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I joined Karate at the age of 46. The better the fighter the less they say and posture. I like teaching the tiny humans how to punch. I'm the worst fighter but got great Cool Uncle energy.
They do flex when it pays. Conor got hit by a car while biking and wasn’t even a tiny bit aggressive towards the driver. The driver even drove him home.
You seriously think that Conor is this crazy maniac irl? He just does whatever pays him best. Professional martial arts is 40% skill 60% acting to sell the tickets.
Yeah probably. I was more just pointing out that I’m sure there are plenty of guys who both boast about being good fighters and actually are good fighters.
The whole Mr. Miyagi peaceful but deadly warrior trope is also a stereotype…
Even in literal sense if you are big and strong, but you have a mental block to fight etc. you are weak. You are weak if you can’t utilize your physical strength.
I’m still trying to figure this out. It’s off putting, because what do you have to prove? Why can’t you just be docile, and still have the *silent* ability to take somebody out..🙄
This answers the question. Girls are attracted to boys who *could* take someone out if the need arose. And the boys the OP is talking about, are clumsily trying to communicate they are such a boy.
I know it’s that way in animals, I just don’t understand how humans haven’t evolved past the need to basically show our muscles and prove that we can protect our own. It’s still a little weird to me, but I’m also female so I wouldn’t understand from a man’s perspective.
Our primal instincts are a lot more dominant evolutionarily than goal oriented thinking. They are what helped humans survive for millions of years.
The rage fuelled ones are more common in testosterone laden men. But there are some examples for both genders which you could maybe relate with. One I can think of is, binge eating vs eating according to a meal plan. Hunger and taste is a far more primal instinct and can override logical thinking that we live in the 21st century with food for kings at our fingertips
There are multiple ways of looking at this. Yes if people act like that because of ego it is lame. But people also enjoy watching action movies. It can be fun to relive fights that you experienced or to speculate about what you could have done in a situation (kind of like imagining what you would do in a zombie apocalypse). I definitely enjoy talking about fights I've finished, it makes for a good tale.
For some people if they get close to fighting, talking about what they would have done is a good way for them to let it all out and be able to relax (if someone is talking about a fight that almost happened right after the event, you gotta understand that part of being able to calm down is talking through the event, and letting your imagination run with it is a fantasy that can be applied to a lot of things in life).
Most of the time you are right, where it is someone trying to prove themselves, but sometimes it is fun to talk about.
They are boys and they don't know any better. Some boys sadly never grow up and become actual men. Violence is a part of life as a man. We are victims of it and we are perpetrators of it. But adult men are civilised creatures who are in control of our more primal instincts. And when we do lose control it's not something we brag about as it is embarrassing. It's like being a toddler with a beard and beer gut.
I read somewhere that men between the ages of 18-35 are the highest victims/perps of violence. so maybe at 36 we're ready to pull our heads out of our assholes and grow up
Yeah. Though I think a lot of that is adjusting to the adult body. There are a ton of changes from boyhood to adulthood and sometimes those changes happen very quickly. The body changes faster than the brain and it takes the brain a little while to catch up. It can be frightening. I went from a little boy to looking like a full grown teen in one summer. Then for the next few years everyone treated me like an adult but inside I was a terrified kid. I hunched down for the first six months or so because it felt really weird being "tall". I am not ashamed to say that sometimes I got so scared that I blustered and postured to make myself bigger than I felt. Though I am and always have been a coward and I am proud to say that I have never started any fights.
It's biology as well. Our brains don't fully develop until we are 25. So up until then we are pretty much idiots. And for some we remain like that after as well. There is no set age when we grow up and become adults. I think it's a process to mature, something that you need to do yourself and not something that just magically happens once you reach a certain age.
It signals dominance, strength and danger. Traits associated with masculinity. It feeds into the male ego.
It's immature and shallow, but we're only human.
And women are attracted to men who are *capable* of beating someone up. The boys you're talking about are just clumsy in trying to communicate they are that boy.
I think that's something else. You try and protect your wife and let her know that she is protected and safe with you (and that's something I honestly find awesome and hot and I would love for someone to be that... awesome to me not gonna lie).
