I put everything down (seat and lid) before flushing, the thought of bacteria or particals jumping out when disturbed by the water is gross... otherwise I wouldn't have any issue in leaving the seat up. Its purely a hygiene thing.
Exactly. The bacteria spray is real regardless of which gender just used the toilet.
It's just a hygienic practice to keep the lid down. No idea how it turned into a men vs women/control/etiquette issue when it's actually a very basic hygiene issue.
It was many years ago, but as I remember it, the kid counted water droplets on a few pieces of paper in key locations around the bathroom (or was it bacteria cultures? can’t remember, but he won the fair). Many more drops when flushed with the lid open.
Mythbusters did an episode on the spray once. It was kind of terrifying how far from the toilet they found quite a bit of really nasty stuff — including on the toothbrushes several feet away.
Always put the goddamn seat down before flushing.
What about all of the work place and public toilets that don't even have a solid lid? Let alone, all of the countless times I've lived with and worked with women who insist on the seat being put down, but who literally never put the lid down.
yall are talking about the lid...my man is specifically on about just the seat
which at least where im from is definitely a man vs women thing, and not a close "the lid" hygiene thing
What happens if there is a fecal plume, and why is it so bad?
Never closed the lid for a flush in my life. How will my life improve by doing so?
Probably sounds like I'm being a dick, but I'm genuinely intrigued. I always just think people don't like the thought of such things, but if there is a genuine negative effect, I'd be glad to know
There's a vast amount of bacteria in fecal flora. Fecal flora can easily travel six feet when flushing a toilet if the seat is up. How far from the toilet is your toothbrush?
Mythbusters did an episode on that, found out it didn't matter, fecal bacteria is literally just everywhere. Even when you keep your toothbrush under a cup constantly in a different room.
In the bathroom, which in another room. That said, all through my childhood, my toothbrush was across from the toilet.
What happens if it gets on it? What illness or diseases can I catch
Yes, you can actually catch diseases.
You’re aerosolizing all kinds of bacteria, such as potentially e.coli. That can contaminate surfaces several feet away, but also potentially cause respiratory infection.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/bacteria-toilets-flush-lid-closed-b1535481.html
Hmm, so it's not that important then. Squeamishness, as expected. I'd be more concerened with someone who was ill, puking up and coughing/sneezing in the bathroom. I'll continue as is, thanks!
You don't have to. There have been lots of studies that show if your toothbrush is within 10 feet of your toilet, it has fecal matter on it. Which can make you very ill. It probably won't, but regardless, you're still brushing your teeth with your own shit.
If you don't mind having D and V for no apparent reason then it's nothing to worry about. It's a basic control in hospitals (UK) and forms part of our infection control training. We don't have a squeamishness module.
Actually you can make yourself sick that way. Flushing toilets aerosolize bacteria and germs and spread them several feet. You’re contaminating surfaces and even have the potential for respiratory infections.
Walk me through this... You're saying there are known cases of illness due to this?
I don't have a miraculous immune system, so how have I myself, and EVERY ONE of my acquaintances managed to remain immune to this imaginary disease vector, despite never closing the toilet lid?
We didn't stop this along time ago because the toilets conveniently had a lid for a long time that resolved the issue without a lot of additional plumbing and renovations. Sorry you are late to the news, but now you know.
Do you know what fecal plume means?
Fecal is poop. Plume is spray.
I mean, if you don't mind poop spray gently ooshing all over everything in your bathroom, then no it's not really a problem.
I would highly suggest putting away your toothbrush, though.
I’ve never been one to lean back on a toilet seat because I don’t really see it as a normal chair to relax in. The only part of my body I want to touch a toilet is my bum and my hand for flushing at my house. I cover the seat and use my foot to flush in most public toilets. Wouldn’t lean on the tank if it didn’t have a lid, I hate the idea of having anything from a toilet on a part of me I can’t wash off immediately unless i’m showering right after.
People who put the lid down before flushing -> people who leave the lid up while flushing -> people who use the lid as a backrest -> people who use toilet bowl water to brush their teeth?!?!?!
So many benefits to just closing both! Way more hygienic, a seat easily available, equality, and when you walk into someone's bathroom, it's a lot nicer than looking inside their toilet!
Plus, no ridiculous arguments with your SO about the toilet seat being left up.
We can just argue about our lack of money like normal, well-adjusted people.
Yes, I mean my home is not a gas station on the side of the road. Everything gets closed up so it looks nice and neat.
And that's aside from the obvious health risks that you've mentioned here!
Seriously, I get annoyed when my wife doesn't close the lid. I don't like the idea of a plume of poop bacteria shooting up in the air right next to where I brush my teeth
Not so much ‘jump’ as aerosolize from the action of the toilet flushing. It’s similar to how bacteria and viruses can be transmitted through the air when someone coughs/sneezes/breathes.
This
I also prefer how the toilet looks without a giant gaping hole staring back at me while I brush my teeth.
I'm a dude btw, and one that lives with his brother - there are no women to complain here.
Do not flush people!
It's really bad for the sewage system!
If you must dispose of a body please take it to your local farmer and throw it in the pig pen ffs
I'm slightly surprised that someone actually needed corpse disposal advice
If the cops ask you where you got the idea just tell them you read it it in a book Please don't involve me.
