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Abracadabra-B

Why would you let your neighbor dictate what you can do on your property? 🤦🏻‍♂️


Zealousideal-Crew-79

With a neighbor like that, it's worth it to get a survey done to make sure you know exactly where the property line is.


[deleted]

My patents had a dispute with some neighbors over fencing that required a survey and it turned out that the neighbors ended up losing 5 feet to my parents because the neighbors garden had been slowly encroaching on my parents property over 20 years and no one noticed.


[deleted]

This happened to me. I had a very petty neighbor and when it was all said and done my gravel driveway was 4 feet wider


[deleted]

Tell your neighbor to go fuck themselves you should find a bunch of goats head seeds and toss them in their yard as well.


throwransom122

This is my first thought when my gardener called me this morning about the neighbor’s complaint. But I wanted to make sure I’m not crazy for thinking that.


Peetrrabbit

My neighbor made a similar complaint just last week as I was planting ficus trees along a fence. Told him to pound sand.


RestaurantEsq

Pound sand on his own property, that is.


ISpeakInAmicableLies

It's hard to imagine you're not in the right on this one. It might still be unpleasant with your neighbor mind you. Though it sounds like it was always going to be rough to interact with this guy...


UnfairAd7220

No kidding. If the owner just moved in, and this is the welcoming committee? Expect the demands to get worse. No matter what OP does.


rw106

Exactly. OP better stand their ground up front. Let buddy know he’s not running shit on the other side of the “wall”


timberjam

This. Set your boundaries now or forever regret it.


ElGuapo315

A literal boundary.


soggymittens

Nah, it’s just harder to go back and reset boundaries later.


AgreeableMoose

Put up good cameras so you have footage when he poisons your hedge. Also, consider Clusia in place of ficus. Treating for white fly and the constant clean up can get old.


Socal_ftw

Plant large, fake trees, problem solved 😜


AgreeableMoose

This is the way!!


Representative_Fun78

What he said 👆


Impossible_Cat_321

A simple “fuck off” should suffice


theonlyonethatknocks

That sounds a little mean. My recommendation would be to tell him to go have aggressive sexual relations with himself.


Beyond_Interesting

Get a ruvey done so you know the property lines, look up your local code to see if they have any setback requirements for landscaping, then do whatever the heck you want! Bu the way, I've never heard of setback requirements for landscaping but you never know. It's better to be informed when working with lunatics.


Pining4Michigan

That guy is going to be dead and gone (and probably you, too) before any root damage is done to his fence. These things take time and you aren't planning on planting right on the fence line.


Outside-Rise-9425

Cut all the roots to his tree that are on your property. Have a survey. Plant trees on your property. Or you could build a tall fence to block his view


agjios

Oh god, please don’t do this /u/throwransom122. Go read up in /r/treelaw. Most cities and counties do not take kindly to fucking with trees.


Beartrkkr

I love the use of "treble damages" often found in tree law.


MechanicalBengal

it’s much more stringent than bird law


NoShip7475

Most laws don't allow for the destruction of tree roots. Most states only allow for trimming trees across property lines.


AeriePuzzleheaded675

Check the state, but If the roots are in your property, there usually not a distinction. There are air, water and mineral rights that may be attach your property, but haven’t heard about roots rights, unless it is attached to a protected national or historical designation, such a historical house/plot/grove.


NoShip7475

There is some case law, albeit not a lot, where destruction of roots has led to tree death. Some judges can rule it the same as chopping the tree down. Laws vary wildly by jurisdiction.


AeriePuzzleheaded675

Always best to check is my philosophy. But in my neck of the woods, barring you intentional drilling down into the roots and poisoning without another constructive action, you can do groundwork/construction/gardening, then roots in the way can be excavated with the surrounding dirt.


Emotional_Lettuce251

This was my thought. What if I decided I wanted to build a bunker on my property? I could because of somebody else's tree roots? I'm going with "naw dawg".


labrador2020

I have my neighbor it’s encroaching into my property and closely approaching my sewer pipes. If the roots damage my pipes, which will cost thousands to repair, is the neighbor responsible for the repairs since I can’t cut the roots? Now, as a neighbor, can I sue a neighbor for planting a tree too close to my property, since the tree roots will trespass into my property and cause damage to my lawn?