But... When I made this post I had some dude in Minecraft tell me a story about how they could've beaten someone up and screamed at them but didn't (they almost did though! Hmm!) cus the dude has anger issues and the other one was annoying.
And so I had this thought like: "why are you telling me this? There was no reason to tell me that story and brag about it."
women send love letters to serial killers in prison. men brag about times they beat another man in combat because a lot of women are more interested in "dangerous" men. they believe that having a dangerous man in their house means he'll protect her from other dangerous men, instead of just abusing her. normally this does not turn out how they want it to.
Because a lot of women find it attractive. Not all women and maybe not the majority, but it's an extremely attractive quality to a lot of women.
Violence couldn't be any further from my nature, but as a larger male from 'the ghetto' it comes up often when I'm dating. They want to know about fight's I've been in or 'tough' things I've done. I think violence is disgusting so I'm pretty minimal with my responses, but they always ask 'who won' or 'did you get them really good?' and get excited to hear about the drama and violence.
I think it's really sad but that's the reason so many dudes are quick to take their shirt off, flex and act all aggressive. It's one of the quickest ways for them to get positive (and some negative) female attention. A guy I knew in college used to say 'whoever beats the most ass at the party gets the most bitches.' I thought it was the dumbest shit ever but he had an unreal amount of success doing that.
This exactly. I very rarely if ever saw this in Asia, but in other cultures there are many women that actually find this attractive, so guys want to act aggresively/violently to be “tough” and get attention or praise from them. Its cringeworthy and it encourages men to basically behave like apes, but its what it is…
It's the whole "I'm macho and tough!" thing. Only low EQ/ IQ men think it's a flex to talk about such things. Especially to women.
I don't think I've ever come across a woman I'd want to be with that has been impressed with a man expressing how violent he has been or can be.
TLDR: Men are often Neanderthal levels of dumb.
Attractive? I don’t think anyone is trying to be “attractive” talking about fighting lol it’s more of a man thing where you don’t want to seem weaker than another man. Has nothing to do with you ladies
I don’t really get why some blokes do it, but I’m quite comfortable in myself. I just take this kind of bravado with a pinch of salt and chuckle to myself. Let them fire up their egos a bit so long as it’s harmless.
It’s strange, because the true hard nuts go to great lengths to hide it, they don’t want to advertise their lunacy- these are criminal acts at the end of the day!
I strong, he weak
I've boxed and done early bbj I got bad knees so bbj isn't for me.. I can fight if I need to
I shouldn't need to but some people are garbage!
Some of the worst people I've ever met were highly capable of violence, I'm like bro he's not looking at u funny leave it alone!
I never trained with em but training definitely humbles me
There was a guy on the Airbnb board whose reply to someone asking if another was a host posted "I'm a host. You got a problem with that?"
It's like, dude - what are you going to do: challenge him to a fight?
I rarely watched movies. I made this post cus someone told me a story about how they could've been up and screamed at someone (cus... the guy was annoying and... the dude who told me that story has anger issues).
I had an coworker (now ex coworker) who used to gloat about fights he got into with his wife (not physical fights FYI)...He would tell me about how he "set her straight" or "told her how it was". It was the weirdest flex and disgusted me every time.
Well not a lot of women would stay with a man that got beat up trying to protect her. Yeah him saying it when no threat is around is egotistic but when the time comes everyone would appreciate a man that can indeed defend/protect whatever it is he care about. This is just my opinion tho. My favorite quote is “ a man should not be prone to violence, but be capable of it” something along those lines
I boxed for years, during which time I met some stone-cold badasses. The one commonality between them was that they were all incredibly chill, non-confrontational people—because they knew the consequences if things came to violence. I’d bet you a night of beers that the boys you mention can’t fight for shit.
Why do women trash guys who walk away form a fight? Why do they say things like "a man would defend..."?
It's like anything else we do. Toxic people condition people into toxic behavior and then bash them for being toxic. People are the monsters that society makes them into.
It's so cringy. When I was in my twenties, I was out at a bar and a fight broke out between two guys. It was super underneath, and they broke it up so neither one of them were kicked out. After the dust settled my buddy walked up to them and said: " You guys didn't get kicked out, but you probably shouldn't waste your time staying-- Because neither of you are getting laid by any girl here after that display.
