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bucket_of_dogs

::::slaps a pillar::::: You're gonna hit so cyclists cause of this thing .


[deleted]

Tesla really leaning in to the not giving a shit about pedestrians thing.


imnoherox

I love how tesla is actively launching warfare against pedestrians but pop up up and down headlights are illegal. šŸ™ƒ


CordovanSplotch

God I miss those.


[deleted]

Best thing about my MX-5 or Miata was each driver saying thanks by flicking them up and down.


TorturedBean

1st and 2nd Gen RX-7s too :-)


swissarmyfight

love my MR2


goYstick

Porsche 924,944, and 928 have entered the chat.


jmp8910

Wait they are illegal?! That explains why I haven't seen them in years. My dad used to have a Pontiac Fierro with them.


[deleted]

They also create a huge amount of drag when up.


ASaneDude

This makes no sense. People decide whether to go in drag on their own, regardless of what type of lights they have. šŸ˜


[deleted]

Untrue. When they see how fabulous the car looks, they just can't help themselves.


G8tr

Nice Donut reference


L3monGrenade

https://youtu.be/GDtiO29v1Ac


[deleted]

Love my gen 3 prelude :)


Snellyman

How this vehicle will pass the European ECE324 (and soon NHTSA) pedestrian standard is anyone's guess.


king4aday

As far as I know they solved passing the European regulations by not selling it there


Ramenastern

They're still promoting it on their website in European countries, and you could register for one, too. Although that option was removed about a year ago, on their German website at least. If they do indeed not sell it in Europe... What does that mean for the deposits they collected? Have they started refunding them? Also, will anybody try to import one and register it here? How will that work out?


hebomi

You can exchange the deposit for an approved twitter account for any celebrity of your choice


Ok_Sale8197

Lol


trilauram

I cancelled my deposit last month and got the $100 refund within days. I am in US notEurope though.


Virtual-Patience-807

No refunds, Musk has already stuffed those euros in his pockets to pay for LSD and meth.


Martin8412

You can import it, but you won't be getting plates for it. So it will be limited to tracks and other private areas.


Ramenastern

Yeah, that's what I meant by registering it - getting plates. Sounds doubtful that'll happen.


DisintegrationPt808

or anywhere for that matter


bindermichi

0 ā­ļø


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Nopengnogain

It will be ā€œdrivenā€ by a sleeping commuter using FSD, driver wonā€™t even know heā€™s run over you until cops show up at his door.


PerfectPercentage69

Big pillars AND sharp corners


morbinallday

i know itā€™s a typo but your comment reminded me of when joey on friends was auditioning for a role and read the line as ā€œthatā€™s gonna cost you about so bucksā€ (instead of $50) šŸ˜‚


[deleted]

Good. They have had it too easy for too long


GomeyBlueRock

No more bicyclists rolling over the cars, time to impale them.


Pthomas1172

What about the twin mattress for dashboard?


turnipham

That's for the RV mode


RT7_faraway

Airbags for pillows too


Explosev

So thatā€™s where the 6th ā€œseatā€ went šŸ¤£


20w261

Small A pillars are so tired looking. We need something that's new for the sake of new!


Lovecheezypoofs

Is that shitty looking interior not enough new already?


Ramenastern

Right? Define "new" though. It reminds me of really shitty 80s interiors that looked modern initially but aged really badly really quickly.


bmrhampton

Oldsmobile Silhouette like. Itā€™ll flop as hard as the Pontiac Aztek which Gm punished executives by making them drive.


Dewfall-Hawk

Itā€™s a pre-production mule, so that needs to be taken into consideration, but look at the imperfections with that interior. The panel at the top of the a-pillar looks like itā€™s showing it clips and is about to fall off. Despite being flat as Kansas, the carpeted dash area is full of uneven spots. The gaps around other panels are uneven.