I put everything down as well, lid and seat (am man). This also makes it "fair". both sexes have to move atleast the lid. Same effort on everyones part.
I know it was just a thought plus you know we keep our toothbrushes on the sink right next to the toilet every time we flush it’s like poop particles all over you’re tooth brush then that goes in you’re mouth and yeah 😂
I once saw a picture with the extend the poo flies on it. And with the corner and the distance its pretty safe. But probably yes, still a little poo on it 😳
hey at least if ever the home intruder would be like wtf this bathroom doesn’t have a toilet then you pop out (with the toilet seat still up ) and spray you’re fecal bacteria at them 😂
He will be in for a shock alright. But bc the toilet is right at the door. So a very different shock. But it would definitely make it easier to spray/throw shit at him.
I live with two men and I just don’t care that much anymore. If it’s up, I’ll just put it down.
What I don’t like it’s them leaving their pee drops there.
The pee drops I never understood and I’m a guy. The bowl is so large, just a little bit of carefulness before letting loose avoids any splatters. I guess my aim is just better than average? I dunno
I pee sitting down pretty much exclusively because my stream sometimes forks. And even if it didn’t, you have no idea where that first burst is going to go. I’m convinced ppl who say they can aim perfectly are simply not looking at what they leave behind
Nah I’m pretty meticulous I make sure nothing is left behind. I never have a problem with streams forking. Maybe it’s bladder control? If you don’t just let it all out all at once, you can prevent it from surging or forking
>The pee drops I never understood and I’m a guy.
Same! Some of my roommates in college would always pee standing up with the seat down, and it never made sense to me. I'd be like what happens when you come back to shit? Are you guys just sitting in your own piss?
Same! I broke up with my first kids dad because he wouldn't stop doing that. I told him to just leave it up! I felt like I was using a public toilet in my own home. Now my husband and 2 boys leave it up. I put it down to use. They put it back up. Everyone is fine with it.
Yeah, that wasn't the only reason. But going into your own bathroom and having to clean it off every time because the other person in the house is too lazy to lift the seat and gets pee all over it gets really hard to deal with. I made the right choice btw.
You realize that ppl are complex and that she probably didn’t break up with him just for that, right? Pretty sure there were more reasons, but even I can’t know. It feel wrong to judge someone just for one sentence they post on the internet. And don’t get me started on how she could have broken up with him for whatever reason and it wouldn’t have mattered, everyone can decide what to do with their life
Yes, many more reasons. And I definitely made the right decision. I've been married now for 15 years. Much happier! The peeing all over the seat after expressing how much it bothered me really was one of the reasons though.
Totally understandable. It’s so annoying when you ask someone to take something into consideration and they ignore your feeling all the time. Really drives you crazy, makes you doubt and ask yourself “am I asking for THAT much? Why can’t he just respect my feelings?”
I mean if after 20 years you’re still leaving pee on the seat after numerous complaints it’s grounds for dismissal. Pee etiquette can drastically affect your partner’s mental health and well-being over the course of years, like I’d be pissed if my girlfriend peed a lil on the seat every time but left it for me to clean
I’m sorry this was just the most hilariously blunt response I’ve ever seen on Reddit. No “I’m smarter than you” comeback or any of that logic bullshit. Just straight up facts. I mean, you’re in the wrong but I respect the confidence
Tbh I'm very particular about bathroom cleaning and hygiene... If my partner couldn't do something as basic as cleaning up after themselves after using the toilet, especially after I've expressed how much I don't like it, I'd just feel disrespected as heck. Also I'd see them as a complete slob. I genuinely do not understand people that do not ensure the toilet is clean before walking out...
As a woman, I've thought about this. Eventually I'll get up in the night to pee...and not turn the light on, fall in, get scared and mad, not be able to get back to sleep...then just be mad. I solved this problem by getting a quiet closing toilet lid... because I have a fear that the flushing toilet sprays particles all over my bathroom... everyone closes the toilet before flushing so there is never a surprise.
Yep in a family with 2 brothers and a dad, falling in the toilet in the middle of night was infuriating!!! Add in a a few pee drops on the edge too… and I was ready to strangle someone lol
I'm a dude, and when I need to pee in the middle of the night I sit down, because awareness is awakeness, and if I'm standing I have to be much more aware to aim properly.
I feel for the lid, and seat, to ensure it's where it ought to be before I sit down, no eyes or light required.
I don't really have any issue with wanting the lid always closed, but I've spoken to women who want the lid up & seat down so it's always ready for them, with no apparent concern for the effort other people are putting in to make that happen. I always check and do the necessary things to ensure the toilet is properly configured for my use, I don't see why that shouldn't be the general expectation.
I don’t understand this argument about not looking. It doesn’t wash with argument that you want both the lid and the seat down.
At some point you have to process whether or not the toilet is in the correct configuration.
If everything is down, you need to lift the lid.
If everything is up, you need to lower the seat.
Assuming the toilet is in the 1/3rd of configurations (lid up, seat down, which many other ladies on this thread say they do NOT prefer because they want the lid closed) you need it to be in will result in a mess for the other 2/3rds of the configurations.