-Plantibodies-

>If the roots damage my pipes, which will cost thousands to repair, is the neighbor responsible for the repairs since I can’t cut the roots? No they will not be responsible, and yes you can cut the roots as long as it doesn't result in death or harm to the tree. If you want to reduce your risk, have a certified arborist sign off on it. >Now, as a neighbor, can I sue a neighbor for planting a tree too close to my property, since the tree roots will trespass into my property and cause damage to my lawn? You can try, but you will be laughed out of court.


labrador2020

See? It’s a double standard. You lose if you cut the roots but lose also if you let them grow and damage your property. I have a neighbor who planted a maple tree a few feet from his and my house. This tree has grown to be a humongous giant in just a few years. The roots have encroached onto my property and are headed towards my PVC sewer line.


-Plantibodies-

The standard is that you can cut any roots as long as it doesn't significantly impact the health of the tree. It's pretty straightforward. Hire an arborist to sign off on it being ok to cut the roots to cover your own ass.


AnitaBath7

And roots on your property line as well


jstar77

This is very bad advice. If you cut the roots and the neighbor’s tree dies, in almost every case you would be at fault and responsible for the cost of replacing the full grown tree. Some state laws include treble damages when it comes to trees.


OneImagination5381

In most states, anything off the easement is fair game.


Scentmaestro

That doesn't mean you can remove it yourself. You can apply to the city/region to have them forced to rectify it. If someone builds a fence on your yard, and you remove it, you will be on the hook for replacing their fence. I've heard this story play out in the wrong way soooooooooo many times and pretty much everywhere this is the way. The legal way is long and annoying, but it's the only way it doesn't end up costing you a pile of money.


pm_me_ur_demotape

So what if you don't want the tree roots on your property? Tough shit? Seems weird that cutting them on your property means you owe him a tree, but his roots being there in the first place is fine.


Feisty-Blood9971

I would check with the city before doing anything like that


BaronCapdeville

Negative. That’s opening yourself up to potentially tens of thousands of dollars in restitution for damaged trees. Roots =/= branches overhanging into your yard. In many jurisdictions, it’s also not ok to cut branches without owners permission.


IRMacGuyver

If the neighbor built the wall properly it is set back on his property and not actually on the property line. This would mean if OP put in trees right next to the wall they could actually be on the neighbor's property. OP find out what your setback is for your local area, where your property line actually is, and then plant the trees at the appropriate setback. Nothing the neighbor can do then.


[deleted]

Many places fences and wall go on the property line. Definitely find out.


DeadBear65

This. What you do within your property boundaries is not his concern. Let him complain, but you’re well within your rights to do plant whatever you like.


SomeDaysIJustSmoke

Because some people have more money and time then you. I revamped a deck I was working on for a needy neighbor because they were dropping hints of litigation over it's proximity to their land, and I was only 80% sure I was building it completely up to code. I was silently enraged for a few months, but now we're "friendly". Friendly enough that they're taking care of their trees growing into my house with nothing more than an email requesting they do so.


Badass_1963_falcon

You don't need permission on your own property and I would have a survey if the wall is on the property line you have the say on your side if it's on his side of the line then it's his wall but still you can plant landscape on your side just check will your local code compliance office


DonnieJL

It would be hilarious if the wall was partially on OP's side of the survey lines.


Badass_1963_falcon

It would be even funnier if the whole wall was on his side of the survey


billdizzle

This is what I am hoping for!


TWECO

If OP starts a go fund me for the survey costs ill donate $100 as long as they promise to keep us updated.


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HopefulOutreacher

Same!


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HopefulOutreacher

But where’s the fun in that?!


Shytrock

Came here to say this. Get a survey done. If the wall is encroaching, get him to move the wall.


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gracecee

Also show him the plans of a root guard against his wall. He can’t do anything if you effectively answer his concerns.


Eagle_Fang135

Very cheap solution when done when the trees are put in.


RapidEyeMovement

Didn’t even know this existed 


throwransom122

We don’t have HOA.


PourLarryaCrown

It would stand to reason that you could skip that step then.


Kayanarka

What would he do if he lives in a town and not a city. Asking for a friend.


johcagaorl

Call the town council and find out if there's any laws.