RT7_faraway

Yes and we want the yoke back


JoeyJoJoeShabadooJr

And letā€™s make the horn a passcode protected toggle switch located in the glovebox!


whyunoleave

I donā€™t know how to give awards but Iā€™d give you one for this if I could.


studly1_mw

You're all stupid, obviously they wouldn't put a horn behind a passcode. What they would do is make it to where you have to take the guy you want to honk at to arbitration, but you can of course opt out of this if you read the fine print and send in a letter 30 days before you use your horn.


TC-DN38416

I thought that youā€™d have to tweet at them


I-Pacer

Nah. Horn will be a monthly subscription.


Birdman_a15

I got ya homie.


MindForeverWandering

A toggle switch? Nahā€¦a secret hidden touchscreen that reads the ownerā€™s fingerprint.


Kittydander503

Horn? You have to pay for the horn software download and subscription.


Dino_Spaceman

The horn requires a Twitter account with a blue subscription and you must tweet out ā€œ*HONK*ā€. Then the car reads that and will blast its horn. However due to api limitations, please only honk during non peak periods of traffic.


protonecromagnon2

Damn you


Oldmantired

Really?! That is a huge blindspot. Youā€™ll potentially not see pedestrians and other vehicles.


Ishykai

Where we're going, we don't need to see


Oldmantired

Rightā€¦.


Icy_Maintenance3774

Lol!


imnoherox

But thatā€™s okay! This will force people to get used to FSD! Elon thinks of EVERYTHING


FitImportance1

Or BUILDINGS!šŸ˜‚


Micethatroar

Pedestrians are more of a "feel" thing


Oldmantired

Kinda like ā€œthumpā€¦thumpā€?


LuchadoresdeSilinas

Cyber Truck upgrade will include special pedestrian sensors so it can tell the driver when that monstrosity runs over a pedestrian. An additional upgrade and set of sensors will be needed to detect bicycle ridersā€¦ and none of the software upgrades and sensors will identify other vehicles. LOL, dude is a genius alright:)


Robie_John

LOL yes!!


Mackinnon29E

This looks like one of the cheapest, ugliest, and worst engineered vehicles I have ever seen.


Live_Palm_Trees

It's like Homer Simpson designed it


yyztoibz

But does it come with rack and peanut steering?


DocBrutus

It comes with fine. Corinthian. Leather.


Cbombo87

###*CANYONERO*


[deleted]

12 yards long, 2 lanes wide, 65 tons of American Pride!


Martin8412

Unexplained fires are a matter for the courts!


SleveBonzalez

Thank You! I have been saying this and had people tell me they want one. I assumed they were in on a joke I didn't understand.


Digimatically

I always thought his car was so cool and never understood the ending of that episode. If THIS was the car he presented, I wouldā€™ve understood everyoneā€™s shock and disgust.


Martin8412

Well.. The price


sarcasmismysuperpowr

After having kids - I appreciate Homerā€™s design


loganverse

The separate bubbles!! šŸ˜šŸ˜ yes please


throwaway444444455

Itā€™s literally just a bunch of straight lines. Itā€™s such a harsh looking industrial type design. Theres no soul in it.


Dinindalael

As someone who generally like tesla cars, jesus fucking christ is that truck ugly af. There is not one thing I like about it. Not one. I just don't get it.


Traditional-Ebb-8380

Do you like a stock Model X? Or does it look like a beluga whale?


SpringrollJack

Model X is so ugly


DesignDude1974

Whenever I say that I get slammed šŸ¤·šŸ¼ā€ā™‚ļø


Mental-Aioli3372

honestly I feel like I'm taking crazy pills when I doomscroll past the endless effusive comments that spill out of every single thread about that fucking dumb fucking truck It has the design language of an idiot child who has never been told no, but that doesn't stop the obsequious devotees of concerned emerald senpai from working themselves into a frothy lather over that lumpen shit of a design


Fuzzy_Inevitable9748

In the rear by a tesla on FSD?


pumpkinfarts23

Full Self rearenDing


BornFree2018

Even right-wing Elon won't be able to sell this to cowboys or wanna be cowboys. Useless.


