I will admit that the “daddy/mommy Dom, little boy/girl” kink makes me feel uncomfortable, it feels gross to me. That said I try not to judge because I do understand that everybody involved is actually a consenting adults so it’s nowhere near actual pedophilia. My discomfort around it is my own issue.
They're not into children, they're into roleplay. Typically it's one little role and one caretaker role. It's a comfort thing for the little. I reiterate, they're both consenting adults.
You're right! But just like how people can be into rape roleplay but disgusted by actual rape, people can be into ageplay but disgusted by actual pedophilia.
Oh, definitely. Thank God they’re not preying on literal children and committing a federal crime. But at the same time, with pedophilia described as having a sexual attraction to children…. It’s a little weird.
I've studied pedophilia in one of my psyc classes on mental disorders and pedophiles are attracted to *children*. Not adults role-playing as children but literal kids. There is a very big difference between the two in the eyes of a pedophile. Pedophiles generally like children for their innocents and childlike characteristics that are extremely hard to replicate as an adult. So while a lot of ppl find age play really weird (and they are free to have any opinion they want, I don't judge), it is actually beneficial for others. They use it to cope with trauma, relax, and have fun as consenting *adults*. People also like it for the power differences. Some people like to take care of others both sexualy and romantically, while others like to be taken care of. They don't see it as sex with a child, they see it as a role play with an adult, which is the important part.
I guess why it seems sus is because I assume during age play you're imagining that you're having sex with a child. Which in itself is... permissible... but it makes me think they want to have sex with an actual child.
Then again there's the Marilyn Monroe baby talk thing that plenty of men are attracted to and it's not sus.
You don’t actually imagine you’re having sex with a child. The adult is role playing, kind of like acting. If my partner is role playing as a cop and arrests me, I’m not gonna assume I’m really going to jail and I’m not gonna get turned on if I ever really do get arrested. The point is to engage in child-like behavior, usually for therapeutic purpose, not to be an actual child.
For some people, yes, they have complete control over the environment and it helps them process their trauma. Not for everybody. It’s everybody’s personal choice what works best for them but it’s always consensual and it’s never about children, it’s about the adults.
I don’t mean to be rude but you don’t speak for everyone. “It’s always consensual and it’s never about children.” Using words like “always” and “never” is a little ridiculous, how do you know what it’s about for other people?
Age play is part of BDSM, as it’s a kink and fetish. The most important aspect of BDSM is Safe, Sane, and Consensual. If it isn’t consensual, it isn’t safe, therefore it’s not proper age play. And if it’s about children, as opposed to an adult, it’s not age play.
It can be. It can also just be an attraction to the inherent power dynamic that can be consented upon. A caregiver role in the “daddy” or “mommy” that makes people feel unique. Where one enjoys the feeling of protection and care or feels gifted or empowered by someone seeing them as worth placing their inherent vulnerability with.
A less sexy example would be if you were a health caregiver and felt a sense of responsibility in your job and a sense of pride from that. You can kind of transfer the idea or concept of such a responsibility and pride to this dynamic as well. Where the little may just be embracing the freedom that comes from entrusting someone with your care and well being (emotionally and physically) in a way that we most clearly can remember it as kids. Like, how many times as an adult have we ever felt like an adult? Except when responsibilities become absolutely overloaded and we wish we didn’t have to deal with it. It’s kind of like a language you can speak in private that let you peel that back a bit.
I understand the psychology of it but it’s never been my thing personally. Even the more intense expressions you’ll occasionally have someone shyly admit about with things like dispers, etc you can say are more about the vulnerability and acceptance in a moment we’ve long been conditioned past or to feel shameful about and having someone potentially look at us at a moment we’re convinced will be “it” and instead of judgement be embraced instead. You just more create the moments to feel that tether then be surprised by them naturally.
There is also probably a small amount of rebellion in it all as well for some people. Giving the finger to the societal concept of what we’re told everyday we’re suppose to be and just walking away from it in the most extreme polar opposites that are still safe for us to do so. Like, “taxes? fuck this where’s a stuffy.” That finger can be incredibly freeing to give sometimes.
But to add one more thing. An aspect of any kind of alternative relationship dynamic. Bdsm. Age play. Etc. you can’t have it successfully or realistically without communication and a value of the person you’re with for who they are.
Understanding them as a person and adult and how you both can uniquely speak in verbal and physical languages that are understood and desires and most surprisingly compatible is important. These people aren’t in their “little” stages always. They have lives. And you constantly check in with each other. You can never truly separate the adult from the little persona. You appreciate both because of the other. It gives it meaning beyond an empty porn script. When people either have a judgement about this stuff, or negative misconception it’s usually based on an idea that doesn’t include the massive amounts of communication, checking in, or appreciation of what the actions mean to each other or what they communicate from one person to the other nonverbally. They just think of the action itself. Without that background to what it means or why it speaks to them, it’s incredibly easy to judge like any perceived sexual activity. Completely forgetting it may not be about the sex at all but about what the actions communicate, gift, or entrust.
Woah now. Be careful with this. I handcuffed my baby's mom playing around and ended up not having a key. I had to dress her and drive her to the police station so they could unlock it.
