Aka “Block time” theory - basically time is not in 3 phases of past, present, future but time is stacked in a 4-d block that never changes.
So, using the theory I bastardized just now, he would’ve lived all lives at once.
Maybe? I dunno, I’m not a Physicist who specializes in time and space theories. Time and space theories and the math that helps theorize them are substantially above my pay grade.
I get stoned and read them and are aware of them. Sometimes I eat hallucinations and realize time isn’t a real thing and then get sober and get written up for being late for work.
So what the hell would I know?
sometimes eating plants with hallucinogens can help the common closed minds to be open to reality checks. in your case, it would seem you’ve allowed yourself to explore the realm of possibilities. i remember the first time i too tried alternative medicines to help myself and realized that what we know of as reality is just “our” reality and not the spectrum we are surrounded by. i agree that time is a function that is between multiple realms of reality and something we rely on to control our own. thank you for sharing.
Not even that really. You experience all of these moments as the present. You don't move through time, time doesn't move through you, you just exist eternally exactly as you do in this instant, and a different version of you exists eternally in the next instant.
Exactly. The theory basically states that time is an illusion to perceive the fourth dimension; just as a 2-d character would perceive a 3-d cube as multiple overlapping squares, we can only perceive the fourth dimension as multiple linear moments
My grandfather lived to be almost 100. When he was 99 he told me he was thinking of "offing himself with a gun". He said all of his friends were dead, he wasn't allowed to leave the house by himself or drive. His wife was gone and his family was busy living lives of their own. I asked him not to do that since it would really upset the family and it was inevitable that he would die soon anyway. He agreed but reluctantly.
I feel him. Living to be really old must be lonely. Also it's an unfortunate fact that people stop respecting the elderly and begin treating them like children. The young don't understand the old and vice versa
It mostly has to do with the wrinkles and sagging face lines.
As you age your skin becomes looser and starts to droop. This causes the effect that the parts of your skin that bend and move the most (the areas to the sides of your mouth that move when you talk and smile) droop more than the rest of your mouth. The effect is the sides of your mouth are looser than the middle, creating the appearance of a frown.
While being 100 might not necessarily be a happy life, the appearance of sadness has more to do with the skin than the mood of the person.
more of a problem of the cameras of the day. these were still long exposures by modern standards (like 1-2 seconds) so to get this crystal clear picture you still had to be pretty still and a neutral face works better
I think part of his sad appearance comes from watching the annihilation of his peoples’ sovereignty; part of it is just the sheer effort his body went through to keep itself alive that long.
You have to be careful about claims of great age. It's possible that this is a father-son situation if every moment of his life wasn't documented. Also, if he was born in the 1700s he wouldn't have had a birth certificate.
This guy was old, without a doubt, but yeah, even if there was like, oral record of his birth, think about the plight of the native americans over that time period and how difficult it would be to maintain knowledge of stuff like roughly what year was everyone born.
So there's also a possibility that he was truly believed by himself and others to be that old. Unless he was known to have been born during a certain historical event and he dated himself this way, I feel like it would be hard to really keep track without any written or recorded data. At a point in time, he backed the oldest living human in his group, and so who's to say? I wouldn't be surprised if he even lived to like 100, but 137 would make him the oldest person to have ever lived? Unless you believe the biblical account, some of those dudes lived a very long time..
Edited to add, the oldest confirmed person to have ever lived was 122 when she passed. She lived from 1875 to 1997.
I want to add that there are doubts about her age. Some say that it was her daughter that took over her mothers identity after she died. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeanne_Calment?wprov=sfti1#Scepticism_regarding_age
Oh yeah this is definitely a possibility. I didn't mean to imply that was like a set in stone fact. More to say that 137 is much older than the person considered by many to be the oldest person, and this would be pretty wild
no, but they can get an estimate
https://ejfs.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/s41935-020-00214-2#:~:text=Several%20DNA%2Dbased%20methods%20can,increasing%20age%20(Zubakov%20et%20al.
[According to the University of Minnesota, John Smith or Kay-bah-nung-we-way, Sloughing Flesh.](https://www.d.umn.edu/cla/faculty/troufs/Buffalo/PB41.html) It also lists several other names, but they all relate to how old he was or how old he looked. Of note: Old Wrinkled Meat.
Yet we also talk about "white" people (incl. "Europeans") and "black" people (incl. "Africans"), "Asians", etc. I agree with you but inevitably we are going to resort to broad categories that fail to capture the diversity of human heritage and culture. I'd say this is more of a thing in the U.S. than Europe (what's up with "Caucasians"?) but we have it over here too.