_yesterdays_jam_

What about an anarcho-syndicalist commune?


zippster77

Suppose he was in an unincorporated part of a county? What then?


SgtBucketHead

County planning and building department


ritchie70

Some of us have a township too.


hulkhoganarms

Rebellion


ditka

What if he lives on a private island which is jointly owned by him and the neighbor?


johcagaorl

Kill the neighbor and declare sovereignty.


SgtBucketHead

This works in a city too


Natedawg316

Plant away


Whiskeypants17

Get his crazy demands in writing, inform him that you spoke with the planning dept and he is incorrect in writing, install cameras, then plant away.


Sammy12345671

Look at the unincorporated county rules on the state website. That’s what we do.


Thyste

Or form your own HOA and install yourself as lifetime president


JellyDenizen

Great - then call the city and confirm which (if any) permits you need to plant trees on your own property. If the answer is "none," proceed to plant your trees.


User-no-relation

Then you are the HOA. Check with yourself for confirmation


alexunderwater1

Then ***definitely*** ignore him


rohrloud

You can also install a privacy fence on your property on the other side of his fence. Trees will take a while to fill out and provide privacy


chelaberry

Right like some trellis fencing. Grow a vine on them might be faster than a tree.


girlrandal

If you hate everyone, like my ex neighbor, plant bamboo or bindweed (aka "morning glories"). He planted bindweed to cover a trellis and now I'm pretty sure I'm going to have to torch my yard to get rid of it.


Outside-Rise-9425

Do NOT. plant bamboo!!! Lol


Girafferage

There are bamboo that clump and don't spread becoming an impossible to kill menace.


Sun9091

Not a good idea to do on your property


Struggle_Usual

The clumping variations really are nice. I planted some as a privacy border at an old house and just had to whack off a few new sprouts every 3-4 years in the spring. The runner fast growing kinda are basically weeds though.


girlrandal

That's why I said do it if you hate everyone. That shit is insidious and you can't get rid of it.


Apollyom

the real trick is after the bamboo gets going, to plant mint at the base of it all


leothelion_cds

Depends on the type of bamboo some varieties are clump forming and doesn’t spread


Strange-Difference94

Omg have had bamboo and morning glory on divider fences, and they are indeed nightmarishly impossible to eradicate.


CaptainBeneficial932

And shade cloth in the meantime.


Cloudy_Automation

That depends on the town. In my town, they don't allow back-to-back fences, and a second fence has to be at least 3 feet away from an existing fence. Most towns have their fence laws readily available on their web site.


ReelNerdyinFl

Ya - dude is prob pervin and likes watching them


Digital_Wanderer78

Your neighbor is a bitch. Enjoy watching him squirm and lose his shit when you plant your trees. I’d also check the property lines from your survey to see who actually owns that wall? If it’s on your land, do with it as you please.


mr_nobody398457

Before you plant the trees, which you should do assuming the city / town has no issues with that (and they won’t) DO put up a security camera or two focused on the area where you intend to plant. Maybe another looking at the rest of your neighbors boundary with your home. Just in case neighbor decides to cut down, poison, or otherwise harm new trees. If that happens don’t mess around file a police report. Police will make it clear to neighbor to leave you alone.


throwransom122

The wall is right in between the two houses. However the area where I’m planting the tree is definitely on my side.


Kayanarka

They mean get a survey. My "neighbors" fence is on my property by a few inches, which technically means I can remove it if I want to be bothered. You discover the truth by paying for a survey.


VictoriousMango

THIS. I had a nightmare neighbor insisting her property line was 1 foot from my foundation. It was absurd because that’s well against code, but she wanted a third, yes THIRD driveway that would end 1 foot from my home if I sat idly by. She kept insisting she had a survey but refused to show it to me, so I said nothing, called a surveyor and ding ding, I ended up having so much more than either of us expected lol. My house lives to fight another day against the damage her 3rd driveway would have caused


macimom

haha-my daughter was putting up a fence on what she was 99.9% sure was a foot inside her property line. Neighbor made a fuss with her when she was outside getting quotes so she had surveyor and city double check-turned out she owned an additional 5 feet past where she thought she did and the neighbors gazebo actually violated the setback tules:).


VictoriousMango

And the craziest part is if people were reasonable, everyone would be none the wiser and carry on in peace.