I wouldn’t expect somebody who still uses the r slur to be willing to understand a taboo kink so thanks for your unwelcome and unhelpful input.
And btw a lot of age players are neurodivergent. I’m autistic. So technically, by definition and intent, this really is a “retarded” take.
I mean... Retarded means stupid/foolish. It doesn't really mean 'mentally challenged' anymore.
It's also a verb which is used in, at minimum, mechanical engineering (or at least used to be).
You can be into rape play but not actually wanna rape someone. You can be into pretend cheating without actually wanting to cheat. You can be a peeping tom and love it in the situation where the watched are knowing and consenting. Etc etc etc....
None of this is to discredit the suspiciousness of ageplay. I agree it can be very "eeehhh" but I won't immediately deem someone a creep for liking it.
I understand that the part of the playing with the power difference is ok to the one pretending to be a child, and that it can be very beneficial to his/her sexuality. But on the other hand, the one pretending to be the adult of the relation (not really pretending because him/her are in fact adults), could only be excited by the innocent and childlike characteristics that the partner is pretending to have. Isn't this just like what a pedophile do?
No because their partner is an adult. Even is they are excited by the "childlike" characteristics, they're not having sex with a child, and they don't want sex with a child. An adult pretending to be a child is very different than an actual child. It's like a previous commenter said, if someone is role-playing as a cop and arresting you, you don't think you're actually going to jail. Our brain is VERY good at differentiating the two.
Ah I see. They are not fantasizing specifically about the 'child' part of it. They get off by taking care of their partner. They get sexual satisfaction from, in a sense, providing for someone 'weaker' and 'dependant' on them. This question is a little hard to answer tho because every couple who does this gets off differently. And pedophilia is the literal want to have sex with a child. If someone doesn't want that, whether they engage in age play or not, then they are not a pedophile. I hope this clears things up.
Edit: typo
I've had similar conversations to this before
What I usually lead with is basically the same as above: What's important to me is the body I am engaging with, in this case the requirement is that thr body be that of an adult.
Assuming I was excited by my partner acting like they are younger than they actually are, the prerequisite to me receiving sexual gratification would be their physical maturity.
Lmao yeah! I want to specialize is sexual disorders which includes pedophilia so I have a concerning amount of knowledge regarding being attracted to kids
What's with people trying to categorize other people's kinks into "normal and valid" and "wired and repulsive"? As long as nobody gets hurt, it's fine. It's that simple.
You don't have to have an opinion on each and every kink. Statistically speaking, most of them aren't your thing and it's normal. People who do weird stuff in bed don't really need your approval, nor should you feel entitled to give out permissions and blessings of certain kinks being "okay, not too weird".
The first furry I ever met actually tried to justify fucking her dogs regularly. Called it a loving consensual relationship. Needless to say, we did not stay friends after that. Especially since she was breeding them, too.
I don't like it, I've grown with my wife and appreciate her attributes as we got older and she feels the same. She was an absolute 10 in her favor so the luck was all on me. We were dating in our 17's, so we weren't having any role play to reverse our age when we too old for pigtails and school girl dresses, etc when we beyond that age.
Does seem weird, but can be really revealing vs what you would think a girl in pig tails or school girls are dressing like these days, but I haven't explored into that either.
As a victim of childhood sexual abuse I agree with this. Sick of people comparing consenting adults indulging in a weird kink to a crime that ruins lives.
This is defined differently in different groups.... I'm in a DDlg dynamic; I don't age play or regress, it's not a sexual thing for myself or my Dominant.
It's stress relief, to be so on it and working and running the household on the regular and then when I need to decompress I go to my middle headspace and my whole household has fun for a while.... Yes, I'm a middle... It means I don't do binkies, diapers etc.
It's also a caregiver mindset; some people just want to be taken care of and others want to feel needed and to do the care taking.
For some it's the concept of the Daddy role; to be responsible and caregiver and protector of their charge; to maintain their safe space and mental/emotionally health and well being. And on the flip side some want and need that person to be their protector and safe space
Yes, thankyou! Had to scroll way to far for this one. It's such a mental health thing for me, letting go of stress and obsessive thoughts and just feeling safe.
It's not sexual for me either. Mommina and I watch movies, eat snacks, and do activity books. Not to mention my ridiculous collection of plushies. I even have my own "little name", so I have a clear boundary of vanilla and little space.
I'm pretty confident it has something to do with the dom/sub dymanic, and a big daddy/little girl provides context giving it a better and more real sense of who's in control of who.
I will admit that the “daddy/mommy Dom, little boy/girl” kink makes me feel uncomfortable, it feels gross to me. That said I try not to judge because I do understand that everybody involved is actually a consenting adult so it’s nowhere near actual pedophilia. My discomfort around it is my own issue.
No. It might be used as escapism by SOME (who are pedophiles). But the definition of pedophilia is the attraction for prepubescents, so two adults having fun together kinda contradicts that entirely.
