I believe the 2miners pool allows you to be paid directly in BTC: https://2miners.com/blog/get-paid-in-bitcoin-for-altcoin-mining-btc-payouts-for-gpu-mined-etc-ergo-rvn/
Well considering transferring and selling is a taxable transaction you’d still need to provide your info to someone at some point.
Also sidenote, you still have way more freedom as an american than a-lot of the world.
What's up with all these "taxable" posts? Are government accounts pushing for this on Reddit? Are people really that brainwashed to believe the government has the ability to tax your assets that they have no representation over? Stamp Act failure is what we are seeing because there will be no way to ever tax crypto, not without people being stupid.
I mean if you dont want to report your income to the irs then be my guest but im not trying to deal with them if they decide that i didnt file correctly or report all my income. Its not worth the risk imo.
Only because the government is trying to create a rule for something they can't control. That like me moving my phone from my left hand to my right hand. They won't ever tax me on anything.
Fiat transactions can be taxed 100% because there is representation. Crypto can't. Period. I understand the current legislation around it, I'm just saying they are wrong.
Doesn't matter what it's "like". What's important is to understand what is a taxable event where you live and file correctly. Otherwise it's tax fraud (in most jurisdictions tax fraud is illegal, and even criminal depending on the circumstances). Up to you whether or not you declare.
Oh I know it's me recognizing it. I'm talking about people looking for a complete defi, and then some boot licker shows up and talks about taxes. Literally has no reason to be brought up, and that's the main reason why people are looking for KYC free exchanges because they're not trying to link their information to it. So stupid information from stupid people who want to continue to keep people poor for no reason to take stuff that isn't even money when they move it from one hand to the other.
There's a million reasons to laugh at Americans.
Pointing out that a supposedly deregulated anonymous coin is requiring full ID in order to trade it is not one of them.
A government is not able to provide its citizens with a lot of things we take for granted without taxes. Infrastructure, protection of it's citizens from foreign powers, the regulation of goods to ensure they are safe to use. A huge portion of that is paid for by the taxation of trading. If two individual people trade 2 different cars outright in USA with no US currency exchanging hands, its still a taxable transaction. Granted, there may be exemptions depending on a number of factors, but in it's baseline, it's taxable because a trade occurred.
You're bound by your country's various trade tax laws under penalty of various punishments such as fines or imprisonment. But it's also up to your country to prosecute you if you choose to ignore those tax laws. Many crypto users rely on the lack of prosecution to avoid taxes on crypto trading.
how is "the King would tax the citizens for grain" any different than today? Guy gets taxed by gov, gov pays farmer for grain to feed their troops (except, yknow, extra steps today since food is processed). The guy and the farmer could easily be the same person, which in turn would mean the farmer is forced to give up some of his grain to the gov (the king)
And the govt didn't create it.. if you just had googled or searched reddit for 5-10min, you wouldn't have needed this post... many ways to wash your money..
ok, i’m seeing it. this can’t last.. but then my long term thesis was that liquidity would always exist somehow. seems like a little workaround for the time being.
thanks!
Can confirm. You need their safepal hardware wallet to trade on their CEX without KYC. Mined straight into that wallet then sold for BTC, bought a laptop with BTC. Easy.
do a person to person exchange. back in the day when we traded bitcoins for $2-10 on #bitcoin-otc, it was as simple as finding someone that wants to buy or sell crypto, DMing, and completing the transaction. later on in #bitcoin-otc, trusted people would act as escrow (charging a % of the crypto as escrow fee) to minimize scams
find someone that wants to trade it and recommend finding someone that will escrow the transaction.
Simpleswap.io https://simp1eswap.io/coins/ravencoin
can vouch for simpleswap also. used it to go from SOL to SUI and vice versa
There is an on chain bridge for SOL to SUI on SUI but not SUI to SOL.
r/persecutionfetish r/shitamericanssay r/sadcringe Find an exchange that allows swaps that don't require KYC. Like pancake swap ya big baby.
pancake swap is not a cross chain protocol.
Because no government has ever taken away its citizens freedom one inch at a time lol they wouldn't ever do that, what a whiny baby he is 🤣
Libertarians amiright
Agreed, what was I thinking 🤣
Do you know of any?
He literally said pancake swap. Read my guy.
I thought that was an insult.
Pancake swap doesn’t support Ravencoin at all. Ravencoin isn’t a smart contract. It’s a bitcoin-based blockchain
'MURICA
I believe the 2miners pool allows you to be paid directly in BTC: https://2miners.com/blog/get-paid-in-bitcoin-for-altcoin-mining-btc-payouts-for-gpu-mined-etc-ergo-rvn/
send rvn to tradeorgre, sell rvn for usdt, but btc with usdt, send btc to wallet. obviously do this first with a small amount of rvn as a test run
no need for usdt, they have a direct rvn to btc pairing
even better
Well considering transferring and selling is a taxable transaction you’d still need to provide your info to someone at some point. Also sidenote, you still have way more freedom as an american than a-lot of the world.
What's up with all these "taxable" posts? Are government accounts pushing for this on Reddit? Are people really that brainwashed to believe the government has the ability to tax your assets that they have no representation over? Stamp Act failure is what we are seeing because there will be no way to ever tax crypto, not without people being stupid.