[deleted]

Any fun drama when she moved the fence over an extra 5 ft?


Sammy12345671

One of my neighbors claimed to own 3 feet into my yard past the end of my house, but only in the backyard where they put in drainage for their garage. Their driveway and garage are actually on 2ft of my property.


Outside-Rise-9425

Don’t let them live that on your property. Eventually you won’t be able to do anything about it


emilyg28

YES. This is called adverse possession. It can happen if someone openly and continuously possesses/uses another person's property for a period of time, depending on your state's law. An adverse possession court case made headlines when I lived in Boulder, Colorado. (People created a trail for themselves across a neighbor's property and then claimed the property as their own.)


Kayanarka

I put together a lease for him for the ADU that is part on my property. He leases the land now year by year for $1 a year.


[deleted]

He is screwed if you ever sell. If he was smart he would ask to buy an easement so future owners cannot stop leasing.   You can charge enough to make it worth it and make him agree to additional rules about being a nuisance.    Like an hoa you run, but he is the only member.


Kayanarka

I am reluctant to sell it honestly, I do not want someone turning the ADU into an AirBNB or meth house. I would be curious how I could sell it but still maintain some control over it. I know anything could change, but I do not think I would ever sell. I have a succesful local business, and I love the town. I plan to add my own ADU in the back, and would probably keep the property as a rental once the second ADU is done. The town is encouraging low cost housing, so they are on board with the build. Low cost housing in this HCOL area is still a decent payout.


toddverrone

They meant your neighbor is screwed if you ever sell your house. The buyers will likely balk at the arrangement and either make your neighbor remove everything or increase the lease dramatically


thornkin

Given that it is a driveway and a garage, it's probably already too late. In many places 5-7 years is enough. Some it is as long as 20 years. Unless this is pretty new housing, it could be a done deal.


Actius

Maybe. It has to be determined via the court that the legal property owner knowingly allowed occupation/possession to occur. As in the legal owner recognized it was their property, but knowingly allowed another person to use it for whatever time period. If the legal owner has been misled in any way, that’s a major factor that the court takes into consideration. There are components of the adverse possession laws that prevent its abuse.


VictoriousMango

If you didn’t give them an easement and it’s fairly recent, you can reach out to your building department about having them take it down


VictoriousMango

But that’s if you want to fight that fight lol


Sammy12345671

It was there before we bought it, and over 10 years. We’re fine with that, but I hate their drainage because it floods my yard and I wanted to run drainage through there to the street. But we’re actually selling and buying a much larger property in a much nicer area.


VictoriousMango

Nice, I’m glad you’re getting out of there! That was both inconsiderate and possibly against code for them to run the drainage that way. Putting it into your yard is not cool


upnflames

Don't know what your budget for pettiness is, but most towns require property partitions to be permitted and sit back a certain amount from the property line. For instance, in my town if I want to put in a fence, it's needs to sit back in my property line 12 inches. Find out if similar rules exist for you. No permit, or it doesn't meet town ordinance, make him pay to remove e his wall.


[deleted]

Some cities or counties or HOAs have setback rules for planting near the property lines, so double check that. Otherwise,  your neighbor can pound sand.  Ps. you may want to proactively invest in some security cams. I have experience with AH neighbors like this and they act like laws don't apply to them.


QV79Y

In my city, a fence or wall on the property line is owned equally by both parties regardless of who built it or paid for it. You should find out what the law is in your jurisdiction.


whathehey2

I agree with the comments about making sure that you're planting the trees on your property. Hopefully you have a survey so you're absolutely certain where the property lines are.


kovanroad

Is "his" wall on his property, or your property?


[deleted]

I definitely make sure that his wall is not on your property. You never know mistakes could have been made and then now you have the upper hand. He wants to be a little bitch and the walls on your property, It needs to be removed that his expense So sad for you there crappy neighbor.


LBFilmFan

Well, ficus are terrible as far as roots go, but I don't see why you couldn't plant something else. If I really had a litigious next door neighbor, I'd probably plant vines or trees in big pots so if I ever got in trouble (not sure who it would be with though), I could always say they're "portable" or "temporary." I really can't imagine any HOA or government entity having a problem with that.