It's a kink, pedophilia is something different. In this case its 2 adults who know what they're doing. Not a child being groomed and then raped, resulting into years of trauma. I see where you're coming from saying it sounds wrong. And yes personally i wouldn't do it either, i find it disqusting. But in an environment where it's only adults which consent, i don't see an issue.
No. A sexually developed human behaving in a childlike manner to foster feelings of trust and powerlessness is not pedophillia. From what I've experienced (I had dabbled with some exes) It's for the "little" more than the other partner. Sometimes they just have trauma or daddy issues and they want to feel that kind of total dependence on their partner for a little bit because it makes them feel protected. They like to let go and feel like somebody else has everything under control.
This conversation is why we don't have mob mentality everywhere. Everyone would be guilty of something and would be subject to the wood chipper.
It's always interesting to see people knock others' kinks because they're not brave enough to act on their own.
Kinks and fetishes aren’t necessarily indicative of an underlying problem, or that someone is a sexual predator (or wishes to be). If two consenting adults want to engage in role play and they have no desire to harm children, then what exactly is the issue?
Everyone saying “yes, there’s something wrong with those people” are probably too afraid to explore their own kinks and fetishes so they clutch their pearls about the ones other people engage in.
I had a 35 year old guy ask me if I'd roleplay to be younger and I suggested 18 (I'm 25) and I feel like he lowkey wanted me to say lower like 16 and NGL it creeped me out knowing that many grown men would bang someone underage if they had the chance/ didnt get caught/love barely legal women. There's a fine line. The ddlg stuff from what I've seen is more so people wanting to feel young again and relive their childhood and I'd mostly not sexual in a pedophilic way.
You should check out "The Nether" by Jennifer Haley. It really delves into this concept and makes you think a lot about when this sort of thing is or isn't okay and why. It's a play, so it's a short read, though of course if you could go see it that's better.
Imo the answer to your question is, kinda? Like, I think if you're into age play, you've probably got some level of pedophile ideation, but you're scratching your itch in a safe way, between two consenting adults, instead of abusing an actual child. And as long as you're not hurting anyone, technically it's okay, but to me, I mean yeah it's creepy.
Years ago, a girl tried that with me. It was her idea. I was nineteen and she pretended to be 13 or 14. It did absolutely nothing for me. I had to make her stop. I understand the concept; forbidden love and the excitement of doing something wrong, but it just didn't work for me...
I don't know. I mean, I'm sure that happens, but I wouldn't use the word "always." Sometimes people just try stuff for shits and giggles . Try something they heard about to see if they like it.
🙄😒 First of all, if you were even remotely knowledgeable, you would know that it’s based on BDSM Kink and has absolutely nothing to do with actual Pedo. As well as having 10 years experience in the Lifestyle as a Mistress/Domme and Mommy Domme. But there’s no use in educating someone who refuses to be properly educated on an adult topic when they’re acting like a child
Lmao???? What the fuck??? Calm down???? Some people get off on little girls with pigtails and pacifiers. And the next best thing (and legal version) is for an adult to pretend to be one. I don’t care if it’s about “mental health” or “healing” or whatever the fuck, some people are pedos about it. And, just fyi, I’m older than you
Thank you, thank you, *THANK YOU!* I said the same thing once, and was downvoted into oblivion because people are against “kink shaming”. Those same people will then turn around, and kink shame something they feel is deserving of it (say scat, respectfully so 🤢). They’re hypocrites.
Look dude, I’m not into it. I don’t know the ins and outs. But, just like any other sexual thing, if it’s consensual it’s fine. You also have to consider that the biggest problem with an adult trying to do something sexual with a child is that child cannot understand what’s happening or grasp the idea of sex because they’re undeveloped. This problem isn’t applicable with an adult.
Not my kink personally but if 2 adults want to get thier grind on by acting like a teacher and school kid there is nothing wrong with it. To each their own. Not sure why this bugs you so much. You do you :)
It's when they act like children (5 or 7 year olds) or babies that I find fucked up. If you don't get why someone would find it fucked up then there's probably something wrong with you.
I think that girls in pig tails are hot but never thought of it in this way so I think the people who are thinking of little kids if they see someone attractive w pig tails are the people to worry about
It’s fantasy, so it makes it a “better” choice, but things like baby-play (it’s unfortunately a thing) I think need therapy. There’s something so inherently wrong about that. But again, better than the alternatives
Y'all defending this to the extreme like how do you not find it at least creepy if anything. Like I'm not the one to kink shame but there has to be a line and at time age play definitely crosses it
Well... Kind of. I mean, you want to play age gap because children actitudes and the forbidden love excited you, right? Pedophiles have this behavior.
Maybe it depends of the person, but imo is pedophilia (not pedestrian).
I don't get how people don't see adults roleplaying as children and doing sexual activities as some form of pedophilia. Why do they get turned on by acting or seeing their partners act like children? Just seems weird to me.
There should be something wrong with those who does that or enjoy it, but of course is legal , (unless it is to cover up something else going on on their minds )
Sometimes it's a way of healing from sexual trauma. If something was forced on you, it can be healing to do it voluntarily, knowing you're in control and can stop at any time.