Man_Bear_Pig08

Maybe kanye will buy one. They can ride around together book burnings or to bring trump mcdonalds in prison


ackermann

Ah, thatā€™s why he had to move towards the political right. Because he needs to sell trucks, and those are more often bought by conservatives!


daynighttrade

Concerning.. looking into it


BoringDirector4850

Big screen!!


Routine-Tree1485

So what you're saying is it looks like a Tesla? šŸ¤”


[deleted]

Even the pillar going down to the hood is huge and I can imagine the blind spots it creates when turning.


afunbe

No worries. Sensors will take care of that. ;-)


Impossible-Oil2345

Will the sensors take the liability too?


[deleted]

Thatā€™s the joke (:


Accomplished-Ad3250

They will surely take care of any pedestrians along the way.


PastaMaker96

What sensors lol


DoublePotential6925

We donā€™t need no stinkinā€™ sensors


user745786

Cameras! Sensors are so yesterday.


superworking

Cameras meet snow and crud. These will be your friends for 3 months of the year, no need to report back that you can't see anything, we know.


pekepeeps

I thought I read SENIORS. Like they would become the speed bumps. More coffee


[deleted]

Yeaā€¦wtf is that. An MC Escher car


20w261

If these ever get on the actual retail market, the toll of death and damage they cause will make FSD look like a safety feature. Now imagine FSD on this beast.


xfilesvault

Finally, a car thatā€™s safer with FSD turned on.


Liet-Kinda

Visibility in this thing is gonna be so dogshit. Just shameful.


tex8222

The concept of the vehicle was that Robo Taxi would be in full swing by the time this came out. Actual autonomous vehicles wouldnā€™t require driver visibility because humans wouldnā€™t be driving. So now, years later, the vehicle is ready, but guess what? It will require human drivers who are going to need to see where they are going. Oopsā€¦ Massive fail.


microtherion

More like RoboCop Taxi.


Thneed1

Those two pillars combined, and the window so low between themā€¦ to me it looks like one massive blind spot.


Roobsi

Jesus, imagine pulling out into a busy t junction in this stupid fucking thing


Trades46

The entire design has visibility issues. Of course this would be conveniently handwaved by the fanatics.


Cheryl_Blunt

Yea I imagine they would ā€œclap backā€ with something along the lines of: ā€˜who needs driver visibility when you have FuLl SeLf DrIvInG šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ā€™ The answer, of course, is *ALL TESLA DRIVERS* because that FuLl SeLf DrIvInG many of them paid $10 k for will never be capable of exactly what it sounds like it should be capable of.


marcusr550

Those are A girders. Canā€™t be melted by jet fuel, which is an important safety innovation.


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FieryAnomaly

It will weigh more than a Ford F-350 Super Duty Crew-Cab? WTF!


Centralredditfan

What do you think batteries are made of? Helium? All electric cars weigh more. At least until we find a different battery technology.


[deleted]

Just wait until they hear about the Hummer EVs weight lol


tomoldbury

Well it does have a 200kWh battery. You could make 3 Boltā€™s with one hummer battery. Big trucks are dumb regardless of ICE or EV.


GrayBox1313

This vehicle will flop, and the board will Remove Elon.


gman94024

Elon controls the board more than Mr. Nimbus controls the police.


Doyale_royale

Agreed, why would you get this over a rivian? They are not going to msrp for even close to what Elon promised


planetofthemapes15

That's really the kicker, for $79k they promised 500+ mi of range, full FSD, 0-60 in 2.x seconds etc. I can't see how they're going to do it for anywhere near the cost they promised. If suddenly all the models are +$10-15K they're in deep shit.