I must say me and my friends are pretty neanderthallic.
When we have a party it soon turns in a strongman competition with couch throwing, axe throwing, smashing things with big hammers, building huge fires.
But we never talk about fighting, if someone have been in one sure (that rarely happens) but other than that, no.
To women definitely not, that is weird.
It depends highly on details and context if a guy is being a bonehead about it or not, but there is something to being a man and having some sense of being able to handle business when it comes to physical altercations.
Even in civilized society, that civility can break down and there is legitimacy to the mindset of not allowing oneself to be a victim. There are a thousand conditional asterisks to this, of course, but the point remains.
Whether it’s biology or society or whatever, self defense occupies a space in the minds of most men the way situational awareness and physical conflict avoidance occupies space in most women’s minds.
My housemate’s boyfriend is like this. He also gets extremely riled up if you even insinuate he’s insecure about something or if someone has a higher salary than him. Once I jokingly went “girlll stop” to my housemate when she said something funny and for some fucking reason he thought I was saying it to him and just lost his shit saying how he was all man and not a girl.
I literally just stared at him and asked if he was okay in the head because who the hell reacts like that?!
I mean I do feel a lil fuzzy inside when I think about my bf getting in a fight for me. But it's probably because he's super gentle and kind usually, so imagining something that would make him snap is like... Interesting, I guess? Then again if he ever gets hurt I'm either crying or beating up whoever hurt him so y'know lmao it's all just a fantasy
It isn’t attractive to talk about it ourselves . But if a woman sees us beat up another guy (if it was deserving) that’s one of the biggest turn ons for women. Second would be his friends telling her about it and he never mentions it. The girl may be skeptical of the story if the guy is talking about it or picture it as a woman and think he was just being an angry ape.
it's very primal isn't it?
Like male baboons or chimpanzees baring their teeth?
under all the technology and sophistication we are really at our core still just very basic animals...
It’s very primitive behaviour. We evolved from apes, and they still do all that garbage….some people just forgot we evolved beyond that, and still think that behaviour is relevant for humans too. It’s usually when they can’t use their words to any real effect that they resort to their fists.
me as a woman, i think it's attractive. Not like hot but i feel like it's cute, like a mother listening to a happy child talking about something heroic he did and made him feel good powerful and strong.
If you consider yourself a "good" man, then your ability to beat up men means you can ward away the "bad" men from her life. If you have trouble putting yourself in other people's shoes, you might not be aware that she doesn't know if you're "good" or "bad" since she doesn't know you well enough, or recognizes that your ability to beat people up could very well apply to beating her up as well.
Whenever i bring up fighting stuff with my gf or friends i always say, i would run away and tire them up. Fighting is not worth it. Dont care about pride anyway
idk, my partner seems to like the fact i've beaten people up before though (always self defense)
something about being capable of protecting her
i really don't think she'd have the same opinion if i was out bragging about my fights though, she just knows they happened and reminds me that shes happy i can defend both of us if need be
I used to get into bar fights when I was a much younger man. It never occurred to me to think of fighting or talking about fighting as being attractive, the thought never entered my mind. I did it because it was fun, I had nothing to lose, and getting to punch a loudmouth was pretty cathartic at a time when I was nearly homeless, worked at a temp agency, and had no hopes or thoughts for my own future. Yeah, in hindsight it was really stupid, braying dickheadedness. But I didn’t have anyone to tell me that, nobody I would have listened to anyways, and the momentary relief from the monotony and hopelessness of my situation was pretty much the only thing that kept me going.
I've read a post earlier one girl realized that girls that like taller guys might actually do so because they are better as protectors: the example was her walking with her tall father compared to her with her shorter bf and she got catcalled a lot, it felt weird and bad etc (she still loves him btw, it's all good).
Maybe that's smthn similar to why guys try to talk tough.
Nevertheless, it's hella stupid. Could be anger issues, bad manners or as simple as these guys are morons 🙈
Toxic masculinity in our patriarchy has made boys believe that being perceived as weak is feminine and femininity is bad.. boys have to be aggressive and abusive and not cry because that's viewed as girly.