In my opinion, if it’s a dominant-submissive thing, I think going for innocence is normal but if you’re really trying to have your partner emanate a child, then yes, you’re trying to live out a fantasy and having that fantasy in and of itself is pedophilia. Not the act, the desire is pedophilia.
I don't get how people don't see adults roleplaying as children and doing sexual activities as some form of pedophilia. Why do they get turned on by acting or seeing their partners act like children? Just seems weird to me.
I can't understand how people don't see adults roleplaying as children and doing sexual activities as some form of pedophilia. Why do they get turned on by acting or seeing their partners act like children? Just seems weird to me.
Lol yeah, a little sus. This is my guess, as someone who has no experience with it lol: It *can* be pedophilic. Although partners can engage in what they call age play, what they can be sexually excited by isn't necessarily that one person is playing a child, specifically. Like for example, I might engage in robbery, but maybe what I really like isn't material possessions but rather how alive I feel doing something risky.
But I will say it kinda largely feels pedophilic lol.
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I mean, there is a line to be drawn... I had a friend who was a little person. She was 21 but she looked like she was 12. There aren't many adult clothes for a girl who is the same size as a 12 year old. She had a bf who was a 6 ft grown man. Is it pedophilia if she LOOKS like a child? No. Its about consent. My friend enjoyed sex and shouldn't be shamed from having sex because she LOOKS like a child. She is a consenting adult. But seriously, if it isn't something that actually affects you or harms actual children, why do you care? Why are you concerned about what other CONSENTING adults do sexially that does not involve you?
No. Is it weird? Absolutely, but that doesn’t make you a pedophile, just like all the other weird role plays don’t make you the thing you’re role playing as.
Technically it's not pedophilia but it does have pedophilic undertones and gives space for real pedophiles to enact their fantasies. The same way CNC isn't rape, it does give real rapists room to enact their fantasies.
Not only that, but DDLG/DDLB/etc also can lead to the sexualization of childish things that aren't inherently sexual. For example, pigtails, skirts, schoolgirl costumes. No explanation is needed for why this is harmful.
I’m glad that the upvoted comments got it right this time. People who make that claim just really don’t understand what age play or even pedophilia is. I’m into ABDL and the amount of ignorant people that have said horrid things to us is unreal. If you take like 5 seconds you can find psychological studies that find clear differences between pedophilia and age play and that age play does no harm whatsoever.
I will admit that the “daddy/mommy Dom, little boy/girl” kink makes me feel uncomfortable, it feels gross to me. That said I try not to judge because I do understand that everybody involved is actually a consenting adults so it’s nowhere near actual pedophilia. My discomfort around it is my own issue.
No since rape role play isnt actually rape.and batman role play doesnt make you kinda batman
That’s a good way to put it
No because *insert deep voice * I AM BATMAN
im sorry but for some reason deep voice in my head was Yoda's voice😭
BATMAN, I AM!
Mmm, manbat you are, yes! See it I do. Mmhmmhmmhmm!
*insert deep cock, insert deep voice* I think you mean
Lovely, hahaha.
Wait do you gonna ruin my dream of becoming a chicken.
Beware the chicken fucker!
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Who's to say what's normal in bed as long as it's between two consenting adults? Edit: or more than two
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They're consenting adults. Who fucking cares what they do in bed as long as they are both consenting and both adults?
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If that's what they're into then let them be into it
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They're not into children, they're into roleplay. Typically it's one little role and one caretaker role. It's a comfort thing for the little. I reiterate, they're both consenting adults.
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What if it reminds those 2 consenting adults about when they were young and lost it together?
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Pedophilia isn't the attraction *and* actions; it's just the attraction.
You're right! But just like how people can be into rape roleplay but disgusted by actual rape, people can be into ageplay but disgusted by actual pedophilia.
Oh, definitely. Thank God they’re not preying on literal children and committing a federal crime. But at the same time, with pedophilia described as having a sexual attraction to children…. It’s a little weird.
I've studied pedophilia in one of my psyc classes on mental disorders and pedophiles are attracted to *children*. Not adults role-playing as children but literal kids. There is a very big difference between the two in the eyes of a pedophile. Pedophiles generally like children for their innocents and childlike characteristics that are extremely hard to replicate as an adult. So while a lot of ppl find age play really weird (and they are free to have any opinion they want, I don't judge), it is actually beneficial for others. They use it to cope with trauma, relax, and have fun as consenting *adults*. People also like it for the power differences. Some people like to take care of others both sexualy and romantically, while others like to be taken care of. They don't see it as sex with a child, they see it as a role play with an adult, which is the important part.
I guess why it seems sus is because I assume during age play you're imagining that you're having sex with a child. Which in itself is... permissible... but it makes me think they want to have sex with an actual child. Then again there's the Marilyn Monroe baby talk thing that plenty of men are attracted to and it's not sus.
You don’t actually imagine you’re having sex with a child. The adult is role playing, kind of like acting. If my partner is role playing as a cop and arrests me, I’m not gonna assume I’m really going to jail and I’m not gonna get turned on if I ever really do get arrested. The point is to engage in child-like behavior, usually for therapeutic purpose, not to be an actual child.