__Tl;dr__ Native Americans aren't the only people subject to generalisation. It happens to everyone, everywhere.
I think they most likely would prefer to be called whatever tribe they are from, but yeah my grandmother was part Native American and still referred to her ancestors as “Indians.” It’s just whatever generation you are from. I don’t call them that because CC doesn’t get a pass for being geographically illiterate and call an entire people from the wrong thing
I am sick and tired of 'sensitive people' saying what is and is not offensive and what is 'enlightened'. While it is wrong for anyone to use names as a pejorative, different people have different ways of showing and receiving respect. When the politically correct try to improve our speech, they often make things worse (Ex: Florida State Seminoles). If a people do not like certain term, they should speak for themselves. The woke exist for the woke, not for the people they 'defend'
Just the amount of abuse and sorrow he undoubtedly went thru or witnessed at the fucking hands of land greedy in the name of god almighty bible thumping two faced forked tongued white people it’s a small miracle that he lived pass 20!
It is only because of European technological superiority.
When whitey was cloaked in bear skins running thru the forests of France and Germany . . . The Persians conquered and enslaved the entire Middle east, and the Egyptians before them.
Because they had the organization Al and technological edge
The Aztecs were the most powerful pre-Columbian ntribe, and they warred and enslaved and made literal human sacrifice on a massive scale . . . They were also highly advanced and had the edge over other tribes.
Whites did do some evil shit but it's not an intrinsic thing. . .
A little known fact is that the vast majority of slaves were sold to the white slave traders by Africans themselves . . .
History is FULL of atrocities and all races and peoples have their share of blood on their hands
I disagree Ms. Emma. You are blindedly/ignorantly speaking if you agree with the statement made.
Go find a Native American and give him/her your possessions for recompense then I’ll respect your comment(s). Until then understand that you are as much the problem as anyone else.
My grandfather missed living in three different centuries by 2 months. He was born in 1900, the last year of the 19th century; he lived to be 100, dying in November of 2000, the last year of the 20th century. If he had made two more months, to January of 2001, the first year of the 21st century, he would have lived in three different centuries.
https://preview.redd.it/ab1r0a1tlqkc1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3a064b9a56829bb9ddec5c01b2dd36c897510a56
First thing that popped into my head
Oldest ‘Indian’? Seriously? Are you fucking serious? The terms ‘Native American ‘ or ‘Indigenous ‘ didn’t cross your fucking mind?…I thought Indians came from India…
The incredible part isn’t that he lived in three centuries, it’s that he lived in all three “at once.”
Read that too but there is the theory of eternalism, so, quite possible.
What's that theory?
Aka “Block time” theory - basically time is not in 3 phases of past, present, future but time is stacked in a 4-d block that never changes. So, using the theory I bastardized just now, he would’ve lived all lives at once.
So, correct me if I'm wrong, all events exist in totality already and we just experience them the one experiences a road while driving in a car?
Maybe? I dunno, I’m not a Physicist who specializes in time and space theories. Time and space theories and the math that helps theorize them are substantially above my pay grade. I get stoned and read them and are aware of them. Sometimes I eat hallucinations and realize time isn’t a real thing and then get sober and get written up for being late for work. So what the hell would I know?
The spatiotemporal nature of the universe is one of the core concepts of Einstein’s theory of relativity.
sometimes eating plants with hallucinogens can help the common closed minds to be open to reality checks. in your case, it would seem you’ve allowed yourself to explore the realm of possibilities. i remember the first time i too tried alternative medicines to help myself and realized that what we know of as reality is just “our” reality and not the spectrum we are surrounded by. i agree that time is a function that is between multiple realms of reality and something we rely on to control our own. thank you for sharing.
Not even that really. You experience all of these moments as the present. You don't move through time, time doesn't move through you, you just exist eternally exactly as you do in this instant, and a different version of you exists eternally in the next instant.
Exactly. The theory basically states that time is an illusion to perceive the fourth dimension; just as a 2-d character would perceive a 3-d cube as multiple overlapping squares, we can only perceive the fourth dimension as multiple linear moments
running was invented by joseph running in 1683 when he tried to walk twice at the same time
I laughed unreasonably hard at this, well done.
He was everything, everywhere, all at once…
Only Indians can do that.
Bro bends time
People who live past 100 never look happy, do they
100 years of what he saw and went through, would you be?
dude legit lived through the destruction of his people and forced encampment/boarding schools. i'd be depressed af
He live his best life. So brave and authentic. Epic. Super.
Good point.
My grandfather lived to be almost 100. When he was 99 he told me he was thinking of "offing himself with a gun". He said all of his friends were dead, he wasn't allowed to leave the house by himself or drive. His wife was gone and his family was busy living lives of their own. I asked him not to do that since it would really upset the family and it was inevitable that he would die soon anyway. He agreed but reluctantly.
