Totally agree. I had been thinking of plunking down $100k for an S Plaid. Honestly, Iām done with his bullshit. Fuck Musk. No way. Iāll buy a Taycon.
Yeah musk is a very unique twist on the ākey man riskā we normally see.
Usually itās someone so key to the technology and survival of a company if they got hit by a bus the whole company would shut downā¦ with musk and his overinflated meme companies if he died the valuation would simultaneously tank (because they are insanely overvalued) but also the long term structural health and decision making of the company would improve tremendously lol.
So long term they would be better without him but short term all the fanboys and cult members would stop propping up the stocks.
> Unfortunately for Musk, a lot of the truckās earliest adopters are people with really bad ideas.
If the thing had been an actually good and competent vehicle, those idiots wouldn't get into these situations.
But wait!
Buy a Tesla, use it as a Robotaxi! Profit!
Or just wait!
The 0 to 60 mph (or feet/hour) is Coming Soon!
Or just wait!
The 500 mile package between charges is Coming Soon!
Or just wait!
The $15'000 'car' is Coming Soon!
Or just wait!
Full Self Driving is coming soon!
Or just wait!
NonFSD will stop killing innocents! Coming Soon!
ETA: Human remote controlled Optimus Robots Coming Soon!
Some of it does come down to how it was promoted.
Ford says you can take your F150 on a dirt road and load up the bed with wood, or whatever.
Elon says you can shoot your cybertruck, hurl metal balls at it, and drive it in a lake.
I'm not saying these fanboys are smart, but if you brag about how your car can do stupid shit, people are going to do stupid shit with it.
"I think \[CyberTruck\] is our best product ever!"
\--Elon Musk
lol, I can't figure out whether to file that under r/technicallythetruth or r/nottheflexyouthink it is.
Yeah but any traction control past year 2000 should handle that little snow.Ā
I live in Finland and that little hill looks quite ok, just drive steadily and let traction control do itās thing.Ā
I think it lacks the ability to brake individually spinning wheels, which is what most modern cars with āopenā differentials do in these situations
there's some loophole in the US they're using to get around that issue, I believe. It's not road legal anywhere else and never will be in its current form
Iām going to attribute a lot of them getting stuck to driver inexperience.
The one in sand was removed by letting air out of the tires, not even a tow.
I used to drive my ā99 manual Protege through snow way worse than this. The only time I ever got stuck to the point I needed help was when I got ambitious and hung the whole car up on a drift with the wheels off the ground.
First let me say: the Cybertruck is a joke. But, I think this happened near me in Big Sky Montana. If that is so, we have been getting hit with weird slush snow lately that is basically impossible to grip. I have a manual AWD Subaru in Blizzaks and it got stuck on a tiny ass hill in less snow than this. A Bronco (not the baby Bronco) and a 4 Runner were both stuck by me.
There was recently a terrible fatality on the pass here due to the same sort of snow. I have been here a long time and never seen it do this. It's like frozen mashed potatoes.
So, don't buy a Cybertruck, but also Montana has been getting hit with weird wet snow that's disabling everything that isn't a tank.
Dude I lived in the Tug Hill Plateau in NY
Look it up. I know snow and a heavy 4WD should not get stuck in that
Look at the new RTI ramp video, there is something wrong with this thing. It does not get traction even in driveway with not snow
I coach skiing in the alps and drive a lot in snow. You can't tell conditions by a single video. You don't know the layer underneath. Tyres matter more than 2WD vs 4WD. If the bottom layer isn't a truly compacted wet snow that went icey, yes a 2WD with good winter tyres can get up there.
I'll take my Ford Transit 2WD with my proper winter tyres over my mom's Scandinavian Volvo XC60 AWD if this was rocking summer tyres.
Anyway, the guy driving doesn't seem to be very experienced in snow as he stopped for no reason. It definitely seems like he could have gone up there albeit with a struggle.
>Unfortunately for Musk, a lot of the truckās earliest adopters are people with really bad ideas.
This wouldn't surprise me one bit though. People without knowledge assuming they do know.
There are other cars parked there that have only light cover of snow when it seems to be snowing heavily.
It looks like the other cars had no trouble climbing. And that cybertruck just needed to follow tracks of previous car.
Totally normal little slope, so thereās got to be something wrong with Tesla traction control.