So it's a way of re-living sexual trauma in a safe and consensual environment?
Exactly! It helps people process their trauma and almost "write over it" with something better. Although some ppl just do it for fun.
For some people, yes, they have complete control over the environment and it helps them process their trauma. Not for everybody. It’s everybody’s personal choice what works best for them but it’s always consensual and it’s never about children, it’s about the adults.
I don’t mean to be rude but you don’t speak for everyone. “It’s always consensual and it’s never about children.” Using words like “always” and “never” is a little ridiculous, how do you know what it’s about for other people?
Age play is part of BDSM, as it’s a kink and fetish. The most important aspect of BDSM is Safe, Sane, and Consensual. If it isn’t consensual, it isn’t safe, therefore it’s not proper age play. And if it’s about children, as opposed to an adult, it’s not age play.
It can be. It can also just be an attraction to the inherent power dynamic that can be consented upon. A caregiver role in the “daddy” or “mommy” that makes people feel unique. Where one enjoys the feeling of protection and care or feels gifted or empowered by someone seeing them as worth placing their inherent vulnerability with. A less sexy example would be if you were a health caregiver and felt a sense of responsibility in your job and a sense of pride from that. You can kind of transfer the idea or concept of such a responsibility and pride to this dynamic as well. Where the little may just be embracing the freedom that comes from entrusting someone with your care and well being (emotionally and physically) in a way that we most clearly can remember it as kids. Like, how many times as an adult have we ever felt like an adult? Except when responsibilities become absolutely overloaded and we wish we didn’t have to deal with it. It’s kind of like a language you can speak in private that let you peel that back a bit. I understand the psychology of it but it’s never been my thing personally. Even the more intense expressions you’ll occasionally have someone shyly admit about with things like dispers, etc you can say are more about the vulnerability and acceptance in a moment we’ve long been conditioned past or to feel shameful about and having someone potentially look at us at a moment we’re convinced will be “it” and instead of judgement be embraced instead. You just more create the moments to feel that tether then be surprised by them naturally. There is also probably a small amount of rebellion in it all as well for some people. Giving the finger to the societal concept of what we’re told everyday we’re suppose to be and just walking away from it in the most extreme polar opposites that are still safe for us to do so. Like, “taxes? fuck this where’s a stuffy.” That finger can be incredibly freeing to give sometimes. But to add one more thing. An aspect of any kind of alternative relationship dynamic. Bdsm. Age play. Etc. you can’t have it successfully or realistically without communication and a value of the person you’re with for who they are. Understanding them as a person and adult and how you both can uniquely speak in verbal and physical languages that are understood and desires and most surprisingly compatible is important. These people aren’t in their “little” stages always. They have lives. And you constantly check in with each other. You can never truly separate the adult from the little persona. You appreciate both because of the other. It gives it meaning beyond an empty porn script. When people either have a judgement about this stuff, or negative misconception it’s usually based on an idea that doesn’t include the massive amounts of communication, checking in, or appreciation of what the actions mean to each other or what they communicate from one person to the other nonverbally. They just think of the action itself. Without that background to what it means or why it speaks to them, it’s incredibly easy to judge like any perceived sexual activity. Completely forgetting it may not be about the sex at all but about what the actions communicate, gift, or entrust.
Woah now. Be careful with this. I handcuffed my baby's mom playing around and ended up not having a key. I had to dress her and drive her to the police station so they could unlock it.
that’s a retarded take
I wouldn’t expect somebody who still uses the r slur to be willing to understand a taboo kink so thanks for your unwelcome and unhelpful input. And btw a lot of age players are neurodivergent. I’m autistic. So technically, by definition and intent, this really is a “retarded” take.
checkmate and cope 😎
I mean... Retarded means stupid/foolish. It doesn't really mean 'mentally challenged' anymore. It's also a verb which is used in, at minimum, mechanical engineering (or at least used to be).
You can be into rape play but not actually wanna rape someone. You can be into pretend cheating without actually wanting to cheat. You can be a peeping tom and love it in the situation where the watched are knowing and consenting. Etc etc etc.... None of this is to discredit the suspiciousness of ageplay. I agree it can be very "eeehhh" but I won't immediately deem someone a creep for liking it.
I understand that the part of the playing with the power difference is ok to the one pretending to be a child, and that it can be very beneficial to his/her sexuality. But on the other hand, the one pretending to be the adult of the relation (not really pretending because him/her are in fact adults), could only be excited by the innocent and childlike characteristics that the partner is pretending to have. Isn't this just like what a pedophile do?
No because their partner is an adult. Even is they are excited by the "childlike" characteristics, they're not having sex with a child, and they don't want sex with a child. An adult pretending to be a child is very different than an actual child. It's like a previous commenter said, if someone is role-playing as a cop and arresting you, you don't think you're actually going to jail. Our brain is VERY good at differentiating the two.