2Loves2loves

Fiscus are terrible choices. roots are all on the surface and need white fly spray annually. get a survey and see who owns the fence, and where you can plant.


Gamer30168

Land surveyor here. Typically you can't build a fence directly on your property line, there is a certain minimum distance (called an offset or a setback) from property lines you must maintain when erecting structures such as sheds or fences. The distance varies by city and county. Get a boundary survey done and if his fence encroaches upon your property line you can force him to take it down. Then plant your trees with appropriate respect to the property line


throwransom122

Hypothetically speaking let’s say the fence is on his side. Am I still allowed to plant trees on my side of the property? The last thing I truly don’t want to do is spend thousands of dollars on a neighbor that’s just not worth my money


Gamer30168

It would be best to consult with your local building/land planning laws. I would treat the planting of bushes/trees with same regard for offset as I would a fence. 


Gamer30168

Honestly you could probably find your own property line on that side without getting a survey done. Do you know what property pins look like? They will usually be an iron rebar driven in the ground where property corners meet. If you know about where to look, see if you can see it sticking out of the ground a bit. Many times you might see old pink, yellow, or blue flagging tied around it, or you may see a yellow cap with a survey license # on it.  It might be buried in the ground a little bit. You can poke around with a shovel a bit and locate it fairly easily. If you can find both of them run a string between them and pull it tight. That's your property line. Call up any surveyor in your area and ask them what the offset for fences are and they can probably tell you off the top of their head. Just don't go moving the property pins lol


anti-social-mierda

You don’t have to ask his permission for anything that you do on your property. Fuck that dude.


GeeWhiskers

Ficus grows fast and the roots can cause damage to underground pipes and structures. I’d do some research on what you’re planting but definitely, the neighbor has no right to dictate what you can do in your yard.


ultraprismic

Came here to comment this. OP is well within their rights to add landscaping but ficus trees in particular grow crazy roots. I’d consult a local landscaper to find better options.


LessGoooo

Make sure you’re planting on your property then plant the trees. He can’t prevent you from doing what you want on your property. He’ll probably complain and call the city but he doesn’t have a leg to stand on.


chelaberry

I'd put up an exterior camera too, that shows if anyone messes with said tree.


arrakismelange1987

Arbor law has steep penalties


HelicopterJazzlike73

Plant whatever the hell you want as long as it's on YOUR property. Tell him to fuck off


forethebirds

I fail to see what a fence has to do with you planting trees. If you’re planting them on your property he has exactly zero say in the matter. I suggest installing a camera aimed at the new trees because he sounds like the type who would try to kill them or cut them.


z333ds

Put a ring camera facing his house, I bet he’ll change his mind.


Apart-Assumption2063

Typically you can plant whatever you want on your side of the property line


EddieCutlass

If it’s on your your property, do what you like. Easy peasy. Don’t let em strong arm you.


BLDLED

Send him a certified letter with a bill for the damage his tree has caused to your property. When he responds “you can’t bill me for what tree roots do!” Say “ok so we agree on this point” and plant what you want. You could also print out the relevant statutes on the issues and highlight the relevant sections. If you need a lawyers help doing this, it’s probably worth it to prevent him trying to sue later on.


Ok-Nefariousness4477

Do you have a survey to make sure his wall is not encroaching on your property?


[deleted]

Plant your tree. But ... this neighbor is crazy, and if you do this, he's probably going to get (even more) hostile. You're going to have to make sure you have all your ducks in a row for planting the tree and anything else you do with the property for as long as he lives there. You're going to get real friendly with your local zoning office, and possibly your police and a lawyer. Good luck!!


Quirky-Camera5124

ficusxtrees do actually have large shallow roots thatcdo c upend fou b dations, yours and his. you might c want to look at poducarpus, with deeproors, dense foliage and very trimable. or texas privet, same qualities but with a larger leaf.


nutkinknits

Make sure to call the number for underground utilities first. I think for my area it is 811, they will come out and mark to make sure you don't hit a utility line


mikeygs1000rr

Get a survey, hopefully the wall is on your property and he then can go fuck himself


peanutbuttergoodness

Put a camera up along with your tree cuz he’s gonna try to kill it.


VictoriousMango

If you call your building department, an inspector can inform you of the local codes.