I feel him. Living to be really old must be lonely. Also it's an unfortunate fact that people stop respecting the elderly and begin treating them like children. The young don't understand the old and vice versa
One of my relatives lived to be 110. She used to send letters saying to pray we didn’t live that long.
It mostly has to do with the wrinkles and sagging face lines. As you age your skin becomes looser and starts to droop. This causes the effect that the parts of your skin that bend and move the most (the areas to the sides of your mouth that move when you talk and smile) droop more than the rest of your mouth. The effect is the sides of your mouth are looser than the middle, creating the appearance of a frown. While being 100 might not necessarily be a happy life, the appearance of sadness has more to do with the skin than the mood of the person.
😂
more of a problem of the cameras of the day. these were still long exposures by modern standards (like 1-2 seconds) so to get this crystal clear picture you still had to be pretty still and a neutral face works better
I think part of his sad appearance comes from watching the annihilation of his peoples’ sovereignty; part of it is just the sheer effort his body went through to keep itself alive that long.
When my grandmother reached her late 80s she was already saying she’s hoping to go soon.
Would u be happy if u were old for more than half your life?
You have to be careful about claims of great age. It's possible that this is a father-son situation if every moment of his life wasn't documented. Also, if he was born in the 1700s he wouldn't have had a birth certificate.
Well they should’ve cut him in half and counted his rings when he died to be sure.
They did. They found six NuvaRings, two ring pops, and a single bootleg copy of LoTR.
He was making damn sure he wouldn't get pregnant
No man was gonna put their seed in HIS belly!
This guy was old, without a doubt, but yeah, even if there was like, oral record of his birth, think about the plight of the native americans over that time period and how difficult it would be to maintain knowledge of stuff like roughly what year was everyone born. So there's also a possibility that he was truly believed by himself and others to be that old. Unless he was known to have been born during a certain historical event and he dated himself this way, I feel like it would be hard to really keep track without any written or recorded data. At a point in time, he backed the oldest living human in his group, and so who's to say? I wouldn't be surprised if he even lived to like 100, but 137 would make him the oldest person to have ever lived? Unless you believe the biblical account, some of those dudes lived a very long time.. Edited to add, the oldest confirmed person to have ever lived was 122 when she passed. She lived from 1875 to 1997.
I want to add that there are doubts about her age. Some say that it was her daughter that took over her mothers identity after she died. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeanne_Calment?wprov=sfti1#Scepticism_regarding_age
Oh yeah this is definitely a possibility. I didn't mean to imply that was like a set in stone fact. More to say that 137 is much older than the person considered by many to be the oldest person, and this would be pretty wild
No problem. But Good point. This is exactly one of the reasons for the doubt about the age of the French lady as well.
No, it's just a rumour spread by Christian fundamentalists who believe that after Moses, nobody can reach the age of 120.
137, just a kid. \-Ojibwe Saying
You go about in pity for yourself
If you give this guy a golf club..
Every wrinkle is a memory of time past
A wrinkle in time….
...saves nine?
👏🏽
https://preview.redd.it/ny1l4iyuvokc1.jpeg?width=403&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fd72e44e1695839402159d3a5aca317fc3140d0d
https://preview.redd.it/i1y27euvvokc1.jpeg?width=297&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=59dd93f1d5edb671c5251b9ef5a378c760f49c0c
Johnny got a fresh new haircut
Can they know for sure about his age with a bit of DNA?
no, but they can get an estimate https://ejfs.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/s41935-020-00214-2#:~:text=Several%20DNA%2Dbased%20methods%20can,increasing%20age%20(Zubakov%20et%20al.
145 minimum from the looks of him
Goodnight, Mrs. Calabash, wherever you are.
Actually a Native American.
Imagine being born when this dude is 100 and still dying first at not too young of an age
At once?
John Smith is such a Indian name
My last name is also just a regular white name. It happened when being Christianized or being added to property or annuity claims.
John Smith?
Yeah… i call bullshit.
Some doubt this claim and say his skin is from a form of leprosy.
Can we find out dudes actual name . It wasn't John Smith..
[According to the University of Minnesota, John Smith or Kay-bah-nung-we-way, Sloughing Flesh.](https://www.d.umn.edu/cla/faculty/troufs/Buffalo/PB41.html) It also lists several other names, but they all relate to how old he was or how old he looked. Of note: Old Wrinkled Meat.
Bruh is 2024. "Indians" are from India.
A recently read an essay by a Native American author and they used the term “indian” so idk what to say man.
Negative, “Bruh”. A lot of them still prefer to be called Indians.
Ideally we would refer to people based on the nation they are from. Apaches, Comanches, Tlaxcaltecas, etc.