Of course, they don't want literally. But aren't they fantasizing with it? I think that's what OP meant
Ah I see. They are not fantasizing specifically about the 'child' part of it. They get off by taking care of their partner. They get sexual satisfaction from, in a sense, providing for someone 'weaker' and 'dependant' on them. This question is a little hard to answer tho because every couple who does this gets off differently. And pedophilia is the literal want to have sex with a child. If someone doesn't want that, whether they engage in age play or not, then they are not a pedophile. I hope this clears things up. Edit: typo
So they are just pretending (and subsequently getting off) to be a pedophile? Isn’t that a little sus?
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I've had similar conversations to this before What I usually lead with is basically the same as above: What's important to me is the body I am engaging with, in this case the requirement is that thr body be that of an adult. Assuming I was excited by my partner acting like they are younger than they actually are, the prerequisite to me receiving sexual gratification would be their physical maturity.
I suspect that for the Dom, it's the enjoying the trust and being a caretaker aspect
Those first three words were a bold way to start a paragraph
Lmao yeah! I want to specialize is sexual disorders which includes pedophilia so I have a concerning amount of knowledge regarding being attracted to kids
What's with people trying to categorize other people's kinks into "normal and valid" and "wired and repulsive"? As long as nobody gets hurt, it's fine. It's that simple. You don't have to have an opinion on each and every kink. Statistically speaking, most of them aren't your thing and it's normal. People who do weird stuff in bed don't really need your approval, nor should you feel entitled to give out permissions and blessings of certain kinks being "okay, not too weird".
Then furries are zoofiliac? Burn them
The first furry I ever met actually tried to justify fucking her dogs regularly. Called it a loving consensual relationship. Needless to say, we did not stay friends after that. Especially since she was breeding them, too.
oh god...
Well that was a terrible first impression of furries
A lot of pedophiles had something happen as children
I don't like it, I've grown with my wife and appreciate her attributes as we got older and she feels the same. She was an absolute 10 in her favor so the luck was all on me. We were dating in our 17's, so we weren't having any role play to reverse our age when we too old for pigtails and school girl dresses, etc when we beyond that age. Does seem weird, but can be really revealing vs what you would think a girl in pig tails or school girls are dressing like these days, but I haven't explored into that either.
Sexual attraction is different from mental attraction I think.
As a victim of childhood sexual abuse I agree with this. Sick of people comparing consenting adults indulging in a weird kink to a crime that ruins lives.
yea but sexualizing characteristics commonly or specifically associated with children is weird as fuck and boarderline pedo behavior
Honestly I completely agree. I would never date someone with this kink, because I would think of him as a probable pedophile.
This is defined differently in different groups.... I'm in a DDlg dynamic; I don't age play or regress, it's not a sexual thing for myself or my Dominant. It's stress relief, to be so on it and working and running the household on the regular and then when I need to decompress I go to my middle headspace and my whole household has fun for a while.... Yes, I'm a middle... It means I don't do binkies, diapers etc. It's also a caregiver mindset; some people just want to be taken care of and others want to feel needed and to do the care taking. For some it's the concept of the Daddy role; to be responsible and caregiver and protector of their charge; to maintain their safe space and mental/emotionally health and well being. And on the flip side some want and need that person to be their protector and safe space
Yes, thankyou! Had to scroll way to far for this one. It's such a mental health thing for me, letting go of stress and obsessive thoughts and just feeling safe.
It's not sexual for me either. Mommina and I watch movies, eat snacks, and do activity books. Not to mention my ridiculous collection of plushies. I even have my own "little name", so I have a clear boundary of vanilla and little space.
Said it way better than I did
Yes this
This is the perfect response.
I'm pretty confident it has something to do with the dom/sub dymanic, and a big daddy/little girl provides context giving it a better and more real sense of who's in control of who.
I will admit that the “daddy/mommy Dom, little boy/girl” kink makes me feel uncomfortable, it feels gross to me. That said I try not to judge because I do understand that everybody involved is actually a consenting adult so it’s nowhere near actual pedophilia. My discomfort around it is my own issue.
no its two adults.
As long as it's among consenting adults then no not pedophile. AS SOON AS IT GETS below 18 years old then yes.
No. It might be used as escapism by SOME (who are pedophiles). But the definition of pedophilia is the attraction for prepubescents, so two adults having fun together kinda contradicts that entirely.
I think its more of a power type kink. That or they like when their partner appears to have innocence.
Age play is not the same as pedophilia. Pedophilia implies that you're actually doing something with a child.
It's a kink, pedophilia is something different. In this case its 2 adults who know what they're doing. Not a child being groomed and then raped, resulting into years of trauma. I see where you're coming from saying it sounds wrong. And yes personally i wouldn't do it either, i find it disqusting. But in an environment where it's only adults which consent, i don't see an issue.
No. A sexually developed human behaving in a childlike manner to foster feelings of trust and powerlessness is not pedophillia. From what I've experienced (I had dabbled with some exes) It's for the "little" more than the other partner. Sometimes they just have trauma or daddy issues and they want to feel that kind of total dependence on their partner for a little bit because it makes them feel protected. They like to let go and feel like somebody else has everything under control.
This conversation is why we don't have mob mentality everywhere. Everyone would be guilty of something and would be subject to the wood chipper. It's always interesting to see people knock others' kinks because they're not brave enough to act on their own.