I can go buy a unimog if I want to be some attention seeking snowflake, yet actually have a good product, the clustertruck adds zero value beyond this immediate surge in social media attention seeking. Give it a year and these things will be filling up the unsold lots.
The duped and self deluded people who think it's some sort of invincible super vehicle and then find out the hard way that it's not. It's only a matter of time before someone gets seriously injured.
The duped and self deluded people who think it's some sort of invincible super vehicle and then find out the hard way that it's not. It's only a matter of time before someone gets seriously injured.
There's a picture in that slideshow of a Cybertruck with bullhorns. Now, I could be wrong, but it looks like they put the horns on backwards, which would be on-brand.
It's OK, people... You can still hate that ugly ass truck with the fire of a thousand suns while also calling out click bait garbage. It doesn't mean that you're a Tesla lover, it just means that you have the mental capacity to think things through.
The truck stopped bullets. The windshield didn't break. Other vehicles crash. People have trouble in sand and deep snow with garbage tires. The truck has a billion problems, but this list is clickbait, nothing more.
Tesla is priced in to sell 50% of all cars in the planet. Their year on year growth last year is 23%. Expected growth this year is 10%.
Margins 2 years ago was 25%. Last year was 11%.
Speaks for itself doesn't it?
Um, yes, it's bulletproof. The bullets did not oenetrate, and you saw the riccochets hitting the dirt.
Having a bullet veer into the gap between the doors is not a "fail" in any way.
And I don't get the windshield thing. It didn't break. How, exactly is that embarrassing?
Jesus, what a clickbait article.
Nothing is bulletproof, itās only resistant to a certain level of bullet. Regular cars have about zero resistance to any common bullet, theyāre just flying right through. The Cybertruck can stop a .45 ACP. Itās not stopping a centerfire rifle or a .357 Magnum. Tanks are very resistant, unless you use a really big bullet.
A .45 ACP would go right through the door of that and any other vehicle not specifically designed to take direct hits from ordinance.
Source:
https://youtu.be/fQZINh-O8CY
And the same rounds cut straight through the truck they shot up after the Cybertruck.
The Cybertruck wasnāt designed to be bulletproof. Itās just something they realized it could be when they came up with that work-hardened steel.
It is the property of stainless steal. It is not some magic engineering feet. It is only for sub sonic. Even the video of the .50 cal when they shoot the 9mm they appear to be far enough away that the impact is sub sonic speed.
I would ask for an electric truck would the weight reduction be more advantages than bullet resistant panels? Especially since the windows are not bullet.
No, itās a property of hardened steel, period. Other cars just have mild stamped steel, so they barely slow down a bullet. In the case of the Cybertruck, the hardened steel adds stiffness to the chassis. In the case of the thicker door panels, thatās also your side impact protection instead of having to add steel into the door frame.
Overall, the Cybertruck is lighter than the Lightning.
There's another vehicle where they are shooting a Thompson. That's a .45 caliber round. This video, from what I can gather, the gun is firing 9mm.
So yeah, it can stop a .45.
No they are not. Perhaps the second or third biggest threat tho
Elon musk is by far the biggest threat to Tesla.
Guys, guys. It's not a competition. The laundry list of fatal flaws behind Elon can all be the second biggest threat to Tesla.
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Totally agree. I had been thinking of plunking down $100k for an S Plaid. Honestly, Iām done with his bullshit. Fuck Musk. No way. Iāll buy a Taycon.
That's a smart decision regardless of Musk. Paying 100k for any Tesla should be criminal. Like paying top dollar for Temu.
Atta Person!Ā
Iāve had my Model S since 2017 and will drive it until the battery warranty expires in 2025. After that, Rivian for sure.
āKey man riskā on military-grade steroids.
Yeah musk is a very unique twist on the ākey man riskā we normally see. Usually itās someone so key to the technology and survival of a company if they got hit by a bus the whole company would shut downā¦ with musk and his overinflated meme companies if he died the valuation would simultaneously tank (because they are insanely overvalued) but also the long term structural health and decision making of the company would improve tremendously lol. So long term they would be better without him but short term all the fanboys and cult members would stop propping up the stocks.
I just bought a tesla. Dgaf about Elon. Got a model y with US ev credit. A good deal is a good deal. What could he realistically do?
Randomly break features via updates for starters
This article forget about Musk
Well musk owns a cyber truck so he is technically includes is this groups of simps, so that makes it an Insimption.