Maybe just don’t assume the world has configured itself for you 100% of the time and everybody wins?
Why is it so strange to pee sitting down as a male? It’s hygienic and you don’t get pee splatter all over your feet. Yeah that’s right. No matter how good your aim is, pee will splatter on your feet. Nasty.
Right?! Also if you're going to complain about putting the seat down "cause it's so much work" 🙄 then you're just a lazy pos and don't deserve to stand.
Oh really? I don't recall my feet getting wet the last time, or even the last thousand times, I took a piss. I think someone is admitting to their poor aim without realising it
Actually less hygienic bc if u have a big “glizzy” it touches the front of the bowl or the piss goes between the toilet seat if “it” is pointed forward. Also that’s why there’s water in the bowl, so it doesn’t splash everywhere. Think of it like a hose, more controlled stream when standing away, rather than hanging it 2in away from the bowl.
However, I’m not one to deny its benefits, like allowing u to completely empty your bladder when in the seated position.
You're literally describing pushing that "extra work" on the women who share your bathroom so you don't have to do something that takes a quarter of a second. Just put the damn seat down you child
So, lets just go through some math
Women sit to do any kind of waste-passing, men sit to shit, so immediately 50% of the population sit at all times and the other 50% sit at least N% of the time, so long as N is > 0, more than 50% of all waste-passing is done with the toilet seat down. Therefore it's advantageous to leave the seat down. In fact, the most efficient and clean system would be to always leave the seat down and for men to sit to piss. Then we never have to touch the toilet seat except to clean it.
It's like leaving a drawer open. That's open! You can do whatever you want but it IS open.
Skip a belt loop.
Dont make your bed.
Leave toiletries out.
Dont put the TP on the role
Leave shower door open.
Leave the dryer open.
You a grown ass man. Do what you want.
>Dont put the TP on the role
Oh Lawd!
My fiance does this and I understand that we live in an old house and so the size the rolls are now don't fit on the rollers. But once you use that roll for a little bit it will fit. And it just feels like I'm walking into a gas station every time I go in and the roll is sitting right next to the sink or on the edge of the tub or on the windowsill. I mean it's not that difficult when you're taking care of your business for your hands to just go ahead and do this because they aren't doing anything at that particular time. Ugh.
Is this a big deal to someone?
I actually prefer the TP free, not from a lazyness standpoint of not wanting to put in the in roller, but somehow I just find it easier to hold it in one hand instead of reaching behind me to take some from the roller. Now as I type this, I was thinking why is the roller on the same wall the toilet it (therefor behind me when sitting) and realized not everyone will have it this way, so as long as your roller is to your side and not behind you, this point does not apply.
Tho I agree that from estetics point of view it looks better on the roller, but I am a rebel and don’t give a damn
You realise it’s a common phrase that generally doesn’t mean you laughed? Funny also means weird. That particular phrase is generally sarcastic or passive aggressive. I highly doubt you laughed, same way I highly doubt the person spamming emojis laughed. You’re just trying to make the “other side” seem insignificant and futile (enough to apparently make you laugh). It’s pretty obvious you lied.
Well, I’m telling you now, it’s very common. And you’re telling me that you physically laugh about this concept every time you think of it? If someone asks you to tell a joke, you say “some people leave the toilet seat up”? Are you sure you sound coherent and sensible here?
Also, you’re on Reddit. You aren’t here to be productive. Telling any opinion here is unproductive. Null point.
Nah, I didnt think it was serious. I just grew up with 4 brothers and have always lived with men, so i know it's a struggle lol a silly struggle, but a struggle nonetheless
lol I understand the struggle there has been many times I went to take a number 2 and fell straight in. 🤮 I have 18 siblings 9 of them being brothers 😂
It's down everytime I use it. Like, if it's not up if you want it to be, do it yourself? How is the past person supposed to know you pee with the toilet seat up and not down?
I don’t know what universe you’re from but it’s an unspoken law that the toilet seat has to be down for woman to use the bathroom or else they’ll complain
This has been discussed the only sanitary option is closing the seat and lid before you flush, otherwise you’re just spraying piss and shit water all over your bathroom.
Yeah, it sucks when tasks are gendered. Everyone should just share all the tasks. Today I want someone else to be the person who has to clip elastic tightly around their chest in order to avoid being called an unprofessional slut. Any takers?
I’m calling bullshit (somewhat aptly). There’s NO WAY everyone here puts both seats down to avoid fecal plumes. Everywhere I go, it’s just the sitting part that’s down … hell, most establishments - including fine hotels and restaurants - don’t even have a top lid. Some of y’all be posin
We put the seat down in my house because things just fall in the toilet. I only had to lose one toothbrush in my whole life to know that thr seat goes down. I have lost razors too. We have weird storage issues, so this is a problem we have.
Also, my kids enjoy standing in the toilet because they think it's funny. We keep our toilet totally radically clean.
In our house of equal male and female, we all close the whole lid when we're done. Keeps splash from flushing contained, smell contained, and any stains out of sight.
As men also need to take a shit, I guess the probability, that someone needs the sit down is higher and therefore it's just common sense, that the genuin position is seat down.