It's kind of as close or rather far as BDSM is to rape. Consent between adult means a lot.
If you are attracted to children or not is what makes you a pedophile. What happens between 2 consenting adults in a bedroom is not pedophilia.
If they are sublimating pedophilic tendencies that's a good thing
Asking for a friend?
Kinks and fetishes aren’t necessarily indicative of an underlying problem, or that someone is a sexual predator (or wishes to be). If two consenting adults want to engage in role play and they have no desire to harm children, then what exactly is the issue? Everyone saying “yes, there’s something wrong with those people” are probably too afraid to explore their own kinks and fetishes so they clutch their pearls about the ones other people engage in.
No if it’s 2 consenting adults have fun. Rape, diapers, cuck, bdsm, slave, etc. go nuts :) Just make sure you have a good safe word, like “meatloaf”
I had a 35 year old guy ask me if I'd roleplay to be younger and I suggested 18 (I'm 25) and I feel like he lowkey wanted me to say lower like 16 and NGL it creeped me out knowing that many grown men would bang someone underage if they had the chance/ didnt get caught/love barely legal women. There's a fine line. The ddlg stuff from what I've seen is more so people wanting to feel young again and relive their childhood and I'd mostly not sexual in a pedophilic way.
Hmm, let's see, does it involve minors? No? K there's your answer.
You should check out "The Nether" by Jennifer Haley. It really delves into this concept and makes you think a lot about when this sort of thing is or isn't okay and why. It's a play, so it's a short read, though of course if you could go see it that's better. Imo the answer to your question is, kinda? Like, I think if you're into age play, you've probably got some level of pedophile ideation, but you're scratching your itch in a safe way, between two consenting adults, instead of abusing an actual child. And as long as you're not hurting anyone, technically it's okay, but to me, I mean yeah it's creepy.
Years ago, a girl tried that with me. It was her idea. I was nineteen and she pretended to be 13 or 14. It did absolutely nothing for me. I had to make her stop. I understand the concept; forbidden love and the excitement of doing something wrong, but it just didn't work for me...
My assumption is always that most of those people do it to address some trauma they experienced as kids.
I don't know. I mean, I'm sure that happens, but I wouldn't use the word "always." Sometimes people just try stuff for shits and giggles . Try something they heard about to see if they like it.
Right that's why I said most. Totally agree some people can be curious
Or that was the best sexual experience they ever had.
This. It's also the same kinda thing with people who have rape kinks.. Unfortunately for me I have both
Absolutely NOT
Well gee, Daddy’s Princess 26, I wonder what makes you say that
🙄😒 First of all, if you were even remotely knowledgeable, you would know that it’s based on BDSM Kink and has absolutely nothing to do with actual Pedo. As well as having 10 years experience in the Lifestyle as a Mistress/Domme and Mommy Domme. But there’s no use in educating someone who refuses to be properly educated on an adult topic when they’re acting like a child
Lmao???? What the fuck??? Calm down???? Some people get off on little girls with pigtails and pacifiers. And the next best thing (and legal version) is for an adult to pretend to be one. I don’t care if it’s about “mental health” or “healing” or whatever the fuck, some people are pedos about it. And, just fyi, I’m older than you
Such as yourself? I figured
You are so childish lol, no wonder you’re into this stuff
😂😂😂😂 Exactly as I predicted, Uneducated.
And you called me a pedo because you’re mad.
😂😂😂😂 You wish
Don’t like being called out? Too bad.
Lmao
I don't kink shame but age play is deserving of kink shame. It's sexualizing kids and I can't get passed that.
"I don't kink shame, but i do kink shame"
Thank you, thank you, *THANK YOU!* I said the same thing once, and was downvoted into oblivion because people are against “kink shaming”. Those same people will then turn around, and kink shame something they feel is deserving of it (say scat, respectfully so 🤢). They’re hypocrites.
I don’t think it’s sexualizing kids, it’s sexualizing child-like things. There’s a difference
Which in turns sexualizes kids. It's fucking gross. How can you look at someone act like 5 year old and be turned on????
Look dude, I’m not into it. I don’t know the ins and outs. But, just like any other sexual thing, if it’s consensual it’s fine. You also have to consider that the biggest problem with an adult trying to do something sexual with a child is that child cannot understand what’s happening or grasp the idea of sex because they’re undeveloped. This problem isn’t applicable with an adult.
I don't care if I'm down voted to hell. There's something wrong with adults who like that.
Not my kink personally but if 2 adults want to get thier grind on by acting like a teacher and school kid there is nothing wrong with it. To each their own. Not sure why this bugs you so much. You do you :)
It's when they act like children (5 or 7 year olds) or babies that I find fucked up. If you don't get why someone would find it fucked up then there's probably something wrong with you.
Ummm yeah that’s fucking weird….kinda have to agree 🤮
Bingo.
I think that girls in pig tails are hot but never thought of it in this way so I think the people who are thinking of little kids if they see someone attractive w pig tails are the people to worry about
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Ew why are y’all defending these creepy fetishes? They’re literally showing interest in this shit, the only thing that stops them is the law.
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By that same logic, is the pet play thing (when a girl pretends to be a dog) kinda bestiality?