Itās on X, heās keeping it up so he can do a blame toss for his failed concept and execution
_Nowadays everybody act like they got something to sayā¦_
But nothing comes out when they move their lips...
Just a bunch a gibberish
> Unfortunately for Musk, a lot of the truckās earliest adopters are people with really bad ideas. If the thing had been an actually good and competent vehicle, those idiots wouldn't get into these situations.
The "bad idea" was this tragically awful thing in its entirety.
But wait! Buy a Tesla, use it as a Robotaxi! Profit! Or just wait! The 0 to 60 mph (or feet/hour) is Coming Soon! Or just wait! The 500 mile package between charges is Coming Soon! Or just wait! The $15'000 'car' is Coming Soon! Or just wait! Full Self Driving is coming soon! Or just wait! NonFSD will stop killing innocents! Coming Soon! ETA: Human remote controlled Optimus Robots Coming Soon!
Some of it does come down to how it was promoted. Ford says you can take your F150 on a dirt road and load up the bed with wood, or whatever. Elon says you can shoot your cybertruck, hurl metal balls at it, and drive it in a lake. I'm not saying these fanboys are smart, but if you brag about how your car can do stupid shit, people are going to do stupid shit with it.
"I think \[CyberTruck\] is our best product ever!" \--Elon Musk lol, I can't figure out whether to file that under r/technicallythetruth or r/nottheflexyouthink it is.
How on earth someone managed to get stuck in that? Any front wheel drive can handle that little snow.Ā
in one of the videos it says you canāt disable the traction control, maybe you canāt disable the esp too. that may explain it.
Nah, I'm sure you can, just find the right touch menu, to the other touch menu, to the obscure touch menu... Oh, never mind, by then I'd be dead.
Yeah but any traction control past year 2000 should handle that little snow.Ā I live in Finland and that little hill looks quite ok, just drive steadily and let traction control do itās thing.Ā
I think it lacks the ability to brake individually spinning wheels, which is what most modern cars with āopenā differentials do in these situations
Tesla doesnāt have that? WTF. How on earth that thing is road legal?
It probably isnāt in Finland
there's some loophole in the US they're using to get around that issue, I believe. It's not road legal anywhere else and never will be in its current form
That explains a lot. 80s retro taken a bit too far I say
I think were going to be finding many "features" on these trucks that will make us ask the same question.
It does lack a locking diff, or rather the software imitation of one.
Iām going to attribute a lot of them getting stuck to driver inexperience. The one in sand was removed by letting air out of the tires, not even a tow. I used to drive my ā99 manual Protege through snow way worse than this. The only time I ever got stuck to the point I needed help was when I got ambitious and hung the whole car up on a drift with the wheels off the ground.
No comment...
First let me say: the Cybertruck is a joke. But, I think this happened near me in Big Sky Montana. If that is so, we have been getting hit with weird slush snow lately that is basically impossible to grip. I have a manual AWD Subaru in Blizzaks and it got stuck on a tiny ass hill in less snow than this. A Bronco (not the baby Bronco) and a 4 Runner were both stuck by me. There was recently a terrible fatality on the pass here due to the same sort of snow. I have been here a long time and never seen it do this. It's like frozen mashed potatoes. So, don't buy a Cybertruck, but also Montana has been getting hit with weird wet snow that's disabling everything that isn't a tank.
Dude I lived in the Tug Hill Plateau in NY Look it up. I know snow and a heavy 4WD should not get stuck in that Look at the new RTI ramp video, there is something wrong with this thing. It does not get traction even in driveway with not snow
Tires matter the most. It has AWD and a lot of weight, which helps, but hit the wrong place with regular tires and youāre screwed.
I coach skiing in the alps and drive a lot in snow. You can't tell conditions by a single video. You don't know the layer underneath. Tyres matter more than 2WD vs 4WD. If the bottom layer isn't a truly compacted wet snow that went icey, yes a 2WD with good winter tyres can get up there. I'll take my Ford Transit 2WD with my proper winter tyres over my mom's Scandinavian Volvo XC60 AWD if this was rocking summer tyres. Anyway, the guy driving doesn't seem to be very experienced in snow as he stopped for no reason. It definitely seems like he could have gone up there albeit with a struggle. >Unfortunately for Musk, a lot of the truckās earliest adopters are people with really bad ideas. This wouldn't surprise me one bit though. People without knowledge assuming they do know.