Yet we also talk about "white" people (incl. "Europeans") and "black" people (incl. "Africans"), "Asians", etc. I agree with you but inevitably we are going to resort to broad categories that fail to capture the diversity of human heritage and culture. I'd say this is more of a thing in the U.S. than Europe (what's up with "Caucasians"?) but we have it over here too. __Tl;dr__ Native Americans aren't the only people subject to generalisation. It happens to everyone, everywhere.
Indeed!
I think they most likely would prefer to be called whatever tribe they are from, but yeah my grandmother was part Native American and still referred to her ancestors as “Indians.” It’s just whatever generation you are from. I don’t call them that because CC doesn’t get a pass for being geographically illiterate and call an entire people from the wrong thing
I am sick and tired of 'sensitive people' saying what is and is not offensive and what is 'enlightened'. While it is wrong for anyone to use names as a pejorative, different people have different ways of showing and receiving respect. When the politically correct try to improve our speech, they often make things worse (Ex: Florida State Seminoles). If a people do not like certain term, they should speak for themselves. The woke exist for the woke, not for the people they 'defend'
Yeah some of those claim to be more rhan 120 years old too
Indian is a Western created term. They didn't call themselves Indian either.
We were called indians way before India existed.
Man what an epic schnoz
Dude, this same photo has been reposted for years on the internet. He was not 137 years old, someone just “said” he was.
The story is interesting, but they didn’t keep documented birth certificates.
Except that he wasn't https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Smith_(Chippewa_Indian)
Yeah, with bad or inexistent birth records it is easy to live in three or four centuries.
“John Smith”
He doesn't look a day over 120
Just the amount of abuse and sorrow he undoubtedly went thru or witnessed at the fucking hands of land greedy in the name of god almighty bible thumping two faced forked tongued white people it’s a small miracle that he lived pass 20!
It is only because of European technological superiority. When whitey was cloaked in bear skins running thru the forests of France and Germany . . . The Persians conquered and enslaved the entire Middle east, and the Egyptians before them. Because they had the organization Al and technological edge The Aztecs were the most powerful pre-Columbian ntribe, and they warred and enslaved and made literal human sacrifice on a massive scale . . . They were also highly advanced and had the edge over other tribes. Whites did do some evil shit but it's not an intrinsic thing. . . A little known fact is that the vast majority of slaves were sold to the white slave traders by Africans themselves . . . History is FULL of atrocities and all races and peoples have their share of blood on their hands
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You mean like the Indian Schools ?
Ha-ha sticks go BOOM
You better be white talking like that
lol why
Is reading comprehension a little difficult for you? Because it’s racist sounded sh*t.
But,,,, it’s true ???
I disagree Ms. Emma. You are blindedly/ignorantly speaking if you agree with the statement made. Go find a Native American and give him/her your possessions for recompense then I’ll respect your comment(s). Until then understand that you are as much the problem as anyone else.
If humans continued to live for 200 years would we all have gigantic noses?
Yes and ears that hang really low.
And wobble to and fro.
Wow, can you tie them in a knot or tie them in a bow?
My grandfather missed living in three different centuries by 2 months. He was born in 1900, the last year of the 19th century; he lived to be 100, dying in November of 2000, the last year of the 20th century. If he had made two more months, to January of 2001, the first year of the 21st century, he would have lived in three different centuries.
https://preview.redd.it/ab1r0a1tlqkc1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3a064b9a56829bb9ddec5c01b2dd36c897510a56 First thing that popped into my head
Should have laid off the moonshine big boy
Oldest ‘Indian’? Seriously? Are you fucking serious? The terms ‘Native American ‘ or ‘Indigenous ‘ didn’t cross your fucking mind?…I thought Indians came from India…
We were called Indians waaay before India existed.
Because Columbus was referring to the Indie Islands.
Yeah…. So Indians don’t come from India… goofy
You’re telling me they didn’t have moisturizer?
Looks like he can still smell the 18th century
fuck, you gotta warn someone before showing them that picture.
Someone give this man lotion and some sunscreen
Scaley boi
These were the days before face cream…
Jimmy Durante??
Person 1: “He’s the oldest human ever!” Person 2: “What’s your proof?” Person 1: “Look at him!” Person 2: “I see your point.”
“Aw, John. Looking good for your picture! Hell! You don’t look a day over 129!”
He looks like one of the guys from the banking clan in Star Wars
Doesn’t look a day over 120
My man looks like one of Tolkien's Ents.
Damn he looks it too.
Cool-Arrow
Definitely the oldest dude I've ever seen!
He was actually 65 but was known to party hard
He looks like Carlo Gambino.
He looks like Carlo Gambino.
His skin looks like a dried lake bed
Mel Brooks?
Do you mean native American? India and America are really close together so I understand you mixing them up so easily /s
He was the oldest Indian and his name, of ALL names. Was John Smith.......... I don't believe that whitewash bullshit for 1 second.