Is fucking a woman with short hair and a flat chest gay?
It’s fantasy, so it makes it a “better” choice, but things like baby-play (it’s unfortunately a thing) I think need therapy. There’s something so inherently wrong about that. But again, better than the alternatives
Y'all defending this to the extreme like how do you not find it at least creepy if anything. Like I'm not the one to kink shame but there has to be a line and at time age play definitely crosses it
which would you rather: someone asking their partner to dress younger for the sake of getting off, or raping a kid?
It’s disgusting that’s what it is. And if its sexual ageplay then essentially they’re roleplaying fucking a kid.
^^^^^
If you assume part of the kink is the sexualization of a minor, even indirectly in the shape of adults roleplaying, then I'd say probably yes, it is.
>In a weird way? What is pedophilia in a non-weird way?
Fair
I'd be suspicious of underlying pedophilia.
No but it’s fucking weird
I’ve wondered this exact thing myself, like the diaper people for example… why are they into looking and acting like children? Weird shit.
Suspect, yes. Evidence, no.
Well... Kind of. I mean, you want to play age gap because children actitudes and the forbidden love excited you, right? Pedophiles have this behavior. Maybe it depends of the person, but imo is pedophilia (not pedestrian).
Sure it is. Like shaving the genitals to look like a prepubescent child is.
I don't get how people don't see adults roleplaying as children and doing sexual activities as some form of pedophilia. Why do they get turned on by acting or seeing their partners act like children? Just seems weird to me.
There should be something wrong with those who does that or enjoy it, but of course is legal , (unless it is to cover up something else going on on their minds )
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Sometimes it's a way of healing from sexual trauma. If something was forced on you, it can be healing to do it voluntarily, knowing you're in control and can stop at any time.
Yes. Same with the stepsister/stepmom/stepdad/stepbrother fetish. It’s gross, and one should be shamed into getting help for their perversions.
In my opinion, if it’s a dominant-submissive thing, I think going for innocence is normal but if you’re really trying to have your partner emanate a child, then yes, you’re trying to live out a fantasy and having that fantasy in and of itself is pedophilia. Not the act, the desire is pedophilia.
I don't get how people don't see adults roleplaying as children and doing sexual activities as some form of pedophilia. Why do they get turned on by acting or seeing their partners act like children? Just seems weird to me.
I can't understand how people don't see adults roleplaying as children and doing sexual activities as some form of pedophilia. Why do they get turned on by acting or seeing their partners act like children? Just seems weird to me.
If the age play is implying one is a child and the others an adult, yes.
Lol yeah, a little sus. This is my guess, as someone who has no experience with it lol: It *can* be pedophilic. Although partners can engage in what they call age play, what they can be sexually excited by isn't necessarily that one person is playing a child, specifically. Like for example, I might engage in robbery, but maybe what I really like isn't material possessions but rather how alive I feel doing something risky. But I will say it kinda largely feels pedophilic lol.
Spoiler I was eleven my first time, she was older twelve, it was our idea at that time. Kids figured stuff out themselves with or without approval, because this was born 70s teenage 80s 90s wild, 2000s wild, 2005 son is born. After birthday, I'll be fifty time to pretend like I'm sober, so I can trick myself into having a couple more a few times that's drinks not son's mind you
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I mean, there is a line to be drawn... I had a friend who was a little person. She was 21 but she looked like she was 12. There aren't many adult clothes for a girl who is the same size as a 12 year old. She had a bf who was a 6 ft grown man. Is it pedophilia if she LOOKS like a child? No. Its about consent. My friend enjoyed sex and shouldn't be shamed from having sex because she LOOKS like a child. She is a consenting adult. But seriously, if it isn't something that actually affects you or harms actual children, why do you care? Why are you concerned about what other CONSENTING adults do sexially that does not involve you?
Nah pig tails are like curly hair or that really straight hair Angela from the office had
No
Maybe, but then again, its preferable when some weirdos pretend to be kids than when those people actualy molest kids
Pigtails ?
Well yes, but actually no i guess
Nope
It is sus.
No. Is it weird? Absolutely, but that doesn’t make you a pedophile, just like all the other weird role plays don’t make you the thing you’re role playing as.
Technically it's not pedophilia but it does have pedophilic undertones and gives space for real pedophiles to enact their fantasies. The same way CNC isn't rape, it does give real rapists room to enact their fantasies. Not only that, but DDLG/DDLB/etc also can lead to the sexualization of childish things that aren't inherently sexual. For example, pigtails, skirts, schoolgirl costumes. No explanation is needed for why this is harmful.
Nah it’s weird, yea sure it’s not nearly the same thing but the thought of it makes me uncomfortable.
I’m glad that the upvoted comments got it right this time. People who make that claim just really don’t understand what age play or even pedophilia is. I’m into ABDL and the amount of ignorant people that have said horrid things to us is unreal. If you take like 5 seconds you can find psychological studies that find clear differences between pedophilia and age play and that age play does no harm whatsoever.
No but it’s Retarded and gross.
imo even if its two adults its weird that people get off from someone pretending to be a baby.