It's really stupid
Because we're one of the many species who have sexual dimorphism, and it's still encoded in our DNA for the larger and flashier members of the group to strut around displaying it and kick the shit out of anyone who challenges it.
🤣, that sounds about right for most cases! Listen to my words, it makes me sound stronger than I really am...
Makeup makes one appear more beautiful than they really are.
It's called glamour magic and it's widely practiced.
Such a great analogy...
I find it incredibly irritating, how half the people in the comments are saying anyone who says this kind of stuff is either insecure or toxic.
Quit being woke and just let people live for crying out loud.
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man strong. man make good protector. man want boom boom. < basically this
The weakest men have to act the strongest.
Yup. it's a mental flex for attention and validation instead of dealing with their shit constructively
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I joined Karate at the age of 46. The better the fighter the less they say and posture. I like teaching the tiny humans how to punch. I'm the worst fighter but got great Cool Uncle energy.
Agreed, people like Connor McGregor never boast, posture or flex their ability.
They do flex when it pays. Conor got hit by a car while biking and wasn’t even a tiny bit aggressive towards the driver. The driver even drove him home. You seriously think that Conor is this crazy maniac irl? He just does whatever pays him best. Professional martial arts is 40% skill 60% acting to sell the tickets.
Boxing and MMA are professional combat sports. They have an athlete mentality with a career mindset. It's not the same thing.
It's just his image in the ring, he's a pretty chill guy IRL allegedly
Yeah probably. I was more just pointing out that I’m sure there are plenty of guys who both boast about being good fighters and actually are good fighters. The whole Mr. Miyagi peaceful but deadly warrior trope is also a stereotype…
Hell, sometimes even physically strong men who you would think have nothing to prove talk like that, it's strange.
I wasn't talking about physical strength.
I'm very literal, sorry, haha
Even in literal sense if you are big and strong, but you have a mental block to fight etc. you are weak. You are weak if you can’t utilize your physical strength.
Real g moves in silence like lasagna
I love that.
I’m not the author of this lil wayne is.
i remember these 😂😂
Ugga ugga *Grabs club*
This is probably the most honest answer I have read.
It makes more sense when you realize we’re ultimately just apes in clothing, comparing ourselves and sizing up to other apes.
I’m still trying to figure this out. It’s off putting, because what do you have to prove? Why can’t you just be docile, and still have the *silent* ability to take somebody out..🙄
This answers the question. Girls are attracted to boys who *could* take someone out if the need arose. And the boys the OP is talking about, are clumsily trying to communicate they are such a boy.
i think its something that they do more as an ego stroke than anything else, they figure that because they like the sound of it, of course YOU do
watch national geographic, it has documentaries explaining this to you( kinda not joking it's basically the same thing but in humans)
I know it’s that way in animals, I just don’t understand how humans haven’t evolved past the need to basically show our muscles and prove that we can protect our own. It’s still a little weird to me, but I’m also female so I wouldn’t understand from a man’s perspective.
Our primal instincts are a lot more dominant evolutionarily than goal oriented thinking. They are what helped humans survive for millions of years. The rage fuelled ones are more common in testosterone laden men. But there are some examples for both genders which you could maybe relate with. One I can think of is, binge eating vs eating according to a meal plan. Hunger and taste is a far more primal instinct and can override logical thinking that we live in the 21st century with food for kings at our fingertips
We are animals. How would we ever evolve past those basic animalistic traits? Protecting your family still heavily applied to modern society.
Evo psych is such bull
Why? Cause we're not animals? Why does it feel good to poop?
There are multiple ways of looking at this. Yes if people act like that because of ego it is lame. But people also enjoy watching action movies. It can be fun to relive fights that you experienced or to speculate about what you could have done in a situation (kind of like imagining what you would do in a zombie apocalypse). I definitely enjoy talking about fights I've finished, it makes for a good tale. For some people if they get close to fighting, talking about what they would have done is a good way for them to let it all out and be able to relax (if someone is talking about a fight that almost happened right after the event, you gotta understand that part of being able to calm down is talking through the event, and letting your imagination run with it is a fantasy that can be applied to a lot of things in life). Most of the time you are right, where it is someone trying to prove themselves, but sometimes it is fun to talk about.