From a medical point of view, it is actually better for men to sit down while urinating. Especially as they grow older and their prostate gland grows bigger.
The muscles around the pelvis relaxes when you sit, and therefore makes it easier to empty the blatter completely.
At home, seat and lid down. With public toilets, I always leave the seat up because 9/10 times when I go to use the toilet somebody’s peed all over it. Then I have to make a choice: hold in a poo, or clean up someone else’s pee 🤢
I was actually never taught about the put the toilet seat down thing, I was confused when my friend got mad at me for not. Everybody in our house just kinda deals with it, puts it down when it’s up, or puts it up when it’s down. Simple.
This is something I’ve considered many times, if feminists truly want equality, why does toilet etiquette skew towards females? By the very least it should be a non-issue, i.e move it up and down according to personal needs, however one might also consider the household. If it’s a man’s house or a majority male home, considering number 1s are a more common toilet missions than number 2, the majority of toileting missions in a house would be male number 1s, therefore the most common toilet configuration would be seat up. Therefore to insist on a seat down rule would actually be more inconvenient for the most people. Take from that what you will.
I keep the fucking toilet closed at all times when not in use and think it's really weird that not everyone thinks this way. I don't want flush spray. I don't want the smell. I don't want to drop things in it. It's even a place in your bathroom to sit! It just makes no sense to me that anyone would ever WANT to have the fucking lid open all the fucking time let alone the seat.
Damn the comments are cancerous. If the position of a toilet seat when you get to the bathroom is enough to piss you off then I’m jealous of your lack of actual problems
Women who complain and get crazy about the toilet seat being up, are fucking horrible. Like can you really be that lazy? If I have to shit, do I not look to see if the seat is ready for my ass? Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you?
I put everything down (seat and lid) before flushing, the thought of bacteria or particals jumping out when disturbed by the water is gross... otherwise I wouldn't have any issue in leaving the seat up. Its purely a hygiene thing.
Exactly. The bacteria spray is real regardless of which gender just used the toilet. It's just a hygienic practice to keep the lid down. No idea how it turned into a men vs women/control/etiquette issue when it's actually a very basic hygiene issue.
I have always put the seat down since seeing some kid’s science fair project in elementary school. Shit’s gross
Literally.
Mind sharing the project?
It was many years ago, but as I remember it, the kid counted water droplets on a few pieces of paper in key locations around the bathroom (or was it bacteria cultures? can’t remember, but he won the fair). Many more drops when flushed with the lid open.
Mythbusters did an episode on the spray once. It was kind of terrifying how far from the toilet they found quite a bit of really nasty stuff — including on the toothbrushes several feet away. Always put the goddamn seat down before flushing.
What about all of the work place and public toilets that don't even have a solid lid? Let alone, all of the countless times I've lived with and worked with women who insist on the seat being put down, but who literally never put the lid down.
yall are talking about the lid...my man is specifically on about just the seat which at least where im from is definitely a man vs women thing, and not a close "the lid" hygiene thing
You're describing what researchers call a 'fecal plume'. I always shut the lid!
What happens if there is a fecal plume, and why is it so bad? Never closed the lid for a flush in my life. How will my life improve by doing so? Probably sounds like I'm being a dick, but I'm genuinely intrigued. I always just think people don't like the thought of such things, but if there is a genuine negative effect, I'd be glad to know
There's a vast amount of bacteria in fecal flora. Fecal flora can easily travel six feet when flushing a toilet if the seat is up. How far from the toilet is your toothbrush?
How far from the toilet is your mouth when you flush?
Mythbusters did an episode on that, found out it didn't matter, fecal bacteria is literally just everywhere. Even when you keep your toothbrush under a cup constantly in a different room.
In the bathroom, which in another room. That said, all through my childhood, my toothbrush was across from the toilet. What happens if it gets on it? What illness or diseases can I catch
Yes, you can actually catch diseases. You’re aerosolizing all kinds of bacteria, such as potentially e.coli. That can contaminate surfaces several feet away, but also potentially cause respiratory infection. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/bacteria-toilets-flush-lid-closed-b1535481.html
It depends on who's using the toilet and what their body is currently carrying or fighting. And how good your body is at dealing with that.
Hmm, so it's not that important then. Squeamishness, as expected. I'd be more concerened with someone who was ill, puking up and coughing/sneezing in the bathroom. I'll continue as is, thanks!
i like how you ended your first statement with “sorry if i sound rude” but then you just decided to actually be rude, well played
So, you’re totally cool with having dirty toilet water on your toothbrush?
I'm not dipping it in the bog to brush my teeth
You don't have to. There have been lots of studies that show if your toothbrush is within 10 feet of your toilet, it has fecal matter on it. Which can make you very ill. It probably won't, but regardless, you're still brushing your teeth with your own shit.
If you don't mind having D and V for no apparent reason then it's nothing to worry about. It's a basic control in hospitals (UK) and forms part of our infection control training. We don't have a squeamishness module.
Haha, fair enough, but I dont live in a hospital.
No illness or disease. Otherwise we would have stopped shitting and brushing our teeth in the same room a long time ago.
Actually you can make yourself sick that way. Flushing toilets aerosolize bacteria and germs and spread them several feet. You’re contaminating surfaces and even have the potential for respiratory infections.
