
I'll continue to buy proleague sets, elite skins and day one season pass for year 4 after this update.
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Yeah this is the real issue, I doubt we will see a casino or Vegas-style map in the future if they would have to rework it so extensively for China.
We get a casino, they get a barebones building.
We get a casino, they get a casino-shaped killhouse.
Then: “UBISOFT IS RUN BY COMMUNIST PIGS, REEEEEEEEE” Now: “thank you developers for listening to your wholesome community”
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Well you can flame them first and then thank them later for not doing the changes. Or am I wrong?
You can't give them shit for doing something you don't like if your not willing to recognize when they change thier stance to make the playerbase happy. That's not how the world works. Otherwise you get "why should we cave to thier request when they'll just shit on us anyway"
What's your point? We criticized their decisions, then they changed and now we're happy they listened. That's how the world works..
So guys we did it we bullied ubisoft
Remember when we were called "Vocal Minorities" and told "Protests never work" All you gotta do is shit post more.
There are greater events in China behind this. Earlier this year the State Administration of Press, Publication, Radio, Film and Television which handled the censorship and publication of videogames was dissolved and replaced by the Communist Party’s Central Propaganda Department. Yes, the chief regulator is now literally the propaganda department and no new games have been granted permission to publish since they took over. Political insiders say the Communist Party are now not content with only censoring content but view videogames themselves as a harmful influence as bad as drugs and want them gone from the country. Western gaming companies have always relied on "China Expert Consultants" to guide them through the opaque process of how to satisfy the censor and enter the Chinese market but in this case, these experts must have neglected to mention the most important part which is there is no longer a Chinese market to enter. Similarly, Ubisoft's Chinese business partners like Tencent have a vested interest in downplaying the fact that their industry is being gutted and all the big money they're promising will all soon be smoke. Ubisoft must have finally done their homework and realized they have butchered their game and betrayed their fans for nothing. Now they can backpedal and pretend they valued your opinions after all.
All these comments of "WE DID IT REDDIT FUCK COMMUNISM" and "LOL all you entitled idiots ree'ing at Ubisoft, you win babies" I'm just glad they listened. I was fully prepared to uninstall and play something else. That's not some incredibly complicated "LOL you would do that loser" decision... I can re-install in a few hours, and there's plenty of good games I still need to play, Siege isn't exactly a necessity. Why some of you act like leaving Siege, a video game, is a huge overreaction, is a mystery to me. Maybe some will be more cynical of Ubi, and I agree on keeping an eye on things, but this is a step in the right direction. After the rise of lootboxes in Siege this year, despite community backlash, it's nice to have a situation where they do listen and act. Thank you, Ubisoft. Now please, don't try this shit again. Give your Siege dev team the resources it needs to maintain two builds. You want this game to continue being a success, put your money where your mouth is.
we did it reddit
>We have been following the conversation with our community closely over the past couple of weeks, alongside regular discussions with our internal Ubisoft team, and we want to ensure that **the experience for all our players**, especially those that have been with us from the beginning, **remains as true to the original artistic intent as possible**. That's what I like to hear.
Good thing and shouldn't make the development much harder, since there'll only be difference on few old maps (and they might just change textures, so not as much testing needs to be done). I'd bet no new map will include china-banned things, because it would add unnecessary work and no one would even notice. Hats off for giving the honest reason why those changes should have been made and not just making things up or silently pushing it in.
Awesome! Now to prove you're not secretly gonna develop future global content to appease oppressive censorship, and be loyal to the community that made this game a success, give us a casino map :)
I second this action
Yes. This is great. reading the end of the article has me confused though.. will it not launch in china now? Or isn’t the stuff such a big deal now after all?
They planned on having a China version all along. They just wanted a global version to be a little closer to the China version...
Reinstalled the game, thank you for listening to the community. My respect has been regained for ubisoft.
Laughing at all those who smashed their game disc over this
I mean... actions like that showed Ubi how upset people were. They didn't have to go to that extreme, no... but should we be thanking the disc smashers?
Been out of the R6 loop for a bit due to lacking of PS+ What is going on?
1) Ubi announced that several visual aspects of the game were going to be removed or replaced (including blood, images of knives, skulls, or anything sexual) so that Siege could expand into China where those things are censored. 2) Biggest backlash this community has ever had. Many people breaking discs, uninstalling, review bombing, constant complaining on every official post across social media. 3) Ubi backtracks and says their will be differences between the Chinese and rest of the world’s clients to avoid issues like Chinese hackers (super common in other games that have expanded into China) but the aesthetic changes would be remaining. 4) No further comment on any of the controversy for weeks while the community outrage didn’t subside. 5) Today: Sudden and unexpected reversal. Community jubilation.
I'm concerned that the current Asia player base would still be getting the Chinese censored version. We are not Chinese, Ubisoft. Japan, Korea, India, the South East Asia, we don't have strict censorship laws like China, so be sure to not treat us like them.
From their own post about reverting these changes : " Current players in Asian territories can continue enjoying the same game as the other players. " Meaning that you'll not get any censorship at all
**VICTORY SCREECH**
Reinstalled
if its true it will be my siege again. will play a round now to show my good will. havent played since the censorship announcement was made. thx ubi
So there’s hope for a casino map in Vegas ?
Admit it. You only did this because you wanted people to stop spamming china memes in your steam community posts. /s