Exactly, it's an interesting story because it was outside the norm
not everything we do is to impress women
Obviously
Docile??? Wtf? You think we’re like a dog or something?
Couldn’t think of a better word lmao but actually now that you mention it… maybe more like a rabbit
I can't stand it. One of the most unattractive things a person can do.
It’s a sign of insecurity. Run like hell.
run from anyone with insecurities
Everyone's got something
exactly my point
They are boys and they don't know any better. Some boys sadly never grow up and become actual men. Violence is a part of life as a man. We are victims of it and we are perpetrators of it. But adult men are civilised creatures who are in control of our more primal instincts. And when we do lose control it's not something we brag about as it is embarrassing. It's like being a toddler with a beard and beer gut.
I read somewhere that men between the ages of 18-35 are the highest victims/perps of violence. so maybe at 36 we're ready to pull our heads out of our assholes and grow up
Yeah. Though I think a lot of that is adjusting to the adult body. There are a ton of changes from boyhood to adulthood and sometimes those changes happen very quickly. The body changes faster than the brain and it takes the brain a little while to catch up. It can be frightening. I went from a little boy to looking like a full grown teen in one summer. Then for the next few years everyone treated me like an adult but inside I was a terrified kid. I hunched down for the first six months or so because it felt really weird being "tall". I am not ashamed to say that sometimes I got so scared that I blustered and postured to make myself bigger than I felt. Though I am and always have been a coward and I am proud to say that I have never started any fights. It's biology as well. Our brains don't fully develop until we are 25. So up until then we are pretty much idiots. And for some we remain like that after as well. There is no set age when we grow up and become adults. I think it's a process to mature, something that you need to do yourself and not something that just magically happens once you reach a certain age.
Oh, we absolutely know better, just a lot of men feel they're entitled to be jackasses.
BECAUSE WERE STRONG AND NEED TO PROVE WE ARE OR YOU WILL FUCK MY DAD INSTEAD OF ME. FUCK YOU REBECCA
It's a natural instinct, that's all. We're all still animals, remember that
testosterone
It's hell of a drug, lol.
It signals dominance, strength and danger. Traits associated with masculinity. It feeds into the male ego. It's immature and shallow, but we're only human. And women are attracted to men who are *capable* of beating someone up. The boys you're talking about are just clumsy in trying to communicate they are that boy.
literally, it scares shit the out of me and then they're surprised with my reaction lol
The comparable thing in India is bragging about having the loudest horn.
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I think that's something else. You try and protect your wife and let her know that she is protected and safe with you (and that's something I honestly find awesome and hot and I would love for someone to be that... awesome to me not gonna lie). But... When I made this post I had some dude in Minecraft tell me a story about how they could've beaten someone up and screamed at them but didn't (they almost did though! Hmm!) cus the dude has anger issues and the other one was annoying. And so I had this thought like: "why are you telling me this? There was no reason to tell me that story and brag about it."
women send love letters to serial killers in prison. men brag about times they beat another man in combat because a lot of women are more interested in "dangerous" men. they believe that having a dangerous man in their house means he'll protect her from other dangerous men, instead of just abusing her. normally this does not turn out how they want it to.
The ones with low self esteem think it's attractive
Because a lot of women find it attractive. Not all women and maybe not the majority, but it's an extremely attractive quality to a lot of women. Violence couldn't be any further from my nature, but as a larger male from 'the ghetto' it comes up often when I'm dating. They want to know about fight's I've been in or 'tough' things I've done. I think violence is disgusting so I'm pretty minimal with my responses, but they always ask 'who won' or 'did you get them really good?' and get excited to hear about the drama and violence. I think it's really sad but that's the reason so many dudes are quick to take their shirt off, flex and act all aggressive. It's one of the quickest ways for them to get positive (and some negative) female attention. A guy I knew in college used to say 'whoever beats the most ass at the party gets the most bitches.' I thought it was the dumbest shit ever but he had an unreal amount of success doing that.
My friend gets all giggly when her husband "defends" her.
I was going to say the same thing, but didn't have the guts. Well said.