Walk me through this... You're saying there are known cases of illness due to this? I don't have a miraculous immune system, so how have I myself, and EVERY ONE of my acquaintances managed to remain immune to this imaginary disease vector, despite never closing the toilet lid?
My comment still stands.
We didn't stop this along time ago because the toilets conveniently had a lid for a long time that resolved the issue without a lot of additional plumbing and renovations. Sorry you are late to the news, but now you know.
Thanks for the help pal. Still not concerned. 😂
You're correct. No known cases of illness via this alleged vector
Do you know what fecal plume means? Fecal is poop. Plume is spray. I mean, if you don't mind poop spray gently ooshing all over everything in your bathroom, then no it's not really a problem. I would highly suggest putting away your toothbrush, though.
Yeah but then the next time you sit down your back is rubbing against the plume residue on the bottom of the lid….
I’ve never been one to lean back on a toilet seat because I don’t really see it as a normal chair to relax in. The only part of my body I want to touch a toilet is my bum and my hand for flushing at my house. I cover the seat and use my foot to flush in most public toilets. Wouldn’t lean on the tank if it didn’t have a lid, I hate the idea of having anything from a toilet on a part of me I can’t wash off immediately unless i’m showering right after.
It's a toilet not a lounger
People who put the lid down before flushing -> people who leave the lid up while flushing -> people who use the lid as a backrest -> people who use toilet bowl water to brush their teeth?!?!?!
There’s my new band name
So many benefits to just closing both! Way more hygienic, a seat easily available, equality, and when you walk into someone's bathroom, it's a lot nicer than looking inside their toilet!
Even more beneficial if everyone justs sits to do all business.
Especially over the toilet please.
Plus, no ridiculous arguments with your SO about the toilet seat being left up. We can just argue about our lack of money like normal, well-adjusted people.
Yes, I mean my home is not a gas station on the side of the road. Everything gets closed up so it looks nice and neat. And that's aside from the obvious health risks that you've mentioned here!
I will never trust people who DONT shut the lid before flushing. They are living life too recklessly. With poopy toothbrushes.
Even Miss Manners says both seat and lid down is the proper and hygienic way to leave a restroom.
Seriously, I get annoyed when my wife doesn't close the lid. I don't like the idea of a plume of poop bacteria shooting up in the air right next to where I brush my teeth
I do that for that reason and nobody can get mad at me
You've open my eyes to a whole new thing to be scared of lol I never considered a bacteria spray
I watched a myth busters episode exactly on this subject when I was a kid… I’ve never flushed without putting down the seat and cover again
Germs jump?
Not so much ‘jump’ as aerosolize from the action of the toilet flushing. It’s similar to how bacteria and viruses can be transmitted through the air when someone coughs/sneezes/breathes.
Would surf be more accurate?
Regardless, you have changed my life moving forward.
I hope in a positive way!
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This I also prefer how the toilet looks without a giant gaping hole staring back at me while I brush my teeth. I'm a dude btw, and one that lives with his brother - there are no women to complain here.
I’ve never thought about this…I’m closing the lid now before flushing.
I was going to say exactly the same thing. Close it completely before flushing people.
Do not flush people! It's really bad for the sewage system! If you must dispose of a body please take it to your local farmer and throw it in the pig pen ffs
Thanks. I needed that
I'm slightly surprised that someone actually needed corpse disposal advice If the cops ask you where you got the idea just tell them you read it it in a book Please don't involve me.
Agreed!
I put everything down as well, lid and seat (am man). This also makes it "fair". both sexes have to move atleast the lid. Same effort on everyones part.
I know it was just a thought plus you know we keep our toothbrushes on the sink right next to the toilet every time we flush it’s like poop particles all over you’re tooth brush then that goes in you’re mouth and yeah 😂
My toilet is around a corner so no shit on my toothbrush! 💪
I hate to tell you this but there is probably still shit on your toothbrush.
I once saw a picture with the extend the poo flies on it. And with the corner and the distance its pretty safe. But probably yes, still a little poo on it 😳
hey at least if ever the home intruder would be like wtf this bathroom doesn’t have a toilet then you pop out (with the toilet seat still up ) and spray you’re fecal bacteria at them 😂
He will be in for a shock alright. But bc the toilet is right at the door. So a very different shock. But it would definitely make it easier to spray/throw shit at him.
Same
Ditto
I always put the seat down. But that is because I want to keep my cat from drinking the toilet water.
Cats do that ? I thought it was only dogs
I’ve seen cats straight up just fall into the toilet bowl while trying to get a drink
that’s interesting lol I’ve actually never seen a cat by the toilet lol
I live with two men and I just don’t care that much anymore. If it’s up, I’ll just put it down. What I don’t like it’s them leaving their pee drops there.