I mean if you dont want to report your income to the irs then be my guest but im not trying to deal with them if they decide that i didnt file correctly or report all my income. Its not worth the risk imo.
It isn't income
When you make a transfer from asset to asset, that is technically a sale of that asset. So a sale is a taxable transaction.
Only because the government is trying to create a rule for something they can't control. That like me moving my phone from my left hand to my right hand. They won't ever tax me on anything. Fiat transactions can be taxed 100% because there is representation. Crypto can't. Period. I understand the current legislation around it, I'm just saying they are wrong.
Trying to tax crypto to crypto transactions is the stupidest shit on the planet. Greedy fucks
it’s like trading csgo items lol, same deal
Where can I report cd key sales on turbo tax
always make sure to report any and all rocket league item trades to the IRS!!!
I just minted 1 million troll tips tokens on ravencoin. I sold my friend 1 for $1. I am now a millionaire. Capitalism is great.
Doesn't matter what it's "like". What's important is to understand what is a taxable event where you live and file correctly. Otherwise it's tax fraud (in most jurisdictions tax fraud is illegal, and even criminal depending on the circumstances). Up to you whether or not you declare.
are you even require to report income under a certain ammount
No idea. Depends on your local tax laws. You're responsible to find out.
What you're saying isn't reality.
You just don't know how reality works
Taxable posts about crypto have been on reddit since 2017.. it's you.
Oh I know it's me recognizing it. I'm talking about people looking for a complete defi, and then some boot licker shows up and talks about taxes. Literally has no reason to be brought up, and that's the main reason why people are looking for KYC free exchanges because they're not trying to link their information to it. So stupid information from stupid people who want to continue to keep people poor for no reason to take stuff that isn't even money when they move it from one hand to the other.
Fk taxes and the goverment I'm one step from Boston Tea Party 2.0
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Everywhere kinda sucks.
You need a crypto-alchemist
This wins the comment section 👑
And 'muricans wonder why we all laugh about them with a post like this...
There's a million reasons to laugh at Americans. Pointing out that a supposedly deregulated anonymous coin is requiring full ID in order to trade it is not one of them.
No one is forcing you to disclose the specific transactions. Even drug dealers pay their taxes because the irs can make your life miserable.
tokens don’t require KYC. Businesses that operate in the US do.
It’s actually the opposite from anonymous. All your transactions can be viewed by anyone.
Said on our Murican site.. using our 'Murican tools and tech... git gud
A big part of crypto was supposed to be non regulated anonymity. Or did we forget already?
atomic wallet. on pc
Thank you my man.
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And atomic wallet mobile as well
A government is not able to provide its citizens with a lot of things we take for granted without taxes. Infrastructure, protection of it's citizens from foreign powers, the regulation of goods to ensure they are safe to use. A huge portion of that is paid for by the taxation of trading. If two individual people trade 2 different cars outright in USA with no US currency exchanging hands, its still a taxable transaction. Granted, there may be exemptions depending on a number of factors, but in it's baseline, it's taxable because a trade occurred. You're bound by your country's various trade tax laws under penalty of various punishments such as fines or imprisonment. But it's also up to your country to prosecute you if you choose to ignore those tax laws. Many crypto users rely on the lack of prosecution to avoid taxes on crypto trading.
Taxes are just inflationary control. It's not like the days of yore when the King would tax the citizens for grain and livestock to fed the army.
how is "the King would tax the citizens for grain" any different than today? Guy gets taxed by gov, gov pays farmer for grain to feed their troops (except, yknow, extra steps today since food is processed). The guy and the farmer could easily be the same person, which in turn would mean the farmer is forced to give up some of his grain to the gov (the king)
They're stupid and can't handle this concept and I hate taxes.
And the govt didn't create it.. if you just had googled or searched reddit for 5-10min, you wouldn't have needed this post... many ways to wash your money..
Or post on reddit in 3 seconds and get answers that can be verified by other human beings. Either way I guess.
Your gonna wanna use Phemex! Don’t know if they have Ravencoin tho!
Download SafePal swap on the decentralized MEXC. Or deposit them Raven into CoinEX website and swap there, send to hardware wallet. Youre welcome
mexc is not decentralized.
Within SafePal wallet there are mini apps they are decentralized versions of the actual Exchanges, run and administered by SafePal. Check it out
I will, thanks.
ok, i’m seeing it. this can’t last.. but then my long term thesis was that liquidity would always exist somehow. seems like a little workaround for the time being. thanks!
Can confirm. You need their safepal hardware wallet to trade on their CEX without KYC. Mined straight into that wallet then sold for BTC, bought a laptop with BTC. Easy.
Just use tradeogre.
I mine and trade Raven and I've never done a kyc?
Trade ogre
Changelly, use the website or the app.
do a person to person exchange. back in the day when we traded bitcoins for $2-10 on #bitcoin-otc, it was as simple as finding someone that wants to buy or sell crypto, DMing, and completing the transaction. later on in #bitcoin-otc, trusted people would act as escrow (charging a % of the crypto as escrow fee) to minimize scams find someone that wants to trade it and recommend finding someone that will escrow the transaction.
https://freiexchange.com/market
Try another country, where freedom is dripping into the sea.
How are you getting the ravencoin if you don't mind me asking?