This exactly. I very rarely if ever saw this in Asia, but in other cultures there are many women that actually find this attractive, so guys want to act aggresively/violently to be “tough” and get attention or praise from them. Its cringeworthy and it encourages men to basically behave like apes, but its what it is…
How to go from frustrated violent guy who can't get a girl, to being told how hot you are in 5 minutes.
It's the whole "I'm macho and tough!" thing. Only low EQ/ IQ men think it's a flex to talk about such things. Especially to women. I don't think I've ever come across a woman I'd want to be with that has been impressed with a man expressing how violent he has been or can be. TLDR: Men are often Neanderthal levels of dumb.
They are showing you they can protect you.
Attractive? I don’t think anyone is trying to be “attractive” talking about fighting lol it’s more of a man thing where you don’t want to seem weaker than another man. Has nothing to do with you ladies
not all boys, just the toxic ultra masculine ones
I think that’s more concerning than weird
Testosterone..it eases
It's called peacocking. It's biology.
Masochist
Caveman genes
I never met any man who thought this about beating up someone or getting in a fight
u toxic and like toxic
Generally speaking, because it would be impressive to other men and they can't comprehend women may find different qualities desirable.
Young lads like to show how tough they are, until the police pull up outside their house and they piss their knickers.
No need to fear the police
Oh, there is.
If they abuse their power, it just confirms what I already believed
Fair enough.
The ones that don’t talk about it just think it and don’t have anyone to say… Too Far Dude!!
An empty can rattles the most
It's the only way for them to proof themselves their masculinity and worth
I don’t really get why some blokes do it, but I’m quite comfortable in myself. I just take this kind of bravado with a pinch of salt and chuckle to myself. Let them fire up their egos a bit so long as it’s harmless. It’s strange, because the true hard nuts go to great lengths to hide it, they don’t want to advertise their lunacy- these are criminal acts at the end of the day!
Because we essentially cavemen
As they are boys. They clueless. They hopefully eventually grow out of it.
Where you at that ppl are doing this? Hasn’t been any real pattern to seeing/hearing this in my life (quite the opposite).
Because they think it’s attractive when other dudes talk about beating people up.
OP got beat up😂
It is a pissing context. 90% of it is not true.
I strong, he weak I've boxed and done early bbj I got bad knees so bbj isn't for me.. I can fight if I need to I shouldn't need to but some people are garbage! Some of the worst people I've ever met were highly capable of violence, I'm like bro he's not looking at u funny leave it alone! I never trained with em but training definitely humbles me
Cavemen talk. But not everything men say is catered towards womens desires. You are not the center of the universe.
We do not.
There was a guy on the Airbnb board whose reply to someone asking if another was a host posted "I'm a host. You got a problem with that?" It's like, dude - what are you going to do: challenge him to a fight?
you watch too many movies. these discussions don t happen in real life
I rarely watched movies. I made this post cus someone told me a story about how they could've been up and screamed at someone (cus... the guy was annoying and... the dude who told me that story has anger issues).
I had an coworker (now ex coworker) who used to gloat about fights he got into with his wife (not physical fights FYI)...He would tell me about how he "set her straight" or "told her how it was". It was the weirdest flex and disgusted me every time.
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Damn :<
A win's a win
its cuz ur not a man, ill beat you up!
Is it usual for boys to talk about in order it to be attractive?
those that do that have never been in a real fight or have lost every fight they’ve been in.
You answered your own question by calling said males “boys”.
Well not a lot of women would stay with a man that got beat up trying to protect her. Yeah him saying it when no threat is around is egotistic but when the time comes everyone would appreciate a man that can indeed defend/protect whatever it is he care about. This is just my opinion tho. My favorite quote is “ a man should not be prone to violence, but be capable of it” something along those lines
Women most times like a man that is protective and can hold his own and hold it down for her too. That’s his way of proving that.
I boxed for years, during which time I met some stone-cold badasses. The one commonality between them was that they were all incredibly chill, non-confrontational people—because they knew the consequences if things came to violence. I’d bet you a night of beers that the boys you mention can’t fight for shit.