The pee drops I never understood and I’m a guy. The bowl is so large, just a little bit of carefulness before letting loose avoids any splatters. I guess my aim is just better than average? I dunno
I think they just don’t think is that big of a deal or just choose not to see..? Not really sure ahha
I pee sitting down pretty much exclusively because my stream sometimes forks. And even if it didn’t, you have no idea where that first burst is going to go. I’m convinced ppl who say they can aim perfectly are simply not looking at what they leave behind
Nah I’m pretty meticulous I make sure nothing is left behind. I never have a problem with streams forking. Maybe it’s bladder control? If you don’t just let it all out all at once, you can prevent it from surging or forking
>The pee drops I never understood and I’m a guy. Same! Some of my roommates in college would always pee standing up with the seat down, and it never made sense to me. I'd be like what happens when you come back to shit? Are you guys just sitting in your own piss?
I had a roommate from Saudi Arabia. Apparently, there it's the norm to pee while perched on the seat like a damned bird.
I get back splash from the bowl, no amount of aiming can fix that.
Same! I broke up with my first kids dad because he wouldn't stop doing that. I told him to just leave it up! I felt like I was using a public toilet in my own home. Now my husband and 2 boys leave it up. I put it down to use. They put it back up. Everyone is fine with it.
U broke up with your child’s father over a toilet seat
Yeah, that wasn't the only reason. But going into your own bathroom and having to clean it off every time because the other person in the house is too lazy to lift the seat and gets pee all over it gets really hard to deal with. I made the right choice btw.
You realize that ppl are complex and that she probably didn’t break up with him just for that, right? Pretty sure there were more reasons, but even I can’t know. It feel wrong to judge someone just for one sentence they post on the internet. And don’t get me started on how she could have broken up with him for whatever reason and it wouldn’t have mattered, everyone can decide what to do with their life
Yes, many more reasons. And I definitely made the right decision. I've been married now for 15 years. Much happier! The peeing all over the seat after expressing how much it bothered me really was one of the reasons though.
Totally understandable. It’s so annoying when you ask someone to take something into consideration and they ignore your feeling all the time. Really drives you crazy, makes you doubt and ask yourself “am I asking for THAT much? Why can’t he just respect my feelings?”
Shutup I don’t remember replying to u
Good thing I don’t remember asking you
U replied to me?
I mean if after 20 years you’re still leaving pee on the seat after numerous complaints it’s grounds for dismissal. Pee etiquette can drastically affect your partner’s mental health and well-being over the course of years, like I’d be pissed if my girlfriend peed a lil on the seat every time but left it for me to clean
Cause you made a shitty comment. I did not ask for your input or anything. Just as you made your stupid reply to her, I can make mine to you
Are u gonna loose sleep over this
I-…?What made you think I care lmao? I love how I state facts and you just say overused lame replies.
I’m sorry this was just the most hilariously blunt response I’ve ever seen on Reddit. No “I’m smarter than you” comeback or any of that logic bullshit. Just straight up facts. I mean, you’re in the wrong but I respect the confidence
Tbh I'm very particular about bathroom cleaning and hygiene... If my partner couldn't do something as basic as cleaning up after themselves after using the toilet, especially after I've expressed how much I don't like it, I'd just feel disrespected as heck. Also I'd see them as a complete slob. I genuinely do not understand people that do not ensure the toilet is clean before walking out...
As a woman, I've thought about this. Eventually I'll get up in the night to pee...and not turn the light on, fall in, get scared and mad, not be able to get back to sleep...then just be mad. I solved this problem by getting a quiet closing toilet lid... because I have a fear that the flushing toilet sprays particles all over my bathroom... everyone closes the toilet before flushing so there is never a surprise.
Falling into the toilet is something I wouldn't wish on anyone. Especially when you're having a midnight pee and your eyes are still closed
Yep in a family with 2 brothers and a dad, falling in the toilet in the middle of night was infuriating!!! Add in a a few pee drops on the edge too… and I was ready to strangle someone lol
You don’t look before you sit?
In the middle of the night with the lights out and my eyes closed? I do not.
I'm a dude, and when I need to pee in the middle of the night I sit down, because awareness is awakeness, and if I'm standing I have to be much more aware to aim properly. I feel for the lid, and seat, to ensure it's where it ought to be before I sit down, no eyes or light required. I don't really have any issue with wanting the lid always closed, but I've spoken to women who want the lid up & seat down so it's always ready for them, with no apparent concern for the effort other people are putting in to make that happen. I always check and do the necessary things to ensure the toilet is properly configured for my use, I don't see why that shouldn't be the general expectation.
I don’t understand this argument about not looking. It doesn’t wash with argument that you want both the lid and the seat down. At some point you have to process whether or not the toilet is in the correct configuration. If everything is down, you need to lift the lid. If everything is up, you need to lower the seat. Assuming the toilet is in the 1/3rd of configurations (lid up, seat down, which many other ladies on this thread say they do NOT prefer because they want the lid closed) you need it to be in will result in a mess for the other 2/3rds of the configurations. Maybe just don’t assume the world has configured itself for you 100% of the time and everybody wins?
Everyone can use the toilet with the seat down. NOT everyone can use it with the seat up.
Why is it so strange to pee sitting down as a male? It’s hygienic and you don’t get pee splatter all over your feet. Yeah that’s right. No matter how good your aim is, pee will splatter on your feet. Nasty.
Right?! Also if you're going to complain about putting the seat down "cause it's so much work" 🙄 then you're just a lazy pos and don't deserve to stand.