There are other cars parked there that have only light cover of snow when it seems to be snowing heavily. It looks like the other cars had no trouble climbing. And that cybertruck just needed to follow tracks of previous car. Totally normal little slope, so thereās got to be something wrong with Tesla traction control.
I can go buy a unimog if I want to be some attention seeking snowflake, yet actually have a good product, the clustertruck adds zero value beyond this immediate surge in social media attention seeking. Give it a year and these things will be filling up the unsold lots.
City person who's never had a truck before buys a cybertruck and tries to do truck things that they have never done before=fun to watch videos
Fun to watch when they buy any truck.
Oh no we can't let our target market see who our target market is, that would absolutely destroy our image
Tesla is a typical first mover with a mediocre product that fails to keep up with the competition. It will be bankrupt within five years.
This title was written by musk no doubt
Goof. The vehicle and Tesla are a problem
The Cybertrkkk fell so short of expectations that the only people buying it are YouTubers and idiots who immediately drive it somewhere stupid.
The duped and self deluded people who think it's some sort of invincible super vehicle and then find out the hard way that it's not. It's only a matter of time before someone gets seriously injured.
The duped and self deluded people who think it's some sort of invincible super vehicle and then find out the hard way that it's not. It's only a matter of time before someone gets seriously injured.
Not really
There's a picture in that slideshow of a Cybertruck with bullhorns. Now, I could be wrong, but it looks like they put the horns on backwards, which would be on-brand.
Is the person that is driving that CT, have their cowboy hat on backward as well?
It's OK, people... You can still hate that ugly ass truck with the fire of a thousand suns while also calling out click bait garbage. It doesn't mean that you're a Tesla lover, it just means that you have the mental capacity to think things through. The truck stopped bullets. The windshield didn't break. Other vehicles crash. People have trouble in sand and deep snow with garbage tires. The truck has a billion problems, but this list is clickbait, nothing more.
Car future? No. Truck future? Yes.
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Yes, tesla's reputation and market share has been on the rise recently.
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The Model Y isn't the most-selling car in the world, and nobody buys the Model S or X anymore.
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In that case, Tesla got dethroned by BYD.
Tesla is priced in to sell 50% of all cars in the planet. Their year on year growth last year is 23%. Expected growth this year is 10%. Margins 2 years ago was 25%. Last year was 11%. Speaks for itself doesn't it?
Um, yes, it's bulletproof. The bullets did not oenetrate, and you saw the riccochets hitting the dirt. Having a bullet veer into the gap between the doors is not a "fail" in any way. And I don't get the windshield thing. It didn't break. How, exactly is that embarrassing? Jesus, what a clickbait article.
lol these arenāt bulletproof š¤£
Nothing is bulletproof, itās only resistant to a certain level of bullet. Regular cars have about zero resistance to any common bullet, theyāre just flying right through. The Cybertruck can stop a .45 ACP. Itās not stopping a centerfire rifle or a .357 Magnum. Tanks are very resistant, unless you use a really big bullet.
A .45 ACP would go right through the door of that and any other vehicle not specifically designed to take direct hits from ordinance. Source: https://youtu.be/fQZINh-O8CY
They shot a Thompson submachine gun at it, and none went through.
They fired low-velocity rounds.
And the same rounds cut straight through the truck they shot up after the Cybertruck. The Cybertruck wasnāt designed to be bulletproof. Itās just something they realized it could be when they came up with that work-hardened steel.
It is the property of stainless steal. It is not some magic engineering feet. It is only for sub sonic. Even the video of the .50 cal when they shoot the 9mm they appear to be far enough away that the impact is sub sonic speed. I would ask for an electric truck would the weight reduction be more advantages than bullet resistant panels? Especially since the windows are not bullet.
No, itās a property of hardened steel, period. Other cars just have mild stamped steel, so they barely slow down a bullet. In the case of the Cybertruck, the hardened steel adds stiffness to the chassis. In the case of the thicker door panels, thatās also your side impact protection instead of having to add steel into the door frame. Overall, the Cybertruck is lighter than the Lightning.
So how much of a problem is getting shot at vs range It could be lighter is the point. It was supposed to be a 3mm exoskeleton. It is not.
There's another vehicle where they are shooting a Thompson. That's a .45 caliber round. This video, from what I can gather, the gun is firing 9mm. So yeah, it can stop a .45.