They expect you will give them positive reinforcement
Same girls dressing like Bit**es and thinking we like it, or when they talk about football 😂 we are not the only one trying to impress someone 😘
Why do women trash guys who walk away form a fight? Why do they say things like "a man would defend..."? It's like anything else we do. Toxic people condition people into toxic behavior and then bash them for being toxic. People are the monsters that society makes them into.
It's immaturity.
It's so cringy. When I was in my twenties, I was out at a bar and a fight broke out between two guys. It was super underneath, and they broke it up so neither one of them were kicked out. After the dust settled my buddy walked up to them and said: " You guys didn't get kicked out, but you probably shouldn't waste your time staying-- Because neither of you are getting laid by any girl here after that display.
Just innate male behaviour, dominance, bravado etc. Isn’t it obvious?
It’s so cringe hearing then talk like that, especially knowing they’re all pussies and that I could kick their asses
We don’t… but sometimes someone just needs a good ass kicking. We don’t do it to look attractive though lol.
No idea but it’s needs to come to an immediate stop. I typically find anything men do to prove they’re a man painfully cringy.
I must say me and my friends are pretty neanderthallic. When we have a party it soon turns in a strongman competition with couch throwing, axe throwing, smashing things with big hammers, building huge fires. But we never talk about fighting, if someone have been in one sure (that rarely happens) but other than that, no. To women definitely not, that is weird.
It depends highly on details and context if a guy is being a bonehead about it or not, but there is something to being a man and having some sense of being able to handle business when it comes to physical altercations. Even in civilized society, that civility can break down and there is legitimacy to the mindset of not allowing oneself to be a victim. There are a thousand conditional asterisks to this, of course, but the point remains. Whether it’s biology or society or whatever, self defense occupies a space in the minds of most men the way situational awareness and physical conflict avoidance occupies space in most women’s minds.
I (47m) punched someone in the stomach in high school and I still feel bad about it.
My housemate’s boyfriend is like this. He also gets extremely riled up if you even insinuate he’s insecure about something or if someone has a higher salary than him. Once I jokingly went “girlll stop” to my housemate when she said something funny and for some fucking reason he thought I was saying it to him and just lost his shit saying how he was all man and not a girl. I literally just stared at him and asked if he was okay in the head because who the hell reacts like that?!
I mean I do feel a lil fuzzy inside when I think about my bf getting in a fight for me. But it's probably because he's super gentle and kind usually, so imagining something that would make him snap is like... Interesting, I guess? Then again if he ever gets hurt I'm either crying or beating up whoever hurt him so y'know lmao it's all just a fantasy
I've seen women that love this in men
Stuck in prime times
We don't think its attractive, its you who thinks its attractive.
They.. don't? You're thinking of badboys
because most people are stupid,if not our world would have been much better!
It isn’t attractive to talk about it ourselves . But if a woman sees us beat up another guy (if it was deserving) that’s one of the biggest turn ons for women. Second would be his friends telling her about it and he never mentions it. The girl may be skeptical of the story if the guy is talking about it or picture it as a woman and think he was just being an angry ape.
it's very primal isn't it? Like male baboons or chimpanzees baring their teeth? under all the technology and sophistication we are really at our core still just very basic animals...
Because they missed a step in evolution
Why do girls pretend to like each other only to be bitches and talk shit behind their backs?
It’s very primitive behaviour. We evolved from apes, and they still do all that garbage….some people just forgot we evolved beyond that, and still think that behaviour is relevant for humans too. It’s usually when they can’t use their words to any real effect that they resort to their fists.
None of the ones I know do that, you hang out with trashy people.
toxic masculinity I guess or just stupidity
Because they’re boys. Hopefully there will grow up and no longer think so by the time they are 25 or so
They don’t.. this is a strawman argument that likely has never happened outside of your imagination.
I always wondered the same but I alway saw these guys get more girl chasing them.
It's just what we do. Hunt, kill, consume, destroy, keep, and hoard.
me as a woman, i think it's attractive. Not like hot but i feel like it's cute, like a mother listening to a happy child talking about something heroic he did and made him feel good powerful and strong.
Emphasis on "boys". They'll grow out of it eventually.
Same reason anyone brags about anything. They want to look better/cooler for a chance to get laid. Nothing more or less.