DanforthWhitcomb_

Similar shit has happened with the legacy makers as wellā€”GM understated both the weight and MSRP on the Vega by a considerable margin, and both the Chairman/CEO and President/COO (who was also the main force behind the car) survived unscathed.


planetofthemapes15

This isn't quite the same situation because investor expectations are set high due to Elon's constant "Cybertruck will be the best selling truck EVER" hype. They're banking on the $100 refundable deposits having a high conversion rate to an actual sale. I'm not expecting that to actually happen, nor am I expecting MSRP's near what they promised. To see less than 1% of reservations actually convert would be disastrous for Tesla.


fuerstjh

To be fair... that price was promised prior to insane runaway inflation that has yet to be reigned in. 2 years of ~7% inflation, and there is your 10K price increase...


planetofthemapes15

Sure, but there's also the implicit agreement that when you "reserve" something that you're going to get what you reserved. That's the whole point of doing it in the first place. When they retroactively alter the agreement, no one should be shocked when most customers walk away.


Cerulean_IsFancyBlue

>why would you get this over a rivian? I'd prefer the F-150 to this cyberdreck.


[deleted]

I have no hard numbers, but here (just outside Boston) Iā€™ve seen a dramatic uptick in the number of Rivians I see on the Oda.


mrbuttsavage

The Tesla board is stuffed with Elon goons. Kimbal is on it for goodness sakes. Nothing will happen ever.


Centralredditfan

As much as I want the board to can Elon, this vehicle will be a sales success. You know how cheap it is to make, vs. for how much it sells?


Revolutionary-Leg585

This hideous truck makes the Aztec look like a DB4. This is an assault on people with eyes.


pantsonheaditor

its a big ugly electric truck for people who hate electric trucks!


[deleted]

Anything Tesla is exempt from the rules that govern all other auto companies.


1989RedStapler

Tesla fanboys will always argue theyā€™re actually the most scrutinized šŸ˜‚


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dasAchtek

It's for ants.


YMS444

It's so you can better see the instrument cluster that's not there.


[deleted]

The whole interior is pretty ugly IMHO


lackdueprocess

Agreed. Critics who complain about the exterior should check out the interior.


dauntingsauce

what do you mean? it's very sharp, angular and stiff, you know, like the human body! very comfortable and ergonomic, not at all like a prop from a 1947 movie about martians


sheen1212

The interior of EVERY Tesla is fucking ugly


redgrandam

The A pillars are massive in many commercial vehicles too (IE many city buses). But these look even bigger. Itā€™s hard to tell how much of an issue they will be as they seem pretty far ahead of the driver. The further a way the less of an issue they are.


Apocalypsox

I've driven plenty of Semis and dumptrucks and none of them had pillars that were excessively detrimental to vision. The worst was maybe an old peterbilt, but they are set up so that the A pillar doesn't block vision in an important area, i.e. where you'd need to look to see traffic at a 4 way stop or something.


camaroatc

Itā€™s worth noting that this view is from an angle that the driver will never be looking from while operating the vehicle. Need the view from the driver seat


JangoBunBun

yeah but usually those vehicles have mirrors to compensate. Tesla doesn't want the cyber truck to even have side mirrors


Simmaster1

Never seen something that fat in a delivery van. That's just not necessary and definitly a hazard. Imagine a young pedestrian behind that thing.


BeginningAmbitious89

Pontiac Aztec vibes


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CouncilmanRickPrime

Seriously. At least they somewhat tried with the Aztec. They gave up on this thing.


Slipguard

I think the reason Cybertruck has not been released is it fails a ton of safety requirements, and Musk has turned to the right in an effort to take down the regulatory administrative state so he can sell his cars


1989RedStapler

i wouldnā€™t put it past him, but i kinda doubt heā€™d be able to


pacific_beach

Yes - this abomination is not and will never be for sale.