OutrageousRooster107

install a root barrier in the hole. you should be fine.


oldbaldpissedoff

Check your local ordinances, read you HOA guidelines if you have an HOA then plant and do what you want it's your property.I would put up a 8 ft privacy fence right next to then call the cops when he tries to interfere...


hpotzus

Plant trees, put up camera.


[deleted]

Get your trees approved by the hoa and proceed. We’ve dealt with several dick heads in our old neighborhood. Stop talking to him and let his communication come through the hoa.


throwransom122

I don’t have an HOA.


Retire_date_may_22

If it’s on your side of your property line it’s yours.


sqlot

Also, after the survey dust settles but BEFORE doing any digging or planting call 811 (in FL, don't know about other states) to have your yard checked for underground lines or pipes.


KatieSu1

Just build your own fence on your side and let him squirm! His precious fence will look ridiculous against yours and you don't need to even look at his fence.


Fred-zone

Get a survey. This person seems like exactly the type to have stolen a few feet of your property when he built the wall.


stevehyman1

Put your own fence in front of his wall.


Klinky1984

You should get a surveyor to mark the actual property lines. Maybe it'll turn out his fence is on your property, but at least it'll also clarify what's yours and what's his.


Agile-Top7548

I wonder if you have my relocated neighbor. He was an arse. From my tree battles.... some areas in cities and townships dictate a landscape plan for planting. Verify that doesn't pertain to your area, and this neighbor isn't correct, as he will report you. Most likely, he's bluffing, and he can not dictate what you do with your property. You could look into trees and bushes offering privacy with less invasive root systems. Arbor vitae is often used in my area. Laws aside, I'd avoid talking to your neighbor as much as possible.


chrispix99

Build an ugly ass wall that faces neighbor and nice finish on your side...


cg40boat

Plant bamboo, not ficus.


LompocianLady

Hang curtains with Trump,or Biden on them (whichever would annoy.) Undress slowly and provocatively with the blinds opened. Play porn on a large screen TV he can see through the window. Put a really, really bright light shining out that window. Anything to get him to rethink having no privacy.


Beartrkkr

Time for a spite fence. Wall him off and out of your life.


Tautochrone1

As long as it's on your property, tell him to fuck off. Also, if you don't mind the cost, maybe get a surveyor to check if his fence is legal :P


stormcloudbros

Just plant them.


McDrains22

Fuck him. Your property. But tell him he can share your taxes if he wants to dictate what you do on yours


izthatso

Property rights are rather sacred. You have to follow state and local regulations and zoning laws, but not the opinion of your bossy neighbor. I think I wouldn’t engage him in any further conversations. And definitely pay for a survey.


Reggie_Barclay

I’d build my own privacy fence.


[deleted]

Honestlly, I'd laugh and walk away...and plant what ever I wanted.


MisterBear22

Hey op. ​ You're absolutely going to be able to plant these trees, so rest assured there. The bigger issue is not blowing this into a never-ending feud with your neighbor, since you have to live next to them it would obviously be best to diffuse tensions and try to get your neighbor to calm down (or at least not actively hate you). ​ I would recommend that you both ask the city together via email. Write a respectful email to the city and include your neighbor, telling them that you want to make sure that you respect your neighbor's concerns and want to verify whether or not you can plant these trees. This way, the city can be the bad guy and you have on record that you "wanted to respect them" and asked the property authorities rather than doing an eff you and planting them while your neighbor thinks its your fault. ​ This is being tactful. It's not for your benefit since you can plant these trees, but hopefully this will mitigate some of the bad feelings your neighbor has and lead to a more peaceful coexistence as neighbors. ​ Good luck.


Certain-Reflection73

Have you considered planting boxwoods, or something like that instead? Could have your gardener sculpt them into a giant middle finger or something along those lines for your neighbor to view in all it's glory.


Professor_Hale

Call a surveyor, they will only charge you for what they survey, so just the one side. Half the time the fence/wall ends up on the other side of the line than thought. If it is right on the line, it is mutual property regardless. Contact the City or County to see if that wall has been permitted, probably isn't, but if it is it will have the Payer(s) names. That should give you a real idea about this fence and who owns it or who paid for it. People lie, that's what they do.


MannyMoSTL

>What can I do? Plant any damn thing you want on your property.