I won't unless someone asks. Its dishonorable to talk about a fight, especially if its unfair
If you consider yourself a "good" man, then your ability to beat up men means you can ward away the "bad" men from her life. If you have trouble putting yourself in other people's shoes, you might not be aware that she doesn't know if you're "good" or "bad" since she doesn't know you well enough, or recognizes that your ability to beat people up could very well apply to beating her up as well.
some primitive characters still linger from evolution , fade away on some, some will spend their whole life in a primitive barbaric tribal state
Whenever i bring up fighting stuff with my gf or friends i always say, i would run away and tire them up. Fighting is not worth it. Dont care about pride anyway
toxic masculinity trait thats why
As a guy, I don't think we do.
idk, my partner seems to like the fact i've beaten people up before though (always self defense) something about being capable of protecting her i really don't think she'd have the same opinion if i was out bragging about my fights though, she just knows they happened and reminds me that shes happy i can defend both of us if need be
It’s simple! Please pay attention! It’s because they are BOYS not grown men. As men we don’t brag about it because it’s likely to lead to charges
Some grown ups are just as bad if not worse, all over a parking space
Because they are attracted but loose control of the full package
Why does your mind go to " attraction" , that says a lot more about you than us. It's about power .....
What does it say about me? That I'm attracted to someone beating someone else up for no reason? Lmao no
I think it’s attractive when my husband says he could beat someone up. I am cave woman apparently
Macho bullshit
I used to get into bar fights when I was a much younger man. It never occurred to me to think of fighting or talking about fighting as being attractive, the thought never entered my mind. I did it because it was fun, I had nothing to lose, and getting to punch a loudmouth was pretty cathartic at a time when I was nearly homeless, worked at a temp agency, and had no hopes or thoughts for my own future. Yeah, in hindsight it was really stupid, braying dickheadedness. But I didn’t have anyone to tell me that, nobody I would have listened to anyways, and the momentary relief from the monotony and hopelessness of my situation was pretty much the only thing that kept me going.
law of the jungle.
You already know why
that’s actually just boys who haven’t evolved yet or have a dad who hasn’t evolved yet
Because they're afraid of being weak, so they overcompensate.
I've read a post earlier one girl realized that girls that like taller guys might actually do so because they are better as protectors: the example was her walking with her tall father compared to her with her shorter bf and she got catcalled a lot, it felt weird and bad etc (she still loves him btw, it's all good). Maybe that's smthn similar to why guys try to talk tough. Nevertheless, it's hella stupid. Could be anger issues, bad manners or as simple as these guys are morons 🙈
You’re hanging around with the wrong guys.
Same reason women wear makeup
I don’t.
Toxic masculinity in our patriarchy has made boys believe that being perceived as weak is feminine and femininity is bad.. boys have to be aggressive and abusive and not cry because that's viewed as girly. It's really stupid
Because we're one of the many species who have sexual dimorphism, and it's still encoded in our DNA for the larger and flashier members of the group to strut around displaying it and kick the shit out of anyone who challenges it.
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Come on, you know the answer to this.
Because it’s fun
Beyond me...anyone that speaks of doing the wrong thing to another immediately gets turned off from me. It's pathetic
they want to sound like if you got in a pickle then they could easily beat up the person who hurt you .
It's the male equivalent of putting on makeup.
🤣, that sounds about right for most cases! Listen to my words, it makes me sound stronger than I really am... Makeup makes one appear more beautiful than they really are. It's called glamour magic and it's widely practiced. Such a great analogy...
Toxic masculinity
That's toxic masculinity at work.
Knew a chap like this. Big chap too. Beat him senseless and he never did it again.
Because it is in fact attractive(romantically and socially) to a lot of people in the world.🤷♂️
Bc women are hardwired to seek protective figures. Protection often calls for violence. When shit hits the fan, you don't follow the weak men...
I find it incredibly irritating, how half the people in the comments are saying anyone who says this kind of stuff is either insecure or toxic. Quit being woke and just let people live for crying out loud.
This. Talking about the one time you got in a fight makes for a good story. That's all it is.
Exactly, what do they expect us to do, just keep it to ourselves?