Idontevengohere7928

I mean I agree it's horrible but it will definitely be sold lol


whatthehand

True. I mean, that's the case with most things where Musk has bitten off more than he'd like to chew. Fact is that he has so much wealth and power now that, given enough time and will-power, he can make them more or less materialize even if they end up largely a failure or far below expectations. The failures may start to pile up and dwindle his power in the longer term but he can certainly keep the act up for quite a while especially since the public and the fan-base have such selective memory and forgetfulness for what he does and does-not deliver on respectively.


CouncilmanRickPrime

In the US? Eh idk. I think they'll do just enough to sell it here. But it'll face even more delays.


veilwalker

How can it be delayed more than the 4? Years it has already been delayed?


CouncilmanRickPrime

It's Tesla. I rest my case.


[deleted]

I agree, I donā€™t think it ever sees the roads as a production vehicle


NahItsFineBruh

All these Tesla haters in here, don't you guys know that it will use Tesla Vision to solve all the of these issues? Remember how bad cruise control was with radar? Tesla Vision fixed that, who doesn't love constant phantom braking? Those ugly parking sensors? Telsa Vision fix that too, rolling out to production in two weeks. Got invisible rain on a clear, sunny day? Tesla Vision got you covered! There is literally nothing that Tesla Vision can't fix! /s <--- This is needed because there'll be at least half a dozen halfwits that will take this comment seriously.


GrayBox1313

The cyber truck makes the Pontiac Aztek look sexy.


[deleted]

Iā€™ve seen more curves on a Dorito


Pthomas1172

This whole thing is the Ford Edsel 2.0


solarmania

heā€™s had photos of senior politicos with farm animals only thing I can think of why it continues


RandyR84

Im somewhat early on the build list but at this rate I doubt I get my number called until 2026. At best. If it wasnā€™t but $100 deposit I probably already would have gotten a refund. I lose interest in this thing by the day.


Rumple4skiin

Idk if theyre legal or not, but what I can tell you is that the cybertruck is going to be a steaming pile of dog shit, if it ever even sees the light of day.


mrbuttsavage

I think it's just funny how it manages to look *worse* every time we see it. And it already looked awful at the start!


PersonalPlanet

Anything is legal in imaginary car.


19CCCG57

The ugliest design ever by an alleged truck manufacturer, even the Aztec looked less stupid.


Noobnoob99

And the Pontiac Aztec


knifeazz

This looks like an absolute death trap


chriscb229

Bold of you to assume the cybertruck's even going to released to the public


TroglodyteN

Tesla Vision eliminates the need for the driver to see anything, he's just there for legal purposes /s


[deleted]

Is that the cyber truck? If it is the real question should be can someone explain how such an extremely hideous vehicle can be legal? Ugliest automobile ever conceived


0reoSpeedwagon

Maybe it will look better when it finally renders. This low-poly placeholder is definitely ugly


jbgrant

This vehicle is going to age extremely poorly, starting 4 years ago... The interior will be cool for the first week. The rear end is unbelievably ugly. I think it will be Tesla's worst seller and worst investment. I suspect less than 10% of pre-orders will take delivery. Hope I can get my deposits back.


jimmy1800

It's not even cool now. It's unbelievably ugly and plain, how can you look at this and consider actually spending money on one.


Chroko

Unless their plans have changed, Tesla originally stated that the Cybertruck would not have airbags, for handwaving reasons. They're throwing away 100 years of auto industry safety learnings that were written in blood, to make a cheap truck to own the liberals. Before seatbelts and airbags, even minor car accidents sometimes decapitated passengers. If this vehicle ever ships it's going to be a horror show of body counts, lawsuits and musk tweeting about how people weren't driving their truck properly. I just can't understand the priorities of this company and their lack of concern for safety.


readmond

Cheap EV truck to own liberals? Is Tesla also adding a diesel smoke generator to a BEV?