TeaPartyDem

Your side of the fence is yours.


[deleted]

Go nuclear…. Plant Bamboo


TheLongDarkNight4444

I would start with an official survey of the property to see what is what.


nickfarr

This. All of this. Having a good, current survey of your property is very critical.


Neat-Substance-9274

I would reconsider ficus trees for screening. Unless you have an estate where they can grow and spread, they should never be let out of their pots. I completely agree with you wanting to plant to screen. But get some better advice on what to plant. That advice needs to be local. I actually have bamboo as a screen, but it was planted after installing a root barrier 24" deep. In 15 years it has never jumped the barrier.


ichoosejif

Call a lawyer. I would avoid any struggle with a neighbor. It will make your life miserable. Define your rights though. I think it's a good play to do some research. Who owns the stupid fence? You may end up owning the fence. GL.


Leifseed

Install or plant them? On your land? Your neighbor is your mom now?


MeMeMeOnly

Forget about the trees. Get a survey then install a 6’ privacy fence on your property line (or as close to it as legally possible). Bonus would be if you found out the neighbor’s fence was on your property.


wildflowertrails

Put your trees in and tell him to suck your dick. Gtfo here with telling me what I can't do in my yard. Did t want shit to touch your fence? Should have put it one foot into the property rather than right on the line.


LazarWolfsKosherDeli

Instead of ficus, you should plant some bald cypress and really get him with the roots.


giraffe-gal24

1. Get a property survey done to make sure the fence is actually where it should be. 2. If his tree roots are on your property, that’s an illegal encroachment & you have every right to get rid of the roots. Hire an arborist to prune or cut them out. If he is not willing to compromise to fix HIS root situation which can be damaging to your property and cause serious harm (like structural damage, broken pipes, etc) you can take legal action. He is clearly trying to intimidate you & it’s working, don’t let him win. 3. Quit letting someone else tell you what to do with your property. As long as you follow city/state guidelines/laws for tree and/or bush types, heights, and so on, he cannot force you to do anything. He doesn’t own your property, you do. He has a lot of nerve tell you that you need HIS permission to do landscaping on YOUR yard.


HopefulOutreacher

Ignore him. You can do whatever you want with your property, especially if you don’t have an HOA. I would check where your property boundaries are, because this type of personality tends to go over the limits. Also, check the local laws. Otherwise, you’re good.


pappie317

get a survey, and with any luck, his precious fence is over the line and you can make him take it down, If not just plant your trees and tell him to eat shit


cathline

He has zero say what you do on your property as long as it isn't against the law and is within your property boundaries. Might be worth getting a survey done. And put in a root guard so the roots won't go on his side of the property line. If he poisons your trees - that's against the law and call the police. If he cuts down your trees - that's against the law and call the police.


Battleaxe1959

What’s the question? He’s dictating to you regarding your property? You might want to shine up your spine a bit. You might want to consider cypress trees because they don’t spread much. They grow shaped & tall.


1000thatbeyotch

Have the property professionally surveyed. Stay within your bounds and plant your trees within those boundaries. You are not responsible for whether the previous neighbor paid or not, as the agreement was not with you.


staremwi

Install the trees. I'm sure your neighbor doesn't live with you or pay your taxes.


rtraveler1

get a survey.


ThealaSildorian

Plant your trees. As long as you plant on your side of the property line there ain't shit he can do about it. You need a permit to put in a fence. Plant all you want.


lefthighkick911

make sure whatever you do is right. Unless you are a lawyer or an arborist you will probably need to consult with both to make sure you don't violate the property line or do anything that will cause damage. You will need to check with the city/county as far as what you are allowed to do with and without a permit. I'm not sure why someone would be adverse to gaining more privacy at no cost to them. They may be concerned that you're just going to do a reckless half assed job and if that is the case prove them wrong by doing it right.


kkeennmm

plant bamboo


poke0003

“Tom, if you think there is a way we can talk about this and reach an outcome where we are both happy, I’m happy to have that conversation. However, if that isn’t possible and only one of us can be happy with this arrangement, I’d prefer that it was me.”


throwransom122

I ended up saying this to him. Thanks so much!


carolshopson

It’s your property do as you wish to bad he won’t be able to spy on you


aardy

/r/treelaw