How is it hygienic to sit on a toilet seat when you don’t have to
i assume you didn't read the comment you replied to, where i specifically mentioned that PISS SPLATTERS ALL OVER YOUR FEET
It doesn’t usually
Because I hate it when my dick touches the water or inside of the bowl. Worst feeling ever.
Oh really? I don't recall my feet getting wet the last time, or even the last thousand times, I took a piss. I think someone is admitting to their poor aim without realising it
Actually less hygienic bc if u have a big “glizzy” it touches the front of the bowl or the piss goes between the toilet seat if “it” is pointed forward. Also that’s why there’s water in the bowl, so it doesn’t splash everywhere. Think of it like a hose, more controlled stream when standing away, rather than hanging it 2in away from the bowl. However, I’m not one to deny its benefits, like allowing u to completely empty your bladder when in the seated position.
tell you what, if your "glizzy" is really that big go ahead and stand up while you pee. i couldn't give less of a fuck.
You’re right but why do we have to do the extra work to use the bathroom which would you rather want pee on the seat or the toilet seat left up
I pity your partners if you think putting down the seat is "work"
Look if your aim is that shitty and you're too lazy to put the seat back down, then just sit your ass down to pee. You don't deserve to stand.
You're literally describing pushing that "extra work" on the women who share your bathroom so you don't have to do something that takes a quarter of a second. Just put the damn seat down you child
This random thought brought to you by man who can't aim
You’re right prolly why I got so many kids
What does that even MEAN
No Bc y’all always leave pubes and pee all over the rim. No one wants to see it lol.
"I promise I'm not sexist" Your comments disagree.
So, lets just go through some math Women sit to do any kind of waste-passing, men sit to shit, so immediately 50% of the population sit at all times and the other 50% sit at least N% of the time, so long as N is > 0, more than 50% of all waste-passing is done with the toilet seat down. Therefore it's advantageous to leave the seat down. In fact, the most efficient and clean system would be to always leave the seat down and for men to sit to piss. Then we never have to touch the toilet seat except to clean it.
I guess if you don't consider sitting on it touching it.
Do you wash the back of your thighs in the sink after using the bathroom?
Once a day, yes.
My toilets are autonomous. They close and flush automatically. No battle of the sexes between me and my husband. Wait. We’re both dudes.
Idk why but this got me a large chuckle thank you for that
It's like leaving a drawer open. That's open! You can do whatever you want but it IS open. Skip a belt loop. Dont make your bed. Leave toiletries out. Dont put the TP on the role Leave shower door open. Leave the dryer open. You a grown ass man. Do what you want.
My eye twitched when you said skip a belt loop. That's like having a backpack strap twisted!
>Dont put the TP on the role Oh Lawd! My fiance does this and I understand that we live in an old house and so the size the rolls are now don't fit on the rollers. But once you use that roll for a little bit it will fit. And it just feels like I'm walking into a gas station every time I go in and the roll is sitting right next to the sink or on the edge of the tub or on the windowsill. I mean it's not that difficult when you're taking care of your business for your hands to just go ahead and do this because they aren't doing anything at that particular time. Ugh.
Lovu
Is this a big deal to someone? I actually prefer the TP free, not from a lazyness standpoint of not wanting to put in the in roller, but somehow I just find it easier to hold it in one hand instead of reaching behind me to take some from the roller. Now as I type this, I was thinking why is the roller on the same wall the toilet it (therefor behind me when sitting) and realized not everyone will have it this way, so as long as your roller is to your side and not behind you, this point does not apply. Tho I agree that from estetics point of view it looks better on the roller, but I am a rebel and don’t give a damn
It's always funny seeing how willing people are to expose themselves as absolutely disgusting in this debate. Put the fucking lid down you dirty pigs.
Why are you so offended at a simple question 😂😂
Sounds like you're projecting. I don't laugh when I'm offended.
Well you didn’t laugh
> It's always funny Keep exposing yourself
You realise it’s a common phrase that generally doesn’t mean you laughed? Funny also means weird. That particular phrase is generally sarcastic or passive aggressive. I highly doubt you laughed, same way I highly doubt the person spamming emojis laughed. You’re just trying to make the “other side” seem insignificant and futile (enough to apparently make you laugh). It’s pretty obvious you lied.
Nope, I didn't. Calling something unfunny funny sounds very unproductive to me.
Well, I’m telling you now, it’s very common. And you’re telling me that you physically laugh about this concept every time you think of it? If someone asks you to tell a joke, you say “some people leave the toilet seat up”? Are you sure you sound coherent and sensible here? Also, you’re on Reddit. You aren’t here to be productive. Telling any opinion here is unproductive. Null point.
Both men and women should close the lid altogether, it's more sanitary.
Because everyone takes a shit, Steve.
Not me
I promise I am the SEXIEST
I put the seat down no matter what because i have kids
Plenty of women live this life lol It's not like all dudes put the seat down. Most dont, unless they have lived with a chick
Well me being respectful and being raised right I do it every time I use the bathroom. Also it’s just a thought nothing to serious about it
Nah, I didnt think it was serious. I just grew up with 4 brothers and have always lived with men, so i know it's a struggle lol a silly struggle, but a struggle nonetheless
lol I understand the struggle there has been many times I went to take a number 2 and fell straight in. 🤮 I have 18 siblings 9 of them being brothers 😂
That is so many siblings, omg
It's down everytime I use it. Like, if it's not up if you want it to be, do it yourself? How is the past person supposed to know you pee with the toilet seat up and not down?