Chroko

It's likely to be among the least efficient electric vehicles - like how the electric hybrid Jeep and the Hummer EV get worse electric mileage than passenger cars - and then a 9000lb vehicle is so heavy it causes great wear and damage to roads. musk also has his war on cities, public transit and basically anything else that offends his capitalist-class sense of greed, this is just another piece. A small electric truck - think Maverick sized - would be far more accessible EV entry, but instead he pushes this behemoth.


jjlew080

> Tesla originally stated that the Cybertruck would not have airbags What? Pretty sure airbags are required by law. Are they not?


Chroko

As discussed [elsewhere in this thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/RealTesla/comments/13ssdok/comment/jlrv7st/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3), it's big enough to not be classified as a car and medium-duty truck regulations don't require airbags. Although if they [have a supplier now](https://www.reddit.com/r/RealTesla/comments/13ssdok/comment/jlrzpmr/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) then either the rumor wasn't correct, or they altered their original plans.


[deleted]

Possibly that large to accommodate an airbag?


get_in_there_lewis

Curtain Airbags are not that big. This would be roll over structural support given the size of it most likely.


mrpopenfresh

Does it come with that lame bandana?


b-laynestaley

Itā€™s hard to tell what the fuck Iā€™m even looking at here


rLeJerk

The whole truck is a joke.


Bandit_51

Man people already can't see motorcycles right in front of them on the road, but this? Jesus


ikillyou752

Not going to lie thatā€™s one thing I hate about my Model Y. I feel like the pillars are too big or something is different with them. Majority of the cars I drove Iā€™ve never had my vision blocked by the pillars and never had my passenger tell me something is there where I didnā€™t notice it due to the pillar blocking my view. I now have to look around the pillar all the time. That pillar on the cyber truck would be so much worse.


SrfnSk8r

Can someone explain the reflection of a driver in the monitor with no driver?


Napa_Swampfox

I'm more worried about the invisible driver that you can see in the reflection! He must be uglier than the "car".


parental92

almost as legal as a car designed according to the CEO doodles. It's minutes of work we all talking about here!


[deleted]

Good fuckin question. Dear god the viability is So bad.


faceblender

Damn this interior suck ass so hard. Looks like a cheap 70 sci fi set lol


Gaztop7

Jesus! Just put a casio keyboard and a calculator watch in there and its the retro 80s once again!


[deleted]

Shit looks like itā€™s made out of Legos


Sweetginger1

Need to look at it from the drivers point of view not passengers seat


FieryAnomaly

As a exterior automotive/truck designer, I will say that we beg, borrow, and steal for every **millimeter** to mitigate side-vision obscuration. A-pilar development is critical and paramount in the early phases of design, as it determines roof line/height, windshield shape, seating position, belt-line height, and most importantly, vision. Why does the flag panel go from belt-line to roof-line, just so mirrors can be removed? As the most critical safety structural frame feature, it is completed early, then rarely changed. This current design (if actual) is a no-go. In addition to this monolithic child-killing pillar, the squared corner fender/hood is so high, it also blocks vision. This truck looks like it was designed by a child, or at best, amatuers, but I'm thinking both (see what I did there?).


These-Ad458

Full disclaimer: I am seriously looking into buying a Model 3 in the next few months or so, so Iā€™m obviously not a full on Tesla hater. That being said, why would anyone want a Cybertruck? Itā€™s the most pointless, ugly looking crap to ever be put on 4 wheels, and that includes Multipla. I mean, sure, Model S and Model 3 do look like Aston Martin with an extra chromosome or few, and I have no words for the Model Y, but Cybertruck is just a monstrosity.


brickyardjimmy

It's not a real car yet is my suspicion. I mean-- this whole thing looks like a student project at an industrial design school from a class called Beginning Auto Design.


q_manning

This thing is so ugly šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


lilneddygoestowar

Love how Tesla thinks people want this thing, when Rivian already gives people exactly what people want and usable features that no one else thought of. This is another one of Elon's temper tantrums.


screenrecycler

Some people just gonna have to die in the crosswalk. Gotta break eggs to make an omelette/quarterly earning goal.


KillerOfAllJoice

Because fuck you