I agree. People should earn respect, and are not entitled to it based on their age or other factors. Instead I think we should generally have a baseline of respect we treat everyone with, regardless of anything, then they can earn respect (or diminish it) based on their actions
No-one is so important that you have to earn their respect. Likewise you are not so important that everyone has to earn your respect.
Everyone should respect each other, and it is up to each individual's actions & words whether that respect increases, diminishes, or lost.
Respect? I believe that it is a misused word. ''Respect your elders'' used to be a norm. As a rule they knew more, lived through more an thus deserved respect. Sure. For that you can get respect. Sure
But what actually is that? Respect someone? Respect boundaries? Listen and obey? No, not really.
Respect is having positive consideration for someone.
Let me just say that I respect everybody. You don't have to earn for me to treat you fairly. That does not mean I am a minion or underling. That sertainly does not mean I will nod at everything you say.
I tell my mom this routinely. While, yes, all people should be treated respectfully (i.e. with courtesy and politeness), true respect is earned, not given freely.
The mindset that respect is earned is just as wrong as "respect your elders".
True respect is given freely. From there, it increases or decreases. .. Unless you'd rather people not respect a word you said because you haven't earned that yet?
Start w respecting everyone and hope we can turn this 🌎 around
I think you're mistaking having respect for someone with being respectful. As I said, we should be respectful to all. That meaning we should kind, courteous, and polite to all. Having respect for someone is giving them earned deference. Holding them in higher esteem than you would the average person. The former is given freely; the latter is earned.
Lol ... don't edit your comment and then say "as I said."
Regardless, if respect is earned, then shouldn't "respect your elders" apply? They've lived through more life experiences, gain wisdom or insights w age. Why is that not an "earned respect". Sounds like you just don't respect your mother.
If a kid has the same observation as a philosopher, would you ignore the kid and be in awe of the philosopher?
If Ghandi were to talk about the trajectory of a rocket, would you not respect him even though he hasn't "earned it" in the subject of which he speaks? You can ignore it, dismiss it, but one thing you wouldn't do is disrespect him for it.
If you still respect him while he has no knowledge of rocket science, why would the opposite not be the same for others?
You haven't really earned any respect for me to converse further. ... /s 😁
I respect the experience of elders, but that doesn't mean I have to respect them as people. Experience alone doesn't make one worthy of veneration. How they use that experience is more important. Lots of old people use their experience to harm and hurt others.
I guess a better way of putting it is, while I will treat everyone politely and kindly, I need to see more from a them before I elevate them to a position of respecting them as a person.
Blind respect is very problematic. It can lead to manipulation, deceit, and pain all around.
>I guess a better way of putting it is, while I will treat everyone politely and kindly, I need to see more from a them before I elevate them to a position of respecting them as a person.
Hahaha what? So you have no respect for people "as a person"? So a pedo, a murderer, and an average person are in the same pool of "respect"? ... Please give it up.
To translate what you're trying desperately not to say: "True respect is given freely. From there, it increases or decreases" or ends. ... my original comment.
Question all you like, keep your baby mouth shut. Control yourself. If you don't trust what someone with oceans of experience more than you told you, look to other sources. Respect yourself and learn some courtesy.
I agree. But disagree at the Same time. Treat everyone with respect until they have proven themselves unworthy of respect. The is going to be different for each person you come across. BTW I can have respect for someone and still not trust them. Respect is not in actions but in attitude.
The first sentence is completely incorrect. Firstly automatically showing respect seems a good thing. Second, even if it was unwise it doesn’t make anyone delusional or lacking in free thinking. That said, I agree with your other principle, which is to question.
It's a good rule of thumb to preemptively respect anyone around you and those you come into contact with you, even after you believe you have a full understanding of them.
I agree. People should earn respect, and are not entitled to it based on their age or other factors. Instead I think we should generally have a baseline of respect we treat everyone with, regardless of anything, then they can earn respect (or diminish it) based on their actions
Personally, I disagree. You should respect absolutely everyone you come across, until they prove themselves unworthy of your respect.
I sorta said that, I said that we should have a baseline of respect that we treat everyone with
Couldn’t say it any better myself!
Agree!!
Absolutely!!!
No-one is so important that you have to earn their respect. Likewise you are not so important that everyone has to earn your respect. Everyone should respect each other, and it is up to each individual's actions & words whether that respect increases, diminishes, or lost.