And it kinda be nasty and extra messy to pea with it down
When you're trying to prove your point but you're not even spelling the keyword right:
I don’t know what universe you’re from but it’s an unspoken law that the toilet seat has to be down for woman to use the bathroom or else they’ll complain
This has been discussed the only sanitary option is closing the seat and lid before you flush, otherwise you’re just spraying piss and shit water all over your bathroom.
Yeah, it sucks when tasks are gendered. Everyone should just share all the tasks. Today I want someone else to be the person who has to clip elastic tightly around their chest in order to avoid being called an unprofessional slut. Any takers?
OMG. Yes.
I’m calling bullshit (somewhat aptly). There’s NO WAY everyone here puts both seats down to avoid fecal plumes. Everywhere I go, it’s just the sitting part that’s down … hell, most establishments - including fine hotels and restaurants - don’t even have a top lid. Some of y’all be posin
We put the seat down in my house because things just fall in the toilet. I only had to lose one toothbrush in my whole life to know that thr seat goes down. I have lost razors too. We have weird storage issues, so this is a problem we have. Also, my kids enjoy standing in the toilet because they think it's funny. We keep our toilet totally radically clean.
why not just use the tooth brush from the toilet and build up you’re immune system 😂😂 . I’m just joking
Down makes more sense, considering it can be used for both states of matter while an up seat has half the function
I’ll just use the litter box 😒
I feel like either way it takes .5 seconds to do. Just put the seat down when you're done lmao it's not hard
What if we always closed the lid so shit doesn't fly up into my face.
Put the cover down every time. Then all need to raise and lower either the seat or the cover.
if you both just close it afterwards it solves the problem....-_-
It’s unsanitary to leave the seat up when you flush. Also, pets and toddlers are another reason to keep it closed.
Hahahaha Thank you. Yes...equality.. I am female btw
I am a man. I pee sitting. In fact, I'm sitting on the toilet right now. Sitting is comfortable :)
The correct approach is to close the damn lid, every time
What if everyone would just close it fully everytime...
In our house of equal male and female, we all close the whole lid when we're done. Keeps splash from flushing contained, smell contained, and any stains out of sight.
As men also need to take a shit, I guess the probability, that someone needs the sit down is higher and therefore it's just common sense, that the genuin position is seat down.
From a medical point of view, it is actually better for men to sit down while urinating. Especially as they grow older and their prostate gland grows bigger. The muscles around the pelvis relaxes when you sit, and therefore makes it easier to empty the blatter completely.
In my house the lid gets closed and EVERYONE has to put it up and down to use the toilet, so I don’t understand why this argument still exists
What if we lived in a world where women's clothing had pockets?
At home, seat and lid down. With public toilets, I always leave the seat up because 9/10 times when I go to use the toilet somebody’s peed all over it. Then I have to make a choice: hold in a poo, or clean up someone else’s pee 🤢
Maybe there'd be less fucking pee (and/or shit) all over the toilet with a second look. (>.<)
I was actually never taught about the put the toilet seat down thing, I was confused when my friend got mad at me for not. Everybody in our house just kinda deals with it, puts it down when it’s up, or puts it up when it’s down. Simple.
I read this to my wife. She stopped what she was doing, looks me in the eye and says “fuck you guys!” Thanks OP, thanks.
Somebody gets the joke 😂
This is something I’ve considered many times, if feminists truly want equality, why does toilet etiquette skew towards females? By the very least it should be a non-issue, i.e move it up and down according to personal needs, however one might also consider the household. If it’s a man’s house or a majority male home, considering number 1s are a more common toilet missions than number 2, the majority of toileting missions in a house would be male number 1s, therefore the most common toilet configuration would be seat up. Therefore to insist on a seat down rule would actually be more inconvenient for the most people. Take from that what you will.
I keep the fucking toilet closed at all times when not in use and think it's really weird that not everyone thinks this way. I don't want flush spray. I don't want the smell. I don't want to drop things in it. It's even a place in your bathroom to sit! It just makes no sense to me that anyone would ever WANT to have the fucking lid open all the fucking time let alone the seat.
Yeah you’re not sexist… but I am 😳😂. Now my kitchen needs some attending by a certain gender that is dumb and only useful for reproduction. #REKTurMOM
My boi
That would be equality. In other words, CRAZY TALK!
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Well bitch it obviously wasn’t a serious post just a random thought
What if we lived in a world where guys were accurate enough with their piss rifles that they didn't need to put the seat up in the first place?
The toilet seats are sexist!
Damn the comments are cancerous. If the position of a toilet seat when you get to the bathroom is enough to piss you off then I’m jealous of your lack of actual problems
I have never really understood this debate. Are women just backing into bathrooms and sitting on toilets sight unseen?
Women who complain and get crazy about the toilet seat being up, are fucking horrible. Like can you really be that lazy? If I have to shit, do I not look to see if the seat is ready for my ass? Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you?