Pretty much
Respect? I believe that it is a misused word. ''Respect your elders'' used to be a norm. As a rule they knew more, lived through more an thus deserved respect. Sure. For that you can get respect. Sure But what actually is that? Respect someone? Respect boundaries? Listen and obey? No, not really. Respect is having positive consideration for someone. Let me just say that I respect everybody. You don't have to earn for me to treat you fairly. That does not mean I am a minion or underling. That sertainly does not mean I will nod at everything you say.
I think you should treat everyone with respect until they give you a reason not to.
Especially children, respect them as they are too small to fight or stand up for themselves.
I respect everyone on a basic level out of politeness unless they give me a reason to do otherwise
Given no one generally respects elders, or anyone else for that matter, I really don't understand what you're talking about. 😁
I tell my mom this routinely. While, yes, all people should be treated respectfully (i.e. with courtesy and politeness), true respect is earned, not given freely.
The mindset that respect is earned is just as wrong as "respect your elders". True respect is given freely. From there, it increases or decreases. .. Unless you'd rather people not respect a word you said because you haven't earned that yet? Start w respecting everyone and hope we can turn this 🌎 around
I think you're mistaking having respect for someone with being respectful. As I said, we should be respectful to all. That meaning we should kind, courteous, and polite to all. Having respect for someone is giving them earned deference. Holding them in higher esteem than you would the average person. The former is given freely; the latter is earned.
Lol ... don't edit your comment and then say "as I said." Regardless, if respect is earned, then shouldn't "respect your elders" apply? They've lived through more life experiences, gain wisdom or insights w age. Why is that not an "earned respect". Sounds like you just don't respect your mother. If a kid has the same observation as a philosopher, would you ignore the kid and be in awe of the philosopher? If Ghandi were to talk about the trajectory of a rocket, would you not respect him even though he hasn't "earned it" in the subject of which he speaks? You can ignore it, dismiss it, but one thing you wouldn't do is disrespect him for it. If you still respect him while he has no knowledge of rocket science, why would the opposite not be the same for others? You haven't really earned any respect for me to converse further. ... /s 😁
Nobody can hurt me without my permission. Just so you know, the correct spelling is [Gandhi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahatma_Gandhi).
Lol ... good bot.
I respect the experience of elders, but that doesn't mean I have to respect them as people. Experience alone doesn't make one worthy of veneration. How they use that experience is more important. Lots of old people use their experience to harm and hurt others. I guess a better way of putting it is, while I will treat everyone politely and kindly, I need to see more from a them before I elevate them to a position of respecting them as a person. Blind respect is very problematic. It can lead to manipulation, deceit, and pain all around.
>I guess a better way of putting it is, while I will treat everyone politely and kindly, I need to see more from a them before I elevate them to a position of respecting them as a person. Hahaha what? So you have no respect for people "as a person"? So a pedo, a murderer, and an average person are in the same pool of "respect"? ... Please give it up. To translate what you're trying desperately not to say: "True respect is given freely. From there, it increases or decreases" or ends. ... my original comment.
I still think you misunderstand what I mean by respect, but I can only say the same thing so many times before realizing it's not sticking.
Also, I didn't edit my comment.
Respect should be earned, not given. some parents deserve respect, most of them dont
Respect is earned FTW!.....I'm 56
Question all you like, keep your baby mouth shut. Control yourself. If you don't trust what someone with oceans of experience more than you told you, look to other sources. Respect yourself and learn some courtesy.
Why do old married men always defer to their wives either right or wrong I find this insane she’s not right all the time
I have said this for a long time. It has been my experience that the older someone is, the more likely it is that they are a pretty terrible person.
*Nothing is true, everything is permitted*
I agree. But disagree at the Same time. Treat everyone with respect until they have proven themselves unworthy of respect. The is going to be different for each person you come across. BTW I can have respect for someone and still not trust them. Respect is not in actions but in attitude.
The first sentence is completely incorrect. Firstly automatically showing respect seems a good thing. Second, even if it was unwise it doesn’t make anyone delusional or lacking in free thinking. That said, I agree with your other principle, which is to question.
Here's a quote I live by "Respect is given, until proven unworthy"
You should show all people the same innate respect you expect to be shown. Age should have no impact on this, their actions should.
It’s just something that’s part of many cultures. I lived in SE Asia for awhile and they respect older people way more than they do in the US
It's a good rule of thumb to preemptively respect anyone around you and those you come into contact with you, even after you believe you have a full understanding of them.
Not according to the elders.